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evilduanedesignevening all00:15
nhandlero/00:15
Pendulumhi evilduanedesign00:15
nigelbhello nhandler and *gasp* evilduanedesign :p00:15
nigelbevilduanedesign: why are you up at this inhuman hour? :P00:16
evilduanedesignhaha00:17
evilduanedesignmy VPS keeps running out of RAM so i am using my alternate 'evil' IRCCloud setup00:18
evilduanedesignnigelb: yes it is odd for me to be up at 'normal' U.S. hours :)00:19
nigelbhehe00:19
nigelbevilduanedesign: I usually think you're in dholbach time in my head00:19
evilduanedesignthats just about right00:19
evilduanedesigni have a whole group of Beginners Team mentees who want to be MOTU. Unfortunately that is one thing we are short on at the moment (MOTU Mentors)00:21
evilduanedesignI need to find one or two MOTU's who might want to help mentor this group00:22
nigelbbdrung?00:23
nhandlerevilduanedesign: I have no issue reviewing/sponsoring patches, answering questions, and pointing people in the right direction, I just don't have the time to work with someone one-on-one and guide them through everything00:24
evilduanedesignnhandler: right. I might try something like the Bug Squad is doing. Where mentees ask questions on a mailing list and a couple mentors monitor the list and answer questions00:26
evilduanedesignnhandler: thank you nhandler. I am also going to talk to huats and coolbhavi. I'll let you know when i get things a little more sorted00:27
nhandlerevilduanedesign: The hardest part imo is finding good bugs to start with. When I did some mentoring in the past, I would go through and find a few good bugs (and set myself as willing to mentor the bug). That is also what persia did with me00:28
jcastrojono: basset hounds are so ugly00:44
jcastrothey're like beagles that god forgot to put skin glue on00:44
nigelblol00:45
jonojcastro, lol01:06
nigelbjcastro: do you have one?01:07
jcastrono01:07
jcastroI have a cat01:07
jcastrowhich is an entirely different form of evil01:08
Pendulumjcastro: cats are a wonderful type of evil01:08
nigelbjcastro: you mean a cat has you? ;)01:09
akgranerWe have a cat now...01:09
* Pendulum is so tempted to go out and get a cat01:09
nigelboh, akgraner!01:09
Pendulumbut I think my parents would not be pleased if they came home to a cat :(01:09
nigelbakgraner: How was tlf?01:09
akgranergood busy01:09
nigelbPendulum: get a dog01:10
nigelbextra points for gettign him stuck in a sweat shirt ;p01:10
akgranera lot of good feedback on my talk01:10
akgranerso that was good01:10
Pendulumnigelb: can't take care of a dog. and I actually am a cat person more than a dog person01:10
nigelbakgraner: do you have slides up somewhere?01:10
* nigelb disowns Pendulum :P01:10
Pendulum(not that they'd be any happier if they came home to a dog)01:10
akgranernigelb, not yet but I will before the week is out...01:11
akgranerI had to take today and tomorrow to get caught up with work - and I am taking Friday off...01:11
nigelb:)01:12
* AlanBell has alternative pet suggestion for Pendulum 06:18
pleia2a narwhal!06:20
nigelbheh06:22
nigelbhey pleia206:22
pleia2g'day nigelb06:22
nigelbI just drove around 60 km from 6 am to 10 am.  Sigh.06:23
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czajkowski./c07:21
dpmmorning all07:35
czajkowskialoha07:36
nigelbhello dpm07:36
dholbachgood morning08:23
dpmheya dholbach08:30
dpmmorning czajkowski, nigelb08:30
dholbachhey dpm08:30
dholbachduanedesign, did you get any feedback on doing development screencasts from the team?08:41
nigelbhey dholbach :)08:46
dholbachhi nigelb08:46
kim0Morning09:05
kim0dholbach: dpm nigelb hey :)09:06
dholbachhey kim009:06
dpmmorning kim009:06
dholbachpopey, Technoviking, pleia2: if you have a bit of time, can you help me with the wiki relicensing thing?09:12
popeydholbach: what do you need?09:22
dholbachpopey, a review of the announce I wrote and some help with the blurb about why the dual licensing is unnecessary09:24
popeyok09:25
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* vish hopes popey is safe and a long way from being affected by : http://goo.gl/NDITf :s09:34
* popey reaches out to his screen and drags vish to the rubbish bin09:36
vishpoor popey trying to swipe ;p09:36
duanedesignmorning all12:19
Pendulumhiya duanedesign12:20
duanedesignhello Pendulum12:21
duanedesigndholbach: a couple volunteers stepped up. I helped jledbetter get her tools all setup and recorded a test screencast12:23
dholbachNICE12:23
dholbachwere they on the mailing list?12:24
duanedesigndholbach: one was12:24
dholbachahh ok :)12:24
duanedesigndholbach: the other pinged me in #ubuntu-screencasts12:24
dholbachgreat12:25
dholbachis there anything I can help with?12:25
nigelbhey Pendulum12:25
dholbachI'm happy to help writing "the plot" or at least review it12:25
duanedesignyaa, i found a script to search Launchpad by programming language13:58
* dpm goes for lunch14:24
vishdo we have a page, which has: "why contributing to Ubuntu is awesome?"14:50
popeygood question!14:51
dholbachif http://www.ubuntu.com/community isn't that page, it should be :)14:53
vishthat page lists the ways to get involved, how to get involved but not *why* and how we save all the ponies :D14:57
vishbasically there is this person who landed on -devel and -+1 and seemed like trying to get involved but asks "Do you get paid?" "if i join whats the point?"14:57
vishi told to look for Canonical jobs, but he is not interested in giving personal info to Canonical ;p15:00
vishhmm! there was this section in the team pages why each team is awesome, something c-johnston made people to fill in..  /me goes looking15:02
jonodpm, ready in a min or so?16:00
Technovikingdholbach: will do16:00
dpmjono, all set!16:01
dholbachthanks Technoviking - popey put it up on the pad16:02
doctormopleia2, popey: Have either of you ever done nfs mounts for /home ?16:08
doctormoI can' seem to get user mapping to work, or at least I can't see it working. It's kind of hard to debug.16:10
jussioh fun :( I got a bug in nspluginwrapper, then when I tried to report it, the bug reporter crashed. lol16:11
popeydoctormo: i haven't myself, but the boxen I use (but dont admin) at $work have nfs mounted /home/$user16:16
doctormopopey: Ah, so you wouldn't know why I see numbers instead of usernames for owners of user home folders?16:17
popeyi might16:17
popeyusername longer than 10 chars?16:17
popeyor is it 816:17
doctormopopey: 'administrator' so yes16:22
popeyi have seen that16:23
dpmjono, can't hear you anymore16:30
doctormopopey: Ah found the issue, both nfs-common configs need to be exactly the same.16:30
jcastrohttps://twitter.com/#!/1990sLinuxUser16:35
jcastrobrilliant16:35
jcastropopey: ^16:35
popeyheheh16:36
jcastroMeanEYE: were you the one taking over lernid?16:36
dholbachalright my friends16:41
dholbachI call it a day16:41
dholbachsee you all tomorrow16:41
* dholbach hugs you all16:42
popeyo/16:44
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popeynhandler: ping!18:12
popeycould you please fix the EMEA membership board meeting entry on the fridge calendar?18:12
popeyand the cc one18:12
popeythey're both wrong by 1 hour18:12
popeyEMEA says 8pm-9pm for me, but it's 9pm-10pm (20:00 UTC to 21:00 UTC)18:13
popeyCC says 9pm-11pm for me but it's 10pm - 11pm (21:00 UTC to 22:00 UTC)18:13
popeyor indeed anyone who can edit the fridge calendar?18:14
akgranerI can18:15
popeythank you!18:15
akgranerdo you still need it taken care of18:15
popeyyes18:15
akgraneron it18:15
popeyor change owner to me and I'll fix them as I'm on both boards :)18:15
akgranerlooking now :-)18:16
akgranerpopey, should be fixed now...18:19
popeywin18:19
popeythanks18:19
akgranersorry about that..wonder how long it's been wrong...:-/18:22
pleia2popey: are you good to chair the CC meeting later? I will be around but work has me overwhelmed this week18:22
popeyakgraner: a week. dst was last week18:23
popeypleia2: sure18:23
pleia2cool18:23
popeypleia2: thanks for sorting out the RMB members!18:25
pleia2popey: sure! we still have APAC outstanding, but one thing at a time :)18:25
popeyheh, indeed18:25
* popey pokes APAC with a stick18:25
Pendulumpopey: it might take a big stick. none of the board members showed up for their meeting this morning :-/18:27
popey:(18:27
Pendulumyeah18:27
Pendulumthere were 2 applicants going 'where are they?' :(18:27
pleia2I think elky is usually the one rounding people up, and she's in the middle of a major move18:28
Pendulumyeah18:28
PendulumI tried pinging the ones idling in -meeting, but no response. I pointed out to the 2 applicants that if they didn't want to wait they could also add their names to EMEA or Americas board meetings18:29
pleia2thanks for that :)18:30
pleia2Pendulum: oh! you're all officialized now: http://ubuntu-news.org/2011/04/05/new-emea-and-americas-membership-board-members/18:30
Pendulumpleia2: I saw! Thank you!18:31
Pendulumpleia2: and no problem. I figured someone ought to direct them to other options since there wasn't even a board member around going 'sorry, we can't make quorum'18:33
* pleia2 nods18:33
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akgraneranyone having issues with labels from the Unity Launcher not going away?20:12
* mhall119 hasn't upgraded yet20:15
mhall119I think I remember having that on my netbook a couple times though20:16
akgranerI have this one label that won't go away and is showing up on every desktop and app...weird20:16
mhall119pull the launcher back up and hover over the icon that made the label, maybe it'll remove the old one first20:16
akgranerand I don't even have the app open any more...:-/20:16
JanCakgraner: I've seen that happen too, with some launchers20:20
JanCmhall119: doesn't work20:20
JanCI've seen is it happen twice, but not during the last 48h or so20:21
JanCwhich might be luck of course  ;)20:21
akgranerJanC, interesting... mhall119 I even reopened the app and tried to hover over it...and I still have "Startup Disk Creator" Label there...I'm sure it will go away in time :-)20:25
JanCakgraner: it goes away when you restart unity/compiz (e.g. when you log out & back in, when you reboot, or, most likely here, when it crashes...)20:27
akgranerJanC, I'll restart in just a few then :-)  thanks!20:35
JanCunity restarts automatically now and then here  ;)20:35
akgranerDOH! that's not fun..20:36
JanCbut somehow I think that's not a feature to remove stuck launcher label   :P20:36
akgranerreset Unity and dbus died in the middle of the reset  - ended up restarting anyway...but now the label is gone...21:10
jcastroakgraner: oh crap21:25
jcastroopenweek21:25
jcastrowanna chat about it tomorrow?21:25
czajkowskiI feel honoured jeff spaleta left a comment on my blog21:55
czajkowskihmm21:55
pleia2popey: I'm on my lunch break now, unfortunately I can only stay for a half hour (my schedule is usually more flexible but this week is brutal)22:01
popeyno pleia2 :D22:01
popeyczajkowski: you mean jono?22:01
czajkowskihttp://www.lczajkowski.com/2011/04/04/why-being-an-approved-loco-team-doesnt-actually-matter-a-jot/#comment-1284722:02
JFopopey, :-P22:04
paultagczajkowski: popey: I'm so about to be bummed if head_victim is passed up this round22:05
paultagI got out of bed to cheer :)22:05
popeyhe added himself in the last few minutes22:05
popeywe tell people not to add themselves during the meeting22:05
Pendulumhe was there before the meeting when I looked22:05
Pendulum(he's another person who was there for A/O when they didn't show this morning)22:06
popeyi meant the last few mins before the meeting :)22:06
head_victimpopey: yeah sorry wasn't sure I was able to make it in time, I was scheduled for oceania last night but didn't happen. I understand if it's bumped though22:06
Pendulumfair enough :)22:06
popeylets see what the others say22:06
* paultag hugs popey 22:06
pleia2I turn into a pumpkin in 24 minutes, so it would be nice if we could start the CC meeting soon :)22:06
JFopics or it didn't happen pleia2 :-P22:07
pleia2hehe22:07
JFo:-D22:07
popeyheh22:08
paultagpopey: thanks popey, owe you a beer :)22:10
JFonaughty APAC board22:11
Pendulumpaultag: how're you?22:11
paultagPendulum: well, thanks! How are you?22:11
Pendulumit rained today which is exciting because it wasn't snow!22:11
paultagPendulum: right!22:11
paultagsame here, it was pretty cool22:12
paultagI've not seen rain in a few months22:12
Pendulumand we have a mailbox up after almost 3 months without! (drunk driver + snowstorm = no mailbox)22:12
czajkowskithats 2 people that turned up this evening due to lack of A/O board22:13
JFoyup22:13
* JFo is shamed on their behalf22:13
czajkowskiit's really not fair :(22:14
PendulumJFo: I already did that this morning when I apologized to them for A/O not showing up and suggested they add themselves to other meetings unless they wanted to wait until next month22:14
JFoyeah, still sucks that no one at all from the board showed up22:14
JFohmmmm22:14
JFoactually I am reminded that today is QingMing Festival22:15
JFowonder if that had anything to do with some of it22:15
JFobut that would be Taiwan only22:15
Pendulumwell the person who is generally the best about rounding people up is in Australia, but she's currently in the middle of a big move so I suspect that's where part of it was22:15
JFocongrats head_victim22:16
JFo:-)22:16
Pendulumbut it really shouldn't be one person having to remind the others22:16
JForight22:16
head_victimThanks everyone22:16
paultagway to go head_victim :)22:16
JFowell, maybe this will be the catalyst for them to pay closer attention :)22:16
head_victimPendulum: yeah she's usually the only regular to turn up22:16
PendulumJFo: it's not the first time :-/22:16
JFothat is just sad22:17
Pendulumyeah :(22:17
czajkowskievery single month! :s22:18
head_victimI feel bad becasue then everyone has a go at them even though they were the only one turning up regularly22:18
Pendulumpaultag: are we rooting for the same team tonight?22:33
paultagPendulum: totally!!!!!! Go sox!!22:33
Pendulum:D22:34
paultagPendulum: I'm going to the game tom. afternoon22:34
Pendulumpaultag: you told me. I am jealous.22:34
paultagPendulum: I'm going decked out with all my sox gear22:34
Pendulum:D22:34
paultagI'm so stoked :)22:34
Pendulumyeah, I never got the guts to do that when I was in NYC22:34
Pendulummostly because I didn't want to get jumped22:34
paultagaye!22:34
paultagjust like yankees fans in Boston, god save their souls22:35
PendulumI've heard fewer truly horrible stories in Boston than I have in NYC22:35
paultagtruth22:35
Pendulumor the poor Giants fan in LA22:35
paultaghahaha22:37
paultagpopey: the lintco code has a lot of undocumented code for working with launchpad bugs -- it'd be pretty simple to fork lintco into something that will let a person file their bug all by themselves22:39
Pendulumpaultag: did you not hear about that? the poor guy is possibly still fighting for his life in the hospital22:39
paultagfor EMEA, that is22:39
paultagPendulum: no! What?22:39
Pendulumpaultag: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/04/giants-fan-beaten-dodger-stadium-reward.html22:40
Pendulum(that's just the most recent news, it happened several days ago)22:40
paultagPendulum: oh shucks! That's not good at all, shoot!22:40
Pendulumyeah :(22:41
paultagthere's like a 125,000 USD reward22:41
paultagwow22:41
paultagwait, more, 4022:41
Pendulumyeah22:41
Pendulum$40k is still a lot22:42
paultagPendulum: $140K22:42
paultagOh wait, I keep reading it wrong22:42
paultagit's 100K flat22:42
Pendulumyeah22:42
paultagmy brain is fried22:42
* Pendulum hugs paultag 22:42
paultagaww, thanks Pendulum22:43
* paultag hugs Pendulum 22:43
paultagBRB, shower and a bit of dinner. Love ya'll muchly.22:45
akgranerUSB creator is becoming my new bff app today...I think I am on my 4th install of one type or another23:40

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