[00:15] <evilduanedesign> evening all
[00:15] <nhandler> o/
[00:15] <Pendulum> hi evilduanedesign
[00:15] <nigelb> hello nhandler and *gasp* evilduanedesign :p
[00:16] <nigelb> evilduanedesign: why are you up at this inhuman hour? :P
[00:17] <evilduanedesign> haha
[00:18] <evilduanedesign> my VPS keeps running out of RAM so i am using my alternate 'evil' IRCCloud setup
[00:19] <evilduanedesign> nigelb: yes it is odd for me to be up at 'normal' U.S. hours :)
[00:19] <nigelb> hehe
[00:19] <nigelb> evilduanedesign: I usually think you're in dholbach time in my head
[00:19] <evilduanedesign> thats just about right
[00:21] <evilduanedesign> i have a whole group of Beginners Team mentees who want to be MOTU. Unfortunately that is one thing we are short on at the moment (MOTU Mentors)
[00:22] <evilduanedesign> I need to find one or two MOTU's who might want to help mentor this group
[00:23] <nigelb> bdrung?
[00:24] <nhandler> evilduanedesign: I have no issue reviewing/sponsoring patches, answering questions, and pointing people in the right direction, I just don't have the time to work with someone one-on-one and guide them through everything
[00:26] <evilduanedesign> nhandler: right. I might try something like the Bug Squad is doing. Where mentees ask questions on a mailing list and a couple mentors monitor the list and answer questions
[00:27] <evilduanedesign> nhandler: thank you nhandler. I am also going to talk to huats and coolbhavi. I'll let you know when i get things a little more sorted
[00:28] <nhandler> evilduanedesign: The hardest part imo is finding good bugs to start with. When I did some mentoring in the past, I would go through and find a few good bugs (and set myself as willing to mentor the bug). That is also what persia did with me
[00:44] <jcastro> jono: basset hounds are so ugly
[00:44] <jcastro> they're like beagles that god forgot to put skin glue on
[00:45] <nigelb> lol
[01:06] <jono> jcastro, lol
[01:07] <nigelb> jcastro: do you have one?
[01:07] <jcastro> no
[01:07] <jcastro> I have a cat
[01:08] <jcastro> which is an entirely different form of evil
[01:08] <Pendulum> jcastro: cats are a wonderful type of evil
[01:09] <nigelb> jcastro: you mean a cat has you? ;)
[01:09] <akgraner> We have a cat now...
[01:09]  * Pendulum is so tempted to go out and get a cat
[01:09] <nigelb> oh, akgraner!
[01:09] <Pendulum> but I think my parents would not be pleased if they came home to a cat :(
[01:09] <nigelb> akgraner: How was tlf?
[01:09] <akgraner> good busy
[01:10] <nigelb> Pendulum: get a dog
[01:10] <nigelb> extra points for gettign him stuck in a sweat shirt ;p
[01:10] <akgraner> a lot of good feedback on my talk
[01:10] <akgraner> so that was good
[01:10] <Pendulum> nigelb: can't take care of a dog. and I actually am a cat person more than a dog person
[01:10] <nigelb> akgraner: do you have slides up somewhere?
[01:10]  * nigelb disowns Pendulum :P
[01:10] <Pendulum> (not that they'd be any happier if they came home to a dog)
[01:11] <akgraner> nigelb, not yet but I will before the week is out...
[01:11] <akgraner> I had to take today and tomorrow to get caught up with work - and I am taking Friday off...
[01:12] <nigelb> :)
[06:18]  * AlanBell has alternative pet suggestion for Pendulum 
[06:20] <pleia2> a narwhal!
[06:22] <nigelb> heh
[06:22] <nigelb> hey pleia2
[06:22] <pleia2> g'day nigelb
[06:23] <nigelb> I just drove around 60 km from 6 am to 10 am.  Sigh.
[07:21] <czajkowski> ./c
[07:35] <dpm> morning all
[07:36] <czajkowski> aloha
[07:36] <nigelb> hello dpm
[08:23] <dholbach> good morning
[08:30] <dpm> heya dholbach
[08:30] <dpm> morning czajkowski, nigelb
[08:30] <dholbach> hey dpm
[08:41] <dholbach> duanedesign, did you get any feedback on doing development screencasts from the team?
[08:46] <nigelb> hey dholbach :)
[08:46] <dholbach> hi nigelb
[09:05] <kim0> Morning
[09:06] <kim0> dholbach: dpm nigelb hey :)
[09:06] <dholbach> hey kim0
[09:06] <dpm> morning kim0
[09:12] <dholbach> popey, Technoviking, pleia2: if you have a bit of time, can you help me with the wiki relicensing thing?
[09:22] <popey> dholbach: what do you need?
[09:24] <dholbach> popey, a review of the announce I wrote and some help with the blurb about why the dual licensing is unnecessary
[09:25] <popey> ok
[09:34]  * vish hopes popey is safe and a long way from being affected by : http://goo.gl/NDITf  :s
[09:36]  * popey reaches out to his screen and drags vish to the rubbish bin
[09:36] <vish> poor popey trying to swipe ;p
[12:19] <duanedesign> morning all
[12:20] <Pendulum> hiya duanedesign
[12:21] <duanedesign> hello Pendulum
[12:23] <duanedesign> dholbach: a couple volunteers stepped up. I helped jledbetter get her tools all setup and recorded a test screencast
[12:23] <dholbach> NICE
[12:24] <dholbach> were they on the mailing list?
[12:24] <duanedesign> dholbach: one was
[12:24] <dholbach> ahh ok :)
[12:24] <duanedesign> dholbach: the other pinged me in #ubuntu-screencasts
[12:25] <dholbach> great
[12:25] <dholbach> is there anything I can help with?
[12:25] <nigelb> hey Pendulum
[12:25] <dholbach> I'm happy to help writing "the plot" or at least review it
[13:58] <duanedesign> yaa, i found a script to search Launchpad by programming language
[14:24]  * dpm goes for lunch
[14:50] <vish> do we have a page, which has: "why contributing to Ubuntu is awesome?"
[14:51] <popey> good question!
[14:53] <dholbach> if http://www.ubuntu.com/community isn't that page, it should be :)
[14:57] <vish> that page lists the ways to get involved, how to get involved but not *why* and how we save all the ponies :D
[14:57] <vish> basically there is this person who landed on -devel and -+1 and seemed like trying to get involved but asks "Do you get paid?" "if i join whats the point?"
[15:00] <vish> i told to look for Canonical jobs, but he is not interested in giving personal info to Canonical ;p
[15:02] <vish> hmm! there was this section in the team pages why each team is awesome, something c-johnston made people to fill in..  /me goes looking
[16:00] <jono> dpm, ready in a min or so?
[16:00] <Technoviking> dholbach: will do
[16:01] <dpm> jono, all set!
[16:02] <dholbach> thanks Technoviking - popey put it up on the pad
[16:08] <doctormo> pleia2, popey: Have either of you ever done nfs mounts for /home ?
[16:10] <doctormo> I can' seem to get user mapping to work, or at least I can't see it working. It's kind of hard to debug.
[16:11] <jussi> oh fun :( I got a bug in nspluginwrapper, then when I tried to report it, the bug reporter crashed. lol
[16:16] <popey> doctormo: i haven't myself, but the boxen I use (but dont admin) at $work have nfs mounted /home/$user
[16:17] <doctormo> popey: Ah, so you wouldn't know why I see numbers instead of usernames for owners of user home folders?
[16:17] <popey> i might
[16:17] <popey> username longer than 10 chars?
[16:17] <popey> or is it 8
[16:22] <doctormo> popey: 'administrator' so yes
[16:23] <popey> i have seen that
[16:30] <dpm> jono, can't hear you anymore
[16:30] <doctormo> popey: Ah found the issue, both nfs-common configs need to be exactly the same.
[16:35] <jcastro> https://twitter.com/#!/1990sLinuxUser
[16:35] <jcastro> brilliant
[16:35] <jcastro> popey: ^
[16:36] <popey> heheh
[16:36] <jcastro> MeanEYE: were you the one taking over lernid?
[16:41] <dholbach> alright my friends
[16:41] <dholbach> I call it a day
[16:41] <dholbach> see you all tomorrow
[16:42]  * dholbach hugs you all
[16:44] <popey> o/
[18:12] <popey> nhandler: ping!
[18:12] <popey> could you please fix the EMEA membership board meeting entry on the fridge calendar?
[18:12] <popey> and the cc one
[18:12] <popey> they're both wrong by 1 hour
[18:13] <popey> EMEA says 8pm-9pm for me, but it's 9pm-10pm (20:00 UTC to 21:00 UTC)
[18:13] <popey> CC says 9pm-11pm for me but it's 10pm - 11pm (21:00 UTC to 22:00 UTC)
[18:14] <popey> or indeed anyone who can edit the fridge calendar?
[18:15] <akgraner> I can
[18:15] <popey> thank you!
[18:15] <akgraner> do you still need it taken care of
[18:15] <popey> yes
[18:15] <akgraner> on it
[18:15] <popey> or change owner to me and I'll fix them as I'm on both boards :)
[18:16] <akgraner> looking now :-)
[18:19] <akgraner> popey, should be fixed now...
[18:19] <popey> win
[18:19] <popey> thanks
[18:22] <akgraner> sorry about that..wonder how long it's been wrong...:-/
[18:22] <pleia2> popey: are you good to chair the CC meeting later? I will be around but work has me overwhelmed this week
[18:23] <popey> akgraner: a week. dst was last week
[18:23] <popey> pleia2: sure
[18:23] <pleia2> cool
[18:25] <popey> pleia2: thanks for sorting out the RMB members!
[18:25] <pleia2> popey: sure! we still have APAC outstanding, but one thing at a time :)
[18:25] <popey> heh, indeed
[18:25]  * popey pokes APAC with a stick
[18:27] <Pendulum> popey: it might take a big stick. none of the board members showed up for their meeting this morning :-/
[18:27] <popey> :(
[18:27] <Pendulum> yeah
[18:27] <Pendulum> there were 2 applicants going 'where are they?' :(
[18:28] <pleia2> I think elky is usually the one rounding people up, and she's in the middle of a major move
[18:28] <Pendulum> yeah
[18:29] <Pendulum> I tried pinging the ones idling in -meeting, but no response. I pointed out to the 2 applicants that if they didn't want to wait they could also add their names to EMEA or Americas board meetings
[18:30] <pleia2> thanks for that :)
[18:30] <pleia2> Pendulum: oh! you're all officialized now: http://ubuntu-news.org/2011/04/05/new-emea-and-americas-membership-board-members/
[18:31] <Pendulum> pleia2: I saw! Thank you!
[18:33] <Pendulum> pleia2: and no problem. I figured someone ought to direct them to other options since there wasn't even a board member around going 'sorry, we can't make quorum'
[18:33]  * pleia2 nods
[20:12] <akgraner> anyone having issues with labels from the Unity Launcher not going away?
[20:15]  * mhall119 hasn't upgraded yet
[20:16] <mhall119> I think I remember having that on my netbook a couple times though
[20:16] <akgraner> I have this one label that won't go away and is showing up on every desktop and app...weird
[20:16] <mhall119> pull the launcher back up and hover over the icon that made the label, maybe it'll remove the old one first
[20:16] <akgraner> and I don't even have the app open any more...:-/
[20:20] <JanC> akgraner: I've seen that happen too, with some launchers
[20:20] <JanC> mhall119: doesn't work
[20:21] <JanC> I've seen is it happen twice, but not during the last 48h or so
[20:21] <JanC> which might be luck of course  ;)
[20:25] <akgraner> JanC, interesting... mhall119 I even reopened the app and tried to hover over it...and I still have "Startup Disk Creator" Label there...I'm sure it will go away in time :-)
[20:27] <JanC> akgraner: it goes away when you restart unity/compiz (e.g. when you log out & back in, when you reboot, or, most likely here, when it crashes...)
[20:35] <akgraner> JanC, I'll restart in just a few then :-)  thanks!
[20:35] <JanC> unity restarts automatically now and then here  ;)
[20:36] <akgraner> DOH! that's not fun..
[20:36] <JanC> but somehow I think that's not a feature to remove stuck launcher label   :P
[21:10] <akgraner> reset Unity and dbus died in the middle of the reset  - ended up restarting anyway...but now the label is gone...
[21:25] <jcastro> akgraner: oh crap
[21:25] <jcastro> openweek
[21:25] <jcastro> wanna chat about it tomorrow?
[21:55] <czajkowski> I feel honoured jeff spaleta left a comment on my blog
[21:55] <czajkowski> hmm
[22:01] <pleia2> popey: I'm on my lunch break now, unfortunately I can only stay for a half hour (my schedule is usually more flexible but this week is brutal)
[22:01] <popey> no pleia2 :D
[22:01] <popey> czajkowski: you mean jono?
[22:02] <czajkowski> http://www.lczajkowski.com/2011/04/04/why-being-an-approved-loco-team-doesnt-actually-matter-a-jot/#comment-12847
[22:04] <JFo> popey, :-P
[22:05] <paultag> czajkowski: popey: I'm so about to be bummed if head_victim is passed up this round
[22:05] <paultag> I got out of bed to cheer :)
[22:05] <popey> he added himself in the last few minutes
[22:05] <popey> we tell people not to add themselves during the meeting
[22:05] <Pendulum> he was there before the meeting when I looked
[22:06] <Pendulum> (he's another person who was there for A/O when they didn't show this morning)
[22:06] <popey> i meant the last few mins before the meeting :)
[22:06] <head_victim> popey: yeah sorry wasn't sure I was able to make it in time, I was scheduled for oceania last night but didn't happen. I understand if it's bumped though
[22:06] <Pendulum> fair enough :)
[22:06] <popey> lets see what the others say
[22:06]  * paultag hugs popey 
[22:06] <pleia2> I turn into a pumpkin in 24 minutes, so it would be nice if we could start the CC meeting soon :)
[22:07] <JFo> pics or it didn't happen pleia2 :-P
[22:07] <pleia2> hehe
[22:07] <JFo> :-D
[22:08] <popey> heh
[22:10] <paultag> popey: thanks popey, owe you a beer :)
[22:11] <JFo> naughty APAC board
[22:11] <Pendulum> paultag: how're you?
[22:11] <paultag> Pendulum: well, thanks! How are you?
[22:11] <Pendulum> it rained today which is exciting because it wasn't snow!
[22:11] <paultag> Pendulum: right!
[22:12] <paultag> same here, it was pretty cool
[22:12] <paultag> I've not seen rain in a few months
[22:12] <Pendulum> and we have a mailbox up after almost 3 months without! (drunk driver + snowstorm = no mailbox)
[22:13] <czajkowski> thats 2 people that turned up this evening due to lack of A/O board
[22:13] <JFo> yup
[22:13]  * JFo is shamed on their behalf
[22:14] <czajkowski> it's really not fair :(
[22:14] <Pendulum> JFo: I already did that this morning when I apologized to them for A/O not showing up and suggested they add themselves to other meetings unless they wanted to wait until next month
[22:14] <JFo> yeah, still sucks that no one at all from the board showed up
[22:14] <JFo> hmmmm
[22:15] <JFo> actually I am reminded that today is QingMing Festival
[22:15] <JFo> wonder if that had anything to do with some of it
[22:15] <JFo> but that would be Taiwan only
[22:15] <Pendulum> well the person who is generally the best about rounding people up is in Australia, but she's currently in the middle of a big move so I suspect that's where part of it was
[22:16] <JFo> congrats head_victim
[22:16] <JFo> :-)
[22:16] <Pendulum> but it really shouldn't be one person having to remind the others
[22:16] <JFo> right
[22:16] <head_victim> Thanks everyone
[22:16] <paultag> way to go head_victim :)
[22:16] <JFo> well, maybe this will be the catalyst for them to pay closer attention :)
[22:16] <head_victim> Pendulum: yeah she's usually the only regular to turn up
[22:16] <Pendulum> JFo: it's not the first time :-/
[22:17] <JFo> that is just sad
[22:17] <Pendulum> yeah :(
[22:18] <czajkowski> every single month! :s
[22:18] <head_victim> I feel bad becasue then everyone has a go at them even though they were the only one turning up regularly
[22:33] <Pendulum> paultag: are we rooting for the same team tonight?
[22:33] <paultag> Pendulum: totally!!!!!! Go sox!!
[22:34] <Pendulum> :D
[22:34] <paultag> Pendulum: I'm going to the game tom. afternoon
[22:34] <Pendulum> paultag: you told me. I am jealous.
[22:34] <paultag> Pendulum: I'm going decked out with all my sox gear
[22:34] <Pendulum> :D
[22:34] <paultag> I'm so stoked :)
[22:34] <Pendulum> yeah, I never got the guts to do that when I was in NYC
[22:34] <Pendulum> mostly because I didn't want to get jumped
[22:34] <paultag> aye!
[22:35] <paultag> just like yankees fans in Boston, god save their souls
[22:35] <Pendulum> I've heard fewer truly horrible stories in Boston than I have in NYC
[22:35] <paultag> truth
[22:35] <Pendulum> or the poor Giants fan in LA
[22:37] <paultag> hahaha
[22:39] <paultag> popey: the lintco code has a lot of undocumented code for working with launchpad bugs -- it'd be pretty simple to fork lintco into something that will let a person file their bug all by themselves
[22:39] <Pendulum> paultag: did you not hear about that? the poor guy is possibly still fighting for his life in the hospital
[22:39] <paultag> for EMEA, that is
[22:39] <paultag> Pendulum: no! What?
[22:40] <Pendulum> paultag: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/04/giants-fan-beaten-dodger-stadium-reward.html
[22:40] <Pendulum> (that's just the most recent news, it happened several days ago)
[22:40] <paultag> Pendulum: oh shucks! That's not good at all, shoot!
[22:41] <Pendulum> yeah :(
[22:41] <paultag> there's like a 125,000 USD reward
[22:41] <paultag> wow
[22:41] <paultag> wait, more, 40
[22:41] <Pendulum> yeah
[22:42] <Pendulum> $40k is still a lot
[22:42] <paultag> Pendulum: $140K
[22:42] <paultag> Oh wait, I keep reading it wrong
[22:42] <paultag> it's 100K flat
[22:42] <Pendulum> yeah
[22:42] <paultag> my brain is fried
[22:42]  * Pendulum hugs paultag 
[22:43] <paultag> aww, thanks Pendulum
[22:43]  * paultag hugs Pendulum 
[22:45] <paultag> BRB, shower and a bit of dinner. Love ya'll muchly.
[23:40] <akgraner> USB creator is becoming my new bff app today...I think I am on my 4th install of one type or another