[00:15] evening all [00:15] o/ [00:15] hi evilduanedesign [00:15] hello nhandler and *gasp* evilduanedesign :p [00:16] evilduanedesign: why are you up at this inhuman hour? :P [00:17] haha [00:18] my VPS keeps running out of RAM so i am using my alternate 'evil' IRCCloud setup [00:19] nigelb: yes it is odd for me to be up at 'normal' U.S. hours :) [00:19] hehe [00:19] evilduanedesign: I usually think you're in dholbach time in my head [00:19] thats just about right [00:21] i have a whole group of Beginners Team mentees who want to be MOTU. Unfortunately that is one thing we are short on at the moment (MOTU Mentors) [00:22] I need to find one or two MOTU's who might want to help mentor this group [00:23] bdrung? [00:24] evilduanedesign: I have no issue reviewing/sponsoring patches, answering questions, and pointing people in the right direction, I just don't have the time to work with someone one-on-one and guide them through everything [00:26] nhandler: right. I might try something like the Bug Squad is doing. Where mentees ask questions on a mailing list and a couple mentors monitor the list and answer questions [00:27] nhandler: thank you nhandler. I am also going to talk to huats and coolbhavi. I'll let you know when i get things a little more sorted [00:28] evilduanedesign: The hardest part imo is finding good bugs to start with. When I did some mentoring in the past, I would go through and find a few good bugs (and set myself as willing to mentor the bug). That is also what persia did with me [00:44] jono: basset hounds are so ugly [00:44] they're like beagles that god forgot to put skin glue on [00:45] lol [01:06] jcastro, lol [01:07] jcastro: do you have one? [01:07] no [01:07] I have a cat [01:08] which is an entirely different form of evil [01:08] jcastro: cats are a wonderful type of evil [01:09] jcastro: you mean a cat has you? ;) [01:09] We have a cat now... [01:09] * Pendulum is so tempted to go out and get a cat [01:09] oh, akgraner! [01:09] but I think my parents would not be pleased if they came home to a cat :( [01:09] akgraner: How was tlf? [01:09] good busy [01:10] Pendulum: get a dog [01:10] extra points for gettign him stuck in a sweat shirt ;p [01:10] a lot of good feedback on my talk [01:10] so that was good [01:10] nigelb: can't take care of a dog. and I actually am a cat person more than a dog person [01:10] akgraner: do you have slides up somewhere? [01:10] * nigelb disowns Pendulum :P [01:10] (not that they'd be any happier if they came home to a dog) [01:11] nigelb, not yet but I will before the week is out... [01:11] I had to take today and tomorrow to get caught up with work - and I am taking Friday off... [01:12] :) [06:18] * AlanBell has alternative pet suggestion for Pendulum [06:20] a narwhal! [06:22] heh [06:22] hey pleia2 [06:22] g'day nigelb [06:23] I just drove around 60 km from 6 am to 10 am. Sigh. === jcastro_ is now known as jcastro === czajkows1i is now known as czajkowski [07:21] ./c [07:35] morning all [07:36] aloha [07:36] hello dpm [08:23] good morning [08:30] heya dholbach [08:30] morning czajkowski, nigelb [08:30] hey dpm [08:41] duanedesign, did you get any feedback on doing development screencasts from the team? [08:46] hey dholbach :) [08:46] hi nigelb [09:05] Morning [09:06] dholbach: dpm nigelb hey :) [09:06] hey kim0 [09:06] morning kim0 [09:12] popey, Technoviking, pleia2: if you have a bit of time, can you help me with the wiki relicensing thing? [09:22] dholbach: what do you need? [09:24] popey, a review of the announce I wrote and some help with the blurb about why the dual licensing is unnecessary [09:25] ok === daker_ is now known as daker [09:34] * vish hopes popey is safe and a long way from being affected by : http://goo.gl/NDITf :s [09:36] * popey reaches out to his screen and drags vish to the rubbish bin [09:36] poor popey trying to swipe ;p [12:19] morning all [12:20] hiya duanedesign [12:21] hello Pendulum [12:23] dholbach: a couple volunteers stepped up. I helped jledbetter get her tools all setup and recorded a test screencast [12:23] NICE [12:24] were they on the mailing list? [12:24] dholbach: one was [12:24] ahh ok :) [12:24] dholbach: the other pinged me in #ubuntu-screencasts [12:25] great [12:25] is there anything I can help with? [12:25] hey Pendulum [12:25] I'm happy to help writing "the plot" or at least review it [13:58] yaa, i found a script to search Launchpad by programming language [14:24] * dpm goes for lunch [14:50] do we have a page, which has: "why contributing to Ubuntu is awesome?" [14:51] good question! [14:53] if http://www.ubuntu.com/community isn't that page, it should be :) [14:57] that page lists the ways to get involved, how to get involved but not *why* and how we save all the ponies :D [14:57] basically there is this person who landed on -devel and -+1 and seemed like trying to get involved but asks "Do you get paid?" "if i join whats the point?" [15:00] i told to look for Canonical jobs, but he is not interested in giving personal info to Canonical ;p [15:02] hmm! there was this section in the team pages why each team is awesome, something c-johnston made people to fill in.. /me goes looking [16:00] dpm, ready in a min or so? [16:00] dholbach: will do [16:01] jono, all set! [16:02] thanks Technoviking - popey put it up on the pad [16:08] pleia2, popey: Have either of you ever done nfs mounts for /home ? [16:10] I can' seem to get user mapping to work, or at least I can't see it working. It's kind of hard to debug. [16:11] oh fun :( I got a bug in nspluginwrapper, then when I tried to report it, the bug reporter crashed. lol [16:16] doctormo: i haven't myself, but the boxen I use (but dont admin) at $work have nfs mounted /home/$user [16:17] popey: Ah, so you wouldn't know why I see numbers instead of usernames for owners of user home folders? [16:17] i might [16:17] username longer than 10 chars? [16:17] or is it 8 [16:22] popey: 'administrator' so yes [16:23] i have seen that [16:30] jono, can't hear you anymore [16:30] popey: Ah found the issue, both nfs-common configs need to be exactly the same. [16:35] https://twitter.com/#!/1990sLinuxUser [16:35] brilliant [16:35] popey: ^ [16:36] heheh [16:36] MeanEYE: were you the one taking over lernid? [16:41] alright my friends [16:41] I call it a day [16:41] see you all tomorrow [16:42] * dholbach hugs you all [16:44] o/ === Tm_K is now known as Tm_T === Riddelll is now known as Riddell === tubadaz_ is now known as tubadaz === daker is now known as daker_ [18:12] nhandler: ping! [18:12] could you please fix the EMEA membership board meeting entry on the fridge calendar? [18:12] and the cc one [18:12] they're both wrong by 1 hour [18:13] EMEA says 8pm-9pm for me, but it's 9pm-10pm (20:00 UTC to 21:00 UTC) [18:13] CC says 9pm-11pm for me but it's 10pm - 11pm (21:00 UTC to 22:00 UTC) [18:14] or indeed anyone who can edit the fridge calendar? [18:15] I can [18:15] thank you! [18:15] do you still need it taken care of [18:15] yes [18:15] on it [18:15] or change owner to me and I'll fix them as I'm on both boards :) [18:16] looking now :-) [18:19] popey, should be fixed now... [18:19] win [18:19] thanks [18:22] sorry about that..wonder how long it's been wrong...:-/ [18:22] popey: are you good to chair the CC meeting later? I will be around but work has me overwhelmed this week [18:23] akgraner: a week. dst was last week [18:23] pleia2: sure [18:23] cool [18:25] pleia2: thanks for sorting out the RMB members! [18:25] popey: sure! we still have APAC outstanding, but one thing at a time :) [18:25] heh, indeed [18:25] * popey pokes APAC with a stick [18:27] popey: it might take a big stick. none of the board members showed up for their meeting this morning :-/ [18:27] :( [18:27] yeah [18:27] there were 2 applicants going 'where are they?' :( [18:28] I think elky is usually the one rounding people up, and she's in the middle of a major move [18:28] yeah [18:29] I tried pinging the ones idling in -meeting, but no response. I pointed out to the 2 applicants that if they didn't want to wait they could also add their names to EMEA or Americas board meetings [18:30] thanks for that :) [18:30] Pendulum: oh! you're all officialized now: http://ubuntu-news.org/2011/04/05/new-emea-and-americas-membership-board-members/ [18:31] pleia2: I saw! Thank you! [18:33] pleia2: and no problem. I figured someone ought to direct them to other options since there wasn't even a board member around going 'sorry, we can't make quorum' [18:33] * pleia2 nods === cypher is now known as czajkowski [20:12] anyone having issues with labels from the Unity Launcher not going away? [20:15] * mhall119 hasn't upgraded yet [20:16] I think I remember having that on my netbook a couple times though [20:16] I have this one label that won't go away and is showing up on every desktop and app...weird [20:16] pull the launcher back up and hover over the icon that made the label, maybe it'll remove the old one first [20:16] and I don't even have the app open any more...:-/ [20:20] akgraner: I've seen that happen too, with some launchers [20:20] mhall119: doesn't work [20:21] I've seen is it happen twice, but not during the last 48h or so [20:21] which might be luck of course ;) [20:25] JanC, interesting... mhall119 I even reopened the app and tried to hover over it...and I still have "Startup Disk Creator" Label there...I'm sure it will go away in time :-) [20:27] akgraner: it goes away when you restart unity/compiz (e.g. when you log out & back in, when you reboot, or, most likely here, when it crashes...) [20:35] JanC, I'll restart in just a few then :-) thanks! [20:35] unity restarts automatically now and then here ;) [20:36] DOH! that's not fun.. [20:36] but somehow I think that's not a feature to remove stuck launcher label :P [21:10] reset Unity and dbus died in the middle of the reset - ended up restarting anyway...but now the label is gone... [21:25] akgraner: oh crap [21:25] openweek [21:25] wanna chat about it tomorrow? [21:55] I feel honoured jeff spaleta left a comment on my blog [21:55] hmm [22:01] popey: I'm on my lunch break now, unfortunately I can only stay for a half hour (my schedule is usually more flexible but this week is brutal) [22:01] no pleia2 :D [22:01] czajkowski: you mean jono? [22:02] http://www.lczajkowski.com/2011/04/04/why-being-an-approved-loco-team-doesnt-actually-matter-a-jot/#comment-12847 [22:04] popey, :-P [22:05] czajkowski: popey: I'm so about to be bummed if head_victim is passed up this round [22:05] I got out of bed to cheer :) [22:05] he added himself in the last few minutes [22:05] we tell people not to add themselves during the meeting [22:05] he was there before the meeting when I looked [22:06] (he's another person who was there for A/O when they didn't show this morning) [22:06] i meant the last few mins before the meeting :) [22:06] popey: yeah sorry wasn't sure I was able to make it in time, I was scheduled for oceania last night but didn't happen. I understand if it's bumped though [22:06] fair enough :) [22:06] lets see what the others say [22:06] * paultag hugs popey [22:06] I turn into a pumpkin in 24 minutes, so it would be nice if we could start the CC meeting soon :) [22:07] pics or it didn't happen pleia2 :-P [22:07] hehe [22:07] :-D [22:08] heh [22:10] popey: thanks popey, owe you a beer :) [22:11] naughty APAC board [22:11] paultag: how're you? [22:11] Pendulum: well, thanks! How are you? [22:11] it rained today which is exciting because it wasn't snow! [22:11] Pendulum: right! [22:12] same here, it was pretty cool [22:12] I've not seen rain in a few months [22:12] and we have a mailbox up after almost 3 months without! (drunk driver + snowstorm = no mailbox) [22:13] thats 2 people that turned up this evening due to lack of A/O board [22:13] yup [22:13] * JFo is shamed on their behalf [22:14] it's really not fair :( [22:14] JFo: I already did that this morning when I apologized to them for A/O not showing up and suggested they add themselves to other meetings unless they wanted to wait until next month [22:14] yeah, still sucks that no one at all from the board showed up [22:14] hmmmm [22:15] actually I am reminded that today is QingMing Festival [22:15] wonder if that had anything to do with some of it [22:15] but that would be Taiwan only [22:15] well the person who is generally the best about rounding people up is in Australia, but she's currently in the middle of a big move so I suspect that's where part of it was [22:16] congrats head_victim [22:16] :-) [22:16] but it really shouldn't be one person having to remind the others [22:16] right [22:16] Thanks everyone [22:16] way to go head_victim :) [22:16] well, maybe this will be the catalyst for them to pay closer attention :) [22:16] Pendulum: yeah she's usually the only regular to turn up [22:16] JFo: it's not the first time :-/ [22:17] that is just sad [22:17] yeah :( [22:18] every single month! :s [22:18] I feel bad becasue then everyone has a go at them even though they were the only one turning up regularly [22:33] paultag: are we rooting for the same team tonight? [22:33] Pendulum: totally!!!!!! Go sox!! [22:34] :D [22:34] Pendulum: I'm going to the game tom. afternoon [22:34] paultag: you told me. I am jealous. [22:34] Pendulum: I'm going decked out with all my sox gear [22:34] :D [22:34] I'm so stoked :) [22:34] yeah, I never got the guts to do that when I was in NYC [22:34] mostly because I didn't want to get jumped [22:34] aye! [22:35] just like yankees fans in Boston, god save their souls [22:35] I've heard fewer truly horrible stories in Boston than I have in NYC [22:35] truth [22:35] or the poor Giants fan in LA [22:37] hahaha [22:39] popey: the lintco code has a lot of undocumented code for working with launchpad bugs -- it'd be pretty simple to fork lintco into something that will let a person file their bug all by themselves [22:39] paultag: did you not hear about that? the poor guy is possibly still fighting for his life in the hospital [22:39] for EMEA, that is [22:39] Pendulum: no! What? [22:40] paultag: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/04/giants-fan-beaten-dodger-stadium-reward.html [22:40] (that's just the most recent news, it happened several days ago) [22:40] Pendulum: oh shucks! That's not good at all, shoot! [22:41] yeah :( [22:41] there's like a 125,000 USD reward [22:41] wow [22:41] wait, more, 40 [22:41] yeah [22:42] $40k is still a lot [22:42] Pendulum: $140K [22:42] Oh wait, I keep reading it wrong [22:42] it's 100K flat [22:42] yeah [22:42] my brain is fried [22:42] * Pendulum hugs paultag [22:43] aww, thanks Pendulum [22:43] * paultag hugs Pendulum [22:45] BRB, shower and a bit of dinner. Love ya'll muchly. [23:40] USB creator is becoming my new bff app today...I think I am on my 4th install of one type or another