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* robert_ancell is getting really sick of alt-tab crashing. Who knew this is the most unstable feature ever?01:08
RAOFrobert_ancell: Those crashes seem to have been fixed for me; when did you last update?01:14
robert_ancellRAOF, I haven't seen them for a few weeks01:14
robert_ancellRAOF, oh, you mean the alt-tab?  They've just started again01:14
RAOF:(01:15
RAOFHm.  Banshee's profile output exceeds my terminal buffers :)01:17
TheMusoCan anybody point me to the webkit update policy post FF, or is there not one? I.e is it considered part of GNOME?02:58
TheMusoI ask because webkit 1.4 is being released this week, and I've been told by upstrea a11y people that it has some important a11y fixes.02:58
TheMusoRAOF, robert_ancell, are any of you able to resolve ubuntu.com atm?04:24
RAOFTheMuso: Yup.  Mine happily resolves.04:25
TheMusoHrm ok I think Telstra is playing up... This connectino hasn't quite been the same since the JP earth quake... Under sea cables affected me thinks.04:26
TheMusoWell its not just my connection/local area, even the Telstra mail server can't find canonical.com...04:42
TheMusoRAOF: Could you grab the IP for ubuntu.con or canonical.com for me please? I'd like to do a trace. Telstra and various providers using Telstra wholesale are experiencing routing issues, and I want to see if I can get through without trying to resolve DNS.05:00
RAOFTheMuso: 91.189.94.156 for ubuntu.com & canonical.com; 91.189.90.41 for www.ubuntu.com; 91.189.89.88 for www.canonical.com05:01
TheMusoRAOF: gees more than I asked for. :) Thanks.05:01
RAOFWell, I wasn't entirely sure what you were after, and since a lookup is essentially free…05:02
TheMusoJust one of those ips to see if I can possibly do anything without resolving DNS. :)05:02
TheMuso...and seems I can't. :S05:04
RAOFHurray for telstra, I guess.05:04
TheMusoYeah, Telstra, and anybody using Telstra Wholesale for international net connectivity.05:05
TheMusoI believe IINet are somewhat affected too.05:07
TheMusoah its back05:23
TheMuso...and there it goes again...06:15
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didrocksgood morning07:42
cdbsgood morning didrocks07:44
didrockshey cdbs!07:44
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mvohey glatzor! good morning, great to see you and thanks for your merge! will you have a change to look at my linitian branch as well?08:11
pittiBonjour mes amis!08:19
didrockssalut pitti!08:24
TheMusoMorning didrocks, pitti.08:29
didrockshey TheMuso08:30
chrisccoulsongood morning everyone08:34
TheMusochrisccoulson: Hey there.08:35
chrisccoulsonhi TheMuso, how are you?08:35
TheMusochrisccoulson: You may be able to answer my webkit question further in backscroll.08:35
TheMusochrisccoulson: Well thanks, had a bit of an up and down with the net today (not me, an upstream international link has routing issues), but otherwise well thanks.08:36
chrisccoulsonTheMuso, oh, i don't think i see any webkit question in my backscroll (my laptop died overnight, so I think I've missed a big chunk of time)08:36
TheMusochrisccoulson: Ah ok then. I was just enquiring about the update policy for webkit, now that we are passed FF. I have been informed that webkit 1.4 is being released this week.08:37
chrisccoulsonah, i'm not too sure about that. micahg would probably be the best person to ask for that08:38
TheMusochrisccoulson: ok thanks.08:39
rodrigo_morning08:41
* TheMuso waits till he gets intermitant access to ubuntu/lp domains again so he can upload...08:41
rodrigo_hey TheMuso08:42
TheMusorodrigo_: Hi there.08:43
didrockshey chrisccoulson, rodrigo_08:43
glatzormvo, morning! I am currently looking at the lintian branch. Would it be ok for you to ship the original test list by default and modifing it per distro patch?08:44
rodrigo_hi chrisccoulson, didrocks08:44
chrisccoulsonhi didrocks and rodrigo_, how are you?08:45
didrocksfantastic weather here! I'm really good, thanks. You? ;)08:45
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rodrigo_chrisccoulson, I'm fine thanks, and you?08:46
chrisccoulsonrodrigo_, yeah, good thanks08:47
chrisccoulsondidrocks, oh, you get nice weather? not fair ;)08:47
didrocksheh ;)08:48
* didrocks finds that totally fair on the contrary :p08:48
chrisccoulsonlol08:48
chrisccoulsonit is grey and overcast here08:49
chrisccoulsonlike always ;)08:49
chrisccoulsonwelcome to birmingham!08:49
chrisccoulson:)08:49
rodrigo_:)08:50
mvoglatzor: sure, thats fine08:50
mvoglatzor: note that the original list is not ideal as it e.g. kills /opt packages and we want those08:50
mvoglatzor: so I would suggest to remove that one at least08:51
chrisccoulsonlol @ ivanka-train - "Man opposite drinking Stella. Good morning commuter land!"08:51
chrisccoulsonhah, that's pretty impressive for this time of the morning!08:51
ivanka-trainchrisccoulson: rock and roll man. Rock and roll.08:52
ivanka-trainchrisccoulson: he is carrying a shopping bag which says: "Nature's way to beautiful"08:52
ivanka-trainchrisccoulson: hahaha08:53
chrisccoulsonlol08:53
glatzormvo, sounds sane08:54
pittiseb128: bonjour09:26
seb128hey pitti, how are you?09:26
seb128didrocks, lut09:27
didrockssalut seb12809:27
seb128didrocks, how are you?09:27
pittiseb128: I'm great, thanks!09:27
seb128didrocks, btw alt-f2 is still buggy there, I saw you commented on the bug saying it should wait and work fine now09:27
didrocksseb128: I'm fine thanks, very nice weather here :)09:27
seb128didrocks, I just did alt-f2 gedit enter and it started gnome-display-properties...09:28
didrocksseb128: let me check something09:28
seb128pitti, reminding you about the meeting reminder! ;-)09:28
didrocksmaybe that's related to one branch which wasn't merged last cycle09:28
didrocksrelease*09:28
* pitti ^5s seb128, merci09:28
pittiseb128: I was about to remind you :)09:28
seb128;-)09:28
* seb128 hugs pitti09:28
* seb128 hugs didrocks09:29
* pitti hugs back seb128 and didrocks09:29
pittiand chrisccoulson and mvo, too!09:29
chrisccoulsonhi! :)09:30
* didrocks hugs seb128 and pitti09:30
* chrisccoulson hugs pitti, seb128, didrocks and mvo09:30
chrisccoulson:)09:30
* didrocks adds chrisccoulson to the hug dance!09:30
didrocksseb128: yeah, just checked, the branch fixing that is not merged!09:30
seb128hey chrisccoulson, mvo09:30
seb128hey rodrigo_09:31
seb128didrocks, ok, stop lying to users on bugs then ;-)09:31
* bcurtiswx waves to room before going back to bed.09:31
bcurtiswx  Just had a hail storm, woke me up from a dead sleep.09:31
seb128didrocks, bug #74942809:31
ubot2Launchpad bug 749428 in unity "When we press Enter to run the first search result, Unity should wait until searching is finished" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/74942809:31
didrocksseb128: hum, no it was, wait… no only the relevant comment was fixed09:31
rodrigo_hi seb12809:32
didrocksseb128: so it should09:32
didrocksthat's gord's plate :)09:32
seb128didrocks, I've added a comment saying that the fix didn't get merged yet09:32
didrocksseb128: let me try09:32
didrocksoh, oh09:32
* pitti looks at http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/bug-fixing/natty-fixes-report.html and bows to mvo09:32
* mvo hugs the bunch chrisccoulson didrocks seb128 pitti09:32
gordseb128, didrocks we have a fix for that? i have a fix, in my head for that, but not something in physical form that launchpad can actually merge ;)09:33
didrocksgord: I was thinking you told that you fix the enter to comply launching the first enter after the search09:33
mvopitti: woah, look at didrocks, he is actually accelerating09:34
didrocksand njpatel added the "second enter" to first launching now while it's searching09:34
* didrocks hugs mvo09:34
pittimvo: yeah; even if we team up, there's no way of catching up09:34
mvolol09:34
gorddidrocks, the enter is fixed, has been for some time09:34
mvomaybe we need to team up all the germans to catch him09:34
didrockspitti: I'm adding a lot of exit() in the unity code, open bugs, and then will remove them ;)09:35
mvonext UDS we play "hunt-didrocks", everybody needs to run around and try to catch him09:35
pittihm, I should do that, too!09:35
mvothat is going to be fun!09:35
didrocksgord: seems it doesn't launch the first entry *after* the search09:35
mvodidrocks: dude, you totally copy my strategy! add silly bugs and then pretend to be a good boy by fixing them09:35
didrocksgord: if you type alt + F2, gedit very quickly and then enter, it will launch the first entry of the history09:36
mvodidrocks: fwiw I have seen the behavior of seb128 too, that it sometimes launches the *previous* item09:36
didrocksmvo: heh, strategy which wins :)09:36
didrocksyeah, it launches the first entry of the history, not the first entry of the future resul09:36
gorddidrocks, yeah - it just launches the first thing it see's - i'll assign to me and make it wait for search results to come in09:36
didrocksresult*09:36
* mvo hugs didrocks09:36
didrocksgord: thanks! ;) (and double enter to launch immediatly the first entry it sees, I thought njpatel added some code around that already)09:37
didrocksbut it was the day I was sick, so I probably dreamt about all of that. I should check my IRC logs :)09:38
seb128didrocks, bug #747439 can you milestone and assign? quite some users run into it09:39
ubot2Launchpad bug 747439 in unity "compiz crashed with SIGSEGV in CompWindow::id() while opening tcl/tk interface of R" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/74743909:39
didrocksseb128: already fixed in compiz IIRC and should be there ASAP we have a release (the gitk fix)09:39
pitti$ ls /var/crash -> empty; hmm, /me checks apport state09:39
seb128didrocks, can you set it as fix commited with a comment then?09:39
pittiit's enabled; what the heck did you guys do? :-)09:39
didrocksseb128: I'm looking for the master bug09:39
seb128didrocks, bug #745463 I just closed 2 duplicates from it you want to assign to someone09:40
ubot2Launchpad bug 745463 in unity "compiz crashed with SIGSEGV in Launcher::EnsureAnimation()" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/74546309:40
seb128pitti, see it's stable ;-)09:40
pittiSHIP IT!09:40
didrocksseb128: it's part of my "tabs opened" round (and that's why I targeted it yesterday). All critical/high bugs targeted will be reviewed after this release (as we have enough for now to fix)09:41
seb128didrocks, what about bug #74809609:42
ubot2Launchpad bug 748096 in unity "compiz crashed with SIGSEGV in Launcher::Launcher()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/74809609:42
seb128didrocks, let me know if I should stop, I list those who got some new bugs recently with some users concerned09:42
didrocks(hang on)09:42
didrocksI wanted to hack today :p and i asked yesterday omer26 and lamalex to gather a bug of crashes…09:43
didrocksI didn't see any activity09:43
didrocks(in addition to mine)09:43
seb128didrocks, well I'm basically building a list of common issues09:44
seb128but if you want me to stop doing that for unity I will go back to do it for other components09:44
didrocksseb128: no no, thats fine ;)09:44
didrocksjust hang on 5 minutes09:44
didrocksjust want to ensure that the tcl/tk issue is fixed09:44
didrocksIIRC, it was the ICCM bug, but I need to check09:45
kamstrupdidrocks: is this you? http://twitter.com/#!/didierroche09:46
didrockskamstrup: not that I know of ;) I'm not even didrocks as it's someone telling "I don't know how twitter works" :)09:49
didrocksmaybe I registered some time ago with that for some gwibber tests (same time than identica, let's test)09:50
rodrigo_didrocks, hmm, I think I'm following that other didrocks then09:50
* rodrigo_ removes it from friends09:50
didrocksrodrigo_: ahah!09:50
rodrigo_who dared using your name on twitter then?09:51
rodrigo_do you want us to "visit" him? :)09:51
kamstrupepic09:51
kamstrupdidrocks: can I be you on twitter? ;-)09:52
didrocksrodrigo_: http://twitter.com/didrocks# when you subscribe, it's quite easy to find it's not me, that doesn't sound like French :p09:53
didrockskamstrup: heh, I probably should take time to sign in :)09:53
kamstrupdidrocks: i was tricked because http://twitter.com/#!/didierroche follows some french stuff :-)09:54
rodrigo_didrocks, I just subscribed blindly, I thought there was only one didrocks on Earth09:54
kamstruprodrigo_: agreed. if there's more than one didrocks it must be a bug09:54
rodrigo_yeah09:54
didrocksmake it a singleton! ;)09:54
rodrigo_or someone trying to imitate the real and only didrocks09:55
kamstrup!09:55
chrisccoulsondo we have a new default wallpaper in natty now?09:55
didrocksyeah, I ask to get back my password on didierroche, seems it's indeed not me, received nothing ;)09:55
* kamstrup goesto register @fakedidrocks09:55
didrockssorry for the other guy, I don't care, I win on google :)09:55
kamstrup:-)09:57
didrocksseb128: ok, seems https://launchpad.net/bugs/747439 was fixed without being linked, we will use that bug for the reference09:57
ubot2Launchpad bug 747439 in unity "compiz crashed with SIGSEGV in CompWindow::id() while opening tcl/tk interface of R" [Medium,New]09:57
seb128didrocks, thanks09:57
seb128didrocks, btw bug #749675 is the launcher crash I got on friday when doing click,dnd hammering09:58
ubot2Launchpad bug 749675 in nux "compiz crashed with SIGSEGV in nux::BaseWindow::IsModal()" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/74967509:58
didrocksseb128: I saw it yesterday morning, I was hoping it will be triaged by our triagers, it got some dup meanwhile, adding to the list09:59
didrocksseb128: so on bug #748096 I was puzzled when reading it10:03
ubot2Launchpad bug 748096 in unity "compiz crashed with SIGSEGV in Launcher::Launcher()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/74809610:03
didrockshow can people start evolution double clicking the icon when we are in the Launcher constructor… (and so no icon and such…)10:03
seb128didrocks, did you figure it then? or are you still puzzled by it? ;-)10:06
seb128didrocks, btw can you run your script?10:06
didrocksseb128: I was just about shouting about incoming spam :p10:06
didrocksso yeah… I didn't thought again about it10:06
didrocksit's weird, and 3 people got it, so really exists10:07
ricotzseb128, hello10:07
seb128hey ricotz10:07
didrocksseb128: ok, won't spend time on this now, adding to the list anyway10:08
ricotzseb128, is someone updating gobject-introspection to 0.10.7?10:08
seb128didrocks, ok, anyway I'm done with my morning review for unity10:08
seb128pitti, ^ g-i update?10:08
pittiah, will look at that10:08
seb128ricotz, it can likely be synced from debian but better to check with pitti10:08
seb128he's the g-i dude around ;-)10:08
ricotzwould be nice to have it before uploading new gnome packages10:09
pittiseb128: nope, Debian has 0.10.410:09
seb128ok10:09
ricotzpitti, indeed ;)10:09
seb128ricotz, why?10:09
pittiI'll update it10:09
seb128did they break abi or something?10:09
ricotzseb128, no, but the fixed some bugs10:09
seb128bugs in the typelib generation?10:10
ricotzalso the included glib introspection is updated to the latest release10:10
seb128like things that we should rebuild everything against?10:10
ricotzseb128, i am not sure, but i was curious about http://git.gnome.org/browse/gobject-introspection/commit/?id=f91595e978b2b041a20173ea595dfafd67534a3b10:11
seb128well pitti will know better, let's see what he says after doing the update10:11
ricotzpitti, thanks10:11
seb128ricotz, thanks for pointing it!10:12
ricotzseb128, yeah, needed to ask walters first to actually upload the tarball ;)10:12
didrocksseb128: confirmed, I had to track it down, but it's the same :/10:18
didrocksseb128: basically all the compwindowid when set at 0 are fixed in compiz trunk10:18
seb128didrocks, ok, thanks, when is that likely to land in natty?10:19
didrocksseb128: today or tomorrow10:19
seb128ok10:20
seb128mvo, is somebody working on apt-xapian-index?10:46
seb128mvo, there is 6 bugs in the bug pattern needed list10:46
seb128mvo, i.e 6 frequent crashers10:46
mvoseb128: not as such, I can have a look, I know the code pretty well10:47
mvoI would rather want to fix the bugs than to add a pattern :)10:47
seb128mvo, if you could that would be nice ;-)10:47
* mvo looks10:47
seb128mvo, right, the bugpattern tag just means they have been raised as common issues10:47
seb128mvo, you want the numbers?10:47
mvoI have it already in front of me10:47
mvohttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt-xapian-index/+bugs?field.tag=bugpattern-needed10:48
seb128;-)10:48
mvojust need to finish some other stuff first (new apt, wooooh)10:48
seb128mvo, no hurry, would be nice if you drop a comment on those review to say if it's an issue or not or apport noise, etc10:48
seb128mvo, so I don't forget that I pinged about those and ping you again later on ;-)10:49
mvowell, if I haven't acted on them properly its fine to ping me again :)10:49
mvo(seb is a harsh master ;)10:49
seb128lol10:51
* seb128 hugs mvo10:51
seb128mvo, I'm showing you the way to beat didrocks ;-)10:51
seb128some competition ;-)10:52
pittiricotz, seb128: g-i updated, tested, and uploaded11:00
seb128pitti, thanks!11:00
* pitti afk for a bit on other computer, to test casper bug11:00
ricotzpitti, thanks11:01
dpmhi seb128, here's a fyi update on the conversation yesterday: translation imports from upstream bzr branches in source packages on Launchpad are not enabled unless explicitly done by the project maintainer. As per the translations failing to be imported for gdm, I've filed bug 75118711:05
ubot2Launchpad bug 751187 in launchpad "Upstream translations not being imported for some Ubuntu packages" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/75118711:05
seb128dpm, thanks11:06
dpmzw11:06
dpmyw11:06
seb128cassidy, there?11:08
seb128cassidy, unping ;-)11:10
cassidyseb128, yep11:10
seb128cassidy, we got a few duplicates during the night still of the crashes you fixed yesterday but I just checked they didn't upgrade yet to the version with the fix backported11:11
seb128cassidy, so unping ;-)11:11
cassidygood :)11:12
seb128cassidy, https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/726842 do you know if that's a known issue?11:15
ubot2Launchpad bug 726842 in empathy "empathy-auth-client crashed with SIGSEGV in g_closure_invalidate()" [Medium,Incomplete]11:15
seb128cassidy, it got duplicates from 2.34.011:16
cassidyseb128, looks like https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3470711:17
ubot2Freedesktop bug 34707 in tp-glib "Crash tp_g_signal_connect_object" [Normal,New]11:17
cassidyseb128, if you have steps to reproduce it, I'm interested11:17
seb128cassidy, the duplicates see it happens while connecting or reconnecting11:19
seb128but they don't have extra infos11:19
cassidyplease comment on the fdo bug if you have more info about the crash11:20
seb128cassidy, what sort of infos do you need?11:23
seb128cassidy, I can try asking for extra infos but it seems to just happen sometime on start or when reconnecting after a disconnection by reading the duplicates11:24
cassidyseb128, that's already more info that we have on the bug :)11:24
cassidyideally a valgrind log would be nice, but I guess that's tricky to get11:25
seb128ok, I can add a comment there11:25
seb128well you already have a valgrind log on the upstream bug11:25
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davmor2Hey guys what happened to all the work to unify the name of the rubbish bin?  Quick menu says "Empty Trash...",  App launchers label lists it as "Rubbish Bin",  Nautilus says "Move to Wastebasket" again12:02
seb128seems like an en_GB translation issue12:07
seb128those are called trash in the source12:07
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dpmdavmor2, seb128, it might be worth checking out if the translations done in Launchpad were overwritten by the upstream ones due to bug 710591. The en_GB Ubuntu team discussed the change at the time, but the GNOME upstream team never accepted it, so if Launchpad translations were accidentally overwritten, Rubbish Bin might be back to Wastebasket or whatever it was before.12:13
ubot2Launchpad bug 710591 in launchpad "Ubuntu upstream translation imports overwrite Ubuntu translations" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/71059112:13
seb128dpm, ok12:14
davmor2seb128, dpm: thanks guys :)12:16
davmor2I got to say though I'm getting happier and happier with the way that natty is shaping up keep up the good work I can't wait to see the finished product :)12:18
rodrigo_neither unity nor gnome-shell respond very well to switching users, so I guess it's something to do with the nvidia drivers, any idea?12:25
pittimvo: ooh, new apt fixes the candidate.architecture field? niiice!12:35
seb128rodrigo_, define not responding well?12:35
seb128pitti, hey12:35
seb128pitti, so people raised concern on the cairo gl bug that it's getting closer from natty and the issue is stucked12:36
rodrigo_seb128, unity just shows a black screen when switching back to the 1st user12:36
seb128does it happen using nouveau?12:36
rodrigo_seb128, gnome-shell starts going too slow after switching back12:36
rodrigo_seb128, hmm, haven't tested, with nouveau unity didn't work for me last time I tried12:36
rodrigo_I'll try12:36
seb128ok12:36
pittiseb128: I was planning to talk about it in the meeting12:36
pittiseb128: but I guess at this point we'll disable cairo in natty and have a wayland PPA? (well, there is one already, I presume)12:37
seb128pitti, ok, I'm just mentioning it so it doesn't slip throguh12:37
seb128pitti, well that's my preferred option yes12:37
mvopitti: yep, donkult is teh man12:37
chrisccoulsonb'ah, my firefox window doesn't have any window buttons in the panel anymore12:53
rodrigo_any X11 expert around?12:56
seb128rodrigo_, try #ubuntu-x13:03
rodrigo_seb128, ok, thanks13:05
mterryseb128, heyo!  If you have bugs you want to assign, I can take a bunch. I just finished yesterday with a bunch of quickly stuff, so I'm back on bug squashing13:27
seb128mterry, hey13:27
seb128nice!13:27
mterryElse I can dig through indicator-datetime bugs13:27
seb128mterry, guess what I just had some for you on my list in case ;-)13:28
seb128bug #75058813:28
ubot2Launchpad bug 750588 in appmenu-gtk "Geany's "New with template" submenu missing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/75058813:28
seb128mterry, ^ if you want to start with that one13:28
mterryk13:28
seb128mterry, if it's a corner case and it requires non trivial work maybe just delay to next cycle13:30
seb128I'm not sure how likely other application can do similar things and how much work it is to fix13:31
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* bcurtiswx waves to room14:35
patientfoxcurious if there were any gnome3 PPA users around right now?15:03
patientfoxhaving a serious headache building the latest gnome-shell from jhbuild, curious about the state of the PPA15:03
mterryseb128, more, more!  :)15:03
patientfoxi know that it won't run in a sandbox if i install from PPA15:03
patientfoxjust curious aboutt he state of things15:04
seb128mterry, see if you can make any sense of bug #74960915:04
ubot2Launchpad bug 749609 in libdbusmenu "unity-panel-service crashed with SIGSEGV in g_closure_invoke()" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/74960915:04
seb128mterry, it doesn't have a nice description but a stacktrace ;-)15:04
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seb128mterry, can you check with karl that he's understanding the ubuntu-geonames translation issue? his comments on the bug seems a bit confused15:44
mterryseb128, k15:44
seb128mterry, thanks15:44
fta\o/ i fixed the remaining issue with xterms15:46
jibelseb128, I got bug 751394 with today's iso. tested with kvm and vbox.16:08
ubot2Launchpad bug 751394 in gnome-session "gnome-session crashes on VM with *** gnome-session: free(): invalid pointer: 0x008e4ff4 ***" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/75139416:08
seb128jibel: it's a didrocks bug ;-)16:10
jibeldidrocks, ^ :-)16:10
didrocksargh…16:10
seb128didrocks, I think it's a fallback from your diff from yesterday16:11
seb128didrocks, do you want me to check on it?16:11
didrocksseb128: that will give a huge help yeah, thanks!16:11
seb128didrocks, you're welcome16:12
micahgTheMuso: I'd like to get webkit 1.4 in if it didn't break anything, if it does break stuff, I think I'd still like to get it in :)16:18
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seb128didrocks, jibel: ok, bug fixed (I think, I didn't test)16:49
seb128jibel: let me know how it goes with the new version once it has build16:50
didrocksseb128: great, what was it?16:50
seb128didrocks, in the livecd case you don't set the fallback message but you still g_free it16:50
seb128didrocks, I did init the variable to null to avoid that16:50
didrocksargh, of course…16:50
jibelseb128, if you have a build somewhere I can test it now.16:50
seb128jibel: I've uploaded so I will give you the url in a few minutes when it's built ;-)16:51
seb128will be easier than uploading local builds16:51
seb128jibel: what architecture do you use?16:52
jibeli386 or amd64. your choice16:52
jibelthe test was on i38616:52
seb128jibel: ok, launchpad will have an i386 deb in 5 minutes, get ready ;-)16:52
jibelit's better to test it now than waiting for a new iso.16:52
seb128right16:53
rodrigo_what's the branch for epiphany? lp:~ubuntu-desktop... seems to not exist16:57
rodrigo_ah, it's the one in debian, cool16:58
seb128jibel: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/2.32.1-0ubuntu19/+buildjob/242915117:05
seb128jibel: you probably want the 3 first debs17:05
seb128though https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/2.32.1-0ubuntu19/+buildjob/2429151/+files/gnome-session_2.32.1-0ubuntu19_all.deb might be enough17:06
jibelseb128, bug fixed. many thanks !17:16
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seb128hum17:18
seb128re17:18
seb128jibel: did you say the url?17:18
seb128say -> see17:18
jibelseb128, what do you mean?17:20
seb128jibel: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/2.32.1-0ubuntu19/+buildjob/242915117:20
seb128jibel: you probably want the 3 first debs17:20
seb128jibel: I copied those but I got disconnected it seems so I don't know if you received the pings or not17:21
jibelseb128, that's the build I tested and it fixes the crash.17:21
seb128ok great17:21
jibelseb128, ah ok, so you didn't see: "<jibel> seb128, bug fixed. many thanks !"17:21
seb128jibel: sorry I didn't get anything on the channel between 17:58 and 18:1817:22
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jibelnp :)17:22
seb128jibel: excellent, thanks ;-)17:22
didrockspitti: if you get a minute, can you have a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/744104 ?17:24
ubot2Launchpad bug 744104 in unity "Feature Freeze Exception: Animation for Grid Plugin Previews" [Low,Fix committed]17:24
ricotzseb128, i saw you updated avahi, isnt building the gtk3 packages like in the gnome3-ppa an option for natty too?17:24
seb128ricotz, seems it has little interest for natty itself, I would like to avoid doing extra changes not required by now17:25
seb128ricotz, but it someone would have submitted the ppa diff for sponsoring when it was updated it maybe could have landed in natty...17:25
ricotzok, i will try to update some things later17:25
seb128sorry if I already made that point before ;-)17:25
ricotzthe avahi gtk3 packages are need in the ppa ;)17:26
ricotzno problem17:26
seb128right, but it could have landed in natty directly17:26
seb128why are people uploading those in the ppa rather than asking for sponsoring?17:26
ricotzyeah, robert did that, but it missed some fixes too17:26
seb128the ppa is not meant as a way to hijack the archive and avoid getting things in the distro17:26
seb128it's there for new versions of things that we don't want to update17:28
* Sweetshark re-reporting in17:34
* pitti gets a load of backscroll, aah! netsplit?17:34
pittiok, so let's dive right in with the partner update17:36
pittikenvandine?17:36
kenvandinesure17:36
Laneyseb128 rodrigo_ can you wait for debian for tomboy? (sorry to interrupt the meeting)17:36
rodrigo_Laney, yes, I can17:36
Laney:-)17:36
seb128Laney, why? we have u1 diffs anyway17:36
kenvandineDX has a couple things17:36
rodrigo_right17:36
kenvandineNew API for setting urgency on launcher icon bug 74767717:36
kenvandineRemove API for setting emblem on launcher icon bug 74731117:36
kenvandinethe new API will be used by U117:36
mpttremolux, bug 75162817:37
kenvandinebut if anyone has issues with the removal of the emblem API, please scream loud now17:37
tremoluxmpt: thx, I'll look at it17:37
kenvandineok, moving on17:37
kenvandineU117:37
kenvandinea couple things with the music store17:37
kenvandineSetting amazon referral ID in banshee bug 74519417:37
kenvandineNotify user when there is no MP3 support bug 73332717:37
kenvandineall expected this week17:37
kenvandinethat is all i have17:37
kenvandinequestions/comments?17:37
ubot2Launchpad bug 747677 in ubuntuone-control-panel "[FFE] Need API to set urgency from background process" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/74767717:37
pittikenvandine: about the urgency API thing, I'm surprised that this comes up so late17:37
kenvandineyeah, explanation is in the bug report17:37
pittikenvandine: isn't that exactly what indicators etc. tried to remove?17:37
didrockspitti: this is a design request17:37
kenvandinebasically only way to set the urgency is by launching the control-panel17:38
kenvandineand we need u1-syncdaemon to be able to do it in the background17:38
ubot2Launchpad bug 747311 in unity-foundations "Launcher - Remove the capability for Launcher icons to be overlaid with emblems" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/74731117:38
ubot2Launchpad bug 751628 in software-center "Can't install from software centre: "this is not a genuine ubuntu package"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/75162817:38
ubot2Launchpad bug 745194 in banshee "Proxy redirect for Amazon referral codes" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/74519417:38
ubot2Launchpad bug 733327 in libubuntuone "[UI FFE] Notify user of missing MP3 support" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/73332717:38
kenvandinewow, ubot2 is a bit slow today :)17:38
seb128there is some lag it seems17:38
seb128pitti said he was lagged as well17:39
pittiit seems my end of freenode is as well; I get the replies in batches every two minutes or so :(17:39
* kenvandine hands the mic back over to pitti17:42
ogra_half duplex IRC ?17:43
cyphermoxogra_, feels more like IRC over sat link or IR :)17:43
chrisccoulsonheh :)17:43
ogra_heh17:43
kenvandinehaha17:43
chrisccoulsonit seems to be working ok here (i think)17:43
kenvandineme too, afaict17:43
rodrigo_same here17:43
didrockssounds good here as well :)17:43
* kenvandine gets a string and a couple cans to send one to pitti17:44
chrisccoulsonperhaps there are 2 different meetings going on in the same channel, but in parallel universes?17:44
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mterryUniverse #1 is the best, beats the rest!17:44
rodrigo_chrisccoulson, :)17:44
chrisccoulsonlol17:44
didrocksheh17:45
* Sweetshark wants a private universe, if there are so many ...17:45
chrisccoulsonoh, seb128 has jumped in to the other universe17:45
seb128hi17:45
seb128is it better with a reconnect?17:45
mterryseb128, yay17:46
seb128mterry, thanks17:46
* mterry welcomes seb128 back to our universe17:46
bcurtiswxthis seems like a universal desktop meeting.. <drum hit>17:46
seb128;-)17:46
mterryseb128, pitti is still missing17:46
chrisccoulsonhe's still in his own universe ;)17:46
bcurtiswxchrisccoulson, no no, he just divided by zero on accident17:47
chrisccoulsonheh17:47
ogra_nah, he is in the east of germany ... (admittely some kind of own universe) ... they have fiber to the house over there (while the rest of germany uses DSL) probably its foggy ...17:47
JanCFWIW: there was a "wallops" announcement that one of the freenode servers has issues which they are working on...17:49
micahgmterry: that's not what you said in universe #217:51
mterrymicahg, that was just between us!17:52
pittiah, seems to work better now?17:52
pitti(IRC, I mean)17:52
seb128pitti, does it?17:52
SweetsharkIRC = Incountable ReConnects17:53
rodrigo_:)17:53
bcurtiswxIRC = Irritable Reconnection Condition.  Research for a cure is still ongoing17:57
bcurtiswxeverytime they find a cure it gets lost in another universe.  Pitti was supposed to find it in his....17:59
bcurtiswxhmm, i think i'm caught on the event horizon of one of these proverbial black holes to other universes...18:02
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pittibryceh: not sure whether you saw the latest comments on bug 725434? the library split opened a can of worms, and I'm afraid it'll create more problems than it solves18:05
pittibryceh: do you happen to have another idea how to fix this? If not, it looks like we'll need to disable gl support in libcairo for natty :/18:06
rodrigo_Laney, seb128: as it's a trivial change in the ubuntu branch -> https://code.launchpad.net/~rodrigo-moya/ubuntu/natty/tomboy/1_6_release/+merge/5640918:08
seb128rodrigo_, thanks18:08
rodrigo_Laney, seb128: if there's anything new in the debian package, we can update it later18:08
seb128right, not sure why Laney wanted to wait on Debian18:09
rodrigo_Laney, ^ ?18:10
LaneyTo do the work once instead of twice. What's wrong with a merge?18:11
rodrigo_Laney, well, since we have a few patches specific to ubuntu, I think it's more work18:11
rodrigo_but I might be wrong18:11
seb128Laney, nothing wrong but it's one week before natty, it's not really merge time18:13
seb128the merge doesn't win us a lot out of not avoid to do it when next cycle start18:13
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pittiok, moving back here18:24
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pittibryceh: "I suppose you could check if they're installed" -> right, that was my question; do they have a version() or info() or anythign like that which libcairo could query?18:24
rodrigo_Laney, so, are you planning other changes? if not, can't you just merge my trivial change in the debian package?18:24
rodrigo_Laney, I can even provide you with a patch for the debian package's svn18:26
brycehpitti, I would guess there is, but my knowledge of libgl internals is a bit sketchy18:28
rodrigo_Laney, hmm, well, there's no tomboy in debian's pkg-gnome's svn18:31
pittibryceh: would you like to explore this possibility, or is it easier at this point to just disable GL support globally in cairo?18:34
ricotzseb128, i hope this is alright http://people.ubuntu.com/~ricotz/totem-pl-parser/18:40
seb128ricotz, thanks18:40
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ricotzchrisccoulson, hi, are you planning to upload a patched version of gjs using libmoz185 soon?18:43
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chrisccoulsonricotz, yes, but it's not particularly high on my list of priorities18:43
ricotzchrisccoulson, ok18:44
brycehpitti, glXGetDriverConfig or glXGetScreenDriver sound like they'd do it18:56
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ftaseb128, didrocks: did gdk change recently? https://launchpadlibrarian.net/68312726/buildlog_ubuntu-natty-amd64.compiz_1%3A0.9.4git20110322-0ubuntu6~fta2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz19:13
ftaoh, seems it did. 2.23.1 -> 2.23.319:14
ftaso next build of compiz will most likely ftbfs on amd6419:14
didrocksfta: i'll have a release tomorrow, so with luck, I'll catch him19:15
seb128well, the fail to build on implicit declaration was broken in launchpad as well19:15
seb128so maybe it's not a new bug but it was not breaking build before due to the bug19:16
seb128yeah, it's in https://launchpadlibrarian.net/67173970/buildlog_ubuntu-natty-amd64.compiz_1%3A0.9.4git20110322-0ubuntu5_BUILDING.txt.gz as well19:16
seb128didrocks, so make sure smspillaz fixes those warning for the next tarball19:17
ftatoo bad for my xterm fix19:17
ftaat least, i have it on 32bit :)19:17
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pittididrocks: sometimes the indicator part of the panel gets shifted to the right, and "cut off" at the end; shall I file a bug, or does it sound known to you?19:35
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didrockspitti: it's not, I saw that on dual monitor, but I thought it was linked to that19:41
didrocksseb128: ok, thanks :)19:41
pittididrocks: ok, filing then19:41
seb128pitti, do you use dual monitors?19:43
seb128pitti, or do you switch between laptop lid and external screen?19:43
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pittiseb128: no, I boot with and keep the laptop screen closed all the time19:43
pittiat session start I disable the internal one19:43
pittiit was working fine all the time, but when I returned from dinner it suddenly was that way19:43
seb128I get that even with laptop lid closed if I enable mirror and undo it for example19:44
pittiI put the external monitor on standby, nothing else (computer kept running)19:44
seb128ok, dunno then19:44
seb128https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/74285919:45
seb128pitti, could be that one19:45
davmor2hey guys is the drop shadow from the panel meant to be visible on all desktops in Workspace Switcher view.  ie click on workspace switcher note the drop shadow on each of the desktops?19:45
pittiI just have one unity-panel-service running, though19:45
seb128pitti, open a bug I guess but I doubt it will be of any use with steps to trigger it19:46
ricotzseb128, would you upload gnome-desktop3 3.0.0 if i point you to the package?19:50
pittihm, ~/.xsession-errors is rather useless these days -- 5 MB full of GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_closure_unref: assertion `closure->ref_count > 0' failed19:50
pitti(from compiz)19:50
dobeypitti: mine is full of crap from nm-applet :(19:51
ricotzseb128, http://people.ubuntu.com/~ricotz/gnome-desktop3/19:52
seb128ricotz, no, we are on sync with debian I would prefer to sync on them when they update19:52
ricotzseb128, ok19:52
seb128ricotz, I just synced the n-1 version today19:52
pittiargh, source_xorg.py is buggy19:52
pitti  File "/usr/share/apport/package-hooks//source_xorg.py", line 33819:52
pitti    ):19:52
pitti     ^19:52
pittiSyntaxError: invalid syntax19:52
pittibryceh: ^ known already?19:52
pittimissing a )19:53
bryceherf19:54
brycehpitti, thanks I'll fix19:54
brycehpitti, fix pushed20:01
pitticheers20:01
ricotzseb128, i need to upload it to the ppa then for continuing some updates20:04
ricotzseb128, crazy version bumps ;) there is a clutter 1.6.14 already :(20:21
davmor2kenvandine: gwibber lens update has blanked it again.  the only thing that seem to fill it again is crashing compiz.  to do that currently I open idle but there is a fix for that in the pipe works :(20:23
ricotzjust saw you already updated it20:23
pittididrocks: heh, just took me a while to upload xsession-errors; LP kept rejecting it, found out that I needed to copy it to /tmp/ first :)20:28
didrockspitti: oh really?20:28
didrockshow can it be that smart? :)20:29
pittididrocks: probably because it grows faster than I can upload it or so :)20:29
pittiI get some 20 errors with each move/click I do, after all20:29
didrockspitti: heh, we like spam :)20:29
didrocks(indicators as well)20:30
pitti$ grep -c 1747.*g_closure_unref .xsession-errors20:30
pitti3096620:30
pittismspillaz: ^ is compiz throwing so many g_closure_unref: assertion `closure->ref_count > 0' failed assertions known, or want a bug for that?20:30
pitti31022 now20:30
pittino, 3112620:31
pittiwhee20:31
smspillazpitti: thats probably a unity bug20:31
didrockspitti: will you believe me if I tell you have I have 0 of them?20:31
pittismspillaz: pid 1747 is compiz, though20:31
pittiah, it's the same process, isn't it20:31
smspillazand unity runs inside of compiz20:31
smspillazbo-dom-tch!20:31
pittididrocks: lies, I say!20:32
* pitti hugs didrocks20:32
* didrocks hugs pitti20:32
didrocksno, I would never do that :p20:32
pittididrocks: I can run with --fatal-criticals and apport it, want me to?20:32
didrockspitti: I fixed today some closure issue, so maybe it fixed it20:33
pittididrocks: you fixed  unref of an already deleted object?20:33
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didrockspitti: exactly20:33
pittinice20:33
seb128ricotz, indeed ;-)20:33
didrocksalso, there are been some fixes in the indicator stack for that IIRC20:33
Sarvattmine is filled with hundreds of thousands of gdk_pixbuf_composite: assertion `dest_y >= 0 && dest_y + dest_height <= dest->height' failed from nm-applet20:34
seb128pitti, didrocks:20:34
seb128$ grep ref_count .xsession-errors | wc -l20:34
seb128020:34
seb128pitti, report a bug with the stacktrace if you can20:35
didrockspitti: so, we are about making a compiz release20:35
pittiI see dobey's nm-applet spam as well20:35
didrocksshould we wait for the grid ffe review or delay it for later?20:35
pittididrocks: getting to that in a minute20:36
didrockspitti: excellent, thanks! :)20:36
pittiis there a way to start compiz/unity with G_DEBUG=fatal_criticals, but not other programs in my session?20:37
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pittiI have millions of criticals in my xsession-errors20:37
didrockspitti: seems that all the "Screen geometry changed:" are at startup time20:38
didrocks(you started more than 107 apps in your session, congrats!)20:39
pittioh, I guess I could run just unity with that from VT1 and restart it20:39
pittididrocks: it's running since the morning :)20:39
didrockspitti: so yeah, the screen resize isn't guilty it seems20:39
pittididrocks: bug 744104 reviewed/acked20:48
didrockspitti: excellent, thanks a bunch!20:48
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Laneyrodrigo_: I was just going to merge and upload it. Don't worry about it if you don't want to, but I think it's nice to work with Debian if possible.21:24
jbichaI have been having trouble since this weekend logging into any gnome-session except for Gnome Shell21:46
jbichaI think it's a bug in the gnome3 ppa21:46
jbichaI get this error: Failed to load session "ubuntu"21:47
nagappandidrocks, ping21:49
didrocksnagappan: pong21:49
nagappandidrocks, in this channel I asked yesterday a question about, enabling / disabling the appmenu at runtime21:49
nagappandidrocks, reason we need them is21:50
nagappandidrocks, in VMware Workstation, we too have Unity mode ;-)21:50
nagappandidrocks, where the guest application be rendered as host application21:50
nagappandidrocks, with Ubuntu 11.04, menu bar appears inside the guest top panel21:51
didrocksnagappan: I don't really have a clue on appmenu, it's part of the indicator stack, you can deactivate it application by application with the UBUNTU_MENUPROXY environment variable21:51
nagappandidrocks, I found some of the doc online -21:51
nagappandidrocks, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopExperienceTeam/ApplicationMenu21:52
nagappanhttp://www.webupd8.org/2011/03/disable-appmenu-global-menu-in-ubuntu.html21:52
nagappandidrocks, okay21:52
nagappandidrocks, can you please suggest me, whom should I ping ?21:52
didrocksnagappan: the envrionment variable isn't enough?21:52
didrocksyou should ping tedg otherwise21:52
nagappandidrocks, nope, reason:21:53
didrocksI think there is no other way TBH21:53
nagappandidrocks, if an user opens an application inside the guest VM21:53
nagappandidrocks, and then change to VMware Unity mode21:53
nagappandidrocks, the application menu doesn't appear21:53
nagappandidrocks, in the host env21:53
nagappandidrocks, or with the application21:53
nagappandidrocks, it will be nice, if we could enable / disable using some dbus service21:54
didrocksnagappan: I don't know enough about your prerequisite, but yeah, dynamically, it's not possible AFAIK21:54
nagappandidrocks, I have suggested the above methods to our developers (changing environment variable)21:54
nagappandidrocks, okay21:54
jbichamaybe I should just file a bug21:56
nagappanjbicha, about the above issue ?21:57
nagappanjbicha, sorry, yours diff one21:57
nessitapitti: ping22:00
pittihey nessita, how are you?22:00
nessitapitti: hey there! I'm pretty good, you? I just saw you approved a FFE for libunity (THANKS!). I was wondering if you would know anything about the status of the FFE request for bug #74267822:01
nessita(is a maverick FFE)22:01
pittinessita: I'm afraid no ack for SRU until it gets fixed in the development release22:02
ari-tczewnessita: you mean SRU, not FFe for maverick22:03
nessitaari-tczew: well, it requires an UI freeze exception as well22:03
nessitapitti: is already fixed and released on natty22:03
pittinessita: hm, the bug doesn't say so, all upstream and the natty tasks are open22:03
pittiColin mentioned this as well22:04
seb128re22:04
nessitapitti: how com you didn't comment that on the bug? I would mentioned that everything is fixed in bug 70949422:04
pittinessita: also, why does the branch change half of the glade file?22:05
seb128hey nessita22:05
nessitahey seb128!22:05
pittinessita: Colin did that on the branch, and I generally mostly look at uploaded stuff in the lucid/maverick queues (not on every bug report)22:05
nessitapitti: oh, you're right! sorry, I don't get notifications for branch comments (only for bugs). I'll check. Regarding the glade file, since we're unhidding a text entry, we need to make room for it, so we moved the login button to be just like in natty (next to the cancel/ok buttons)22:07
nessitapitti: branch answered and bug description updated stating that this is already fixed don natty22:09
pittithanks22:10
seb128dobey, hey22:10
dobeyseb128: hi22:10
seb128dobey, thanks for working on those crash bug22:10
dobeyseb128: of course. crashes suck :)22:10
seb128dobey, did you come to the same diff than chrisccoulson or just applied his update?22:10
seb128dobey, you could credit him in the changelog at least if you used the one he posted yesterday ;-)22:11
dobeyseb128: yes, but rather than waiting for him to make an upstream branch, i fixed both crashes in one branch, for both our stable and trunk. i'll push an sru to -proposed soon with the stable fixes22:12
seb128dobey, hum, https://code.launchpad.net/~chrisccoulson/ubuntuone-client/lp744758/+merge/56300 was an upstream merge request no?22:12
seb128dobey, but no worry, it would just be nice if you give credit in the changelog at least ;-)22:13
dobeyoh i didn't see that. hrmm22:14
dobeyweird. it wasn't attached to the bug when i looked earlier22:14
dobeychrisccoulson: sorry mate. :)22:14
pittinessita: I made it a dupe of the original bug22:15
nessitapitti: why! :-) I was following protocol creating a new bug for the FFE22:15
pittinessita: but it's not an FFE, it's an SRU22:16
nessitapitti: but but but :-)22:16
pittiit's already fixed in natty, so no FFE necessary :)22:16
pitti(we also don't routinely generate separate bugs for natty FFEs if they already have a bug)22:16
pittisplitting bugs that way makes it harder for everyone involved22:16
nessitapitti: I trust you, you're the boss. But in my defense I was told that we were in a constant UI freeze and feature freeze state for maverick22:17
seb128nessita, there is22:17
seb128nessita, but stable update = sru22:17
nessitapitti: but SRU sounds easier, so yey!22:17
seb128the ffe are for the current version22:17
seb128nessita, well the sru has a ffe component there but it's still a sru22:18
pittiyeah, this SRU actually has a UIF attached to it indeed22:18
pittibut well, it's still a bug22:18
pittiinterpeting UIF as not allowing to fix "it displays garbage" would be a bit stretched IMHO22:18
nessitaseb128, pitti: crystal clear, thanks for the clarification22:19
* pitti hugs nessita, sorry for the hassle22:19
* seb128 hugs nessita just because she does rocking work22:19
* nessita hugs pitti and seb128 back22:19
nessita:-)22:19
seb128tedg, hey22:23
tedgseb128, Howdy22:23
seb128tedg, how are you?22:24
seb128tedg, did you see someone came with a wxwidget fix ;-)22:24
tedgseb128, Eh, okay.  And yourself?22:24
seb128I'm fine thanks22:24
tedgseb128, NO!  Didn't see that.22:24
tedgNOW I'M GREAT!22:24
seb128tedg, it's on the bug and 2 people confirmed it to work22:24
seb128hehe22:24
seb128tedg, nice work on fixing crashed and lyx as well btw ;-)22:25
pittichrisccoulson, Sweetshark: did you guys ever figure out why libreoffice needs xulrunner?22:25
seb128crashers22:25
pitti(for bug 740815)22:25
chrisccoulsondobey - heh, that's ok ;)22:26
chrisccoulsonpitti - i've not looked at LO yet22:26
pittiso it's "just" LibO and mono noow22:26
tedgseb128, Yeah, getting there.  Dotting i's and crossing t's.22:26
seb128Riddell, do you plan to do binNEW today?22:31
Riddellseb128: I've been planning to do it all day :)22:34
Riddellneeding something?22:34
seb128Riddell, overlay-scrollbar if you can22:34
Riddellaccepted22:40
seb128kenvandine, ^22:40
seb128Riddell, thanks!22:40
kenvandineRiddell, thx!22:42
ftasince ~yesterday, everything i open from the unity side bar goes to workspace #1, instead of the current one22:57
seb128unity didn't change this week nor did compiz22:58
seb128did you try restarting your session?22:59
ftait does that after a reboot22:59
ftaand stops after a while23:00
ftabut i don't reboot very often, so it may have started earlier23:04
TheMusomicahg: Thanks for the heads up, a11y users will thank you. :)23:05
dobeylater all23:05
micahgTheMuso: well, I want to discuss with robert_ancell23:05
* micahg wonders where he is23:05
TheMusoProbably not on just yet, its barely past 8 AM here in Sydney.23:08
TheMusoI am an early starter most days of the week.23:08
micahgTheMuso: orly? I thought sydney was +1223:13
lifelessmicahg: NZ is +12 (in the absence of daylight savings)23:14
TheMusomicahg: Sydney is now +10.23:20
pittigood night everyone23:20
didrocksgood night pitti23:21
micahgTheMuso: ah, thanks, I'll adjust my expectations then23:21
jasoncwarnerhey TheMuso robert_ancell RAOF and bryceh23:59
jasoncwarnergoing to be 5 minutes late for meeting...finishing up call23:59

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