[03:27] <DammitJim> what can I use to compare the contents of 2 directories (recursively)?
[03:43] <munz> DammitJim,  diff?
[03:44] <DammitJim> thanks, got it!
[03:44] <munz> no prob... what did u use?
[03:45] <DammitJim> I had used diff
[03:45] <DammitJim> but I couldn't belive my eyes when it printed so much stuff
[03:45] <DammitJim> now I find out that cp or rsync were having problems with files in the same directory with the same name, but different case
[03:46] <munz> ohhhh ok
[05:46] <munz> ok, i have a weird bug... i've had it for a bit and been ignoring it.
[05:47] <munz> if i leave firefox maximized, and my computer locks the screen, when i unlock it,
[05:48] <munz> if i type in to the search it will keep highlighting the text after like 1 or 2 charters
[05:48] <munz> sooo if i type any more it replaces the text..
[05:49] <munz> if i minimize it and restore it it works right
[05:49] <munz> any ideas..
[05:50] <munz> oh.. 10.10 and ff 3.6.15
[05:50] <munz> anyone around?
[05:52] <munz> actually... this is reproduced on 4 different systems one is 10.04 others 10.10
[13:45] <reya276> Morning Everyone
[13:47] <munz_werk_> mornin reya276 
[14:11] <DammitJim> morning
[14:20] <reya276> a very good article http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/osrc/article.php/3929866/Problems-Linux-Enthusiasts-Refuse-to-Address.htm
[14:23] <reya276> and I think that guy is on to something which I myself have been trying to promote. Windows and OSX users in general are idiots (no-offense). And if we want to get those users to switch over we have to make things as easy as possible means (GUI) and Marketing(lots of it)
[14:24] <reya276> in Ubuntu repositories there is nearly an application substitute for everything that 90% of those users need and if not their is an actual Linux version if those apps, so what is the problem?
[14:25] <reya276> Its called NO MARKETING STRATEGY
[14:26] <reya276> Ubuntu is on to something now, with the way they are focusing on it. Now they are providing good tech along with good marketing, but what we need is Viral Marketing and only we can provide that
[14:27] <reya276> And we have sooooo many outlets to provide this on that it is laughable
[14:29] <zoopster> I don't think it's that simple, reya276
[14:29] <zoopster> A commenter basically stated the problem
[14:29] <zoopster> it's predatory, monopolistic practices employed by microsoft
[14:30] <zoopster> when linux vendors strike deals with big box companies, they are blackmailed into submission
[14:31] <DammitJim> I'd be the last one to say that it's hard to convince someone to use a linux machine when they are used to Office 2007
[14:32] <zoopster> DammitJim: what do you mean?
[14:32] <DammitJim> I say last because the first will be last and the last will be first ;)
[14:33] <zoopster> the reason I ask is I've never used office 2007
[14:33] <DammitJim> openoffice isn't "pretty enough" that's what my wife said
[14:33] <reya276> Ubuntu has already started this. The issue is that you have these jealous Linux users or those of whom love their CLI and now that Ubuntu has opted to provide more Windows like experience while still maintaining better security
[14:33] <reya276> and those other aspects of Linux. And all I've been hearing is all this noise on how they are going to switch, so let them who cares. They want to be stuck in the 90's and early 2000 then so be it. But it can be done and Ubuntu is trying to do it all it needs is our support
[14:34] <DammitJim> but that's not a linux problem.. that's an openoffice problem... oh, and the fact that she can't edit pptx files
[14:34] <reya276> zoopster, to some extend you are right, but MS can't black mail you right...because you are devoted to a cause. Marking matters
[14:35] <zoopster> agreed, but the biggest marketing problem at present is availability
[14:35] <zoopster> according to that article
[14:35] <zoopster> and I believe that to be the case
[14:36] <reya276> so yes on the Big Box level no Linux can't and probably will never get the same exposure say like on TV or radio or on Big Box vendor websites, but we can still make this thing Viral and that is what I'm talking about
[14:37] <reya276> but you are forgetting that most people live glued on to their PC's and TV has at some level become a secondary thing.
[14:37] <DammitJim> reya276, are you saying that exposure on TV can't be there because there is no funding for it? or am I missing your point?
[14:41] <reya276> We the community have to make it happen and to some extend we have, but now is the time to do it because Ubuntu has actually moved on to present day eye-candy status and believe me when I tell you most users whom are not power users love eye-candy and being able to point-click and done.
[14:41] <reya276> and 11.04 has finally gotten to that Level. Yes there will be some hardware issue along the way but in tutorials and software/HW support channels we have to make it a priority to state it, you don't go buying a Toshiba PC and spec Ubuntu to work 100% out of the box, for that you get a Dell. So what I mean is we have to look at the numbers.
[14:42] <reya276> Which brand of PCs does Ubuntu works out of the box with and with very minor issues.
[14:43] <reya276> once we figure that out, we can actually start advertising ourselves and letting the new Windows/OSX users in order for Ubutu to work out of the Box you Need XYZ period. Apple does it and their users are just fine with it right
[14:44] <reya276> forget about the existing Linux users they already know what the deal is, the focus needs to be on New and only New users
[14:45] <reya276> in fact most of these so-called Ubuntu followers are jumping ship because they don't like the existing version is too much point-click for them...trust me I've read about this junk all day yesterday.
[14:45] <reya276> sorry the upcoming version 11.04
[14:46] <DammitJim> reya276, dude, calm down... you are right, you've read too much junk yesterday
[14:46] <DammitJim> :D
[14:46] <mhall119> morning
[14:46] <DammitJim> but after all you've typed, what are you suggesting we do? 2 or 3 specific action points
[14:46] <DammitJim> hey mhall119 
[14:46] <reya276> DammitJim, I am calm just merely making a point
[14:47] <DammitJim> reya276, I guess I meant calm the typing down LOL
[14:48] <reya276> sure....
[14:52] <DammitJim> man, I hope I didn't piss of reya276
[15:46] <zoopster> well crap reya left
[15:46] <zoopster> dammit DammitJim
[15:46] <DammitJim> yup, you got it, zoopster 
[17:35] <DammitJim> have you guys used google cloud print?
[17:39]  * crashsystems wants to play with cloud print for fun n' profit
[17:40] <DammitJim> Linux support coming soon? WTH?
[17:49] <crashsystems> btw dantalizing, zoopster and anyone else with a nexus: http://www.whispersys.com/whispercore.html
[18:10]  * maxolasersquad Wants to play with cloud print as soon as Google support Linux.
[18:11] <DammitJim> I guess for now It's going to be just print through VPN
[18:12] <crashsystems> I'll be amused if someone finds a way to force other people's printers to print random stuff.
[18:12] <crashsystems> analog spam FTL
[18:14] <maxolasersquad> I wish there was a way I could disconnect my GMail from my other Google service, authentication-wise.
[18:14] <maxolasersquad> So if someone hacks any of my other Google services, my GMail is not touched.
[18:15] <crashsystems> you could set up a google apps account for your domain, and deactivate all other services.
[18:15] <crashsystems> I just wish there was a desktop/phone email interface I liked, along with an email server that had easy maintenance.
[18:30] <DammitJim> man, why is it so hard to get A2DP support on linux?!
[22:04] <DammitJim> dantalizing, do you have boxee on a pc?