[13:59] <DMDean> Can anyone help me install Kdenlive? I downloaded it and now when I open it it immediately crashes
[22:19] <antoni> hi. i need help making echo mia work under 10.10, it did after fresh install, but after some time (updates? installs?) it ceased to work
[22:23] <ailo> antoni, Hi. Does it work with jack?
[22:24] <antoni> ailo, let me check again for sure
[22:28] <ailo> antoni, You could try "cat /proc/asound/cards" to see if it shows as well
[22:30] <antoni> ailo, okay, just a moment
[22:33] <antoni> ailo, it DOES work with jack! either i haven't checked (my bad, though i doubt) or something was rectified via another update
[22:34] <ailo> antoni, But, does it not work with pulseaudio?
[22:36] <antoni> ailo, yes it doesn't. rhythmbox's mute, for example
[22:38] <ailo> antoni, Does this happen right after you login? qjackctl suspends PA on Lucid and Natty, but I don't think it does on Maverick. Make sure it is not running either way
[22:39] <antoni> ailo, you mean i should log out and in and check immediately?
[22:40] <ailo> antoni, That would be a good way to find out. Do you have any special startup applications? Just want to make sure you are not starting qjackctl at startup, for instance
[22:41] <antoni> no, not that i know of. automount on startup, i believe
[22:41] <antoni> okay, let me try, i'll be back
[22:49] <antoni> ailo, me again. okay, it does work. i have changed the audio preference from internal soundchip to mia, and it works. however i DID check it before, and it was wrong, so something must have been rectified. anyway it's a good turn out
[22:49] <antoni> ailo, sorry for trouble
[22:50] <ailo> antoni, No problem. It can be a little tricky sometimes
[22:51] <antoni> ailo, well, i had HELL with it on 10.04 and 9.10, as far as i remember, while earlier it worked okay. no idea what and why, i suspect firmware was omitted from some versions
[22:52] <ailo> antoni, was it giving you problems with jack also? I think there have been a lot of problems with PA, and not all of them because of PA
[22:53] <ailo> I used to have PA crashing now and then, but not for quite a while
[22:53] <ailo> At least not from normal usage
[22:53] <antoni> yes, with jack also. as far as i remember, someone from linux audio helped me forcing some firmware files (?) into the system, and it started to show in jack, but was still mute.
[22:54] <ailo> That's too bad. Hope support won't discontinue at any point. Don't think that card is supported on many systems anymore
[22:54] <antoni> it's most confusing when your soundcard stops working after upgrade to new release
[22:55]  * holstein is running 10.04
[22:56] <antoni> still, it would be the only reason for me to change it (when it'd be not supported)
[22:56] <ailo> I had that problem with my network cards on Debian, but that was because I think the firmware is non-free, and Debian ships a fully free kernel. Could be there's some problem with the firmware, that someone just needed to sort out
[23:06] <antoni> thanks again!