[03:27] <Dr416h7h> Hey everyone
[03:39] <ImagusXXII> Hey
[03:59] <Dr416h7h> Sorry, how are you Imagus22?
[04:00] <Unit193> Dr416h7h: Imagus22 disconnected
[04:00] <Dr416h7h> no problem... how are you Unit?
[04:01] <Unit193> Fine! just added a 1G stick and a DVD drive into this oldish Xubuntu comp!
[04:01] <Dr416h7h> cool, I hope they work well for ya
[04:02] <Dr416h7h> How long have you been running Xubuntu?
[04:02] <Unit193> On this box? not long...
[04:03] <Unit193> (IIRC this is a support channel and they don't like it when we talk non-support  :/)
[04:03] <Dr416h7h> understood... well good thing is that I do have a support question.
[04:08] <Unit193> I'll do my best to answer! (there is also #xubuntu-offtopic)
[04:08] <Myron> hello
[04:08] <Myron> I have a question
[04:09] <Unit193> !ask
[04:10] <Dr416h7h> Sorry I was working on the post but accidently pasted a butch of other into... so starting over.....
[04:10] <Dr416h7h> oh... what is your question?
[04:11] <Myron> is there a way I can move my /home folders to a spare hard drive
[04:11] <Myron> right now, I have everything on 1 80gb hard drive,
[04:11] <Dr416h7h> with me... my desktop icons/background/right click the desktop do not work. I did have missing titlebars and window decorations but got those back by running 'xfwm4'.
[04:12] <Myron> however, is there a way to move just the /home files to the spare 500gb harddrive that I have ?
[04:12] <Dr416h7h> @Myron, you can save off you info and reinstall and make another partition on another drive.
[04:12] <Dr416h7h> if you do not want to reinstall you can...
[04:12] <Myron> yeah without reinstalling would be preferrable
[04:12] <Dr416h7h> login as root, move the /home folder to the spare drive, and then make a symbolic link to that folder
[04:12] <Myron> I know I can do this at the point of reinstallation,
[04:13] <Unit193> !home | Myron
[04:13] <Myron> how do I make a symbolic link ?
[04:14] <Dr416h7h> That link is very detailed... and can provide other info to some unforseen issues/questions you might have
[04:15] <Dr416h7h> for me... I simply copied my folder to another partition and then made a link and logged back in.
[04:15] <Dr416h7h> I also keep my same profile during reinstalls and as long as I have my apps installed... everything works out great
[04:19] <Dr416h7h> You can also follow this tut on symbolic links: http://www.nixtutor.com/freebsd/understanding-symbolic-links/
[04:19] <Unit193> Myron: To answer your question of symlink: ln
[04:21] <lighta> hey guys, what's wrong with this cli ? rsync -r --exclude .svn ../lof_v2 ./
[04:21] <lighta>  I don't feel any recursive here :(
[04:21]  * Unit193 doesn't use rsync, so could only say !rsync and manpage...
[04:22] <Myron> I am thinking of just reinstalling,
[04:22] <lighta> yeah I found it ok I should do ../lof_v2/ otherwise not work :( damnn ! xd
[04:22] <Myron> because the graphx drivers aren'
[04:22] <Myron> t working that well with ubuntu 9.10
[04:23] <Unit193> Myron: you going with 10.10 then release upgrade?
[04:24] <Myron> Unit193, I am thinking of just installing this Xubuntu 10.10 disc that I have, once the harddrive is backed up.
[04:24] <Myron> not sure if it will make or break my video card drivers though
[04:25] <Myron> the jockey tool that detects drivers is working
[04:25] <Myron> and says I am running the Nvidia drivers,
[04:25] <Myron> however, I think that the graphics card is not good enough to drive this monstrous 27" screen
[04:26] <Myron> 24"
[04:26] <Myron> because when I move windows around, they lag, even though the drivers are installed
[04:28] <Myron> Unit193, this is the card I have:    nVidia Corporation NV44 [GeForce 6200SE TurboCache (TM)] (rev a1)
[04:28] <Myron> crappy ?
[04:29] <Dr416h7h> Along with my question here I've gone ahead and posted on ubuntuforums.org where I've posted my ~/.xsesson-errors: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10639295#post10639295A:
[04:34] <Dr416h7h> Anyone have any ideas why the icons/background/right clicking would be missing/unable to be used? The "Allow XFCE to manage desktop" cannot be found in the XFCE Settings Manager.
[04:37] <Unit193> Dr416h7h: I was waiting for someone that knows how to answer your question to show up
[04:38] <Unit193> Myron: I think you could boot a LiveCD and use the tool to get drivers for that (to check how well they work)
[04:40] <Myron> what is direct rendering, I am looking at a tool right now to display my computer's hardware and information
[04:41] <Myron> and it says direct rendering, none
[04:41] <Myron> sorry, Direct Rendering: NO
[04:41] <Myron> could that be why the windows are laggy when I move them around ect.. ?
[04:42] <Unit193> What program?
[04:42] <Myron> hardinfo
[04:43] <Myron> system profilers and benchmark tool
[04:43] <Myron> sudo apt-get install hardinfo
[04:43] <Myron> its in the OpenGL section..
[04:46] <Unit193> Same for me
[04:47] <Unit193> Myron: System > Additional Drivers
[04:47] <Myron> Unit193, yeah, system->additional drivers works
[04:48] <Myron> I installed the drivers through that program
[04:48] <Myron> its called gtkjockey, infact.
[04:48] <Myron> however,
[04:48] <Myron> I think its the graphics card itself,
[04:48] <Myron> because I am trying to drive a 1920 x 1200 24" display,
[04:48] <Unit193> On 9.*?
[04:48] <Myron> yes
[04:48] <Myron> 9.10
[04:49] <Myron> it works like 80% I would say,
[04:49] <Myron> I see a slight flicker once in a while
[04:49] <Myron> and when I move windows around they seem to lag
[04:49] <Myron> and, another example is this xchat program I am using
[04:50] <Myron> I have the background for this program set to transparent, so the wallpaper on the desktop is showing through
[04:50] <Myron> when I move the xchat window around, the transparent area lags
[04:50] <Myron> maybe I should install compiz fusion ?
[04:52] <Myron> I really don';t think that will fix anything though
[04:53] <Myron> its probablly just this crappy gfx card
[04:53] <Myron> Unit193, this is the card I have:    nVidia Corporation NV44 [GeForce 6200SE TurboCache (TM)] (rev a1)
[04:54] <Myron> Unit193, so what do you think ?
[04:54] <Myron> new card, or install ubuntu 10.10 ?
[04:55] <Unit193> LiveCD 10.10
[04:56] <Myron> try it out..
[04:56]  * Unit193 uses a built-in Optiplex GX 260 card
[04:56] <Myron> yeah I will do
[05:18] <Unit193> Myron: Tell me how it goes?
[05:23] <Unit193> popman: Are you in Ohio?
[05:23] <popman> yes I am
[05:23] <popman> why do you ask?
[05:24] <Unit193> Did you know Ubuntu has an Ohio LoCo?
[05:24] <popman> nope
[05:24] <popman> what is that?
[05:24] <Unit193> !loco
[05:25] <popman> o wow
[05:25] <popman> lol
[05:42] <Myron> Unit193, hey
[05:42] <Myron> just waiting for 15000 files to copy off the 500gb HD
[05:42] <Myron> so I can install Xubuntu 10.10 to it
[05:42] <Myron> but transfering from IDE to Sata is a SLOOOOOW process
[06:18] <Netrix> What is the best way to remove Linux images that I have but do not show up in the Synaptic Package Manager?
[06:19] <Unit193> Does "sudo apt-get autoremove" help? (doesn't always work for me :/ )
[06:20] <Netrix> Nope
[06:24] <Netrix> For instance, it says I have 2.6.35-25-generic, but when I try to boot it, there are all sorts of things that cannot be found and it forces me to use the low-res graphics driver.
[06:25] <Netrix> It can't find /fb0 and several other things. It seems like a messed up image so I just want to remove it.
[06:25] <Unit193> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/proper-way-to-remove-old-linux-kernels/ <--- helps
[06:26] <Netrix> An idea that I have is to install it through the package manager and see if it makes it work, if not, uninstall it and hope it removes the junk.
[06:26] <Unit193> sudo apt-get remove linux-image-2.6.35-25-generic
[06:27] <Unit193> ^^ Be VERY careful when you mess with kernel images!
[06:27] <Netrix> Well, it is actually a newer version, but I guess it should still apply.
[06:28] <Netrix> It says it is not installed.
[06:29] <Netrix> /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.35-25-generic and /boot/initrd.img-2.6.35-25-generic are present though... Should I just delete them?
[06:31] <Unit193> Check the link up ^^
[06:34] <gardenia> hello good day. I have been wondering why I couldn't copy files my xubuntu to another partition D: since I have double booting. Is there a way around this? I have used catfish but it wouldn't fetch files from there. Previously it did but now it just won't open to it.
[06:36] <Netrix> I checked the link. It does not show the version I am trying to remove and when I try to remove it anyway, it says it is not installed.
[06:36] <Netrix> What filesystem is the other partition?
[06:36] <Unit193> Netrix: dpkg --list 'linux-image*'
[06:37] <Netrix> I did that.
[06:37] <Netrix> I could show you the output if you want.
[06:37] <Unit193> !pastebin
[06:39] <Netrix> http://paste.ubuntu.com/589550/
[06:40] <Unit193> You don't want to uninstall that, it's your only one!
[06:41] <Unit193> Can you "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"?
[06:42] <Netrix> The one listed, yes. That is not 2.6.35-25-generic, which has files in /boot.
[06:42] <Netrix> I just did it. "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded."
[06:43] <gardenia> Good day. I have a file in xubuntu's My Documents which I would like to cut and paste into windows drive D: In ubuntu it's easy. All I have to do is cut and paste but in xubuntu, can't this be done?
[06:43] <Unit193> Netrix: Dang... I would *guess*(!) you could just remove them if it's not installed...
[06:44] <Netrix> Normally I probably would have just done that, except I was trying to do it the 'right' way.
[06:46] <Netrix> I don't know what causes Linux to explode and such, but it should be safe since they aren't used by the kernel that I am using right now.
[06:46] <Unit193> Netrix: I seem to be the only idiot on right now... but I would agree
[06:46] <Unit193> gardenia: Does gigolo (system > gigolo) find it? (I don't remember if gigolo does local HDDs
[06:48] <Netrix> gardenia, I just tried it with Thudar and it worked fine.
[06:48] <Unit193> Netrix: Thanks for reminding me to look that up! (just freed 300+ MB on my low spec system)
[06:49] <Netrix> Thanks for the help.
[06:49] <Unit193> Sorry I couldn't help anymore!
[06:50] <Netrix> One last question: Are the two files in /boot the only files for Linux images?
[06:51] <Netrix> Well, I mean the real data of the kernels.
[06:51] <Unit193> initrd and vmlinuz?
[06:52] <Netrix> Yeah. They seem to be the biggest.
[06:52] <Netrix> I am just curious because I am a programmer, but fairly new to how Linux does stuff.
[06:52] <Unit193> I think it's just what's in /boot
[06:54] <Netrix> Oh. I see now that the size reported for the current image is 128 MB, so that answers my question.
[07:23] <gardenia> Thanks netrix
[07:24] <Unit193> How did you get it?
[07:27] <gardenia> is it really thudar?
[07:28] <Unit193> thunar
[07:31] <gardenia> I can not see my drive d using thunar. Any other app that might do that?
[07:32] <Unit193> It won't say "drive D:"
[07:33] <Unit193> Can you give me a pastebin of "mount"?
[07:34] <Unit193> In terminal type "mount -l"
[07:37] <gardenia> can i paste it here?
[07:37] <Unit193> pastebin please
[07:37] <gardenia> /dev/sdb1 on / type ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[07:37] <gardenia> proc on /proc type proc (rw)
[07:37] <gardenia> none on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[07:37] <gardenia> none on /sys/fs/fuse/connections type fusectl (rw)
[07:37] <gardenia> none on /sys/kernel/debug type debugfs (rw)
[07:37] <gardenia> none on /sys/kernel/security type securityfs (rw)
[07:37] <gardenia> udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
[07:37] <gardenia> none on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,noexec,nosuid,gid=5,mode=0620)
[07:37] <gardenia> none on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev)
[07:37] <gardenia> none on /var/run type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,mode=0755)
[07:38] <gardenia> none on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[07:38] <gardenia> none on /lib/init/rw type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,mode=0755)
[07:38] <gardenia> binfmt_misc on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[07:44] <Unit193> gardenia: Type "sudo fdisk -l" then put that into pastebin at paste.ubuntu.com
[07:47] <gardenia> ok.
[07:49] <gardenia> http://paste.ubuntu.com/589559/            sorry i dont know how to use pastebin a while ago. thanks for the info
[07:51] <Unit193> This should do it: sudo mkdir /media/win && sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /media/win
[07:52] <gardenia> thanks unit193.
[07:52] <Unit193> You may want to come back later when smarter people are here and can tell you the best way to do it!
[07:53] <Unit193> No problem!@
[07:53] <gardenia> you're a life saver unit193. It works!
[07:55] <Unit193> Sorry it took so long :)
[08:09] <Sjors> Hi
[08:09] <Sjors> There's this server here, which is supposed to play music and display a graphical screen with what music is playing at the moment
[08:09] <Sjors> for some reason, someone put Xubuntu on that machine, even though it doesn't normally contain any other GUI other than X and the GUI
[08:10] <Sjors> so I tried configuring it to start the GUI automatically (as the 'marietjed' user, not root)
[08:10] <Sjors> however, even if I disable gdm to start at boot, an X window server comes up with the login screen, in gdm
[08:11] <gardenia> thanks
[08:11] <Sjors> first question: does any of you know why that is, and how I can disable that login window?
[08:12] <Sjors> currently I have fixed it with a workaround, which involves killing gdm 10 seconds after boot
[08:14] <Sjors> but then the splash screen stays around, for some weird reason
[08:14] <Unit193> I don't know if you can just remove gdm or not...
[08:15] <Sjors> I think if I remove gdm, most of gnome will be removed, and I need gnome stuff for the 'normal' graphical display, even if it's only mouse cursors
[08:16] <Unit193> You could use an auto login
[08:20] <Unit193> I would wait for tomorrow when this channel has more buzz too...
[08:48] <ochosi> Sjors: if you remove gdm you will only lose a metapackage (xubuntu-desktop) and the xubuntu-gdm-theme package and the xfswitch-plugin
[08:48] <ochosi> Sjors: you can always start your session with "startx" from tty
[08:49] <Sjors> ochosi: I should try that, thanks :)
[08:50] <ochosi> np
[11:29] <knome> sigue, please do something about your connection, or i'll have to banforward you again
[12:26] <fixxxermet> Hey everyone.  I have a dual-monitor setup (not cloned).  I want to rotate the left monitor only 90 degrees.  Tips?
[12:34] <Sysi> arandr if you don't have propietary driver
[12:36] <fixxxermet> Sysi: That works, but it turns both monitors 90
[12:37] <Sysi> hum, you maybe need to use xrandr directly then
[13:10] <ThinkT510> is xubuntu 10.04 LTS or does LTS only apply to ubuntu (gnome) release?
[13:10] <Sysi> it is LTS
[13:10] <ThinkT510> awesome, thanks
[13:10] <Sysi> same repositories for packages
[13:37] <Aquina> When *exactly* comes the day on which hardy gets abandonned?
[13:38] <Sysi> !8.04
[13:38] <Sysi> hrm
[13:43] <Aquina> Yeah thanks, but Canonical's official site states "April 2011". Do you know on which day, Sysi?
[13:48] <knome> Aquina, i suppose it's near the end
[13:48] <knome> Aquina, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyReleaseSchedule
[13:49] <knome> oh right
[13:49] <knome> that
[13:49] <knome> i suppose that's also near the end
[13:50] <knome> Aquina, looking from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases, they all are EOL mid- or end-month
[14:10] <Aquina> So I can assume the package upgrades distribution for 8.04 HH will come to a halt on Apr., 28 2011?
[14:11] <knome> Aquina, don't count on it, but yes, during this month.
[14:11] <Aquina> (Which is also the day when 11.04 NN will be released)
[14:11] <Aquina> ok, thx
[14:11] <knome> i suppose it depends if there is *very* important fixes in the end-month
[14:11] <knome> if there is, i'm sure canonical wants to push them in
[14:12] <knome> if not, then the last updates might be earlier
[14:12] <Aquina> We run some of these systems. We have everythin in place for upgrades already. :-)
[14:13] <knome> mm-hmm
[15:43] <likemindead> Halp? This morning's updates borked my Natty install. It loads to the login screen & freezes up. D:
[15:44] <ochosi> good to know, then i'll wait with installing updates in my natty :)
[15:45] <ochosi> no seriously, kernel freeze or what?
[15:45] <knome> lol
[15:45] <likemindead> Not sure. It even froze up when I tried to boot into recovery mode. :-\
[15:45] <likemindead> That's especially bad, isn't it?
[15:46] <ochosi> was it recovery mode with xserver or without?
[15:46] <likemindead> I held shift during boot, chose the recovery mode option in the GRUB menu, & it froze up a few seconds later.
[15:46] <likemindead> Didn't see any errors or anything.
[15:47] <ochosi> that's a drag
[15:47] <ochosi> so when you boot normally you can't switch to any other tty anymore after gdm freezes?
[15:47] <likemindead> Right. Tried to do that too. To no avail. :(
[15:48] <ochosi> hm, yeah, that sounds pretty borked then
[15:48] <ochosi> not sure there's much you can do, apart from booting a live-system (or another os, if you have one installed) and chroot from there and install updates/upgrades with the hope that they fix the issue
[15:49] <likemindead> How do I go about that?
[15:49] <ochosi> actually i think live-system would be a bit safer for chroot-ing
[15:49] <likemindead> Do tell?
[15:49] <ochosi> well, i could describe it here, but i assume it's better you get a good tutorial
[15:50] <ochosi> it's been some time that i had to do that
[15:50] <likemindead> Okay. I'll look it up.
[15:50] <ochosi> it's just a few basic commands though
[15:50] <ochosi> nothing yuo won't manage
[16:13] <likemindead> http://paste.ubuntu.com/589730/
[16:13] <likemindead> Hmm...
[16:14] <ochosi> likemindead: mount works differently
[16:15] <ochosi> likemindead: sudo mount /dev/sda2 $mountpoint
[16:15] <ochosi> likemindead: where $mountpoint is e.g. /mnt/sda2 (be sure to "sudo mkdir /mnt/sda2" beforehands)
[23:59] <aaronth> howdy