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ninwaI've checked compiz settings, and I've checked the gconf enteries for unity. Is there any way to get the dash to take up the full-screen at higher resolutions on open instead of having to click a resize button?03:00
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oSoMoNgood morning08:02
didrocksgood morning08:02
MacSlowgood morning everybody08:05
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OwaisLHi everyone, anyone in the mood of fixing a bug or helping someone out?10:38
ubot5Ubuntu bug 740232 in unity "Window control buttons in the panel don't respect metacity theme" [Medium,Confirmed]10:38
kamstrupdidrocks: can you paste me the output of a grep "'" /usr/share/applications/desktop*cache?11:05
didrockskamstrup: http://paste.ubuntu.com/590156/11:05
kamstrupdidrocks: perfect, thanks!11:06
didrockskamstrup: yw ;)11:07
szoneki have a problem with Unity after update from Ubuntu 10.10 to 11.0411:32
szonekit starts but doesn't display any window11:32
szonekwhen i click where window should be displayed it gets displayed11:33
szonekso it sort of works but doesn't display a thing besides cursor and background11:33
szoneki tried to run unity with logging11:33
szonekand i got:11:33
szonek<unknown>: Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server :0.0.11:33
szonekunity-window-decorator: Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server :0.0.11:33
szonekat the end of log11:33
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faganHey, how do you setup dual monitors in unity12:08
faganI have 2 and the second monitor is detected and working but the window management isnt working on that monitor and I cant drag to it12:10
faganbecause of the snap thing12:10
faganso is there any trick to getting it working?12:10
faganOr is it even implemenented yet?12:11
* fagan remembers jcastro talking about dual monitors in his blog but didnt say how he got it working 12:11
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szoneki have a problem with Unity after update from Ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04 - it starts but doesn't display any window. when i click where window should be displayed it gets displayed. so it sort of works but doesn't display a thing besides cursor and background. i tried to run unity with logging and i got: <unknown>: Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server :0.0. unity-window-decorator: Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailab12:29
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coz_ good day to all12:48
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szoneki have a problem with Unity after update from Ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04 - it starts but doesn't display any window. when i click where window should be displayed it gets displayed. so it sort of works but doesn't display a thing besides cursor and background. i tried to run unity with logging and i got: <unknown>: Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server :0.0. unity-window-decorator: Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailab13:05
kamstrupszonek: and you normally have 3d accel working?13:32
szonekkamstrup: i had it working before system update14:10
szonekkamstrup: gnome+compiz14:10
szoneknow i'm running gnome in safe mode without compiz14:10
szonek   File "/usr/bin/unity", line 72, in reset_unity_compiz_profile14:11
szonek     current_profile_schema = client.get_schema("/apps/compizconfig-1/current_profile")14:11
szonek GError: Failed to contact configuration server; the most common cause is a missing or misconfigured D-Bus session bus daemon. See http://projects.gnome.org/gconf/ for information. (Details -  1: Failed to get connection to session: Command line `dbus-launch --autolaunch=90248a76e5c2b081ce48657d4b8d96e2 --binary-syntax --close-stderr' exited with non-zero exit status 1: No protocol specified\nAutolaunch error: X11 initialization failed.\n)14:11
szonekin /var/crash14:11
om26ergood evening lamalex14:20
cdbsom26er: its morning for him :)14:24
cdbslamalex: Good morning14:24
om26ercdbs, for me its not :)14:24
bcurtiswxi just woke up... lol14:24
lamalexom26er, cdbs good morning14:29
cdbshi lamalex14:30
cdbsgood morning to you too14:30
kamstrupszonek: wow, that sounds scary... have you tried logging in as a different user?14:33
lamalexom26er, cdbs can you guys help us do some compiz regression testing today?14:35
cdbslamalex: okay14:35
mpttedg, hey, what's the current exact order of indicators in the menu bar code?14:36
szonekkamstrup: yeah it is ;) logging in as a different user doesn't work either14:39
szonekkamstrup: somehow i managed to click log out to switch back to my user without seeing anything :D14:40
tedgmpt, The macro order is [application] [system] -- system breaks down to: [sound, messaging, date, me, session].  application has some overrides, so in general it should be [{everything}, keyboard, ibus, power, network]14:40
tedgmpt, Though, it seems network isn't working...14:40
cdbslamalex: I g2g for now, will begin testing after an hour, is that okay?14:40
mpttedg, perhaps because it's looking for indicator-network instead of networkmanager?14:41
cdbskamstrup: Can you please look at the branch attached to bug #750262? I don't think that bug needs design discussion as its marked14:42
ubot5Launchpad bug 750262 in unity-place-applications (Ubuntu) "Alt-F2 in Unity won't open apturls" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/75026214:42
tedgmpt, Naw, indicator-network will go in the system set.14:42
cdbsoh wait, it was me who marked it needs-design, hmm. Unmarking14:42
tedgmpt, I probably got the ID wrong...14:42
mpttedg, yes, but does networkmanager go in the system set too?14:43
tedgmpt, No14:43
lamalexcdbs, sure14:43
tedgmpt, system vs. application is an implementation issue.14:43
tedgmpt, It was implemented as an app indicator.14:43
mptthat's the reason then14:44
* cdbs g2g14:44
mpttedg, one other question: Does the hplip notification area icon show progress or anything? Or is it just an access point?14:44
tedgmpt, I haven't played with it that much, but I've only ever seen it have the menu.14:45
tedgmpt, I've now removed it it's so annoying to have on my panel :-)14:45
mptthanks tedg14:45
tedgmpt, No problem.14:45
tedgmpt, BTW, you know that it can't be an app indicator yet, right?14:45
mpttedg, I've read bug 49787714:46
ubot5Launchpad bug 497877 in hplip (Ubuntu) "Support Application Indicators" [Wishlist,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/49787714:46
mptthat's all I know14:46
kamstrupcdbs: ok, reviewed14:47
tedgmpt, Basically it's because there isn't Qt KSNI support.  It's in kdelibs.  So "pure Qt" apps don't have a way to work.14:48
mpttedg, KSNI == KStatusNotifierItem?14:50
tedgmpt, Yes14:50
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mpttedg, are the application indicators in alphabetical order?14:59
tedgmpt, Kinda.  They're ordered first by category and then by name.  They can provide an override to that if they wish.15:00
mpttedg, and what's the order of categories?15:00
mpt(sorry, I know we discussed each of these at various times, but I never wrote it down anywhere)15:00
tedgmpt, Let me look, I'm sure I did what ever you told me ;-)15:01
tedgmpt, If you want to reference the gory details they're in this file: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~indicator-applet-developers/indicator-application/trunk/view/head:/src/generate-id.c15:03
mptthank you15:03
mpttedg, bug report: "hack" appears to be misspelled as "lack" :-)15:04
tedgmpt, Heh.  I got a merge request from pitti once that fixed the spelling in my comments :-)15:05
mpttedg, so what would be involved in, for example, making the battery menu appear in the system area?15:07
tedgmpt, Fixed the network manager one.  Had "nm_applet" instead of "nm-applet"15:07
mpttedg, so I'll need to reinstall and take a new screenshot? :-)15:07
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tedgmpt, Well, if that's your only requirement it's not a huge deal.  Just a refactoring mostly.  But, I've argued that if we're going to do that, we should take some ownership of the desktop power policy.  We're going to get all the bugs for everything that goes wrong, we should own them.15:08
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om26erkenvandine, Hi gwibber's quicklist have a quit item which is also shown when the service is not running, wouldn't it be better to remove it and just use the default quit?15:10
tedgmpt, I haven't looked yet at how gpm got refactored for GNOME 3, there was a rumor that it was going to be significant -- but I'm not sure yet.15:10
mpttedg, I was using it only as an example. I.e. if it should be [application indicators, messaging menu, battery menu, network menu, sound menu, clock menu, session menu], but if we don't have time/people to take over power management15:10
tedgmpt, Yes.  I think the larger issue is that it would start not being "just a patch to gpm" at that point.15:11
kenvandineom26er, not really15:11
kenvandinethat quit is "special"15:11
kenvandineit would be better if it was dynamic though, but when i did that quicklists didn't work in libunity15:11
kenvandineom26er, that shuts down the service and closes the client15:11
om26erkenvandine, alrighty, though it should be not there if the service is not running.15:12
kenvandinealthough i have no strong opinions about it shutting dow the service15:12
kenvandineom26er, yeah... good catch15:12
kenvandinei'll have to look at libunity and see if quicklists is working from python now15:13
didrockskamstrup: so, on the alt + F2 enter before a search is finished… seems we sent the search.finished () a little bit too early (I see the results being added after the pending enter activation is done), any idea?15:13
didrockskamstrup: like, if I comment search.finished () and let timeout, it works15:13
lamalexcdbs, make sure you update both statuses when you do unity bugs15:14
lamalexi'm seeing a lot with just the source package status changed15:14
lamalexwell.. 115:14
lamalexbut that's a lot.. erm... to me? :P15:14
om26erlamalex, on testing invisible window case I found something with the software center "about" dialog, so I should report it?15:17
om26ersmspillaz, Hi! I have found an invisible window over software center's about window(seem to be reliably reproduce able), what logs should I provide?15:20
kamstrupdidrocks: aha! finally realized the problem I think. We need a dee_shared_model_flush_revision_queue() before calling search.finished()... I wonder if libunity really should manage this... Otherwise we'll have similar issues in a bunch of differnet places...15:20
kamstrupdidrocks: without that we might emit the SearchFinished on the bus before we put the last revisions on there15:21
kamstrup(as DeeSharedModel syncs changes lazily)15:21
om26erhmm, could be bug 74453315:21
ubot5Launchpad bug 744533 in compiz (Ubuntu) "Invisible input window over software-center" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/74453315:21
didrockskamstrup: yeah, that's what I'm seeing with my printf in unity, results are received after :)15:22
didrockskamstrup: for me, search_finished means "result should be available"15:22
kamstrupdidrocks: ok, I just had a look at libunity, this is easy to remedy15:23
kamstrupdidrocks: hold on for a merge rq in 5 mins15:23
kamstrupdidrocks: you have a bug # handy?15:24
didrockskamstrup: sure, one sec15:24
mptcould you whitelist the gpm application indicator so that it appeared in its appropriate spot in the system area?15:24
smspillazom26er: wait for the next package uplaod all the invisible windows will be fixed then15:25
smspillazom26er: but just in case, an xwininfo -root -tree and then xwininfo -all on the invisible area would be great15:25
smspillaz(its usually some straggling frame window)15:26
om26ersmspillaz, will do, thanks15:27
didrockskamstrup: bug #74942815:32
ubot5Launchpad bug 749428 in unity "When we press Enter to run the first search result, Unity should wait until searching is finished" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/74942815:32
didrockskamstrup: I just duplicated the others :)15:32
kamstrupdidrocks: ah thanks a bunch. I had been pushing that task in front of me :-)15:33
didrockskamstrup: excellent :)15:36
szoneki have a problem with Unity after update from Ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04 - it starts but doesn't display any window. when i click where window/icon should be displayed i see it works but still doesn't display a thing besides cursor and background. i tried to run unity with logging and i got: <unknown>: Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server :0.0. unity-window-decorator: Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X serv15:40
kamstrupdidrocks: excellent! I can't reproduce here anymore :-) Peruse https://code.launchpad.net/~kamstrup/libunity/search-really-finished/+merge/5657915:42
didrockskamstrup: your machine is too fast :)15:42
kamstrupdidrocks: ssshhh :-)15:42
kamstrupdidrocks: actually this lappy is a 4 years old hog15:43
didrocksoh, not that bad ;)15:43
didrockskamstrup: you make the symbol public on purpose?15:45
kamstrupdidrocks: yes, it can be pretty convenient15:46
didrocksok :)15:46
cdbslamalex: /me is back15:47
mpttedg, ^ how easy would it be to special-case the gpm application indicator so that it appeared in its appropriate spot in the system area?15:48
tedgmpt, Non-trivial.15:49
tedgmpt, We don't communicate location in between all the indicator other than the initial placement.  So that would require indicator-application to be able to collate it's entries into the whole set.15:50
cdbslamalex: as for that syncing thing, yes, I did think about it when setting the status, but since it was a needs-design, I thought filing the bug on the source package also would be worthless until some decision is made15:50
tedgmpt, Basically, we don't have a language currently to express that concept to the unity panel.15:50
mpttedg, oh, I wouldn't have thought it would need a language, just the panel saying "oh, I know where you're supposed to be"15:51
tedgmpt, The panel doesn't know anything about the entries.  It knows about the indicators and each of them can have one or more entries.  So indicator-appmenu has a bunch, indicator-application has a bunch, but most of the others have one.15:52
mptI see15:52
tedgmpt, The panel puts the indicators in order, but groups their entries.15:52
lamalexcdbs, there's a process for needs design bugs15:52
lamalexhave you read the filing bugs wiki page?15:52
cdbslamalex: yeah, marking incomplete on both15:52
tedgmpt, I'm not against changing that.  But, that's where we are today.15:53
lamalexbasically you mark everything incomplete except for the ayatana-design task15:53
lamalexand then add a needs-design tag15:53
cdbslamalex: that's what I do15:54
cdbslamalex: oh, I forgot in the case of 1 bug15:54
cdbslamalex: thanks for reminding :)15:54
didrockskamstrup: approved15:54
jscherer26what is the bar that brings up the shortcuts called in unity?15:54
kamstrupdidrocks: now we have the problem that I split out a 3.0 series - i merge to both trunk and 3.0 and then it's your headache from there :-)15:56
didrockskamstrup: so, it will be in lp:libunity/0.2 or something like that, isn't it?15:57
rdale_i'm trying to get debug messages out of unity-2d-spread started with a '--debug' option and using qDebug(), but they don't seem to be going into .xsession-errors as i would expect15:59
om26erwhat does this bug ask to remove bug 747311 does it mean empathy's and evolution's pending notifications will not be shown?16:04
ubot5Launchpad bug 747311 in Unity Foundations "Launcher - Remove the capability for Launcher icons to be overlaid with emblems" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/74731116:04
cdbskamstrup: As for the branch of mine which you reviewed https://code.launchpad.net/~bilalakhtar/unity-place-applications/fix-750262/+merge/56526 I made the appropriate change16:06
cdbskamstrup: I had originally made the AppInfo.launch_default_for_uri change only, but software-center provided a better user experience16:07
cdbskamstrup: apturl can be rather confusing for an end user16:07
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AndreaAzzaronejcastro, thanks :)16:29
aruizis anybody having problems with the ddebs repositories for natty?16:29
jcastroaruiz: I had a problem with the compiz dbg package yesterday16:31
aruizjcastro, that's exactly what I'm trying to install16:32
aruizI'll do dist-upgrade and hope that'll fix it16:32
didrockscdbs: om26er: lamalex: in case you didn't notice, the detection tools changed in nux 0.9.38, so all crashes for it for a version before should be confirmed again. See for instance bug #74676616:38
ubot5Launchpad bug 746766 in nux (Ubuntu) "unity_support_test crashed with SIGSEGV in XF86DRIQueryExtension()" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/74676616:38
didrocks(0.9.38 is the current version)16:38
cdbsdidrocks: okay, thanks for informing16:38
didrocksyw :)16:39
cdbsdidrocks: So this change is only for detection tools like *_test, right?16:39
didrockscdbs: right, only unity_support_test16:40
didrocksom26er: btw, I tried a unity --reset here yesterday, it worked16:40
om26erdidrocks, unity_support_test is it in nux?16:40
om26erdidrocks, hmm, happened on two systems then I used teamviewer to correct things for them16:41
didrocksom26er: unity_support_test is in nux, yeah16:41
didrocksom26er: hum, can you still connect to them?16:41
didrocksom26er: I would be interested by the list of listed plugins16:42
om26erdidrocks, i'll meet em in uni tomorrow, none available at the moment16:42
didrocksom26er: no worry ;) just have a look at activated plugins after the --reset in gconf16:43
lamalexthanks didrocks16:44
om26erdidrocks, ok ;)16:44
om26erDBO, could you comment/look into bug 752574 please16:47
ubot5Launchpad bug 752574 in unity (Ubuntu) ""Double" Terminal icon on Unity panel" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/75257416:47
DBOom26er, the bug is being resolved16:48
om26ersuper awesome DBO16:48
DBOi wish I was super awesome DBO16:48
DBOsadly I am just standard boring DBO16:49
DBOable to leap tall buildings with the assistance of a catapult16:49
DBOunable to stick the landing however16:49
om26erDBO, you are still awe...wait-for-it..some :p16:53
lamalexom26er, you have never met him16:54
lamalextrust me, he's all flash and shine on irc16:54
lamalexbut in real life he makes you wish you were watching paint dry16:54
* DBO is actually a wall of already dried paint16:55
DBOof course, how can I compete with a man who has a tattoo of a park bench16:56
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cdbslamalex: So tomorrow and the day after will be my weekend, as I said last week. I'll work full-speed on Sat/Sun. Have to take a leave this Thurs/Fri for religious purposes17:28
cdbsI'm trying to complete most work today itself17:28
lamalexcdbs, what religion are you/what is on thurs/fri?17:29
lamalexis that the normal sabbath/whatever rest day, or a holiday17:29
om26eronly in gulf countries I believe, we used to have firday holiday 10years ago :D and sunday was working days, then the government realized international trade happens on thurd/friday and not on sat/sunday17:32
om26erlamalex, also please set this to confirmed bug 72232117:33
cdbslamalex: I am a muslim, and Friday is the most important day of the week17:33
ubot5Launchpad bug 722321 in unity (Ubuntu) "unity-panel-service crashed with SIGSEGV in g_variant_new_va()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72232117:33
lamalexwhat's thursday?17:34
cdbslamalex: and I am going to Madinah tomorrow and the day after (local weekend)17:34
cdbslamalex: Next week onwards I would work whole weeks except Friday17:34
lamalexhave fun17:35
om26er(upstream bug I meant)17:35
cdbsom26er: I usually leave those at confirmed17:35
cdbsom26er: oh, you want to re-open17:35
om26ercdbs, ;)17:36
om26ersomething changed in launchpad I beleive so not everyone can open a closed bug :/17:38
vishom26er: yup, they locked it down in lp.. only bug supervisors can re-open closed/fixed bugs18:10
vishpreviously , anyone can re-open even a 'wont fix' :p18:11
om26ervish, lp should detect if the person is bug-control and trust him to do sane things :p18:11
vishom26er: right, thats how it works for all (ubuntu) tasks18:12
vishom26er: but upstream tasks have their own supervisors, and they dont trust us :(18:12
om26ertoo bad :/18:13
vishom26er: you wanna know a trick? (how to open those)18:14
vishom26er: change the task from Unity to something else and reopen and back to Unity18:15
om26ermove to gwibber set the status and move back?18:15
* om26er is the bug supervisor of gwibber.18:15
om26erhaha launchpad is flawed18:15
vishsssshh! dont let lp devs know this ;)18:15
lamalexsmspilla|zzz, DBO does this look more likely to be a guake bug?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/74787218:18
ubot5Ubuntu bug 747872 in guake (Ubuntu) "Top panel in Natty sits over quake window" [Low,Confirmed]18:18
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om26erlamalex, could be a general issue as bug 743621 suggests18:27
ubot5Launchpad bug 743621 in unity (Ubuntu) "panel does not hide on the secondary display when running a fullscreen apps" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/74362118:27
lamalexom26er, i dont think it's the same issue18:35
lamalexi'm honestly blaming guake18:35
lamalexit's probably doing something weird18:35
Omegavish: O: teach me the way of lp18:40
vishOmega: May the force guide you!18:41
DaekdroomI'm puzzled. Somebody I'm talking to complained about the lack of the support to the Cube by Unity.19:25
zniavre_+1  (that is something unity-2d can do it )19:27
AlanBellhi all19:27
DaekdroomI think people do deserve to complain about unity in that regard, but they have to understand that the Cube is not compatible because it breaks the whole Unity design purpose.19:27
AlanBellI have been doing a bit of work on bug 751891 that I raised19:28
ubot5Launchpad bug 751891 in onboard (Ubuntu) "onboard does not follow Ubuntu branding and looks dated" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/75189119:28
Daekdroomand saying that ubuntu is all about goodlooks and that it's failing to do so because of the lack of a Cube plugin is pure garbage.19:28
AlanBellonboard is the on screen keyboard for tablet computers and people who prefer a touchscreen interface, possibly for a11y reasons, it looks like this at the moment: http://people.ubuntu.com/~alanbell/oldonboard.png19:29
vishzniavre_ , Daekdroom: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/711561/comments/1919:29
ubot5Ubuntu bug 711561 in unity (Ubuntu) "Compiz won't allow Desktop Cube plugin to load with unity" [Wishlist,Won't fix]19:29
AlanBellbut with a bit of colours from the branding pallettes and the ubuntu font and some rounded corners it looks like this http://people.ubuntu.com/~alanbell/awesomeonboard.png19:29
AlanBellso, what do you think? and what do I do next, I have attached a launchpad branch with my updates to the bug.19:30
vishAlanBell: not sure how you get it into ubuntu, but you could consider toning down the pink and make text not #000 color to something lighter (#333333 like wiki)19:34
AlanBellwell I went through the colours with people in the #ubuntu-accessibility channel to get a comfortable contrast whilst picking up elements from the design like #dd481419:35
AlanBellthe pink is actuallly a tone of the aubergine19:36
AlanBelland there is some cool grey in there somewhere19:36
nhainesOoh, I like it.  It probably won't affect UI Freeze, since it's not part of the main UI.19:37
AlanBellI am fine with changing the colours again, but what I really want help with is getting the letters into the centre of the keycaps, and getting it into Ubuntu19:37
AlanBellall the changes are really low risk, it would be nice to do more significant surgery on it but I want it to get in to Natty if possible19:38
nhainesHmm, I just booted from the Beta 1 Desktop CD... it somehow managed to give me Unity plus the classic bottom panel.  :)19:38
vishnhaines: I dont think it works that way.. its just UIF is for UI of any app19:38
nhainesvish: there have been any number of UI changes in apps on the basis of them being "design" changes.19:39
vishyea, but they need to get UIFe19:39
vishexception might be needed for this too..19:39
* vish looks at bug..19:39
nhainesI wish that seemed so true.  :)  Still, this might warranty a UIFe.19:39
AlanBellyeah, happy to do that19:40
AlanBelljust need to know what forms to fill out and who to poke with them19:40
vishbad bot!19:41
vishAlanBell: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess#UserInterfaceFreeze%20Exceptions19:42
OmegaIs it just me or does unity ignore your configuration after upgrading?19:42
vishAlanBell: so you'd have to send a mail to those doc and translations team(though just a formality for translations)19:42
AlanBellno translation impact, but yeah19:44
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senseThat whole thing with changing the "Find internet applications"-like strings in Unity to ones without Find in it hasn't been applied to Unity 2D, it seems.20:47
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