=== lamlex is now known as lamalex === _thumper_ is now known as thumper === smspillaz|zzzzzz is now known as smspillaz [03:00] I've checked compiz settings, and I've checked the gconf enteries for unity. Is there any way to get the dash to take up the full-screen at higher resolutions on open instead of having to click a resize button? === Amaranth_ is now known as Amaranth === _LibertyZero is now known as LibertyZero === ivanka is now known as ivanka-train [08:02] good morning [08:02] mornin [08:02] good morning [08:05] good morning everybody === daker_ is now known as daker === API is now known as Guest90552 === Guest90552 is now known as apinheiro [10:38] Hi everyone, anyone in the mood of fixing a bug or helping someone out? [10:38] https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/740232 [10:38] Ubuntu bug 740232 in unity "Window control buttons in the panel don't respect metacity theme" [Medium,Confirmed] [11:05] didrocks: can you paste me the output of a grep "'" /usr/share/applications/desktop*cache? [11:05] kamstrup: http://paste.ubuntu.com/590156/ [11:06] didrocks: perfect, thanks! [11:07] kamstrup: yw ;) [11:32] hi [11:32] i have a problem with Unity after update from Ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04 [11:32] it starts but doesn't display any window [11:33] when i click where window should be displayed it gets displayed [11:33] so it sort of works but doesn't display a thing besides cursor and background [11:33] i tried to run unity with logging [11:33] and i got: [11:33] : Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server :0.0. [11:33] unity-window-decorator: Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server :0.0. [11:33] at the end of log === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [12:08] Hey, how do you setup dual monitors in unity [12:10] I have 2 and the second monitor is detected and working but the window management isnt working on that monitor and I cant drag to it [12:10] because of the snap thing [12:10] so is there any trick to getting it working? [12:11] Or is it even implemenented yet? [12:11] * fagan remembers jcastro talking about dual monitors in his blog but didnt say how he got it working === daker_ is now known as daker [12:29] i have a problem with Unity after update from Ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04 - it starts but doesn't display any window. when i click where window should be displayed it gets displayed. so it sort of works but doesn't display a thing besides cursor and background. i tried to run unity with logging and i got: : Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server :0.0. unity-window-decorator: Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailab === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [12:48] good day to all === apinheiro is now known as apinheiro_lunch [13:05] i have a problem with Unity after update from Ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04 - it starts but doesn't display any window. when i click where window should be displayed it gets displayed. so it sort of works but doesn't display a thing besides cursor and background. i tried to run unity with logging and i got: : Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server :0.0. unity-window-decorator: Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailab [13:32] szonek: and you normally have 3d accel working? [14:10] kamstrup: i had it working before system update [14:10] kamstrup: gnome+compiz [14:10] now i'm running gnome in safe mode without compiz [14:11] File "/usr/bin/unity", line 72, in reset_unity_compiz_profile [14:11] current_profile_schema = client.get_schema("/apps/compizconfig-1/current_profile") [14:11] GError: Failed to contact configuration server; the most common cause is a missing or misconfigured D-Bus session bus daemon. See http://projects.gnome.org/gconf/ for information. (Details - 1: Failed to get connection to session: Command line `dbus-launch --autolaunch=90248a76e5c2b081ce48657d4b8d96e2 --binary-syntax --close-stderr' exited with non-zero exit status 1: No protocol specified\nAutolaunch error: X11 initialization failed.\n) [14:11] in /var/crash [14:20] good evening lamalex [14:24] om26er: its morning for him :) [14:24] lamalex: Good morning [14:24] cdbs, for me its not :) [14:24] i just woke up... lol [14:29] om26er, cdbs good morning [14:30] hi lamalex [14:30] good morning to you too [14:33] szonek: wow, that sounds scary... have you tried logging in as a different user? [14:35] om26er, cdbs can you guys help us do some compiz regression testing today? [14:35] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/QA/CompizReleaseProcess#Regression%20Testing [14:35] lamalex: okay [14:36] thanks [14:36] tedg, hey, what's the current exact order of indicators in the menu bar code? [14:39] kamstrup: yeah it is ;) logging in as a different user doesn't work either [14:40] kamstrup: somehow i managed to click log out to switch back to my user without seeing anything :D [14:40] mpt, The macro order is [application] [system] -- system breaks down to: [sound, messaging, date, me, session]. application has some overrides, so in general it should be [{everything}, keyboard, ibus, power, network] [14:40] mpt, Though, it seems network isn't working... [14:40] lamalex: I g2g for now, will begin testing after an hour, is that okay? [14:41] tedg, perhaps because it's looking for indicator-network instead of networkmanager? [14:42] kamstrup: Can you please look at the branch attached to bug #750262? I don't think that bug needs design discussion as its marked [14:42] Launchpad bug 750262 in unity-place-applications (Ubuntu) "Alt-F2 in Unity won't open apturls" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/750262 [14:42] mpt, Naw, indicator-network will go in the system set. [14:42] oh wait, it was me who marked it needs-design, hmm. Unmarking [14:42] mpt, I probably got the ID wrong... [14:43] tedg, yes, but does networkmanager go in the system set too? [14:43] mpt, No [14:43] cdbs, sure [14:43] mpt, system vs. application is an implementation issue. [14:43] mpt, It was implemented as an app indicator. [14:43] right [14:44] that's the reason then [14:44] * cdbs g2g [14:44] tedg, one other question: Does the hplip notification area icon show progress or anything? Or is it just an access point? [14:45] mpt, I haven't played with it that much, but I've only ever seen it have the menu. [14:45] mpt, I've now removed it it's so annoying to have on my panel :-) [14:45] ok [14:45] thanks tedg [14:45] mpt, No problem. [14:45] mpt, BTW, you know that it can't be an app indicator yet, right? [14:46] tedg, I've read bug 497877 [14:46] Launchpad bug 497877 in hplip (Ubuntu) "Support Application Indicators" [Wishlist,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/497877 [14:46] that's all I know [14:47] cdbs: ok, reviewed [14:48] mpt, Basically it's because there isn't Qt KSNI support. It's in kdelibs. So "pure Qt" apps don't have a way to work. [14:50] tedg, KSNI == KStatusNotifierItem? [14:50] mpt, Yes === jordan_ is now known as jordan [14:59] tedg, are the application indicators in alphabetical order? [15:00] mpt, Kinda. They're ordered first by category and then by name. They can provide an override to that if they wish. [15:00] tedg, and what's the order of categories? [15:00] (sorry, I know we discussed each of these at various times, but I never wrote it down anywhere) [15:01] mpt, Let me look, I'm sure I did what ever you told me ;-) [15:02] mpt, [OTHER, STATUS, COMMUNICATIONS, SYSTEM_SERVICES, HARDWARE] [15:02] thanks [15:03] mpt, If you want to reference the gory details they're in this file: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~indicator-applet-developers/indicator-application/trunk/view/head:/src/generate-id.c [15:03] thank you [15:04] tedg, bug report: "hack" appears to be misspelled as "lack" :-) [15:05] mpt, Heh. I got a merge request from pitti once that fixed the spelling in my comments :-) [15:07] tedg, so what would be involved in, for example, making the battery menu appear in the system area? [15:07] mpt, Fixed the network manager one. Had "nm_applet" instead of "nm-applet" [15:07] tedg, so I'll need to reinstall and take a new screenshot? :-) === API is now known as Guest74864 [15:08] mpt, Well, if that's your only requirement it's not a huge deal. Just a refactoring mostly. But, I've argued that if we're going to do that, we should take some ownership of the desktop power policy. We're going to get all the bugs for everything that goes wrong, we should own them. === Guest74864 is now known as apinheiro [15:10] kenvandine, Hi gwibber's quicklist have a quit item which is also shown when the service is not running, wouldn't it be better to remove it and just use the default quit? [15:10] mpt, I haven't looked yet at how gpm got refactored for GNOME 3, there was a rumor that it was going to be significant -- but I'm not sure yet. [15:10] tedg, I was using it only as an example. I.e. if it should be [application indicators, messaging menu, battery menu, network menu, sound menu, clock menu, session menu], but if we don't have time/people to take over power management [15:11] mpt, Yes. I think the larger issue is that it would start not being "just a patch to gpm" at that point. [15:11] om26er, not really [15:11] that quit is "special" [15:11] it would be better if it was dynamic though, but when i did that quicklists didn't work in libunity [15:11] om26er, that shuts down the service and closes the client [15:12] kenvandine, alrighty, though it should be not there if the service is not running. [15:12] although i have no strong opinions about it shutting dow the service [15:12] om26er, yeah... good catch [15:13] i'll have to look at libunity and see if quicklists is working from python now [15:13] kamstrup: so, on the alt + F2 enter before a search is finished… seems we sent the search.finished () a little bit too early (I see the results being added after the pending enter activation is done), any idea? [15:13] kamstrup: like, if I comment search.finished () and let timeout, it works [15:14] cdbs, make sure you update both statuses when you do unity bugs [15:14] i'm seeing a lot with just the source package status changed [15:14] well.. 1 [15:14] but that's a lot.. erm... to me? :P [15:17] lamalex, on testing invisible window case I found something with the software center "about" dialog, so I should report it? [15:20] smspillaz, Hi! I have found an invisible window over software center's about window(seem to be reliably reproduce able), what logs should I provide? [15:20] didrocks: aha! finally realized the problem I think. We need a dee_shared_model_flush_revision_queue() before calling search.finished()... I wonder if libunity really should manage this... Otherwise we'll have similar issues in a bunch of differnet places... [15:21] didrocks: without that we might emit the SearchFinished on the bus before we put the last revisions on there [15:21] (as DeeSharedModel syncs changes lazily) [15:21] hmm, could be bug 744533 [15:21] Launchpad bug 744533 in compiz (Ubuntu) "Invisible input window over software-center" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/744533 [15:22] kamstrup: yeah, that's what I'm seeing with my printf in unity, results are received after :) [15:22] kamstrup: for me, search_finished means "result should be available" [15:23] didrocks: ok, I just had a look at libunity, this is easy to remedy [15:23] didrocks: hold on for a merge rq in 5 mins [15:24] didrocks: you have a bug # handy? [15:24] kamstrup: sure, one sec [15:24] could you whitelist the gpm application indicator so that it appeared in its appropriate spot in the system area? [15:25] om26er: wait for the next package uplaod all the invisible windows will be fixed then [15:25] om26er: but just in case, an xwininfo -root -tree and then xwininfo -all on the invisible area would be great [15:26] (its usually some straggling frame window) [15:27] smspillaz, will do, thanks [15:32] kamstrup: bug #749428 [15:32] Launchpad bug 749428 in unity "When we press Enter to run the first search result, Unity should wait until searching is finished" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/749428 [15:32] kamstrup: I just duplicated the others :) [15:33] didrocks: ah thanks a bunch. I had been pushing that task in front of me :-) [15:36] kamstrup: excellent :) [15:40] i have a problem with Unity after update from Ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04 - it starts but doesn't display any window. when i click where window/icon should be displayed i see it works but still doesn't display a thing besides cursor and background. i tried to run unity with logging and i got: : Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server :0.0. unity-window-decorator: Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X serv [15:42] didrocks: excellent! I can't reproduce here anymore :-) Peruse https://code.launchpad.net/~kamstrup/libunity/search-really-finished/+merge/56579 [15:42] kamstrup: your machine is too fast :) [15:42] didrocks: ssshhh :-) [15:43] didrocks: actually this lappy is a 4 years old hog [15:43] oh, not that bad ;) [15:45] kamstrup: you make the symbol public on purpose? [15:46] didrocks: yes, it can be pretty convenient [15:46] ok :) [15:47] lamalex: /me is back [15:48] tedg, ^ how easy would it be to special-case the gpm application indicator so that it appeared in its appropriate spot in the system area? [15:49] mpt, Non-trivial. [15:50] mpt, We don't communicate location in between all the indicator other than the initial placement. So that would require indicator-application to be able to collate it's entries into the whole set. [15:50] lamalex: as for that syncing thing, yes, I did think about it when setting the status, but since it was a needs-design, I thought filing the bug on the source package also would be worthless until some decision is made [15:50] mpt, Basically, we don't have a language currently to express that concept to the unity panel. [15:51] tedg, oh, I wouldn't have thought it would need a language, just the panel saying "oh, I know where you're supposed to be" [15:52] mpt, The panel doesn't know anything about the entries. It knows about the indicators and each of them can have one or more entries. So indicator-appmenu has a bunch, indicator-application has a bunch, but most of the others have one. [15:52] I see [15:52] mpt, The panel puts the indicators in order, but groups their entries. [15:52] cdbs, there's a process for needs design bugs [15:52] have you read the filing bugs wiki page? [15:52] lamalex: yeah, marking incomplete on both [15:53] mpt, I'm not against changing that. But, that's where we are today. [15:53] basically you mark everything incomplete except for the ayatana-design task [15:53] and then add a needs-design tag [15:54] lamalex: that's what I do [15:54] lamalex: oh, I forgot in the case of 1 bug [15:54] lamalex: thanks for reminding :) [15:54] kamstrup: approved [15:54] what is the bar that brings up the shortcuts called in unity? [15:56] didrocks: now we have the problem that I split out a 3.0 series - i merge to both trunk and 3.0 and then it's your headache from there :-) [15:57] kamstrup: so, it will be in lp:libunity/0.2 or something like that, isn't it? [15:59] i'm trying to get debug messages out of unity-2d-spread started with a '--debug' option and using qDebug(), but they don't seem to be going into .xsession-errors as i would expect [16:04] what does this bug ask to remove bug 747311 does it mean empathy's and evolution's pending notifications will not be shown? [16:04] Launchpad bug 747311 in Unity Foundations "Launcher - Remove the capability for Launcher icons to be overlaid with emblems" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/747311 [16:06] kamstrup: As for the branch of mine which you reviewed https://code.launchpad.net/~bilalakhtar/unity-place-applications/fix-750262/+merge/56526 I made the appropriate change [16:06] thanks [16:07] kamstrup: I had originally made the AppInfo.launch_default_for_uri change only, but software-center provided a better user experience [16:07] kamstrup: apturl can be rather confusing for an end user === andrea_ is now known as AndreaAzzarone [16:29] jcastro, thanks :) [16:29] is anybody having problems with the ddebs repositories for natty? [16:31] aruiz: I had a problem with the compiz dbg package yesterday [16:32] jcastro, that's exactly what I'm trying to install [16:32] :-) [16:32] I'll do dist-upgrade and hope that'll fix it [16:38] cdbs: om26er: lamalex: in case you didn't notice, the detection tools changed in nux 0.9.38, so all crashes for it for a version before should be confirmed again. See for instance bug #746766 [16:38] Launchpad bug 746766 in nux (Ubuntu) "unity_support_test crashed with SIGSEGV in XF86DRIQueryExtension()" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/746766 [16:38] (0.9.38 is the current version) [16:38] didrocks: okay, thanks for informing [16:39] yw :) [16:39] didrocks: So this change is only for detection tools like *_test, right? [16:40] cdbs: right, only unity_support_test [16:40] okay [16:40] om26er: btw, I tried a unity --reset here yesterday, it worked [16:40] didrocks, unity_support_test is it in nux? [16:41] didrocks, hmm, happened on two systems then I used teamviewer to correct things for them [16:41] om26er: unity_support_test is in nux, yeah [16:41] om26er: hum, can you still connect to them? [16:42] om26er: I would be interested by the list of listed plugins [16:42] didrocks, i'll meet em in uni tomorrow, none available at the moment [16:43] om26er: no worry ;) just have a look at activated plugins after the --reset in gconf [16:44] thanks didrocks [16:44] didrocks, ok ;) [16:47] DBO, could you comment/look into bug 752574 please [16:47] Launchpad bug 752574 in unity (Ubuntu) ""Double" Terminal icon on Unity panel" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/752574 [16:48] om26er, the bug is being resolved [16:48] super awesome DBO [16:48] i wish I was super awesome DBO [16:49] sadly I am just standard boring DBO [16:49] able to leap tall buildings with the assistance of a catapult [16:49] unable to stick the landing however [16:53] DBO, you are still awe...wait-for-it..some :p [16:54] hahahahhahah [16:54] om26er, you have never met him [16:54] trust me, he's all flash and shine on irc [16:54] but in real life he makes you wish you were watching paint dry [16:55] * DBO is actually a wall of already dried paint [16:55] yah [16:55] exactly [16:56] of course, how can I compete with a man who has a tattoo of a park bench === Cimi__ is now known as Cimi === smspillaz is now known as smspilla|zzz [17:28] lamalex: So tomorrow and the day after will be my weekend, as I said last week. I'll work full-speed on Sat/Sun. Have to take a leave this Thurs/Fri for religious purposes [17:28] I'm trying to complete most work today itself [17:29] cdbs, what religion are you/what is on thurs/fri? [17:29] is that the normal sabbath/whatever rest day, or a holiday [17:32] only in gulf countries I believe, we used to have firday holiday 10years ago :D and sunday was working days, then the government realized international trade happens on thurd/friday and not on sat/sunday [17:33] lamalex, also please set this to confirmed bug 722321 [17:33] lamalex: I am a muslim, and Friday is the most important day of the week [17:33] Launchpad bug 722321 in unity (Ubuntu) "unity-panel-service crashed with SIGSEGV in g_variant_new_va()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/722321 [17:34] what's thursday? [17:34] lamalex: and I am going to Madinah tomorrow and the day after (local weekend) [17:34] lamalex: Next week onwards I would work whole weeks except Friday [17:35] neat [17:35] have fun [17:35] (upstream bug I meant) [17:35] om26er: I usually leave those at confirmed [17:35] om26er: oh, you want to re-open [17:36] cdbs, ;) [17:38] something changed in launchpad I beleive so not everyone can open a closed bug :/ [18:10] om26er: yup, they locked it down in lp.. only bug supervisors can re-open closed/fixed bugs [18:11] previously , anyone can re-open even a 'wont fix' :p [18:11] vish, lp should detect if the person is bug-control and trust him to do sane things :p [18:12] om26er: right, thats how it works for all (ubuntu) tasks [18:12] om26er: but upstream tasks have their own supervisors, and they dont trust us :( [18:12] ;) [18:13] too bad :/ [18:14] om26er: you wanna know a trick? (how to open those) [18:15] om26er: change the task from Unity to something else and reopen and back to Unity [18:15] move to gwibber set the status and move back? [18:15] :) [18:15] * om26er is the bug supervisor of gwibber. [18:15] haha launchpad is flawed [18:15] lol [18:15] sssshh! dont let lp devs know this ;) [18:18] smspilla|zzz, DBO does this look more likely to be a guake bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/747872 [18:18] Ubuntu bug 747872 in guake (Ubuntu) "Top panel in Natty sits over quake window" [Low,Confirmed] === daker is now known as daker_ [18:27] lamalex, could be a general issue as bug 743621 suggests [18:27] Launchpad bug 743621 in unity (Ubuntu) "panel does not hide on the secondary display when running a fullscreen apps" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/743621 [18:35] om26er, i dont think it's the same issue [18:35] i'm honestly blaming guake [18:35] it's probably doing something weird [18:40] vish: O: teach me the way of lp [18:41] Omega: May the force guide you! [19:25] I'm puzzled. Somebody I'm talking to complained about the lack of the support to the Cube by Unity. [19:27] +1 (that is something unity-2d can do it ) [19:27] hi all [19:27] I think people do deserve to complain about unity in that regard, but they have to understand that the Cube is not compatible because it breaks the whole Unity design purpose. [19:28] I have been doing a bit of work on bug 751891 that I raised [19:28] Launchpad bug 751891 in onboard (Ubuntu) "onboard does not follow Ubuntu branding and looks dated" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/751891 [19:28] and saying that ubuntu is all about goodlooks and that it's failing to do so because of the lack of a Cube plugin is pure garbage. [19:28] :o( [19:29] onboard is the on screen keyboard for tablet computers and people who prefer a touchscreen interface, possibly for a11y reasons, it looks like this at the moment: http://people.ubuntu.com/~alanbell/oldonboard.png [19:29] zniavre_ , Daekdroom: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/711561/comments/19 [19:29] Ubuntu bug 711561 in unity (Ubuntu) "Compiz won't allow Desktop Cube plugin to load with unity" [Wishlist,Won't fix] [19:29] but with a bit of colours from the branding pallettes and the ubuntu font and some rounded corners it looks like this http://people.ubuntu.com/~alanbell/awesomeonboard.png [19:30] so, what do you think? and what do I do next, I have attached a launchpad branch with my updates to the bug. [19:34] AlanBell: not sure how you get it into ubuntu, but you could consider toning down the pink and make text not #000 color to something lighter (#333333 like wiki) [19:35] well I went through the colours with people in the #ubuntu-accessibility channel to get a comfortable contrast whilst picking up elements from the design like #dd4814 [19:36] the pink is actuallly a tone of the aubergine [19:36] and there is some cool grey in there somewhere [19:37] Ooh, I like it. It probably won't affect UI Freeze, since it's not part of the main UI. [19:37] I am fine with changing the colours again, but what I really want help with is getting the letters into the centre of the keycaps, and getting it into Ubuntu [19:38] all the changes are really low risk, it would be nice to do more significant surgery on it but I want it to get in to Natty if possible [19:38] Hmm, I just booted from the Beta 1 Desktop CD... it somehow managed to give me Unity plus the classic bottom panel. :) [19:38] nhaines: I dont think it works that way.. its just UIF is for UI of any app [19:39] vish: there have been any number of UI changes in apps on the basis of them being "design" changes. [19:39] yea, but they need to get UIFe [19:39] exception might be needed for this too.. [19:39] * vish looks at bug.. [19:39] I wish that seemed so true. :) Still, this might warranty a UIFe. [19:40] s/warranty/warrant/ [19:40] yeah, happy to do that [19:40] just need to know what forms to fill out and who to poke with them [19:40] !uif [19:41] !UIFE [19:41] bad bot! [19:42] AlanBell: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess#UserInterfaceFreeze%20Exceptions [19:42] Is it just me or does unity ignore your configuration after upgrading? [19:42] AlanBell: so you'd have to send a mail to those doc and translations team(though just a formality for translations) [19:44] ok [19:44] no translation impact, but yeah === marcos_ is now known as Daekdroom === m_conley` is now known as m_conley_away [20:47] That whole thing with changing the "Find internet applications"-like strings in Unity to ones without Find in it hasn't been applied to Unity 2D, it seems. === jamalta__ is now known as jamalta