[00:00] S74rk7: /boot/grub/grub.cfg is auto generated as well wheny ou update-grud ^^ which is run when a new kernel is installed/removed .... /etc/default/grub would be a better file to back up [00:00] xptical: why not just stick with a Long Time Support release than? [00:01] I may. But I do like to have the latest hardware support. My Laptop doesn't work out of the box with 10.10. With 11.04, it all just works. === Guest52719 is now known as Aranel [00:13] I am thinking to give BURG a try... I just wanted to back grub up in case I killed something... [00:16] S74rk7: unless you have actually modified a file then reintalling grub should be enough [00:22] so pretty much if I kill something somehow... I should boot up off a livecd and reinstall burg or run the commands to auto generate it again? :) [00:23] S74rk7: yup [00:23] !grub2 [00:23] GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 [00:23] ^^ for refence if you need it :) [00:24] nice :) thanks guys... === |GuS| is now known as [GuS] === aclimatt_ is now known as aclimatt === AndrewKeenan is now known as 18VAAA86I === anuvrat is now known as 18VAAA847 === mgagne_ is now known as wftl === trapecistak is now known as diegocerdan [02:09] will i be able to upgrade straight from 10.04 to 11.04 or will I have to go though 10.11? [02:14] Walzmyn: You'll probably have to go through 10.10. [02:14] Walzmyn: afaik 10.04 -> 11.04 should be ok, possibly via 10.10... === Freejack is now known as Guest7294 === jussi01 is now known as Guest43108 === Frogger is now known as DarthFrog_ === DarthFrog_ is now known as DarthFrog === evilnhandler_ is now known as evilnhandler [02:35] lol i just found out how to view the different channels on this server (/list) :p that was giving me trouble for a bit on quassel [02:43] Fritz1793: using /msg alis list *searchterm* will give you better results [02:43] the /list command is server-intensive [02:44] valorie: lol thanks i noticed that all the thousands of channels all appeared in random order with that command [02:45] so do most people on this IRC server use kubuntu? [02:45] nope [02:45] ok [02:45] freenode is for free projects of all kinds [02:45] Fritz1793: Not on the server but, yes, on this channel. [02:45] kub. has three channels [02:46] lots of *buntu chans of all kinds and sorts as well [02:46] but it says i'm on kubuntu irc and on the kubuntu channel which are 2 different things, right? [02:46] ah [02:46] that is a redirect, I believe [02:46] we don't run our own server [02:47] you are in the #kubuntu channel on freenode IRC [02:47] "kubuntu irc" for short [02:47] ok [02:48] but on other channels it still says that i'm on kubuntu irc? [02:49] or is that due to the redirect thing you mentioned [02:49] probably so [02:49] or it might be how your client does it [02:50] ok [02:50] i'm using quassel which was preloaded so that might be it... [02:50] there are loads of different apps/ways to access IRC [02:50] including web pages [02:50] like facebook? [02:51] with the "chat" feature? [02:51] facebook uses XMPP, which is jabber [02:51] like GoogleChat [02:51] ? [02:51] sorry i can't quite understand jargon of that magnitude yet [02:51] that is another medium, like AOL IM and MSN [02:52] there are a few apps that allow you to use all of them, including IRC [02:52] ummm.... pidgin I think does [02:52] ok [02:52] and telepathy will, I believe [02:52] I pretty much just use IRC [02:53] and occasionally FB or Gchat [02:53] ok, i guess i'm still an initiate to this concept of the "internet" so i've just floated a bit === ralnaemi_ is now known as ralnaemi [02:53] ;D [02:57] so what does "+o FloodBotK2" do? [03:01] stops trolls from flooding the channel [03:01] and annoys everyone else [03:01] it's a bot, as the name indicated [03:02] ok [03:02] the +o part means it is a channel op, which means it has the power to do things like kick people out of channel [03:02] there are other bots like ubottu [03:02] who will answer questions [03:02] like... [03:02] !kubuntu [03:02] kubuntu is Ubuntu with the KDE Software Compilation instead of !Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support join #kubuntu - See also !kde [03:03] try it [03:09] !kubuntu [03:09] kubuntu is Ubuntu with the KDE Software Compilation instead of !Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support join #kubuntu - See also !kde [03:09] neato [03:09] could i create my own bots? [03:13] you can, but not for *buntu channels [03:13] they are rather heavily regulated [03:13] ok [03:13] but yes, people create all kinds of bots, and there is code for 'generic' ones, into which you put your own plugins, games, powers, etc. === txwikinger2 is now known as txwikinger [03:20] ok thanks for the excellent help! [03:20] bye! [03:23] nobody awake? [03:24] I'm awake, but don't know the answer to your question [03:24] hi valorie! [03:24] hello [03:24] actually, I don't see your question in scrollback [03:25] so you may as well ask again [03:25] no I've decided I'm gonna install burg instead... was worried but what the heck... if I break something least I'll learn to fix it.... [03:25] burg? [03:26] from my understanding and in short... [03:27] it changes the look of the grub2 menu... plain txt which looks intimidating to some - and gives it a bit of a gui [03:27] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Burg [03:28] I was wondering earlier how to backup grub before I tried this out... but I found out that you can pretty much repair grub if something goes wrong [03:28] so I'm gonna take a chance here and test it out... [03:28] lol [03:29] cool [03:29] come back and tell us about it [03:29] but my question now is... I've found a bit of a guide online that looks good but its telling me to install something called BUC too... [03:30] if it's on help.ubunbu.com, it's good [03:30] follow it [03:31] it looks waaaay too involved for me [03:33] Hopefully no worse than the time I had to setup to do installs over lan [03:35] ^^ dosnt look to involved [03:36] ^^ add the ppa -> install -> configure :) [04:11] when i active my desktop effects it jacks my sceen up when im scrolling [04:11] kubuntu 10.10 === Daughain is now known as Dau`gone === |GuS| is now known as [GuS] [05:24] o.o [05:25] hey guize, i'm trying to get to a directory where i have a file containing stuff to run in command line, but i can't cd to it? [05:28] can someone help me with modding my desktop? i'm using kubuntu and kde, but would like to use GDM as my login manager, and some gtk themes [06:48] !freenode [06:48] freenode is the IRC network that you're on! - See http://freenode.net/faq.shtml - freenode has policies that govern how people should use the network which can be read at http://freenode.net/policy.shtml - The Ubuntu channels on freenode also have their own !Guidelines [06:52] my / is btrfs, package acl is installed, but when I edit a file's "advanced permissions" and add an acl entry, click "ok, and later reopen the file's perms window, my entry has automagically tragically disappeared. How can I make ACL changes stick? [06:52] 64bit kubuntu maverick btw === Freejack is now known as Guest55923 === FireCrotch is now known as nickmoeck === Guest43108 is now known as jussi01 === jussi01 is now known as Guest36281 === Guest36281 is now known as jussi01 [08:26] Hello, I have installed Kubuntu on Lenovo laptop. When I log out, it just gives me black screen... What could be the problem? === jim is now known as Guest15377 [08:48] Miika-- try checking ~/.xsession-errors and /var/log/Xorg.0.log for anything relevant === coaboa_ is now known as coaboa === ich is now known as Guest11117 === Guest11117 is now known as asdsdsdf === s is now known as Guest26090 === Richard is now known as Guest91773 === Freejack is now known as Guest58347 [10:22] hi [10:23] how i start jbossas with a kubuntu 10.10? === dantti__ is now known as dantti === guest is now known as Guest28636 [12:59] Howdy === ironfroggy__ is now known as ironfroggy [13:13] Good morning everyone === real_ate__ is now known as real_ate [13:24] good morning , MajinSaiyan [13:24] how are you, Blueskaj? [13:25] just fine thanks , and you , MajinSaiyan ? [13:30] MajinSaiyan, so what's your question ? [13:31] Well i don't have a question right now....i'm trying to get used to the system..... [13:32] Thank you for asking though. I apreciate it. [13:33] MajinSaiyan, ok , if you want to do some offtopic discussion , #kubuntu-offtopic is where we hang out to chat [13:34] Ok Thank you for letting me know === mren|off is now known as mren [14:07] Can anyone help me? I have Kubuntu 10.10 and just installed a tool for converting .dmg files to image files. I can locate the tool in /root/usr/bin but i can't open the exe file. When i click it nothing happens. What am i doing wrong? [14:09] what is the name of this tools? [14:09] dmg2img [14:09] i used KPackageKit to get it [14:10] try press alt+F2 and type this name [14:10] then hit Enter [14:11] or look int Applications menu [14:11] in* [14:12] i tried both and it still doesn't work :/ [14:12] * James147 wonders why any application would install to /root/... [14:12] ^^ suggests its not installed where it should and thus not on the path ^^ [14:13] MajinSaiyan: what tool did you download [14:13] that's strange since i used the software center to install the file [14:13] it's called dmg2img [14:13] MajinSaiyan: yeah, i have never seen the packagemanager install to weird locations like that [14:14] * James147 goes to try installing it [14:14] Thanks for your help guys.....i've installed a few programs and have located them in the /bin folder, but i can't run them [14:15] MajinSaiyan: most if not all tools in /bin are command line tools ^^ [14:15] oh i see.....i guess i have to learn how to use the terminal [14:16] MajinSaiyan: I just inslled dmg2img from kpackagekit and it installed to /usr/bin/... as it should [14:16] MajinSaiyan: suggests to me that something is wrong with your system if it didnt :S [14:16] are you able to open the tool just fine? [14:17] MajinSaiyan: Yes, it appears to run (or at least display the help message) [14:18] i still can't get mine to work....let me try the steps once more [14:25] i couldn't get it to work. I will try again later....gotta get ready for work. Thanks for your help, Juan and James147. [14:40] hi, anyone know of 'location aware' tools for kubuntu? [14:41] ie, when connected to my home network, I don't want to have my computer ask for my password on resume from suspend [14:45] legodude: there is the bluetooth lock ^^ which will lock/unlock your computer baised on if a certian bluetooth devices is detected or not [14:54] hi, anyone know what is the file to edit to enable double click instead simple click on KDE? [14:55] Fearless13: System Setting -> Keyboard & Mouse or System Settings -> Input Devices -> Mouse [14:56] Yep tsimpson but I was looking for the file to edit you see? Doing it with the shell [14:58] Fearless13: ~/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals [14:58] hm [14:58] look for "[KDE]" and the line "SingleClick=true", change it to "SingleClick=false" [14:59] I don't have this line in my kdeglobals :s [15:00] I'm gonna add it maybe [15:00] as long as it's under the "[KDE]" section [15:00] I don't have [KDE] section neither.. [15:01] then you should probably add that too [15:01] I have to reload it afterthat? [15:01] :D [15:02] probably login/out [15:02] or just run "kbuildsycoca4" [15:04] ok let's try [15:07] Not bad tsimpson not bad... How did you find out? [15:07] grep [15:07] grep -r Click ~/.kde/config/ [15:08] I did "click" first, didn't see anything useful, so capitalized [15:08] Ok thx [15:08] then I tested by changing to use single-click and see what changed [15:09] Unfortunately it wouldn't have worked for me because of the absence of this parameter in my files ! [15:09] I've upgraded through many versions of KDE, so I have lots of settings stored [15:10] Put your .kde/config online I'm gonna grep if I need.. LOL ! [15:10] I'd rather not ;) [15:11] I was jokin ;) [15:11] Anyway thanks for your help and the tip [15:11] no problem [15:12] ooi [15:21] when will 11.04 come up? [15:23] still beta [15:23] chan ubuntu+1 === maxim is now known as Guest7369 === 20QAAH6SH is now known as ooki2day === el2ro__ is now known as el2ro_ [16:09] is it safe to install kde 4.6 in ubuntu 10.10? [16:09] sudipta, I'm running kde 4.6 on 10.10 without any mishaps [16:10] ok...i was thinking to give it a try......been a long time gnome user [16:11] sudipta, you can choose which desktop you want to use at login , but youll need to choose a default window manager, either one will do gdm or kdm. [16:11] sudipta: there are some kde pim related bugs, nothing serious though [16:11] sudipta, one question , laptop or desktop? === yoyo is now known as yoyospins [16:12] desktop.... [16:12] ok, sudipta , enjoy kde :) === yoyospins is now known as yoyo [16:13] can i use gdm in gnome and kdm in kde? [16:14] you only need to use one or the other [16:14] it's only used to start the desktop, nothing more [16:14] i want just to use the Desk. envrnmnt.... [16:15] sudipta: both kdm and gdm can log you into both gnome and KDE (and others) [16:16] ok [16:16] sudipta, tsimpson just answered your question , it's immaterial which window manager you use [16:16] *display manager [16:16] right tsimpson sry :) [16:16] :) [16:17] i am going to uninstall all the softwares that r gonna be installed duting kubuntu-desktop installation.....] [16:17] why? [16:23] * BluesKaj wonders if kde and wayland will be a good fit [16:27] * Peace- will doing a dvd with kubuntu +lxde === cmagina is now known as cmagina-lunch [17:39] How unstable is Kubuntu 11.04 right now? [17:39] afief: #ubuntu+1 would be better place to ask [17:40] Tm_T: I was afraid they'd focus on problems with Unity instead of the distro itself === cmagina-lunch is now known as cmagina === ruben is now known as Guest58997 === AndChat| is now known as Daughain-mobile === magical_trevsky is now known as magical [19:53] waht's a good KDE based recording application? [19:59] katsrc, that depends on the media , target and the source [20:00] BluesKaj: lets say something like Audacity? [20:06] katsrc, audcity is unecessarily complex for recording audio ,checkout cdrdao , or sound recorder if you don't mind gtk apps [20:08] BluesKaj: thanks [20:21] katsrc: kwave :) [20:22] Peace-: compiling that as we speak, the version in the repo is it using Qt4 with KDE4 support? [20:22] katsrc: compilinh ? [20:22] why [20:22] sudo apt-get install kwave [20:22] :S [20:23] .86 has KDE4 support [20:23] 0.8.6* [20:23] 0.8.5 is in the repos [20:33] Peace-, katsrc , another is the old standby cdrecord [20:36] BluesKaj: is it cli? [20:37] yup [20:37] it's installed by default [20:41] hi, I just activated the ppa backports to get the new KDE packages. Now every time I open a video file over SMB:// using VLC, KDE first copies the whole file to /tmp. This is not neccesary because VLC can stream over SMB. Is there a way to change this behaviour? === sqwertle is now known as buov === ruben is now known as Guest91521 [21:14] impedes flash of player. prompt as to correct === gigi is now known as Guest99523 [21:22] musica italiana [21:25] hi [21:25] is kde 4.6.2 availble ? [21:27] gribouille: not yet, but soon [21:27] tsimpson, when ? [21:27] once the packages are made [21:27] tsimpson, do you mean compiled ? [21:28] created and compiled and published [21:28] somebody can help me?) [21:29] tsimpson, it's just a bugfix release, so it must be possible to reuse the previous packages [21:29] gribouille: short answer: no [21:29] gomiboy, why ? [21:29] gribouille: mostly, but not completely in all cases [21:29] ooki2day: Your flash player is not working? [21:30] hi is working, but lags [21:31] ooki2day: Are you using gnash or the adobe one? === Muzer is now known as MuzerAway [21:31] adobe [21:32] what is gnash? [21:32] ooki2day: It is the open source flash player. It is the one which is usually having problems, and not the adobe one. [21:32] ooki2day, a free flash player [21:33] thx, i try to use it) [21:34] does sif muna protect against wucad mu miscasts? [21:34] gnash will work with adobe? [21:35] oops, sorry. wrong channel [21:35] or need delete adobe previosly? [21:36] ooki2day: if you have problems with adobe, you will have more problems with gnash [21:36] why? === MuzerAway is now known as Muzer [21:37] ooki2day: it's slower and doesn't work at all with some flash out there [21:38] I if want to back up my system, whic system directories should I back up ? [21:39] thx. now I will look [21:41] gribouille: the word "system" says it all... every :P (excep /sys /proc) [21:42] gribouille: Pretty much everything except /dev /proc /sys /tmp /var/cache and anything mounted under /mnt or /media [21:46] ok, thanks [22:00] tsimpson: 4.6.2 is now available [22:25] where can i change desktop effects? [22:30] feeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee [22:30] аууууууууууууу [22:31] !ua [22:31] Hm [22:33] народ когда Либру стваиш опен надо полюбому сносить? [22:33] !ru [22:33] Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке / Pozhalujsta posetite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke [22:37] tell me what is best OpenOffice or Libra Office [22:37] doctoras: повтори вопрос понятнее) [22:38] на каком языке? [22:39] dactoras: понял уже. ты хочешь поставить либре офис? [22:39] да [22:39] не обязательно сносить опен офис [22:39] у меня просто опень офис 3,2 и до 3,3 синоптик невидет обновления [22:40] !english [22:40] The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList [22:40] doctoras: can you undersефтв english? [22:40] doctoras and ooki2day_ Please visit #ubuntu-ru for Russian [22:41] doctoras: *understand [22:42] is there a KDE kdm theme that supports a user name seleciton list? the default kubuntu is just plain windows95-style with user name and password prompt [22:44] hello [22:44] hi [22:44] can anone please tell me what's the default kubunt theme? thanks === Wicet2 is now known as Wicet [22:45] you want know theme name? [22:45] yes, please [22:46] kde or gnome? [22:47] both [22:47] you use kde or gnome? [22:48] kde [22:48] I use both :) [22:48] seriously [22:49] kde default style is oxygen' [22:49] colors oxygen too [22:50] need to create a Russian channel Kubuntu [22:51] doctoras: yes)i will answer in private [22:51] I have created for our private channel [22:53] need to go [22:53] thank you very much for your help, ooki2day_ [22:53] goodbye [22:54] TLF: bye) === massimo is now known as Guest72766 [23:10] should I ask natty upgrade issues with quassel-core here? [23:11] I'm missing quassel, and have dropped back to konversation [23:12] thumper: I experienced problems with it constantly crashing, yes. Am now using one from git and put it in /usr/local/bin instead of the system /usr/bin where the packaged one resides === Muzer is now known as MuzerAway [23:32] When I disconnect an external display from my laptop, even if i disable the second display i can still drag windows to it or existing windows still get stuck on it, where i can't even see. [23:32] Is there something I can do about this? [23:34] Riddell: ping [23:35] hi thumper [23:35] Riddell: who knows about quassel packaging? [23:35] Riddell: I upgraded to natty last night an chasing quassel issues [23:35] looking in the log file it seems that as the new packages were being installed, quassel was filaing to store messages [23:36] and quassel-core failed to install fully [23:36] I think scottK usually packages it [23:36] what tz is scottK in? [23:36] US [23:37] thanks [23:37] do you happen to know if quassel has its own channel? [23:38] an IRC client without its own channel would seem a curious thing :) [23:38] I expect it's #quassel [23:38] yup [23:38] I just went there :) === mren is now known as mren|off [23:57] when I can douwnload upgrades for ubuntu natty from launchpad.net?