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| robbiew | o/ | 16:00 |
| mvo | hello | 16:00 |
| cjwatson | o/ | 16:00 |
| robbiew | #startmeeting | 16:00 |
| MootBot | Meeting started at 10:00. The chair is robbiew. | 16:00 |
| MootBot | Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] | 16:00 |
| doko | hi | 16:00 |
| jhunt_ | hi | 16:00 |
| barry | hi | 16:00 |
| stgraber | hi | 16:01 |
| robbiew | welcome stgraber :) | 16:01 |
| stgraber | thanks! | 16:01 |
| robbiew | [TOPIC] Lightning Round | 16:01 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Lightning Round | 16:01 |
| ev | hi | 16:01 |
| robbiew | stgraber? ...just kidding | 16:01 |
| robbiew | mvo? | 16:01 |
| mvo | yeah | 16:02 |
| mvo | its a bit long today | 16:02 |
| mvo | beta1: App-install-data-commercial update, apt-ddtp update, upgrade testing | 16:02 |
| mvo | Apt-clone: add apt-clone info, add apt::architecture to the archive, add missing recommend on dpkg-repack, call fakeroot the right way, fix crash in the installer (thanks ev!), cleanup in the state file writing, more tests | 16:02 |
| mvo | Aptdaemon: push lp:~mvo/aptdaemon/fix-724735 | 16:02 |
| mvo | Auto-upgrade-tester: deploy python-import post-upgrade fix, review auto-upgrade-tester results | 16:02 |
| mvo | Debdelta: discuss index and SoC with debdelta upstream | 16:02 |
| mvo | piston-mini-client: add fix for the "filename too long" bug with ecryptfs (lp:~mvo/piston-mini-client/fix-ioerror-bug-on-cryptfs/) | 16:02 |
| mvo | Python-apt: merge fix from bary lp:~barry/ubuntu/natty/python-apt/bug-711225 in | 16:02 |
| mvo | to ubuntu and debian branches (thanks! that fix was great work) | 16:02 |
| mvo | Sessioninstaller: fix #713984, merge lp:~gilir/sessioninstaller/defer-migration/+merge/46346 and upload new version | 16:02 |
| mvo | Software-cener: switch rnr-server from staging -> production and upload new version (yeah!), branch merges (nice work from gary, kiwinote, stgraber, mmcg069!), cleanup cruft from tests, work on by-something fixes (##708372), misc fixes | 16:02 |
| mvo | Squid-deb-proxy: maverick sru to fix missing extras.ubuntu.com | 16:02 |
| mvo | Update-manager: add workaroudn for #745396, backport fixes for #744990 and push SRU, work on EOL handling (#671016), fixes in the cdrom upgrade code, add native python ed implementation for the "patch critical stuff before upgrade" feature (strange as it sounds, a minimal server may not have ed/patch installed) | 16:02 |
| mvo | Update-notifier: merge patch from till (#734822) (with minior modifications) | 16:02 |
| mvo | upgrades: fix bind9 .dpkg-dist leftover, forward fix to debian, some manual testing | 16:02 |
| ev | mvo: did you happen to see my merge proposal? | 16:03 |
| mvo | ev: no, let me have a look now | 16:03 |
| ev | thanks! | 16:03 |
| mvo | hrm, hrm, LP did not send me a mail about it it seems | 16:04 |
| ev | weird, I've specifically marked you as a reviewer | 16:04 |
| mvo | ev: looks great from first glance | 16:05 |
| mvo | ev: i have a more detailed look after the meeting | 16:05 |
| ev | cool, thanks | 16:05 |
| robbiew | thnx mvo | 16:06 |
| robbiew | and with that exchange...ev? | 16:06 |
| ev | swing back around? | 16:06 |
| ev | sorry, got caught in a privmsg | 16:06 |
| robbiew | uh huh | 16:06 |
| robbiew | maybe I should schedule this meeting every week...at the same time...and send invites | 16:07 |
| robbiew | oh wait | 16:07 |
| robbiew | lol | 16:07 |
| robbiew | jhunt_: ? | 16:07 |
| jhunt_ | Upstart Cookbook updates. Finally resolved the chroot session bug in | 16:07 |
| jhunt_ | Upstart (final testing in progress...). Updated Oneiric planning | 16:07 |
| jhunt_ | page with Upstart+generic ideas. | 16:07 |
| jhunt_ | EOT | 16:07 |
| ev | robbiew: pish tosh | 16:07 |
| robbiew | jhunt_: thnx | 16:08 |
| robbiew | barry? | 16:08 |
| barry | bug 747590 (virtualenv stops working after natty upgrade); bug 747225 (albatross ftbfs); bug 150667 (update-manager); patch piloted; natty upgrade; gsoc 2011 proposals; python issues: 11677 (test performance on ecryptfs), 11715 (build from source on multiarch), pep 396 (module version numbers). done. | 16:08 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 747590 in python-defaults (Ubuntu) "After upgrading to narwal virtualenv has ceased to work" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/747590 | 16:08 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 747225 in albatross (Ubuntu) "ftbfs with python2.7" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/747225 | 16:08 |
| ubottu | Error: Launchpad bug 150667 could not be found | 16:08 |
| barry | hmm, i guess 150667 isn't the right bug number ;) | 16:09 |
| robbiew | lol | 16:09 |
| robbiew | thnx barry | 16:10 |
| robbiew | psurbhi: ? | 16:10 |
| psurbhi | *) wrote and modified some scripts to create a fstab for initramfs and overwrite it with user requested options. also added small scripts for invoking local/nfs scripts as jobs. | 16:10 |
| psurbhi | *) Finally, arranged all the scripts in the initramfs-tools package. Compiled the first event based initramfs-tools package: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~csurbhi/initramfs-tools/event-driven.rough. This is really a rough version as the name says - tested on mdadm,lvm configuration on qemu. | 16:10 |
| psurbhi | *) wrote dbus communication program for cryptsetup scripts to indicate to stop the mountall timer | 16:10 |
| psurbhi | *) worked on bug 665185 | 16:10 |
| psurbhi | *) writing a document explaining the current initramfs scripts | 16:10 |
| psurbhi | (done) | 16:10 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 665185 in sysvinit (Ubuntu Lucid) "/etc/init.d/sendsigs fails to kill some processes" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/665185 | 16:10 |
| robbiew | psurbhi: nice! thnx | 16:11 |
| robbiew | doko? | 16:11 |
| doko | finally test rebuild crawling ... see http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~wgrant/rebuild-ftbfs-test/test-rebuild-20110329-natty.html | 16:11 |
| doko | maybe revert ld --no-add-needed for the release? | 16:12 |
| doko | "final" openjdk and toolchain uploads | 16:12 |
| doko | preparing gcc-4.6 test rebuild | 16:12 |
| doko | done | 16:12 |
| robbiew | thx doko | 16:13 |
| robbiew | cjwatson: ? | 16:13 |
| cjwatson | Done: | 16:13 |
| cjwatson | - Patch pilot afternoon (Tuesday). | 16:13 |
| cjwatson | - Spent nearly all the rest of the time doing very very slow bootloader debugging of one kind or another, and I'm now about twice as familiar with weird bits of gdb as I was last week. I've fixed several serious Wubi bugs (bug 742967, bug 610898 on its way, and others), which should be SRUable; and determined that bug 747090 is actually a kvm bug. | 16:13 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 742967 in grub2 (Ubuntu Maverick) "Wubi grub prompt on install" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/742967 | 16:13 |
| cjwatson | - Fixed one of the outstanding installer keyboard bugs (bug 730576) and a partitioning crash (bug 746408). | 16:13 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 610898 in lupin (Ubuntu Natty) "grub-pc upgrade renders computer unbootable when Wubi is installed to partition other than Windows" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/610898 | 16:13 |
| cjwatson | - Pushed the grub2 multipath SRU a bit further up the hill. | 16:13 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 747090 in qemu-kvm (Ubuntu Natty) "wrong return address sometimes pushed for INT in kvm (not qemu)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/747090 | 16:13 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 730576 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Natty) "wrong encoding in keyboard country and layout lists" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/730576 | 16:13 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 746408 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Natty) ""Erase entire disk..." crashes in CJK install with Korean language" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/746408 | 16:13 |
| cjwatson | To do before beta freeze: | 16:14 |
| cjwatson | - Figure out what's wrong with iSCSI. | 16:14 |
| cjwatson | - Sort out some more installer keyboard bugs. | 16:14 |
| cjwatson | - I don't think I'll have time for much else before beta freeze. Shout if there's something I need to squeeze in. | 16:14 |
| cjwatson | -- | 16:14 |
| robbiew | cjwatson: impressive bug work as usual...thank you sir! | 16:15 |
| robbiew | and now... | 16:15 |
| robbiew | without further adieu... | 16:15 |
| robbiew | ev!!! | 16:15 |
| robbiew | :P | 16:15 |
| ev | done: bug fixes! Spent a fair amount of time on bug 739489.Fixed the import script for the geonames project, reviewing branches from mterry to fix geonames issues. Fixed the wording for the upgrade option after conferring with mpt and cjwatson. Still digging at 746758. Tried to sort out Natty on a new web team hire's MacBook Air, failed miserably. | 16:15 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 739489 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Natty) "upgrade/reinstall option overwrites apt-setup generated sources.list (no extras.ubuntu.com)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/739489 | 16:15 |
| ev | probably more, my lp-fu is failing today | 16:16 |
| ev | (done) | 16:16 |
| robbiew | thnx ev | 16:16 |
| barry | ev: what's the issue w/natty on mba? | 16:16 |
| robbiew | stgraber: anything to report? :) | 16:16 |
| stgraber | Started working in the Foundations team, trying to get used to everything. Fixed udev packaging bug 745011. Fixed FTBFS of libssh (missing latex build-dep). Worked on awstrial/weblive. | 16:16 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 745011 in udev (Ubuntu) ""info: unrecognized option '--convert-db'" on upgrade" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/745011 | 16:16 |
| ev | barry: hangs coming out of rEFIt | 16:16 |
| robbiew | stgraber: that's it?...slacker! | 16:17 |
| robbiew | (j/k) :P | 16:17 |
| stgraber | heh :) | 16:17 |
| robbiew | thnx stgraber | 16:17 |
| mvo | thanks for the udev one! | 16:17 |
| ev | not sure if it's syslinux or the legacy MBR stuff | 16:17 |
| robbiew | [TOPIC] Natty Bug Fixing | 16:17 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Natty Bug Fixing | 16:17 |
| barry | ev: interesting. perhaps talk more after meeting? i'll do an update on my other mbp as it runs natty natively (seems to work fine these days) | 16:17 |
| ev | barry: yeah, I've tried to reproduce it on mine but I seem to be hitting a different bug (if there's nothing in the legacy MBR, it falls over in a big heap with "no OS found" instead of moving on to the USB key | 16:18 |
| ev | but sure | 16:18 |
| cjwatson | for bugs, I've got these three URLs open in my browser at the moment: | 16:19 |
| cjwatson | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+bugs?field.milestone=33574 (beta-1) | 16:19 |
| cjwatson | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+bugs?field.milestone=38691 (beta-2) | 16:19 |
| cjwatson | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+bugs?field.milestone=33569 (final) | 16:19 |
| robbiew | any OMG Kitten Killers I or anyone else should be aware of? | 16:19 |
| cjwatson | apparently GRUB is still broken on RAID despite my previous efforts, so needs another look (bug 743136) | 16:20 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 743136 in grub2 (Ubuntu Natty) "grub2 fails to install on md0 " [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/743136 | 16:20 |
| cjwatson | anyone distressed about any other ones? | 16:21 |
| ev | I've got lots of bugs I'm distressed about, but they're all being tracked in natty | 16:21 |
| ev | :-P | 16:21 |
| cjwatson | heh | 16:22 |
| ev | 746758 in particular | 16:22 |
| doko | I didn't milestone the build failures yet | 16:22 |
| cjwatson | doko: if you're going to, please do it soon so that we have time before beta freeze | 16:22 |
| doko | cjwatson: will try, once the rebuild is finished (hopefully tomorrow) | 16:23 |
| doko | is there a script to milestone existing reports? | 16:23 |
| doko | i386 rebuild currently at letter s | 16:24 |
| cjwatson | if you can get hold of each bug_task in the API, you can set .milestone on it and then .lp_save() | 16:25 |
| cjwatson | should be fairly easy to do interactively in lp-shell | 16:25 |
| robbiew | okie dokie | 16:27 |
| robbiew | [TOPIC] Oneiric Planning | 16:27 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Oneiric Planning | 16:27 |
| robbiew | I've been tracking the updates to the wiki | 16:27 |
| robbiew | and the emails to ubuntu-devel | 16:27 |
| robbiew | We'll have more inputs from Canonical OEM Partners, Desktop, and Server | 16:28 |
| robbiew | I'll gather all that and organize it | 16:28 |
| robbiew | hopefully have a complete list for review late next week | 16:28 |
| doko | is python3 on that list? | 16:29 |
| robbiew | I dunno...but feel free to put it there | 16:29 |
| robbiew | it's a wiki ;) | 16:29 |
| robbiew | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FoundationsTeam/OneiricPlanning | 16:29 |
| MootBot | LINK received: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FoundationsTeam/OneiricPlanning | 16:29 |
| doko | barry: ^^^ ;) | 16:29 |
| robbiew | heh | 16:30 |
| robbiew | psurbhi: was in discussion with OEM Server Engineering team, and it looks like there may be a need for some work around multipath I/O | 16:30 |
| barry | just need to repurpose https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection-foundations-n-python-versions to oneiric. will do | 16:30 |
| robbiew | we can talk about it next week | 16:31 |
| robbiew | e.g. SAN Storage support | 16:31 |
| robbiew | barry: yeah, I think I have that listed | 16:31 |
| robbiew | [TOPIC] AOB/GoodNews | 16:31 |
| MootBot | New Topic: AOB/GoodNews | 16:31 |
| robbiew | in the AOB category...peer reviews due this week | 16:31 |
| robbiew | by Friday..though I suspect by Sunday works too | 16:32 |
| cjwatson | argh | 16:32 |
| psurbhi | robbiew, ack | 16:32 |
| robbiew | wow..guess that AOB bummed folks out | 16:33 |
| mvo | synaptic got (very) basic multiarch support, its quite fun. but sometimes the resolver acts really fun, so careful | 16:33 |
| ev | heh | 16:33 |
| robbiew | Good News -> stgraber is now part of Canonical's Foundations team! | 16:33 |
| ev | yay | 16:33 |
| barry | yay! | 16:33 |
| psurbhi | yay! :) | 16:33 |
| mvo | !!! | 16:33 |
| stgraber | :) | 16:34 |
| jhunt_ | welcome! | 16:34 |
| stgraber | thanks jhunt_ | 16:34 |
| robbiew | #endmeeting | 16:35 |
| MootBot | Meeting finished at 10:35. | 16:35 |
| cjwatson | welcome, indeed :-) | 16:35 |
| robbiew | thnx all | 16:35 |
| jhunt_ | cheers | 16:35 |
| mvo | thanks | 16:35 |
| stgraber | thanks | 16:36 |
| barry | thanks! | 16:36 |
| ev | thanks | 16:36 |
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| jelmer | anybody here for the udd meeting? | 22:15 |
| jelmer | hi barry | 22:36 |
| barry | hi jelmer | 22:37 |
| ajmitch | jelmer: sorry, was here, got distracted by work | 22:37 |
| barry | i think we're meeting in 23 minutes? | 22:37 |
| jelmer | ah | 22:37 |
| barry | at least, that's what my calendar is telling me, but who knows with all the dst insanity this time of year ;) | 22:37 |
| jelmer | isn't it 21:37 UTC? | 22:37 |
| jelmer | this whole daylight savings thing is messing with my mind | 22:38 |
| * ajmitch doesn't know, DST just finished here in the weekend | 22:39 | |
| barry | yowsa. natty freak out | 22:41 |
| barry | tap, tap, tap, can you hear me? :) | 22:41 |
| ScottK | barry: You're supposed to be fixing boost ... | 22:42 |
| ajmitch | barry: yes, you're still alive | 22:42 |
| barry | ScottK: heh | 22:42 |
| ScottK | ajmitch: Right. He didn't actually fix it yet. | 22:42 |
| * ajmitch shudders at the mention of boost | 22:43 | |
| barry | poolie's not here yet, so hopefully we didn't miss him | 22:43 |
| barry | natty just freaked out on me a bit | 22:43 |
| jelmer | no, he hasn't been here in the last couple of hours | 22:43 |
| barry | it is pretty early for him tho. directory says 0744 | 22:44 |
| jelmer | I think the meeting was always at 8 AM for him | 22:44 |
| jelmer | for me it's now two hours later than last time | 22:45 |
| barry | jelmer: me too | 22:45 |
| barry | jelmer: but it's still doable for me. it's getting pretty late for you tho isn't it? | 22:45 |
| barry | we'll do a dst sanity check today | 22:46 |
| jelmer | barry: it's a quarter to midnight, but I live pretty late anyway (I start work at 10) | 22:47 |
| barry | stupid rotating earth | 22:47 |
| barry | well, let's get started. perhaps poolie will show up | 23:00 |
| barry | #startmeeting | 23:00 |
| MootBot | Meeting started at 17:00. The chair is barry. | 23:00 |
| MootBot | Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] | 23:00 |
| barry | hello everyone and welcome to this week's udd steering meeting | 23:01 |
| barry | who's here today? | 23:01 |
| jelmer | hi barry | 23:01 |
| * slangasek waves | 23:01 | |
| barry | hi jelmer, slangasek | 23:02 |
| ScottK | ~ | 23:02 |
| jelmer | hi poolie | 23:02 |
| barry | hi ScottK, hi poolie | 23:02 |
| jelmer | hi Scott | 23:02 |
| poolie | hello all | 23:02 |
| barry | [TOPIC] agenda | 23:02 |
| MootBot | New Topic: agenda | 23:02 |
| barry | [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DistributedDevelopment/20110406 | 23:02 |
| MootBot | LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DistributedDevelopment/20110406 | 23:02 |
| barry | [TOPIC] * DST resync | 23:03 |
| barry | 23:03 | |
| MootBot | New Topic: * DST resync | 23:03 |
| barry | i know the usa went through dst and i think euro too. the meetings are two hours later for jelmer and i. not a problem for me, but it's late for jelmer. still i think it's 8am for poolie so this may be the best we can do | 23:04 |
| barry | i just wanted to make sure this time still works for everyone | 23:04 |
| poolie | we could try the other way around in my evenings | 23:04 |
| jelmer | this works for me, although I know jam goes to bed earlier and it would be nice if he could attend | 23:04 |
| * poolie look | 23:04 | |
| poolie | http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2011&month=4&day=7&hour=11&min=0&sec=0&p1=240&p2=16&p3=263 | 23:05 |
| MootBot | LINK received: http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2011&month=4&day=7&hour=11&min=0&sec=0&p1=240&p2=16&p3=263 | 23:05 |
| barry | jelmer: indeed, it would | 23:05 |
| poolie | my 9pm is 7am for barry, i think | 23:05 |
| poolie | and 1pm for .nl | 23:05 |
| poolie | barry, is james_w west of you? and scottk, where are you? | 23:06 |
| barry | i could do that. i get up at 6am to get my son to school anyway and he leaves for the bus at 6:55. i might only be a minute or so late if the bus is late | 23:06 |
| ScottK | It's 6PM here | 23:06 |
| ScottK | (now) | 23:06 |
| ScottK | Whatever sucks for barry sucks for me too. | 23:06 |
| barry | james_w is north of me, so same timezone i think | 23:07 |
| barry | ScottK too :) | 23:07 |
| barry | ScottK: could you do 7am? | 23:07 |
| ScottK | I could. I would be unlikely to. | 23:07 |
| poolie | for that matter i could certainly go an hour earlier | 23:07 |
| poolie | which would be 11pm in nl and fr | 23:08 |
| ScottK | I have a kid that leaves for school at 6:40, but I usually crash again after she's gone. | 23:08 |
| poolie | and 5pm us/eastern | 23:08 |
| barry | i'd love to have jam join us | 23:08 |
| poolie | ok, let's send mail | 23:08 |
| barry | ScottK: i totally get that :) plus, summer is only 6 weeks away | 23:08 |
| ScottK | 5PM is way better than 7AM for me. | 23:08 |
| poolie | jam does often get back on after his son is asleep | 23:08 |
| barry | poolie: sounds good. i will do that | 23:08 |
| barry | [ACTION] barry to send email about meeting time to mailing list | 23:08 |
| MootBot | ACTION received: barry to send email about meeting time to mailing list | 23:08 |
| barry | [TOPIC] action items | 23:09 |
| MootBot | New Topic: action items | 23:09 |
| barry | * poolie to meet with robbiew re lep | 23:09 |
| barry | 23:09 | |
| poolie | cancelled, because the lep has been pushed back a bit, until it can be scheduled | 23:09 |
| barry | poolie: okay, i'll take this off the list | 23:10 |
| barry | * jam to propose/report plan for quilt imports '''(done?)''' | 23:10 |
| barry | 23:10 | |
| barry | i traded some email w/jam about this, he'd like to keep it on the list | 23:10 |
| barry | we'll do that at least until he chimes in in person | 23:10 |
| barry | * poolie talk to stakeholders about bfbip scheduling | 23:11 |
| barry | 23:11 | |
| poolie | done, and we decided it's not going to push in front of other things | 23:11 |
| poolie | so, the bzr team will continue with package imports, speed, and bugs | 23:11 |
| barry | poolie: thanks. i'll take this off the list. | 23:11 |
| poolie | and then we'll reconsider that lep when the lp team has some capacity free or when package branches are done | 23:12 |
| poolie | thanks | 23:12 |
| barry | +1 | 23:12 |
| barry | i might have messed up the agenda, so i'll just paste the next two together | 23:12 |
| barry | * poolie to prepare udd sessions for uds-o | 23:12 |
| barry | * jelmer and barry to prepare udd sessions for uds-o | 23:12 |
| barry | 23:12 | |
| barry | jelmer and i did talk about it, and jelmer was going to submit the blueprints. don't remember if there were separate sessions poolie was going to submit | 23:13 |
| poolie | i delegated to jelmer | 23:13 |
| poolie | is it all ok | 23:13 |
| jelmer | I created the blueprints for the sessions | 23:13 |
| barry | jelmer: you rock! | 23:13 |
| barry | * poolie to talk to LOSAs about getting new bzrs rolled out faster | 23:13 |
| barry | 23:13 | |
| jelmer | barry: this is specifically about rolling out to Launchpad / buildds ? | 23:14 |
| poolie | hm, i did talk, but i think i need to also talk to charlies to make sure it happens | 23:14 |
| poolie | to jubany | 23:14 |
| poolie | let's update the item to clarify it's jubany, and then keep it | 23:15 |
| barry | poolie: you got it | 23:15 |
| poolie | jelmer, separately probably we should propose bzr updates into launchpad | 23:15 |
| poolie | or have a way of deciding when to kick that off | 23:15 |
| barry | is there an action item there? | 23:15 |
| jelmer | poolie: Yeah, I was thinking the same thing | 23:15 |
| ray24 | Hey guys what's up | 23:15 |
| jelmer | poolie: I'll need to propose updates for bzr-hg, bzr-git and bzr-svn running on lp anyway so perhaps I should have a look at getting the new bzr deployed at the same time. | 23:16 |
| poolie | o/ ray24, meeting about https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DistributedDevelopment/20110406 | 23:16 |
| barry | ray24: hi. we're having a meeting on ubuntu distributed development | 23:16 |
| poolie | that would be good | 23:16 |
| poolie | maybe a bug saying "we should upgrade so we get fixes for x, y,z" would help track it | 23:16 |
| poolie | does not need to be an exhaustive list | 23:16 |
| poolie | you could send a very brief rfc about that to lp-dev | 23:16 |
| barry | jelmer: will the bzr-hg update allow me to mirror cpython's hg repo on lp? | 23:17 |
| jelmer | barry: it will fix a lot of the existing hg imports, not sure about the cpython one | 23:18 |
| barry | cool. we'll find out! | 23:19 |
| barry | i have to admit, hg drives me nuts :) | 23:19 |
| barry | 23:19 | |
| barry | * barry to check with dholbach about publishing of upg with udd docs, and update the udd wiki pages | 23:19 |
| barry | i talked with daniel, and he's still waiting for isd to provide a web hostname. i'm going to move this off the action items and will provide status update when it's available | 23:20 |
| jelmer | what's upg? | 23:20 |
| barry | ubuntu packaging guide | 23:20 |
| barry | moving all the docs into restructured text | 23:20 |
| barry | as soon as that's published, i'm going to take an axe to the udd wiki pages and point them there | 23:21 |
| barry | a few weeks ago, they merged my branch which basically took all the current udd wiki pages and worked them into the guide | 23:21 |
| poolie | wow, that's great | 23:21 |
| poolie | someone was asking about the two doc sets just this week | 23:22 |
| barry | i think it'll really help developers. udd will be the preferred path in the guide | 23:22 |
| barry | that's it for action items, unless anybody has any other comments | 23:23 |
| barry | [TOPIC] package importer progress | 23:23 |
| MootBot | New Topic: package importer progress | 23:23 |
| barry | [LINK] http://package-import.ubuntu.com/status/ | 23:23 |
| MootBot | LINK received: http://package-import.ubuntu.com/status/ | 23:23 |
| poolie | exactly | 23:23 |
| poolie | having a bad day today in particular, apparently | 23:23 |
| barry | wow. 9905 outstanding jobs?! | 23:23 |
| slangasek | hmm, another spike in import failures too | 23:24 |
| barry | any idea what's going on there? | 23:24 |
| poolie | maybe an lp outage? | 23:24 |
| barry | could be i guess. the failure rate has been pretty steady latel | 23:25 |
| barry | poolie, jelmer any status on the import failures? | 23:26 |
| poolie | just checking with lp ops | 23:26 |
| poolie | they had an upgrade yesterday | 23:27 |
| poolie | i'll look in to it later | 23:27 |
| poolie | aside from that, the trend has been generally downwards | 23:27 |
| barry | poolie: thanks. and yep, it's great to see | 23:27 |
| barry | [TOPIC] * Bugs of interest: | 23:28 |
| MootBot | New Topic: * Bugs of interest: | 23:28 |
| barry | [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~mbp/kanban/canonical-bazaar-kanban.html | 23:28 |
| MootBot | LINK received: http://people.canonical.com/~mbp/kanban/canonical-bazaar-kanban.html | 23:28 |
| poolie | things have been moving at a pretty good rate | 23:29 |
| barry | indeed! almost 200 bugs in needs release or released | 23:29 |
| poolie | yes | 23:29 |
| barry | really really fantastic | 23:29 |
| poolie | and our inprogress queue is now more reasonable | 23:29 |
| poolie | the team are really in flow, istm | 23:30 |
| barry | man, you guys really rock | 23:30 |
| barry | poolie, jelmer any bugs in particular you want to mention? | 23:30 |
| poolie | oh | 23:32 |
| poolie | you might have seen on linaro-dev, john has done some good work on performance on large trees | 23:32 |
| poolie | lp connection time should also be getting faster in several aspects | 23:32 |
| barry | i missed that, but yay! | 23:33 |
| poolie | loggerhead too should be getting better soon | 23:33 |
| poolie | jelmer, how about you? | 23:33 |
| jelmer | Andrew S-B got the new bzr-builddeb synced to natty, which fixes a lot of bugs and requires less configuration etc. in general | 23:33 |
| poolie | are you planning to do a new release of bzr-* to move those bugs to released? | 23:33 |
| jelmer | please try it out, and report bugs if you find any :) | 23:33 |
| jelmer | poolie: Yeah, that's on my todo list; I have one more bzr-svn and one more bzr-hg bug I'd like to fix before doing so | 23:34 |
| barry | jelmer: anything in particular i should look for with bzr bd? | 23:34 |
| jelmer | barry: merge-upstream in particular should now be easier to use, e.g. it can use debian/watch to find and download the upstream tarball | 23:36 |
| barry | \o/ | 23:36 |
| slangasek | jelmer: was the bzr bd orig.tar.bz2 issue that hit us in samba fixed? | 23:36 |
| jelmer | slangasek: It's in review | 23:37 |
| slangasek | ok | 23:37 |
| slangasek | will that cause importer problems if deployed? | 23:38 |
| slangasek | (i.e., if the current bd is deployed without this fix) | 23:38 |
| jelmer | slangasek: it shouldn't, it's in a code path not exercised by the importer AFAIK | 23:39 |
| jelmer | we should probably double check or wait before deploying a new bzr-builddeb on the importer though | 23:39 |
| barry | [TOPIC] * Any other business? | 23:40 |
| MootBot | New Topic: * Any other business? | 23:40 |
| barry | anything else for today? | 23:40 |
| poolie | oh, one | 23:41 |
| poolie | riddell will be doing a rotation to bzr starting at uds | 23:41 |
| jelmer | \o/ | 23:41 |
| barry | nice! | 23:41 |
| poolie | i think that will be fun to work with him and he'll bring some good platform experience and perspective | 23:41 |
| poolie | it's agreed and wending through the hr formalities now | 23:41 |
| Riddell | I look forward to working with you all | 23:42 |
| Riddell | I hope I can live up to the challenge | 23:42 |
| poolie | oh, hi | 23:43 |
| poolie | :) | 23:43 |
| barry | great! i think we'll end on that positive note | 23:43 |
| barry | #endmeeting | 23:44 |
| MootBot | Meeting finished at 17:43. | 23:44 |
| barry | thank you everyone | 23:44 |
| jelmer | thanks Barry :) | 23:44 |
| poolie | me too, thanks everyone, | 23:46 |
| poolie | and thanks riddell :) | 23:46 |
| slangasek | thanks :) | 23:48 |
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