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| c2tarun | I was building kde4libs and I got this error http://pastebin.com/kGidy8LF, when I looked I found that on the location instead of backend there is folder name helper, file inside helper is kauth_helper_plugin.so can anyone please help :/ | 03:18 |
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| nigelb | stgraber: congrats :) | 05:55 |
| stgraber | nigelb: thanks :) | 05:59 |
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| dholbach | good morning | 08:44 |
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| Daviey | . | 10:22 |
| soren | ! | 10:35 |
| iulian | ~ | 10:40 |
| Kano | hi, why has natty fully outdated va-drivers? | 10:55 |
| Kano | like: vdpau-va-driver 0.6.3 -> deb exp 0.7.2-1 or xvba-va-driver 0.7.7 -> deb wheezy 0.7.8? | 10:56 |
| Kano | for a new release it is old... | 10:56 |
| Kano | vdpau 26-Feb-2011, xvba 26-Feb-2011 | 10:57 |
| Rhonda | Because noone did a syncrequest for that | 11:04 |
| Rhonda | And syncing from experimental isn't done automatically neither, someone needs to specificly request that. | 11:04 |
| Kano | seems that u users dont care about it, well i dont use u ;) | 11:04 |
| Kano | i just see the errors | 11:04 |
| Rhonda | What errors? | 11:05 |
| Kano | no hybrid mode, outdated software | 11:06 |
| Rhonda | Packaged software is always outdated by definition. | 11:06 |
| Rhonda | At some point the automatic import has to get stopped to be able to stabilize the thing. | 11:06 |
| Kano | whats the option to boot into text mode... | 11:07 |
| Kano | maybe single mode works | 11:07 |
| directhex | debian import freeze was at the start of january, wasn't it? | 11:07 |
| Rhonda | And from that point on someone (which would include e.g. you?) has to specificly request an update if they see the need for it. | 11:07 |
| Kano | and why has single mode no effect? how to boot live into text mode? | 11:10 |
| iulian | directhex: Yes, it was. | 11:11 |
| Rhonda | Kano: Actually this is no support channel for that kind of questions. Please be adviced to use #ubuntu for such questions. | 11:54 |
| Kano | Rhonda: xvba-va-driver is broken too, it depends on a not existing fglrx driver | 12:01 |
| Kano | you can use the time to update package + depend | 12:02 |
| Kano | Rhonda: it is logical that this does not work with an automated import becasue your driver package is not called fglrx-driver | 12:25 |
| Rhonda | Kano: The package is in multiverse. I guess there should be some sort of description available somewhere how to generate the fglrx-driver package. That can't be put into the pool because of upstream licensing. Still, these aren't questions for here, please speak about them in #ubuntu | 12:43 |
| Kano | Rhonda: the package is just called fglrx | 12:45 |
| Kano | fglrx-driver is the debian name | 12:45 |
| Kano | but somehow your vlc does not work with it | 12:46 |
| Kano | i dont get why u has lots of packages but all i test are broken | 12:47 |
| Rhonda | Feel invited to write bugreports about these issues. | 12:47 |
| soren | Have you filed bugs about this? | 12:47 |
| Kano | soren: i wait till the bug is fixed i reported >1 y ago | 12:48 |
| Kano | until then i do not report bugs | 12:48 |
| soren | Kano: Then that's why. | 12:48 |
| soren | Then you don't get to complain. | 12:48 |
| Kano | man, i dont use u, i test it from time to time to optimize my scripts | 12:49 |
| Rhonda | Kano: If you don't report the issues it's hard to know whether it's known and someone being able to take care of it. | 12:49 |
| soren | Kano: If this is how productive you're going to be about it, don't bother. | 12:49 |
| Kano | soren: for example i reported missing hybrid mode > 1 y ago | 12:49 |
| Kano | soren: the iso images are not hybrid just because of a missing isohybrid call | 12:50 |
| Kano | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-cdimage/+bug/524803 | 12:51 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 524803 in Ubuntu CD Images "isolinux hybrid mode should be used - all other major distributions do so since last year" [Undecided,New] | 12:51 |
| Kano | do you see how long this bug exists | 12:51 |
| Kano | nothing fixed | 12:51 |
| Kano | why should i report bugs when nobody cares about em? | 12:51 |
| Rhonda | Isn't there some limitation with respect to certain hardware with hybird? | 12:51 |
| soren | Kano: If noone cares, why do you bother complaining on IRC? Why would we care more about it here? | 12:52 |
| Rhonda | Because actually it's different packages and different people tracking bugs for them? | 12:52 |
| Kano | i do not intent to use launchpad for bugs anmore | 12:52 |
| soren | I hardly think Launchpad is the problem. And IRC is a *dreadful* bug tracker. | 12:52 |
| Kano | too long response time, no fix | 12:53 |
| Rhonda | Right. Because exaggerating from a single bugreport to the complete system is definitely proving a point. | 12:54 |
| Kano | thats not the only bug i reported | 12:54 |
| Kano | kernel patches i wanted to get removed took >1 year too | 12:54 |
| Kano | thats stupid response time | 12:54 |
| soren | You're (as always) being unreasonable. | 12:55 |
| soren | I'm sure you're talking about the fakeraid sort of kernel patches, right? | 12:55 |
| soren | Bah, I can't be bothered wasting more time explaining this. *again*. | 12:55 |
| Rhonda | Kano: Because it might look like a simple thing to do for you, it might have deep impact on others, especially in central components. | 12:56 |
| Kano | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/380138 | 12:56 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 380138 in linux (Ubuntu) "Do NOT disable HPA by default -> leads to data loss" [Medium,Fix released] | 12:56 |
| soren | Right, that on.e | 12:56 |
| Kano | do yo see how long that bug was in the system | 12:56 |
| Kano | 1 year 7 month | 12:57 |
| soren | You're being ridiculous. | 12:58 |
| Kano | no, i dont need a bug tracker when fixes take >1 y | 12:58 |
| soren | It wasn't just a matter of flicking a switch. There are upgrade scenarios to be considered. | 12:58 |
| soren | How do you spell /ignore again? | 12:59 |
| Kano | that kernel patch had much more bad impact than good | 12:59 |
| soren | Oh, right, here it is: | 12:59 |
| soren | Ah. | 12:59 |
| Kano | i know ppl which hds with hpa | 13:00 |
| Kano | most of em have been to stupid to set the jumpers correctly but used em mirror inverted | 13:00 |
| Kano | the others have got gigabyte boards. if you dont use raid thats maybe not that critical, but if you do, your raid will fail on soft reboot - you can not access it without dmraid on your live image anyway | 13:01 |
| Kano | basically it is impossible to recommand anybody to use natty when you want to use xvba video accelleration. it just does not work | 13:34 |
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| shein | Hello, I'd like to be contributing but I am a little confused on the process. Could I, for example, begin my following the package update recipe on some of the Debian RC bug fixes found here? http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/bugs/rcbugs/ | 17:53 |
| lfaraone | shein: well, if they can be synced, then just file a sync request, otherwise merge the packages. | 17:55 |
| micahg | shein: keep in mind we're past feature freeze, so anything that's not bug fixes will need a freeze exception https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess | 17:56 |
| lfaraone | micahg: if its on the rcbugs list they don't need FFes though :) | 17:56 |
| micahg | lfaraone: not true | 17:56 |
| micahg | lfaraone: the fix can be cherry picked sometimes | 17:57 |
| lfaraone | micahg: I mean, the rcbugs themsleves do not need FFes, if there are other non-rcfixes, then sure. | 17:57 |
| micahg | lfaraone: right, but someone doing new version merge/syncing should know about the freeze :) | 17:58 |
| * bcurtiswx sees lfaraone is still away :P | 17:59 | |
| lfaraone | barry: sshhh | 17:59 |
| lfaraone | * bcurtiswx | 17:59 |
| lfaraone | barry: oops. | 17:59 |
| bcurtiswx | tab complete fail, nice | 17:59 |
| lfaraone | bcurtiswx: today just isn't my day | 17:59 |
| bcurtiswx | as per -us-dc i can't say the same myself (shh) | 18:00 |
| lfaraone | hah. I didn't apply for sponsorship this year, I probably can't do UDS. | 18:01 |
| shein | lfaraone: So if the ubuntu version of a package does not have the word ubuntu in it then it can be simply synced? Is this something worth doing? | 18:09 |
| maco | yes it can | 18:09 |
| maco | and yes it is, though it depends where we are in the release cycle whether it's a good idea | 18:10 |
| lfaraone | shein: correct. if we're in feature freeze, we can't include packages with new features unless a Feature Freeze exception is filed, so if a rcfix sync would include new features, its best to cherry-pick the fix instead. | 18:11 |
| micahg | lfaraone: well, depending on the feature/package, a sync could still be allowed, you can request one with -e passed to requestsync | 18:17 |
| shein | So seeing as natty is past feature freeze, is there less to do in terms of MOTU? How can I contribute currently? | 18:27 |
| micahg | shein: FTBFS fixes or rcbugs are good | 18:28 |
| micahg | shein: here's a list of recent rebuild failures: http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~wgrant/rebuild-ftbfs-test/test-rebuild-20110329-natty.html | 18:28 |
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