| iheartubuntu | thanx | 00:04 |
|---|---|---|
| iheartubuntu | i will have to pick some up | 00:04 |
| iheartubuntu | barely making it today | 00:04 |
| ryaxnb | hello | 04:04 |
| ryaxnb | using linux is so fun | 04:04 |
| ryaxnb | using linux is california is funner :) | 04:04 |
| sn9 | especially ubuntu | 04:06 |
| MarkDude | Well even on a spaceship using Linux should be fun | 04:14 |
| sn9 | especially ubuntu | 04:14 |
| MarkDude | Dont forget Puppy Linux- it barks when you start it up | 04:15 |
| akk | Anywhere you need to use a computer. | 04:15 |
| MarkDude | That is fun, IMO | 04:15 |
| MarkDude | Ruff ruff. | 04:15 |
| kevin9286049 | weeeeeee | 04:15 |
| * MarkDude is wondering if the person from Hawaii ever came back - my machine died- so I have no log of WHERE I was supposed to send them some SWAG | 04:18 | |
| sn9 | facepalm | 04:18 |
| kevin9286049 | a Hawaiian? i talked to a Hawaiian at SCaLE wearing a superman shirt | 04:26 |
| kevin9286049 | btw MarkDude how are you? | 04:26 |
| kevin9286049 | i asked him if he was Hawaiian and he said "yeah". then i said "i like your t-shirt" and he said "I *feel* like Superman" and i said "coooool." | 04:28 |
| akk | MarkDude: So is Fedora really naming their release Beefy Miracle? Tell me it's a late april fool's joke. | 04:28 |
| sn9 | i think it's still being decided | 04:29 |
| MarkDude | grantbow, I cant make it tomorrow, | 05:39 |
| MarkDude | akk, no it is very likely the name | 05:39 |
| akk | ick | 05:39 |
| MarkDude | voting is happening now | 05:39 |
| akk | And there are people actually voting for it? | 05:40 |
| * MarkDude likes that it REMOVES the #1 thing i hear Fedora folks complain about Ubuntu | 05:40 | |
| MarkDude | the names | 05:40 |
| MarkDude | the whole 2 of the same letter | 05:40 |
| MarkDude | this election removes any superiority Fedora may have felt :) | 05:40 |
| akk | heh | 05:41 |
| MarkDude | Umm, have you seen my profile pic on facebook? | 05:41 |
| * MarkDude has a Beefy Miracle shirt | 05:42 | |
| * akk wades through dozens of "Joe Smith answered 'What's your favorite pickle' with 'Kosher dill'" type entries to find Mark's | 05:43 | |
| akk | So the beefy miracle is a hot dog? Aren't those usually largely pork? | 05:43 |
| akk | I guess this must be an all-beef one. | 05:44 |
| MarkDude | Well, Its more than a beef thing | 05:44 |
| MarkDude | A vegetarian is partially behind the start, mizmo | 05:44 |
| akk | This must be some cultural reference that I'm missing because I'm an old fart. :) | 05:45 |
| MarkDude | http://blogs.fedoraproject.org/wp/fifthpillar/hackergotchis/ | 05:45 |
| akk | (but googling on beefy miracle gets a fedora page as its first hit, so it's not much of a cultural phenom ...) | 05:46 |
| pleia2 | akk: me too, but I can't use age as an excuse :) | 05:46 |
| MarkDude | Well I made a tofu miracle | 05:46 |
| MarkDude | it was an animated gif at first | 05:46 |
| MarkDude | the story behind it was as a generic filler for unbranded Fedora CDs | 05:46 |
| crashsystems | I may never complain about Mark Shuttleworth's release names again. | 05:47 |
| pleia2 | crashsystems: hehe | 05:47 |
| MarkDude | crashsystems, you hopefully see some of the beauty nehind the name | 05:47 |
| akk | Yeah, Ubuntu's are bad but this is far worse. | 05:47 |
| MarkDude | So the mustard was animated going up the hotdog | 05:48 |
| crashsystems | I'm seriously considering buying the Canon 7D. That or the 60D. I can't make up my mind. | 05:48 |
| MarkDude | hence the saying on the back of my shirt "The mustard indicates progress" | 05:48 |
| * akk gets called inside to finish watching Fargo | 05:48 | |
| pleia2 | crashsystems: nice, my boyfriend is looking at the similarly speced nokias | 05:49 |
| pleia2 | nokias? | 05:49 |
| crashsystems | Nikon | 05:49 |
| pleia2 | nikons! | 05:49 |
| pleia2 | yes :) | 05:49 |
| crashsystems | I won't ask him for advice then :D | 05:49 |
| pleia2 | I'm more of a canon girl myself | 05:50 |
| crashsystems | do you have any opinion on 60d vs 7d? | 05:50 |
| pleia2 | no, it's been a couple years since I've seriously looked | 05:50 |
| MarkDude | Here are the pics form the Global Jam, as well as the Beefy Miracle shirt https://picasaweb.google.com/tuxwingsgroup/UbuntuGlobalJamSaxbysWC#5592349700686778802 | 07:18 |
| MarkDude | As well as Jono wearing the Natty Narwhal shirt | 07:18 |
| MarkDude | And Dangerous G also | 07:18 |
| pleia2 | added link to the wiki page | 07:28 |
| MarkDude | Sorry about that, I posted to FB then got busy with stuff | 07:33 |
| kdub | hola channel | 16:55 |
| nhaines | Good morning, jono. | 17:20 |
| jono | hey nhaines | 17:21 |
| crashsystems | I wonder if some people think that framesets make sites more secure | 17:21 |
| kdub | oh sure, when i say hello.... :D | 17:24 |
| kdub | crashsystems: security through obscurity | 17:26 |
| crashsystems | more like security through insanity | 17:27 |
| akk | I think they just like the framed design (based on people I know who stubbornly cling to frame designs). | 17:30 |
| iheartubuntu | i was put on the backup list for UDS! | 19:01 |
| MarkDude | akk I just saw your Twitter message- hella funny | 19:07 |
| akk | The war of the worlds one? | 19:09 |
| MarkDude | The Fedora name thing | 19:16 |
| iheartubuntu | are they putting in those dang digital meters? | 19:16 |
| akk | They already did that, iheartubuntu :( | 19:17 |
| iheartubuntu | looks like a ton of people up in the bay area are protesting and getting those meters reversed or at least put on hold until more data comes out about them | 19:18 |
| iheartubuntu | http://stopsmartmeters.org/ | 19:18 |
| kevin9286049 | hey everybody | 19:19 |
| akk | Yeah -- they've been fighting for a while, and a court case said tough nuts, but a different court case seems to have just reversed that. | 19:19 |
| iheartubuntu | hi kevin8675309 whats up | 19:20 |
| akk | I'm not worried about the radiation thing (which was what the latest court case was about) but I'm bothered by reports of wrong meter readings. | 19:20 |
| iheartubuntu | i know our meter has read higher ever since it was replaced. not by much... couple dollars here, couple there. but we are home even less! | 19:21 |
| kevin9286049 | where do i start iheartubuntu ? i guess with the new blueray player my girlfriend got. it has USB ports :) | 19:21 |
| iheartubuntu | nice | 19:22 |
| akk | I could get behind the smartmeters if there was an easy way for me to read it myself and monitor it. | 19:22 |
| iheartubuntu | http://www.skype.com/intl/en-us/features/allfeatures/skype-access/ | 19:22 |
| iheartubuntu | skype now has internet access on public networks (like airports, etc) | 19:22 |
| iheartubuntu | so u dont need to pay to use the airports wifi, u end up paying skype | 19:23 |
| iheartubuntu | (and probably the airport somehow thru skype) | 19:23 |
| iheartubuntu | kev u have any stretches i can do to fix my back | 19:23 |
| kevin9286049 | what's up with you iheartubuntu ? | 19:23 |
| iheartubuntu | down since sunday | 19:24 |
| iheartubuntu | my back is jacked up | 19:24 |
| kevin9286049 | you could try out a few iheartubuntu. but you'd best take it easy and work your way up to a stronger back | 19:24 |
| kevin9286049 | what do you think is the problem iheartubuntu ? | 19:24 |
| akk | Yoga is supposedly the best long-term solution for back problems (speaking as someone who keeps meaning to try yoga and never gets around to it). | 19:25 |
| * kevin9286049 stands on his head until you go see cal | 19:25 | |
| kevin9286049 | i do "yoga" every day | 19:25 |
| iheartubuntu | mowing the grass 3x | 19:26 |
| kevin9286049 | just gotta' find movements and poses you enjoy, stick to it daily, and go from there | 19:26 |
| iheartubuntu | any good stretches to help the back now? | 19:26 |
| kevin9286049 | you mowed the grass and got back pain iheartubuntu ? | 19:26 |
| kevin9286049 | that is puzzling | 19:26 |
| iheartubuntu | yah :) it was so tall i had to keep mowing and mowing | 19:26 |
| kevin9286049 | i'm not sure, i could recommend a ton, but there is no silver bullet | 19:27 |
| kevin9286049 | and you'd have to use good judgement when executing them (like, if it hurts bad, stop) | 19:27 |
| kevin9286049 | downward dog, bridge, headstand... | 19:27 |
| kevin9286049 | leg lifts may help | 19:27 |
| kevin9286049 | cobra | 19:27 |
| iheartubuntu | im thinking if i just keep moving, it will get better | 19:28 |
| kevin9286049 | the standing forward bend also comes to mind | 19:28 |
| kevin9286049 | i'd do the standing forward bend, see how that feels | 19:28 |
| iheartubuntu | wait are these kama sutra or yoga :) | 19:28 |
| iheartubuntu | (not like i can do either) | 19:28 |
| kevin9286049 | don't get me started on kama sutra | 19:29 |
| kevin9286049 | another one that might help are those "swimming" exercises. lay on your stomach, arch back, hands up, and kick feet | 19:30 |
| kevin9286049 | i'd also recommend some leg lifts, 3 sets | 19:30 |
| iheartubuntu | ive done this cat pose | 19:31 |
| iheartubuntu | do u knw o what im talking about | 19:31 |
| akk | I do stomach crunches (when I remember and feel up to it) and it seems to help keep away back problems. | 19:31 |
| kevin9286049 | oh yeah, that might | 19:31 |
| iheartubuntu | you get down on all fours and then arch your back | 19:31 |
| kevin9286049 | i prefer leg lifts, but they are probably quite similar | 19:31 |
| iheartubuntu | i wonder if acupuncture would help | 19:31 |
| kevin9286049 | yeah, i do that pose sometimes | 19:31 |
| kevin9286049 | also "guru pranam" | 19:32 |
| kevin9286049 | like "child's pose" | 19:32 |
| kevin9286049 | i would be looking for prevention iheartubuntu | 19:32 |
| kevin9286049 | only way that will happen is if you find a exercise routine and stick to it | 19:32 |
| kevin9286049 | 15 min to 30 min a day makes a difference | 19:33 |
| kevin9286049 | but the big mystery to me is, why did you mow your lawn 3x? | 19:33 |
| kevin9286049 | once wasn't enough? | 19:33 |
| iheartubuntu | no | 19:36 |
| iheartubuntu | it was so tall | 19:36 |
| iheartubuntu | i just havent had time | 19:36 |
| kevin9286049 | ohhhhhh | 19:36 |
| iheartubuntu | so i cut it tall | 19:36 |
| iheartubuntu | then medium | 19:36 |
| iheartubuntu | then short | 19:36 |
| kevin9286049 | back and front? | 19:37 |
| iheartubuntu | and i got a huge backyard | 19:37 |
| iheartubuntu | i know, stupid | 19:37 |
| kevin9286049 | if i had a place i would do the landscaping mullet style | 19:37 |
| kevin9286049 | serious in the front | 19:37 |
| kevin9286049 | party in the back | 19:37 |
| iheartubuntu | thats pretty much how i was doing it | 19:37 |
| kevin9286049 | what happened? | 19:37 |
| kevin9286049 | i don't have a yard | 19:37 |
| kevin9286049 | even stupider | 19:37 |
| * kevin9286049 smiles | 19:37 | |
| iheartubuntu | i think pulling the mower cord a bazillion times did me in | 19:38 |
| kevin9286049 | interesting, an electric mower | 19:38 |
| iheartubuntu | no | 19:38 |
| iheartubuntu | regular | 19:38 |
| kevin9286049 | ohhhh | 19:38 |
| kevin9286049 | to start it up | 19:38 |
| iheartubuntu | yah | 19:38 |
| iheartubuntu | i used to do yoga too | 19:38 |
| iheartubuntu | 20 pounds ago | 19:39 |
| iheartubuntu | :| | 19:39 |
| iheartubuntu | there was a great website... some gals did a video feed while doing yoga up in montana or something | 19:39 |
| kevin9286049 | i used to eat hamburgers 20 lbs ago | 19:39 |
| iheartubuntu | they started charging money so i stopped | 19:39 |
| kevin9286049 | i bought a book | 19:39 |
| kevin9286049 | i gave it to my brother | 19:39 |
| kevin9286049 | now i do all kinds of weird stuff that isn't really "yoga" per se | 19:40 |
| kevin9286049 | yoga can be quite boring | 19:40 |
| kevin9286049 | painful too | 19:40 |
| akk | electric mowers are great, no cord pulling or pollution | 19:40 |
| akk | it's sad that they're so hard to find | 19:41 |
| akk | Ours broke and we looked for a replacement, gave up and found a way to fix the old one (better anyway, I know). | 19:41 |
| nhaines | Not that puzzling. Pushing can strain the lower back. | 19:41 |
| nhaines | Oh, I'm off in backscroll land. :( | 19:41 |
| iheartubuntu | maybe thats what did it then | 19:42 |
| iheartubuntu | i ended up duct tapping my mower handle so i would not have to keep starting it up :) | 19:42 |
| iheartubuntu | taping | 19:42 |
| nhaines | A very good stretch is to lay on your back and draw your knees into your chest. | 19:43 |
| iheartubuntu | and duct tape them | 19:44 |
| iheartubuntu | i will try anything at this point | 19:44 |
| iheartubuntu | thanks | 19:44 |
| iheartubuntu | thanks kevin for tips | 19:44 |
| nhaines | Other than that, rest is good. Sleeping flat on your back is best for your back at night. Sleeping on your stomach is worst. | 19:45 |
| kevin9286049 | eh, thank me if they work. hope you feel better | 19:45 |
| nhaines | And if you must sleep on your side, put a pillow between your knees. | 19:45 |
| iheartubuntu | kev.. i found the site i was talking about. http://www.yogatoday.com/ | 19:46 |
| iheartubuntu | but they have some free videos posted often on their blog.. http://blog.yogatoday.com/ | 19:47 |
| kevin9286049 | iheartubuntu: http://images.google.com may be useful to look up images of poses | 19:47 |
| kevin9286049 | nhaines, how are you? | 19:47 |
| nhaines | kevin9286049: feeling under the weather today. Slept in an hour and woke up with a lot of phlegm. | 19:48 |
| nhaines | I'm doing better since then but I am a bit cold. | 19:49 |
| kevin9286049 | nhaines: yeah, there's something going around. my throat and nasal passages have been inflamed | 19:49 |
| kevin9286049 | not too much mucous yet, hopefully this is the worst of it | 19:49 |
| nhaines | Yeah, It's been all this week. Not a ton of mucous but it's really viscous. | 19:49 |
| kevin9286049 | i noticed the air is still pretty chilly, even when the sun is out | 19:50 |
| kevin9286049 | i might consider wearing a handkerchief over my nose and mouth if 1. i had one and 2. it didn't make me look like a bandit | 19:50 |
| nhaines | kevin9286049: might not want to ride the trains. :) | 19:51 |
| kevin9286049 | i hear ya | 19:52 |
| nhaines | Grr, I think this beta CD I burned is bad and I just hosed my laptop. | 19:54 |
| iheartubuntu | thats no fun | 20:06 |
| nhaines | I'll give it one more try, then I'll have a coworker burn me a new CD. At least I didn't have any important files. | 20:11 |
| nhaines | Hmm, well, looks like that install worked... maybe asking to download and install updates broek it the first time. | 21:06 |
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| iheartubuntu | kevin9286049 - this is like a wakeup call for me to get back to the gym :) | 22:54 |
| kevin9286049 | iheartubuntu: the gym is your backyard, don't waste your $ or time on a gym | 22:55 |
| kevin9286049 | unless you are meeting friends | 22:55 |
| kevin9286049 | my $0.000000000 | 22:55 |
| akk | Whatever works for you is the best exercise plans. I dislike gyms but they work for lots of people. | 22:59 |
| iheartubuntu | i agree. i used to do a bunch of stuff! just got lazy | 23:02 |
| pleia2 | I certainly don't feel like I'm wasting my money on my membership | 23:03 |
| * kevin9286049 smiles | 23:03 | |
| iheartubuntu | well, i bought membership to my local gym last year.. i still have a few motnhs on it | 23:03 |
| iheartubuntu | i dropped 20# to go to europe, then uhhh... i guess im still on vacation | 23:04 |
| iheartubuntu | my area is perfect for walking in the cool mornings... im near the mountains, etc, but my wife likes the gym. so pretty much whatever works | 23:04 |
| iheartubuntu | the gym i like becuase u get into a groove | 23:05 |
| kevin9286049 | i like the privacy of home. you can't do crazy stuff at the gym | 23:05 |
| kevin9286049 | well, i guess you *could* | 23:05 |
| kevin9286049 | but it isn't advised | 23:05 |
| kevin9286049 | it's just not very...free | 23:06 |
| kevin9286049 | maybe it's just the gyms i've been to | 23:06 |
| iheartubuntu | the one near me is pretty big... swimming pool, saunas, basketball, etc... like a ymca or something | 23:06 |
| kevin9286049 | the beach! | 23:07 |
| kevin9286049 | saunas and basketball...neat | 23:07 |
| kevin9286049 | dart tag at the gym! | 23:07 |
| kevin9286049 | laser tag at SCaLE was a pretty good work out | 23:07 |
| iheartubuntu | how was that? | 23:07 |
| iheartubuntu | was there enough room to do it? | 23:07 |
| kevin9286049 | yeah | 23:07 |
| kevin9286049 | it was, i dunno, laser tag. you have to let yourself be like a kid to enjoy it | 23:08 |
| akk | Wish I could have done that -- such a fun idea for a conf. | 23:08 |
| kevin9286049 | i felt kind of silly after the 1st round | 23:08 |
| kevin9286049 | but i was generally silly the entire time i was there...soooo | 23:08 |
| kevin9286049 | iheartubuntu: actually, all this exercise talk makes me want to go to the beach. maybe we could have an ubuntu event somewhere | 23:15 |
| kevin9286049 | like malibu or something | 23:15 |
| kevin9286049 | :P | 23:15 |
| akk | A geeknic. | 23:15 |
| kevin9286049 | sure | 23:16 |
| kevin9286049 | "Geeknics, because Geeks don't pic." | 23:16 |
| kevin9286049 | that made no sense | 23:17 |
| * kevin9286049 goes back to perl, ashamed | 23:17 | |
| kdub | san diego | 23:18 |
| akk | http://geeknic.org/ | 23:19 |
| kevin9286049 | i'm not really familiar with san diego beaches. furthest i've been is tressles | 23:20 |
| kevin9286049 | or laguna beach, i went diving there once | 23:20 |
| kevin9286049 | but yeah, i doubt i'll go diving ever again | 23:20 |
| kevin9286049 | well, just looked at a map. 1. it's spelled trestles. 2. laguna beach is more north it seems | 23:24 |
| kevin9286049 | so back to perl. random number generator. and the array is by line. i may have to hand code the array. | 23:25 |
| * MarkDude had a volunteer typing up the list of folks in SoCal that wanted to have a geeknic, they decided typing was tooo hard | 23:25 | |
| MarkDude | So I need to pick up the list and do it myself | 23:25 |
| kevin9286049 | it wasn't me, was it? | 23:26 |
| kevin9286049 | ha | 23:27 |
| kdub | laguna's way north | 23:27 |
| kdub | i think DarkwingDuck was talking about a SD geeknic with our local lug | 23:29 |
| kevin9286049 | MarkDude: seriously, if you need help PM | 23:37 |
| kevin9286049 | that sounds cool kdub | 23:38 |
| kevin9286049 | rats, not help...a hand | 23:38 |
| kevin9286049 | ug, i'm going to mess with this bot some more | 23:39 |
| kevin9286049 | fail at english, fail at perl | 23:39 |
| kevin9286049 | it's a fail fest! | 23:39 |
| * kevin9286049 smiles | 23:39 | |
| MarkDude | Well someone stepped up asa volunteer, and it was too much for them to do. I respectfully thanked them for trying. | 23:39 |
| kevin9286049 | did they forget? or they literally said typing was too hard? | 23:40 |
| kevin9286049 | MarkDude: ^ | 23:40 |
| MarkDude | kevin9286049, my job is to match someone to what best fits them when they volunteer | 23:42 |
| MarkDude | If there is any fail, it lies with me | 23:42 |
| * MarkDude guesses it was the responsibility part, but, that is sorta moot. Maybe they will step up later, maybe not | 23:43 | |
| kevin9286049 | i won't speculate further on your situation MarkDude. but goodluck with your job | 23:47 |
| MarkDude | kevin9286049, no problem. A key insight to all of this might be that a few volunteers are looking for employment | 23:48 |
| MarkDude | The stress is most likely anything that is not directly finding work | 23:49 |
| akk | Always a good thing to keep in mind in times like these. | 23:49 |
| * MarkDude as a general rule would not give volunteers a bad time, its not like they are getting a check | 23:50 | |
| kevin9286049 | oh, absolutely. searching for a job is a job in and of itself | 23:51 |
| kevin9286049 | i still haven't gotten around to updating my resume today | 23:51 |
| kevin9286049 | i think it isn't explicit enough | 23:51 |
| MarkDude | We are able to give them free coffee or other such perks, and soon hopefully be able to offset travel expenses. | 23:52 |
| kevin9286049 | there is an ant crawling on me | 23:56 |
| * kevin9286049 smiles | 23:56 | |
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