[00:04] thanx [00:04] i will have to pick some up [00:04] barely making it today [04:04] hello [04:04] using linux is so fun [04:04] using linux is california is funner :) [04:06] especially ubuntu [04:14] Well even on a spaceship using Linux should be fun [04:14] especially ubuntu [04:15] Dont forget Puppy Linux- it barks when you start it up [04:15] Anywhere you need to use a computer. [04:15] That is fun, IMO [04:15] Ruff ruff. [04:15] weeeeeee [04:18] * MarkDude is wondering if the person from Hawaii ever came back - my machine died- so I have no log of WHERE I was supposed to send them some SWAG [04:18] facepalm [04:26] a Hawaiian? i talked to a Hawaiian at SCaLE wearing a superman shirt [04:26] btw MarkDude how are you? [04:28] i asked him if he was Hawaiian and he said "yeah". then i said "i like your t-shirt" and he said "I *feel* like Superman" and i said "coooool." [04:28] MarkDude: So is Fedora really naming their release Beefy Miracle? Tell me it's a late april fool's joke. [04:29] i think it's still being decided [05:39] grantbow, I cant make it tomorrow, [05:39] akk, no it is very likely the name [05:39] ick [05:39] voting is happening now [05:40] And there are people actually voting for it? [05:40] * MarkDude likes that it REMOVES the #1 thing i hear Fedora folks complain about Ubuntu [05:40] the names [05:40] the whole 2 of the same letter [05:40] this election removes any superiority Fedora may have felt :) [05:41] heh [05:41] Umm, have you seen my profile pic on facebook? [05:42] * MarkDude has a Beefy Miracle shirt [05:43] * akk wades through dozens of "Joe Smith answered 'What's your favorite pickle' with 'Kosher dill'" type entries to find Mark's [05:43] So the beefy miracle is a hot dog? Aren't those usually largely pork? [05:44] I guess this must be an all-beef one. [05:44] Well, Its more than a beef thing [05:44] A vegetarian is partially behind the start, mizmo [05:45] This must be some cultural reference that I'm missing because I'm an old fart. :) [05:45] http://blogs.fedoraproject.org/wp/fifthpillar/hackergotchis/ [05:46] (but googling on beefy miracle gets a fedora page as its first hit, so it's not much of a cultural phenom ...) [05:46] akk: me too, but I can't use age as an excuse :) [05:46] Well I made a tofu miracle [05:46] it was an animated gif at first [05:46] the story behind it was as a generic filler for unbranded Fedora CDs [05:47] I may never complain about Mark Shuttleworth's release names again. [05:47] crashsystems: hehe [05:47] crashsystems, you hopefully see some of the beauty nehind the name [05:47] Yeah, Ubuntu's are bad but this is far worse. [05:48] So the mustard was animated going up the hotdog [05:48] I'm seriously considering buying the Canon 7D. That or the 60D. I can't make up my mind. [05:48] hence the saying on the back of my shirt "The mustard indicates progress" [05:48] * akk gets called inside to finish watching Fargo [05:49] crashsystems: nice, my boyfriend is looking at the similarly speced nokias [05:49] nokias? [05:49] Nikon [05:49] nikons! [05:49] yes :) [05:49] I won't ask him for advice then :D [05:50] I'm more of a canon girl myself [05:50] do you have any opinion on 60d vs 7d? [05:50] no, it's been a couple years since I've seriously looked [07:18] Here are the pics form the Global Jam, as well as the Beefy Miracle shirt https://picasaweb.google.com/tuxwingsgroup/UbuntuGlobalJamSaxbysWC#5592349700686778802 [07:18] As well as Jono wearing the Natty Narwhal shirt [07:18] And Dangerous G also [07:28] added link to the wiki page [07:33] Sorry about that, I posted to FB then got busy with stuff [16:55] hola channel [17:20] Good morning, jono. [17:21] hey nhaines [17:21] I wonder if some people think that framesets make sites more secure [17:24] oh sure, when i say hello.... :D [17:26] crashsystems: security through obscurity [17:27] more like security through insanity [17:30] I think they just like the framed design (based on people I know who stubbornly cling to frame designs). [19:01] i was put on the backup list for UDS! [19:07] akk I just saw your Twitter message- hella funny [19:09] The war of the worlds one? [19:16] The Fedora name thing [19:16] are they putting in those dang digital meters? [19:17] They already did that, iheartubuntu :( [19:18] looks like a ton of people up in the bay area are protesting and getting those meters reversed or at least put on hold until more data comes out about them [19:18] http://stopsmartmeters.org/ [19:19] hey everybody [19:19] Yeah -- they've been fighting for a while, and a court case said tough nuts, but a different court case seems to have just reversed that. [19:20] hi kevin8675309 whats up [19:20] I'm not worried about the radiation thing (which was what the latest court case was about) but I'm bothered by reports of wrong meter readings. [19:21] i know our meter has read higher ever since it was replaced. not by much... couple dollars here, couple there. but we are home even less! [19:21] where do i start iheartubuntu ? i guess with the new blueray player my girlfriend got. it has USB ports :) [19:22] nice [19:22] I could get behind the smartmeters if there was an easy way for me to read it myself and monitor it. [19:22] http://www.skype.com/intl/en-us/features/allfeatures/skype-access/ [19:22] skype now has internet access on public networks (like airports, etc) [19:23] so u dont need to pay to use the airports wifi, u end up paying skype [19:23] (and probably the airport somehow thru skype) [19:23] kev u have any stretches i can do to fix my back [19:23] what's up with you iheartubuntu ? [19:24] down since sunday [19:24] my back is jacked up [19:24] you could try out a few iheartubuntu. but you'd best take it easy and work your way up to a stronger back [19:24] what do you think is the problem iheartubuntu ? [19:25] Yoga is supposedly the best long-term solution for back problems (speaking as someone who keeps meaning to try yoga and never gets around to it). [19:25] * kevin9286049 stands on his head until you go see cal [19:25] i do "yoga" every day [19:26] mowing the grass 3x [19:26] just gotta' find movements and poses you enjoy, stick to it daily, and go from there [19:26] any good stretches to help the back now? [19:26] you mowed the grass and got back pain iheartubuntu ? [19:26] that is puzzling [19:26] yah :) it was so tall i had to keep mowing and mowing [19:27] i'm not sure, i could recommend a ton, but there is no silver bullet [19:27] and you'd have to use good judgement when executing them (like, if it hurts bad, stop) [19:27] downward dog, bridge, headstand... [19:27] leg lifts may help [19:27] cobra [19:28] im thinking if i just keep moving, it will get better [19:28] the standing forward bend also comes to mind [19:28] i'd do the standing forward bend, see how that feels [19:28] wait are these kama sutra or yoga :) [19:28] (not like i can do either) [19:29] don't get me started on kama sutra [19:30] another one that might help are those "swimming" exercises. lay on your stomach, arch back, hands up, and kick feet [19:30] i'd also recommend some leg lifts, 3 sets [19:31] ive done this cat pose [19:31] do u knw o what im talking about [19:31] I do stomach crunches (when I remember and feel up to it) and it seems to help keep away back problems. [19:31] oh yeah, that might [19:31] you get down on all fours and then arch your back [19:31] i prefer leg lifts, but they are probably quite similar [19:31] i wonder if acupuncture would help [19:31] yeah, i do that pose sometimes [19:32] also "guru pranam" [19:32] like "child's pose" [19:32] i would be looking for prevention iheartubuntu [19:32] only way that will happen is if you find a exercise routine and stick to it [19:33] 15 min to 30 min a day makes a difference [19:33] but the big mystery to me is, why did you mow your lawn 3x? [19:33] once wasn't enough? [19:36] no [19:36] it was so tall [19:36] i just havent had time [19:36] ohhhhhh [19:36] so i cut it tall [19:36] then medium [19:36] then short [19:37] back and front? [19:37] and i got a huge backyard [19:37] i know, stupid [19:37] if i had a place i would do the landscaping mullet style [19:37] serious in the front [19:37] party in the back [19:37] thats pretty much how i was doing it [19:37] what happened? [19:37] i don't have a yard [19:37] even stupider [19:37] * kevin9286049 smiles [19:38] i think pulling the mower cord a bazillion times did me in [19:38] interesting, an electric mower [19:38] no [19:38] regular [19:38] ohhhh [19:38] to start it up [19:38] yah [19:38] i used to do yoga too [19:39] 20 pounds ago [19:39] :| [19:39] there was a great website... some gals did a video feed while doing yoga up in montana or something [19:39] i used to eat hamburgers 20 lbs ago [19:39] they started charging money so i stopped [19:39] i bought a book [19:39] i gave it to my brother [19:40] now i do all kinds of weird stuff that isn't really "yoga" per se [19:40] yoga can be quite boring [19:40] painful too [19:40] electric mowers are great, no cord pulling or pollution [19:41] it's sad that they're so hard to find [19:41] Ours broke and we looked for a replacement, gave up and found a way to fix the old one (better anyway, I know). [19:41] Not that puzzling. Pushing can strain the lower back. [19:41] Oh, I'm off in backscroll land. :( [19:42] maybe thats what did it then [19:42] i ended up duct tapping my mower handle so i would not have to keep starting it up :) [19:42] taping [19:43] A very good stretch is to lay on your back and draw your knees into your chest. [19:44] and duct tape them [19:44] i will try anything at this point [19:44] thanks [19:44] thanks kevin for tips [19:45] Other than that, rest is good. Sleeping flat on your back is best for your back at night. Sleeping on your stomach is worst. [19:45] eh, thank me if they work. hope you feel better [19:45] And if you must sleep on your side, put a pillow between your knees. [19:46] kev.. i found the site i was talking about. http://www.yogatoday.com/ [19:47] but they have some free videos posted often on their blog.. http://blog.yogatoday.com/ [19:47] iheartubuntu: http://images.google.com may be useful to look up images of poses [19:47] nhaines, how are you? [19:48] kevin9286049: feeling under the weather today. Slept in an hour and woke up with a lot of phlegm. [19:49] I'm doing better since then but I am a bit cold. [19:49] nhaines: yeah, there's something going around. my throat and nasal passages have been inflamed [19:49] not too much mucous yet, hopefully this is the worst of it [19:49] Yeah, It's been all this week. Not a ton of mucous but it's really viscous. [19:50] i noticed the air is still pretty chilly, even when the sun is out [19:50] i might consider wearing a handkerchief over my nose and mouth if 1. i had one and 2. it didn't make me look like a bandit [19:51] kevin9286049: might not want to ride the trains. :) [19:52] i hear ya [19:54] Grr, I think this beta CD I burned is bad and I just hosed my laptop. [20:06] thats no fun [20:11] I'll give it one more try, then I'll have a coworker burn me a new CD. At least I didn't have any important files. [21:06] Hmm, well, looks like that install worked... maybe asking to download and install updates broek it the first time. === jamalta__ is now known as jamalta [22:54] kevin9286049 - this is like a wakeup call for me to get back to the gym :) [22:55] iheartubuntu: the gym is your backyard, don't waste your $ or time on a gym [22:55] unless you are meeting friends [22:55] my $0.000000000 [22:59] Whatever works for you is the best exercise plans. I dislike gyms but they work for lots of people. [23:02] i agree. i used to do a bunch of stuff! just got lazy [23:03] I certainly don't feel like I'm wasting my money on my membership [23:03] * kevin9286049 smiles [23:03] well, i bought membership to my local gym last year.. i still have a few motnhs on it [23:04] i dropped 20# to go to europe, then uhhh... i guess im still on vacation [23:04] my area is perfect for walking in the cool mornings... im near the mountains, etc, but my wife likes the gym. so pretty much whatever works [23:05] the gym i like becuase u get into a groove [23:05] i like the privacy of home. you can't do crazy stuff at the gym [23:05] well, i guess you *could* [23:05] but it isn't advised [23:06] it's just not very...free [23:06] maybe it's just the gyms i've been to [23:06] the one near me is pretty big... swimming pool, saunas, basketball, etc... like a ymca or something [23:07] the beach! [23:07] saunas and basketball...neat [23:07] dart tag at the gym! [23:07] laser tag at SCaLE was a pretty good work out [23:07] how was that? [23:07] was there enough room to do it? [23:07] yeah [23:08] it was, i dunno, laser tag. you have to let yourself be like a kid to enjoy it [23:08] Wish I could have done that -- such a fun idea for a conf. [23:08] i felt kind of silly after the 1st round [23:08] but i was generally silly the entire time i was there...soooo [23:15] iheartubuntu: actually, all this exercise talk makes me want to go to the beach. maybe we could have an ubuntu event somewhere [23:15] like malibu or something [23:15] :P [23:15] A geeknic. [23:16] sure [23:16] "Geeknics, because Geeks don't pic." [23:17] that made no sense [23:17] * kevin9286049 goes back to perl, ashamed [23:18] san diego [23:19] http://geeknic.org/ [23:20] i'm not really familiar with san diego beaches. furthest i've been is tressles [23:20] or laguna beach, i went diving there once [23:20] but yeah, i doubt i'll go diving ever again [23:24] well, just looked at a map. 1. it's spelled trestles. 2. laguna beach is more north it seems [23:25] so back to perl. random number generator. and the array is by line. i may have to hand code the array. [23:25] * MarkDude had a volunteer typing up the list of folks in SoCal that wanted to have a geeknic, they decided typing was tooo hard [23:25] So I need to pick up the list and do it myself [23:26] it wasn't me, was it? [23:27] ha [23:27] laguna's way north [23:29] i think DarkwingDuck was talking about a SD geeknic with our local lug [23:37] MarkDude: seriously, if you need help PM [23:38] that sounds cool kdub [23:38] rats, not help...a hand [23:39] ug, i'm going to mess with this bot some more [23:39] fail at english, fail at perl [23:39] it's a fail fest! [23:39] * kevin9286049 smiles [23:39] Well someone stepped up asa volunteer, and it was too much for them to do. I respectfully thanked them for trying. [23:40] did they forget? or they literally said typing was too hard? [23:40] MarkDude: ^ [23:42] kevin9286049, my job is to match someone to what best fits them when they volunteer [23:42] If there is any fail, it lies with me [23:43] * MarkDude guesses it was the responsibility part, but, that is sorta moot. Maybe they will step up later, maybe not [23:47] i won't speculate further on your situation MarkDude. but goodluck with your job [23:48] kevin9286049, no problem. A key insight to all of this might be that a few volunteers are looking for employment [23:49] The stress is most likely anything that is not directly finding work [23:49] Always a good thing to keep in mind in times like these. [23:50] * MarkDude as a general rule would not give volunteers a bad time, its not like they are getting a check [23:51] oh, absolutely. searching for a job is a job in and of itself [23:51] i still haven't gotten around to updating my resume today [23:51] i think it isn't explicit enough [23:52] We are able to give them free coffee or other such perks, and soon hopefully be able to offset travel expenses. [23:56] there is an ant crawling on me [23:56] * kevin9286049 smiles