[02:09] <dmcglone> hiya
[02:53] <canthus13> blargh.
[03:01] <BiosElement> canthus13: +500 to that
[03:04] <canthus13> BiosElement: Meh. We switched to a new CRM/provisioning/wipe-your-ass/wash-the-dishes system.  It's like downgrading to windows ME.
[03:04] <BiosElement> lol, wow
[03:04]  * canthus13 wants his old AS/400-based tools back. :(
[03:04] <BiosElement> canthus13: Sounds like the work I had to do helping someone 'upgrade' their site from WP to Joomla. *crys*
[03:04] <canthus13> BiosElement: This new system has found ways to break things that definitely weren't possible with the old software.
[03:04] <BiosElement> Amazing
[03:05] <BiosElement> Oh canthus13 you'll probably like this: http://thechangelog.com/post/4258932732/fool-js-april-1st-javascript-snippet#april
[03:05] <canthus13> ...Like assigning Video service to a cable modem... Which then causes the provisioning server to go "WTF???" and "Fuck it."
[03:05] <BiosElement> hah wow
[03:06] <canthus13> BiosElement: I wish this was an april fool's joke. :(
[03:06] <BiosElement> canthus13: Know how you feel dude. I'm now getting to explain to this idiot why they can't upgrade their site to joomla 1.6. >.> It's not pretty.
[03:06] <canthus13> Heh.  WP is easier to manage than joomla. :P
[03:06] <canthus13> easier to install, too.
[03:07] <BiosElement> (Reason they can't is the joomla project has, simply, incompetent management that don't understand wtf a version number is used for.)
[03:08] <canthus13> could be worse, I suppose... They could be asking for Drupal.
[03:08] <BiosElement> Joomla 1.6 is incompatible with 1.5...wtf? .5 are minor changes.
[03:08] <BiosElement> canthus13: Drupal at least understands what version numbers are.
[03:08] <BiosElement> Joomla just runs a random number generator
[03:08] <canthus13> true.  But installing Drupal is a bit like installing LFS..
[03:09] <BiosElement> canthus13: When was the last time you tried? And Drupal is not meant to be installed by non-techies.
[03:09] <canthus13> I can't imagine trying to 'upgrade' to Drupal from WP.
[03:09] <BiosElement> canthus13: I have, on a regular basis actually. It's not that hard. >.>
[03:09] <canthus13> BiosElement: About 2 years ago. I suppose a lot may have changed since then.
[03:09] <BiosElement> A 'ton' has changed
[03:09] <BiosElement> As in, I think at least two major version releases.
[03:09] <canthus13> I have enough issues with WP.. Mostly caused by lighttpd, though.
[03:09] <BiosElement> At least it's not nginx >.>
[03:09] <canthus13> that and the fact that I don't have hte motivation to get to the bottom of the issues.
[03:09] <BiosElement> Still not sure why people keep talking about that
[03:09]  * canthus13 thought nginx was fast and scaled really well.
[03:09] <BiosElement> Personally, I wouldn't use a web server that has a memory leak that's been known for over 2 years. But that's just me.
[03:12] <BiosElement> A Web interface to manage server settings, what a concept. :P
[03:13] <canthus13> At some point I'm gonna switch back to Apache.
[03:13] <canthus13> I just haven't had the time to deal with the migration.
[03:13] <BiosElement> I'm a CLI guy as much as the next person, but with complex server setups, It's vastly easier to process with a GUI.
[03:14] <canthus13> BiosElement: For a lot of stuff, yes.
[07:06] <Unit193> Anyone use the WebUpd8 PPA? Anyone heard of it?
[07:06] <Cheri703> yeah, I got minitube from it (I think)
[07:06] <Unit193> How is it??
[07:07] <Cheri703> uhm...fine?
[07:07] <Cheri703> I don't know
[07:07] <Cheri703> that's the only thing I've gotten from it
[07:07] <Unit193> Thanks! adding...
[14:39] <Derath-Srvr> Anyone awake?\
[14:50] <Derath-Srvr> SUp
[14:51] <LawrenceO> howdy
[16:42] <Derath-Srvr> :P
[17:01] <thafreak_> Morning...er...afternoon ohio
[17:02] <thafreak_> canthus13: I might be setting up a honeypot network
[17:03] <thafreak> I got my old openwrt router configured as basically a vlan switch...and my m0n0wall router also talks vlans...
[17:03] <Derath-Srvr> Sup Freak
[17:03] <thafreak> Sup
[17:04] <Derath-Srvr> Not much... I'll have a surprise for all the people that have been trying to exploit phpmyadmin on my box soon
[17:04] <thafreak> haha...what's that
[17:05] <Derath-Srvr> masked download to Fedora's dvd iso
[17:05] <thafreak> I'm considering putting a box running damn vulnerable on my honepot network and allowing the internet to access it
[17:05] <thafreak> oh nice...
[17:06] <Derath-Srvr> will call it database-backup.dat
[17:06] <thafreak> that's a novel idea...
[17:06] <thafreak> so when some one tries to hit /phpmyadmin, you redirect or something?
[17:06] <Derath-Srvr> Considering switching method on it to binary stream to take even longer...
[17:06] <Derath-Srvr> Yep
[17:06] <Derath-Srvr> They won't know what it is until they get through all 4.3G, and it's not on my network, so not eating my bandwidth
[17:06] <thafreak> I really need to look through my logs to see what the idiots are doing these days...
[17:07] <thafreak> Nice...too bad it's not on like Libian network though
[17:07] <Derath-Srvr> although one was smart... reversed ip on him... to privatedns
[17:07] <thafreak> waste some dbag's bandwidth
[17:08] <Derath-Srvr> lol
[17:08] <thafreak> really wish I had more time to screw with wannabe attackers...
[17:08] <Derath-Srvr> And getting to go to cols' ubuntu hour tonight
[18:15] <Cheri703> So...I got chosen for sponsorship to UDS-O in Budapest...I'm very surprised by this
[18:15] <Derath-Srvr> UDS? Dev Summit?
[18:15] <Cheri703> yep
[18:15] <Derath-Srvr> Cool! Congrats!
[18:16] <Cheri703> thanks!
[18:16] <Cheri703> I applied for sponsorship as a "hey, what can it hurt? I'm not going to get chosen, but why not?" aaand I got chosen
[18:16] <Derath-Srvr> Cool!
[18:22] <deejoe> Cheri703: congratulations!
[18:24] <Cheri703> thanks deejoe
[20:56]  * Derath-Srvr yawns
[21:44] <Derath-Srvr> wb, if you're even there
[21:46] <Unit193> Derath-Srvr: Board?
[21:46] <Derath-Srvr> a little...
[21:46] <Derath-Srvr> 13 min left of work, then on my way to panera...
[21:47] <Derath-Srvr> wondering if anyone else will be there aside from me and co-worker...
[21:47] <Unit193> I won't
[21:47] <Unit193> popman said he might be going
[21:47]  * Derath-Srvr nudges gilbert
[21:47] <Derath-Srvr> He should be there...
[21:48] <Derath-Srvr> Unless he's in dayton again
[21:54] <Unit193> Done any beta testing?
[21:55] <Unit193> or booting *ubuntu in VM?
[21:57] <Derath-Srvr> not lately....
[21:57] <Derath-Srvr> been doing more vms with other things...
[21:57] <paultag> Hello, World
[21:59] <Derath-Srvr> Sup paultag
[22:02] <Derath-Srvr> Well, on my way to see if anyone shows for ubuntu hour columbus
[22:06] <Unit193> Hello paultag, nhandler
[22:07] <Cheri703> paultag!
[22:09] <Unit193> Hello mathay
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[22:16] <paultag> heyya Unit193, Cheri703 :)
[22:16] <paultag> Derath-Srvr: nada man, how are you?
[22:16] <paultag> eating brb
[22:17] <Cheri703> paultag:  I pm'd you
[22:17] <deejoe> what does brb taste like?
[22:23] <mathay> Hey, Unit193
[22:23] <mathay> How's it going?
[22:23] <Unit193> Well, will be having fun Monday!
[22:23] <Unit193> Cheri703: Tomorrow? late congrats btw
[22:24] <Cheri703> thanks :)
[22:24] <Cheri703> yeah, I'm planning on it
[22:24] <Unit193> deejoe: barbecue roast beef?
[22:24] <Cheri703> also, alden says to bring the processor :)
[22:25] <Unit193> I was planning on it (I hope I don't forget at the last second...)
[22:25] <deejoe> Unit193: dunno.  whatever paultag's having there
[22:25] <Cheri703> kk :)
[22:25] <paultag> whatsit?
[22:26] <deejoe> backscroll my good man
[22:26] <deejoe> that is, if you care to try to decipher what is at best a lame joke
[22:27] <paultag> ha! jokes
[22:29] <Unit193> mathay: How are you doing?
[22:30] <mathay> Unit193: I'm doing alright. Trying to catch up on some news stories--putting off revising the first draft of a paper.
[22:31] <Unit193> Who here *doesn't* procrastinate?
[23:01] <Derath-Srvr> anyone @ panera?
[23:03] <Derath-Srvr> hello?
[23:03] <Unit193> Hello Derath-Srvr
[23:04] <Derath-Srvr> at cols ub hour... no idea if anyone else is here...
[23:05] <Derath-Srvr> have contact info hamdy for spwelton?
[23:06] <Unit193> spwelton is also his gmail
[23:07] <Derath-Srvr> k thx
[23:08] <Unit193> That's what his LP said anyway....
[23:10] <Unit193> Wow, I'm currently in 13 channels on 2 networks (1 channel on the other network)
[23:24] <Derath-Srvr> grrr... this is annoying
[23:25] <Unit193> Only person there?
[23:40] <Derath-Srvr> ssigh
[23:42] <Derath-Srvr> me and coworker
[23:47] <Derath-Srvr> oh well
[23:47]  * Derath-Srvr poofs
[23:47] <Cheri703> Derath-Srvr: we have ubuntu hours with just 2 people sometimes
[23:47] <Cheri703> it happens