[01:23] <ChinnoDog> sup lamalex
[09:06] <JonathanD> Good morning PA.
[10:41] <InHisName> 'Nother good one, JonathanD
[11:02] <JonathanD> Morning
[11:25] <rmg51> 0/
[13:00] <teddy-dbear> o/
[13:10] <jedijf> ssweeny: 28 congrats! keep going.
[14:17] <ssweeny> jedijf, that's the plan
[14:53] <tychoish> anduril!
[15:02] <anduril> tychoish!
[15:09] <tychoish> awat.
[15:09] <anduril> dont interrupt my star trek viewing
[15:09] <anduril> n00b
[15:11] <InHisName> interrupt interrupt
[15:55] <andrew> Anyone have any suggestions to help fix a problem a user is having: copy/pasting of text takes a long time (user has timed it to be 37 seconds to paste) [winxp]?
[15:55] <andrew> JonathanD: ^
[15:56] <JonathanD> no idea
[15:57] <anduril> in specific apps or all apps?
[15:57] <andrew> I know it happens when pasting from word to outlook
[15:57] <JonathanD> ooh
[15:57] <JonathanD> office-office pasting is "Special"
[15:57] <anduril> both have support for pretty large clipboards its possible they're full
[15:57] <anduril> or too large
[15:58] <JonathanD> They also have multi-stage clipboards that hold more than one thing.
[15:59] <andrew> even on older versions of office? (word = 97; outlook = 2003)
[15:59] <anduril> pretty sure 2003 does not sure about 97
[16:00] <anduril> doesnt outlook default to using word as its email composing engine? Check your settings and if so try disabling that
[16:03] <andrew> that isn't set (probably because it requires a newer version of word)
[16:04] <anduril> fdisk. its your only hope
[16:04] <andrew> hmm...
[16:04] <andrew> as in fix, or format
[16:05] <anduril> as a joke :) I have no idea honestly and havent used word 97 since...well...early 2000s
[16:05] <andrew> yeah, I'll have to check to see if it's limited to just that combination, or system wide
[16:08] <anduril> all updates/service packs for the various office software installed?
[16:08] <waltman> andrew: My only guess is that they're out of memory and paging like crazy.
[16:10] <waltman> I suppose a typical windows user response would be to defrag the hd, but I can't see how that would help much.
[16:11] <anduril> I'd say run ccleaner or the like and wipe out temp folders and and its clipboard cache
[16:12] <waltman> clipboard cache?!
[16:12] <waltman> so it's not a single thing?
[16:12] <waltman> wacky windows.
[16:13] <anduril> office has its own clipboard which holds multiple "copies." by default the OS itself only has the most recent but Im sure there's probably a history or a cache of it
[16:14] <waltman> madness
[16:15] <ChinnoDog> You people are confused. lol
[16:15] <andrew> I'll check the page file, good idea
[16:15] <ChinnoDog> Most of the time the clipboard doesn't hold anything but a reference to the pasting program. The office clipboard is a mess though. Is it installed and active?
[16:16] <andrew> granted, the solution to this problem would be to get $user to use Outlook's signature feature instead of copy pasting it in each time...
[16:16] <waltman> I just did a short talk on the X11 clipboard for PLUG Central.  It's weird and nonintuitive, too.
[16:17] <andrew> don't get me started on that clipboard
[16:17] <waltman> For starters, X doesn't really *have* a clipboard :)
[16:17] <andrew> don't get me started on that copy/paste mess
[16:17] <waltman> It's actually kind of clever once you understand what's going on.
[16:17] <andrew> why can't I: 1)copy, 2) lock the screen; 3) unlock the screen; 4) paste ?
[16:18] <waltman> lock with xscreensaver?
[16:18] <waltman> that's an excellent question
[16:19] <waltman> probably whatever's locking the screen is stealing the clipboard selection
[16:21] <waltman> But I don't recall ever wanting to paste after unlocking my screen.  Usually I'm pasting right after copying and the screen hasn't had time to lock.  And if it has locked, I've forgotten what I'd copied.
[16:23]  * tychoish comes back from the abyss 
[16:25] <andrew> waltman: I think I've read that it's cleared when the screen is locked to prevent it from getting pasted when the screen is locked
[16:27] <waltman> The only thing you could paste it into would be the password field of the unlock dialog box, no?
[16:29] <waltman> If so, it seems like it might be easier to just have that not respond to pastes.
[16:29] <andrew> agreed (don't forget the 'leave message' option)
[16:30] <waltman> been a while since I've run xscreensaver...
[16:30] <waltman> I wonder if I could expand my clipboard talk to 40-60 minutes...
[16:35] <tychoish> registers in emacs = hours
[16:36] <waltman> huh?
[21:33] <ChinnoDog> gobble gobble
[21:51]  * erstazi likes LXC (:
[22:03] <MutantTurkey> Gobble Gobble
[22:04] <MutantTurkey> gnome 3.0 released?
[22:10] <ssweeny> it is indeed
[22:11] <MutantTurkey> I'm not sold yet, stuck on xfce 4.8
[22:12]  * ssweeny likes it for the most part
[22:13] <ssweeny> using the ppa for it on natty is a bit frustrating, but i'll reserve final judgment until the final bits are in
[22:16] <MutantTurkey> bloat or not?
[22:16] <ssweeny> not really bloat
[22:16] <ssweeny> more like they haven't worked out all the kinks
[22:16] <MutantTurkey> define _not really_
[22:17] <ssweeny> and the interaction with my graphics driver seems to be problematic
[22:17] <MutantTurkey> D:
[22:17] <ssweeny> like when i open a picture in eye of gnome my whole screen goes black
[22:17] <ssweeny> i'm fairly certain that's not by design
[22:18] <ssweeny> otherwise it's pretty fast
[22:18] <ssweeny> and i love the dynamic workspaces
[22:19] <MutantTurkey> good
[22:19] <MutantTurkey> tempted to try it out
[22:20] <MutantTurkey> wonder if Arch has it in [gnome-unstable] yet...
[22:24] <ssweeny> it should be hitting debian sometime soon
[22:24] <ssweeny> looking forward to that
[23:10] <waltman> I'm not even sold on xfce :)
[23:18] <jedijf> waltman: how long have you xfce'd?
[23:18] <waltman> Just a few days, then I went back to windowmaker :)
[23:19] <jedijf> lol.....6 weeks at least
[23:19] <jedijf> be fair
[23:20] <waltman> I'm addicted to dockapps :)
[23:20] <waltman> and while I found a sort-of solution, it wasn't the same.
[23:21] <waltman> It just didn't seem like it was buying me much
[23:21] <waltman> anyhow, I'm running out to plug central.  I'll be back later.