[07:51] <eagles0513875> hey guys does ubuntu studio follow same release schedule as normal ubuntu line
[08:45] <der_On> hi
[08:48] <eagles0513875> hi
[08:51] <der_On> I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask, but I'm using ubuntu studio 10.10, which I've upgraded from 10.04 with update manager and was just curious about rendering speed on my dual core laptop and just thought I check how much cores will show up under syste resources and it only shows one. Are there things I need to do, to make dual core work? I remember in 10.04 on another dual core laptop I was seeing both CPUs.
[09:00] <eagles0513875> der_On: shouldnt
[09:00] <eagles0513875> der_On: install htop and run htop from commandline u will see both cores
[09:19] <der_On> eagles: Only one CPU column in htop
[09:19] <der_On> I have an Intel Core i5-430M
[09:19] <der_On> which is a dual core with hyperthreading
[09:19] <der_On> I will check bios now.
[09:24] <eagles0513875> up
[09:24] <eagles0513875> i5's arent hyper threaded
[09:24] <eagles0513875> i7s are
[09:25] <eagles0513875> i stand corrected they are
[09:27] <der_On> cat /proc/cpuinfo shows me only one processor and only one core for it. :/
[09:29] <der_On> well lets see bios
[10:06] <der_On> so back again. I've found out what the problem was. I had to enable acpi in grub to get all cores and hyperthreading
[10:07] <der_On> however I'm dual-booting linux and I can only get it to work in one linux, not the other one
[18:02] <ineff> Hi everyone
[18:03] <eagles0513875> hi hi
[18:03] <ineff> I've a problem with PulseAudio and Jackd
[18:03] <ineff> I'd like IDJC together with skype, can anyone help me?
[18:05] <ineff> The real problem seems to be redirecting pulseaudio output to jack
[18:05] <ineff> skype doesn't even see jack between output devices
[18:15] <holstein> ineff: let me suggest a few things
[18:15] <holstein> there is a pulse to jack bridge available in a PPA
[18:15] <holstein> from falktx
[18:16] <holstein> but, sharing IDJC via skype is probably not ideal
[18:16] <holstein> i run an icecast server
[18:16] <holstein> and use darkice to stream via JACK
[18:17] <holstein> you should feel free to email skype and let them know you use linux
[18:17] <holstein> and would like to have JACK support
[18:17] <ineff> does it works with any jabber client?
[18:18] <holstein> it?
[18:18] <holstein> darkice?
[18:18] <holstein> no
[18:18] <holstein> its not for that
[18:18] <holstein> its for streaming to the internet from JACK
[18:18] <holstein> also, there is mumble
[18:19] <holstein> mumble is crossplatform
[18:19] <holstein> and the verion falktx maintains has JACK support
[18:19] <holstein> the issue is
[18:19] <holstein> you are trying to mix 2 things together
[18:19] <holstein> that usually do not get mixed together
[18:19] <ineff> i mean, i need to stream a call made via a jabber client, can darkice manage the thing?
[18:19] <holstein> nope
[18:20] <ineff> is there any solution?
[18:20] <holstein> yes
[18:20] <ineff> yeah
[18:20] <holstein> the 2 or 3 i mentioned should do it
[18:20] <holstein> the pulse-jack bridge
[18:20] <holstein> OR mumble
[18:20] <holstein> or just stream the music over an icecast server
[18:20] <holstein> OR...
[18:20] <holstein> run 2 machines
[18:21] <holstein> one with skype and whatever else
[18:21] <holstein> and line out of the JACK machine into it
[18:22] <ineff> i think there is a misuderstanding
[18:22] <ineff> *misunderstanding
[18:22] <ineff> i have to make a call during a live show on a webradio - i want the audience to hear it
[18:24] <holstein> OK
[18:25] <holstein> and you are married to skype then?
[18:25] <holstein> cant use mumble?
[18:26] <ineff> No, I can use it.
[18:26] <ineff> but how does it work?
[18:26] <holstein> ineff: let me send you to #opensourcemusicians
[18:26] <holstein> we run a podshow there
[18:26] <holstein> and use all kinds of different tools
[18:26] <holstein> like the ones i mentioned
[18:26] <holstein> with mumble
[18:26] <holstein> assuming you want JACK support
[18:26] <holstein> you need the verion from falktx's PPA
[18:27] <holstein> mumble needs a server too
[18:27] <holstein> murmur
[18:27] <holstein> and then the other person need the client as well
[18:27] <holstein> and its cross platform and opensource :)
[18:27] <holstein> thats option A
[18:27] <holstein> OR
[18:27] <holstein> if you want to use skype with JACK
[18:28] <holstein> you could use a seperate machine*
[18:28] <holstein> OR
[18:28] <holstein> the new pulse-jack bridge
[18:28] <holstein> that falktx maintains in his PPA for kxstudio
[18:28] <holstein> OR the older method that im not familiar with
[18:28] <holstein> pulse-jack-sink i believe its called
[18:29] <ineff> ok I'll try the pulse-jack bridge
[18:29] <holstein> all of those options have been used and discussed at lenght in the #opensourcemusicians channel
[18:30]  * holstein BBL...
[18:36] <ineff> Ok I've added the repository of falktx, but it seems that there aren't maverik packages
[18:50] <holstein> ineff: what did you add?
[18:50] <holstein> ineff: you also dont have to add the repo
[18:51] <holstein> you can just search in the repo for the .debs you want
[18:51] <holstein> since there are a *lot* of different packages in there
[18:51] <ineff> yes, but anyway
[18:51] <holstein> *i would suggest the latter
[18:51] <holstein> ineff: what did you add?
[18:51] <holstein> theres a PPA for lucid
[18:51] <ineff> ok
[18:51] <holstein> which says *dericated
[18:51] <ineff> and could it work with maverik?
[18:51] <holstein> and gives links to the new one
[18:52]  * holstein looking
[18:52] <holstein> ineff: did you update yet?
[18:52] <ineff> I've seen that there're three versions: one for lucid, one for karmic and also one for natty
[18:53] <ineff> but I couldn't find the version for maverick
[18:53] <holstein> ineff: maybe link me to the PPA you used?
[18:53] <holstein> so i know which one you are talking about...
[18:54] <ineff> http://ppa.launchpad.net/falk-t-j/kxstudio/ubuntu/dists/
[18:54] <ineff> this one
[18:55] <holstein> see https://launchpad.net/~kxstudio-team/+archive/ppa/
[18:56] <ineff> I'll see
[18:56] <ineff> thanks a lot :D
[18:57] <holstein> theres instructions there about pulse-jack
[18:57] <holstein> and falktx is on quite often
[18:57] <ineff> I see
[18:57] <holstein> in #kxstudio or the other channel i mentioned
[18:57] <holstein> or #ubuntustudio-devel
[18:59] <ineff> Cool
[18:59] <ineff> holstein, Thanks a lot!
[18:59] <ineff> I hope this could solve my problem
[19:00] <ineff> Now I've to run. Thanks again.
[19:01] <holstein> ineff: good luck :)
[19:01] <ineff> thanks
[21:08] <opticx> is there anything normal ubuntu has that studio doesnt? or does this just have add ons?
[21:08] <holstein> opticx: for all intents and purposes
[21:08] <holstein> ubuntustudio = ubuntu
[21:08] <holstein> has the same repos
[21:08] <opticx> thats what I thought
[21:08] <holstein> BUT
[21:08] <holstein> if you take an ubuntu install
[21:09] <holstein> and an ubuntustudio install
[21:09] <holstein> there are quite a few differences
[21:09] <holstein> of course the theme-ing
[21:09] <opticx> im guessing with drivers?
[21:09] <holstein> look and feel
[21:09] <holstein> opticx: not really
[21:09] <holstein> we have access to the same kernels
[21:09] <holstein> and right now
[21:09] <ailo> My favorite difference is that Ubuntu Studio uses less memory
[21:09] <opticx> this is my first linux install
[21:09] <holstein> ubuntustudio comes with the same -generic kernel
[21:10] <opticx> ok good
[21:10] <holstein> however
[21:10] <ailo> opticx, I recommend Lucid
[21:10] <holstein> til natty
[21:10] <holstein> the normal ubuntustudio does not have the gnome network manager installed
[21:10] <holstein> which can give wifi users a hard time
[21:10] <holstein> ailo: thats in natty though right?
[21:11] <holstein> anyways.. there are other groups of software ubuntustudio has
[21:11] <ailo> holstein, wifi?
[21:11] <holstein> metapackages
[21:11] <holstein> ailo: the gnome network manger
[21:11] <opticx> i was going to use ubuntu on my laptop anyway its just for dev
[21:11] <holstein> opticx: for a laptop, i usually install normal ubuntu
[21:11] <holstein> and add what i want
[21:11] <opticx> lucid?
[21:12] <holstein> IF you're not doing professional audio
[21:12] <holstein> or video editing
[21:12] <holstein> there are a lot of packages that you are not going to take advantage of
[21:12] <opticx> im used to using steinberg and after effects - vegas
[21:12] <holstein> opticx: lucid the the last long term support release
[21:12] <holstein> ubuntu 10.04
[21:12] <opticx> i may end up using a virtual machine until i get used to the linux tools
[21:13] <ailo> opticx, With Ubuntu Lucid 10.04 you'll find it's easier to tune it for audio
[21:13] <opticx> as opposed to maverick?
[21:13] <opticx> im going to keep using this until i upgrade my machine
[21:13] <ailo> opticx, Maverick works, but it's a little more work to get low latencies
[21:14] <holstein> opticx: this = ?
[21:14] <opticx> all im really doing right now is web dev anyway
[21:14] <opticx> ubuntu studio maverick
[21:14] <holstein> cool :)
[21:14] <opticx> im installed and like it
[21:15] <ailo> opticx, Natty is around the corner too, which will probably be pretty good for audio as well
[21:15] <opticx> i didnt install anything extra though i actually fat fingered the install at options
[21:15] <opticx> but i assume i can add those things
[21:15] <opticx> it needs a confirmation of the add ons
[21:16] <opticx> can i go back and add those?
[21:16] <opticx> when you install and it asks you to mark the packages you want
[21:16] <ailo> opticx, add ons?
[21:16] <opticx> i screwed that up
[21:16] <ailo> All of the packages in Ubuntu Studio are available on a normal Ubuntu as well
[21:17] <opticx> cool
[21:17] <opticx> im happy with it
[21:17] <ailo> You find them using synaptic packager
[21:17] <opticx> yea
[21:17] <ailo> Synaptic Package Manager
[21:17] <opticx> ive had trouble with firefox
[21:17] <opticx> and with flash on chrome
[21:17] <opticx> im using windows version of ff on wine atm
[21:18] <opticx> the linux version false starts
[21:18] <ailo> opticx, Open a terminal and do: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras ubuntu-restricted-addons
[21:18] <ailo> Flash is not installed by default but is available in the repo
[21:18] <opticx> ive installed it
[21:19] <opticx> ok
[21:19] <ailo> ubuntu-restricted will add some non-free stuff like mp3
[21:19] <opticx> unable to locate
[21:20] <ailo> opticx, And chrome is available as chromium-browser if you want to try that instead
[21:20] <opticx> thats what im using
[21:20] <opticx> actually i dont know that its not flash
[21:20] <opticx> err
[21:20] <opticx> let me see what it is
[21:21] <opticx> but anyway, very few problems
[21:21] <ailo> opticx, unable to locate? The two packages are: ubuntu-restricted-extras ubuntu-restricted-addons
[21:21] <opticx> those addons couldnt be found though
[21:21] <opticx> yea
[21:21] <holstein> opticx: open whatever you are comfortalbe with
[21:21] <holstein> synaptic or whatever
[21:21] <holstein> and search ubuntustudio
[21:22] <opticx> E: Unable to locate package unbuntu-restricted
[21:22] <opticx> im comfortable with terminal
[21:22] <holstein> and you'll see the metapackages you missed at install
[21:22] <holstein> opticx: OK
[21:22] <holstein> sudo apt-cache search ubuntustudio
[21:22] <holstein> and you'll see what is available :)
[21:22] <ailo> opticx, Sorry :P. ubuntu-restricted was not the package name, but the two I mentioned above
[21:22] <opticx> nice
[21:23] <opticx> thats helps alot
[21:23] <opticx> now i can install them
[21:23] <holstein> for example
[21:23] <holstein> ubuntustudio-audio
[21:23] <opticx> when im ready i have to work some time today
[21:23] <holstein> and ubuntustudio-audio-plugins
[21:23] <opticx> yea
[21:23] <holstein> those are the ones i use
[21:23] <holstein> jack ardour
[21:23] <opticx> ive got the list
[21:23] <holstein> and plugins
[21:23] <opticx> and found out how to search
[21:23] <opticx> i just dont know many commands
[21:24] <holstein> sudo apt-get install whatever
[21:24] <holstein> if you want
[21:24] <opticx> but ive used ssh and learning git
[21:24] <holstein> BUT
[21:24] <holstein> you can also
[21:24] <holstein> just install what you want
[21:24] <holstein> sudo apt-get install audacity
[21:24] <holstein> or
[21:24] <holstein> sudo apt-get install ardour
[21:24] <holstein> like that
[21:24] <holstein> and end up with just what you want
[21:24] <opticx> hmm
[21:25] <opticx> do any adobe products work ?
[21:25] <opticx> im pretty in love with after effects
[21:25] <holstein> opticx: email them and ask
[21:25] <holstein> ;0
[21:25] <opticx> lol
[21:25] <opticx> good one
[21:25] <holstein> i was told photoshop was working now
[21:25] <holstein> but i'll never know
[21:26] <holstein> personally
[21:26] <opticx> im going to have to still use a vm with wun7 and xp for some stuff
[21:26] <holstein> *not that theres anything wrong with it
[21:26] <opticx> for a while at least
[21:26] <holstein> opticx: you and check winehq
[21:26] <holstein> see whats working in wine
[21:26] <holstein> or really
[21:26] <holstein> email the vendors
[21:26] <opticx> yea im using wine for what i can
[21:26] <holstein> i think its good to get on the radar at least
[21:26] <holstein> that you are a professional not able to use their product
[21:26] <opticx> what ill do is get a list of stuff I cant use
[21:27] <opticx> and email them all at once
[21:27] <holstein> i get on little vendettas from time to time
[21:27] <opticx> i think any developer that uses a linux server should be using some form of it on their desktop
[21:28] <opticx> thats why i switched mainly, and im tired of windows
[21:28] <holstein> well, i say use the best tool for the job
[21:28] <holstein> and if you're going to be online with the machine
[21:28] <holstein> that pretty much rules out windows
[21:28] <opticx> im not online
[21:28] <holstein> and OSX has its own issue too
[21:28] <holstein> but, computers suck in general i say
[21:28] <opticx> but connecting, being used to using it and how it works
[21:29] <holstein> i just find ubuntu/linux to be the best tool for me
[21:29] <opticx> it seams pretty lean to me
[21:29] <opticx> i can run windows for what i need on top
[21:29] <holstein> finding drivers and keeping up with anti-virus is a drag
[21:29] <holstein> most windows users dont do that
[21:30] <holstein> they just use a machine til it 'breaks'
[21:30] <opticx> lol
[21:30] <holstein> and get a new one
[21:30] <holstein> and thats fine too i suppose
[21:30] <opticx> well i better work
[21:30] <holstein> opticx: o/
[21:30] <holstein> see you around :)
[21:30] <holstein> enjoy
[21:30] <opticx> clients dont pay me to play with my linux machine
[21:31] <opticx> ill be lurking
[21:31] <holstein> opticx: sure
[21:31] <holstein> hang as long as you like
[23:12] <[snake]> ho do I use the mixer in LMMS (the documentation is atrocious)
[23:16] <[snake]> wait... I was on the wrong(unofficial) documentation. The real documentation isn't that bad... I found what I needed already.
[23:16] <[snake]> I might be back someday.. cheers.