[00:02] <aaronth> so is unity coming to xubuntu ?
[00:05] <ochosi> aaronth: no
[00:07] <aaronth> oh thats good
[00:07] <aaronth> it would weight it more
[00:10] <aaronth> any news on ubuntu software center?
[00:12] <ochosi> aaronth: what exactly do you mean?
[00:20] <aaronth> the usc? or unity?
[00:23] <ochosi> aaronth: neither of those have anything to do with xubuntu directly, i'd recommend asking about them in #ubuntu
[00:24] <aaronth> well the unity does if i is installed in xubuntu
[00:24] <aaronth> *it is
[04:41] <raonid> Hi all! Is there an easy way to run xubuntu from a USB drive?
[06:43] <AnneNonimus> Why is my USB headset only detected half the time I boot?
[07:09] <well_laid_lawn> AnneNonimus:  try using a different usb port to see if it keeps happening
[07:10] <AnneNonimus> Well the thing is I can see the device using lsusb, but it doesn't register as an audio output source.
[07:12] <well_laid_lawn> have you done anything to speed up the boot process?
[07:13] <well_laid_lawn> or is the device being  registered as being something else?
[07:29] <AnneNonimus> I haven't done anything to the boot process.
[07:29] <AnneNonimus> How do I check if the device is being detected as something else?
[07:39] <well_laid_lawn> does it show in the X log at /var/log/Xorg.0.log as something else? - it'll be listed near the end
[07:42] <well_laid_lawn> X uses evdev to associate stuff so it might show in there
[07:43] <ubd> hi can i convert ubuntu server 10.04 to xubuntu?
[07:45] <Unit193> You should be able to do "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"
[07:45] <Unit193> Might be easier and cleaner to reinstall
[07:47] <well_laid_lawn> the server install and xfce can make a lighter operating system
[07:48] <Unit193> Then it wouldn't be xubuntu-desktop you need to install
[07:50] <AnneNonimus> The headset does show up in the log.
[07:51] <Unit193> ubd: What are you looking to do? (sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop --no-install-recommends is yet another way of doing it...)
[07:52] <AnneNonimus> Well, after looking at the logs, it seems that the headset is being added as a keyboard.
[07:53] <well_laid_lawn> AnneNonimus:  there's not an entry in the log after that dregistering it?
[07:53] <AnneNonimus> Nope
[07:54] <well_laid_lawn> AnneNonimus:  you might need to check if the sound hardware needs something added in /etc/modules or similar
[07:54] <well_laid_lawn> what is the soundcard?
[07:55] <AnneNonimus> How do I check?
[07:55] <well_laid_lawn> in a terminal   lspci | grep -i audio
[07:56] <AnneNonimus> Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP51 High Definition Audio (rev a2)
[07:56] <well_laid_lawn> iirc that'll use the intelhd driver
[07:56] <well_laid_lawn> !intelhda
[07:57] <well_laid_lawn> that link might have a clue
[07:57] <AnneNonimus> Thanks
[07:57] <well_laid_lawn> np
[08:01] <ubd> Unit193 thanks, could you tell me whats the difference of --no-install-recommends
[08:02] <Unit193> ubd: That won't install the "recommended" software, only what it needs to fun xfce well
[08:02] <Unit193> ^fun^run
[08:04] <ubd> allright
[08:04] <ubd> thanks!
[15:20] <asadeddin> hey all
[15:21] <asadeddin> quick question. I am on ubuntu and i m trying to SSH into my fedora machine, the problem is that when i try it on both they say connection refused
[15:21] <asadeddin> they're on the same router
[15:21] <asadeddin> any ideas?
[15:21] <asadeddin> i know this isnt a xubuntu thing, but yeah... :/
[15:22] <Thermi> is the openssh server installed on the fedora machine?
[15:23] <Thermi> you need the openssh server on a machine to be able to ssh into it
[15:23] <asadeddin> do u know the command? i m new to fedora. i dont know how to use YUM
[15:23] <Thermi> me neither
[15:23] <Thermi> i use ubuntu and debian :D
[15:23] <Thermi> try googling it :)
[15:24] <asadeddin> ok i realized on my machine there isnt openssh server
[15:50] <Sysi> openssh should be installed by default but you need to get it running
[15:51] <Lord_Rahl> xubuntu sudo apt-get install ssh - fedora I think it yum install openssh or yum search ssh
[15:51] <knome> openssh-server for the server
[15:51] <Lord_Rahl> cool
[15:53] <knome> Sysi, i don't think the server is installed by default
[15:56] <asadeddin> got it working btw
[15:56] <asadeddin> i had to install it
[15:56] <asadeddin> the server isnt installed by default
[15:56] <asadeddin> and then u have to swtich to su
[15:56] <asadeddin> and start the service
[15:56] <asadeddin> u cant start it on normal user permissions
[15:56] <asadeddin> but now i m trying to vnc
[15:56] <asadeddin> any ideas?
[15:58] <Sysi> knome: in fedora it is, in xubuntu not
[15:58] <Sysi> (is for my F14 xfce spin)
[15:58] <asadeddin> Sysi, i just had to install openssh server on fedora 14
[15:58] <asadeddin> i dont know on LXDE it wasnt
[15:59] <asadeddin> openssh is installed but not server as i saw
[16:01] <knome> Sysi, well this ain't a fedora support channel ;)
[17:07] <asadeddin> hey all. I need some help setting up VNC. I m getting this error trying to start up vncserver   Starting VNC server: 2:cmlserver                           [FAILED]
[17:10] <xubuntu928> salve a tutti!
[17:11] <asadeddin> salve!
[17:11] <xubuntu928> volevo solo chiedervi una cosa perchè ho appena installato xubuntu
[17:12] <xubuntu928> siccome ho xubuntu su un hd e win xp sull'altro mi chiedevo: all'avvio il grub mi visualizzerà la scelta di che sistema operativo avviare? nonostante siano su hd diversi..
[17:13] <asadeddin> oh mio dio
[17:13] <asadeddin> non ci molto italian qui!
[17:13] <charlie-tca> This is an english channel
[17:13] <charlie-tca> !it
[17:14] <asadeddin> mi dispiace!
[19:31] <paul__> hello, what's the default screenshot program in xubuntu please (newish user here and can't figure out how to get that info from the applications panel)
[19:32] <Sysi> xfce4-screenshooter(-plugin)
[19:32] <mark76> Xfce4-screenshooter
[19:32] <mark76> Snap
[19:32] <paul__> thanks, so thats the command I'd need for a new panel launcher thingy?
[19:32] <mark76> Actually... Snap'd be a great name for a screenshooter app
[19:33] <mark76> You'll need to download it from the repos
[19:33] <knome> paul__, xfce4-screenshooter, yes
[19:33] <paul__> trying to drag from applications menu to panel doesn't work as I'd hoped
[19:33] <charlie-tca> Try right-clicking yher
[19:33] <paul__> I think i did
[19:33] <Sysi> right click → add new items should have screenshooter
[19:33] <mark76> Which Xfce do you have?
[19:33] <charlie-tca> the panel and add it through the add to panel button
[19:34] <paul__> mark76, er not sure! charlie-tca yes I understand that bit thanks
[19:35] <paul__> thought i might just drag it from applications menu to panel
[19:35] <paul__> but can't lol
[19:35] <mark76> Which version of Xubuntu do you have?
[19:35] <charlie-tca> The app and the panel app are not quite the same thing. There are two items even though they do work the same
[19:36] <paul__> oh latest xubuntu and xfce 4
[19:36] <mark76> 10.10 or 11.04 Beta?
[19:37] <paul__> 10.10 :D
[19:37] <mark76> 10.10 has Xfce-4.6. Which doesn't support drag to panel
[19:38] <mark76> Drag to panel support has only been implemented in 4.8
[19:38] <Sysi> aka. coming in natty
[19:38] <mark76> Yeah
[19:39] <paul__> well that's good - it's what I'd expect to be able to do
[19:39] <mark76> There's a screenshooter plugin for the panel
[19:39] <paul__> ok i now have screenshot launcher with nice icon
[19:39] <mark76> Cool :)
[19:40] <paul__> i wanted it to use with Zim - the screenshot plugin for that program doesnt work too well
[19:42] <paul__> so, where is the application menu 'editor'? I sort of see where the menu list is stored (pretend to choose cutome menu o see location of default) but  I thought looking....
[19:43] <paul__> at that file might show me what commands are executed by each menu item and thereby find command for screenshot!
[19:43] <mark76> There isn't one
[19:43] <charlie-tca> No menu editor until natty releases
[19:43] <paul__> lol, even a text file with the menu commands in?
[19:43] <charlie-tca> You can find most of the menu information in the desktop files, though. It is in /usr/share/applications
[19:44] <charlie-tca> right click them and select edit with...
[19:44] <charlie-tca> or maybe open with...
[19:44] <mark76> You can't edit stuff in /usr/ unless you're root
[19:45] <charlie-tca> but you can rread every file without being root
[19:45] <mark76> Well you can. You just can't save it
[19:45] <mark76> True
[19:45] <charlie-tca> If you want to know the information for a launcher you create, you do not need to edit the file, you only need to read it
[19:46] <paul__> got it thanks, now i see xfce4-screenshooter ;)
[19:47] <paul__> I've used regular ubuntu and debian a little and netbook a little less but xubuntu is mighty fine on my old thinkpad - makes my xp desktop feel like treacle
[19:48] <charlie-tca> :-)
[19:50] <mark76> What does XP stand for anyway? eXcessively Plastic?
[19:50] <paul__> eXPunged now
[19:50] <Sysi> your face when you try to use it
[19:52] <ljsoftnet> how do i fix skype webcam?, its to dark
[19:52] <paul__> thank you for the help - I'm off to play with my wiki :P
[20:14] <differentSmoke> hello: I need to mount my windows partition but it does not appear listed in the terminal when I run the "mount" command. I'm in Xubuntu 10.04. What can i do?
[20:15] <charlie-tca> Applications -> System -> Gigolo
[20:15] <charlie-tca> MIght need samba too, I don't know
[20:15] <charlie-tca> !samba
[20:21] <differentSmoke> charlie-tca: thanks man
[20:21] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[20:25] <Faravid> Hi, I already tried ubuntu forums, with no answers
[20:26] <charlie-tca> Please ask your question all in one line. All of us are volunteers and will attempt to answer if we know.
[20:26] <Faravid> Anyone had problems with screen not waking up after monitor sleep (full sleep disabled)
[20:26] <Faravid> HDD ligh flashes so I think it's screen only problem
[20:27] <charlie-tca> It is probably video card related
[20:27] <knome> Faravid, had some ~similar problems, disable monitor sleep.
[20:27] <Faravid> I've thought about it, this old laptop has Savage IX/MX video card, which drivers I've read is not developed anymore
[20:28] <Faravid> Also hardware acceleration fails to work though it should work
[20:29] <Faravid> disabling monitor sleep is a little bit bad solution since this is a laptop and I wish I could use it with battery power, disabling sleep functions isn't the number one solution
[20:30] <Faravid> Can I look for solution from logs? which log file contains information about monitor sleep and what I should look for?
[20:37] <Faravid> sigh, off to test with xorg.conf
[20:47] <Faravid> Got it to work somewhat, a while ago I created xorg.conf but afterwards I removed it, but now i realized from xorg log that xorg was still searching for it and said and error that config file is not present. Now I ran Xorg -configure and moved the new xorg.conf file to right folder
[20:48] <Faravid> It works but Xfce desktop shuts down and I'm forced to log in with all the windows i previously had open were gone
[20:48] <charlie-tca> save session, when you log out or shutdown
[20:49] <Faravid> I put monitor to sleep, I did not log out or shut down
[20:50] <Faravid> When i wake monitor I face Xfce login screen, after logging in all the windows are gone, that shouldn't be normal
[20:50] <ichat> question... :)  when i follow - this howto  http://geekyprojects.com/ubuntu/build-your-own-custom-ubuntu-livecd/ -  but not removing ubiquity -  will that render me an instaleble   custom xubuntu install?
[20:51] <charlie-tca> ubiquity is used by both ubuntu and xubuntu as the installer
[20:52] <charlie-tca> Faravid: If you have not saved the session already, no matter how you get to the login screen, it starts with what is saved as the session.
[20:52] <charlie-tca> That is the correct behavior for Xfce.
[20:53] <Faravid> Is it possible to make it default to save the session before sleep or suspend?
[20:54] <ichat> that means that if i leave that package, any other changes i make in this  ubuntu-customisation-kit     will be also  installed   -
[20:54] <Faravid> It's pretty unpractical to open everything again if you just leave the computer alone for couple of minutes
[20:55] <charlie-tca> Faravid: Applications -> Settings -> Settings Manager -> Sessions and Startup, session tab
[20:55] <charlie-tca> One way is to logout, saving the session, then log back in. Then it should bring all the windows back each time
[20:56] <Faravid> One moment, testing the auto save
[21:05] <Faravid> Ok well, part of the problem solved, I had "lock screen" when laptop lid is closed, I disabled it and monitor woke up with everything intact
[21:22] <Faravid> btw, screen saver config shouldn't right away initialize hard ware acceleration, in my case it causes Xfce to restart and I had to disable screen saver by terminal command
[21:23] <Faravid> oh btw, got to test the screen saver after I changed xorg config
[21:24] <Faravid> Instant crash
[21:25] <mark76> Instant Replay!
[21:25]  * mark76 does Dan Hartman impersonation
[21:26] <mark76> Sorry
[21:26] <mark76> Carry on
[21:33] <Faravid> Could this have something to do with the crash? syslog: "Apr  6 23:23:33 Wanhus gdm-session-worker[4032]: GLib-GObject-CRITICAL: g_value_get_boolean: assertion `G_VALUE_HOLDS_BOOLEAN (value)' failed"
[21:53] <Faravid> question, should i try to compile DRI myself to fix 3d acceleration? (with the instructions from this site: http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/Building)
[22:00] <knome> Faravid, if you want to adventurous, but we can't really support that
[22:04] <Faravid> so i should probably make an hdd image before trying that? ;)
[22:05] <knome> probably..
[22:05] <Faravid> btw, does building dri make it difficult to install updates or distro upgrades?
[22:05] <knome> it might just break things
[22:05] <Faravid> ok so i won't even try
[22:06] <knome> :)
[22:07] <Faravid> i have one possible solution though, i will try to install video card from never version of this laptop, bought one from ebay just for testing if it is possible to install it to this laptop =P
[22:07] <knome> :)
[22:07] <knome> good luck!
[22:07] <knome> bbl ->
[22:08] <Faravid> thanks
[23:26] <andai> i can't select session at login
[23:26] <andai> i have to change the default session using "Login Settings" and logout every single time
[23:52] <aaronth_> where should I list a error about Xubuntu?