[00:11] will unity be gtk3 for oneiric? [00:18] I'd presume so. === a3Dman- is now known as a3Dman [00:37] Thats assuming all the required theme support is there. [00:40] good day all === yofel_ is now known as yofel === smspilla|zzz is now known as smspillaz [01:20] good evening people [01:20] gnome-shell is just so absurdly polished. [01:24] you running it on natty? [07:58] good morning [08:04] good morning [08:08] m [08:08] orning folks === _LibertyZero is now known as LibertyZero [08:40] didrocks: morning - so i'll merge the libunity branches from https://bugs.launchpad.net/libunity/+bug/747677 - so an ABI break is comming down the pipe today. I'll bump the soname of libunity [08:40] Ubuntu bug 747677 in Ubuntu One Control Panel "[FFE] Need API to set urgency from background process" [High,In progress] [08:42] so so… [08:42] places have to be rebuild [08:42] and all libunity rdepends? [08:43] kamstrup: it's not only an API addition as there are some removals, isn't it? [08:43] kamstrup: Is the removal acked by the other bug for FFe? [08:45] didrocks: Oh, I thought the removal was part of the FFE [08:45] kamstrup: I think it's another one [08:45] didrocks: dbarth wrote in the FFE request "we're removing an API that only the U1 client was really using..." [08:45] kamstrup: can you just check? I saw pitti had concerns [08:46] https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/747311 [08:46] Ubuntu bug 747311 in Unity Foundations "Launcher - Remove the capability for Launcher icons to be overlaid with emblems" [High,Confirmed] [08:46] ok, it's approved [08:46] can you link the other bug? [08:46] so, I have to rebuild every libunity rdepends :/ [08:47] didrocks: yeah - you should make sabdfl do it :-) [08:47] kamstrup: heh :) [08:47] didrocks: both bugs are linked to the libunity ms for today [08:48] but you are kamstrup and you bump the soname! :) [08:48] so, it makes my life a little easier! [08:48] kamstrup: excellent :) [08:48] didrocks: i bump sonames like you eat peas! [08:48] heh :-) [08:48] not sure that's a good thing, byt wtf :-) [08:48] * didrocks waits for libunity42 [08:50] \o/ [08:56] kamstrup: do you think you can make some release early? [08:56] didrocks: I think so, maybe around 12 CET? [08:56] kamstrup: sound good [08:57] didrocks: that gives me a little time to dogfood it - or I can do it earlier, but without dogfooding... [08:57] kamstrup: well, give it some test with the current unity first :) [08:57] k [08:57] normally, the signals should be ignored [08:57] but better to check ;) === klattimer1 is now known as klattimer === daker_ is now known as daker [09:51] didrocks: do you know if the workspace switcher icon has changed this week? [09:51] didrocks: after an update I get the old pink one in Unity 2D now [09:52] Kaleo: yeah, same here [09:52] didrocks: same in Unity? [09:52] Kaleo: it's in the theme, check with sladen [09:52] Kaleo: right [09:52] didrocks: thanks for confirming [09:52] yw :) [09:53] didrocks: do you know if you have a bug report? we have https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity-2d/+bug/751450 [09:53] Ubuntu bug 751450 in unity-2d "[launcher] icon for workspace switcher incorrect (back to old pink one)" [Critical,Confirmed] [09:53] Kaleo: we don't IIRC [09:53] Kaleo: it got reverted from Humanity as it needs to go into unity-asset-pool/ubuntu-mono instead [09:54] sladen: does that mean we will have to change the code? [09:56] Kaleo: only https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/750471 which apparently isn't happening in all cases where an Icon is requested from Gtk+ [09:56] Ubuntu bug 750471 in unity (Ubuntu) "Ensure Unity prioritises icon loading from Unity-icon-theme" [Undecided,New] [09:57] sladen: do you also have a bug report regarding the upload to unity-asset-pool/ubuntu-mono ? [10:00] sladen: also, do you know who is going to be in charge of fixing the bold fonts in qt apps introduced recently? #744812 #741862 [10:01] sladen: I replied to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-mono/+bug/752607 too [10:01] Ubuntu bug 752607 in ubuntu-mono (Ubuntu) "start-here SVG icons do not load in Qt applications" [Undecided,New] [10:07] bah, firefox doesn't use the overlay scrollbars [10:15] Kaleo: Qt font is bug #741862 ; Icon upload is bug #745647 [10:15] Launchpad bug 741862 in unity-2d "Default interface font is too bold in all Qt4 applications" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/741862 [10:15] Launchpad bug 745647 in Ayatana Design "Feature Freeze Exception: corrected Unity icon assets" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/745647 [10:16] sladen: thans [10:16] k [10:16] sladen: do you know who is going to be in charge of bug #741862 ? [10:16] Launchpad bug 741862 in unity-2d "Default interface font is too bold in all Qt4 applications" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/741862 [10:17] Kaleo: I don't have a solution. The worst case is that if it's not fixed, we drop the Light and Medium weights from ttf-ubuntu-font-family until post release [10:17] ok [10:17] sladen: but are you in charge? [10:21] Kaleo: since it's semi font-related, I fear so [10:23] I have two email addresses associated with my launchpad account. i've recently subscribed to the ayatana-dev mailing list. i would like to be able to both post and receive mails from my codethink account. but it seems if i try and send from my codethink account, the mails bounce. if i send from the gmail account it works fine, but the mails go to the codethink one. does anyone know how to get launchpad to work with a specific mail [10:23] address if you have more than one? === kklimonda is now known as Guest19588 === Guest19588 is now known as kklimonda [10:27] sladen: sorry about that, if I can help in any way, please let me know [10:27] the dock really needs a show desktop button heh [10:39] <\sh> any plans on upgrading libappindicator from 0.2.x to 0.3 (before natty release)? or is 0.3 targeted for 11.10? [10:40] <\sh> furthermore the python example on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopExperienceTeam/ApplicationIndicators doesn't work on natty...actually it doesn't show the indicator-messages-new icon anymore, it worked on maverick.. === API is now known as apinheiro [10:59] didrocks: I think you already distropatched the updated assets into u-p-f right? There has been no changes since last week at least [10:59] last change was 24-03-2011 [11:00] r169 [11:00] kamstrup: I didn't distro-patch, I pushed that in trunk [11:01] isn't it the right icon? [11:01] I think sladen should have a new update [11:01] but the trunk should be the current icon, let me check [11:02] kamstrup: confirmed, icons are right :) (and I cherry-picked them in the packaging) [11:16] didrocks: ok, seems it's just libunity and u-p-a today then [11:17] kamstrup: and so, rebuild u-p-f and all other rdepends :) [11:17] didrocks: yeah, that'll be your headache, i'll be slacking off while you're at it :-D [11:18] kamstrup: you know how I can avoid that headache? :-) [11:18] /quit [11:18] hehe [11:18] ^ it's just easy on IRC! :) [11:18] i'll fetch coffee for you and give you a back rub [11:19] heh :) [11:19] ok, less talk, more tarball rolling [11:19] $ apt-cache rdepends libunity3 | wc -l [11:19] 14 [11:19] ?! [11:19] hum, not fun! [11:19] * kamstrup had no idea it was that many [11:19] 8 real libunity rdepends [11:19] (one you removed dbgsym, -dev, gir-) [11:20] seb128: do you want to play a fun game? :) [11:20] didrocks, not really? ;-) [11:20] haha [11:20] didrocks, you should have notice I'm not a fun guy ;-) [11:20] didrocks, do you change soname and need rebuilds? [11:20] seb128: come on! you always tell that you want to handle unity things as well :p [11:21] didrocks: I guess you didn't count in the rdeps of gir1.2-unity-3.0? [11:21] seb128: yeah, kamstrup is a good upstream :) [11:21] he bumps soname! [11:21] kamstrup: yeah, for the 8 real ones [11:21] kamstrup, does the gir rdepends actually need an update? [11:21] not sure [11:21] probably not... [11:22] well, it's generated by libunity anyway… [11:22] i mean, they could break at runtime, but rebuilding them wouldn't catch that unless they have some tests suites to catch a changing libunity [11:22] yeah, anyway, it will be rebuilt with libunity [11:23] kamstrup: so libunity4, isn't it? [11:23] yes [11:23] * didrocks prepares rdepends meanwhile [11:25] kamstrup: what's the version? 4.0.0 [11:25] or stil 3.8.4 to follow unity? [11:25] still* [11:25] didrocks: I stick to the Unity versioning scheme [11:25] ok :) [11:25] didrocks: otherwise we'd also break the VAPI and GIR users etc [11:26] => world collapses [11:26] zomg! [11:28] didrocks: https://launchpad.net/libunity/3.0/3.8.4 [11:29] kamstrup: thanks! [11:30] kamstrup: do you have a milestone with all the bugs? ;) [11:30] didrocks: there are only the 3 bug fixes you see there [11:30] didrocks: or do you mean all the Unity Foundations bugs? [11:30] or? [11:31] kamstrup: ok, I shouldn't have asked, all is updated and cleaned, I don't have to dig myself :-) [11:32] kamstrup: bug #747677 is fix committed though? [11:32] Launchpad bug 747677 in Ubuntu One Control Panel "[FFE] Need API to set urgency from background process" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/747677 [11:32] kamstrup: because the branch is set to ": Needs Fixing", ,so you didn't remove the API? [11:34] didrocks: no the branch was merged as is [11:34] kamstrup: oh ok, missed that email then :) [11:34] yeah, confirmed in the VCS [11:34] didrocks: it's the unity branch, not the libunity branch, i marked as needsfixing [11:34] like the "WARNING", can you make it red? :p [11:35] oh right [11:35] didrocks: WARNING [11:35] heh, it has to come to "blink" at some point! :) [11:35] haha [11:35] that or marquee [11:38] heh [11:38] my mind's eye is going blind [11:52] kamstrup: app places? :) [11:54] didrocks: there you go https://launchpad.net/unity-place-applications/trunk/0.2.46 [11:54] kamstrup: excellent \o/ [11:56] kamstrup: you screwed a merge btw, I have proof now! :) [11:57] kamstrup: see rev 200.1.1, that was trunk :) [11:58] didrocks: huah?! how did that happen?! [11:58] kamstrup: I think you didn't bzr pull before merging :) [11:58] didrocks: ah, maybe i forgot to pull beofre I merged [11:58] didrocks: sorry dude [11:58] right [11:58] kamstrup: no worry ;) [11:59] nice work on the url launch [11:59] didrocks: i bet you worked many a sleepless night on 200.1.1 [11:59] ;-) [12:00] kamstrup: yeah, it was days and days of tortures :-) [12:00] didrocks: yeah, with Bilal's branch it was just a regex away [12:00] didrocks: indeed! [12:05] kamstrup: all looks good, uploading and rebuilding rdepends! :) [12:06] sweet! === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [12:35] heya there, anyone knows how to add amsn to the new unity systray on natty? [12:49] heya there, anyone knows how to add amsn to the new unity systray on natty? [12:51] no clue here [12:53] it's a bit annoying, because I can't add amsn, or skype [12:55] skype should be non ? [12:56] it should be.. dont know why it isnt @S [12:56] :S [12:57] kazade: Nice! [12:57] gsettings get com.canonical.Unity.Panel systray-whitelist ... ['JavaEmbeddedFrame', 'Mumble', 'Wine', 'Skype', 'hp-systray'] [13:09] good day all === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow === andrea_ is now known as AndreaAzzarone === alecu is now known as alecu1 [14:17] dbarth: looks like me and mterry fixed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-geonames/+bug/729022 [14:17] Ubuntu bug 729022 in Ubuntu Geonames "Locations in the settings are not localized" [Undecided,In progress] [14:19] seb128: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-geonames/+bug/729022 looks like we fixed :D [14:19] Ubuntu bug 729022 in Ubuntu Geonames "Locations in the settings are not localized" [Undecided,In progress] [14:19] klattimer, hey [14:19] way to go! [14:20] tough stuff, sphinx, sql and a lot of slow queries later [14:21] it needs a server rollout as well to be working? === seb128_ is now known as seb128 [14:35] klattimer, nice work on the indicator btw ;-) [14:36] thanks [14:36] it's been hard [14:36] but worth it I think [14:36] a grid menu layout would have made it better I think [14:37] the keyboard stuff is a real thorn it it [14:37] in it [14:45] zniavre: checkout bug 711561 now ;) [14:45] Launchpad bug 711561 in unity (Ubuntu) "Compiz won't allow Desktop Cube plugin to load with unity" [Wishlist,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/711561 [14:57] kenvandine, indicator-application has only a one character change in trunk. And I need to get some other things fixed in it. Distro patch for today? [14:58] sure [14:58] one character...haha [14:59] kenvandine, It changes the order of nm-applet. [14:59] kenvandine, Visually it's a big change :-) === zyga is now known as zyga-food [15:36] kamstrup, ping [15:37] kenvandine: pongo [15:37] hey, question about dee [15:37] so i know you can get_schema to get the types in an array [15:37] but is there anyway to get more info about what is in those? [15:38] i am thinking about a way for clients to discover the schema and actual data [15:38] i assume right now we have to have maybe a separate model or interface that returns a list of what is in each field for a mapping [15:40] get_schema returns (s,s,s,u,s,s) i would love a get_schema_details that returned (name, message, url, time, stream, service) [15:40] and the owner of the model would set that with the schema [15:42] kamstrup, i did get gwibber-service to create a model for a stream last night, and made njpatel's StreamView widget display it in the new client :) [15:43] kenvandine: there's a bug on this if I understand you correct - basically support for "named" columns like traditional relational dbs [15:43] ? [15:43] yeah [15:43] because that could also be used to implement some awesome ORM like features for Python and QML [15:43] so i can deal better with changing the schema without needing to change everything that subscribes to it [15:43] indeed [15:44] alternatively we implement this purely in Python on top of Dee as is [15:44] so all the client needs to know is it needs a name, account, message, url, and icon [15:44] although that's less cool [15:44] it subscribes to the model, and programatically figures out which columns is which [15:45] right [15:45] that can't be hard to implement though? [15:45] not really no [15:46] ok, and it sounds useful right? [15:46] it may require a protocol change though, if we wanna toss the names across the bus as well [15:47] yeah, so maybe for oneiric :) [15:47] yes [15:47] excellent [15:47] also we could consider an ABI break to have proper integration in the API instaed grafting it on [15:47] then i'll plan for that in the client [15:47] that would be nice too [15:48] not sure how this would map to the other languages [15:48] but perhaps a get_schema_map [15:48] that returned something like a dictionary [15:49] i guess an array of arrays? [15:49] Yeah, maybe typedef struct { gchar *column_name; GVariantType *column_type; } DeeColumnSpec; [15:49] and perhaps in the python overrides we could bolt on an object around that to make it super awesome [15:50] and then change set_schema() to take a DeeColumnSpec[] [15:50] but dunno [15:50] ok [15:50] well glad you are already thinking about it [15:50] imo it is a must have feature [15:50] otherwise we need a way to version the models or something [15:51] lots of options, i just wanna keep the API as simple and straight forward as possible :-) So maybe DeeColumnSpec is over the top... [15:51] indeed [15:51] kamstrup, do you have a road map of some sort for dee? [15:51] kenvandine: it's also becoming evident to me that linking models by row-offset with sections and groups is a bad idea [15:51] or is it all bugs in lp? [15:51] kenvandine: I just use dee bugs [15:52] ok [15:52] why is that bad? [15:52] wait... linking models? [15:53] maybe i didn't understand something there... how are they linked? [15:53] kenvandine: like in results_model we specify the group with an integer that is the row offset into the groups model [15:54] oh [15:54] yeah, that will cause pain [15:54] kenvandine: one problem: Unity wants to select sections from the Dash homescreen. It does that by hardcoding section values for each place and then calling SetActiveSection(section) over dbus [15:55] but if I now wanna re-sort my sections according to locale or something [15:55] ==> madness ensues [15:55] right [15:55] so some sort of "primary key" concept would be handy [15:55] and use that for linking [15:55] interesting [15:56] so what unity does then is link all these models together based on off-sets? [15:56] yes [15:56] and then down inside my lens i do something similar [15:56] really it's exactly like arelational db [15:56] yes [15:56] so it all bubbles up to your big one in unity [15:56] exactemundo [15:57] makes total sense... i hadn't really thought about how it worked outside of my lens :) [15:57] yeah, so relying on a offset is going to paint us into a corner... [15:58] so in some sense dee, places, and unity hand code what a relational db usually gives you [15:58] so my plan was to push a little of that logic into dee [15:58] by introducing a PK concept of some sort [15:58] the danger here is making the API to complex [15:58] i really really wanna KIS [15:58] understand [15:59] the nice thing though, in the case of unity, i really only have to worry about my little area [15:59] and you just consume that [15:59] yeah [15:59] which is very cool [15:59] yeah, you just implement the model in classic mvc [15:59] but it probably needs to be a little more dynamic [15:59] like the problem of sorting how you get results in the dash [16:00] you do that in the order you know about the lenses right? [16:00] s/results/groups/ [16:01] ideally that should be more programmatic, based on learned behavior [16:02] so if i frequently choose launching an application from my search result...those should bubble up to the top [16:02] but you couldn't do that as it is today, right? === smspillaz is now known as smspillaz|zzz [17:25] lamalex, Hi! what do i do with bugs with no retraced stacktrace plus not reproduce able? [17:26] om26er, i usually just mark them invalid and tell the user why and to please report again if it happens [17:29] om26er, what are you working on? [17:30] lamalex, NEW [17:30] super === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|afk [17:31] there should be a stock reply for that [18:12] om26er, what new queue are you doing? [18:12] it doesn't seem like the numbers are going down fast enough for the two of us to both be working on it simultaneously [18:13] do you do upstream unity or source package? [18:13] i am doing upstream bugs lamalex [18:13] its going down [18:18] lamalex, so I generally leave the multi-monitor bugs as they are, should there be a tag for multi-monitor issues? [18:18] om26er, we don't have one but i'm not opposed to using one [18:19] how about "multimonitor" [18:19] :P [18:19] i was going for multi-m but yeah multimonitor would be fine [18:20] yeah let's do the less ambiguous one === daker is now known as daker_ === alecu is now known as alecu1 === sense_ is now known as sense [19:35] kenvandine, indicator-application is my last there. [19:35] ok [19:38] tedg: that's going to fix the stub menus, right? [19:39] nhaines, That's the indicator-appmenu and unity releases. But, yes, today's release should fix those. [19:40] yay === zyga-food is now known as zyga [20:01] Has anyone been getting a freeze lately when maximising a window? [20:02] It happened twice today. [20:17] which package should I mark as affected/assign for issues related to global menu? Thanks === hggdh_ is now known as hggdh [20:18] kamusin, Depends on the issue :-) [20:20] tedg, there is an option with banshee that doesn't work in global menu, however it works fine with classic desktop [20:20] star thingy? [20:20] kamusin, That's probably dbusmenu [20:20] om26er, ;) [20:21] yes it is, rating songs with global menu just don't go [20:22] bug 626808 could be related [20:22] Launchpad bug 626808 in appmenu-gtk (Ubuntu) "empathy smiley list looks different with appmenu" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/626808 [20:22] grid is not supported in appmenu it seems [20:24] thank you om26er , you got the clue :P [20:25] * om26er unassigns bratsche as assignee [20:27] and the trick is assign it to yourself and then unassign, #launchpad [20:28] is there a way to sort software center apps rating wise? === MacSlow|afk is now known as MacSlow === godbyk-feynman is now known as godbyk [21:10] anyone running dual monitors with the nvidia binary driver and not able to move windows from the main screen (where the launcher is) to the other? i try to move windows to the second screen and they "stick/snap" to the side so you can show windows side-by-side [21:12] kind of makes having dual monitors pointless ;) [21:30] after todays unity update, bfb is behaving in strange way...clicking it brings dash but it doesn't go away when i click on bfb again..... [21:30] is this a feature? [21:36] Dart, i am seeing the same thing [21:37] kenvandine, oh its a bug? [21:37] i think so [21:37] please file it [21:37] all right..doing it now [21:37] thx [21:43] goes away immediately here [21:48] i just filed this Bug #754044 [21:48] Launchpad bug 754044 in unity "After unity 3.8.4 update, clicking on bfb triggers the dash menu but nothing happens when we click again on bfb" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/754044 [21:58] DBO, goes away for me on ESC [21:58] good evening [21:58] but not clicking on the bfb [21:59] oh I see [21:59] what about clicking off? [21:59] like anywhere else on the screen [21:59] yeah [21:59] that works [21:59] i do not know if its the good place , but it seems compiz grid get something wrong since last update > no color [21:59] I've had two freezes today when I tried to maximise a window. [21:59] I'm afraid of clicking that button. [22:01] Omega that s true :o) [22:01] just tried just relog [22:01] Have you had that too? [22:02] yep [22:02] Alright, I'll report but I don't have a crash (it just freezes) [22:02] if you got good english you must fil a report [22:03] I don't think that should stop anyone, if we can understand you, it's good enough! [22:06] https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/754063 [22:06] Ubuntu bug 754063 in unity "System freezes when maximize button is clicked" [Undecided,New] [22:06] Can you confirm it zniavre? [22:07] i clicked on affected bug [22:07] hey that s strange it does not freeze now [22:08] Omega, use gdb to get a backtrace from the point of the freeze [22:09] Sadly, I have never used gdb before ): [22:10] Why won't autohide hide my launcher? :( [22:11] Daekdroom, use a Qt app recently? [22:13] DBO, i used gdb gedit but it froze before the gdb output do you know if i can find the debug output in my comp now? [22:14] zniavre, ah you need to gdb up compiz, not gedit [22:14] and you should run it from a TTY [22:14] ho ok [22:15] DBO, all the time :P [22:17] Daekdroom, its stuck out because Qt is a bastard toolkit [22:17] DBO: Can you set an appropriate importance to the bug pretty please? :) [22:17] I fixed that in the next release [22:17] Omega, what bug? [22:17] link me? [22:17] https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/754063 [22:17] Ubuntu bug 754063 in unity "System freezes when maximize button is clicked" [Undecided,Confirmed] [22:18] Also, I marked it as confirmed after zniavre said it also affected him. [22:18] DBO, I see, is there a bug report about qt apps losing appmenu support every time unity is restarted? [22:18] Daekdroom, thats Qt being herpa-derpa [22:18] those guys have then tendancy to assume nothing ever goes wrong [22:18] which I find amusing [22:18] DBO sorry im not able to export gdb compiz from tty1 [22:19] zniavre, (gdb) set logging file /tmp/logfile [22:19] zniavre, (gdb) set logging on [22:19] then get the br [22:19] erm [22:19] bt [22:19] and it will pop up in that file [22:19] :) [22:21] My first critical bug, it seemed just days ago all my bugs were duplicates, I grew up so fast. [22:22] Program exited with code 01. :o( something wrong (must be myself ) [22:23] zniavre, break on _exit [22:23] then try agian [22:23] zniavre, [22:23]