[00:06] ooki2day_: you can download individual packages from launchpad.net, that's not usually what you want [00:08] Riddel: but i want to add ppa for natty at kpackagekit) [00:10] maybe it's will available when natty will not beta?))) [00:13] so, I was install gnash and now I can't wach video((( [00:18] gnash isnt that well-developed yet [00:20] been there before, on paper, it sounds like a delightful solution, the end to all flash hassle. i do applaud their efforts, but alas, gnash is no where near ready to be THEE flash player on linux [00:23] what is "THEE""? can't traslate))) [00:24] a big "the" :P [00:24] hehe) [00:45] hey everyone [00:45] anyone know what this means? [00:45] "Configuration file "/tmp/0997553718/.kde/share/config/knotifyrc" not writable. Please Contact your system administrator. === yofel_ is now known as yofel [00:46] did you run any GUI program with sudo? [00:46] make sudo [00:46] and which program is making this sentence? [00:47] I get it at bootup [00:47] hello [00:47] before I even get the login screen I think [00:48] brb [00:56] I'm back sorry about that [00:59] open a terminal, and run this: ls -la /tmp/0997553718/.kde/share/config/knotifyrc [00:59] and tell me what it says [01:01] ls: cannot access /tmp/0997553718/.kde/share/config/knotifyrc: No such file or directory [01:01] thats what I got back - sudo? [01:02] it says its a configuration file just [01:02] whats that meant to do... show whats accessing it or something? [01:03] ls -la /tmp/0997553718 [01:03] try this ^^^ [01:05] same thing [01:05] no such file or directory [01:05] hold on I'm gonna try browse to it [01:05] What's the problem? [01:06] Ktanner, he has a boot message about a non-existing file in a non-existing directory, being unwritable, it seems :S [01:06] "Configuration file "/tmp/0997553718/.kde/share/config/knotifyrc" not writable. Please Contact your system administrator. [01:07] uhm... hold on... is /tmp itself writable? [01:07] is there way to apply folder settings to Dolphin globally to affect all folders? [01:07] or even readable for the matter [01:07] how do you get ubottu or whatever to show the paste address... you know for images etc? [01:07] !paste [01:07] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [01:07] oh got it :) [01:07] nevermind [01:08] is it .ic_freeze or something along the lines of that? KDE wouldnt let me log in once because some file that didn't exist/the directory didn't exist and it couldn't recreate it. I used a console (ctr+alt+F8) and recreated a blank file of the name that it said, then it was able to log in again :) [01:08] It used to happen to me alot for some reason [01:09] katsrc: in dolphin, view, view properties, change setting, choose "all folders", apply [01:09] Anyone here know anything about the ath5k driver and possibly Netgear routers? [01:09] Hamra: thanks [01:11] does upgrading to the next version do anything other than change sources.list to the next set of repos? [01:15] Walzmy_: change the sources, which in turns forces the upgrading of all pakcages to the new repos [01:16] Hamra: right. I was just wondering if it did anything else behind the scenes to make everything smooth [01:17] nope, that's about all of it :) [01:17] * Walzmy_ nods [01:18] I'm thinking I'm going to upgrade to 10.11 this evening to get ready for 11.04 later on [01:19] whens the next stable version released again? [01:19] 28th [01:20] S74rk7: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyReleaseSchedule [01:22] thanking you [01:29] Can some of you take a look at this? http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3116253.0 Thanks in advance if ya do [01:35] Ktanner: I don't have netgear but I can't use wireless either [01:36] Ktanner: it worked previous to 10.04, but not after I upgraded to 10.04 [01:39] Ktanner: Exactly! Mine worked around that time too. Linux Mint 8 KDE worked/works perfectly with wifi, but anything newer based on ubuntu fails. It attempts too connect, then just gives up. No errors [01:40] I was planing on upgrading to 10.11 this evening and to 11.04 next month, hoping that would fix it [01:41] newer kernel and all [01:41] Hmm, so for some reason, I cannot log into my KDE session... It states my login is wrong. I changed the password using `passwd` from a tty, and it still won't log in. Any ideas? [01:42] navatwo: Does the splash screen just freeze up for no reason? [01:42] no [01:42] It says `login error` [01:42] walzmy_: I'll try upgrading too. But so far no upgrade has helped me =/ [01:42] login failed* [01:43] Ktanner: which version are you on now? [01:43] navatwo: try logging into the root account. If you haven't yet, give Root a password via a tty using the passwd command, e.g.: "sudo passwd root" [01:44] navatwo: can you login via command and then startx? [01:44] Walzmy_: I just installed Kubuntu 10.04 LTS today. I've used it before, and the latest Kubuntu 10.10. I don't use 10.10 though as I get X Configuration errors with KDE 4.5.4 and 4.6+ [01:44] Ktanner: I set my new password via a root account [01:44] Walzmy_: I will try [01:45] Walzmy_: I stopped KDE and restarted x [01:46] I have a black screen though..... with a mouse [01:46] no panel or anything [01:47] navatwo: Sounds like kdm didn't restart. Goto a tty, login as root, then type sudo kdm [01:48] Ktanner: nothing. [01:48] and I can not connect to the internet on this desktop right now [01:48] no network card >.< [01:49] I've heard something about a command called "kde_start" or "kde-start" but I'm not sure [01:51] Ktanner: kdeinit [01:51] it doesnt do anything [01:52] navatwo: what version of KDE and Kubuntu is it? === ruben is now known as Guest24947 [01:56] 10.10 and most recent kde Ktanner [01:57] Were you able to log in before? Or is this a fresh install? [01:57] yes, no [01:58] Did you install any packages or update before this happened? [01:59] wtf [01:59] I just re changed the password and it worked.. to log me in at least [01:59] lol [01:59] now the k session isn't loadming.. [02:00] Its hanging on the splash screen [02:00] GRRR [02:00] I NEED TO USE THIS COMPUTER :( [02:00] navatwo: why not use? [02:00] 10.04? [02:00] tertl3: I can't really change that at the moment.. [02:00] :/ === kris_ is now known as Guest68148 [02:01] No network connection on the tower because my onboard network card decided it was done with its life.. >.> [02:01] navatwo: click the splash screen, sometimes if there's a hangup, it's because there's a message behind the splash screen. Clicking (usually) makes the splash screen go away === Guest68148 is now known as PhillyKingston [02:02] Nope.. [02:03] I want to update the computer but I'm waiting for a new ethernet card to get here.. [02:03] navatwo: sorry, i had to step awau [02:03] away [02:03] navatwo: after login are you getting a black screen? [02:04] Walzmy_: yes [02:04] ooo [02:04] it just gave me an error\ [02:04] I had that happen one time when KDE was trying to use advanced graphics but I did not have the propritary driver installed [02:04] "KDE is unable to start, No write access to '~/.ICEauthority' [02:05] ^^^ Goto a tty, and search for that file in your Home folder somewhere! I remember this happeneing to me MANY times! use the chown command on it and switch ownership to you [02:08] okay [02:09] loaded fine now >.< [02:10] good :D [02:10] I've had that issue since KDE 4.1 [02:11] weird [02:11] what issue? [02:12] network manager? [02:12] I've never understood it. And it if you look at that file, it's 0 bytes, and there's literally nothing in it. It's a completely blank file all the time and it can cause KDE not to work, lol [02:12] tertl3: navatwo "KDE is unable to start, No write access to '~/.ICEauthority' [02:13] oh, I never had that happen before? [02:13] He couldn't log in because of that. I've heard of it, so I'm glad I'm here :D [02:14] :) [02:15] whcih KDE version is currently in 10.04? [02:16] I believe it's KDE 4.4.x tertl3 [02:17] ok, thanks [02:18] However they do release packages for later versions of KDE, such as 4.5.4 and 4.6 [02:19] how can you get 4.6 in 10.04? [02:19] If I could do that, I might not bother upgrading the entire version [02:19] Here ya go: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.6.1 [02:20] thankyouverymuch [02:21] Ktanner: that's just for 10.10 users, not 10.04 [02:22] I noticed that. I think the reason for this is because 10.04 is meant to be a Long Term Release version. In other words, installing the latest desktop (as expected) may cause instability issues. So they don't want you installing something that may hurt the current system. [02:24] hey guys could knotifyrc be something to do with my "Message indicator" ... the little applet that keeps your chat clients etc listed under [02:24] You'll also notice that it's in the Kubuntu Backports repository. That repository is only for certain software such as KDE. In this way, they can help prevent Kubuntu 10.04 from accidentally updating packages that it may prove fatal to the system. [02:24] WARNING: do NOT use software update while this repository is active. IT CAN SCREW UP EVERYTHING (I've done it lol) [02:25] I have setup a notification to light up when my name has been typed somewhere in irc... but I'm just noticing that its lighting solid green... and want seem to change [02:25] S74rk7: Knotify is the message notification system so yes, the applet shows messages from knotify. [02:26] Ktanner: yeah. I'm going to go ahead and do the updates, I didn't see any reason to get off of LTS before, but with 11.04 I think it's worth it [02:26] ahhh.. so how do I kill it and restart it in konsole? [02:27] S74rk7: I can't remember the kill command for a terminal. Hit CTRL+Escape, look for Knotify and click End Process. Then hit ALT+F2 and simply type Knotify [02:28] Walzmy: From the sounds of it, 11.04 is (possibly) an LTS release. I'm not sure though, I really haven't kept up with Kubuntu too much the past month [02:28] Walzmy: Are planning on doing it through KPackageKit or an iso/disc? [02:30] Ktanner: it's not and KPackageKit [02:31] or possibly CLI, but some version of apt :) [02:31] Walzmy_: May I recommend using a disc? lol I've had Kubuntu crash while using Kpackagekit update D: [02:31] meh. ain'tskeert [02:32] haha [02:33] if it does lock up, I know how to fix it. Think I've done it once before [02:35] Walzmy_: really? Any specific trick? I've had older versions of KDE lock up constantly (mainly 4.3) [02:35] Ktanner: I killed knotify4 in processes using "System Monitor" but it just seems to restart itself again anyway.... is that not odd... [02:35] what else is knotify tied into that would restart the service? [02:36] it's part of the base system that tells you all your info. Its going to get restarted like that [02:36] S74rk7: Considering it's a system service I'm not surprised :) You may be able to disable it in the System Preferences, under the Advanced tab, there should be a preference pane called Services [02:36] Ktanner: I've got my 10.04 disk laying here. If I need to, I can reload it on my / partition [02:36] ls [02:36] oops [02:37] Oh, well, that's not much of a solution lol [02:37] it's more of what you are forced to do if it fails XD [02:37] right [02:38] but I don't wanna download / burn a CD [02:38] I'd love to not even have an optical drive, I'm about put off with the things [02:39] Ktanner: its cured the message indicator... its not a solid green anymore :) thanks [02:39] True, I'm starting to run out of DVD's, and I'd rather not waste CD's. Speaking of optical drive issues, It took me forever to get an Apple SuperDrive from my old PowerMac G4 that could read DVD's, and it was defective -_- At least they sent a new one that works now [02:39] S74rk7: no problem :) [02:40] Ktanner: think you'd know anything about this... "Configuration file "/tmp/0997553718/.kde/share/config/knotifyrc" not writable. Please Contact your system administrator. [02:40] its what started this whole thing... been getting it at boot up.. [02:41] Well, try this, open a terminal and type "sudo chown yourusernamehere /tmp/0997553718/.kde/share/config/knotifyrc" without quotations [02:41] grr.. using a netbook while my desktop sits beside me is just plain annoying. [02:43] the directory 09975553718/ doesnt even exsist in tmp... is there a log file or something I could go in and see what exactly is looking for it? [02:44] S74rk7: the partition /tmp lives on is not full is it? Full hard drives will give Linux fits [02:44] * Walzmy_ speaks from experience [02:44] oooohhhh... [02:44] oh woops, here try this then lol: "sudo chown yourusernamehere /Home/yourusernamehere/.kde/share/config/knotifyrc" without quotations [02:45] Walzmy_: no unfortunately... still 40some odd gb left... [02:46] I was hoping that was going to prove to be it... [02:46] lol [02:46] lol [02:49] Walzmy_: thats a good one to remember though mate... "the partition /tmp lives on is not full is it? Full hard drives give Linux fits" thanks :) [02:50] check this out... :) this is what I'm getting ... at boot up as well after that msg about knotifyrc ... http://imagebin.org/146949 [02:50] S74rk7: Just a fact: Both Linux and Mac OS X have an odd file system in which when a file is written to disk, it writes AWAY from other files so that if the file ever expands, it has room to do so (without getting fragmented like on Windows). The downside to this is it causes problems if you get under about 20% disk space [02:51] Ktanner: Nice.... starting to get the idea how EXT works now... [02:52] people were telling me how much EXT4 rocked as I was asking before how to defrag n all that... [02:52] said theres no need to under linux .. the EXT formating doesnt get fragmented... [02:53] I was always puzzled as to how it work but forgot to ever read up on it - thanks [02:54] S74rk7: Wow, I've never seen that happen! Both those processes on mine are always at 0%. And yup, defragging is not an issue with EXT or HFS+ :) Apple and Linus Torvalds had the right idea. FAT and NTFS write every file one after the other, so lets say you made a text file. Windows will write it to the disc, then you download a picture, it well get written RIGHT up next to the txt file. Then, if you type into the text document and ma [02:54] Windows is forced to write the new chunk of the file AFTER any file that's newer. That's what fragmenting is, and it slows the comp down because it has to find every single chunk of the file before it can open it [02:57] yeah I get the fragmentation thing - but like you said it looks like thats the way forward anyway with formats... makes sense :) thanks for the info [02:58] who came up with it all first? [02:58] I'm pretty positive this is where I learned it: http://www.itworld.com/nls_unixfrag040929 [02:58] :) [02:58] I would say Apple had the idea first [02:59] so are they mad at Linus now you think? [02:59] lol [03:00] HFS+ has been around since.. ohh, say, 1999? Came out with OS X. And last I knew, Apple supports the OpenSource community so I think it's all good ;) [03:01] Ktanner: I'm gonna bookmark that link there on itworld.com - thanks looks interesting [03:01] Cool :) Now that I think about it, it's also entirely possible that this type of file system was created alongside the Unix OS. I'm not sure what Unix used to use [03:01] wow what happened there? [03:02] You noticed all the disconnects too? lol [03:02] yeah... are we boring ? lol [03:02] lol probably XD [03:02] !netsplit [03:02] netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit [03:02] oh jeez [03:03] steady...... don't.... move.... [03:03] lol [03:03] huh, now there's a second FloodBot too.. [03:03] thats creepy XD [03:03] Quassel crashed [03:03] whats happening? lol [03:04] Ubottu said we should get popcorn and enjoy the show [03:04] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [03:05] Okay I get it. Two servers disconnected from each other, therefore, we can't see them anymore. Apparently we're connected to the same server though :) [03:05] Hello - I'm trying to use Skype, and my microphone is part of my USB webcam. I can hear audio output, but the mic doesn't seem to work. When I go into options the only option for the microphone is PulseAudio Server. Any ideas on how to fix this? [03:06] pm2: check alsamixer and make sure the capture devices arnt muted [03:06] Ktanner: yeah were you reading the link ubottu posted :) [03:06] lol yup [03:06] me too [03:06] lol [03:06] James147: Check Kmix, it has the mic channels as well [03:07] S74rk7: It's always fun to learn crap like that :D [03:07] lol [03:07] Would my USB webcam/mic show up as a sound device under alsa? [03:07] I'm really new to irc... I still get surprized by the bots [03:07] Ktanner: yeah definately :) [03:08] S74rk7: lol as am i. The bots kinda creep me out. It's like space odyssey 2001 haha [03:09] Ktanner: I haven't watched all of that movie yet! [03:09] Ktanner: only got about half way through.... might put it on... know I got it around here somewhere lol [03:09] S74rk7: in all honesty, I haven't seen any of it XD I just know about Hal lol [03:09] the bots here are very primitive... there are much smarter ones on other servers/channels [03:10] see thats the thing I'm still trying to get my head around... how to find and connect to other channels [03:10] I know the /join #channelname stuff etc... [03:10] but as far as finding new channels to join I'm goosed :) [03:11] I'm still confused how to connect to IRC channels and servers. I'm using Opera right now and it connected when I clicked the link on Kubuntu.org :) [03:11] Ktanner: who is it in space odyssey again? harrison ford? [03:11] Ktanner: Yeah Hal... that was his ship or something lol [03:11] S74rk7: /list will list them ^^ but its quite server heavy and not recomended... there is a bwtter way but i cannot remember it :) generally I just guess the channel name of the topic i am intrested, they are normally named after the project they are for :) [03:11] S74rk7: I believe so, I think I've heard that name mentioned along with that movie [03:11] well... more or less like websites... you dont just go randomely, you join a server/channel that you want to join [03:12] you enjoy a certain website, a certain program, a certain person... that thing has an IRC channel, they tell you the server/chanel, and you join them [03:12] Ktanner: theres clients you can use mate if you were interested ? [03:12] Ktanner: you can connect to irc servers from an irc client (like quassel which installed by default in kubuntu) ^^ there are also various web clients about :) [03:13] S74rk7: I'm using the IRC client built into Opera :) I tried using the KDE on Windows version of Konversation, but it asked for every single bit of info about the server and I gave up lol :d [03:14] Ktanner: quassel is simpler to use and by default connects to the freenode irc server [03:14] it did have that but I just gave up X3 [03:15] ^^ [03:15] And Opera just asked my name, and nickname then opened up and here I am :D lol [03:15] Ktanner: :) thats what quassel is ment to do though i dont know why it failed :S [03:16] lol [03:16] Ktanner: you say you where trying to run it on windows? [03:16] James147: yeah but the who server thing... so to search say for other channels do I not need to connect to the server first... before I run a search for channels? [03:17] James147: Yea, I have the KDE 4.4.5 on Windows. So I have some KDE apps that came with it [03:17] Ktanner: wow whats that mate? KDE on windows? [03:17] S74rk7: depends, you can connect to a server and list the channels... or you can search the internet for channels :) most projects/sites usually have an irc channel and will tell you (with the server they are on) on their web site [03:17] hello! can you create a beowulf cluster out of just two computers running the same distro of linux? [03:17] Ktanner: :) havent tryed that in a while, though it didnt work terribally well when i did :( [03:18] we have a server and the switches, but i was wondering if the number of computers in the cluster are important [03:18] S74rk7: You've never heard of it? They have versions of KDE for Mac OS X and Windows. The Windows one (if you want) can be the default shell instead of windows explorer [03:18] !beowulf [03:18] S74rk7: So you'd have the Plasma Desktop instead :D [03:18] Ktanner: wooow... [03:19] no idea what beowulf clusters are... :S [03:19] me neither? [03:19] :/ [03:19] Ktanner: that sounds cool ... [03:19] S74rk7: First time I tried it I was all "HOLY CRAP WHATS GOING ON"/ Because my desktop disappeared and all of a sudden KDE was sitting there! [03:19] I think I might install it on my girlfriends vista laptop and see what she does :D [03:19] kik [03:20] kik = lol [03:20] Fritz1793: I dont see why you wouldnt be able to ^^ normally the number of computer in a cluster dsnt matter [03:20] S74rk7: http://windows.kde.org/ [03:21] james147: thanks I just thought maybe there might have been some odd number needed to create a cluster [03:21] James147: cool mate - thanks for the info on servers and channels on irc btw :) [03:22] Fritz1793: from what i read on wikipedia it looks like you just need a server and any number of nodes :) [03:23] hey how come I cant seem to copy and paste text from from konversation or how do I go about saving part of the conversation on here? [03:23] lol ok, i was looking at that too, but i wasn't sure if that was a convenient bit of info they left off [03:23] S74rk7: Hm? [03:24] S74rk7: you cant copy? I seem to be able to :S [03:24] people always post great info and commands n stuff and I always forgot to copy and paste it... not when I highlight the text I cant see the option to copy... plus theres nothing in the options... [03:24] ctrl+c work you think ? [03:25] S74rk7: Well that's peculiar O.o [03:26] ctrl+c works on my client (quassel) [03:26] S74rk7: do you get a menu when you right click selected text? [03:26] yeah I got the menu... [03:26] couldnt see copy... [03:27] but control +C worked fine... [03:27] ctrl+c works on the Opera irc as well [03:27] thanks though guys :) [03:27] Ktanner: What you make of opera? [03:28] Opera has an IRC client? [03:28] S74rk7: My fav cross-platform web browser :D Super fast, stable and packed with neato stffs [03:28] And yup, it has an IRC client built in [03:28] S74rk7: http://imagebin.org/146959 ^^ i get that when i right clcik in konversation :S [03:29] plus a multi protocol instant messenger, file sharing capabilites [03:29] Ktanner: I'm still a chromium user, and also konquerer (dude called Daskreech introduced me to it) its cool - but I dont use it often as it hasnt been updated in a while and I'm a bit worried about security [03:29] never really knew that (irc bit). I did know that it functions quite well on windows 98 [03:29] James147: ooohhh.. :S [03:30] S74rk7: Konqueror gets updated alot, but the KHTML doesn't so it works horribly [03:30] James147: I guess I got another problem to add to the list... still haven't got much further with the last 2 from chatting here :) [03:30] lol [03:30] i use firefox, built from trunk source every month or so... love it [03:30] The IRC client's pretty cool. It highlights messages that mention your name and has smileys and stuff. Also a very simple/pleasing interface [03:30] and konqueror might not seem to be getting updated, but it uses kparts that are updated, and has perfect security [03:31] Ktanner: sort of like quassel then :D [03:31] I gave up on firefox due to speed. Especially on Windows, it was slow to open and slowed down my system [03:31] Fritz1793: lol yup [03:31] Ktanner: I think I'm gonna go check out Opera's IRC client now :) lol [03:31] Ktanner: konquror also has a webkit engin as of 4.5... or 4.6 i for get which :) [03:32] S74rk7: which problems are you having? [03:32] well... yeah, it takes a bunch of resources... but you get it all back in functionality... unless you dont really need that functionality... :P [03:34] James147: Kwebkits been there longer than that :) But you haven't been able to make it the default engine until KDE 4.6. Plus, it's kinda glitchy as well :/ [03:34] I get more functionality from Opera ^^ Opera Unite and Opera Sync are very useful to me ^^ [03:35] webkit has better rendering than khtml, but i find it slows down konquror too much [03:35] James147: http://imagebin.org/146949 <--- these... ended an knotify and it restarted itself and seems to be behaving (although I haven't rebooted) the kded or whatever wont seem to die... [03:35] Hamra: that it does :( [03:35] * James147 tends to use chromium :) [03:35] S74rk7: which version of kde? [03:36] the general *feel* of konqueror itself is not very friendly, and the UI (especially the status bar) needs to be a lot more informative about what's happening during page loads [03:37] Hamra: Yea. It seems to still do what older browsers like IE6 and Safari 1 used to do. Where it'll shoot up to 100% then just choose random percents until it's done loading [03:37] James147: Platform Version 4.6.1 (4.6.1) [03:37] hold on... [03:37] S74rk7: could you test a new profile and see if they suffer from the same problem [03:37] anyway... time for me to go... have a good day/night [03:38] I was in messing with the Kubuntu backports ppa earlier... and just installed Amarok from there... mine was crashing and being annoying when I was trying to remove music from my ipod... [03:38] has it updated KDE? What version comes out of the box on Kubuntu 10.10... [03:38] KDE 4.6 [03:38] S74rk7: it has, kubuntu comes with 4.5.X [03:39] ^^ 10.10 that is [03:39] hmph, coulda sworn it was 4.6. Then again, maybe I'm thinking of Linux Mint 10 KDE [03:39] Amarok was the only update I wanted to install from the backports ppa... then I turned the backports off again in my list of repos... why would it do that (update KDE) if I may ask? :) [03:40] Ktanner: are you using windows or linux yourself mate? [03:40] S74rk7: because amarok relays on kde libraries... which if you upgrade then you need to upgrade the rest of the kde libs [03:40] kde apps ^^ [03:40] As to my knowledge, the KDE backports are full of experimental beta things, so KPackageKit sees that the packages have slightly higher versions, and it wants to install them [03:41] At the moment, I'm on Windows Vista -_- But I love Linux and it's on a second partition [03:41] right... I should - so I was looking to just more or test up [03:41] sorry typo -- start again lol [03:41] Ktanner: no, backports if full of stable software that hadent been relased when that version of kubuntu was released [03:42] I was looking to just use the backports to update amarok-nothing more - but I was playing with something I didnt understand enough lol [03:42] now I've killed more of my system.. [03:42] S74rk7: you canot update just amarok :) it will mostlkily pull the updated for the rest of kde... [03:42] so the fact that I've installed the newer version of KDE... and its got things like Knotify which wasnt updated - I've caused all these problems :) [03:42] S74rk7: Ouch, trial and error :) I've killed..so..many..Linuxs... over... and over... and now I know how to prevent most of it!! :D [03:43] S74rk7: create a new user and see if they ahve the same problem [03:43] Well, honestly, updating just amarok is possible, so long as the package kde-full isn't installed [03:43] Ktanner: same :) but at least I find them easier to fix now :D [03:43] Ktanner: me too mate - I'm on my ....3rd install of Kubuntu - other installs were Ubuntu... as well lol [03:44] ok I'll try this new user thing... out [03:44] 3rd? I've gone through about 7 diff distros and I've broken/reinstalled each of them about 5 or 6 times XD [03:44] * S74rk7 shakes his head at himself... [03:44] lol [03:44] I'm a ejjit sometimes lol [03:44] lol, naaaahhhh, I just have more free time than you :D [03:45] see... I was thinking this... ahhh well... lets not be scared of doing things in linux.... cuz if you kill something... you can learn to fix it.... and thats how I'll learn the ways of the force with linux ;) lol [03:45] Linux Mint 7 KDE was a great experience. Highly unstable in so many ways so I learned a lot. Probably not the greatest first impression of linux for me though [03:45] You should try it out ;) [03:45] Any word on how to update to KDE 4.6.2? Sorry if this has been in previous threads. [03:46] Linux Mint? hmmm [03:46] that the nice green looking distro [03:46] bmw: the packages should be in the backports I think http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.6 [03:46] S74rk7: Ktanner: you may want to join #kubuntu-offtopic :) [03:47] James147: lol [03:47] lol [03:47] Ktanner: 4.6.1 is, not sure if 4.6.2 is in there quite yet [03:47] are we making too much noise? [03:47] James147: I'm not sure either, worth checking though :) [03:47] bmw: ^^ though it should be anytime with in the next few days :) just keep looking for updates and you should have it [03:48] Seemed that 4.6.2 was supposed to be released by today [03:48] Will do. Thanks. Have a nice night/day. [03:48] quit [03:48] S74rk7: its best to keep this channel quite so that questions dont get drowned out :) [03:49] lol true [03:49] James147: ahhh understood amigo.. I'll behave now :) [03:49] Okay so, the weird processes.. hmm.. [03:49] I'm creating this new profile to try out [03:50] Any chance it's because of too many apps running in the background? common issue on Windows haha [03:50] Ktanner: no, its a bug in the two software packages ^^ have seen it before... sometimes caused by a bad config file [03:51] James147: possibly one of the config files in ./tmp? [03:51] James147: should I really go back and install all the updates from the backports then... I take it my problems are starting to looked like their rooting back to me having Amarok up-to-date for KDE4.6 and the rest isnt... [03:51] Ktanner: normally one of the ones in ~/.kde hence the testing of a new user... it will create clean config files [03:52] anyway... new profile... [03:52] S74rk7: yeah, upgrading is normally the best thing to do [03:52] James147: True. [03:52] S74rk7: ^^ just sometimes you need to reset some settings :) [03:53] yup :) I use a cleaning tool called Onyx on OS X to clean config files every once in a while for that reason [03:54] Ktanner: tools like that wont help ^^ its probally not the caches that are the problem, but stored settings... which those programs dont touch as they normally contain user data that should be preserved [03:54] James147: I know they won't help, I'm not sure if there's even a tool like that for Linux, possibly BleachBit. But it could the caches and you know it ;) lol [03:55] Ktanner: there is sweeper for kde ^^ though it just clears caches and tmp files [03:55] oh that's right! I remember the Sweeper utility from Ubuntu gnome [03:58] ok so I got my new user profile created... can I do this by just switching users or would it be best to log off and back in the new profile? [03:59] S74rk7: logout and back in ^^ will be harder to tell as the processes from this users will still be eeating resources :) [03:59] It would probably be best to log off and into it. That way the system won't be bogged down [04:00] no probs thanks :) [04:00] * S74rk7 I'll be back! ;) === romulo is now known as melow [04:25] I'm back [04:26] James147 + Ktanner: yeah guys it was the same in a new user.... 100% cpu usage [04:26] and it wouldnt let me log back into my profile I'm using now [04:26] I had to reboot [04:26] and I got a new error :) [04:26] adding it to pastebin now [04:29] lol awesome [04:29] I know... eventful night huh [04:30]