| gmb | Dear gods, our mail notification system is utterly arcane. | 11:26 |
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| gmb | I feel like reimplementing it in Haskell just to make it make sense. | 11:27 |
| danilos | heh, surprise-surprise | 11:32 |
| danilos | if you said something like "reimplementing it in brainfuck to make it make sense", *then* I'd be worried :) | 11:33 |
| gary_poster | benji, hi. I was just thinking about your proposed wording. I don't feel fantastic, but better than I did yesterday afternoon anyway, so maybe my head is a bit clearer. My concern is that we need to convey that we are not stopping *all* emails from the team subscription, but *your* emails from the team subscriptions. | 12:53 |
| gary_poster | "Stop emails from this subscription" does not convey this to me--it is ambiguous/confusing. "Do not receive emails from this subscription" conveys the right message to me. | 12:53 |
| gary_poster | Perhaps your version could be adjusted to accommodate this concern. "Stop your emails from this subscription" might be OK. | 12:53 |
| benji | yeah, I had the same thought but figured context was enough to clarify; I'll add the "your" in there. | 12:55 |
| gmb | benji, gary_poster: If we're at all unclear about fuzzy wording I usually find mrevell to be good sounding board. | 13:10 |
| gary_poster | gmb, agreed. | 13:11 |
| gary_poster | bac, benji, danilos, gmb: please check over your kanban. call soon. | 13:25 |
| gmb | Ok | 13:26 |
| danilos | ack | 13:27 |
| benji | gary_poster: are comments on cards readily visible to you? | 13:27 |
| gary_poster | benji, no. if comments are important, maybe mention it in title ("see comments") | 13:28 |
| benji | they're not at the moment, but it seemed like a good place to put micro status updates | 13:28 |
| gary_poster | ack | 13:29 |
| benji | it would be nice if there were a chronological log of board activity that one could read to see what's happened lately | 13:30 |
| danilos | gary_poster, my mic has stopped working as well (I did play with settings this morning, loaded/unloaded kernel modules, so this time, a reboot *should* help) | 13:30 |
| * danilos goes for a reboot | 13:30 | |
| gary_poster | ok | 13:30 |
| * gary_poster waiting for danilos, in case anyone is wondering | 13:32 | |
| gary_poster | benji, there's an email interface...there's also supposed to be an RSS interface but I can't get it working yet, after seconds of trying. See the Options tab. | 13:32 |
| benji | gary_poster: oh, there is a log: http://launchpad.leankitkanban.com/Boards/History/14028610 | 13:32 |
| benji | but it doesn't seem to inlcude comments | 13:33 |
| danilos | gary_poster, ready | 13:35 |
| bac | sorry i'm muted and can't get it back | 13:37 |
| bac | gary_poster: ^^ | 13:37 |
| danilos | I can hear you guys | 13:40 |
| danilos | gary_poster, ^ | 13:40 |
| danilos | gary_poster, tests branch is getting up for review RSN, I'll be going on to descriptions stuff | 13:41 |
| danilos | gary_poster, it seems to be only volume related now :) | 13:41 |
| danilos | gary_poster, also, QA for "Add a subscriber" link is done, but that's obvious on the board I suppose, it also landed on both devel/db-devel which I assume you've seen as well :) | 13:42 |
| danilos | byeeeee :) | 13:43 |
| gary_poster | :-) | 13:45 |
| gary_poster | danilos, we never actually heard your voice | 13:45 |
| gary_poster | is that because when you turned your mic on and all our ears turned to jelly from the sound of the ocean you decided not to talk? | 13:45 |
| gary_poster | or because the mic is broken? | 13:46 |
| danilos | gary_poster, the "vumeter" in sound preferences seemed to pick it up correctly, but just the ocean was going the other way through skype I suppose :) | 13:46 |
| gary_poster | yeah, as far as we could tell :-) | 13:46 |
| danilos | gary_poster, ok, figured out the problem, the new headset mic has an on-off button that I left at off, skype test call sounds pretty good now | 13:55 |
| gary_poster | awesome danilos. Is this the new-new more expensive headset, or the merely-new cheaper headset? | 13:56 |
| danilos | gary_poster, the cheaper one, I never heard back from the guys where I ordered the more expensive one (it's probably the usual Serbian thing: they list it on the web site, but never actually stock it) | 13:57 |
| gary_poster | :-/ | 13:57 |
| gary_poster | but good news that the cheaper one is working :-) | 13:57 |
| danilos | so, I'll probably have to drop by a few stores to pick one up | 13:57 |
| gary_poster | k | 13:58 |
| danilos | gary_poster, heh, well, it's still a combination, headphone out is not working yet (apparently, one has to set a custom option for snd-hda-intel module, but the first attempt didn't work so I gave up on that :) | 13:58 |
| gary_poster | heh | 13:58 |
| gary_poster | ...so you are still motivated to get a replacement. gotcha. :-) | 13:59 |
| danilos | yeah | 13:59 |
| gmb | Wow: OSError: Could not allocate memory | 14:27 |
| gmb | Could be something to do with the 22 librarian instances hanging around for no good reason. | 14:27 |
| gary_poster | heh | 14:31 |
| gary_poster | gmb, Skype whenever you are ready. | 14:31 |
| gmb | gary_poster: Sure. Just give me a sec... | 14:32 |
| gary_poster | cool | 14:32 |
| gary_poster | https://staging.launchpad.net/launchpad/+subscriptions | 15:08 |
| gmb | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/haveged/+bug/569369 | 15:10 |
| _mup_ | Bug #569369: package haveged 0.9-1 failed to install/upgrade: podproces instalovaný post-installation skript vrátil chybový status 1 <apport-package> <i386> <lucid> <pkg-auto-install-tester> <haveged (Ubuntu):Confirmed> <haveged (Debian):Unknown> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/569369 > | 15:10 |
| bac | benji: didn't you do the work for bug 742490 already? | 15:11 |
| _mup_ | Bug #742490: HTML is constructed using string concatenation in the structural subscription JS. <story-better-bug-notification> <Launchpad itself:Triaged by yellow> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/742490 > | 15:11 |
| benji | looking | 15:11 |
| benji | bac: yep, it had an ec2 land failure that I'm investigating today | 15:12 |
| bac | benji: ok, i was just wondering as there is a card in the backlog | 15:14 |
| benji | bac: I wasn't aware of that one; I'll move it to the right place. | 15:15 |
| benji | thanks | 15:16 |
| danilos | gary_poster, in our call, we can discuss next steps for the descriptions stuff | 15:22 |
| gary_poster | yay! :-) | 15:22 |
| danilos | gary_poster, ready when you are (if it's the call time) | 15:32 |
| gary_poster | it is, was finishing email 1 sec | 15:32 |
| gary_poster | BetterBugSubscriptionsAndNotifications | 15:56 |
| gary_poster | https://dev.launchpad.net/LEP/BetterBugSubscriptionsAndNotifications/DirectSubscriptionsOnBug | 15:56 |
| gary_poster | benji, you won't be able to land your branch as you list it | 16:29 |
| gary_poster | lp:~gary/launchpad/muteteamsub-ui is on db-devel | 16:29 |
| gary_poster | and you want to land on devel | 16:29 |
| gary_poster | maybe you already handled that | 16:29 |
| gary_poster | I didn't read the cover letter, sorry | 16:29 |
| benji | yeah, I figured that out; I think I can retarget to devel relatively easily | 16:29 |
| gary_poster | I'm not sure what your plan is, but plans that I would come up with would probably require me to merge with db-devel to resolve conflicts | 16:30 |
| gary_poster | I won't worry about it now, though, since you are aware of it :-) | 16:31 |
| benji | gary_poster: ok, my idea didn't work; it's a trainwreck; taking lunch now and I'll ask about other options afterward | 16:43 |
| gary_poster | benji, ok :-) | 16:44 |
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| * gmb -> nipping to the post office. back shortly | 16:55 | |
| bac | hi benji, i was looking at bug 750568 you reported about the tags entry being to big. | 17:03 |
| _mup_ | Bug #750568: Tags text box is very wide on the subscription add/edit overlay/ <story-better-bug-notification> <Bugzilla Launchpad Plugin:Invalid> <Launchpad itself:Confirmed for bac> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/750568 > | 17:03 |
| bac | benji: i've looked at safari, ff on os x, and ff on ubuntu and i don't see anything obviously wrong | 17:03 |
| bac | do you still see the problem or am i on the wrong track? | 17:04 |
| benji | bac: Firefox 4: http://i.imgur.com/1MBpV.png | 17:44 |
| benji | that's on prod | 17:44 |
| bac | benji, it must be FF4 on ubuntu -- a combination i haven't tried | 17:46 |
| bac | ff4 on os x doesn't show the problem | 17:46 |
| bac | but, heck | 17:46 |
| bac | i'll bring in the size of the text box a bit | 17:46 |
| benji | browsers hate us | 17:47 |
| bac | i've been reluctant to upgrade to ff4 since deryck said windmill has problems with it | 17:47 |
| bac | i'll try on another machine | 17:47 |
| benji | gary_poster: if I elect to merge into lp:launchpad/db-devel I don't get any conflicts; is that an OK thing to do? | 18:11 |
| gary_poster | benji, no | 18:11 |
| benji | darn | 18:11 |
| gary_poster | well, I need to load context again, but I don't think so | 18:12 |
| benji | gary_poster: MP in question: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~benji/launchpad/add-edit-tests/+merge/56806 | 18:12 |
| gary_poster | benji, let's say "very much not ideal but acceptable in dire straits" | 18:12 |
| gary_poster | but I don't think these are dire straits | 18:12 |
| gary_poster | here's what I suggest | 18:13 |
| benji | heh | 18:13 |
| gary_poster | make a branch of just the parts of what I did that really should have landed on devel | 18:13 |
| gary_poster | merge that into devel. Out of paranoia, I would suggest that you also merge into db-devel and land, because otherwise bzr might get confused. | 18:14 |
| gary_poster | make your branch dependeny on that other branch | 18:14 |
| gary_poster | land it | 18:14 |
| gary_poster | mm | 18:15 |
| gary_poster | you may need to get a patch of your branch and land it | 18:15 |
| gary_poster | ignoring your current branch | 18:15 |
| gary_poster | I understand that's annoying but that's probably what I would do | 18:15 |
| benji | that (the patch bit) wouldn't be hard | 18:15 |
| gary_poster | If I were to think that it was super annoying, what would I do... | 18:16 |
| benji | can you elaborate on what "merge that into devel" means? Is that outside of the normal landing mechanism? | 18:16 |
| gary_poster | no, normal | 18:16 |
| gary_poster | my UI branch includes db patches | 18:16 |
| gary_poster | from a dependency | 18:17 |
| benji | oh; and since the same changes have been made to devel and db-devel when they're merged they'll combine happily (i.e., they won't conflict) | 18:17 |
| gary_poster | so you really can't land a branch that directly bases itself | 18:17 |
| gary_poster | right | 18:17 |
| gmb | gary_poster: Do you have time for a quick call about bug 424849? | 18:17 |
| _mup_ | Bug #424849: Launchpad should batch attachment notification emails <lp-bugs> <story-better-bug-notification> <story-better-notification-sending> <Launchpad itself:In Progress by gmb> <apport (Ubuntu):Invalid> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/424849 > | 18:17 |
| gary_poster | sure gmb. 1 sec | 18:17 |
| gmb | Cool. | 18:17 |
| benji | ok; I'll start on generating a non-DB parts branch of lp:~gary/launchpad/muteteamsub-ui | 18:17 |
| gary_poster | benji, not just non-DB but non-mute | 18:18 |
| gary_poster | you only want the test refactoring bits | 18:18 |
| benji | ah, ok | 18:18 |
| benji | that should make it easier | 18:18 |
| gary_poster | otherwise things would be nasty, I suspect | 18:18 |
| benji | the test refactorings were quite good, by the way | 18:18 |
| gary_poster | cool, thanks benji | 18:19 |
| gary_poster | gmb, here | 18:19 |
| gmb | gary_poster: Cool. Skype? | 18:19 |
| gary_poster | Skype version of here | 18:19 |
| gary_poster | yeah :-) | 18:19 |
| gmb | gary_poster: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/31586 | 18:33 |
| _mup_ | Bug #31586: Malone comments are sent in email and forge the address of the person who filed them <email> <lp-bugs> <Launchpad itself:Triaged> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/31586 > | 18:33 |
| gary_poster | bac, ready on Skype whenever you are. no rush. | 19:31 |
| bac | gary_poster: dial at will | 19:31 |
| benji | gary_poster: do you want to review the "copy db-devel refactorings to devel" branch? The code itself has been reviewed already of course, but I just want a double-check that it makes sense | 19:58 |
| gary_poster | sure, benji. | 19:59 |
| gary_poster | where do I sign up? :-) | 19:59 |
| benji | I've already verified that the patch that contains my new tests applies cleanly to the branch and they all pass. | 19:59 |
| gary_poster | awesome | 19:59 |
| benji | https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~benji/launchpad/ss-test-refactorings/+merge/56826 | 19:59 |
| gary_poster | benji, line 96 does not look familiar (doesn't mean I think it's bad, just don't know what it does)...(still looking) | 20:01 |
| * benji looks | 20:01 | |
| benji | hmm, not there but in another place that line got duplicated somehow | 20:02 |
| gary_poster | line 154 seems to dupe the line before it | 20:03 |
| gary_poster | (154 of diff) | 20:03 |
| gary_poster | 179 also | 20:04 |
| gary_poster | benji ^^^ those three things. other than that, looks good to me | 20:04 |
| benji | gary_poster: fixed and pushed | 20:04 |
| gary_poster | cool | 20:04 |
| gary_poster | benji, I approved in anticipation of the diff, which has not yet showed up :-) | 20:06 |
| benji | so trusting | 20:06 |
| gary_poster | :-) | 20:08 |
| bac | gary_poster: the fix i landed for bug 751397 is an improvement but is not sufficient. | 20:21 |
| _mup_ | Bug #751397: Structural subscription overlay sometimes rendering incorrectly on the page not as an overlay <qa-needstesting> <Launchpad itself:Fix Committed by bac> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/751397 > | 20:21 |
| gary_poster | bac, ...for another problem? | 20:22 |
| bac | gary_poster: it does no harm but isn't a complete solution. i'd like to make it as qa-ok so that it does not have to be reverted and then fix it completely in a follow-up | 20:22 |
| gary_poster | bac, +1 | 20:22 |
| bac | thx | 20:22 |
| gary_poster | make a new bug, and make this bug address what you fixed, maybe? | 20:22 |
| bac | yeah. | 20:22 |
| gary_poster | benji, finishing an email, with you in a sec | 21:02 |
| benji | k | 21:02 |
| bac | gary_poster: i'm going to be offline for a while but will continue working the bug i just filed | 21:09 |
| gary_poster | cool bac | 21:09 |
| gary_poster | night all | 22:37 |
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