[00:02] hmm, changing compiz plugins seems to still crash it. [00:03] yep [00:03] it does for me too [00:03] then it relaunches :P [00:03] with the compiz plugin enabled [00:03] so weir [00:03] d [00:03] iceWM theme changes crash it too... but it lets docky work... so its some new fangled compositor [00:03] yes, there's some kind of fallback mechanism there too [00:04] So, pardon if this discussion has already happened -are there sudden known issues with the nvidia driver? [00:05] no [00:05] suddenly, it won't detect anything with HDMI out [00:05] could be, I am using nvidia [00:05] also, when I switch wallpapers, my screen rapidly flickers [00:05] I dualscreen with another monitor attached to my HDMI port, suddenly HDMI isn't working :( [00:06] h00k, none experienced here [00:06] h00k, i'm dual screen too, but using vga/dvi [00:06] I just removed the proprietary drivers, I'm goig to reboot and see what happens. [00:06] h00k, I had to go into nvidia-settings and enable my second monitor [00:06] FYI [00:11] hello [00:11] is somebody free enough to give me support without bothering you people? [00:12] you are bothering me [00:12] just kidding [00:12] what do you need [00:12] ig2g in like 10 mins [00:12] here's the thing [00:13] I installed 11.04 on a 640GB USB HDD, withouth no internal drive to be sure grub wouldn't sneak into them [00:13] can anyone help me get my sound detected as surround sound instead of stereo? sound card alc660, motherboard m2v [00:14] yet when I try to boot on others computers I get black screen with type cursor flashing forever or Grub rescue [00:14] ninjai: Yeah, that's where it *was* working, and I checked there, but when I go to 'detect,' it doesn't pick it up. === chris_ is now known as Guest16268 [00:14] ninjai: I've verified the monitor works [00:15] In addition, I removed the nvidia driver, and now I can't get back to GDM ;) [00:15] In addition, I removed the nvidia driver, and now I can't get back to GDM ;) [00:15] h00k, reinstall the nvidia driver, drag around the monitor in nvidia-settings, sometimes they overlap :S [00:16] i would suggest (if you didn't download the propreitary driver) you download the nvidia drive from their website using links [00:16] at the cli === Guest16268 is now known as Chr|s [00:17] ninja1: any suggestion? [00:18] GatunoRox, I've never personally done a setup liek that, but I would suggest that (if the cmoputer supports it) you change the boot device using quickboot (usually an F key at boot)/bios to select booting from USB device. [00:18] that should od it [00:18] *do it [00:18] I did [00:19] it gave the boot recovery, blanck screen [00:19] on the pc i used to install it boots fine [00:20] apparently the Core 1 series wasn't 64bit. Gah! Now I have to download a different ISO. [00:20] ninjai: for...testing purposes? (to grab it straight from nvidia and not the repos) [00:22] oh, it seems gnome3 is officially released. I thought they would release nearer end of the month. [00:23] anything special about gnome3? [00:23] lots! [00:23] lighter or heavier? [00:24] I heard it would be heavier. At least according to one review... [00:24] jiohdi: check it: http://www.gnome3.org/ [00:24] any good tutorials for installing? [00:28] So, now that I've reinstalled nvidia-current, GDM doesn't come up yet. [00:29] I still am left with a flashing cursor. Do I need to dpkg-reconfigure anything other than xorg, gdm? [00:29] did jockey create the xorg.conf properly? [00:30] I didn't use jockey, I had to do it from a netroot session [00:30] k, did you run nvidia-xconfig then? [00:31] or manually create xorg.conf? (those are pretty much the choices you have) [00:31] yofel: what package is nvidia-xconfig in, do you know? [00:32] the driver package, so if you have nvidia-current installed nvidia-xconfig should be there [00:33] negative, ghostrider. trying something, standby. [00:33] I used low-graphics mode, created a new config based on my hardware automagically. [00:33] I don't remember offhand how to configure my own xorg anymore, I haven't had to for a few releases ;) [00:34] ah, then you still need to set Driver "nvidia" though there [00:34] failsafe, then jockey? Yeah...let me try. [00:34] well, you can run jockey-text from cli too [00:35] oh, i forget about that, too. Yeah [00:35] I forget my fu when stuff 'just works' ;) [00:36] heh [00:36] yofel: jockey-text just said "Additional drivers" | newline | "Searching for available drivers..." and dropped me back to a prompt [00:37] as if there aren't any [00:39] good day all [00:40] yofel: oho! removed existing xorg.confs, which apparently I had one. [00:42] yofel, he can do jockey-text -e xorg:nvidia_current [00:44] bjsnider: thanks, I managed to get it set through failsafeX, and jockey-gtk [00:45] except it still isn't detecting anything on my HDMI port === yofel_ is now known as yofel [00:46] h00k, tell nvidia about that. remember, all of the shared libs and the kernel module come _pre-built_, we merely put them where they belong. if the code isn't working nvidia has to fix it [00:46] bjsnider: yeah, and this is something that just happend (yesterday) [00:46] hm, didn't know about -e yet [00:47] I didn't either, I didn't see a man page about jockey or jockey-text [00:48] don't seem to have one, jockey-text --help tells you about it though [00:48] ah, I guess I should have tried --help. [00:48] oh well. I'll check out experimental support, not nvidia. [00:50] h00k, this is likely a xorg.conf option that you need to enable. check out the nvforums linux site [00:50] bjsnider: Probably, just interesting that I didn't have to futz with xorg to do this before. [00:50] before what? [00:51] before you upgraded to natty? [00:51] bjsnider: before...yesterday. [00:51] bjsnider: I've been on Natty since toolkit dropped. [00:51] bjsnider: I haven't had to futs with xorg manually in like...2 or 3 releases. [00:51] futz [00:51] that too ;) [00:51] futz, mess, screw around, etc. [00:52] Fresh install -> install nvidia driver -> open nvidia-settings, detect displays, set up dualscreen, quit [00:53] h00k, you should post a bug on launchpad against nvidia-current, and also on nvforums [00:53] bjsnider: yeah, I will. [00:58] will btrfs be the default fs in natty? [01:01] i hope not [01:01] it doesnt even have a fsck tool yet [01:02] hum, thanks [01:05] so umm... why are the non ppc daily-live images missing? [01:05] failed to build maybe? [01:07] psusi: here's the log if you want to look http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/cd-build-logs/ubuntu/natty/daily-live-20110406.1.log [01:10] hm, yeah, failed to build: [01:10] mv: cannot stat `/srv/cdimage.ubuntu.com/scratch/ubuntu/daily-live/tmp/natty-amd64/CD1/casper/filesystem.kernel-generic': No such file or directory [01:10] make: *** [/srv/cdimage.ubuntu.com/scratch/ubuntu/daily-live/tmp/natty-amd64/bootable-stamp] Error 1 [01:10] ERROR WHILE BUILDING OFFICIAL IMAGES !! [01:11] doh [01:16] bjsnider, yofel: nvidia driver success. Fix: Unplug HDMI cable. Plug in HDMI cable. [01:17] ...which I had done. [01:17] Anyway, it's working. [01:18] hey guys. i think i've found a unity bug, and i was hoping to see if any of you guys could duplicate it before i file a bug report? just so i know i'm not going insane [01:19] okay, so the sidebar is set to dodge active window which works absolutely fine UNTIL you do something like this [01:20] bring up firefox, maximised so the sidebar dodges firefox out of the way [01:20] then start up nautilus, again, maximised [01:21] then move your mouse to the top left of the screen so the unity bar appears, and quickly close nautilus BEFORE the unity bar can hide [01:21] you should be left with firefox, maximised, with the unity side bar still in place - not dodging away, not seemingly recognising that firefox is now the "active" windnow [01:22] even clicking firefox doesn't cause the unity sidebar to get its act together [01:22] it still dodges for me [01:22] h00k, that's a highly technical process [01:23] i cant repo heslam :/ [01:24] after upgrading from 10.10, I login and get the wallpaper and the panel along the top, and a notification bubble that I have connected to wifi, but then everything freezes and all I can do is move the mouse [01:24] digitalfiz: really? i'll take your word for it that you're getting it exactly right (closing nautilus before the bar can hide)... the other variable is that it has to be firefox that is "next in line" to appear, not say, your irc client (if i have irssi in the terminal as the next thing to show up, it works perfectly) [01:24] using geforce 7300 mobile [01:25] digitalfiz: i'll keep experimenting. the other possible problems is that i'm using a high DPI (150) as i'm running unity on my lowish res HD TV. [01:26] digitalfiz: it causes some other problems with unity that i should probably bug report (the dash icons are lopsided and uncentred), so who knows what other problems it might be causing [01:27] logging in with ubuntu classic gives me top and bottom panels but same non-reponsive desktop, and ubuntu classic (no effects) loads up just fine [01:27] so I'm pretty sure compiz is involved with the issue [01:27] heslam, maybe [01:27] any suggestions? [01:29] http://img34.imageshack.us/f/lopsideddash.png/ <=== that's what happens with a large DPI [01:30] digitalfiz: thanks for trying to reproduce my bug, though :) [01:30] is it just me.... or did the install just poke the CD drive to spin it up because the download was almost finished? [01:33] anyone else having problems with update manager offering a partial upgrade for natty? [01:33] giant420: it's told me that a few times [01:33] synaptic wants to remove ubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-manager, and ubuntu-notifier. [01:33] its generally a bad idea to accept a partial upgrade [01:34] !partial upgrade [01:34] thats why I havent done it! ;-) [01:35] i just dont know if its an issue with my system, or something on the server [01:37] hey guys. is the only way to make a new terminal window if you have one preexisting on another workspace without inadventently moving to that workspace (in order to reach file => new terminal) to search for it in the dash? [01:37] or is there a better way? [01:39] oh, FF lets you create a new window from the sidebar, but the terminal doesn't [01:40] i have 2d ubuntu 10.10 no nvidia drivers installed if i upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 will 11.04 still not install nvidia drivers for me? [01:40] in place upgrade [01:41] unity 2d that is,lol [01:41] allright, it didn't detect the wireless on this laptop. Where do I begin fixing this? [01:41] heslam: ctrl-alt-t? [01:41] oh hey, "Install Drivers" [01:41] if i upgrade to 11.04 i did not want ubuntu to install the nvidia drivers [01:42] thiebaude, jockey only recommends the driver. it doesn't put a gun to your head and force you to use it [01:42] ok i did not know thanks [01:42] geekahedron1: wouldn't that require the preexisting terminal window to be selected...meaning i'd be dragged away from my current workspace? [01:43] the 11.04 installer installs nvidia during the install [01:43] thiebaude, plus you can very easily remove nvidia afterwards if you want [01:43] on the live 11.04 cd [01:43] heslam: to open a terminal window? ctrl-alt-t should work wherever [01:43] bjsnider, i tried that before a few time and it borked my 11.04 [01:44] times [01:44] geekahedron1: ah yeah, you're perfectly right - thanks :) [01:44] I *know* this laptop has a wifi chip, but I only have one adapter, eth0. What's going on here? [01:44] bjsnider, do you suggest update-manager -d for the upgrade process? [01:45] I'd know how to troubleshoot this on, say, Gentoo, but I want to learn ubuntu's hardware GUI stuff [01:45] heslam: it's a global shortcut (keyboard shortcuts from the menu), unless the active application overloads the key [01:45] im getting my 10.10 updates now :) [01:45] sure, it worked for me [01:45] cool, thanks :) [01:46] except it wiped my hdd and sent confidential info about me to the feds [01:46] j/k [01:46] omg,lol [01:46] another OS would do that, j/k,lol :) [01:46] i am having all kinds of trouble getting the broadcom wireless drivers to work in natty... [01:46] bjsnider, [01:46] geekahedron1: is that a good idea? i mean i hate to be anal and everything but in terms of having an application overload a global shortcut seems to contradict the whole principle of least surprise type thing. maybe i complain too much :P [01:46] now they know all about my moonshining operation [01:46] haha [01:47] heslam: i mean, if ctrl-alt-t means something to the application you're using, that program will capture the keypress [01:47] that's true of any shortcut [01:48] geekahedron1: yeah, just seems like a weird idea to have something that should work everywhere not work in some places. i'm just nit picking beyond the scope of this channel :) [01:49] bjsnider: lol i randomly look into this chan [01:49] bjsnider: I saw your comment about erase hdd and feds [01:49] bjsnider: so i started reading it all ;P [01:49] bjsnider: took me a while to get that this was a joke lol [01:50] :) [01:50] heslam: basically, if the interrupt doesn't mean anything to the application, it will pass it on (or it could handle it *and* pass it on) [01:50] that's how interrupts have to work, whether for keyboard shortcuts or mouse movements or whatever [01:55] so, the third-party broadcom sta drivers for my wireless card were installed and enabled automatically, but they're not working [01:55] uninstalled, reinstalled, updated, tried to get the b43 drivers recognized, nothing [01:56] anyone had any luck with that? [01:56] I don't get it. lspci shows a BCM4311, b43 is loaded and attached to it, no errors in syslog, but I only have eth0, no eth1 or wlan0. ifconfig -a only shows eth0 and lo. What do I try next? [01:57] that's where i am [01:57] hm semi installing gnome 3 totally weirded up my system... http://i.imgur.com/prlyN.png [01:57] 4311 also [01:57] geekahedron1: Dell? [01:57] yeah [01:57] i purged but I can't get back to normal, any help? [01:57] d630 [01:57] I have a 640m [01:57] also, how do I add my home folder to the launcher??? [01:57] probably very closely related [01:58] attencio [01:58] i have something importnat to add [01:59] the white window glitch in 1104 is due to hte nvidia driver bug [01:59] what white window glitch? [01:59] when you maximize the window is blank [01:59] texture size limit glitch, right? [01:59] window is white [01:59] I remember wrestling with that on gentoo [01:59] mrdeb, what window? [02:00] cause i upgrade driver to newest in lucid [02:00] any window [02:00] on gentoo, that's because the window wasn't done compiling :3 [02:00] i'm not seeing that issue [02:00] rww: oh shush [02:01] rww, ah, emerge humour [02:01] gentoo at least has a good distro name [02:01] sounds like a type of sushi [02:01] a sharp bird [02:01] sounds like a type of penguin [02:01] it is a bird [02:01] surgical bird [02:02] gentoo is an actual species of penguin IIRC [02:03] hey guys === Guest79753 is now known as Chr|s [02:03] i will not remove nvidia to test it [02:03] noq [02:03] w [02:06] okay, what the hell is b43-pci-bridge? [02:06] sounds like a broadcom chipset driver [02:07] well, it is attached to my wireless card... but isn't producing a network device [02:09] how relevant is this to the beta? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx [02:09] has anybody been able to add new launchers to unity? [02:16] kdebase-workspace-bin: Depends: kdebase-workspace-data (= 4:4.6.2a-0ubuntu1) but 4:4.6.1-0ubuntu4 is to be installed [02:17] kdebase-workspace-data 4:4.6.2a missing from repos? [02:23] can be found here http://launchpadlibrarian.net/68493982/kdebase-workspace-data_4.6.2a-0ubuntu1_all.deb [02:24] sigh. I see the wireless situation STILL hasn't been fixed... [02:24] no luck here either [02:27] guys, when i submit a bug to launchpad [02:28] I actually got my wireless to work, but it confuses the hell out of the network manager [02:28] will it give me an option to upload png images directly to the site for my bug report? for screenshots etc. [02:28] geekahedron1: BCM4311, correct? [02:28] or should i include a link to the image hosted elsewhere? [02:28] roothorick: yes, what did you have to do? === cryptk|offline is now known as cryptk [02:30] hey guys [02:30] I tried 11.04 for a while, then wiped the disk and reinstalled 10.10 - I hate 11.04 [02:30] how do I uninstall gnome 3? it isn't working, unable to log in :( [02:30] geekahedron1: install firmware-b43-installer, then modprobe -r b44 b43 ssb wl, modprobe b43, modprobe b44 to get your wired ethernet back, rfkill unblock all, iwconfig wlan0 up. At this point your "Wi-Fi" light will come on and network manager will show nearby networks. [02:30] geekahedron1: write this down, because you'll probably have to do part of it again [02:31] yeah, my intent was to save all my setup stuff in one place this time [02:32] since there are always some kind of issues [02:32] can one have gnome3 installed but use unity instead of gnome-shell? [02:33] wolter: im sure there is a way. Im not sure how to do it [02:33] as far as I know, installing the gnome3 ppa breaks unity. [02:33] I am having issues getting gnome 3 to even work [02:33] Chr|s, would i need to hack something to do it or do unity and gs work with the classic --replace principle? [02:33] yeah it does, have to disable unity some how [02:33] oh [02:34] Chr|s, I suppose the best way is installing the gnome3-session package and start using gnome shell. [02:34] so, I have to say, I am personally not a fan of Unity [02:36] I'm used to Unity already, but I have to say it has so much room for improvement [02:37] sweet [02:38] geekahedron1: found a simpler way. Just install firmware-b43-installer and reboot. [02:38] exactly, with the right work, I could use it [02:39] but for now I will stay with my Ubuntu Classic session [02:39] geekahedron1: probably don't strictly HAVE to reboot but it's easier than doing all the module loading/unloading legwork [02:39] Daekdroom: where is this package located? im unable to do this through cli. Im not that experienced [02:40] Chr|s, it should be available if you use the gnome3 PPA [02:43] Daekdroom: I think I have it installed, just have unity running as well..because I can't even login to my system by using x [02:43] that is probably a GDM problem then. [02:43] I see [02:44] being like this, I am thinking I am going to have to reinstall the os because I can't seem to login [02:46] Chr|s, what is your problem with logging in? [02:46] Chr|s, use sudo ppa-purge ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3 [02:47] ok thanks brb [02:47] doing it now [02:48] chris|, or... on console try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -f install [02:49] chris|, then sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm [02:50] alright [02:50] you need a restart afterwards [02:55] unity file search couldn't be any more useless... [02:56] and how do I get my home icon back to the launcher? [02:56] I believe the answer to the later question is to reset the icons. [02:56] In a terminal, run unity --reset-icons [02:58] has anyone had the issue with telepathy-buttery and telepathy-salut repetively crashing? === TerminX_ is now known as TerminX [02:58] *telepathy-butterfly [03:01] Has anybody gotten Guake to work in 11.04? [03:02] how do i move a window that is stuck under the top panel? [03:02] alt+left click on it and drag === cryptk is now known as cryptk|offline [03:12] How do I exit Banshee (2.0)? [03:13] hellooo folksss [03:14] anyone try anf install Gnome3 today?? [03:15] Scotty, according to what I've read it breaks Unity. I'm going to try it on my other machine sometime soon, but to me that sucks. [03:15] ayee lol, i've toasted my machgine lol [03:15] i have a flashing login screen with no option to login lol, trying to figure out how to fix it [03:15] How do you like it? [03:15] Oh, hah. [03:16] When I try it I'm just going to try it with Fedora 15 [03:16] hi [03:16] I have an nvidia 7150m and when I have compiz enabled random windows turn white on the inside [03:16] and upon waking the laptop from sleep the screen goes completely white except for the cursor and I have to restart [03:17] (hp dv6700, amd x64) [03:17] did you try both NVidia drivers torchie? [03:17] i tried disabling copy to texture and it made no difference -- what else would usually be the cause? [03:18] I installed the proprietary ones through additional but am not sure how to switch to the free ones [03:20] Hmm [03:20] Can't login still [03:21] I try to install the gnome shell and get this error.. [03:21] It is a dependency error [03:22] then file a bug against the PPA that you're using. [03:22] Gnome-icon-theme-symbolic [03:24] cant file a bug over my phone :( [03:25] im getting a flashing login screen chris [03:26] I'm sorry [03:27] lol [03:28] noo idea what to do lol [03:33] Welcome to my world [03:33] Ok I purged gnome 3 ppa [03:34] How do I remove gnome 3 and have just unity? I need 5to get back to my desktop [03:35] ppa-purge [03:35] Yeah.. I did that but still see login for gnome 3 [03:36] sudp apt-get -f install ?? [03:36] Chr|s, I had the exact same problem [03:36] do this [03:37] Ok [03:38] What am I doing? Lol [03:38] 1. purge the gnome3 ppa (some packages will fail to get purged). | 2. Update your system and restart. | 3. Purge the ppa again, now it shouldn't fail. | 4. Update again and restart [03:39] having patience :) [03:39] I do [03:39] Whats up with the overlay scrollbars? [03:46] Hmm I get this error "could not update ICEauthority file /home/user/.ICEauthority" [03:47] Get it when I try to login [03:54] additional drivers says I need jockey for unity [03:59] ugh [03:59] Chr|s, seems like something took your .iceauthority for itself... likely root.. did you try to change it back? [03:59] i don't like the new unity at all, but how do you change it? [03:59] geekahedron1, change it to what? [04:00] well [04:00] add things to the panel [04:00] get a window list [04:00] I generally just rm .ICEauthority when it's causing problems ;P [04:00] Jiohdi hmm not sure how [04:00] geekahedron1, too add I think you just drag something from an open listing [04:00] you chose the all programs [04:01] then drag [04:01] huh [04:01] Chr|s, chown user /home/user/.ICEauthority [04:02] oh ... i'm not talking about the sidebar launcher [04:02] geekahedron1: I don't think you can use a window list in unity, the sidebar replaces it [04:02] Chr|s, chown +R user /home/user/.ICEauthority [if its a folder] [04:02] one of the defaults is a list for all programs [04:03] in unity [04:03] but i want my cpu temperature displayed next to the clock [04:03] or a taskbar-style window list [04:03] or even a window list button [04:03] last I used unity it did not work well with others [04:03] we have no interface options? what is this, apple [04:03] geekahedron1: Well, if when you click on the panel there is no add to panel option, I assume it won't be possible [04:03] its made for touch screens [04:03] geekahedron1: pretty much yea [04:04] Hmm that command isn't working says invalis user [04:04] is user your user name? substitute your actual user name [04:04] oh [04:04] you have to do it as root [04:04] so add sudo to the beginning [04:04] Shh that's it [04:05] Ahh I mean [04:05] And maybe do user:user as well to set both... [04:05] well, huh [04:05] Hrmm..says there is no such file [04:09] does anybody know how to manually edit the launchers in unity? I mean, like hack it under the hood [04:10] ya i would like to know where unitiy's configuration file is so i can see if there is a way to move it to the bottom of the screen. [04:12] Ehh I dunno. Guess I'm going to have to reinstall the os [04:12] Chr|s, check out http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-desktop-74/iceauthority-error-in-ubuntu-8-10-a-681312/ [04:14] Chris did you make sure you cap'd the ICEauthority [04:14] acckk [04:14] sudo gdm reset isnt working for me now [04:15] When I change to compiz on ubuntu classic my x out buttons dissapear. help? [04:16] Hell I just want unity back [04:16] Chr|s, whats wrong? [04:16] Chr|s, if you can create a second user with full authority, you can delete the first one and it should fix the problem [04:17] It has something to do with me trying to install gnome 3. === cryptk|offline is now known as cryptk [04:17] Trying to get back to unity [04:17] Chr|s, oh. [04:17] Chr|s, should not effect the 2nd new user you create [04:28] When I change to compiz on ubuntu classic my x out buttons dissapear. help? [04:30] can anybody help me? [04:33] drmorphias, i don't think thats possible haha [05:11] Gnome 3 has ruined my lifef lol [05:22] hahahah [05:22] comment of the day [05:22] yah lol, [05:22] how do you backup linux drive in windows? [05:23] you don't [05:24] it's impossible? [05:24] i tried calling the disk with explore2fs, but it's not showing up.. [05:25] if you boot a live CD, can you accorss HD? [05:25] yes [05:26] there is my solution [05:29] hi... can anyone link me a good guide for my rt73(wireless) [05:31] lsmod: http://paste.ubuntu.com/590572/ [05:36]