| airurando | evening | 21:46 |
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| moylan | hi | 21:47 |
| airurando | hi moylan | 22:56 |
| moylan | all well? | 22:57 |
| airurando | sorry I missed you | 22:57 |
| airurando | child going to sleep emergency i'm afraid. | 22:57 |
| airurando | yeah apart from that | 22:57 |
| airurando | and you | 22:57 |
| moylan | no worries. kids are a handfull | 22:57 |
| moylan | waiting eagerly for 11.04 :-) | 22:58 |
| airurando | ditto | 22:58 |
| airurando | we tested the beta at global jam last saturday | 22:58 |
| moylan | wished i could make it but not an option at the mo. | 22:59 |
| airurando | no problem | 22:59 |
| airurando | where are you based? | 22:59 |
| moylan | dublin | 22:59 |
| airurando | cool | 23:00 |
| moylan | yourself? | 23:00 |
| airurando | kildare | 23:00 |
| airurando | work in west dub | 23:00 |
| moylan | doesn't everybody (judging by traffic) :-D | 23:00 |
| airurando | indeed | 23:00 |
| airurando | moylan, will you make the release party? | 23:01 |
| moylan | going to try but but will have to see closer to the day. | 23:01 |
| airurando | if so any preference on date or venue? | 23:01 |
| moylan | i think it'll be the usual jimmy chungs all you can eat chinese followed by pub. i'll skip the chinese and head to the pub. | 23:02 |
| airurando | good stuff | 23:03 |
| airurando | yeah jimmy chungs was the only preference expressed | 23:03 |
| moylan | it seems popular with the linux crowd. nerds and junk food. who knew? :-) | 23:04 |
| airurando | indeed again | 23:05 |
| moylan | so what got you into linux? | 23:05 |
| airurando | ohhhhhhhhhhh | 23:06 |
| airurando | long scattered story | 23:06 |
| airurando | first up | 23:06 |
| airurando | must confess | 23:06 |
| airurando | I'm just a simple home user | 23:06 |
| moylan | nothing wrong with that! | 23:07 |
| airurando | back in 1999 I was working in the US and bored | 23:07 |
| airurando | discovered linux and barely got red hat 5.something up and running | 23:08 |
| airurando | enjoyed it but didn't understand it | 23:08 |
| moylan | same as my self. 5.2 got it working but wasn't able to do much with it. | 23:08 |
| airurando | snap! | 23:08 |
| moylan | then i distro hopped for a few years learning a little new each time. | 23:08 |
| airurando | I came back home in 2000 and drifted away from linux | 23:09 |
| airurando | only came back to ubuntu in 2008 | 23:09 |
| moylan | in the end it was that i colonised my windows systems with open source software. firefox, thunderbird, python, vim, cygwin. | 23:10 |
| airurando | moylan: what is it you do? I'm a microbiologist by trade. | 23:11 |
| moylan | i'm a joat (jack of all trades). program a little, tech support software and hardware a lot. general dogsbody. | 23:11 |
| airurando | glad you explained joat :) | 23:12 |
| airurando | are you central Dub? | 23:12 |
| moylan | well i.t. is a weird job. every position has a unique skillset. mine just kept expanding. | 23:12 |
| moylan | live in killiney at the mo. | 23:13 |
| airurando | right | 23:13 |
| airurando | be good to see you at a Ubuntu hour or the Natty release party if you can make it/ | 23:14 |
| moylan | how did you get into microbiology? | 23:14 |
| airurando | 1988 (I hear you gasp) | 23:15 |
| airurando | NUIG or UCG as it was then called | 23:15 |
| moylan | i'm 40. not shocked. :-) | 23:15 |
| airurando | Science | 23:15 |
| airurando | hons degree in Microbiology in 1992 | 23:15 |
| airurando | Ph.D in Microbiology 1997 (again NUIG) | 23:16 |
| airurando | 1998 post Doc in the US | 23:16 |
| airurando | back home in 200o | 23:16 |
| airurando | moylan 40. great same era | 23:17 |
| moylan | many jobs in microbiology in ireland in these troubled times? | 23:17 |
| airurando | not particularly but I'm ok at the mo. | 23:18 |
| moylan | just that ireland is a fairly small pool tech wise. microbiology seems (to an outsider at least) more suited to a richer larger country. | 23:19 |
| airurando | ah no | 23:21 |
| airurando | pharma sector is big here | 23:21 |
| moylan | but i thought that was only production | 23:21 |
| airurando | microbiology is critical the many pharma types but particularly biopharma | 23:22 |
| moylan | and more on topic i'm guessing all the systems at work are windows? | 23:23 |
| airurando | bullseye | 23:23 |
| airurando | I even plucked up the courage to suggest OSS options to the IT department in the current climate. | 23:24 |
| airurando | but I would not have done that in years gone by. | 23:25 |
| moylan | the it department would be crazy to adopt oss. they would put themselves out of a job. | 23:25 |
| airurando | nah | 23:25 |
| airurando | support and implementation are key. | 23:26 |
| moylan | have you ever watched yes minister? | 23:26 |
| airurando | wow.... curve ball! | 23:26 |
| airurando | but yes | 23:26 |
| moylan | it's like sir humphrey discussing department budgets been the central purpose of the department. a department that saves money will be given less money. so that must NEVER happen. | 23:27 |
| airurando | ah now I see | 23:28 |
| airurando | but that is not the case in the current climate | 23:29 |
| moylan | likewise if there is less need for systems to be rebuilt and fixed then they will lay off the staff not needed. microsoft depends on this. | 23:29 |
| airurando | indeed but outsourcing IT needs is doing this anyway. | 23:30 |
| moylan | of course this gives an advantage to a startup that uses oss as they have less overheads to start with. | 23:30 |
| airurando | get it as cheaply and compliant as possible is the new mantra I feel | 23:31 |
| airurando | and this is good IMO | 23:31 |
| moylan | out sourcing i.t. is... a joke. i've dealt with outsourced tech support and 99% of it is more expensive in the long run. | 23:31 |
| airurando | agreed | 23:32 |
| moylan | language barriers, time delays, incompetence are par for the course. no matter what is promised. | 23:32 |
| airurando | agreed again! | 23:33 |
| airurando | great talking to you moylan | 23:33 |
| moylan | take care. | 23:34 |
| airurando | really hope to talk to you in person soon | 23:34 |
| airurando | must dash | 23:34 |
| airurando | take care | 23:34 |
| airurando | an | 23:34 |
| airurando | good night | 23:34 |
| moylan | slainte | 23:34 |
| infoturtle | how do all, anyone online? | 23:45 |
| moylan | yup | 23:46 |
| infoturtle | how do moylan | 23:46 |
| moylan | not to bad. waiting for 11.04 with bated breath! :-) | 23:46 |
| infoturtle | ha, I know, going be fun alright, gnome 3.0 came out yesterday so it'll be the 1st thing I change | 23:47 |
| moylan | not so sure about unity but will wait and see before passing judgement. | 23:48 |
| infoturtle | don't like it at all, it's all about gnome for me, love the look o it | 23:48 |
| infoturtle | theres a testing .iso for it I'm mad to try but internets on a download limit so I can't download load anything big here | 23:49 |
| moylan | i don't like radical change in these things. the devil you know and all that. but i want to give it a go. | 23:49 |
| moylan | large iso? isn't that why jobs were invented? :-D | 23:50 |
| infoturtle | no job :c spend all day working on a loss generating site and waiting for an app for collage to go through | 23:50 |
| moylan | ah, sorry! hope that goes ok for you. | 23:51 |
| infoturtle | we'll see, it's all try and try again isn't it | 23:52 |
| moylan | and then 10 minutes when i get my breath back... sorry watching blackadder! | 23:52 |
| infoturtle | what you work at? | 23:52 |
| infoturtle | ha, love blackadder! | 23:52 |
| moylan | off work last year due to arthritis. bloody annoying! | 23:52 |
| moylan | who doesn't love blackadder!? crazy! | 23:53 |
| infoturtle | now thats a balls! sorry to hear | 23:53 |
| moylan | shit happens. only my right hip so luckier than most with this disease. but it makes standing, walking, sitting excrutiating | 23:54 |
| infoturtle | ah, the main functions so! | 23:55 |
| infoturtle | I just popped on to see if I could get log in details for what ever site the UGJ pics went up on. was busy all week with a C# project but I've failed it so now have the time to put the pics of the Limerick one up | 23:56 |
| moylan | think they were tweeted. give me a few minutes and i'll have a rummage. | 23:57 |
| infoturtle | sweet, thanks | 23:57 |
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