[08:30]  * AlanBell tickles Pici with ubot2 and -accessibility
[08:30] <AlanBell> or is it jpds?
[08:34] <jussi> AlanBell: jpds iirc
[08:35] <AlanBell> ubot2 does not seem to be on the network at the moment
[08:38] <jussi> AlanBell: I can give you a bot temporarily
[08:38] <jussi> ubottu: join #ubuntu-accessability
[08:39] <jussi> ubottu: join #ubuntu-accessibility
[09:10] <AlanBell> thanks jussi
[10:23] <matata> Hello there!
[10:23] <matata> I've created #ubuntu-ae for upcoming EmiratesTeam! do I need any approval?
[10:24] <erUSUL> probably
[10:24] <matata> erUSUL, from?
[10:24] <erUSUL> wait until someone from the IRC council notices you
[10:24] <matata> ok
[10:25] <erUSUL> this is low traffic channel. be patient and good luck :)
[10:25] <matata> erUSUL, Thank you :-)
[12:29] <nigelb> are our bots dead?
[12:29] <erUSUL> !ping
[12:29] <topyli> matata: please have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/CreatingChannels
[12:31] <topyli> that has all you need to take care of. make sure to give access to the irc council, and giving access to freenode staff is a good idea too
[12:32] <matata> topyli, I did all the steps in that page!
[12:32] <topyli> matata: in fact the council likes to have ownership (F) so as to handle ownership changes in the distant future when we, the present, are dead and gone
[12:32] <topyli> (assuming there will still be a council, with ownership to your channel)
[12:34] <topyli> matata: if you did what the page says, you have a channel and everything's ok
[12:34] <matata> topyli, I did this: "/MSG ChanServ FLAGS #ChannelName UbuntuIrcCouncil +votiA"
[12:36] <topyli> matata: that's enough for our work, thanks
[12:37] <matata> topyli, thank you :-)
[12:37] <topyli> i'm a bit poor on the technical side, if the council members who understand these things request for more, we'll ask :)
[12:38] <matata> topyli, fair enough :-)
[12:39] <topyli> (the idea is that ownership is better placed to the council than to an individual)
[12:40] <topyli> oh and good luck and lots of love to your team!
[12:40] <matata> topyli, thank you :-)
[12:41] <matata> I'm trying now to find how to add UbuntuIrcCouncil as founder !
[12:42] <topyli> i'm not sure. i should probably do some studying. i think there's a +f and a +F but i don't know which is required :)
[12:53] <matata> popey, here?
[12:58] <popey> matata: yes
[12:59] <matata> popey, I want to add UbuntuIrcCouncil to the new Emirates Loco channel #ubuntu-ae as a founder
[13:00] <popey> I am not on the irc council, so don't actually know what's the right thing here
[13:01] <tsimpson> the council don't require being the "owner" of a channel, but we do suggest +f
[13:02] <tsimpson> +votiA is usually good enough, but +f gives us a bit more access if we need it
[13:02] <ubot4`> In #ubuntu-irc, tsimpson said: +votiA is usually good enough, but +f gives us a bit more access if we need it
[13:03] <matata> tsimpson, thank you
[13:08] <tsimpson> matata: if you haven't see this already: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamHowto#Becoming%20an%20Approved%20Team
[13:10] <matata> tsimpson, thank you! we still in the early steps :-)
[13:42] <nhandler> matata: But really, if you have more than one founder set on the channel, that helps ensure your team can continue to manage the channel on their own (and one user disappearing doesn't prevent that). +votiA allows members of the council to help out if no OPs are around and your channel is having issues. Additional flags are not required, but can make our lives a bit easier. If we do need full access in the channel for ...
[13:42] <nhandler> ... some reason, we can always get it (it just requires a bit of extra work)
[13:44] <matata> nhandler, I did this: "/MSG ChanServ FLAGS #ubuntu-ae  UbuntuIrcCouncil +votiAf"
[13:45] <nhandler> matata: That is more than sufficient. But you might also want to give another member of the Ubuntu-ae team founder access (the same level of access you have) if there is someone else you all trust. That way, if you go MIA for some reason, your team can still function
[13:45] <matata> nhandler, with the same flags:  +votiAf ?
[13:47] <nhandler> matata: You might want to consider +votsriRfA (and possibly even +F if you really trust them). Basically, it would allow you to share the IRC duties of the channel completely
[13:48] <nhandler> But like I said, this is just a suggestion and not required
[13:48] <matata> nhandler, ok, thank you very much :-)