| aaditya | kevin9286049: what color? | 00:06 |
|---|---|---|
| kevin9286049 | aaditya: black. | 00:06 |
| kevin9286049 | good question aaditya, not sure what i would do with a red one | 00:07 |
| aaditya | I'd use pepper spray on it and then watch it squirm. | 00:07 |
| aaditya | ...before I start squirming myself. | 00:08 |
| kevin9286049 | yeah, i wouldn't do that | 00:09 |
| iheartubuntu1 | i cant believe nhaines got out of DMV so quick! nice job | 02:55 |
| akk | Last time I had to go to DMV, what worked best: check the waiting times at all the local DMVs and rush to the one with the shortest waiting time. | 02:58 |
| akk | It's really helpful having that info online. | 02:58 |
| iheartubuntu1 | i told them to go to another DMV too | 03:04 |
| akk | Appointments at the DMV often don't seem to save any time. | 03:04 |
| akk | The appt line is shorter but sometimes they also call the numbers less often. | 03:05 |
| akk | But they use that horrid system of random letters where it's impossible to estimate how much time is left. :( | 03:05 |
| pleia2 | california's dmv is pretty horrible all around (at least the location in SF) | 03:06 |
| akk | In SF you're not supposed to do car stuff anyway. :) | 03:07 |
| nhaines | akk: haha, that's what I did! They released an Android app just a couple days ago. | 03:10 |
| nhaines | The plan was to survey all the non-appointment times for all local DMVs and then rush to the northernmost one. But the jokes on me, I went south 10 miles. :( | 03:11 |
| pleia2 | akk: even though I don't drive much, I needed a license | 03:12 |
| pleia2 | states get cranky if I keep my PA license! | 03:13 |
| nhaines | pleia2: state ID card> | 03:13 |
| akk | I was joking, pleia2, honest! | 03:13 |
| pleia2 | hehe | 03:13 |
| akk | And she'd need to go to the DMV even for an ID card. | 03:13 |
| pleia2 | new jersey DMV is pretty awful too | 03:13 |
| pleia2 | both would be better if they hired nice people (or didn't ruin people by making their jobs horrible?) | 03:16 |
| nhaines | akk: just to keep her PA driver's license, I mean. :) | 03:16 |
| nhaines | Everyone wass actually super friendly at the DMV today. | 03:16 |
| akk | That helps! | 03:17 |
| akk | Though I think friendliness and short lines tend to go together. | 03:17 |
| akk | The super-crowded DMVs and post offices get customers grumpy about having waited so long, so they're rude to the staff, so the staff get grumpy too. | 03:17 |
| pleia2 | yeah | 03:18 |
| pleia2 | they should have a greeter! | 03:18 |
| akk | ew, I hate greeters | 03:18 |
| pleia2 | hehe | 03:18 |
| akk | DMV does usually have a greeter, though ... a "start here" person who gives you the appropriate line-waiting number/letter combo. | 03:19 |
| pleia2 | well, instead there was a guy walking around yelling at people for being in the wrong lines and having the wrong forms, and refusing to tell anyone the right line or right form to use | 03:19 |
| pleia2 | ^^ the "start here" guy | 03:19 |
| nhaines | haha | 03:19 |
| akk | great! how helpful | 03:19 |
| pleia2 | and I didn't bring a pen, I got yelled at for that too, they don't have pens | 03:19 |
| akk | How evil of you not to know that! I bet you were deliberately trying to slow down their who operation, pleia2. | 03:20 |
| pleia2 | that's me! | 03:21 |
| iheartubuntu1 | :D | 03:23 |
| iheartubuntu1 | ahhh... DMV. | 03:23 |
| iheartubuntu1 | :) | 03:29 |
| pleia2 | my speakers are unhappy when move the screen on my netbook :( | 03:29 |
| pleia2 | the speaker wires in hinges are probably unwell | 03:29 |
| iheartubuntu1 | sucks! | 03:29 |
| akk | aw, your netbook isn't that old! | 03:30 |
| akk | no fair | 03:30 |
| pleia2 | almost 2.5 years, isn't that old in laptop years? :) | 03:30 |
| akk | Wow, is it? I thought it was under a year. | 03:30 |
| pleia2 | nah, got it for christmas in 2008 | 03:31 |
| akk | I'm not the person to ask, though, the person who's still using a mobile pentium laptop. :) | 03:31 |
| pleia2 | yeah, my real laptop is a p3 (this is a netbook!) | 03:31 |
| pleia2 | but the p3 is almost done, it can't do wifi anymore | 03:31 |
| pleia2 | no built in wifi, and the pcmcia slots are toast | 03:31 |
| nhaines | Aww. | 03:32 |
| akk | d got his p3 laptop's pcmcia slot repaired a while back (but now he has a newer netbook). | 03:32 |
| akk | My p3 still works, but I don't use it much 'cause I like the wider WXGA screen on the other laptop. | 03:33 |
| nhaines | Well, so much for nethack. I managed to feed my pony and retame him but depsite the trapdoor getting me to level 3, the return to level 2 for my pony claimed my life. | 04:44 |
| * pleia2 chuckles | 04:48 | |
| pleia2 | Flannel: Eureka has gone walkabout again! | 06:04 |
| pleia2 | anyway, finally got around to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/TeamReports/11/March | 06:04 |
| pleia2 | please add to it if I've missed anything :) | 06:05 |
| pleia2 | and figured it was time to archive the 2010 meetings | 06:09 |
| kevin9286049 | i thought this was cute: "squishy circuits" http://091labs.com/2011/04/ted-talk-squishy-circuits/ | 16:20 |
| iheartubuntu | i like the panel format too pleia2 | 17:01 |
| pleia2 | as a panelist or attendee? | 17:05 |
| * pleia2 gives Eureka a botsnack | 17:15 | |
| iheartubuntu | panelist | 17:15 |
| iheartubuntu | i did this in 1999 at a reggae conference up in san jose. worked quite well and no one was under any pressure really. very relaxed | 17:17 |
| * iheartubuntu used to have natty dreadlocks (if u could believe) | 17:18 | |
| kevin9286049 | hey everybody. iheartubuntu, how's the back doing? | 17:18 |
| iheartubuntu | a little better today thanks | 17:18 |
| iheartubuntu | doing simple stretches | 17:18 |
| kevin9286049 | right on | 17:18 |
| iheartubuntu | hot showers | 17:18 |
| iheartubuntu | i was going to go to chiro yest, but i thought id wait till monday | 17:19 |
| iheartubuntu | if its still bad i'll go, but its getting better slowly. | 17:19 |
| kevin9286049 | chiro? | 17:19 |
| iheartubuntu | chiropractor | 17:19 |
| kevin9286049 | ah | 17:19 |
| iheartubuntu | i notice when im in shape i never need him :) | 17:20 |
| iheartubuntu | when im out of shape, i always need him (but never go) | 17:20 |
| kevin9286049 | i don't think i've ever been to one | 17:21 |
| kevin9286049 | never been much of a fan | 17:21 |
| iheartubuntu | another big quake in japan | 17:21 |
| sn9 | how big? | 17:22 |
| pleia2 | 7.4 | 17:22 |
| sn9 | ouch | 17:22 |
| akk | quite big :( | 17:22 |
| sn9 | tsunami expected? | 17:22 |
| akk | I heard they cancelled the tsunami alert, but I'm not sure if that was a reliable source | 17:22 |
| iheartubuntu | these numbers mean nothing to pleia2 :| | 17:23 |
| iheartubuntu | the "tsunami" was 1 meter big | 17:23 |
| iheartubuntu | or 1 meter small | 17:23 |
| iheartubuntu | thankfully nothing like before | 17:23 |
| iheartubuntu | i dont think ive ever experienced a 7.4 | 17:24 |
| iheartubuntu | and dont want to | 17:24 |
| sn9 | how big was the northridge quake in '94? | 17:24 |
| iheartubuntu | 6.7 | 17:24 |
| kevin9286049 | there was a 7.x in the 80s | 17:25 |
| kevin9286049 | first earthquake i remember | 17:25 |
| akk | In california? Where? | 17:25 |
| sn9 | kevin9286049: 1989 | 17:25 |
| iheartubuntu | the montebello one? | 17:25 |
| kevin9286049 | sn9: sounds about right | 17:25 |
| sn9 | loma prieta | 17:25 |
| akk | No, 1989 was 6.9 (loma prieta) | 17:25 |
| kevin9286049 | oh i think whittier | 17:25 |
| iheartubuntu | yah whittier | 17:25 |
| iheartubuntu | i dont know if it was over 7.0 tho | 17:25 |
| iheartubuntu | whittier was 1987 | 17:26 |
| iheartubuntu | 6.0 | 17:26 |
| iheartubuntu | i was on top of that one at the epicenter. that was bad where i was | 17:26 |
| kevin9286049 | hmmm weird | 17:26 |
| sn9 | akk: the initial reports were 6.9, soon revised to 7.1, but that was on the richter, while the MMA scale said 7.0, later revised to 6.9 | 17:26 |
| kevin9286049 | yeah, says 5.9 | 17:26 |
| iheartubuntu | the ground buckled and the windows on my school flexed in and out like a soapy bubble | 17:26 |
| kevin9286049 | for whittier that is | 17:26 |
| iheartubuntu | then they broke | 17:26 |
| akk | sn9: Went the other way here -- initial reports were 7.1, revised down to 6.9 a few days later. | 17:27 |
| akk | whittier narrows in '87 was only 5.9 | 17:27 |
| akk | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_20th-century_earthquakes | 17:27 |
| sn9 | akk: my memory is not THAT faulty | 17:27 |
| pleia2 | iheartubuntu: I wouldn't say they "mean nothing to me" - I've watched lots of documentaries about earthquakes! | 17:28 |
| akk | sn9: I was working in SF, got to see the bay bridge out the window ... I remember it pretty clearly. :) | 17:28 |
| iheartubuntu | well :) in terms of being in a first big shaker | 17:28 |
| akk | (fortunately that building was on bedrock so we were fine, just lost power and had a long evening listening to someone's battery radio) | 17:28 |
| iheartubuntu | you know all about them. i hope u never experience one. what i dont like is they just appear, you have no time to plan. | 17:29 |
| sn9 | akk: the snarled traffic on sunset blvd from dead stoplights led people to get out of their cars and yell "6.9!!!" | 17:29 |
| kevin9286049 | thanks for the link akk. i'm starting to think more earthquakes occur in northern california than down here | 17:30 |
| kevin9286049 | what about the earthquake simulator, been in plenty of those | 17:31 |
| akk | sn9: You could tell at work who the native californians were -- we were leaning against the wall going "7.1." "Naw, just a 6.8." "C'mon, this has got to be at least 7.3." | 17:31 |
| iheartubuntu | LA is due for one a decent sized one. so northridge was the last one around here? thats been a while then | 17:31 |
| akk | sn9: and everybody else was going "OMG! We're going to die!!" | 17:32 |
| sn9 | akk: i didn't actually feel it, being in a moving vehicle on 280 coming back from venrock | 17:32 |
| akk | We were on the fourth floor so we got some decent swaying. (I'm glad I wasn't in a skyscraper!) | 17:33 |
| akk | It felt like it lasted a really long time -- everybody overestimated the duration afterward. | 17:33 |
| pleia2 | they tell me the ground beneath my building may liquify | 17:33 |
| akk | pleia2: :( | 17:33 |
| iheartubuntu | i was at home with some popcorn getting ready for the ballgame | 17:33 |
| iheartubuntu | are u in a newer building? | 17:34 |
| pleia2 | iheartubuntu: yeah, built in 2004 | 17:34 |
| iheartubuntu | ohh not bad | 17:34 |
| akk | LA's weird, hard to predict 'cause the quakes always seem to come on previously un-noticed faults instead of the big ones. | 17:34 |
| akk | In the bay area it'll almost certainly be the San Andreas or the Hayward. | 17:34 |
| sn9 | pleia2: yes, that part of town has some of the worst soil | 17:34 |
| akk | (though the Calaveras has been doing a lot of little quakes lately, but it's right next to the Hayward) | 17:35 |
| pleia2 | they /say/ it's "fine" through a 7.0 and even worse than that it won't fall down (but may have unrepairable structural damage) | 17:35 |
| akk | Not falling down is good, The rest is the building owner's problem. | 17:36 |
| kevin9286049 | /they/ say lots of things | 17:37 |
| pleia2 | unfortunately we own, so we are partially building owners, we'd pretty much be sunk | 17:37 |
| iheartubuntu | literally and... | 17:38 |
| pleia2 | indeed! | 17:38 |
| kevin9286049 | how many stories is your building pleia2 ? | 17:38 |
| sn9 | it's tall. | 17:38 |
| pleia2 | the HOA actually looked into earthquake insurance, but the deductable was $5 million and it was something like $50/mo extra in dues for each unit | 17:38 |
| pleia2 | kevin9286049: 16 | 17:38 |
| pleia2 | stories | 17:38 |
| sn9 | the CEA made earthquake insurance completely unattainable, whereas it was previously a nobrainer | 17:39 |
| kevin9286049 | well, i guess you'd own like 1/160th of the plot if the building was totally destroyed | 17:39 |
| kevin9286049 | that is still valuable realestate | 17:40 |
| kevin9286049 | not sure how much it would cost to build a new building there though | 17:40 |
| iheartubuntu | i dont think you own the land in america anymore. just the property on top of it | 17:40 |
| kevin9286049 | i wonder if you saved $200,000 if that would be enough to cover the cost of rebuilding a single unit | 17:40 |
| sn9 | kevin9286049: depends where | 17:40 |
| sn9 | oops | 17:40 |
| sn9 | iheartubuntu: depends where | 17:41 |
| pleia2 | yeah, our deed includes elevation (I joked that if we sink, do we get the unit above us? :D) | 17:41 |
| kevin9286049 | you own a 3d cube in the sky | 17:41 |
| iheartubuntu | sn9 - there is only one or two states now that allow full ownership. i think NH is one of them. i would have to double check | 17:41 |
| kevin9286049 | i never thought of it that way before | 17:41 |
| sn9 | iheartubuntu: also depends where in each state | 17:42 |
| sn9 | most states have local ordinances that control it to a finer grain | 17:42 |
| kevin9286049 | when i owned a condo, it was pretty much believed that if the condo was destroyed, that a new one would be built | 17:44 |
| kevin9286049 | but i never checked the cc&rs or my deed to really check what land was mine | 17:44 |
| kevin9286049 | well, that's not exactly true | 17:45 |
| akk | My understanding (which may be wrong) is that the diff between a condo and a house/townhouse is that with a condo you don't own the land underneath, with the others you do. | 17:45 |
| akk | And surely with farms and things, the whole point is owning the land? So in what way do you not really own it? | 17:45 |
| akk | I know sometimes mineral and water rights are split out separately. | 17:45 |
| kevin9286049 | it was all parceled out. so i owned this unit, this garage space on the deed | 17:45 |
| pleia2 | the decision of whether to rebuild here would be upon the owners, who would mostly be banks and things once we all declare bankruptcy :\ | 17:45 |
| iheartubuntu | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allodial_title | 17:46 |
| kevin9286049 | well, if your unit is ont he bottom floor then i suppose you own that piece of the land | 17:46 |
| kevin9286049 | if that's true, then it may be in the interest of "banks and things" for your building to collapse O_O | 17:46 |
| kevin9286049 | scary | 17:47 |
| kevin9286049 | i hope there aren't crony capitalists staring at buildings wishing they would collapse | 17:47 |
| pleia2 | no, I don't think they actually want to own a pile of rubble when mortgages are defaulted on | 17:47 |
| iheartubuntu | with eminent domain there is no such thing as true ownership in america anymore. a few states give you limited allodial titles | 17:48 |
| kevin9286049 | as long as you're paying your mortgage, i suppose not pleia2 | 17:49 |
| akk | I'm trying to make sense of that wikipedia page but, well, kinda tl;dr if you're just trying to answer "in what way don't I own my backyard"? | 17:49 |
| kevin9286049 | well, you'd have to pay off your mortgage first anyway iheartubuntu | 17:49 |
| pleia2 | kevin9286049: I suspect most people living here aren't wealthy enough to continue paying for a mortgage for a place they can no longer live in (we certainly aren't) | 17:49 |
| kevin9286049 | it kind of makes me wonder exactly who gets shafted when a mortgage is defaulted on | 17:50 |
| kevin9286049 | anyway, i just heard about this game: http://springrts.com/wiki/Ubuntu_install | 17:52 |
| kevin9286049 | i don't really have any projects to work on today | 17:52 |
| kevin9286049 | i better go find some | 17:53 |
| kevin9286049 | oh yeah, i'm following a house representative on twitter | 17:54 |
| kevin9286049 | i couldn't find feinstein or boxer on twitter | 17:54 |
| iheartubuntu | ive heard of that company before | 17:55 |
| iheartubuntu | they make the game http://www.spring1944.org/ | 17:55 |
| iheartubuntu | but i never did get it installed | 17:55 |
| kevin9286049 | i haven't installed it either, i don't expect it to run very well on my hardware | 17:56 |
| kevin9286049 | i wonder if it's multiplayer | 17:56 |
| kevin9286049 | that would be cool | 17:56 |
| iheartubuntu | 6.5 quake in mexico now | 17:56 |
| kevin9286049 | an rts that runs natively on linux | 17:56 |
| kevin9286049 | rolling earthquakes | 17:56 |
| kevin9286049 | well, i was thinking that i think buildings in SF that are surrounded by other buildings are unlikely to fall down | 17:57 |
| kevin9286049 | the only way that it would is with like dynamite placed in the right spot | 17:57 |
| iheartubuntu | k, lets not worry pleia2 too much! | 17:57 |
| kevin9286049 | i said *unlikely* | 17:58 |
| pleia2 | I'm not actually worried :) | 17:58 |
| kevin9286049 | not likely | 17:58 |
| kevin9286049 | she's working on her acting, bravo! | 17:58 |
| kevin9286049 | i thought you were worried too | 17:58 |
| kevin9286049 | i wonder if nancy pelosi is on twitter | 17:59 |
| pleia2 | there are many things in life that can go wrong, can't do much about earthquakes, worrying wastes cycles | 17:59 |
| kevin9286049 | indeed she is | 17:59 |
| pleia2 | as far as things that can go wrong I think terminal illness and loss of health insurance is probably higher on the list | 18:00 |
| kevin9286049 | worrying is inefficient thinking | 18:00 |
| pleia2 | (I have a cousin the ICU because she couldn't afford to go to the doctor and let a flu turn into life-threatening pneumonia) | 18:00 |
| * pleia2 does worry about her :( | 18:00 | |
| akk | :( | 18:01 |
| kevin9286049 | there really isn't much $ in preventive medicine | 18:01 |
| kevin9286049 | i really don't worry much about people anymore | 18:01 |
| kevin9286049 | i got tired of my concern being impotent | 18:01 |
| akk | Preventative medicine is too expensive for a lot of people. | 18:02 |
| kevin9286049 | a lot of people have died in my family the last couple years | 18:02 |
| kevin9286049 | starting in 2007 when my uncle died | 18:02 |
| kevin9286049 | there are lots of ways things can be expensive. time is one of them. | 18:03 |
| pleia2 | hehe, michael paoli's hatred of vim is epic http://www.weak.org/pipermail/buug/2011-April/003751.html | 18:04 |
| pleia2 | I do sympathize with the frustration that vi is aliased to vim in a lot of distros | 18:05 |
| pleia2 | (I don't care for plain vi, but if I did I'd be annoyed) | 18:05 |
| iheartubuntu | preventive medicine is probably best... such as... going on a walk and doing some exercises so i dont have back problems | 18:05 |
| pleia2 | hehe | 18:06 |
| akk | Isn't it pretty much a superset? (I guess I should read the flame) | 18:06 |
| iheartubuntu | maybei mean "care" and not medicine | 18:06 |
| akk | :q! always quits vim for me | 18:06 |
| pleia2 | yeah, I've never had a problem either | 18:07 |
| iheartubuntu | hope she gets better pleia2 - is she stabilized now and doing better? | 18:08 |
| pleia2 | iheartubuntu: it's still quite touch and go, a bunch of family members flew/drove to NY to be with her | 18:09 |
| nhaines | I've said it before, vi(m) has two modes: beep repeatedly and break everything. | 18:23 |
| iheartubuntu | thats good lyz | 18:28 |
| MarkDude | awesome Comcastic install http://twitpic.com/4hz4qy# | 18:59 |
| MarkDude | akk here is the earliest agreed upon start of the name. You can see that mr happy breakfast taco guy entered the fray also | 19:01 |
| kevin9286049 | i finished installing this: http://springrts.com/wiki/Ubuntu_install | 19:04 |
| kevin9286049 | trying to log into a game now | 19:05 |
| nhaines | What type of game is it? | 19:06 |
| kevin9286049 | rts | 19:07 |
| kevin9286049 | i'm going to play with a touchpad | 19:08 |
| nhaines | I understand that. | 19:08 |
| kevin9286049 | i'm doomed | 19:08 |
| iheartubuntu | is that the tank game? | 19:11 |
| iheartubuntu | or just the engine for all of their games | 19:12 |
| iheartubuntu | their star wars games looks nice http://www.imperialwinter.com/ | 19:13 |
| kevin9286049 | it's like a port of this game "total annihilation" | 19:16 |
| iheartubuntu | kev... it looks like that install page is just the engine for all the games in their games section | 19:16 |
| kevin9286049 | i'm not having much luck playing it though | 19:16 |
| kevin9286049 | iheartubuntu: yeah, if you log in to a multiplayer game it downloads the game for you | 19:17 |
| iheartubuntu | how big is the install | 19:17 |
| kevin9286049 | i think like ~80MB iheartubuntu | 19:55 |
| kevin9286049 | it doesn't run that well on my system though | 19:55 |
| kevin9286049 | intel graphics are terrible for 3d | 19:55 |
| kevin9286049 | which isn't exactly a secret | 19:55 |
| kevin9286049 | i should stop chasing waterfalls | 19:55 |
| kevin9286049 | i just watched a game though, was kind of interesting | 19:55 |
| kevin9286049 | i see, the commercials on dailyshow are representative of the age demographic | 20:25 |
| nhaines | Woo, just cleared the first level in Nethack... even found a vault for the first time! | 20:30 |
| iheartubuntu | nhaines - are you playing the original nethack or the 3D fork of it | 21:08 |
| nhaines | iheartubuntu: the original. The 3D fork wouldn't work so well over ssh on a vps with 64MB RAM and no X. :) | 21:09 |
| nhaines | From my Android phone at lunch. ;) | 21:10 |
| iheartubuntu | ohhh :x | 21:10 |
| iheartubuntu | wow, a post on twitter about back pain and im getting "back pain" adverts now | 21:42 |
| The_Letter_M | lol | 21:42 |
| iheartubuntu | im guessing its some twitter bot that picked up my keyword | 21:46 |
| nhaines | Hmm, a partial upgrade of Unity.... looks like I shouldn't reboot at the moment. ;) | 21:58 |
| The_Letter_M | Anyone familiar with connecting Dreamweaver to MySQL5.1; the SQL server in Linux and DW in Windows? | 22:22 |
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| iheartubuntu | not at all sorry. i can get dreamweaver to work in ubuntu, but every time there is a wine update it messes up my dreamweaver | 22:28 |
| iheartubuntu | so ive just stopped using it | 22:28 |
| nhaines | iheartubuntu: that's not what he asked. :) | 22:28 |
| The_Letter_M | oh | 22:30 |
| iheartubuntu | i know :) | 22:30 |
| The_Letter_M | What I have is Ubuntu with the LAMP Stack and then Virtualbox running WinXP with Dreamweaver running on it. | 22:31 |
| iheartubuntu | but i stopped using it because if wine upgrades | 22:31 |
| The_Letter_M | hehe | 22:31 |
| iheartubuntu | so dreamweaver is in XP virtually | 22:31 |
| The_Letter_M | I got MySQL configured so that it accepts remote connections and made a user for the remote connection | 22:32 |
| iheartubuntu | and mysql works in linux | 22:32 |
| The_Letter_M | but when Dreamweaver tries to connect it gives me "an unidentified error has occurred" | 22:32 |
| The_Letter_M | yes MySQL is working fine | 22:33 |
| The_Letter_M | the person I am doing this for has a site using Joomla with mySQL running on it | 22:33 |
| The_Letter_M | I think DW is just retarded | 22:35 |
| The_Letter_M | lol | 22:45 |
| kevin6888296 | dreamweaver is connecting to mysql over the network then | 22:45 |
| The_Letter_M | Adobe has the worst forum search tool I have ever seen | 22:45 |
| The_Letter_M | well when I go to configure DW to connect to sql, it says "An Unidentified error has occurred" | 22:46 |
| kevin6888296 | yeah, i got that earlier | 22:47 |
| kevin6888296 | i'm assuming you already checked the web for the error | 22:47 |
| The_Letter_M | and I can connect to the sql server using the mysql command on another machine | 22:47 |
| The_Letter_M | Yeah. I've been googling all afternoon | 22:48 |
| kevin6888296 | so you can connect to the mysql server from another machine over the network? | 22:48 |
| The_Letter_M | yeah | 22:48 |
| kevin6888296 | you can try using google to search the adobe forums | 22:49 |
| iheartubuntu | thats what i was thinking. can you msql from within windows?, not using dreamweaver | 22:49 |
| kevin6888296 | there's probably an app for that | 22:49 |
| kevin6888296 | oh yeah, odbc should be able to connect to mysql | 22:50 |
| iheartubuntu | in the Windows Software Center? :) | 22:50 |
| kevin6888296 | you mean Best Buy or Amazon? :P | 22:50 |
| The_Letter_M | yeah | 22:50 |
| iheartubuntu | you might need a student ID to buy something for windows. its a lot cheaper | 22:51 |
| kevin6888296 | there was a free odbc connector i used awhile ago that was a windows program | 22:51 |
| kevin6888296 | had a little sql window and everything | 22:51 |
| The_Letter_M | I can connect from another Linux box. I didn't try the ODBC stuff in Windows though | 22:51 |
| iheartubuntu | can i migrate the files back to ubuntu and the do mysql from ubuntu | 22:51 |
| iheartubuntu | might be easier then dealing with dreamweaver or windows | 22:51 |
| kevin6888296 | maybe that's how dreamweaver wants you to do it, through odbc | 22:51 |
| The_Letter_M | No | 22:51 |
| The_Letter_M | Dreamweaver seems to only support MySQL | 22:52 |
| kevin6888296 | you should be able to test the connection to mysql from the odbc thingamabob in windows too | 22:52 |
| kevin6888296 | that's hard to believe, but i don't have dreamweaver | 22:52 |
| iheartubuntu | if you dont weave dreams then you probably dont have dreamweaver | 22:54 |
| * kevin6888296 laughs | 22:54 | |
| kevin6888296 | i haven't recalled a dream in like two days | 22:54 |
| kevin6888296 | which is unusual for me | 22:54 |
| iheartubuntu | so you dont have total recall | 22:55 |
| kevin6888296 | of my dreams? no | 22:55 |
| kevin6888296 | even when i do remember them i have to write them down | 22:55 |
| kevin6888296 | actually, i should read my dream journal | 22:55 |
| kevin6888296 | it can be an interesting read | 22:55 |
| iheartubuntu | there is a great site.. dont know where i found it... where u can input your dreams into a database and it will collectively use the info to make predictions | 22:56 |
| iheartubuntu | http://www.halfpasthuman.com/ | 22:58 |
| iheartubuntu | i found the dream archive site through there | 22:59 |
| iheartubuntu | half past human was designed by a guy who invented (for microsoft) to predict the stock exchange | 22:59 |
| iheartubuntu | after he left MS he started using his software to predict world events | 23:00 |
| kdub | i never remember my dreams | 23:00 |
| akk | I remember tiny snippets and moods, which usually dissolve within minutes no matter how hard I try to hold on. | 23:04 |
| kevin6888296 | it takes work to recall dreams | 23:06 |
| kevin6888296 | iheartubuntu: sounds like wacky 2012 stuff | 23:06 |
| kevin6888296 | when i wake up and recall a dream, i try to connect a single word to the dream | 23:06 |
| kevin6888296 | then i extrapolate from that single word | 23:07 |
| kevin6888296 | it has worked in the past | 23:07 |
| akk | http://xkcd.com/430/ | 23:08 |
| kevin6888296 | nuclear bombs, synchronicity between halfpasthuman.com and xkcd.com | 23:12 |
| The_Letter_M | I have returned | 23:15 |
| The_Letter_M | test | 23:16 |
| The_Letter_M | I wish selecting a color scheme for Xchat was more simple | 23:17 |
| akk | The GTK theme part is easy, but setting the nick colors is insane. | 23:22 |
| The_Letter_M | yeah | 23:22 |
| akk | (well, gtk themes have issues too but at least they're fairly well known issues) | 23:23 |
| The_Letter_M | I just prefer a dark color scheme with a transparent background | 23:23 |
| The_Letter_M | and so I have to change every color to look alright | 23:23 |
| iheartubuntu | "What I want from a restaurant website"... http://theoatmeal.com/comics/restaurant_website | 23:23 |
| kevin6888296 | i used xchat, i used irssi, i used xchat, i used irssi, i used empathy, i use irssi | 23:24 |
| The_Letter_M | lol | 23:24 |
| kevin6888296 | do you use compiz The_Letter_M ? | 23:24 |
| The_Letter_M | No | 23:25 |
| The_Letter_M | I use Xfce instead of Gnome | 23:25 |
| kevin6888296 | oh well | 23:26 |
| iheartubuntu | Cat VS. The Internet.... http://theoatmeal.com/comics/cat_vs_internet | 23:26 |
| kevin6888296 | btw iheartubuntu cool post on tuxgames.com | 23:26 |
| The_Letter_M | I'll probably leave Xfce for Unity when the final release is out later this month | 23:29 |
| kevin6888296 | iheartubuntu: my cat used to lay on my lap >_< | 23:31 |
| kevin6888296 | compiz has color inversion, i just use that at night | 23:32 |
| The_Letter_M | oh | 23:32 |
| The_Letter_M | I tried Compiz with Gnome for a while on my lappy | 23:32 |
| The_Letter_M | it seemed like a resource hog | 23:33 |
| iheartubuntu | my cat lays on my keyboard to get me to pet him. or starts pressing keys if he is pissed off | 23:33 |
| The_Letter_M | in Xfce I enable the built in window compositing and it runs smooth and I've never seen it get choppy | 23:33 |
| kevin6888296 | type with right hand, pet with left hand | 23:35 |
| kevin6888296 | don't pretend you can't one hand type >_> | 23:35 |
| The_Letter_M | lol | 23:36 |
| kevin6888296 | does it have color inversion? | 23:36 |
| kevin6888296 | i used compiz by itself for awhile | 23:36 |
| kevin6888296 | that was...interesting | 23:36 |
| kevin6888296 | it would have been fine if there was a widget or something for nm-applet | 23:36 |
| kevin6888296 | that's all i really needed a panel for | 23:37 |
| kevin6888296 | oh, well, yeah it got kind of annoying tabbing through apps | 23:37 |
| akk | nm can work without a panel now, though of course it's not as supported as the normal applet stuff. | 23:38 |
| MarkDude | Creative commons the 25th at HP http://www.eventbrite.com/event/1505289361/efbnen | 23:46 |
| kevin6888296 | oh, it wasn't about "not working" | 23:47 |
| kevin6888296 | it just wasn't as nice without having the icon readily available, or even easy to pull up if necessary | 23:47 |
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