[03:04] this is the first wednesday :/ [03:04] no meeting [03:04] we got our official status [03:04] and kinda died off [03:04] unfortunately [03:05] or fortunately, depending on how you look at it [03:05] ive gotten busy [03:05] and cant really help out as much as i was once before [03:05] but, we should try and have a brainstroming via mailing list [03:05] or here [03:05] cause, its dead like disco in here [03:12] <_marx_> disco is dead? [03:13] <_marx_> i'm up at five tomorrow [03:13] <_marx_> on the road by 6 [03:13] disco is what it is [03:13] this channel/team is dead [03:17] <_marx_> i came in in late '08 or so [03:17] <_marx_> bored unemployed Carpenter [03:17] well, as of 10:14pm EST today [03:18] this place is dry [03:18] _marx_: you still having ubuntu hours at crankies? [03:18] <_marx_> geeks are lame, too busy making money or coding or living just like us blue collar types [03:19] <_marx_> been working saturdays lately [03:19] <_marx_> booked this sat [03:19] <_marx_> should be 150 or so cash [03:19] how about 11.04 release parties? [03:20] <_marx_> close to my birthday every time [03:21] <_marx_> i'm not inspired to do anything other than pay my bills [03:22] <_marx_> su lost her job a month ago [03:22] drag [03:27] <_marx_> how to pay the next round of bills is much more important to me than...most anything i can think of [03:28] i hear you [03:28] its tough right now for sure [03:28] who is team lead now? [03:29] <_marx_> i believe the contact is amber [03:30] contact? [03:30] or team lead? [03:30] i dont think amber thinks she is the team lead [03:30] <_marx_> w/canonical it's the same [03:31] <_marx_> afaik [03:31] well, we should probably figure out who the team lead is [03:31] thats probably a good reason why the team/channel is dying [03:35] * holstein sent an email [03:35] we'll figure out whos who [03:35] <_marx_> "leading" a loco has a definition somewhere [03:35] and whats what [03:36] <_marx_> where's that cat herding video? [03:36] _marx_: i was under the impression you were the leader [03:36] <_marx_> fuckina [03:36] <_marx_> i can't be, i cuss too much [03:36] hehe [03:40] <_marx_> seriously there are lots of reasons i'm not a good leader [03:40] <_marx_> besides not leading [03:40] well, thats beside the point actually [03:40] if you arent the team lead [03:40] thats fine [03:40] <_marx_> i have no contacts in any computer industry [03:40] we just need someone to do something [03:41] <_marx_> i did already two three years ago [03:41] <_marx_> well two anyway [03:42] <_marx_> i'm stil a 50, yes Fifty something carpenter grandfather... [03:42] congrats [03:42] <_marx_> not yer typical linux user or loco team leader [03:43] <_marx_> 5 grandkids [03:43] <_marx_> that ain't new [03:43] BugeyeD: i remember you saying you were an X guy right? [03:43] im having some issues with XDMX [03:44] wondering if you had any suggestions... [03:44] holstein: i used to know my way around the x config, sure. don't know what xdmx is, though. [03:44] im using it to fake a 2nd monitor [03:44] with an old laptop [03:44] and its working well [03:45] but im getting some strange keyboard behavior [03:45] while the server is running [03:45] and after i disconnect [03:45] and #xorg is ice-ing me ;) [03:45] <_marx_> '02 or so i did a plug meeting on dual monitors on a P233 [03:45] i'll keep fiddling [03:46] _marx_: with XDMX ? [03:46] holstein: no idea about xdmx, sorry. and i'm too tired to be helpful right now even if i'd seen it before. :( [03:46] <_marx_> a p233 w/2 monitors, no [03:47] <_marx_> holstein: didn't exist then [03:47] yeah> [03:47] ? [03:47] interesting [03:48] maybe thats why im having a hard time getting help [03:48] i thought it was old [03:48] <_marx_> i don't even recall for sure what it ran, likely mandrake [05:33] <_marx_> holstein: i can prolly do the winston ubuntu hour this month [05:34] i was just wondering if you were doing it still [05:35] and if anyone was coming/interested [05:35] im not trying to say you *should* be [05:35] anyhow [05:35] GN.. [05:41] <_marx_> well can be, money to be made [05:44] <_marx_> give up $150 when i could really use it or go meet.. [06:06] * _marx_ a 10+ year desktop linux user [06:06] <_marx_> and that is all* [16:00] _marx_: i'll be outta town saturday (leaving today, back sunday nite) [16:01] i've been a few times myself, so we can prolly still mark up a couple of UH's if we wanted to. the kids love it there. they like sitting next to me, myself on my laptop and them on their olpc laptop playing games. [16:02] of course, the hot chocolate and gargantuan cookies don't hurt their feelings either. [16:03] i'm so oversubscribed now that i don't think i'd be a good team lead either. [16:03] but if you need someone to step in so there will be someone to "blame" then i'm used to that too. :) [16:03] i wasnt trying to say _marx_ should be hosting the UH's [16:03] yeah, SURE you weren't. [16:03] :) [16:03] i was just trying to guage if they were still happening [16:03] what the interest level was like [16:04] we still do from time to time. our last one saw someone from greensboro show up. [16:04] i was really hoping someone else in our local LUG would take that on [16:04] and either host an UH [16:04] or maybe even an ubuntu users group [16:04] seperate from the LUG [16:04] i go every other week or so for a few hours and take the kids. i've had a few folks stop to talk because of the kids and the linux stickers all over their little green/white laptops. [16:04] i just cant do it [16:04] but our LUG is growing quite nicely :) [16:05] we have a problem in our area. i think we have plenty of folks who "would have been" interested, but [16:05] well, thats fine though [16:05] a long-standing lug in our area has given most of them a _very_ bad taste ... [16:05] and the UH's dont have everything to do with the team [16:05] i just think its a good potential recruiting tool [16:05] good point [16:08] on another note, nginx rocks. it's so much better than apache, at least for my current purposes. [16:08] cool [16:08] its nice to find the proper tool [16:10] varnish looks nice too, and i may start using that for certain things. it has a constant-size ram cache which works very well. [16:10] just wish i didn't have to deal with php ... [16:10] sql is the one that i always google about [16:10] and paste in whatever blindly [16:12] BugeyeD: i think it would be nice if one of you 'old-schoolers' took over for _marx_ [16:12] but thats just my opinion [16:12] and i totally understand being too busy [16:12] the sql doesn't bother me; it's the php layer between the sql and the user that gives me nightmares. so many security holes ... [16:13] who you calling old? [16:13] heh [16:13] hehe [16:13] i wouldn't mind, i'm used to getting blamed. [16:13] BugeyeD: give its some thought [16:14] i'll be pushing the issue as i make/have time [16:14] gotta run... BBL [16:14] l8r [23:18] hey y'all who wants to help plan an UbuCon for the Southeast Linux Fest in June? [23:18] space is secured already! [23:20] o/ [23:20] akgraner: im actually pretty sure i cant be there already :/ [23:20] but i'll help out if i can [23:23] thanks! I'll make a list of what all needs to be done and send it to the mailing list over the next few days [23:25] totally forgot about the team meeting - I am neck deep in work and a book atm ...but my schedule should get back to *normal* (what ever that is) after UDS :-) [23:25] akgraner: no worries [23:25] i have a message out to the list [23:25] to determine who is the team lead [23:26] and i'll try and make some time to stoke the fire a bit ;) [23:26] :) [23:26] oh crap - I think I am still listed as the team lead [23:26] akgraner: yeah? [23:26] this last cycle was crazy for me... [23:26] i see you as contanct [23:26] _marx_'s said contact = team lead [23:26] I thought that is what we decided.. [23:27] but i was asuming _marx_ was team lead [23:27] but I honestly don't mind handing it off... [23:27] anyways, we all no how dead it is here [23:27] yeah :-( [23:27] and im not really in a position right now to do much about it [23:27] but the irc channel isn't the only place for activity [23:27] other than just try and brain-storm here and there [23:27] akgraner: true [23:28] i think the whole she-bang is kinda dead though :/ [23:28] yeah - I'll be around more after uds - so maybe between now and end of may we can brain-storm some more [23:28] and come up with a plan of attack [23:28] sure [23:28] maybe we could have a barleys meetup [23:29] however, I don't think we are very different from most teams - sometimes participation and activity comes in cycles [23:29] barleys would rock! [23:29] (but more towards the end of may) :-) [23:30] yeah, im totally slammed for now too [23:30] im thinking about going for ubuntu membership [23:32] if i can find a thursday i can make the meeting for sure [23:32] coolieo [23:32] you can also go to one of the other membership boards if you can't make an americas board meeting [23:33] akgraner: good to know [23:33] let me know if you need a testimonial [23:33] i want to make sure scott lavender can go [23:33] or you :) [23:33] and/or [23:34] or more testimonials..make sure to send me the link to your wiki page once you choose a date [23:34] akgraner: will do :) [23:34] im thinking sometime this summer i'll try and make it happen [23:59] awesome!!