[00:24] <canthus13> thafreak: Honeypot? Sounds fun.... :)
[01:53] <Derath-Srvr> Hmmm.... did somehing to screen... looks like it locked my session...
[01:55] <Derath-Srvr> Well, I guess we were the only ones at Ubuntu Hour tonight...
[01:55] <Derath-Srvr> Oh well...
[01:55] <Derath-Srvr> I'll wait until I have confirmation before going to the next one
[01:55] <Unit193> CTRL-a + x will lock it
[01:55] <Unit193> Did you have fun?
[01:56] <Derath-Srvr> Wasn't that type of lock... it froze it, couldn't input or anything...
[01:56] <Derath-Srvr> meg
[01:56] <Derath-Srvr> err meh
[01:58] <canthus13> Derath-Srvr: You hit crtl-S. Flow control.
[01:58] <canthus13> Ctrl-q unfreezes it, I think.
[01:59] <canthus13> http://web.mit.edu/gnu/doc/html/screen_14.html
[01:59] <Derath-Srvr> Ah, that looks like it there
[01:59] <Derath-Srvr> thanks canthus
[02:00] <Derath-Srvr> Hard to tell what I was hitting on my EVo
[02:00] <canthus13> No prob. :)
[02:00] <canthus13> I found out about it the same way you did.. I hit C-s instead of C-a
[02:00] <Derath-Srvr> Still trying to figure how what to hit to detach...
[02:01] <canthus13> C-a D
[02:01] <Derath-Srvr> since doesn't seem like I'm hitting ctrl-a right
[02:01] <canthus13> err. C-a d rather
[02:01] <Derath-Srvr> Okay, and how does that translate to an android with screen keys only
[02:01] <canthus13> A hammer.
[02:01] <Derath-Srvr> lol
[02:01] <Derath-Srvr> Yeah, just been disconnecting lately after getting fed up with it
[02:02] <Derath-Srvr> Let me try, brb
[02:02] <canthus13> that usually works, but sometimes leaves you having to force detach the session the next time you recover it.
[02:03] <Derath-Srvr> That worked...
[02:03] <canthus13> Cool. :)
[02:04] <Derath-Srvr> Although screen doesn't like me changing screen sizes so badly lol
[02:04] <nhandler> Derath-Srvr: You might also like byobu, but it doesn't work that well on tiny mobile devices
[02:04] <Derath-Srvr> Also not in Fedora 10 repos... lol
[02:04] <Derath-Srvr> Yeah I know my server is dated
[02:05] <nhandler> Derath-Srvr: I think it is in the fedora repos, let me check
[02:05] <Derath-Srvr> Core 10...
[02:05] <Derath-Srvr> Which is inaccessible now
[02:05] <Derath-Srvr> Will have to spend time to update to 14-15 sometime...
[02:05] <nhandler> Derath-Srvr: Ah, yeah, probably not. You could get it installed, but not from the repos
[02:06] <Derath-Srvr> Might switch it to CentOS since I dist-update it so infrequently..
[02:07] <Derath-Srvr> Either way, just thought I'd peek in for a bit... laters!
[02:07]  * Derath-Srvr will be idling and idling watching at times
[02:08]  * Derath-Srvr and wishes that spwelton was around as well... oh well
[02:09] <dmcglone> Hello all
[02:11] <Cheri703> hey dmcglone
[02:12] <dmcglone> what's everyone up to this evening?
[02:13]  * Cheri703 is planning a packing list for UDS :)
[02:14] <dmcglone> UDS?
[02:14] <dmcglone> Hello EricR2427
[02:15] <EricR2427> Hello
[02:15] <Cheri703> hey EricR2427
[02:15] <dmcglone> how ya doing?
[02:16] <dmcglone> Cheri703: UDS? what's that?
[02:16] <Cheri703> I pm'd you
[02:17] <EricR2427> hi Cheri703
[02:17] <EricR2427> Doing good, not much new
[02:19] <dmcglone> EricR2427: are you new?
[02:19] <EricR2427> Relatively, I've hung around here a bit
[02:21] <dmcglone> Cool. how long you been using linux?
[02:22] <Unit193> EricR2427: dmcglone is/can be the funny one (at takes the punches ;) )
[02:22] <EricR2427> A couple years, haven't gotten very in-depth for the most part, though
[02:23] <dmcglone> LOL Unit193
[02:23] <dmcglone> I do goof off a lot more than I should
[02:24] <dmcglone> but what fun is it when there's no one to help
[02:24] <dmcglone> :-)
[02:25] <Unit193> I like that I don't have to worry about offending you too  much...
[02:25] <dmcglone> EricR2427: do you like it better than M$?
[02:25] <dmcglone> Unit193: nothing offends me :-)
[02:26] <dmcglone> I'm absolutely not the offensive type
[02:27] <dmcglone> I like hearing differing opinions and considering them. I think it makes me a better person
[02:27] <dmcglone> to each his own :-)
[02:28] <EricR2427> dmcglone: yeah, but I still use the other for games and such
[02:29] <dmcglone> EricR2427: Same here. Command and Conquer Yuri's Revenge is my favorite game
[02:31] <canthus13> yum... fresh pineapple.
[02:31] <Unit193> Anyone smart besides canthus13 that I can pester?
[02:31] <dmcglone> Ah dang!!! send me some!!!!
[02:31]  * Cheri703 coughs at Unit193 *ehem*
[02:31] <Cheri703> :)
[02:32] <canthus13> heh.
[02:32] <dmcglone> Thank god I'm stupid
[02:32] <dmcglone> LOL
[02:32] <canthus13> dmcglone: Kroger had 'em 4 for 5 bucks. :D
[02:32] <dmcglone> but then again I'm smart enough to see Unit193 kissing some major butt
[02:32] <dmcglone> lol
[02:33] <canthus13> might wanna shave it first...
[02:33] <dmcglone> Ahhhhhhh I love pineappl;e
[02:33] <Unit193> Na, he just always has to help me
[02:33] <Unit193> http://paste.ubuntu.com/590526/ <--- that doesn't look too good...
[02:33] <canthus13> Unit193: If I were trying to avoid questions, I'd stay off IRC. :P
[02:34] <canthus13> Unit193: What are the temps?
[02:34] <canthus13> It could be that the threshold is just set too low.
[02:34] <canthus13> /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/<something>/temperature should have the temp.
[02:35]  * Unit193 was trying to see why X(?) keeps going down... (don't think that's it)
[02:35] <dmcglone> Unit193: I never hear you ask questions in here. You're usually quiet unless I drag you out LOL
[02:36] <Unit193> I just ask canthus13 (you're not normally here)
[02:36] <canthus13> It's worth double checking the temps, though.  Should write a script that throws the reading from that /proc/ file every second with a timestamp to see if there's any correlation.
[02:36] <canthus13> (Don't ask me how.. I'm an idea man, not a programmer. :)
[02:37] <Unit193> canthus13: /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/ is empty
[02:37] <canthus13> Weird. What sort of processor?
[02:37] <dmcglone> Unit193: is the computer shutting down?
[02:37] <Unit193> Na
[02:37] <Unit193> P4
[02:38] <canthus13> but it's kind of suspicious that it reports normal and then over temp at 5-second intervals.
[02:38] <canthus13> P4s don't overheat very easily, either. they're pretty resilient.
[02:38] <canthus13> err.. s/second/minute
[02:40] <dmcglone> if the computer is overheating it would be shutting itself down, is that the case here? Forgive me, I'm entering late in this discussion :-)
[02:41] <Unit193> dmcglone: You have been here for the entire thing, but it's still "on"
[02:42] <canthus13> Could be a GPU issue. got another video card you could try?
[02:42] <Unit193> About the X issue?
[02:43] <canthus13> Yep.
[02:43] <Unit193> Erm....
[02:43] <canthus13> I'm thinking the overtemp threshold is set too low and that's what is triggering the alarms.
[02:43] <canthus13> A P4 doesn't go critical 'til ~95-105C
[02:43] <dmcglone> Unit193: I missed the question, I scrolled up and don't see one
[02:44] <canthus13> He pasted logs at 21:34
[02:44] <Unit193> *Incomplete
[02:45] <dmcglone> thanks
[02:46] <Unit193> canthus13: I see a dash in the top left corner (and can't get to the TTYs) only fix, reboot
[02:46] <dmcglone> I've had this problem, but my computer would automatically shut down, I remedied it by cleaning out the dust in the tower and applying a new layer of thermal paste to my heatsink
[02:47] <Unit193> I'm not so sure the issues are all that related...
[02:50] <dmcglone> I was taught that you always look for the simplest problems first  and I used to always go for the worst problem and it finally came back to bite me in the ass a few months ago, from then on I've always started diagnosing with the simplest and obvious first
[02:52] <dmcglone> I bet canthus13 recognizes that one
[02:53] <Unit193> I need X more then the temp issue (if there is one?)
[02:56] <canthus13> Unit193: I'm not so sure there *IS* a temp issue.  install sensors and see how the temps look.
[02:58] <dmcglone> I'm trying to find the X issue from above
[02:58] <Unit193> Any ideas on X? (if it's an X issue)
[02:59] <Unit193> Xubuntu 10.10, LAN, all updates (except maybe the ones that need rebooting)
[03:02] <canthus13> yay netsplits.
[03:03] <dmcglone> wow what the hell happened?
[03:04] <Unit193> dmcglone: netsplit
[03:04] <dmcglone> everyone just suddenly left the room
[03:04] <dmcglone> Ohg
[03:04] <canthus13> dmcglone: you left.
[03:04] <dmcglone> I did?
[03:05] <dmcglone> I seemed to have stayed here with BiosElement and gilbert
[03:05] <dmcglone> everyone else went poof.. LOL
[03:05] <BiosElement> Hah
[03:05] <canthus13> dmcglone: We thought y'all were sneaking off for some nookie...
[03:06] <dmcglone> I was trying, dang you busted me
[03:06] <Unit193> BiosElement: Loved your new name
[03:06] <BiosElement> New name? lol
[03:06] <canthus13> :D
[03:06] <dmcglone> BiosElement is now known as 31NAAAEYW
[03:07] <BiosElement> Weird...
[03:08] <canthus13> I like it.
[03:08] <BiosElement> baka >.>
[03:10] <dmcglone> Well looks like BiosElement, Gilbert and I are on the super server ;-)
[03:10] <BiosElement> Awesome hah
[03:10] <BiosElement> Freenode is a tad sick
[03:10] <dmcglone> everyone else got stuck on the B side server that split
[03:10] <dmcglone> haha
[03:11] <BiosElement> When I start getting disconnected, I know it's sick since I run my IRC via a server daemon heh
[03:11] <BiosElement> Anyways, back shortly
[03:11] <dmcglone> you prefer boring black screens with white text huh? ;-)
[03:11] <BiosElement> lol, nope. Quassel :P
[03:11] <Unit193> I get red text... :D
[03:12] <Unit193> Can't seem to get the temp... acpi -t
[03:12] <dmcglone> Is it a hassle?
[03:12] <Unit193> I like it...
[03:13] <canthus13> Unit193: Did you install sensors?
[03:14] <dmcglone> I just checked it out, looks cool, I might try it
[03:14] <Unit193> dmcglone: checked out...?
[03:14] <Unit193> canthus13: Sometimes they have it built-in...
[03:15] <dmcglone> Unit193:  took a look at it
[03:15] <canthus13> quassel. an annoyingly complex client-server way to do what we do with irssi and screen.
[03:15] <canthus13> Unit193: I've had to install it on a few machines.
[03:15] <canthus13> Mostly older ones.
[03:16] <Unit193> I have 2 Optiplex GX260s, one is huge (the one with X issues) and another one that has sensios...
[03:22] <dmcglone> aren't the Optiplex's servers?
[03:22] <Unit193> Workstations
[03:23] <canthus13> anything's a server.
[03:24] <Unit193> Anything can be a server
[03:24] <dmcglone> true
[03:24]  * canthus13 installs Apache on his cat.
[03:26] <Unit193> lighttpd on both linux boxes
[03:26] <Unit193> For irc/### logs
[03:27] <canthus13> lighty is starting to annoy me. I'm prolly gonna switch back to apache. :P
[03:27] <dmcglone> apache rules
[03:28] <Unit193> irclog2html works better with apache, but I think lighttpd is lighter
[03:28]  * dmcglone has used apache for many years
[03:28] <Unit193> dmcglone: That's because the others didn't exist when you were looking ;)
[03:29] <dmcglone> LOL
[03:30] <dmcglone> I roamed with the dinosaurs ya know.. :-)
[03:30] <dmcglone> Now they are behemoth paper weights
[03:31] <Unit193> Going to  reboot the comp with X issues...
[03:31] <Unit193> up 1 day, 32 min
[03:32] <dmcglone> I still got my Odyssey video game console
[03:36]  * Unit193 just added an ollllld video card in...
[03:39] <dmcglone> guess what canthus13?
[03:39] <canthus13> dmcglone: chickenbutt?
[03:40] <dmcglone> it's my bed time.. LOL
[03:40] <dmcglone> yup, you know the drill.. LOL
[03:40] <Unit193> bed? sleep?
[03:40] <dmcglone> LOL
[03:40] <canthus13> Heh.
[03:41] <dmcglone> Someday Unit193 your gonna have kids, and them kids will bite and they bite hard
[03:41] <dmcglone> and they drag you out of bed at all hours of the night
[03:41] <dmcglone> dang.. LOL
[03:42] <dmcglone> Just my life.. ;-)
[03:43] <dmcglone> anyway, I'm out. gotta lay and get some rest, morning comes fast :-(
[03:43] <dmcglone> someday I'll figure out how to keep up with everyone here and stay up all night and day
[03:43] <dmcglone> g'night all
[03:45] <Unit193> Ohhhhh crap.... "mounting /dev on /root/dev failed" same with sys and proc
[03:46] <canthus13> Ew.
[03:47] <canthus13>  /dev shouldn't be mounted under /root...
[03:48] <Unit193> boot errors....
[03:48]  * Unit193 really didn't want to do a reinstall
[03:51] <Unit193> I think I'm really SOL on that...
[04:00] <canthus13> Unit193: you broke it.
[04:02] <Unit193> Yeah, I don't think I can fix that...
[04:04] <Unit193> If I really have to reinstall, I'll need to backup /home and /etc (so I can remember what I configured)
[06:21] <Unit193> Cheri703: Still alive?
[06:21] <Cheri703> yuppers
[06:41] <Unit193> We should both be there tomorrow....
[06:44] <Cheri703> k, cool
[06:44]  * Cheri703 will be there. and I found my sign for the table :)
[06:44] <Unit193> SkrappJaw?
[06:45] <Cheri703> I think he'll be there
[06:45] <Cheri703> not sure if he'll be bringing his friend again
[07:29] <Unit193> dropbear doesn't support normal options...
[15:01] <thafreak> Morning Ohio
[15:01] <thafreak> So do the only good conversations happen after 10pm?
[16:49] <Derath-Srvr> possibly... I'm in training at someone else's cube, so not really here
[19:29] <Cheri703> so.. Unit193, I really hate to do this, but I don't think I will be able to make it tonight. :(  A health thing came up. However, Skrappjaw is/was planning to go, so you guys are welcome to have ubuntu hour without me
[19:32] <Unit193> Cheri703: I take it that Alden(?) won't be going also? Hope you feel better
[19:33] <Cheri703> yeah, I don't think he is
[19:33] <Cheri703> :/
[19:33] <Cheri703> so do you still want to go? I can email skrappjaw and tell him to watch for you guys
[19:33] <Cheri703> or that it's canceled
[19:34] <Unit193> EricR2427 isn't home yet, so I don't know... (It would be nicer if it wasn't just me abnd him)
[19:36] <Cheri703> ok, let me know and I'll contact skrappjaw
[21:04] <Unit193> Cheri703: Confirm
[21:04] <Cheri703> confirm what?
[21:05] <Unit193> Sorry, we are going (train of thought doesn't work very well)
[21:05] <Cheri703> ah, ok. I will let skrappjaw know. one sec
[21:07] <Cheri703> ok, so...he has a thing tonight and the timing is too tight so he won't be out either :/
[21:07] <Cheri703> you guys are welcome to still go have an evening away from your parents, but...just wanted to let you know
[21:08] <Cheri703> you can carry the ubuntu flag still!
[21:08] <Cheri703> ;D
[21:08] <Unit193> Nobody else is going?
[21:08] <Unit193> (I think SkrappJaw, you and us are the only people that go)
[21:09] <Cheri703> yeah :/
[21:10] <Derath-Srvr> I haven't heard back from Spwelton over whether he's even running anymore, even through they are in the calendar...
[21:12] <Cheri703> Derath-Srvr: this is for mansfield :)
[21:13] <Unit193> Cheri703: ha! we are having U-H here ;)
[21:13] <Cheri703> :) that works!
[21:13] <Cheri703> viva la ubuntu hour!
[21:14] <Unit193> Maybe get my Xubuntu box (Sigma) back to working order...
[21:15] <Unit193> Have you done Ubuntu release upgrades? (The site says you can just do that, but everyone says to reinstall...)
[21:16] <Cheri703> I tend to reinstall
[21:16] <Cheri703> I've had issues in the past with upgrades
[21:32] <Derath-Srvr> I've done both, sometimes it works, sometimes I just wipe and reinstall...