[00:00] <roothorick> joepa: well, to recover anything, you need to boot the system... if there isn't a bootable OS on the hard drive, and you don't have an external media to boot from, you're SOL, *period*.
[00:00] <ZykoticK9> joe75, assuming Grub2 this might help (i haven't looked at it carefully) http://michael-prokop.at/blog/2009/05/25/boot-an-iso-via-grub2/
[00:00] <nerdshell> what's the difference between sudo su and sudo -i
[00:00] <nerdshell> what's the difference between sudo su and sudo -i ?
[00:00] <mello> is it possible to update to gnome 3 on ubuntu 10.10? and if so how do i do it?
[00:01] <ZykoticK9> nerdshell, don't use "sudo su" -- it sets environment variables differently (i don't know the specifics)
[00:01] <roothorick> joepa: unless you're thinking of removing the drive and imaging a partition with a second machine, in which case, cut out the middleman and use the second machine to recover data directly
[00:01] <ZykoticK9> mello, gnome-shell is broken in 10.10 (not possible due to some bug)
[00:01] <nerdshell> ZykoticK9: what do you mean sets environment variables differently ?
[00:01] <nerdshell> what's the difference between sudo su and sudo -i ?
[00:01] <joepa> roothorick: okay, good point, I'll do that
[00:01] <mello> ok ty ZykoticK9
[00:02] <ZykoticK9> nerdshell, it sets environment variables differently (that IS the difference)
[00:02] <ZykoticK9> nerdshell, don't use "sudo su"... end of story really.
[00:02] <nerdshell> ZykoticK9: yes, I mean, in fact, how could this be dangerous ?
[00:02] <capleton> I'm trying to auto-mount two ntfs software-raid drives, in Nautilus they appear but I have to mount them manually, but in /dev/ they all appear as seperate drives :/    could someone help out?  how can I auto-mount these ntfs arrays?
[00:02] <roothorick> I'm not an ubuntu guy, but sudo su seems kinda silly
[00:03] <ZykoticK9> nerdshell, not up for debate.  good luck.
[00:03] <mello> nerdshell: if u use man sudo in the terminal u can read what the -i command dose
[00:04] <roothorick> capleton: ntfs? software-raid? Wait, what?
[00:04] <roothorick> capleton: you can't be doing Linux MD RAID with NTFS, so... what RAID solution are you using?
[00:04] <capleton> :/
[00:05] <capleton> it was the one that came with ubuntu server edition... if that's what you're asking
[00:05] <roothorick> capleton: so you seriously... NTFS in Linux MD RAID? Why?
[00:05] <capleton> the drives were already formatted witha  bunch of data
[00:05] <capleton> I can mount and use them fine with Nautilus
[00:06] <roothorick> ...okay, I'm not following, maybe someone that knows ubuntu's idosyncracies will understand what's going on
[00:06] <capleton> hah, i hope.   I think it has to do with /dev/mapper
[00:06] <capleton> ...maybe
[00:07] <capleton> idk
[00:07] <capleton> i'll be back
[00:08] <[deXter]> Hi all, just installed lubuntu on this laptop but the problem is it doesn't automatically connect to the network upon a fresh boot, any ideas? Thanks.
[00:09] <dotjosh> Soooo... I'm sure I'm not the first person asking, but I can't find the info anywhere.  How do I upgrade to gnome 3 on my ubuntu 10.10 desktop?
[00:09] <halpbatman> join ubuntu-beginners
[00:10] <frank> hello, does anyone know where to find the desktop effects in natty narwal???
[00:10] <treeman> quit
[00:10] <GatunoRox> Hello
[00:10] <Aginor> !natty | frank
[00:11] <frank> I know but it works like a charm already (beta)
[00:11] <[deXter]> Does anyone know if GNOME3 can be installed on Maverick, and if so, how to go about it?
[00:11] <ZykoticK9> [deXter], it can't :(
[00:11] <Pici> frank: Please ask in #ubuntu+1, as ubottu said.
[00:11] <[deXter]> ZykoticK9: Thanks. :(
[00:12] <frank> ok
[00:12] <ZykoticK9> [deXter], regarding lubuntu networking issue - you might want to ask in the #lubuntu channel (i'm not sure what, if any, network manager it uses).  Good luck.
[00:13] <[deXter]> ZykoticK9: Thanks, but I figured it out.. 'connect automatically' wasn't checked for some reason.
[00:16] <capleton> Okay, I semi-figured out the situation, the raid is mapped under /dev/mapper/nvidia_adf1 etc.     But now I don't know whether to use regular mount or ntfs-3g
[00:16] <capleton> What would be the difference between using regular mount and ntfs-3g?
[00:16] <ayecee> capleton: what's the regular mount?
[00:17] <ayecee> capleton: you should usually use ntfs-3g
[00:17] <capleton> just using sudo mount, idk
[00:17] <capleton> kkk
[00:17] <ayecee> ntfs-3g is read/write, the kernel ntfs driver is read-only.
[00:18] <capleton> oh  i c
[00:18] <ayecee> ntfs in theory offers slightly higher performance, but in practice you'd rarely notice the difference.
[00:18] <ayecee> rather, the read-only in-kernel ntfs driver does.
[00:18] <capleton> okay.  Now i've gotta find a good fstab tut :/
[00:18] <ayecee> or maybe a manpage
[00:19] <capleton> good call :)
[00:19] <deshymers> if I'm logged in to my pc with my gui and leave it and go into single user mode, is there a way to go back? or do I jsut ahve to reboot?
[00:20] <ayecee> deshymers: how did you go to single user mode?
[00:20] <deshymers> control + alt + F1
[00:20] <ayecee> ah. that's not single user mode. that's just a virtual terminal.
[00:20] <deshymers> ahh ok
[00:20] <ayecee> hit alt-f7, usually.
[00:21] <ayecee> since X is usually on the 7th virtual terminal
[00:21] <deshymers> excellent, I was trying to do that before but wasnt able to find it, thanks
[00:22] <GatunoRox> hello
[00:22] <GatunoRox> can someone give me suppor with grub problems on USB HDD
[00:22] <GatunoRox> ?
[00:23] <ayecee> GatunoRox: only if you describe the problems.
[00:23] <GatunoRox> hello ayecee
[00:23] <GatunoRox> here's the deal
[00:24] <bluenemo_> can i chroot into ubuntu from a debian live stick?
[00:24] <GatunoRox> I've installed ubuntu on an USB HDD, full install 640GB ext4, without any internal hard drive sou grub wouldn't install anywhere other than the HDD, and oh well, works like a ccharm on the compute i used to install
[00:24] <ayecee> it's good to know that the deal is coming, that way i can prepare to receive the deal.
[00:25] <ayecee> bluenemo_: i don't see why not
[00:25] <bluenemo_> ayecee, cool thank you
[00:25] <GatunoRox> yet, when I use ito to try and boot on my laptop computer or on my other pc, all I get is either grub rescue or black screen with type cursor flashing
[00:26] <miles__> Does anyone know the dd command to clone a interntal hdd to a external
[00:27] <ayecee> GatunoRox: it could be your laptop bios doesn't handle booting from such large usb devices. Maybe there's a bios upgrade available for the laptop?
[00:27] <MrBushido> what tool would i use to create partitions with?
[00:27] <ayecee> miles__: dd if=internaldevicename of=externaldevicename
[00:27] <ayecee> MrBushido: fdisk
[00:27]  * MrBushido facepalms
[00:27] <GatunoRox> it didn't have any prroblem on my previous install, though
[00:27] <MrBushido> ayecee: thanks
[00:27] <armor-64> ;miles__nope i don't know if somethink like this exist in ubuntu!try norton ghost
[00:28] <miles__> ayecee: thanks
[00:28] <miles__> armor-64: norton ghost is for windows
[00:28] <ayecee> GatunoRox: perhaps the boot files were placed in a different location on this try, further into the disk. If there's an option to create a boot partition first on the disk, that'd probably fix it.
[00:28] <bluenemo_> MrBushido, use gparted, its veeery simple. sudo apt-get install gparted && gparted
[00:29] <ayecee> MrBushido: gparted probably does a better job of it though, if you're within a gui
[00:29] <armor-64> miles__:have you try it?
[00:29] <ayecee> armor-64: several program like that exist in ubuntu.
[00:29] <miles__> armor-64: why mess up with wine to get a program working, while ubuntu has the same commands built in
[00:30] <armor-64> ayecee: can you tell me one of them(a good one)
[00:30] <shcherbak> armor-64: dd
[00:30] <armor-64> miles__: i am no messing a wine into this!a bootable ghost exist(i am using one of this and it's good
[00:31] <ayecee> armor-64: ghost is also commercial software, so one would have to go out and buy it.
[00:31] <dotblank> using dd is not idea.. as it will copy pointless portions of the disk
[00:32] <dotblank> including the "free" space
[00:32] <armor-64> ayecee: have you try piratebay(i downloaded a pirated edition)
[00:32] <dotblank> I would use a tool like ntfsclone
[00:32] <fisix> reinstalled openoffice. it now has a seemingly ugly gui, like windows 98 style. wat happened..
[00:32] <ayecee> armor-64: it is not polite to pirate other peoples' work.
[00:32] <dotblank> !pirate
[00:32] <dotblank> !piracy
[00:32] <pooltable> help with play an mkv the audio and vedio do not match how to fix it ?
[00:32] <ayecee> dotblank: that's sensible for ntfs partitions, at least :)
[00:33] <ayecee> dotblank: there's probably similar tools for other filesystems
[00:33] <armor-64> ayecee: i know sorry but i don't have much money(if ubuntu have a program like tha then i will instal it)
[00:34] <dotblank> well its easier on linux you could just do a loopback mount then cp and use archive mode
[00:34] <pooltable> what program ?
[00:34] <dotblank> you may run into problems with special udev devices
[00:34] <ayecee> armor-64: why, how much does it cost?
[00:35] <fred_> hey guys
[00:35] <dotblank> There are lots of programs that are open source and like ghost
[00:35] <fred_> Need some help
[00:35] <dotblank> in fact better
[00:35] <ayecee> dotblank: myself, I find it easier to use dd and then gparted to resize, even if it's more time consuming. it's not like I'm sitting there waiting for it.
[00:35] <armor-64> ayecee: around 60euros or more(i live in greece so imagene with the crisis we have here how it will cost)
[00:36] <Guest84647> Heylo
[00:36] <pooltable> help with play an mkv the audio and vedio do not match how to fix it ?
[00:36] <ayecee> armor-64: money must be very tight for you, but I suspect you merely have other things you'd rather spend money on.
[00:37] <shcherbak> armor-64: abs is totaly free, in some way you could write own custom solution.
[00:37] <dotblank> ayecee, for what type of images? ntfs images?
[00:37] <ayecee> dotblank: plus, most of the time when I'm cloning, I'm doing it because the data is damaged, so recovering the (maybe) free space is useful.
[00:37] <dotblank> or ext2/3/4
[00:37] <ayecee> dotblank: any kind. also including bootloader.
[00:37] <dotblank> ayecee, Yea for use with computer forensics I would use dd
[00:37] <armor-64> ayecee: i help my family with the financial problems so no money for pc :(
[00:38] <ayecee> or data recovery, yeah
[00:38] <dotblank> but if I'm distributing a network image i wouldn't use that
[00:38] <ayecee> dotblank: true enough
[00:38] <armor-64> shcherbak: what do you mean?
[00:38] <dotblank> its a 1 time occurrence then dd is fine but after the 4th image using dd you look elsewhere
[00:38] <shcherbak> ubottu: tell armor-64 about abs
[00:39] <ayecee> heh. abs. what a horrible name for a linux program.
[00:39] <miles__> Ayecee: you said  dd if=internaldevicename of=externaldevicename for the command, but it doesn't seem to be working..
[00:39] <pooltable> how do i fix the audio sync mkv file?
[00:39] <shcherbak> ayecee: it is guide.
[00:39] <ayecee> miles__: you know that you have to replace internaldevicename with an actual device name, yes?
[00:39] <miles__> Ayecee: should i be naming their factory names or their set names.
[00:39] <ayecee> miles__: likewise with externaldevicename ?
[00:39] <dotblank> miles__, its not verbose
[00:39] <miles__> Ayecee, i should feel insulted you asked that.
[00:39] <coz_>  good day all
[00:39] <miles__> lol
[00:40] <armor-64> shcherbak: you mean this!sorry i imagine something else(i know about this)
[00:40] <ayecee> miles__: well, I wondered because you didn't show the command as you yourself had entered it.
[00:40] <miles__> ayecee: dd if=ATA TOSHIBA MK1234GSX of=WD My Passport 071A
[00:40] <ayecee> miles__: aiee. those aren't device names.
[00:40] <Gucci> msg hey
[00:40] <Gucci> I ned some help
[00:40] <dotblank> pooltable, vlc might be able to fix files and you could use a tool like avidemux
[00:40] <ayecee> miles__: device names would be similar to /dev/sda, or something.
[00:40] <maimster> Hi everyone.
[00:41] <miles__> Ayecee: Ah, i see alright.\
[00:41] <shcherbak> armor-64: bash provides all needed tools and elegant transport solution (ssh) for any form of data.
[00:41] <Gucci> Can I get some help
[00:41] <Gucci> dual booting
[00:41] <dotblank> !ask
[00:41] <pooltable> botbank: is avidemux with vlc or another program ?
[00:41] <ayecee> Gucci: that is an excellent question.
[00:41] <Gucci> okay
[00:42] <dotblank> pooltable, avidemux is a standalone program that you can install with the software center
[00:42] <pooltable> dotblank: will try
[00:42] <armor-64> shcherbak: yeah i know,i will try to do something that will help me in my job
[00:43] <Gucci> how do I reply
[00:43] <Gucci> to ayecee
[00:43] <dotblank> pooltable, I just checked.. with avidemux you can shift the audio track
[00:43] <pooltable> dotblank: gtk+ or qt version ???
[00:43] <dotblank> pooltable, gtk+
[00:43] <Gucci> anyone help me dualboot?
[00:43] <shcherbak> armor-64: Try to describe problem, we are keen to help.
[00:43] <dotblank> !tab | Gucci
[00:43] <ayecee> Gucci: you must describe your problem before anyone can help you.
[00:45] <pooltable> dotblank do i run vlc and avidemux at the same time ?
[00:45] <Starminn> How can I burn a non-Ubuntu iso to a USB drive?
[00:45] <dotblank> pooltable, no, you should be able to shift audio all in avidemux
[00:45] <shcherbak> Starminn: try unetbootin
[00:45] <andornaut> I'm considering upgrading from 10.04 to 10.10. I can't upgrade past gdm 2.2 b/c I require multi-seat support which was dropped with the next release. Can I upgrade ubuntu, but prevent GDM from being upgraded?
[00:45] <dotblank> pooltable, I suggested vlc because people often have that and it can repair streams
[00:46] <armor-64> shcherbak: some one asked about how to copy the hole HDD to an external HDD and i don't know about such a program that's why i ask if something like that exist(everything in Ubuntu of course)
[00:47] <ejay> hi, how do i partition my hard drive for ubuntu on windows xp?
[00:47] <ayecee> ejay: using gparted on the ubuntu livecd.
[00:47] <pooltable> dotblank i have vlc it was still off
[00:48] <dotblank> ejay, ubuntu should detect your windows instalation and allow you to install it along side it
[00:48] <ejay> ok, that's what i heard.  how do i use it?
[00:48] <dd214> Spoog  thnx, but IMAP does not appear to be supported on the Exchange server I'm trying to connect to... at least when I telnet domainXXX 143 I'm getting a connection refused err.
[00:48] <ayecee> ejay: i'm not sure how to answer that. what do you mean?
[00:48] <dotblank> pooltable, ok.. yea avidemux is your friend
[00:48] <ayecee> ejay: I mean, aside from the obvious steps of 1) boot livecd 2) run gparted from livec
[00:49] <dotblank> dd214, the network or system admin has to enable imap support on the exchange server
[00:49] <dotblank> most of the time it is enabled i find
[00:49] <Starminn> shcherbak: Thanks
[00:49] <ejay> i understand that but i mean use the program
[00:49] <ayecee> ejay: then you'd use the slider to resize the partition, and then apply the changes, and then gparted makes the changes. it's sometimes time consuming.
[00:49] <dotblank> ejay, I personally like the new disk manager and prefer it to gparted
[00:50] <pooltable> dd214 were you in the US service ?
[00:50] <ayecee> ejay: is that what you mean by use?
[00:50] <ejay> when i insert the disk and hit install now, i hit run alongside windows and it shows 1 partition and says if i continue it will erase my WHOLE other partition and replace it with ubuntu
[00:50] <ejay> yea
[00:50] <shcherbak> armor-64: To copy system (does someone expect copy to be bootable?), for raw data: i would use fdisk (or gpated) to copy partition, and gzip/find to copy directory tree and then gzip/find to fill it with files (and report), or just use dd (best if drive is failing)
[00:50] <dd214> dotblank Strange, I use the same config information that works with my Android, but can't get Evolution to work.
[00:51] <miles__> Ugggh, oh boy, its taking forever to reformat my ext
[00:51] <The_Pharoah> can someone hack me into 4chan i just got banned
[00:51] <pooltable> botblank why does it take so long to load a file is it fixing it?
[00:51] <armor-64> shcherbak: ok thanks man
[00:51] <dd214> pooltable USMC
[00:51] <pooltable> dd214 Navy here
[00:51] <ejay> when i insert the disk and hit install now, i hit run alongside windows and it shows 1 partition and says if i continue it will erase my WHOLE other partition and replace it with ubuntu
[00:52] <ayecee> ejay: okay, insert the disk and reboot. hopefully a boot menu comes up that lets you "try ubuntu without changing your system", or something to that effect.
[00:52] <pooltable> dd214 odd nick
[00:52] <ejay> i've done that before
[00:52] <ayecee> ejay: good! then you know how to get there :)
[00:52] <ejay> next step please
[00:53] <dotblank> !dualboot
[00:53] <pooltable> dotblank h.264 detected what do i do ?
[00:53] <ayecee> ejay: launch gparted from the menu when it comes up. I don't have the location memorized.
[00:53] <dd214> pooltable I've been using it as a handle dating back to my Quake days.
[00:53] <miles__> ayecee: alright so, after reformating my ext its dd if=/ of=/media/Distro right?
[00:53] <ejay> i know where it is
[00:53] <ayecee> ejay: i'd imagine it's under system menu.
[00:53] <ejay> next please
[00:54] <dotblank> pooltable, I think I should explain video format 101
[00:54] <dotblank> pooltable, h264 is a codec
[00:54] <ayecee> miles__: erm.. no, those are directories, not device names.
[00:54] <dotblank> pooltable, mkv is a container
[00:54] <ayecee> miles__: if you just want to copy the files and not the partitions, maybe cp is easier to use
[00:54] <dotblank> pooltable, the container allows you to have multiple audio/video streams
[00:54] <pooltable> dd214 my a form of my old freenet days eightball
[00:54] <miles__> Ayecee: sure whatever works, i'm just trying to copy my whole isntall onto my ext
[00:54] <ayecee> ejay: like I said, resize your partition using the slider
[00:54] <ejay> then how do i add a partition?
[00:54] <dotblank> pooltable, Example 1 video stream and 2 audio streams (english and spanish)
[00:55] <ayecee> ejay: you can safely leave that part for the install.
[00:55] <ejay> will it erase my data (thats what i heard)
[00:55] <shcherbak> miles__: Why do you need to copy whole system?
[00:55] <dotblank> pooltable, h264 is a common format used now adays for hd video
[00:55] <biborn> hello.who know if we can set our mac address to 00:00:00:00:00:00??
[00:55] <pooltable> dotblank still skips what to do ?
[00:55] <ayecee> ejay: will gparted erase your data? no.
[00:55] <miles__> so i can take my install with me places with out dragging the laptop around.
[00:56] <ayecee> miles__: oh. that's a bit different, eh?
[00:56] <dotblank> pooltable, the audio skips? can you be more specific.. does the audio skip get greator over time?
[00:56] <biborn> hello.who know if we can set our mac address to 00:00:00:00:00:00??
[00:56] <dotblank> pooltable, or is it constant
[00:56] <miles__> Well copying the whole install like i said is basically it.
[00:56] <ejay> thank you very much ayecee!  i really appreciate it.  if i need more help, i will come back
[00:56] <ayecee> biborn: you cannot.
[00:56] <shcherbak> miles__: Do you have separate /home ?
[00:56] <dd214> pooltable  No go on the IMAP, it's a corporate Exchange and have no control over it.  I've got Win7 running in VM Workstation and will use Outlook using "Unity" mode.. ugh..
[00:57] <miles__> Shcherbak: What do you mean separate
[00:57] <pooltable> dotblank i push play i am playing a wwe file and it say wecome to but it skips the word to
[00:57] <ayecee> miles__: see, the way that I was describing it would have made a clone of your drive, but it probably would not have been bootable, and would probably be bad to do while you're actually running on the same drive.
[00:57] <shcherbak> miles__: Separate partition for /home and/or any others?
[00:58] <dotblank> pooltable, I am even more confused...
[00:58] <miles__> shcherbak: No
[00:58] <miles__> ayecee: Well what should i do then.
[00:58] <dotblank> pooltable, are you talking about the audio or the actual video
[00:58] <pooltable> dotblank the audio
[00:58] <dd214> pooltable LHA-4 1996-97 / 26MEU / 6th Fleet
[00:59] <dotblank> pooltable, is the video in hd or is your computer slow/underload
[00:59] <ayecee> miles__: is the external disk larger than the internal disk?
[00:59] <miles__> ayecee: of course it is.
[01:00] <Starminn> For some reason, the GNOME3 I'm running isn't the right one.
[01:00] <ayecee> miles__: okay, it may work anyways then. boot from a livecd to do the copying
[01:00] <miles__> Ayecee: well what command do i use.
[01:00] <ayecee> miles__: it would probably be easier just to install ubuntu again on the external disk.
[01:00] <biborn> hello.who know if we can set our mac address to 00:00:00:00:00:00??
[01:00] <ayecee> biborn: can you see me?
[01:01] <pooltable> dd214 USS Constallation CV-64 1994-198 USS NImitz CVN 68 1999-2001 USS Portland LSD 37 2001-2003
[01:01] <MrBushido> which filesystem should a carefree noobie use? ext2/3/4?
[01:01] <pooltable> dotblank viedo HD
[01:01] <pooltable> video
[01:01] <biborn> ayecee: yes...see what??
[01:01] <ayecee> MrBushido: a carefree noobie should use the default.
[01:01] <dotblank> pooltable, have you tried playing the file in mplayer
[01:01] <Starminn> MRBushido: And the default is ext4
[01:01] <ayecee> biborn: did you see that I said no?
[01:01] <MrBushido> ayecee: i dont know what th edefault is :<
[01:01] <Starminn> MrBushido: Read my message
[01:02] <ayecee> MrBushido: the default is what is presented to you before you make a choice.
[01:02] <biborn> no i dont
[01:02] <shcherbak> biborn: Why do you want to do it, some devices support MAC clonning.
[01:02] <pooltable> dotblank avidemux
[01:02] <ayecee> biborn: okay, now you do.
[01:02] <dotblank> it could dbe the actual file is currupt or the container format you are using is unsupported by linux
[01:02] <MrBushido> Starminn: ah ty <3
[01:02] <dotblank> stuff like windows media seems glitchy at best
[01:02] <eamondo2> how can i connect to #aethermod @ irc.esper.net:5555
[01:02] <Starminn> MrBushido: :)
[01:03] <eamondo2> hello?
[01:03] <billybigpotatoes> hi
[01:03] <ayecee> miles__: I'm not very good at explaining this part, I guess.
[01:03] <biborn> ayecee: then how can i bypass mac filtering that only allow 00:00:00:00:00:00 to enter the router??
[01:03] <eamondo2> how can i join #aethermod @ irc.esper.net:5555
[01:03] <ayecee> biborn: I guess not.
[01:03] <biborn> ayecee: u mean there's no way??
[01:04] <ayecee> eamondo2: /server irc.esper.net 5555, then /join #aethermod
[01:04] <ayecee> biborn: correct
[01:04] <shcherbak> biborn: Spoofing, but this is not supported here
[01:04] <pooltable> dotblank with avidemux it look like i can save in another format should i do that then it way work ?
[01:04] <ayecee> shcherbak: i don't think you could even do that with that mac address.
[01:05] <dotblank> pooltable, yea go ahead and give it a try
[01:05] <dotblank> pooltable, if the video is long it could take some time
[01:05] <biborn> shcherbak : make it for educational purpose only, how can i get to it??
[01:05] <shcherbak> ayecee: He could ack, but configuring router seems more effective.
[01:05] <dotblank> biborn, you can spoof your mac address
[01:06] <ayecee> dotblank: not all nulls, though.
[01:06] <biborn> dotblank:do u mean by using macchanger??
[01:06] <ayecee> biborn: could you reconfigure your router?
[01:06] <dotblank> he could do some fancy packet forging
[01:06] <ayecee> even if it went past the filter, the stack would through it away.
[01:06] <dotblank> what kind of router uses all 0s for the mac
[01:06] <dotblank> in an acl
[01:06] <shcherbak> biborn: Wiki: MAC, Man in the middle; Google: <Your router type> configuration
[01:07] <dotblank> ayecee, you can make the stack ignore it
[01:07] <biborn> i cant even enter my router even the passwords are correct cause im filtered
[01:07] <dotblank> you can send anydata you want providing you have the user permision on the system and you change policy
[01:07] <ayecee> biborn: in that case, you may have to reset it to factory defaults.
[01:08] <ayecee> dotblank: no, I mean the stack on the router.
[01:08] <dotblank> ayecee, oh yea.. it would
[01:08] <deadduck> Hello guys :) i have one question before i do a new clean install, should i ask here or in pm? dont want to flood your channel
[01:08] <biborn> ayecee: FYI, im remote
[01:08] <shcherbak> biborn: null MAC most likely meany "ANY MAC"
[01:08] <Jon--> I am missing the battery indicator from my panel and it no longer is in the panel by default like I would like it to be. How do I fix this?
[01:08] <ayecee> deadduck: in channel, please. be concise.
[01:09] <ayecee> biborn: then you will have to be local to reset to factory defaults.
[01:09] <dotblank> Jon--, you could reset your panel
[01:09] <dotblank> !panel
[01:09] <shcherbak> Jon--: disconnect charger
[01:09] <dotblank> !panal
[01:09] <Starminn> !resetpanel
[01:09] <biborn> ayecee: that's almost imposible
[01:10] <ayecee> biborn: nevertheless, it will be required if you can't access the unit any other way.
[01:10] <Jon--> shcherbak, did nothing
[01:10] <Jon--> dotblank, how?
[01:10] <jeeves_> what causes a server to stop respoinding to pings from one subnet to another?
[01:11] <Starminn> !resetpanel | Jon--
[01:11] <deadduck> ok, here it is : I made a separate partition with gparted and copied my <username> (/home) folder in it with all the hidden files and it copied fine , now i want to do a clean install of 11.04 and point this as a home folder, will my transmission torrent list be ready after i install the new transmission? (using 10.04 and 1500 torrents in transmission)
[01:11] <ayecee> jeeves_: power outage
[01:11] <biborn> scsherbak: then u mean i have set thet router to block any mac wirelessly??
[01:11] <Guest70696> is there anyplace to report "bugs" at the ubuntu.com website?  (I noticed a couple of bad links, and some buttons that did nothing.)
[01:11] <dotblank> jeeves_, there can be many reasons.. it could be a router is filtering traffic or the server doesn't have a default gateway
[01:11] <dotblank> also the router could be dead.. or the server could be off etc
[01:12] <biborn> sscherbak: then u mean i have set thet router to block any mac wirelessly??
[01:12] <roothorick> seriously trying out ubuntu for the first time... running 11.04 beta. I'm really, REALLY impressed. A lot of thought was put into this installer.
[01:12] <ayecee> deadduck: maybe, providing the versions of transmission in 10.04 and 11.04 aren't too different.
[01:12] <dotblank> this is assuming you arnt using PAT
[01:12] <biborn> shcherbak: then u mean i have set thet router to block any mac wirelessly??
[01:12] <jeeves_> I have a cisco router connecting my 2 subsnets (internal).  I can ping other boxes from one subnet to another (192.168.1.0/24 --> 192.168.2.0/24, and back again), but I can't hit the server.  I KNOW the port is working (since it's serving up DNS, e-mail, etc to the external clients
[01:13] <ayecee> biborn: that's how you described it..
[01:13] <dotblank> jeeves_, this is off topic for ubuntu.. I would take it into #cisco
[01:13] <deadduck> ayecee: ok what can i do to be sure? i would really not have the time to do it manually... i am currently using Transmission 2.00b2 (10722)
[01:13] <jeeves_> dotblank, it's not a cisco issue.  I was just there.  and since I can ping other systems on each subnet, it's ONLY the server that refuses to play nice
[01:14] <Starminn> Will the GNOME3 install for Natty also work in Maverick?
[01:14] <ayecee> deadduck: I can't think of a way other than trying it.
[01:14] <dotblank> jeeves_, is there an acl or firewall?
[01:14] <dotblank> jeeves_, acl on the router
[01:14] <jeeves_> dotblank, no.
[01:14] <shcherbak> biborn: No, you do A) permit ALL and block SOME, or B) block ALL and permit SOME. Try to hook up with A at first.
[01:14] <dotblank> then it must be the server dropping icmp packets
[01:15] <Freeaqingme> What's the preferred way of installing gnome 3 on 10.10?
[01:15] <pooltable> starminn: i try it i did not like it was not sure how to mount my ext hd it is listed in places under ubuntu
[01:15] <dotblank> jeeves_, must be a firewall on the server
[01:15] <Starminn> pooltable: It's also under places in GNOME3
[01:15] <biborn> ayecee: would it be possible for me to clone my mac to the mac of wired client connected to the router even if im wirelessly connected??
[01:16] <Starminn> pooltable: Wait, what did you try it in? You're in Ubuntu either way.
[01:16] <jeeves_> dotblank, I can hit the server (and all of the services) from the same subnet that the server is on.
[01:16] <skpl> does anyone know if gnome 3 will be available for ubuntu 10.10?
[01:16] <toxibios> hello
[01:16] <ayecee> biborn: you said that you had blocked all mac addresses except the one, so no, that would not help.
[01:16] <dotblank> jeeves_, it could still be a firewall issue on the server tho
[01:16] <jeeves_> dotblank, how do I check?
[01:16] <pooltable> starminn i log out chage to gnome 3 back to ubuntu
[01:16] <Starminn> pooltable: You never leave Ubuntu.
[01:16] <dotblank> jeeves_, the server could say deny all icmp packets outside my netmask
[01:17] <biborn> shcherbak: i set it to allow, and set all list of mac to nulls
[01:17] <jeeves_> dotblank, where am I looking for that?
[01:17] <pooltable> dotblank isave it not is work in vlc thanks
[01:17] <dotblank> jeeves_, it depends on the server
[01:17] <pooltable> now
[01:17] <pooltable> i did early
[01:17] <deadduck> ayecee : okay, then i assume just copying /home folder is ok then? and is a common/used technique? because i didnt follow any guides on the net like http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome to move home folder, i just copied <username> folder in a new partition. its the first time i am trying to make a separate /home partition so i can do clean installs easier
[01:17] <dotblank> pooltable, :/
[01:17] <shcherbak> skpl: In some form yes (like source), and propably ppa.
[01:17] <jeeves_> dotblank, ugh, I think I found out why the 192.168.1.0/24 network is hitting the DNS server.  UGH!  ok, off to #cisco again
[01:17] <Starminn> Where can I find an up-to-date GNOME3? The one in the repos is outdated it would seem.
[01:17] <ayecee> deadduck: yup, that should do it
[01:17] <pooltable> starrminn i did not like it i did not even come here to say that
[01:18] <Jordan_U> deadduck: You don't need a separate /home partition to preserve /home during re-installs.
[01:18] <shcherbak> biborn: Is it Linksys?
[01:18] <deadduck> jordan_U : how else can i preserve it?
[01:18] <biborn> ayecee: OMG what have i done?then how can the local user connected to the router using wired connection connect to internet??
[01:19] <ayecee> biborn: isn't the mac filter just for the wireless side?
[01:19] <biborn> shcherbak: im not so sure ijm not at the scene now to check maybe linksys or dlink
[01:20] <Jordan_U> deadduck: Choose manual partitioning, set the mountpoint for your current '/' partition to '/' and be sure that the "format" option is *un*checked.
[01:20] <ayecee> deadduck: still, having a separate /home is easier.
[01:20] <biborn> ayecee: yes u r right...i almost forgot bout that
[01:20] <shcherbak> biborn: Block and all fields with null MAC
[01:21] <biborn> shcherbak:no. allow and all fields with nulls
[01:22] <The_Pharoah> how do i hack 4chan bc i just got banned
[01:22] <edbian> The_Pharoah, That is not Ubuntu support.
[01:22] <shcherbak> biborn: It will allow none. just make sure you will add your MAC in this case.
[01:22] <deadduck> 	
[01:22] <deadduck> Jordan_U, ayecee :ah yes of course but isnt a clean install after format better? .
[01:23] <biborn> shcherbak:i got ur idea but now im disconnected and cannot even connect to add my mac as allowed one
[01:23] <deadduck> i already made the partition so.. i am going to try it now thanks for the advice guys
[01:23] <Jordan_U> deadduck: Better how?
[01:23] <shcherbak> biborn: Do you have wire?
[01:24] <pooltable> jordan_u files are where there to be asscess faster
[01:24] <biborn> shcherbak:as i mentioned before, im remote...there's no way that i can connect to the router through wire
[01:24] <deadduck> Jordan_U: i dont know i just have randomy seen people in forums always recommend clean install , i assume alot of useless stuff being deleted
[01:24] <shcherbak> biborn: you mean out of lan?
[01:25] <administrator__> ogko4g
[01:25] <administrator__> jgitghj
[01:25] <biborn> shcherbak: of course
[01:25] <administrator__> niaho
[01:25] <Jordan_U> administrator__: Please stop.
[01:25] <administrator__> o
[01:25] <administrator__> ni shuode shi shenm ya
[01:25] <administrator__> shuohua
[01:26] <stevecam> how do i change the max volume that i can go up to when im using the gnome desktop environment, alsa lets the PCM volume go over 0dB and I do not want this to happen
[01:26] <shcherbak> biborn: MAC filtering is only for wlan. Run nmap on wan IP to see if router is visible.
[01:27] <biborn> shcherbak: how to do wan ip scanning ? any hint?
[01:27] <shcherbak> biborn: nmap <IP of router>
[01:28] <biborn> shcherbak: how could that be possible if im disconnected?? what ip do you mean?192.168.1.1??
[01:29] <shcherbak> biborn: I am confused. Are you trying to connect to that router via wifi?
[01:30] <Muimi> Hey smart guys: I went to /gcc-svn/configure --prefix=/usr/local/     and typed         gcc --enable-languages=c --disable-bootstrap
[01:30] <Muimi> output: gcc: no input files
[01:30] <Muimi> Did I say that twice?
[01:30] <Xylch> stevecam: You can go over 100% volume in Sound Preferences
[01:30] <Muimi> I'm reading an sh file that reads ../gcc-svn/configure --prefix=/usr/local/gcc --enable-languages=c --disable-bootstrap
[01:31] <Muimi> what am I doing wrong?
[01:31] <biborn> shcherbak: or course i am..and i am failed since i've misconfigured the mac filtering option..
[01:31] <Muimi> no input files
[01:31] <panfist> i'm using iostat to check out some stuff on my system, and it's listing two devices, dm-0 and dm-1, and i have no idea what these are. any help please?
[01:32] <shcherbak> biborn: then you are not remote, you are local. Do you have wired access to router, or do you know its internet IP (to access it outside of lan)? Or can you reset it to deffault.
[01:33] <panfist> nevermind
[01:33] <MrBushido> what port does samba run on by default?
[01:34] <MrBushido> cant find it in the config
[01:34] <MrBushido> or even better, is there any way for me to find out what ports processes are attaching themselves to?
[01:34] <maco> MrBushido: netstat -anp
[01:34] <MrBushido> ty maco <3
[01:34] <YankDownUnder> Samba = Port 445
[01:34] <shcherbak> MrBushido: sudo netstat -tulp
[01:35] <MrBushido> i'll go man netstat
[01:35] <biborn> shcherbak:i dont have wired access since it is my friends router.i dont know its internet ip.and of course i also cannot reach the router by my hand.i am not beside the router my friend.
[01:36] <ramy_d> anyone having trouble booting since the latest updates?
[01:37] <pooltable> ramy_d no
[01:37] <YankDownUnder> Booting? Rebooting? Um...218hrs since last reboot...um...
[01:37] <ramy_d> damn, i guess it's just me then
[01:37] <itaylor57> ramy_d: whats is your problem?
[01:38] <ramy_d> i'll go look at what the problem is exactly
[01:38] <ramy_d> laters
[01:39] <pooltable> ramy_d my computer is 5 years old it takes a few to start but is fine for the age
[01:39] <biborn> shcherbak:i dont have wired access since it is my friends router.i dont know its internet ip.and of course i also cannot reach the router by my hand.i am not beside the router my friend.
[01:39] <shcherbak> biborn: hm... Do not look good.
[01:39] <jmorris> I'm partitioning my disks for ubuntu server install - but I cannot make /boot "bootable flag: on"
[01:40] <jmorris> The screen juts flashes and i cannot set it to on, only stays at off
[01:40] <jeeves_> dotblank, are you still in #cisco?
[01:40] <biborn> shcherbak: do u mean i'm dead?? i just want to roll it back to norm,al..
[01:42] <biborn> shcherbak??
[01:42] <shcherbak> biborn: Do not recall to much, in real term you can try to scan whole net in search for The One (assuming that remote management is on), or...
[01:44] <shcherbak> biborn: or try to spoof, but this do not let you far (for sure not to web-configuration-interface)
[01:44] <ramy_d> right so, pretty sure i did an update yesterday
[01:44] <ramy_d> watched a movie, shutdown, not it won't mount the drive
[01:45] <ramy_d> error is mount failed for /dev/blabla the uuid of the disk here   on /root failed
[01:45] <ramy_d> then the same message for
[01:46] <ramy_d>  /dev on /root/dev
[01:46] <ramy_d>  /sys on /root/sys
[01:46] <ramy_d> and
[01:46] <ramy_d>  /proc on /root/proc
[01:46] <biborn> shcherbak : and 1 more thing. i have changed the admin username and password of the router.would it be possible for wired user to connect to the router to make some changes to the router??
[01:47] <ramy_d> finally, "target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init" then "no init found" and "try passing init= bootarg"
[01:47] <shcherbak> biborn: Did you use this router to access any logged sites (like gmail), that would give you wan IP. Wired, yes (with new credentials)
[01:47] <ramy_d> then it throws me in busybox shell
[01:48] <theshadow> what package does u1sdtool exist in?
[01:48] <ramy_d> this used to happen a long time go, but after a reboot from the shell, everything was fine. now it's stuck though, happens at every boot
[01:48] <biborn> shcherbak: i just log into facebook.would that count?and what do u mean by new credential?
[01:49] <shcherbak> biborn: password/username = credentials, facebook? Not sure that they show last log.
[01:49] <ramy_d> reading this on the forums now, seems related but i'm pretty sure i shutdown correctly http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1633183
[01:51] <biborn> shcherbak: how can they ahve those new password?? sory for the stup*d question.
[01:51] <brightspark> theshadow: where do you see mention of it?
[01:51] <David_HII> can somone tell me how to fix this error?   /etc/mail/sendmail.cf: line 109: fileclass: cannot open '/etc/mail/local-host-names': World writable directory
[01:52] <shcherbak> biborn: They?
[01:52] <biborn> shcherbak:i mean they are wired user.
[01:53] <shcherbak> biborn: I ment, if they know new password.
[01:54] <biborn> shcherbak:how if they do not know the password i set??i have never tell them before..
[01:54] <Starminn> What is the most "proper" way to resize a Windows partition, then give it to Ubuntu?
[01:54] <shcherbak> biborn: Then they cannot (unless they are smart enough to reset unit).
[01:55] <biborn> Starmin: using disk management in windows to shrink first and then create new partition.maybe that's the best way i think
[01:56] <biborn> shcherbak: what do u mean by resetting unit??
[01:56] <Starminn> biborn: I was thinking: 1.)Boot Windows, resize partition. 2.) Reboot Windows so it knows it's there and doesn't freak out. 3.)Hop on a LiveCD and move the unallocated to Ubuntu. 4.)Boot Ubuntu and I'm done if all went well.
[01:56] <navatwo> Starminn: windows partitioner is scurry
[01:57] <The_Pugilist> biborn: i belive the live cd comes with a tool called 'gparted' which is a pretty nifty partition manager
[01:57] <navatwo> use parted
[01:57] <The_Pugilist> ^^
[01:57] <navatwo> :)
[01:57] <biborn> Starmin: that's what i mean
[01:57] <navatwo> [g|k]parted are the GNOME and KDE equivalents
[01:57] <shcherbak> biborn: Reseting unit = pressing (for aprox 30 seconds) small (often obscured) button, with in effect restoring factory setting of router.
[01:58] <Starminn> biborn: Awesome. Thanks.
[01:59] <shcherbak> Starminn: Plan is good, just add point 0) Back up all important data.
[01:59] <biborn> The_Pugilist: i think the shrink option is more handy for new linux user which are scared using gparted.in case the progress is unsuccessful,no linux apps is there to be blamed since he done it using windows.
[02:00] <The_Pugilist> this is true
[02:00] <kiel> does ubuntu have a hashmap library for c++
[02:00] <smoak> can someone help me with bridging? when i create my bridge and issue a /etc/init.d/networking restart, all network traffic gets killed
[02:00] <biborn> shcherbak: iam afraid they are not that smart to reset..*igh*
[02:01] <The_Pharoah> poop
[02:02] <ramy_d> this might be my solution! http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1633183
[02:02] <shcherbak> biborn: and since no one will use they recently secured wifi, they internet speed will significantly inrease.
[02:02] <Starminn> shcherbak: Bleh. I don't believe in backups. ;)
[02:04] <shcherbak> Starminn: You do not have to belive it, just do it regulary.
[02:04] <biborn> shcherbak: but before i have checked the clients and all are using wireless.i am afraid that they are too brainless
[02:04] <Starminn> shcherbak: All important info I have on Ubuntu One.
[02:05] <biborn> Starmin: get an external man.
[02:05] <aguywhoeatspie> join #matrixdev
[02:05] <shcherbak> Starminn: In One we trust.
[02:05] <Starminn> biborn: I intend to as soon as I can. A nice, big one.
[02:05] <Starminn> shcherbak: Haha, very nice!
[02:05] <biborn> Starmin: i've never and will never believe cloud computing that hold our data.
[02:06] <Starminn> biborn: Nor do I. I don't like the idea of storing sensitive files through cloud computing. Ever. No matter what anybody tells me.
[02:06] <Starminn> biborn: But, in lieu of anything better, it's my only method, really.
[02:07] <biborn> Starmin: but just now u said u believe in Ubuntu One didn;t u????
[02:07] <rww> what.
[02:07] <Starminn> biborn: Nope.
[02:07] <maodun> I'm trying to see if my kernel has TAP driver support, so I'm doing "modinfo tap", but I'm getting: "/lib/modules/2.6.18-028stab070.10/modules.dep" - any idea why?
[02:07] <maodun> that modules.dep file exists, I've run depmod -a
[02:07] <Starminn> biborn: That was shcherbak. "In One we trust." I just said it was funny. I'm only using One because I don't have anything better.
[02:08] <maodun> It appears to have a size of 0 though
[02:08] <biborn> Starmin: oic sorry i didn't realize that.
[02:09] <Starminn> biborn: :) Not a problem.
[02:09] <biborn> shcherbak : which 1 u prefer? seagate or WD??
[02:09] <maodun> lsmod also returns an empty list
[02:10] <jubei> Hello. I am trying to find out what graphics card my laptop has . LSHW gives me this: http://pastebin.com/LAvVvhUT any ideas?
[02:11] <biborn> jubei: no sticker on the laptop??
[02:11] <maodun> modprobe.conf is also empty
[02:11] <jubei> biborn, no. And the manufacturer's site offers all sorts of different configurations so I've no idea what my lab selected when they purchased it
[02:11] <hdpb> mt-daapd/forked-daapd is not recognizing all of my music library. Any suggestions?
[02:11] <jubei> biborn, i know it's an intel , just wanna know exactly what
[02:11] <shcherbak> biborn: No preferencies, well still on IDE.
[02:13] <m_fulder> hello
[02:13] <biborn> jubei: what OS u use?
[02:13] <jubei> biborn, ubuntu 10.10
[02:13] <m_fulder> can I give a user full 777 chown to a folder ?
[02:13] <biborn> Shcherbak: what's wrong with sata??
[02:13] <MrBushido> does anybody know if there are still problems connect to a samba share with windows 7 home? I'm not sure if i've messed up my samba config or if its windows just being dumb
[02:14] <Cengkadak> why my nick is banned in #ubuntu ?
[02:14] <Irish`> MrBushido: I'm running Windows 7 and Ubuntu 10.10 with Samba shares working fine
[02:14] <rww> Cengkadak: Your current one obviously isn't. Which one do you mean?
[02:14] <MrBushido> Irish`: home or prof/superduperawesome edition?
[02:14] <superroot> Hello, I have a problem running the novashell(rtsoft.com) Game Maker Under Ubuntu I'm not sure if this is a ubuntu problem, or a novashell problem, but when i run it i get the results found at http://paste.ubuntu.com/590523/
[02:15] <Cengkadak> rww: my nick ApOgEE is registered. this one isn't
[02:15] <Irish`> MrBushido: two Ultimates and a Home
[02:15] <MrBushido> Irish`: ok thanks, then it's probably just my config! I'll go read more in to samba
[02:16] <superroot> Perhaps i should add to my question that i am running ubuntu 9.10
[02:16] <Irish`> MrBushido: Home Premium as it turns out, not sure if that'll matter, but good luck :x
[02:17] <shcherbak> biborn: I am few years delayed with hardware (best PC is P4 3.02), but have sata-usb adapter.
[02:17] <rww> Cengkadak: I don't see that nick on #ubuntu's banlist. Easiest way to sort it out would be if you switch to whatever's banned and /join #ubuntu-ops
[02:17] <Cengkadak> is there any reason why my nick ApOgEE is banned in #ubuntu ?
[02:18] <Cengkadak> ApOgEE [apogee@gateway/shell/bshellz.net/x-vqpxcvdacvygwfog]
[02:18] <rww> Cengkadak: bshellz.net is banned from #ubuntu due to abuse.
[02:18] <Ap0gEE> Strange
[02:19] <Cengkadak> 09:18 -!- Cannot join to channel #ubuntu (You are banned)
[02:19] <dd214> I've got 10.10 as my host and a VM Win7, both connecting using OpenVPN.  The Win7 works fine, but my LNX host is not getting the DNS from OpenVPN.  I can access all the sites but must know the IPs... any workaround other than this>  http://www.softwarepassion.com/solving-dns-problems-with-openvpn-on-ubuntu-box/
[02:19] <Ap0gEE> Cengkadak: Am I looking good.
[02:19] <nickals> BRASS MONKEY!
[02:21] <fr00g> I need help. I had Lucid and Compiz was working fine, but when I upgraded to Maverick, it doesn't work anymore. why?
[02:22] <navatwo> fr00g: reenable desktop effects
[02:23] <fr00g> It says that it can't
[02:23] <fr00g> "Visual effects could not be enabled" or something
[02:23] <shcherbak> fr00g: Do you have properiary driver? menu > Admin > Hardware Drivers
[02:24] <fr00g> It says "No proprietary drivers in use on this system."
[02:24] <shcherbak> fr00g: Do you have any listed to install?
[02:25] <fr00g> No
[02:26] <shcherbak> fr00g: Check your video card (type) and pass through google. It will tell you what open driver you can use to get most of your card. Some card dropping from support.
[02:27] <fr00g> How do I check my video card?
[02:27] <nickals> lspci
[02:31] <abiss27> guys whats the least i can put an / partition in ubuntu 10.10
[02:31] <lwizardl> hi
[02:32] <fr00g> Do I use the VGA compatible controller or the Display controller?
[02:32] <Starminn> VGA
[02:32] <diegovio1a> mark shuttleworth is an idiot, the best gnome released has been done today with gnome3 and he will write "unity", omfg...
[02:32] <Starminn> abiss27: This should help: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/installation-guide/i386/minimum-hardware-reqts.html
[02:33] <lwizardl> I was wondering if there is a way to make shortcut keys to do various things on my ubuntu system. like say ctrl+shift+f5 to turn on screensaver. etc
[02:33] <abiss27> ok thanks for the link
[02:33] <diegovio1a> nvm, sorry about that
[02:33] <Starminn> diegovio1a: I think he's going for the Mac ideology of further integration from the base.
[02:34] <Gucci> Can anyone help install xp over ubuntu partition
[02:35] <Starminn> Gucci: Ask in ##windows
[02:35] <Gucci> How do I change
[02:35] <Starminn> Gucci: but if you want to eliminate Ubuntu like it seems, just erase all partitions and install with nothing on your hard drive.
[02:35] <Gucci> no
[02:35] <Belial`> you gotta be official, gucci
[02:35] <Starminn> Gucci: /join ##windows
[02:35] <Belial`> every time you do something speak in the third person
[02:35] <Gucci> How do I reply to you guys
[02:35] <Gucci> Make my text red
[02:35] <shcherbak> Gucci: Installing two systems on same partition should be avoided.
[02:35] <Belial`> "gucci mane join ##windows"
[02:35] <Gucci> No
[02:36] <Gucci> different partitions
[02:36] <Gucci> How do I reply to you guys
[02:36] <Gucci> individual people?
[02:36] <Gucci> So my text is red like your text is to me
[02:36] <Starminn> Gucci: Oh. So not over ubuntu partition. But next to it?
[02:36] <Starminn> !enter | Gucci
[02:36] <Starminn> !who | Gucci
[02:36] <shcherbak> Gucci: try Gucci: make it red
[02:36] <Starminn> Gucci: ^^ Just stick their nickname in there
[02:36] <Gucci> !Starminn Yes
[02:37] <Starminn> Gucci: No ! is needed.
[02:37] <Gucci> Starminn ye
[02:37] <Gucci> ugg
[02:37] <Gucci> !
[02:37] <Gucci> dang
[02:37] <shcherbak> Gucci: And use tab, like star<TAB>
[02:38] <Gucci> Starminn: like this
[02:38] <Gucci> Starminn: got it lol
[02:38] <Starminn> Gucci: If you put my name anywhere in the message, it will highlight me and show a popup message on my Ubuntu system.
[02:38] <shcherbak> Gucci: Awesome!
[02:38] <Gucci> Starminn: whas missing the tab lol
[02:38] <Starminn> Gucci: Now then, you wanted to install XP next to Ubuntu?
[02:40] <Gucci> Starminn: So yeah I have two different partitions, I installed windows originally. Then immediatly after I installed Ubuntu and created two seperate partitions. But I'm pretty sure I messed up somewhere during partitioning so once I finished installing Ubuntu. It booted and no boot options were shown. It now simply loads into Ubuntu by default. I dont know what happened to windows, but It says my hd is still partitioned like I set it. I
[02:40] <Gucci> can describe my partitions for you if you want
[02:41] <brightspark> Gucci, do you know if Windows still lives on your old partition?  It might still be there even though Grub doesn't show it.
[02:41] <Starminn> Gucci: So basically, Windows isn't showing in your GRUB menu?
[02:42] <Gucci> brightspark: I think it does but Grub doesnt show it.
[02:43] <Gucci> Starminn: exactly
[02:43] <Starminn> Gucci: Have you tried manually adding XP to that list?
[02:43] <digitalfiz> is ubuntu one always so horribly slow?
[02:44] <Gucci> Starminn: No, which is exactly why I need people like you to help me lol
[02:44] <nickals> digitalfiz, live or installed?
[02:44] <brightspark> Gucci, try opening a terminal and running update-grub.  Off-chance it will solve your problem quickly.
[02:44] <digitalfiz> nick_h, i set a folder to sync and it has taken over an hour to sync a few mb's of files
[02:45] <brightspark> Gucci, sorry, it must be "sudo update-grub"
[02:45] <nickals> digitalfiz, idk honestly, i dont use ubuntu except on my headless server
[02:45] <Gucci> brightspark: ill give it a try and restart, then get back on IRC
[02:46] <Gucci> brightspark: brb
[02:46] <digitalfiz> nickals, i tried it over dropbox to see if it was better but it is like 500x slower so i suppose ill stick to dropbox
[02:46] <roothorick> What's the apt equivalent to equery belongs?
[02:46] <MrBushido> hmm, any pointers as to why i only get around 1.1MB/S on a 1Gb connection?
[02:46] <roothorick> or to put it differently, how do I find out which package a file belongs to?
[02:46] <MrBushido> erm
[02:46] <MrBushido> ***hmm, any pointers as to why i only get around 1.1MB/S on a 1Gb connection with samba?
[02:47] <roothorick> MrBushido: the other end may not have a gigabit connection?
[02:47] <roothorick> MrBushido: or maybe a poor quality cable prevented a gigabit link from being established?
[02:48] <Seven_Six_Two> aren't cat6 cables required for gigabit connections>
[02:48] <roothorick> officially, but I've gotten good results with short runs of pretty crappy cat5
[02:49] <Gucci> Starminn: back
[02:49] <roothorick> it'll work over eight separated 22-gauge wires if the run is short enough
[02:49] <Gucci> Back
[02:49] <PhillyKingston> cat5e is able to do gb
[02:49] <roothorick> though cat5 is so cheap, there's no excuse
[02:49] <Gucci> Who was I talking to
[02:49] <jan247> hi guys. i have 6 quad core E5620 servers, each with 32 gigs of RAM. I was hoping to assemble a UEC set-up for it. Should I assign one machine as the cloud controller/cluster controller/walrus and storage controller and the rest as node controllers? or should i find a lower specc'd machine and use it as the controller?
[02:49] <Gucci> Who helped me
[02:49] <Gucci> ?
[02:50] <Gucci> told me to update grub
[02:50] <Gucci> Didnt work
[02:50] <brightspark> Gucci, how did that work?
[02:50] <Dink> When something is nfs mounted. Does the bw taken from master or client ?
[02:50] <FloodBot3> Gucci: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:50] <helpkw> Hey can the update manager resume the updates from where it left off? I mean I'm halfway through updating atm but I need to log off really soon so it won't complete by then, or will I have to re-download everything again?
[02:50] <Gucci> brightspark: to no avail
[02:50] <Gucci> Starminn: you there?
[02:51] <Starminn> Yeah
[02:51] <brightspark> Gucci, sorry.  thought it might be a quick fix.  Last one was.
[02:51] <Gucci> Your manual xp addition sounded brilliant (the idea)
[02:51] <Gucci> brightspark: no Im pretty positibe i tried that before lol
[02:51] <Gucci> brightspark: not that much of a noob
[02:51] <Seven_Six_Two> helpkw, you'll be fine. you can stop it
[02:52] <Gucci> Starminn: do you know how to make it happen?
[02:52] <Seven_Six_Two> helpkw, only if you are still downloading, not installing
[02:52] <helpkw> sigh
[02:52] <helpkw> 238mb of 313mb...
[02:52] <helpkw> all over again then yeah?
[02:52] <brightspark> Gucci, for future reference you don't necessarily need to restart; Windows whsould show up in the terminal of the update command.
[02:52] <Gucci> brightspark: can you help fix it?
[02:52] <Seven_Six_Two> helpkw, downloaded? or installed? you can stop it if it'd still downloading packages.
[02:53] <helpkw> downloading
[02:53] <Gucci> brightspark: woops lol
[02:53] <helpkw> im stil downloading packages via update manager
 238mb of 313mb...
[02:53] <Starminn> Gucci: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-237172.html
[02:53] <Gucci> brightspark: im still a noob when it comes to that type of stuff
[02:53] <Gucci> Starminn: thank you
[02:53] <Seven_Six_Two> helpkw, then you're fine. it'll have to redownload whatever gets cut off, but you can stop it, and you'll be fine
[02:53] <Gucci> Starminn: Ill check it out
[02:53] <helpkw> Ah kk sweet, thanks
[02:54] <Starminn> Gucci: So you just go to the file that controls what shows up, and add what the folk at the bottom put (adjusted to your particular position)
[02:54] <Gucci> Starminn: Im on 10.4 brw
[02:54] <Gucci> Im on 10.4 btw
[02:54] <heder> BR?
[02:54] <Gucci> So Grub2
[02:54] <Starminn> Ah
[02:54] <Gucci> Do you guys want me to show you what my partition looks like?
[02:55] <Gucci> From Disk Utility or something
[02:55] <Seven_Six_Two> Gucci, only if it's purple and fuzzy.
[02:55] <fr00g> My video card is Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07), what driver do I install?
[02:55] <Starminn> Gucci: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Custom%20Menu%20Entries
[02:55] <Gucci> Starminn: would you like me to detail my partitions from the Disk Utility?
[02:55] <Starminn> Gucci: This is from Ubuntu folks, themselves, and should cover you I'd say.
[02:56] <Gucci> Starminn: ill try the first link to it. This isnt robby btw is it? Starcannon?
[02:56] <Gucci> Starminn:?
[02:57] <Gucci> Starminn: you see im not sure I partitioned right when I installed ubuntu
[02:57] <Starminn> Gucci: No Starcannon I know here.
[02:57] <Gucci> Starminn: oh
[02:57] <Starminn> Gucci: Why didn't you just use the default installer? Works fine with XP.
[02:57] <Starminn> Instead of "manual"
[02:58] <Gucci> Starminn: if I go to disk utility
[02:58] <Gucci> Starminn: what do you mean? I installed xp before ubuntu
[02:59] <Starminn> Gucci: "Install them side-by-side"
[02:59] <Starminn> Gucci: Anyway, too late now, what are your partitions?
[03:00] <Gucci> Starminn: yeah. I didnt know any better. A year or so ago, maybe two years, Starcannon helped me setup daul partition on my old computer
[03:00] <Gucci> Starminn: just b4 it died coincidentally lol, 6 years old. Motherboard gave up
[03:01] <jam_> What should I search to learn more about how the [mouse,keyboard, usb, ethernet...] sends data to the computer, and how linux goes about interpreting the data.?
[03:01] <Gucci> Starminn: so I didnt know any better this time. I should have come here for answers
[03:01] <Gucci> Starminn: Okay anyway in Disk Utility, Under Volumes it says, in the partition pictures
[03:01] <FloodBot3> !netsplit
[03:02] <Gucci> Starminn: 162 GB ext4 = dark grey
[03:02] <Gucci> Starminn: 156 GB NTFS = white space
[03:03] <Gucci> Starminn: and all the way in the right we have two little white boxes
[03:04] <fr00g> My video card is Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07), what driver do I install?
[03:04] <tyler_d> how do I upgrade to the latest beta ??
[03:04] <Guest20754> can sb tell me how to install ubuntu 10 on sata hdd?
[03:04] <pm2> Hello - I'm trying to use Skype, and my microphone is part of my USB webcam.  I can hear audio output, but the mic doesn't seem to work.  When I go into options the only option for the microphone is PulseAudio Server.  Any ideas on how to fix this?
[03:04] <Gucci> Starminn: Extended 1.5 GB. Under Usage it says : Container for Logical  Partitions
[03:04] <Guest47224> !natty | tyler_d
[03:05] <Gucci> Starminn: still there?
[03:05] <tyler_d> so I will try again.... how do I upgrade to the latest beta ??
[03:05] <Gucci> God I just closed the view menu up at the top. Anyone know how to bring it back?
[03:06] <abiss27> guys how to install new ubuntu and keep same /home partion without touching it...
[03:06] <Starminn> Gucci: Hit Alt or something
[03:06] <Gucci> Starminn: i did
[03:07] <Starminn> abiss27: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/natty/beta
[03:07] <Gucci> Starminn: it says your robert!
[03:07] <Gucci> Starminn: You must be starcannon
[03:07] <Gucci> Starminn: Its Tejas
[03:07] <Starminn> Gucci: Yes, I am Robert. But I'm not Starcannon.
[03:07] <Gucci> Starminn: oh dang
[03:07] <Gucci> Starminn: Lol
[03:07] <Starminn> Gucci: You are testing my patience.
[03:07] <abiss27> will have  a look , thanks dude
[03:07] <Gucci> Starminn: Sorry
[03:07] <Starminn> !enter | Gucci
[03:08] <Gucci> trying to get the menu bar back up
[03:08] <Starminn> !details | Gucci
[03:08] <Guest20754> can sb say why hdd is not visible during installation of ubuntu?
[03:09] <Gucci> Im simply trying to bring back the view menu, which i clicked and disabled by acc
[03:09] <Gucci> Wont come back
[03:09] <Starminn> Gucci: *sigh* I'm asking what program.
[03:09] <lwizardl> I was wondering if there is a way to make shortcut keys to do various things on my ubuntu system. like say ctrl+shift+f5 to turn on screensaver. etc
[03:09] <Gucci> Starminn: woops
[03:09] <Gucci> Starminn: Smuxi
[03:09] <Gucci> Starminn: i just got it
[03:10] <Gucci> Starminn: went to the Smuxi home tab and right clicked
[03:10] <Starminn> lwizardl: System->Preferences->keyboard shortcuts
[03:10] <Gucci> Starminn: into blank space
[03:10] <Gucci> Starminn: Okay so back to the problem. Did you read what my partitions said
[03:10] <Gucci> Starminn: I have four boxes under volumes in Disk Utility
[03:10] <lwizardl> Starminn, yeah but that just gives you option for name and keys
[03:11] <Starminn> lwizardl: And you want to set those keys to execute an option.
[03:11] <icarus_> Hello
[03:11] <Starminn> Gucci: Take a screenshot, and put it on imagebin.org
[03:11] <Gucci> Starminn: Yes sir. Brilliant idea
[03:11] <icarus_> How can I install gnome 3 ?
[03:12] <chris17> try synaptic.
[03:12] <lwizardl> Starminn, right but what would i link to for command "screensaver"
[03:12] <Starminn> Gucci: Just do Applications->Take Screenshot->Select area to grab then put it on there
[03:12] <Scotty> is this channel still for 10.10?
[03:12] <pm2> Hello - I'm trying to use Skype, and my microphone is part of my USB webcam.  I can hear audio output, but the mic doesn't seem to work.  When I go into options the only option for the microphone is PulseAudio Server.  Any ideas on how to fix this?
[03:12] <Scotty> where do i go for Natty support?
[03:12] <Logan_> !natty | Scotty
[03:12] <Starminn> Scotty: Yes, and it will be for a long time
[03:12] <Logan_> Starminn: well, 18 days
[03:12] <Starminn> Logan_: It will still be 10.10 support.
[03:13] <Logan_> *22 days
[03:13] <rww> Logan_: #ubuntu is for supported releases of Ubuntu. 10.10 is supported until April 2012 ;P
[03:13] <Logan_> rww: no, but I'm saying that 11.04 will be supported here as well
[03:13] <Starminn> Logan_: Oh, yeah, absolutely.
[03:13] <rww> that's not what Starminn didn't say :3
[03:13] <Scotty> okk, so it's not suipported here until release?
[03:13] <Logan_> rww: double negative much?
[03:13] <Logan_> :P
[03:13] <Starminn> Scotty: Right. Natty is only in #ubuntu+1 till the 28th I believe.
[03:13] <chris17> my Internet keeps disconnecting me after a few hours of use. Then I must restart my computer. Anyone know why?
[03:14] <Scotty> ubuntu+1 is always dead lol
[03:14] <nanoBotter> I have ubuntu 10.04 and an nVidia gt220.  the vga port works fine but plugging in a monitor to dvi only gives me 640x480 resolution.  I have the binary driver, and the nvidia manager doesn't help at all, that is the highest resolution it gives me! help!
[03:14] <Gucci> Starminn: http://imagebin.org/146958
[03:14] <icarus_> is there any way to update to 10.04 from 10.10 ?
[03:14] <Scotty> anyone try out Gnome3 today?
[03:15] <Gucci> Starminn: I can click on any of the volumes if you'd like me too
[03:15] <rww> !downgrade | icarus_
[03:15] <Gucci> *to
[03:15] <Muimi> what does it mean when you try to make depend && make install a program in Ubuntu and then make install, and then it looks like the program is NOT installed at all?
[03:15] <Muimi> what do i need to do additionally
[03:16] <Starminn> Gucci: So click on NTFS to see where it's at (i.e. /dev/sda1 or something) then using the instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Custom%20Menu%20Entries do your thing
[03:17] <chris17> Anyone help me with my wireless issue? I disconnect after a few hours and I have to reboot.
[03:17] <Gucci> Starminn: Yeah I clicked previously, it was sda2
[03:17] <Gucci> Starminn: Let me check it to make sure. Thankyou so much btw
[03:18] <sur> hello, what tools are available for automating packages to be installed on a new ubuntu installation? I would like to automate the packages to be installed and settings to be done on a server...
[03:18] <pm2> Is there a way to tell skype to not use pulseaudio?
[03:18] <Starminn> sur: What do you mean "automate"?
[03:18] <Gucci> Starminn: Yeah so its " /dev/sda2 "
[03:18] <Starminn> Gucci: Alright.
[03:19] <chris17> theres a way to automatically install updates on the desktop version. not sure about server edition
[03:19] <torchie> I have an nvidia nforce NIC and it changes its MAC address on every restart
[03:19] <torchie> setting the cloned mac address didn't seem to work
[03:19] <torchie> would it be absolutely necessary to resort to the shell script?
[03:19] <sur> Starminn, I';; install ubuntu on a new machine than tell this tool to set it up with necessary packages and settings
[03:20] <Starminn> sur: So why not just write a shell script that runs a bunch of "sudo apt-get <package>" with the "yes" flag?
[03:20] <acerimmer> pm2: still with us?
[03:21] <sur> Starminn, and settings...
[03:21] <Starminn> sur: Oh..... :)
[03:22] <aherron> acerimmer: i was PMing with pm2
[03:22] <AndroUser> H
[03:22] <acerimmer> aherron: ok.  problem solved I hope
[03:23] <aherron> but i dont think it helped... told him to reload the alsa-drivers... no word on if it worked and he ran
[03:23] <acerimmer> aherron: I tend to suspect he might have set his sound preferences wrong.  EZ to do with SKYPE
[03:24] <tjigi-fo> sur, see keryx and apt-offline near bottom of page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware
[03:25] <etzerd> hello all
[03:25] <etzerd> I just installed the beta version of 11.4
[03:25] <etzerd> I love it.
[03:25] <etzerd> is anyone know when the stable version will be release?
[03:27] <rww> !schedule-#ubuntu+1
[03:27] <rww> @natty
[03:27] <rww> !natty
[03:27] <torchie> how do I switch from the proprietary nvidia drivers to the open source ones?
[03:28] <lelantos> is the new one any good/
[03:28] <Big_bear>  who teachs free english?
[03:28] <vhd> when you ctrl+z something in the terminal, does it get killed? or is it suspended? also what is the [1]+ for  when you use ctrl+z?
[03:29] <Scotty> is there a way to start in safemode?
[03:29] <Aginor> in screen, is there a way to move windows between different screen processes?
[03:30] <Aginor> vhd, you stop the process and you're returned to the shell. you can type bg to run it as a background process or fg to return it as a foreground process
[03:30] <vhd> then how do you truly kill it?
[03:30] <torchie> does the system revert to the free drivers after you remove the proprietary ones?
[03:31] <vhd> ctrl+c is also suspend no?
[03:31] <oasisTopher> I have a binary driver for nVidia, what lines do I need in my xorg.conf to get the proper resolutions out of DVI connection?
[03:31] <Aginor> ctrl+c is a kill signal
[03:31] <oasisTopher> I can paste up my xorg.conf
[03:31] <vhd> hmm i see, I guess I got the two mixed up then.
[03:32] <Aginor> vhd, processes can chose to capture and ignore the kill, in which case you have to send them a SIGTERM (kill -9 <pid>)
[03:33] <Aginor> vhd, I can reccomend having a look at the jobs manpage
[03:34] <oasisTopher> nvidia-auto-select is used as the requested mode, I think I need to change that
[03:37] <Pirsch> Hi All. Anyone hear familiar with OpenVPN?
[03:37] <Pirsch> here
[03:38] <Pirsch> When I try to connect I get the following message: The VPN connection 'VPNReactor OpenVPN' failed because the connection attempt timed out.
[03:41] <Pirsch> Hello, I have an OpenVPN issue
[03:41] <tottto-drummond> hello gang
[03:41] <Pirsch> The VPN connection 'VPNReactor OpenVPN' failed because the connection attempt timed out.
[03:49] <Delerium_> Hi guys, is there a repository that already contains gnome 3 packages?
[03:50] <tumbleweed|iPod> Yes, it is a ppa but I do not have the exact URL
[03:50] <brightspark> delerium_ gnome 3 is in the software center already if i recall correctly
[03:51] <tumbleweed|iPod> Yes but they are not the latest version
[03:52] <Delerium_> Thanks Brightspark / tumbleweed.  So, the final release of today is not yet avaiable?
[03:52] <tumbleweed|iPod> It was released?
[03:52]  * tumbleweed|iPod checks his facts
[03:53] <Delerium_> yup: http://www.gnome.org/press/2011-04-gnome-3.0-released.html
[03:53] <Delerium_> ouchhh.. the pages has been removed (?!?!?!!)
[03:54] <Delerium_> here we go : http://www.gnome.org/press/2011/04/gnome-3-0-released-better-for-users-developers-3/
[03:55] <dany> holas
[03:56] <tumbleweed|iPod> Oh i was looking at gnome3.org
[03:57] <Delerium_> tumbleweed: It's a link coming from www.osnews.com
[03:58] <eoss> how can i cd into a restricted directory with sudo..it says command not found
[03:58] <tumbleweed|iPod> Sudo -s
[03:58] <tumbleweed|iPod> :)
[03:59] <eoss> thx it worked
[03:59] <tumbleweed|iPod> Erm...
[04:00] <M\aw> sudo cd lolcat ;p
[04:03] <necercis> hi, i have a kind of issue with my filesystem. i have got ext3 partition on /dev/sda5 and it is not mounted during boot on my ubundu server. i have chcecked my fstab for any errors but it looks clean. than i tried to mount it manually with specified mountpoint and it works just fine, but when i mount it without mountpoint it gets error "couldn't mount becouse of unsupported optional features". i am currently running fsck -c on that partit
[04:03] <kermit> whats a fast terminal emulator for X?
[04:03] <tumbleweed|iPod> kermit: Xterm
[04:04] <M\aw> lilyterm!
[04:05] <kermit> tumbleweed|iPod: thanks
[04:06] <dany> holas, un gusto desde el chat de ubuntu
[04:06] <tianshiz> is there anything wrong with the following cron in crontab: * * * * * /usr/bin/wget http://site.com/daily_cron.php?pass=sdf324d
[04:06] <tianshiz> for some reason i cant get it to run at all :/
[04:07] <tumbleweed|iPod> tianshiz: No input file specified
[04:08] <root_> testing
[04:08] <tumbleweed|iPod> Hai root_
[04:08] <root_> sorry i'm a bit of a newb
[04:08] <tianshiz> no input file specified? can you give me an example?
[04:08] <root_> to both ubuntu and freenode
[04:08] <tumbleweed|iPod> tianshiz: Go to the link
[04:08] <arand> necercis: How does your fstab look (pastebin)?
[04:08] <tumbleweed|iPod> root_: We all were at one point
[04:09] <root_> i ran this command and i'm trying to fix it
[04:09] <root_> :
[04:09] <root_> sudo chmod o-rwx -R /*
[04:09] <Jordan_U> !danger
[04:09] <tianshiz> oh well im just putting in a random link there...
[04:09] <root_> yeah.
[04:09] <tianshiz> thats not the actual site or the actual file
[04:09] <Jordan_U> root_: You'll pretty much need to re-install.
[04:09] <tumbleweed|iPod> Yea that pretty much covers it, ubottu
[04:09] <tianshiz> i changed the domain name of what i was using
[04:10] <Seven_Six_Two> awesome. There should be a channel dedicated to things you should never ever do.
[04:10] <Starminn> Seven_Six_Two: Make one
[04:10] <root_> what about chmod 777 or something extreme like that?
[04:10] <root_> no good?
[04:10] <tumbleweed|iPod> And invite me :)
[04:10] <babyjeez> I have a question about setting up SSH servers...is there a good channel I can go to for this?
[04:11] <tumbleweed|iPod> root_: Does chmod still work?
[04:11] <Seven_Six_Two> I just did. well, it's not registered..,.  #pandorasbox
[04:11] <rww> root_: nope, that's also bad.
[04:11] <root_> yeah. i can run pretty much any command using sudo
[04:11] <hermanlf> It's like back in the day when ppl got duped in to making their irc faster by hitting F4 or alt+ctrl+del twice really fast on win95.
[04:11] <necercis> arand: www.pastebin.com/mqBWZztX
[04:11] <rww> root_: you'd need to individually re-create permissions for various files. This is non-trivial.
[04:12] <tumbleweed|iPod> root_: But if you ran that command nothing is executable, right?
[04:12] <[4-tea-2]> Anybody got an idea why I can't reassign Capslock any more after upgrading to natty? (try: xmodmap -e "clear lock" to see for yourself)
[04:12] <root_> you're asking about the settings, or if i can actually run things?
[04:13] <tumbleweed|iPod> Can you execute files
[04:13] <tumbleweed|iPod> Yes/no
[04:13] <root_> yes
[04:13] <tumbleweed|iPod> Ok
[04:13] <root_> as root.
[04:14] <tumbleweed|iPod> Try chmod +x -R * I think
[04:14] <root_> is there an issue with making things like text files executable?
[04:14] <tumbleweed|iPod> But you need to make these files in $PATH +x
[04:15] <necercis> arand: whoops fail http://pastebin.com/z9PmreR0
[04:15] <root_> files in $PATH?
[04:15] <root_> ie the path that i used when running command-that-is-not-to-be-run?
[04:16] <tumbleweed|iPod> I do not completely understand what command you ran
[04:16] <tumbleweed|iPod> You set -x everything on your system, right?
[04:16] <root_> for the 'other' user
[04:17] <tumbleweed|iPod> Just for one user?
[04:17] <root_> so a file with permissions -rwxr-xr-x is now -rwxr-x---
[04:17] <tumbleweed|iPod> Or all users but root
[04:17] <dany> ubuntu, desde >Puyca, provincia la union, departamento de arequipa, Perú, el distrito más pobre de arequipa
[04:17] <YankDownUnder> Very bad form to be logged on as "root" or even to have "root" as a nick...
[04:17] <root_> yeah i figured. first time on freenode, don't even know how to change the nickname.
[04:18] <tumbleweed|iPod> root_: Oooh I see, man I'm stupid
[04:18] <arand> necercis: necercis Hmm, I fail to see any reason why it would do that...
[04:18] <YankDownUnder> Not really a matter of changing "nick" => being online as "root" is extremely dangerous...
[04:18] <root_> exit
[04:18] <root_> sorry wrong window
[04:19] <arand> necercis: Not sure if using the UUID would help, but I don't see why...
[04:19] <root_> but yeah that makes sense.
[04:19] <necercis> arand: yea I'm confused, I have nerver had such problem
[04:19] <[4-tea-2]> Ah. setxkbmap is the new xmodmap. \o/
[04:20] <arand> necercis: If you mount it with -o defaults does it give the same error?
[04:22] <necercis> arand: mount /dev/sda5 -o defaults /pub works fine, without /pub it does not
[04:22] <qilinwang> jyk
[04:23] <jiltdil> how to check how much space my VM had taken through host via terminal?
[04:23] <arand> necercis: Hmm, if you also use -t ext3 ?
[04:23] <necercis> arand: its the same as earlier
[04:24] <Guest29032> Can anyone assist me with this?   http://pastebin.com/MEnudw6g
[04:24] <necercis> arand: with /pub works, without not
[04:24] <[4-tea-2]> necercis: is http://pastebin.com/z9PmreR0 your current fstab?
[04:24] <Bite> What's the root password in linux, as opposed to the login?
[04:24] <blah234> hey all
[04:24] <necercis> [4-tea-2]: yes
[04:24] <blah234> this is the newb formerly known as _root
[04:24] <arand> Bite: There is none
[04:25] <YankDownUnder> Bite, There is only sudo => unless you create a password for the root account.
[04:25] <arand> Bite: You use sudo in ubuntu
[04:25] <[4-tea-2]> necercis: is there a newline char after the last line?
[04:25] <tumbleweed|iPod> Guest29032: The repository docent support edgy
[04:25] <Bite> arand: I'm getting the auth screen for running say, synaptics managers.
[04:25] <[4-tea-2]> necercis: i bet there isn't.
[04:25] <Bite> but i'm having issues.
[04:25] <tumbleweed|iPod> Doesn't*
[04:25] <YankDownUnder> Bite, Put in YOUR password.
[04:26] <blah234> tumbleweed|iPod: so you were saying I should just run chmod -R +x *
[04:26] <blah234> ?
[04:26] <abahkaiyisah> grub error show grub rescue> . if i use livecd always hang
[04:26] <Bite> I get an incorrect password error.
[04:26] <tumbleweed|iPod> No, sorry blah234
[04:26] <tumbleweed|iPod> blah234: At the time I didn't understand it
[04:26] <necercis> [4-tea-2]: no there is not, I have added it now but no difference
[04:26] <YankDownUnder> Bite, Well, what you can do is to open a terminal, and try: sudo passwd
[04:26] <Guest29032> tumbleweed: what does that mean?
[04:26] <blah234> tumbleweed|iPod: i see.
[04:27] <tumbleweed|iPod> But yea, you need to probably reinstall
[04:27] <tumbleweed|iPod> See if anyone else can help you
[04:27] <tumbleweed|iPod> :/
[04:27] <Bite> YankDownUnder: Does that change it?
[04:27] <Bite> Because that's not the issue.
[04:27] <YankDownUnder> Bite,  That allows you to create a password for the root account.
[04:27] <Bite> Oh, ic.
[04:28] <Guest29032> tumbleweed I ipod: what does that mean?
[04:28] <Bite> YankDownUnder: Thank you, I understand the issue now.
[04:29] <Bite> I installed ubuntu server, but then installed XFCE over it.
[04:29] <rww> !noroot | YankDownUnder
[04:29] <Bite> So the root account never had a password.
[04:29] <Bite> !root
[04:29] <[4-tea-2]> necercis: you could put "hexdump -C /etc/fstab" on pastebin if you want me to believe that. :D
[04:29] <Bite> rww:
[04:29] <Bite> I was having issues authenticating things.
[04:29] <tumbleweed|iPod> Guest29032: The file doesn't exist on the server
[04:30] <necercis> arand, [4-tea-2] I solved it, cfdisk showed me that fs is ext3 but it was ext4.
[04:30] <jiltdil> yesterday i made video using desktop recorder  and from there is an image of the video i am seeing in the middle of the screen and it os still there and not going from there how to fix this please help me
[04:30] <rww> Bite: then fix that, instead of using a dubious workaround
[04:30] <arand> necercis: There we go =)
[04:30] <Bite> rww: dubious workaround?
[04:30] <rww> Bite: in this case, start with investigating gksu-properties and whether it's set to use sudo-style behavior
[04:30] <rww> Bite: yes
[04:30] <mute> Hey, a bad video apparently put my ubuntu netbook into a freeze.  I'd rather not do a sysrq+b reboot as I have N
[04:31] <tumbleweed|iPod> What's N?
[04:31] <Bite> rww: Where's gksu-properties?
[04:31] <mute> Hey, a bad video apparently put my ubuntu netbook into a freeze.  I'd rather not do a sysrq+b reboot as I have an unsaved OO spreadsheet I was working on.  Nothing I can't replace.
[04:31] <rww> Bite: it's a program. Type alt-F2 and type it in there
[04:31] <mute> Anyone got an idea?
[04:31] <necercis> arand, [4-tea-2] thank you for help :)
[04:32] <Bite> rww: Auth mode: Su, Grab mod: Enable.
[04:32] <[4-tea-2]> mute: ssh on the netbook, send a HUP to OO and hope it's smart about saving the file?
[04:32] <rww> Bite: change auth mode to sudo.
[04:32] <mute> OH! I managed to get to a vterm.
[04:32] <Bite> rww: what does it do? Asking out of curiosity.
[04:32] <mute> [4-tea-2]: No sshd running.
[04:32] <Bite> rww: and should i remove the password i set on the root account? how?
[04:32] <rww> Bite: asks for your user password and authenticates using sudo, instead of asking for the (hopefully non-existent) root password and using su.
[04:32] <[4-tea-2]> mute: That's bad.
[04:32] <rww> Bite: see that RootSudo page ubottu linked
[04:33] <Bite> Okay, will, thanks. How do i remove the password for the root account?
[04:33] <Bite> !root
[04:33] <mute> [4-tea-2]: I wouldn't know how to do it even if I did.
[04:33] <rww> Bite: the RootSudo page has the command for it. I don't have it handy.
[04:33] <Guest29032> tumbleweed I ipod: so i shouldnt worry about it?
[04:33] <jiltdil> yesterday i made video using desktop recorder  and from then there is an image of the video i am seeing in the middle of the screen and it os still there and not going from there how to fix this .Also the word written on anything looks like fade please help me to fix this
[04:34] <Bite> rww: Thanks for the help. If i were to install xubuntu from the xubuntu iso and not the ubuntu server, would that be preset to sudo instead of su?
[04:34] <new_to_ubuntu1> I'm hoping someone can answer this one for. Is there a auto hide function to this Launcher in Unity?  Running 10.10
[04:34] <mute> You really don't need a superuser in this era of single user machines, but having the extra layer of requiring sudo permission is still beneficial.
[04:35] <rww> Bite: I'm not sure why it gets set wrong, or if there are other considerations it uses. It works out of the box on Xubuntu though, so I guess so.
[04:35] <Bite> rww: I would assume so as well.
[04:35] <arand> new_to_ubuntu1: There is in natty, I'm not sure if it is availble in the 10.10 version
[04:35] <Bite> rww: I just think that there was an issue in installing the window manager over it.
[04:36] <mute> ooh, pulseaudio's CPU usage is up to 97%
[04:36] <mute> There's the offender.
[04:36] <Bite> rww: Is there a GUI program that would let me configure grub?
[04:36] <Bite> I'm aware of startupmanager.
[04:36] <mute> How should I kill it? 9?
[04:36] <rww> Bite: I just use the text configuration files, so...
[04:37] <rww> !grub2 | might mention one
[04:37] <arand> mute: just pulseaudio -k
[04:37] <arand> mute: Normally doe sit
[04:37] <mute> arand: I'm in htop.
[04:38] <mute> gives me the option of killing with a certain signal.
[04:38] <new_to_ubuntu1> arand: thanks.  I have not put Natty on any of my boxes yet? Are you running it? What do you think of it?
[04:38] <Bite> rww: i just need a quick fix. I don't necessarily want to go back to grub.
[04:38] <nafri> hello, has anyone sucessfully installed gnome3 on ubuntu 10.10??
[04:39] <arand> new_to_ubuntu1: #ubuntu+1 For further discussion, I'm only running it in in a VM, hence no unity/effects.
[04:39] <[4-tea-2]> mute: 9 (KILL) is for when you want a program to be gone, immediately, no questions asked (so, yes)
[04:39] <new_to_ubuntu1> arand: okay, thank you for the info.
[04:39] <jiltdil> help me please whenever i opens any thing that has black screen it shows my video image that i had made sometime ago over it.how too fix this also the words written above the open thing goes faid
[04:39] <[4-tea-2]> mute: HUP is for when you want to give a program a chance to shut itself down properly, just fyi.
[04:40] <arand> mute: The proper way to restart pulseaudio is with the pulseaudio -k command rather
[04:40] <[4-tea-2]> mute: and TERM is HUP for programs that do different things when you send them a HUP (like reload their configuration or other obscure stuff)
[04:40] <Bite> rww: i can't find something specific for removing the root password
[04:41] <mute> [4-tea-2]: Does TERM work on the others?
[04:41] <[4-tea-2]> mute: yes
[04:41] <rww> Bite: sudo usermod -p '!' root
[04:41] <mute> The ones I always hear about are 9 10 and 15
[04:42] <Bite> rww: thanks for everything. I'm off, bye!
[04:42] <jmorris> I just installed ubuntu server 10.10, and i am getting random network drops, if I am SSH'ed into the box ill get booted, cannot connect to in via SMB or http, then all the sudden it will come back, Any guesses where I should look?
[04:42] <Bite> pff, skimmed right over that part....
[04:43] <[4-tea-2]> mute: historically, 1 (HUP) is "hangup", which causes some programs to treat this signal as "the user might have accidently closed his connection or X server or whatever".
[04:44] <[4-tea-2]> mute: that's why I try it first when I want to give an application a chance to save my date.
[04:45] <jiltdil> for using 64bit OS in virtual box will i have to enable VT or VT-d or simply both from BIOS menu?
[04:45] <munz> where do trayed apps go in unity...like xchat?
[04:45] <faryshta> Hello. Is anyone else having troubles adding people to msn/pidging?
[04:46] <[4-tea-2]> faryshta: I had, until I got a fresher Pidgin from the PPA.
[04:46] <nickals> faryshta, yea i was trying to add your mom last night, but it just wouldnt work
[04:46] <nickals> :p
[04:46] <[4-tea-2]> faryshta: usually some error message complaining about an invalid mail address format, iirc.
[04:47] <faryshta> [4-tea-2], well I know the emails are corrects.
[04:47] <jiltdil> for using 64bit OS in virtual box will i have to enable VT or VT-d or simply both from BIOS menu?
[04:47] <faryshta> [4-tea-2], can you recomend me other program to access msn?
[04:47] <[4-tea-2]> faryshta: I don't doubt that. Get the fixed Pidgin.
[04:47] <Seven_Six_Two> faryshta, I use empathy
[04:48] <faryshta> [4-tea-2], I just updated my system :( Seven_Six_Two let me try.
[04:48] <[4-tea-2]> faryshta: the bug is fixed in the pidgin-developers PPA.
[04:49] <[4-tea-2]> faryshta: https://launchpad.net/~pidgin-developers/+archive/ppa
[04:49] <faryshta> [4-tea-2], let me try too.
[04:50] <hiexpo> pidgin works great for msn
[04:50] <c00lryguy> does anyone know how would I play a midi note from my soundcard?
[04:50] <Muimi> pidgin don't work for facebook
[04:50] <Muimi> friends don't get your messages
[04:50] <din> hiexpo: irssi + bitlbee works great for everything imo
[04:50] <Muimi> it's annoying.
[04:51] <hiexpo> Muimi, well than i am special cause mine does
[04:51] <Muimi> get it together, guys.
[04:51] <Muimi> better check to be sure.  i checked against 3 remote computers and checked 2 local computers.
[04:51] <Muimi> but hey.. if you know you know, i mean
[04:51] <shane4ubuntu> c00lryguy: timidity
[04:51] <shane4ubuntu> !timidity | c00lryguy
[04:52] <c00lryguy> ill  check that out thanks
[04:52] <sysRPL> has anyone here mentioned gnome 3 today? i'm wondering if/how it can be installed on 10.10?
[04:52] <hiexpo> you have to use xmpp for facebook
[04:52] <shane4ubuntu> c00lryguy: It isn't a gui, so in the command line, timidity file.mid
[04:53] <shane4ubuntu> c00lryguy: also, you should install freepats or something for the intstruments to make it sound nice, there is a gui midi player, but I don't know what it is off hand.
[04:53] <nownot> when ever i try to run ffmpeg i get "ffmpeg: error while loading shared libraries: libvorbisenc.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory " what do i do?
[04:53] <Muimi> not that i have seen sysRPL.
[04:53] <nownot> i have libvorbis installed
[04:54] <YankDownUnder> Great MIDI => Rosegarden
[04:54] <Muimi> someone said
[04:54] <shane4ubuntu> sysRPL: I saw today there is a ppa setup for the 11.04 version, I think I saw something for 10.10 too, but it was ir-reversible if you install it, so back up first.
[04:54] <Muimi> 07:49:42 PM) Delerium_: Hi guys, is there a repository that already contains gnome 3 packages?
[04:54] <Muimi> (07:50:48 PM) brightspark: delerium_ gnome 3 is in the software center already if i recall correctly
[04:54] <c00lryguy> Oh I'm sorry. I'm not trying to play a midi file. I have a program thats using midi input/output from a keyboard i have and i want to use my sundcard to play midi notes when i hit the mon the keyboard
[04:54] <Muimi> i got earlier logs if you want me to check?
[04:54] <sysRPL> shane4ubuntu: i'm running ubuntu on a htpc
[04:54] <sysRPL> shane4ubuntu: there's nothng too crtical on it
[04:54] <sysRPL> giaga n20
[04:55] <sagarchalise> Hey people I am new to this bug reporting thing, the two finger functionality of my touchpad doesnot work in ubuntu11.04 although the touchpad section shows it to be enabled . Shall I report this as bug ??
[04:55] <YankDownUnder> c00lryguy, I'm using JACK and all the JACK input/output coupled with Rosegarden => works wonderfully.
[04:55] <shane4ubuntu> sysRPL: you are at your own risk here:  http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/11/install-vanilla-gnome-3-in-maverick/
[04:55] <c00lryguy> YankDownUnder: sounds good. i'm ot entirely sure what JACK is but I'll look into it
[04:56] <shane4ubuntu> c00lryguy: ohh, that is totally different, scratch the timidity suggestion I gave you then. :)
[04:56] <c00lryguy> Thanks for the input though!
[04:56] <Seven_Six_Two> c00lryguy, jack is "jack audio connection kit" and you'll want the realtime kernel too. probably the easiest is to install the ubuntu-studio metapackages
[04:56] <YankDownUnder> c00lryguy, On a silly Toshiba P4 laptop, I've replaced the Pulseaudio with JACK, installed Rosegarden, setup JACK for my keyboard via USB, and hey, it's great. For recording - or whatever.
[04:57] <c00lryguy> cool thanks guys
[04:57] <bouma> can someone tell me of a console pdf tool that will aes encrypt an exisiting pdf, that isnt pdftk, which needs tones of dependancies, something small?
[04:57] <jmorris> Anyone know why I would be getting random drops of SMB, SSH, and HTTP connections so ubuntu 10.10?
[04:58] <sysRPL> shane4ubuntu: that post was from november last year ... i was hoping for something more current
[04:58] <sysRPL> shane4ubuntu: but ty anyways
[04:58] <c00lryguy> bouma: On ruby, there is a library called Prawn that can do wonders
[04:58] <jiltdil> Deleting my boot partiton and instaling new ,will it also delete my virtual box from system?
[04:58] <c00lryguy> I believe it is a C extension as well so it's all in C
[04:59] <shane4ubuntu> sysRPL: ohh, I didn't look at it too closely, just noticed that it could be done, however if the repo is still up, and up to date, then all should be good.
[04:59] <c00lryguy> scratch that, its all ruby
[04:59] <sysRPL> shane4ubuntu: no problems. thanks
[05:00] <sysRPL> does anyone here use mon and c# on ubuntu? i'm considering doing some stuff with opentk on ubuntu, but don't know if it has a lot off issues i don't want to deal with
[05:00] <sysRPL> mon = mono
[05:01] <edbian> sysRPL: Have done very minimal work with mono on linux.  (I've compiled some simple programs and run them).  For what it's worth, it was error free.
[05:01] <sysRPL> i've never really done foss ... just my own stuff mainly for windows
[05:01] <daweefolk> I set up two partitions when i installed- one for / and one for /home. I made the one for /home almost 100G bigger, but when I installed I accidentally set them backward. I am already 25% in /home and i installed saturday. is there a way to fix it? i.e. just swap the contents and edit lilo?
[05:01] <sysRPL> edbian: do you do any other foss development?
[05:01] <shane4ubuntu> sysRPL: that ppa was out-dated and pointed to this ppa, that is only for Natty, :(
[05:02] <shane4ubuntu> sysRPL: https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3/+packages   the ppa.
[05:02] <edbian> sysRPL: Not professionally.  But I code in python all the time! :D
[05:02] <sysRPL> shane4ubuntu: "This PPA currently publishes packages for Natty."
[05:03] <sysRPL> edbian: what editor do you use?
[05:03] <pwnyourace> can someone please help me? i installed ubuntu with wubi and rebooted and it set it up and then i got a flash of code and my computer turned off, now when i pick to boot to ubuntu i get a command prompt type thing and idk how to boot to the os
[05:03] <edbian> sysRPL: :)  I'm actually writing my own right now!  :)  I use that, or gedit and a terminal.
[05:03] <shane4ubuntu> sysRPL: right, that is what I was saying, :(
[05:03] <sysRPL> edbian: i need tools like visual studio, eclipse, monodevelop, etc
[05:04] <edbian> sysRPL: Visual studios is windows only.  eclipse is available on linux.  Not sure about monodevelop.  I generally code old school with a text editor and a terminal
[05:04] <Scotty> ohh gnome 3, you ruin my life lol
[05:04] <Scotty> i have 4 files on my linux drive i need to get off, whats the best way?
[05:05] <YankDownUnder> Scotty, copy to USB
[05:05] <edbian> Scotty: use linux to copy them?
[05:05] <Scotty> i try mounting it as external, no go. on that one
[05:05] <Scotty> cant boot up, gota re-format
[05:05] <sysRPL> edbian: doesn't that make it hard to refactor/goto compile errors/debug inside the editor/use an immediate evaluate and modify window?
[05:05] <Scotty> killed machine with Gnome 3
[05:06] <edbian> sysRPL: yes.  I make up for it by coding well.
[05:06] <jiltdil> please help me how to recover from this locking the screen shows me the part of  current opened applications in a fade from why it is happening and how to solve this?
[05:06] <tehroflmaoer> can someone help me with this unusually long boot time I'm having?
[05:06] <linuxtech> I want to upgrade a server to natty, prior to our migrating mail and web services to it.  Recently we had an issue where our Xen VPS wouldn't reboot after upgrading to Maverick.  See bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/727814.  What is the url to find known issues with Natty, and does anyone know of red flags why I shouldn't upgrade now.
[05:07] <edbian> sysRPL: Admittedly I have never worked on a large project (more than 10,000 lines)
[05:07] <Seven_Six_Two> jiltdil, I believe that there's a screensaver that does something like that.
[05:08] <jiltdil> Seven_Six_Two; no i changed screen saver too but still there is a problem also typing to google serach bar the word typed by me is fade
[05:09] <aauthor> linuxtech, is this the URL you're looking for? <linuxtec
[05:09] <aauthor> oops, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+bugs
[05:09] <jiltdil> Any solution to my problem
[05:10] <sysRPL> by the way peoples ... i am super impress with nettops and ubuntu ... computers like the giada n20 i got last week http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2372300,00.asp
[05:11] <linuxtech> aauthor: Perhaps it is.  In previous releases they had some pages setup on  showing a bit of what they wanted tested.
[05:11] <sysRPL> i'm not a very knowledgeable linux/ubunut guy ... and i managed to get the hdi with sound working, as well as vdpau for real smooth 1080p video playback
[05:11] <sysRPL> hdmi rather
[05:12] <aauthor> linuxtech, you might also check out this page: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/natty/beta#Known%20issues
[05:13] <linuxtech> thanks, that is what I was looking for!
[05:13] <aauthor> No problem.
[05:13] <[4-tea-2]> Anyone else experiencing Liferea crashes (segfaults) on natty?
[05:13] <moes> Ubuntu 10.04 grub 1.98 ...How do I display grub menu at startup
[05:14] <aauthor> moes, the file you need to edit is "/etc/default/grub"
[05:14] <YankDownUnder> moes, Edit the /etc/default/grub configuration file, then run "sudo update-grub"
[05:15] <moes> aauthor yes but what entry in the default file
[05:15] <Stronze> need help. installed ubuntu 10.04 on very old desktop. itunes and a graphical game crashes computer. no clue where to start. im thinking bad graphics driver
[05:15] <sysRPL> moes ... hold shift
[05:15]  * aauthor checks documentation
[05:15] <tensorpudding> Stronze: ubuntu doesn't have itunes
[05:16] <YankDownUnder> GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT
[05:16] <Stronze> tensorpudding - itunes via wine
[05:16] <moes> sysRPL, That works but want to see it at boot
[05:17] <YankDownUnder> Stronze, Success stories of running iTunes via WINE - or at least any version greater than iTunes 7.0, are nearly nil.
[05:17] <vyper1877> I think I tried that once without any luck
[05:17] <Seven_Six_Two> Stronze, and what do you mean by crash? Kernel panic? Black screen?
[05:17] <Stronze> yankdownunder - i know, i was testing to see if it would work but thats not the issues, graphics get overloaded and crash computer
[05:17] <aauthor> moes, comment out GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0 (i.e. put a # in front of that line)
[05:17] <jiltdil> moes:hit esc or down arrow  key,to see grub menu
[05:17] <Stronze> seven_six_two black screen with graphic glitches
[05:18] <Seven_Six_Two> Stronze, can you ssh in from another computer?
[05:18] <YankDownUnder> Stronze, Yeppers - been there done that heaps of times...on many different types of machines...just for giggles and grins - I love an exercise in futility.
[05:18] <Seven_Six_Two> Stronze, or can you switch to a tty?
[05:18] <aauthor> moes, documentation is at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#/etc/default/grub (file)
[05:19] <Stronze> yankdownunder - this a my cousins family computer and their windows did its windows thing. figured why not
[05:19] <aauthor> moes:  erm, we'll try that again: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#/etc/default/grub%20(file)
[05:19] <vyper1877> Stronze, try a virtualbox xp machine for that
[05:19] <Stronze> seven_six_two im not an advanced linux user. slow down bud
[05:19] <YankDownUnder> Stronze, Yeah mate - kinda know what ya mean...
[05:19] <Stronze> vyper1877 - i was thinking that but im not sure this pc can handle that
[05:20] <jiltdil> Anything typing on google using firefox is looking fade also locking screen shows some fade pictures of the running program how to resolve this
[05:20] <vyper1877> Dual boot?
[05:20] <Seven_Six_Two> Stronze, can you get a login screen with alt+ctrl+F1
[05:20] <aauthor> moes, don't forget to update grub afterwards by running "sudo update-grub2" in terminal.
[05:21] <YankDownUnder> Stronze, Just as an FYI, my missus uses a iPod Nano 8gb, and uses Rhythmbox quite happily...however, it's not a "brand new" item, and she's well aware of how to download music instead of "Apple Store" purchasing...
[05:21] <sysRPL> moes: did you read my comment about holding shft at boot to get to grub?
[05:21] <sysRPL> moes: shift
[05:23] <vyper1877> there actually a couple of programs for linux that can interact with ipods, however most ipods have to be older models
[05:23] <Stronze> woot learned a new command
[05:23] <puren00b> hello
[05:24] <puren00b> is anyody available to help me? My nick says it all
[05:24] <Stronze> but forgot how to start graphical interface from text lvl
[05:24] <puren00b> it's a miracle i was even able to get this chat program going :)
[05:24] <moes> aauthor, Thanks that worked
[05:24] <Seven_Six_Two> puren00b, there's a lot of people available, but nobody can make you a not-n00b
[05:24] <xangua> puren00b: and my name says i am not a mind reader so say your problem
[05:24] <sysRPL> puren00b: and you set you nick
[05:24] <puren00b> lol
[05:24] <aauthor> moes, no problem.  Glad to help!
[05:24] <puren00b> okay
[05:24] <puren00b> how to set my nick?
[05:24] <puren00b> i thought i already had!
[05:24] <Stronze> seven_six_two :D
[05:25] <Seven_Six_Two> puren00b, register your nick?
[05:25] <puren00b> how?
[05:25] <puren00b> lol
[05:25] <Seven_Six_Two> Stronze, I'm guessing that gave you a terminal?
[05:25] <xangua> !register | puren00b
[05:25] <puren00b> !register puren00b
[05:25] <Stronze> Seven_zix_two gave me non graphical interface
[05:25] <puren00b> nope
[05:25] <shcherbak> puren00b: /join #freenode
[05:26] <Stronze> Seven_six_two forgot what each interface levesl are, read it awhile back and forgot
[05:26] <aauthor> puren00b, did you have a question about ubuntu?
[05:26] <puren00b> yes
[05:26] <puren00b> i do
[05:26] <Seven_Six_Two>  Stronze that should have given you a text login.
[05:26] <aauthor> puren00b, what's up?
[05:26] <puren00b> i've installed 10.10 on this machine i'm on
[05:26] <Stronze> seven_six_two it did
[05:26] <puren00b> and it's perhaps beyond this machine's capabilities
[05:27] <puren00b> where can i find i list of the system's specs on ubuntu?
[05:27] <vyper1877> Google it
[05:27] <puren00b> no
[05:27] <puren00b> like
[05:27] <YankDownUnder> puren00b, You can always try: sudo dpkg --reconfigure xorg-server => see if that straightens ya out.
[05:28] <shcherbak> puren00b: Is it desktop or laptop?
[05:28] <Stronze> now how do i record the graphical error during a pc crash and retrieve after reboot?
[05:28] <puren00b> have ubuntu tell me the specs of the machine its on
[05:28] <puren00b> laptop
[05:28] <vyper1877> Oh, my bad
[05:28] <shcherbak> puren00b: What model of laptop?
[05:28] <Stronze> yankdownunder - you telling a noob to access xorg's text file?
[05:28] <Seven_Six_Two> Stronze, and when you login, try typing   dmesg    and read whatever is at the end of the output (while machine is not working). That might give you a hint. or try    less /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[05:28] <arand> puren00b: lspci gives you some of it
[05:29] <puren00b> okay hang on
[05:29] <YankDownUnder> Stronze, Nah mate - tellin' him the basic console command for reconfiguring xorg....easy peasey
[05:29] <puren00b> it's a packard bell easy note
[05:29] <puren00b> i actually can't find any other info on the case
[05:29] <YankDownUnder> Um...the Packard-:Bell site doesn't have any information?
[05:29] <puren00b> so can't ubuntu tell me what speed cpu and amount of ram are in here?
[05:29] <Stronze> yankdownunder - im still learning. of of these days im gonna get unlazy and read the guide i printed up for the nuts and bolts
[05:30] <YankDownUnder> Stronze, Um...yeah...reading is a good thing...hehehehehhehe
[05:30] <aauthor> puren00b: System>Administration>System Monitor
[05:30] <shcherbak> puren00b: Any easynote will run Ubuntu, can you boot it (till what stage if yes)
[05:31] <YankDownUnder> aauthor, Um...if he ain't gotta GUI, how's he gonna do that?
[05:31] <aauthor> YankDownUnder:  Oh, ha ha!  I missed that part.
[05:31] <puren00b> yes it boots
[05:31] <YankDownUnder> :)
[05:31] <puren00b> 700mb ram
[05:31] <lasha> hey guys anyone plays online chess on ubuntu 10.10 ?
[05:31] <Stronze> yankdownunder - love to read but tech manuals are the best sleeping aides in the world for me
[05:31] <puren00b> mobile AMD Athlon XP-M 2400+
[05:31] <puren00b> it runs
[05:31] <shcherbak> lasha: a bit
[05:31] <puren00b> 10.10 slowly
[05:31] <shcherbak> lasha: Nf3
[05:31] <puren00b> so
[05:32] <xangua> puren00b: it will work good if you don't use compiz
[05:32] <lasha> shcherbak: which software do you use ?
[05:32] <YankDownUnder> puren00b, Mate, hows this sound => boot to the console, login, right? Once ya login, type: dpkg --reconfigure xorg-server
[05:32] <puren00b> i don't
[05:32] <puren00b> at least i haven't enabled it
[05:32] <DaPenguin> tech manuals are good when used in conjunction with actually tearing something apart :)
[05:32] <lasha> shcherbak: Nf3 is an application name ?
[05:32] <geekahedron1> anyone know offhand how to open compiz config manager from a terminal?
[05:32] <puren00b> it works too slowly; i actually switched to ubuntu because xp was just getting too slow and the CD drive in this one is broken
[05:32] <xangua> !ccsm | geekahedron1
[05:32] <puren00b> so i thought i'd tyr ubuntu from a usb stick
[05:32] <puren00b> i've installed it now
[05:33] <shcherbak> lasha: jin (for fics), scid (database), xboard, fritz, arena (wine)
[05:33] <aauthor> geekahedron1, the command to start it up is ccsm, but that gives the gui.  That not what you want, right?
[05:33] <geekahedron1> yes, actually it was
[05:33] <YankDownUnder> puren00b, If ya got the point of getting it installed, ya might, stressing MIGHT be able to get Xorg running...
[05:33] <lasha> shcherbak: i have heard of fritz, from web or from repository ?
[05:33] <geekahedron1> i disabled unity from the gui
[05:33] <shcherbak> puren00b: ok, get Xubuntu, much faster.
[05:34] <puren00b> ok
[05:34] <geekahedron1> but i couldn't get gdm to run
[05:34] <puren00b> what's the difference?
[05:34] <aauthor> geekahedron1, alright, make sure you install it through the synaptic first.
[05:34] <geekahedron1> it's installed
[05:34] <puren00b> will Xubuntu still run google chrome? and VLC?
[05:34] <geekahedron1> but i had no gui
[05:34] <geekahedron1> i could only run things i knew by name :p
[05:34] <Unirgy> hi, i've upgraded to 10.10 and now apache gives segfaults all the time... where should i look for details?
[05:34] <aauthor> Ah OK!
[05:34] <huchosi> hi, do you know a link where i can make a kind of ubuntu one but with a folder from my server
[05:34] <YankDownUnder> puren00b, Yes...
[05:34] <shcherbak> lasha: one from web, one via wine (and arena run well older engines)
[05:34] <xangua> yes puren00b , even less resourses¿ !lubuntu
[05:34] <puren00b> k
[05:34] <aauthor> geekahedron1, quite the conundrum. :)
[05:35] <puren00b> i'm having another prolem too
[05:35] <puren00b> i can NOT get video to play on this one
[05:35] <puren00b> audio comes through but no picture
[05:35] <puren00b> even on VLC
[05:35] <Lancelot> Question about the new version of skype: does anyone know if it will work on Karmic? Is there another place I should be asking this?
[05:35] <DaPenguin> puren00b, what kind of gfx hardware?
[05:35] <lasha> shcherbak: I am trying to avoid installing wine because i feel like it corrupts comp with windows aura :D so there is no popular client specifically for linux/ubuntu ?
[05:35] <puren00b> onboard
[05:35] <YankDownUnder> puren00b, Um, mate, did you install all the codecs necessary to play video?
[05:35] <shcherbak> Lancelot: "new" version of skype?
[05:36] <Lancelot> shcherbak: the beta 2.2
[05:36] <DaPenguin> shouldn't need installed codecs for vlc...
[05:36] <puren00b> i had ral difficulty in acquiring codecs
[05:36] <puren00b> and yeah, shouldn't need codecs for VLC
[05:36] <xangua> Lancelot: download it and try it¿
[05:36] <puren00b> VLC is GREAT :D
[05:36] <Stronze> yankdownunder - give em that after install guide for his version
[05:37] <DaPenguin> puren00b, possibly an issue with the video driver
[05:37] <Lancelot> xangua: I don't want to install it just yet in case something goes wonky. I wanted to see if anyone else running Karmic had tried it
[05:37] <lasha> Lancelot: they made new version of skype for linux ?
[05:37] <puren00b> i figured it's because this computer just isn't up to running this OS and playing video at the same time
[05:37] <vyper1877> Lancelot, I was runing skype beta without a problem in karmic
[05:37] <shcherbak> lasha: xboard and scid is very decend duo, you will need to play around polyglot to get some engines to run.
[05:37] <Lancelot> lasha: Yes, an update. It's 2.2 now. http://blogs.skype.com/linux/2011/04/2_2_beta.html
[05:37] <Lancelot> vyper1877: are you running the new version of the beta?
[05:37] <YankDownUnder> puren00b, Just FYI, have you thought about using an older version of Ubuntu - like maybe 9.10 or so?
[05:37] <Lancelot> brb
[05:38] <lasha> shcherbak: hmm ok i will try those thank you :)
[05:38] <vyper1877> Lancelot: I was
[05:38] <shcherbak> Lancelot: I recall 8.10 deb on skype website.
[05:40] <shcherbak> Lancelot: You right, let try it!
[05:40] <puren00b> what's the difference with Xubuntu?
[05:40] <YankDownUnder> !Xubuntu
[05:40] <rene> o
[05:40] <rene> hello
[05:41] <puren00b> and how hard is it to change distro from this to an earlier one, or to Xubuntu?
[05:41] <Guest20542> i need help!!!
[05:41] <YankDownUnder> puren00b, Mate, you can just install it from the console: sudo apt-get install xfce-desktop => and wait...
[05:41] <puren00b> how big is it?
[05:41] <Lancelot> shcherbak: sounds good, I'll be back in a little bit
[05:42] <Guest20542> how can I unistall JULinux from my PC?
[05:42] <YankDownUnder> puren00b, I reckon about 30mb or so...
[05:42] <puren00b> srs!!
[05:42] <puren00b> so wait
[05:42] <shcherbak> puren00b: Guest20542 JULinux?
[05:42] <Guest20542> yes
[05:42] <puren00b> Xubuntu will STILL google chrome and VLC and it's a 30mb download
[05:43] <shcherbak> Guest20542 JULinux? What is it?
[05:43] <Guest20542> ill give you a link
[05:43] <shcherbak> ok
[05:43] <puren00b> ?
[05:43] <puren00b> Xubuntu will STILL google chrome and VLC and it's a 30mb download?
[05:44] <puren00b> will it still run games under wine?
[05:44] <Guest20542> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANkVyqVycO8
[05:44] <ramanand> Nopes no way to play games under wine  !!!!
[05:44] <YankDownUnder> puren00b, It's just a different GUI that doesn't suck up system resource...
[05:44] <puren00b> where does the extra 670mb go?
[05:44] <YankDownUnder> Too much WINE and ya can't do anything, really...
[05:45] <Guest20542> i wanted to put windows7 to my pc so that I can do some programing uisng C#
[05:45] <ramanand> had anybody a replacement for KMP player the korean one
[05:46] <Guest20542> has anyone heard about JULinux?
[05:46] <YankDownUnder> Heck of a place to ask about different linux distros...
[05:47] <Guest20542> lol
[05:47] <aauthor> Guest20542, you installed it as another operating system on your computer?
[05:47] <puren00b> lol dude i'm new here
[05:47] <Guest20542> yeah, i should not have
[05:47] <puren00b> my nick says it ALLLL
[05:47] <puren00b> i know nothing about linux other than it's free and i have it
[05:48] <Guest20542> The only OS I have is JULinux
[05:48] <puren00b> and terminal kicks the bollocks out of the DOS prompt lol
[05:48] <aauthor> Guest20542, then you could format your drive and install the operating system you wanted on top of it, right?
[05:48] <icedtea> puren00b: you can run cygwin in windows, which uses bash
[05:48] <Guest20542> I try to pt WIn7 but it says that it cant define an OS on my PC
[05:48] <Guest20542> I thought of that
[05:49] <puren00b> okay srsly now though
[05:49] <puren00b> you've seen my spces
[05:49] <puren00b> what's going to e ideal and yet still do what i want
[05:49] <puren00b> i just want to make this machine surf internet and load videos in VLC as fats as possible
[05:49] <shcherbak> Guest20542: Looks like you need to be convinced to download Ubuntu and install it (like it should be done), any objections?
[05:49] <Guest20542> how can I format my drive
[05:50] <Guest20542> I would if I could
[05:50] <Guest20542> I will try it
[05:50] <aauthor> Guest20542, is your Win7 disk a fresh-install license?  (I.e. not an upgrade only disk?)
[05:50] <YankDownUnder> Boot with liveCD, click SYSTEM => ADMINISTRATION => GPARTED PARTITION EDITOR, format drive.
[05:50] <Tuxx3d> hi
[05:50] <icedtea> is there a 3d opensource driver for recent nvidia cards? I'd rather not load closed source drivers on this system
[05:51] <Guest20542> I have a legit key but the win7 is a copy
[05:51] <kaushal> hi
[05:51] <Tuxx3d> anyone could lend me a hand with something?
[05:51] <YankDownUnder> icedtea, Um...the "normal" drivers are fine and dandy...or what are you getting at?
[05:51] <shcherbak> Guest20542: What is problem? To format drive (before Ubuntu instalation) insert LiveCD (ev. adjust bios booting setting) and start live session, and format drive.
[05:51] <icedtea> YankDownUnder: I can't get desktop affects enabled with the standard drivers
[05:52] <vyper1877> Icedtea are you using the optimus technology cards?
[05:52] <Tuxx3d> today i came back from work and all i see is a black screen with a blinking cursor
[05:52] <YankDownUnder> icedtea, Um...did you check SYSTEM => ADMINISTRATION => HARDWARE DRIVERS and see if you've got the recommended driver running/installed?
[05:52] <Guest20542> can I format it before anything else
[05:52] <icedtea> no, evga geforce 9800GT
[05:53] <YankDownUnder> icedtea, Funny that ....I"ve got the same card....
[05:53] <Tuxx3d> then when i tried to restart the computer it doesnt boot, stuck after post with this black screen
[05:53] <aauthor> Guest20542, yes you can.  With a Windows disk you can tell it to do a fresh install instead of an upgrade and it will walk you through formatting your disk.
[05:53] <Tuxx3d> then i popped a ubuntu live cd and it wont boot either
[05:54] <Tuxx3d> gives a error and warning something like "pwuid: Unknown user {0}"
[05:54] <Guest20542> i will try it
[05:54] <aauthor> Guest20542, however, if you want more detailed assistance, you might try going to #windows, as that's there area of expertise.
[05:54] <icedtea> YankDownUnder: its recommending I install the nvidia proprietary driver, I'd rather avoid that
[05:55] <YankDownUnder> icedtea, Well, mate, that's your choice. All good.
[05:55] <Guest20542> how can I come back to this chat? I am new at this
[05:55] <aauthor> Guest20542, what program are you using to access this chat on IRC?
[05:56] <Guest20542> it was on the OS hold on let me check
[05:56] <fizyplankton> Guest20542 is using xchat
[05:56] <Guest20542> YES
[05:57] <fizyplankton> just use "/ctcp Guest20542 version"
[05:57] <Lancelot> shcherbak: I'm back, how's the client?
[05:58] <kaushal> is there a way to measure network data flow ?
[05:58] <Lancelot> kaushal: open the process monitor
[05:58] <DaPenguin> kaushal, or netstat
[05:58] <kaushal> DaPenguin: netstat ?
[05:58] <kaushal> I need measurement in real time
[05:58] <Lancelot> kaushal: do that, or if you pick the process monitor go to the resources tab
[05:59] <DaPenguin> kaushal, cli app, run it in a terminal and see what it pops up :)
[05:59] <Lancelot> kaushal: both netstat and the process monitor give you live information
[05:59] <vyper1877> Kaushal You can also add the network applet to your task bar
[05:59] <povedaespinoza> alguien sabe español aqui?
[06:00] <DaPenguin> !es | povedaespinoza
[06:00] <vyper1877> You can keep an eye on your monitor that way
[06:01] <dr0id> hi guiz, just wondering wuts the purpose of hard links ? :)
[06:02] <nunuyabiz> why does my firefox jump up to 80% CPU usage all of the sudden?
[06:02] <dr0id> because yer loading loads of plugins ?
[06:02] <nunuyabiz> I don't have that many plugins, and it did that before when I even had less.
[06:03] <YankDownUnder> Could be that "special" plugin - the "Eatupresources.xpi"
[06:03] <vyper1877> nunuyabiz: flash can also cause this
[06:03] <Lancelot> YankDownUnder: HA! Nice one.
[06:03] <nunuyabiz> vyper1877 that would make sense. can it happen even if I'm not playing a movie?
[06:04] <YankDownUnder> Lancelot, (or could be the "ActLikeWindows.xpi")
[06:04] <Lancelot> XD
[06:04] <dr0id> hi guiz, just wondering wuts the purpose of hard links ? :)
[06:04] <icedtea> dr0id: the advantadge of a hard link is that even if you delete the first, original file, the second file that was linked will still have the data
[06:05] <dr0id> well, that's no advantage
[06:05] <puren00b> hey guys; how would i go about finding out what grahpics driver i need in ubuntu?
[06:05] <dr0id> I mean, if I change the hard link, the original files are not modified
[06:05] <nunuyabiz> also there is another process that jumps up to 80% cpu. It's the gdm/auth-for-gdm WTXQ anone know why that hogs cpu?
[06:05] <map7> I just upgraded java on my Ubuntu box and now I cannot login to the tax department, where do I find previous packages of java specifically 1.6.0.20 for Ubuntu 10.04 64bit?
[06:05] <dr0id> icedtea: so, better just have the original file ? :P
[06:05] <ayecee> dr0id: if you change the hard link, the original is modified.
[06:05] <icedtea> dr0id: no, if you change the hard link, the original file is modified too
[06:05] <dr0id> ohh
[06:06] <dr0id> why doesn't things work when I try :S
[06:06] <dr0id> hold on, will try again
[06:06] <YankDownUnder> puren00b, Are you at the console, or in the GUI?
[06:06] <vyper1877> Nunuyabi, look at your system monitor, it has happend to me that I close a session where I was using flash and the process keeps living even after closing firefox
[06:06] <puren00b> the gui
[06:06] <puren00b> i can use the terminal
[06:06] <puren00b> termainal is the same thing as console?
[06:06] <YankDownUnder> puren00b, SYSTEM => ADMINISTRATION => HARDWARE DRIVERS
[06:07] <Lancelot> Has anyone tried out the new version of skype in karmic?
[06:07] <icedtea> dr0id: I found in some instances some programs can't open symbol links properly though I think that was a while ago and may not have even been on linux, but another *nix os
[06:07] <icedtea> symbolic links rather
[06:07] <kaushal> Lancelot: so just run netstat ?
[06:07] <dr0id> hmm
[06:07] <din> i'm trying to upgrade to natty on my netbook but my ssd is only 4gb and doesn't have the space available to do so. can someone point me in the right direction?
[06:07] <kaushal> Lancelot: process monitor ?
[06:07] <nunuyabiz> vyper1877 that would explain why sometimes when I close or open firefox, an audio that I havn't listened to starts playing.
[06:08] <ayecee> din: natty narwhal support is in #ubuntu+1
[06:08] <Lancelot> kaushal: that's one way to go. If you just want bandwidth usage use the resources tab of the process monitor
[06:08] <puren00b> nope it's different on 10.10
[06:09] <dr0id> icedtea: aah yes. so symlinks just hold the reference to the original files, while hard links hold reference + data ? :)
[06:09] <opera> hello everyone
[06:09] <dr0id> hi Ope
[06:09] <dr0id> opera:
[06:09] <din> ayecee: this isn't natty yet. this is an issue with do-release-upgrade
[06:09] <opera> i  am a new bird
[06:09] <DaPenguin> dr0id, sort of
[06:09] <opera> who can help me
[06:09] <puren00b> there's no hardware pane under administration
[06:09] <dr0id> DaPenguin: thanks :)
[06:09] <ayecee> dr0id: a symbolic link refers to the original by name, a hard link refers to the original by inode
[06:09] <vyper1877> Yeap, sounds like that is the problem, I ended up reinstalling a fresh copy of firefox
[06:10] <[nDy]> Hi all, am thinking of starting to use linux (a friend has put me onto it) but I listen to Itunes Radio a bit but I guess that isnt available on linux?
[06:10] <ayecee> dr0id: a hard link increases the reference count so the file is kept if the original link is deleted. A symbolic link does not.
[06:11] <ayecee> dr0id: thus, you can have a dangling symlink (points to a file that no longer exists), but never a dangling hard link.
[06:11] <dr0id> ayecee: you thought symlink referred by inode too
[06:11] <YankDownUnder> There are all types of internet based radio playing programs for linux.
[06:11] <dr0id> I thought*
[06:11] <vyper1877> Ask away opera, and someone will respond
[06:11] <dr0id> for faster performance
[06:11] <ayecee> [nDy]: rhythmbox has a very similar interface, but I'm not sure if it does Itunes Radio in particular.
[06:11] <icedtea> dr0id: think of a symbolic link as just a file that contains the original filename that it points to. If the original file is wiped, the symbolic link still points to that directory location but its broken
[06:11] <ayecee> dr0id: nope, by name.
[06:11] <DaPenguin> just about any media player will accept an internet url as a playable file
[06:11] <opera> vype, thank you
[06:12] <ayecee> dr0id: the name is often stored in the directory entry though, instead of its own inode
[06:12] <dr0id> yeah, own inode. sorry
[06:12] <opera> i want  use opera , who can get me a book on how to use ubuntu
[06:12] <nunuyabiz> vyper1877 I went to system monitor and it reports that everything including xchat. The only thing it reports as running is gnome system monitor.
[06:13] <xangua> !manual | opera
[06:13] <Seven_Six_Two>  opera the internets. I saw thems around here somewhere
[06:13] <nunuyabiz> vyper1877 everything is sleeping.....
[06:14] <itilious> is it possible to extent the partition that ubuntu resides on?
[06:14] <opera> my email is  XMYUAN@126.COM
[06:14] <DaPenguin> itilious, yes, check out gparted
[06:14] <opera> xmyuan@126.com who can get me a book on how to use linux operate
[06:15] <itilious> i gotta be on live cd tho right?
[06:15] <puren00b> can anyone tell me how to check out what video drivers i need in 10.10
[06:15] <vyper1877> So is firefox running?
[06:15] <Seven_Six_Two> opera, ubottu gave you the answer to that question.
[06:15] <nunuyabiz> vyper1877 is it possible that system monitor could report everything is sleeping except the gnome system monitor
[06:16] <icedtea> puren00b: the OS should figure that out for you during the install, but there are exceptions and closed source drivers that often provide better 3d acceleration
[06:16] <nunuyabiz> not right now. I will open firefox now
[06:17] <puren00b> i ask because my movies play without video, audio only :(
[06:17] <puren00b> it's killing me
[06:17] <puren00b> even in VLC
[06:17] <icedtea> puren00b: to see if you have additional drivers that could speed things up, click on System->Administration->Additional Drivers
[06:17] <Seven_Six_Two> puren00b, what are you trying to watch
[06:17] <puren00b> i have no additional drivers listed there
[06:17] <puren00b> cartoons, movies
[06:18] <puren00b> mp4, avi, wmv, etc
[06:18] <puren00b> everything
[06:18] <opera> thank you everyone
[06:18] <Seven_Six_Two> puren00b, dvd?
[06:18] <puren00b> vlc plays it all but with no video
[06:18] <nunuyabiz> vyper1877 I opened firefox, and even though the cpu usage skyrocketed, system monitor reports it a sleeping!
[06:18] <puren00b> not DVD, this machine's dvd drive is bung
[06:18] <puren00b> that's why i'm ubuntu now lol
[06:18] <icedtea> puren00b: what type of video card/chipset does it have?
[06:19] <Seven_Six_Two> puren00b, can you put the output of   sudo lspci -vv       at    pastebin.com  and paste the url back here
[06:19] <puren00b> no idea
[06:19] <deadlight> whats different between gnome3-session(10.10universe) and gnome3
[06:19] <vyper1877> Nunuyabiz Hmmm that's weird, try using htop it is much better
[06:19] <sykes> puren00b, you have to enable universe, multiverse repos for restricted drivers
[06:19] <nunuyabiz> I am using htop, that is where I'm getting my cpu stats from
[06:19] <will_> hey guys. can anyone tell me if gedit's scrollbars respond when the program is maximised and you click on the very far right side of the screen? as far as you can push the mouse
[06:20] <will_> i'm trying to compose a bug report for the new overlay scrollbars (they don't respond in the same way as the old ones) in that specific case, which i think is a usability regression
[06:20] <puren00b> http://pastebin.com/4fiArDKQ
[06:21] <puren00b> i think i already have that enabled sykes
[06:21] <vyper1877> When you open firefox does it stay at 80% all the time or does the cpu usage go down?
[06:22] <nunuyabiz> no, it only jumps up there for short periods of time.
[06:22] <nunuyabiz> the gdm/auth-for-gdm WTXQ does the same thing. what the heck is WTXQ?
[06:23] <puren00b> Seven_Six_Two didja catch that?
[06:23] <linuxtech> As I started the upgrade to Natty I noticed it is using screen, is it also logging  to some file like script does?
[06:23] <nunuyabiz> I searched it on google ... no results
[06:23] <xangua> !natty  | linuxtech
[06:23] <vyper1877> Ok, if you can try disabling or uninstalling your pluggins one at a time and try to run ff to see if one of them makes a difference
[06:24] <nunuyabiz> that's a good idea..... I'll try that.
[06:24] <Seven_Six_Two> puren00b, yeah, I was looking at it. SiS video...
[06:24] <vyper1877> Gots to go, good luck
[06:24] <xangua> vyper1877: mozilla recently published an article about addons that make firefox slower
[06:25] <puren00b> am i going to need a special driver for ubuntu?
[06:25] <deadlight> whats different between gnome3-session(10.10universe) and gnome3,i want to use gnome3 in 10.10,can i use gnome3-session instead of gnome3?
[06:25] <nunuyabiz> xangua thanks I'll google that
[06:25] <puren00b> I seem to recall even getting the right driver to make it happy in windows was a trial
[06:25] <Seven_Six_Two> puren00b, maybe.     https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Sis
[06:26] <puren00b> ummm can you e a little more specific lol
[06:27] <Seven_Six_Two> puren00b, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1499280
[06:28] <ayecee> Seven_Six_Two: that seems to be for the sis671 rather than the sis65x
[06:28] <puren00b> should i try it then? Putting in the wrong driver can sure mess things up under windows
[06:28] <Seven_Six_Two> puren00b, not really. Those are important reading.    ayecee I didn't read that closely...
[06:29] <Seven_Six_Two> puren00b, the second thread is from a search based on your "video card" which is onboard video.
[06:29] <ayecee> hmm. is that a very old chipset?
[06:29] <puren00b> 6 years maybe 7?
[06:29] <Seven_Six_Two> the thread makes it sound that way. no 3d available.
[06:30] <dr0id> thanks a lot ayecee :)
[06:30] <ayecee> puren00b: from what I can tell, this one should be supported out of the box. are you having problems with it?
[06:30] <ayecee> puren00b: but yeah, no 3d
[06:30] <puren00b> oh bollocks, from the looks of this i won't have much luck playing games with it if i do anything with the drivers availalbe
[06:31] <puren00b> yes ayecee
[06:31] <puren00b> i can't get it to play videos, only audio comes out, even under VLC
[06:31] <Seven_Six_Two> puren00b, if it makes you feel any better, trying to get an ati card to work 8 years ago was how I learned to love/hate the prompt
[06:31] <will_> Seven_Six_Two: i've been trying to get an apparently supported ati card to work just a few WEEKS ago :(
[06:31] <ayecee> puren00b: does it do the same in mplayer?
[06:31] <puren00b> yup
[06:32] <puren00b> aw man the only things this laptop needs to do are play videos and surf the net\
[06:32] <ayecee> puren00b: what output driver does mplayer default to, and have you tried others?
[06:32] <Seven_Six_Two> will_, wow. I haven't had ati in a while.
[06:32] <puren00b> i only have the default ubuntu driver
[06:32] <puren00b> brb smoke time
[06:34] <zeus> Can anyone recommend a good low cost mic and cam that will work straight out of the box with ubuntu?
[06:35] <ayecee> puren00b: this is a shared memory video device, eh? It might help to increase the amount of ram allocated to it in the bios, it could be that it needs more room to do DRI of video.
[06:35] <will_> Seven_Six_Two: the open source radeon drivers are pretty cool if you get the lottery of having a card that works. my card downstairs in my other PC is perfect, gorgeous - KMS, compiz, smooth and lovely and moral
[06:35] <ayecee> zeus: I don't know about good and low cost, but the last one I picked up off the shelf at the supermarket worked fine.
[06:36] <ayecee> zeus: bizarrely, the cheaper it is, the more likely it'll work, since they'll use existing chipsets.
[06:36] <icedtea> zeus: I have a cheaper logitech one (maybe $20??) that works fine
[06:36] <zeus> thanks guys
[06:36] <linux-noob> join #python
[06:37] <icedtea> linux-noob: no ;)
[06:37] <zeus> i dont need anything fancy, so knowing that cheaper may be better is perfect
[06:37] <abhinav_singh> how do i start mongodb service on ubuntu
[06:38] <newby65> I am already using 3 partitions for win7 on my Dell N5010, is there any way to dodge the requirement of 2 primary partitions for ubuntu installation?
[06:38] <will_> zeus: that's probably a good rule of thumb. buying a 3D camera with bidirectional sound dampning and star wars-style blue projections is less likely to work than your standard lifecam type thing
[06:38] <ayecee> abhinav_singh: perhaps "service mongodb start"
[06:39] <will_> newby65: does ubuntu need 2 primary partitions? or do you mean for windows 7 AND ubuntu?
[06:39] <will_> newby65: this might not be what you'd be happy with, but wubi would definitely work
[06:39] <ayecee> newby65: you can have up to 4 primary partitions, but only one of them can be "active". however, if the bootloader is installed on the "active" partition or the mbr, that's not a problem.
[06:39] <newby65> I am convinced it does need, as /boot/ partition must be primary and then you want swap to be somewhere
[06:40] <ayecee> newby65: swap does not need to be a primary partition.
[06:40] <newby65> it doesn't but it must be on an extended one which takes a slot of primary
[06:40] <newby65> as a subpartition
[06:41] <ayecee> /boot need not be its own partition, but if it is, it should probably be primary. / need not be primary
[06:41] <jingqq5210> test
[06:41] <newby65> will_, thanks, I'll have a look at what it is
[06:41] <Marcus_123> ubuntu can be installed on a primary or extended partition
[06:41] <ayecee> jingqq5210: test passed
[06:41] <jingqq5210> ayecee: thx
[06:41] <nunuyabiz> vyper1877 I have disabled all my plugins, and firefox is running unusually quiet. I'll turn them on one by one gradually until I find the culprit. Then I'll disable it and only enable it when I need it.
[06:42] <newby65> ayecee, /boot/ must be on a primary partition, it might be the actual / partition, yes
[06:42] <nunuyabiz> what a difference. this thing has been driving me nuts
[06:42] <will_> newby: i recommend following everyone else's advice first - wubi is hardly ideal but it WILL work if you want ubuntu without adding an extra partition
[06:42] <ayecee> newby65: wright
[06:42] <ayecee> right, too
[06:42] <newby65> but that still means it takes a slot of primary partition, and I have only 1 remaining
[06:42] <newby65> so no place for swap
[06:43] <ayecee> newby65: the swap goes into the 1 remaining, right?
[06:43] <Marcus_123> as long as the grub is installed on mbr
[06:43] <newby65> there is none remaining after I create the /boot/ (or /) one:)
[06:43] <ayecee> newby65: you can have many extended partitions within a logical partition, and the logical partition takes one slot.
[06:43] <Marcus_123> it doesn't matter which partition ubuntu is installed
[06:44] <ayecee> ^^
[06:44] <Marcus_123> just put ubuntu into /
[06:44] <Marcus_123> let ubuntu decide for itself
[06:45] <newby65> ok, to clarify it a bit: 1st primary - taken up by dell something, 2nd primary - taken up by win7 system restore, 3rd primary - win7 OS, 4th - empty
[06:45] <ayecee> newby65: provided grub is installed in mbr instead of partition, that should be no problem.
[06:45] <ayecee> not the most popular choice, but functional in your case
[06:45] <Marcus_123> agreed
[06:46] <Marcus_123> just installed ubuntu as default
[06:46] <Bluebill-Wolf> lol nice
[06:47] <jiltdil> how to add music to my silent video ?
[06:47] <abhijeet> jiltdil: have u tried the prithvi
[06:47] <jiltdil> no
[06:47] <will_> ayecee: why don't people like installing it in the MBR?
[06:47] <Seven_Six_Two> who's an op here?
[06:48] <nunuyabiz> Bluebill-Wolf I was so exhausted after I wrote your nix that I couldn't write a message
[06:48] <Jordan_U> ayecee: No partitions in Ubuntu need to be primary. You can make an extended partition for partition 4 and put as many logical partitions within it as you want.
[06:48] <abhijeet> jiltdil: I think you can add the audio to video using prithvi.. it is just like a video editor
[06:48] <newby65> indeed, are there any drawbacks?
[06:48] <ayecee> Jordan_U: perfect
[06:48] <Seven_Six_Two> !ubottu list ops
[06:48] <Jordan_U> Seven_Six_Two: If you'
[06:48] <ayecee> will_: dunno. aesthetics?
[06:49] <Jordan_U> Seven_Six_Two: ... If you'd like to talk with the channel ops join #ubuntu-ops.
[06:49] <Seven_Six_Two> Jordan_U, thanks!
[06:49] <Jordan_U> Seven_Six_Two: You're welcome.
[06:49] <jiltdil> abhijeet:ok i am trying,please tell me why my mic is not recording sound to any of recorder also when i voice chat to any other person his voice comes to me but mine doesnot goes to him while using Windows OS it works fine
[06:49] <newby65> ayecee, do I loose anything in comparison to having a 'real' /boot/ partition?
[06:49] <Seven_Six_Two> Jordan_U, now that you mention that, someone told me that recently, and I forgot I had even asked.
[06:49] <nunuyabiz> newby65 be sure to learn how to use vmware!
[06:50] <ayecee> newby65: unless you're using a very old system, or very large disks, I don't think so
[06:50] <newby65> ok, thank you!
[06:50] <abhijeet> jiltdil: did u tried the voice recorder?
[06:50] <jiltdil> abhijeet:yes
[06:50] <Marcus_123> try the mic volume, turn it up
[06:50] <jwtiyar> while upgrading its stopped here http://postimage.org/image/2b50uaack/
[06:50] <abhijeet> jiltdil: can u see the bars when you speak louder
[06:51] <jiltdil> abhijeet:yes they are not moving they are still
[06:51] <abhijeet> jiltdil: then there must be issue.. one sec..
[06:51] <jiltdil> abhijeet:i tried almost many but i fail to record my sound
[06:52] <abhijeet> jiltdil: try alsamix in command prompt
[06:52] <nunuyabiz> newby65 they are all real partitions. 4 primary is just an old microsoft standard
[06:52] <jiltdil> ok now
[06:52] <abhijeet> you can see a gui right
[06:52] <jiltdil> abhijeet:yes i see,opened i actually tried alsamixer but idnot understood what to do
[06:53] <abhijeet> there go to the mice option increase the volume
[06:53] <jiltdil> abhijeet:front mic or just mic
[06:53] <mute> Anyone ever use Skype? Me and my girlfriend are skyping, and for some reason I'm getting her video on like a two minute delay and I don't know why.
[06:53] <abhijeet> jiltdil: u are in lappy
[06:53] <jiltdil> abhijeet:no in desktop
[06:54] <jiltdil> abhijeet:also there is option bosss mic
[06:54] <abhijeet> jiltdil: then i think it will be mic
[06:54] <ly> what is lappy
[06:54] <jiltdil> abhijet:ok m trying
[06:54] <abhijeet> jiltdil: anyway increase all of them .. we will see what  happens
[06:54] <ayecee> ly: lappy is slang for laptop
[06:54] <jwtiyar> while upgrading its stopped here http://postimage.org/image/2b50uaack/
[06:55] <ly> thanks
[06:55] <jiltdil> abhijeet:actually i tried all of them
[06:55] <ayecee> jwtiyar: how long have you waited?
[06:55] <abhijeet> jiltdil: :(
[06:55] <jwtiyar> its 20 minutes or more
[06:55] <arvy> Who can tell me how to install my network printer [HP laserjet 1213nf MFP
[06:55] <jwtiyar> ayce
[06:55] <jiltdil> abhijeet:it didinot work again
[06:56] <jwtiyar> ayecee, its 20 minutes or more
[06:56] <ayecee> jwtiyar: any disk activity?
[06:56] <nunuyabiz> arvy have you tried to plug it in yet? maybe it will hot plug
[06:56] <abhijeet> jiltdil: okay... have u tried the sound options from menu bar
[06:56] <jwtiyar> ayecee, i dont understand
[06:56] <abhijeet> there check the input h/w
[06:56] <jiltdil> abhijeet:i tried but you tell me i will also try it please
[06:56] <ayecee> jwtiyar: there is a light that flashes when your disk is used. do you see that flashing?
[06:57] <jwtiyar> ayecee, nope
[06:57] <abhijeet> jiltdil: okay
[06:57] <jiltdil> abhijeet:please wait for 5min i am coming some urgent if u don't mind
[06:57] <ayecee> jwtiyar: there are two options, and neither one is pretty. one is to open a terminal and try to figure out what is stuck. the other is to reboot and pray.
[06:58] <abhijeet> jiltdil: sure
[06:58] <ayecee> Khisanth: have i seen you on efnet?
[06:58] <Khisanth> no
[06:58] <ayecee> ok
[06:59] <jwtiyar> ayecee, sorry but i dont know what to do in terminal ? , its not finished yet to restart it
[07:00] <ayecee> jwtiyar: run "ps aux" and pastebin the results
[07:00] <povedaespinoza> disculpa el canal de español cual es??
[07:01] <jwtiyar> ayecee, http://pastebin.com/mDGsGC9J
[07:01] <arvy> nunuyabiz: Thanks.I've plug it in my computer all ready.
[07:01] <ayecee> jwtiyar: sorry, "ps auxwww"
[07:02] <povedaespinoza> como hago para ir al panel de español..
[07:02] <ayecee> !es | povedaespinoza
[07:02] <jwtiyar> ayecee, http://pastebin.com/KeSjSL2J
[07:03] <arvy> nunuyabiz: The printer can be found.But the driver is wrong...and,I can not find the current driver for ubuntu
[07:04] <ayecee> jwtiyar: my guess is to "kill 26903", the process that's trying to start mysql. Anyone else want to take a stab at it?
[07:04] <jwtiyar> ayecee, ok whats whole command to kill it?
[07:04] <ayecee> jwtiyar: that's the whole command
[07:05] <nunuyabiz> arvy here is a thread on how to do it:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=200179
[07:05] <NegativeZer0> hello
[07:05] <ohsix> y helo
[07:06] <NegativeZer0> how goes it?
[07:06] <jwtiyar> ayecee, i did and itarted again
[07:06] <nit-wit> NegativeZer0, ask your question
[07:06] <ayecee> jwtiyar: with a different process id?
[07:06] <nit-wit> ;)
[07:07] <arvy> nunuyabiz: thanks
[07:07] <jwtiyar> ayecee, after i killed mysql the installing updates started againg and its doing updates now
[07:07] <ayecee> jwtiyar: oh good!
[07:08] <jwtiyar> ayecee, thanks , i will install lamp again if the mysql doesnt work
[07:08] <jiltdil> abhijeet:thanx should we proceed now please
[07:08] <nunuyabiz> arvy I don't know if that will work but I think it's worth trying. I see you said you can't find the driver, but Besides, whatever is wrong may become evident when you go throught that.
[07:08] <ohsix> brusque up!
[07:08] <ayecee> ok
[07:09] <RealOpty> wats best filesystem for linux? ext4?
[07:09] <ayecee> RealOpty: yes, sure
[07:09] <ohsix> there's no best, ext4 is pretty good for a lot of things though
[07:09] <ohsix> theres a lot of things you can do with files and each scenario will have an ideal choice; but for general use, ext4
[07:10] <RealOpty> is ext3 better?
[07:10] <ayecee> RealOpty: not in a way that you'd notice.
[07:10] <ohsix> depends, ext4 has different file allocations and extents, which can make it much faster in ideal situations
[07:10] <RealOpty> mmm does the journal use less filespace?
[07:10] <ohsix> ext3 added a journal to ext2 and made some other changes, but nothing i can remember stands out as worth mentioning
[07:11] <ohsix> couldn't say
[07:11] <nunuyabiz> RealOpty ext4 is good for fast bootup and it is more mature than ext3 it has greater recovery capabilities
[07:11] <magelan> лорарвр
[07:11] <mute> Ffff
[07:11] <ayecee> nunuyabiz: wait, what? more mature?
[07:11] <nunuyabiz> journaling uses more space
[07:11] <ayecee> nunuyabiz: I think you're using that term in a way I have not seen.
[07:11] <RealOpty> lol
[07:11] <abhijeet> jiltdil: okay
[07:12] <ayecee> nunuyabiz: perhaps you meant "modern" or "advanced"
[07:12] <ohsix> the log size is adjustable but you probably wouldn't want to mess with anything you can change when you create the fs; defaults are good outside of exceptional cases
[07:12] <RealOpty> i think he means more like bleeding edge
[07:12] <xro> Hi, i would like to  create a script that backup some files and send me an e-mail at the end... what should i use to send an e-mail in a bash script?
[07:12] <ayecee> xro: maybe sendmail
[07:12] <nunuyabiz> your right, that is not the correct use of mature
[07:12] <RealOpty> ^- sendmail
[07:13] <xro> but sendmail is a mail server, no?
[07:13] <ayecee> xro: yes, and it's also a command to send mail
[07:13] <ohsix> xro: bsd-mailx works and is small / default thing for most packages needing to send mail
[07:13] <jiltdil> abhijett:please tell me hnow what to do
[07:14] <ohsix> xro: and much less complex if you just want to send a mail to a local or remote address
[07:14] <nunuyabiz> ayecee it seemed to me that ext3 was more mature than ext2, even thought the bugs may not have been worked out.
[07:14] <DND> hi guys need help with scripting. here is the line: CRITICAL - load average: 0.48, 0.53, 0.54|load1=0.480;0.000;0.000;0; load5=0.525;0.000;0.000;0; load15=0.540;0.000;0.000;0;
[07:14] <RealOpty> Anyone have any suggestions on nvidia HDMI audio? I dont want to remove pulseaudio :\
[07:14] <xro> and don't really want to install a mail server on a production server... so i would like a minimal tool to send mail... mailx is the best?
[07:14] <DND> i wanted to get the 0.54 only so how can i cut everything else
[07:14] <ayecee> nunuyabiz: in what way?
[07:15] <ohsix> RealOpty: probably should state the problem, from the information you've given, you just need to switch the device in the volume control properties
[07:15] <ohsix> RealOpty: unless you mean you want to _use_ hdmi, and send more than pcm stereo
[07:15] <RealOpty> oh yeah lol
[07:15] <nunuyabiz> wasn't ext3 based on ext2 but journaling was added to it?
[07:15] <ohsix> xro: no best, but like i said, small/simple, and default used by a lot of  packages that send mail
[07:16] <ohsix> nunuyabiz: among other things, but yes
[07:16] <RealOpty> problem is it dont work with pulseaudio. it detects it but no sound. but ALSA works
[07:16] <xro> ohsix, ok... so i will use it...
[07:16] <ohsix> nunuyabiz: there's lwn articles about it, and detailed summaries on kernelnewbies.org, btu you'd have to find out what kernel it was introduced in
[07:16] <noisewaterphd> xro: check out SSMTP
[07:16] <xro> thanks all for your advices
[07:16] <xro> ok
[07:17] <ayecee> nunuyabiz: that was the most notable feature, but there were also directory htrees, and presumably other things
[07:17] <noisewaterphd> xro: its what i use in my projects. very small stripped down, can connect out externally to like gmail for sending, or send from the localhost, secure and only does what you need it to
[07:18] <sangeeth> How to install gnome3 stable in ubuntu 10.10?..
[07:18] <ohsix> RealOpty: you might need to set default-sample-rate; but i don't think you still need to, it would be something to try (don't forget to revert it if it isn't the fix) it's in /etc/pulse/daemon.conf, and you can restart pulse with killall pulseaudio or pulseaudio -k
[07:18] <superman097> is gnome3 stable?
[07:18] <noisewaterphd> sangeeth: i believe its apt-get install gnome3-session
[07:19] <RealOpty> ohsix, ty ill try
[07:19] <RealOpty> !ALSA
[07:19] <ohsix> superman097: i don't think it is upstream yet, but i haven't checked in a while
[07:19] <noisewaterphd> superman097: gnome3 was officially released today, so yes
[07:19] <ohsix> that settles that, thanks noisewaterphd
[07:19] <cheater00> hi
[07:19] <Big_bear> i got "##c++ Cannot send to channel", does anyone tell me what happened?
[07:19] <ohsix> Big_bear: you probably need to be registered to speak
[07:19] <cheater00> Big_bear: you got banned or muted
[07:19] <cheater00> or need to register.
[07:20] <noisewaterphd> ohsix: i don't think the release has made it in to the package repositories yet, I have no idea whats in there right now
[07:20] <ohsix> or it's +m and you're not voiced
[07:20] <sangeeth> noisewaterphd: I hope that it is not yet updated with the latest release...
[07:20] <ruan> help! if i go to sound properties, no sound hardware is detected! and i cant play any audio
[07:20] <cheater00> i have a problem, the update manager is mentioning an upgrade to me, but i don't know what it would be upgrading to. how do i find out?
[07:20] <ruan> but in lspci, it shows 00:05.0 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP61 High Definition Audio (rev a2)
[07:20] <ohsix> ruan: see if the output of fuser -v /dev/snd/* is empty
[07:20] <noisewaterphd> sangeeth: no, im sure the official release hasnt made it in yet, but you can download and build yourself
[07:20] <Big_bear> thanks
[07:20] <ruan> ohsix: Specified file name /dev/snd/* does not exist.
[07:20] <JohnTeddy> Is there any way in the software center to find out which package is teh most popular?
[07:20] <sangeeth> noisewaterphd: Thanks !!!
[07:21] <Big_bear> thanks all
[07:21] <sangeeth> noisewaterphd: Hope building it would be simple...
[07:21] <ohsix> ruan: then something is very wrong, did you mess with the sound related modules, modprobe.d options, or try and install from source OSS or newer versions of alsa?
[07:21] <nunuyabiz> cheater00 what version of ubuntu are you running?
[07:21] <ayecee> sangeeth: hah! that's funny.
[07:21] <cheater00> 10.04 LTS
[07:21] <ruan> ohsix: i tried to install OSS before this happened, not from source though
[07:21] <sangeeth> ayecee: Which is???
[07:22] <ruan> sound was very choppy in OSS
[07:22] <ohsix> ruan: well there you go, just revert it and forget OSS exists; come back with your real problem and we'll fix it without papering over it :]
[07:22] <noisewaterphd> sangeeth, should be straightforward if you are comfortable building from source, or maybe gnome has a .deb download already, i don't know.
[07:22] <RealOpty> Anyone use OpenWRT :D ?
[07:22] <nunuyabiz> cheater00 it will upgrade to 10.10
[07:22] <sangeeth> noisewaterphd: Cool
[07:22] <ruan> ohsix: how do i revert it? remove the packages?
[07:22] <ayecee> sangeeth: the idea that any gnome project would be easy to compile :)
[07:22] <ayecee> RealOpty: kind of the wrong channel, eh?
[07:22] <noisewaterphd> sangeeth: i'd just hit http://gnome3.org and see what is available.
[07:22] <cheater00> nunuyabiz: but i chose not to upgrade to 10.10 when it first came out, why would it be mentioning the upgrade now?
[07:22] <noisewaterphd> sangeeth: and report back your experience because I'm considering checking it out myself
[07:23] <ohsix> ruan: what's the package name?
[07:23] <RealOpty> ayecee, nah, just wondering if any one that uses ubuntu uses it :)
[07:23] <ayecee> RealOpty: in that case, yes :)
[07:23] <nunuyabiz> cheater00 you don't need to upgrade, and you don't have to. Just don't click on the upgrade button and close the update manager
[07:23] <ruan> ohsix: oss4-base
[07:23] <ruan> ohsix: and oss4-compat and gtk
[07:24] <ohsix> ruan: chances are the package blacklists all of the alsa modules too
[07:24] <sangeeth> noisewaterphd: I had already checked it out... The beta version before 3 days... It's real awesome... Especially the modifications for chat and Activities, a new addition are superb...
[07:24] <ruan> it does
[07:24] <cheater00> nunuyabiz: ok, but why is it all of a sudden mentioning the upgrade at all?
[07:24] <ohsix> ruan: ok purge it
[07:24] <Nick_Meister> hello guys i tried to update my 10.10 to 11 and now it freezes at startup
[07:24] <sangeeth> noisewaterphd: Just do it, sudo apt-get install gnome3-session
[07:24] <nunuyabiz> cheater00 It's just letting you know. I don't upgrade because I want LTS
[07:24] <Nick_Meister> i am able to drop into root shell and start up gdm from there
[07:24] <ruan> ok brb, rebooting
[07:24] <Nick_Meister> but other than that normal boot freezes
[07:24] <sangeeth> noisewaterphd: I already got it, but not getting any update for the first stable release
[07:25] <cheater00> nunuyabiz: but it let me know a few months back already
[07:25] <sangeeth> noisewaterphd: Will try to build it
[07:25] <cheater00> nunuyabiz: why would it "let me know" again?
[07:25] <icedtea> Nick_Meister sounds like a video card driver problem
[07:25] <RealOpty> ayecee, i <3 openwrt. do you use ushare at all?
[07:25] <ayecee> RealOpty: never heard of it
[07:25] <nunuyabiz> cheater00 it will always let you know. It doesn't matter if it lets you know
[07:25] <Nick_Meister> icedtea, so what should i do>???
[07:25] <icedtea> Nick_Meister:  look at the xorg.log in /var/log
[07:26] <cheater00> nunuyabiz: then why did it not let me know every time i ran the upgrade manager for the last 6 months?
[07:26] <nunuyabiz> cheater00 just a fluke!
[07:26] <cheater00> where does this fluke come from? i want to figure it out
[07:26] <noisewaterphd> sangeeth: it looks like the gnome3 website hasnt even been updated yet which is wierd. you wouldnt think they would send out a press release before the site is ready? here is a link to the press release though: http://www.gnome.org/press/2011/04/gnome-3-0-released-better-for-users-developers-3/
[07:26] <icedtea> Nick_Meister: Xorg.0.log, sorry
[07:26] <RealOpty> ayecee, its a upnp streamer thingy. love it. just needs a the ability to transcode on the fly.
[07:26] <nunuyabiz> cheater00 it doesn't matter. That's all that matters.
[07:26] <Nick_Meister> icedtea, where can i find that?
[07:26] <ruan> ohsix: thanks! my sound works now
[07:27] <cheater00> i don't think you have helped me
[07:27] <ruan> evil oss :(
[07:27] <ohsix> ruan: np, why did you bother with OSS?
[07:27] <icedtea> Nick_Meister: its in "/var/log" folder
[07:27] <ruan> ohsix:  a game needed it
[07:27] <ayecee> RealOpty: transcoding on the fly sounds processor intensive
[07:27] <nunuyabiz> cheater00 feel fortunate, now you have a purpose in life!
[07:27] <ruan> ohsix: sound was choppy with its version
[07:27] <ohsix> ruan: padsp or aoss didn't work?
[07:27] <Nick_Meister> icedtea, ok ill brb going to go check it out
[07:27] <ruan> ohsix: havent tried aoss, padsp came out choppy, original game had no sound at all
[07:27] <sangeeth> noisewaterphd: Just check this out... Goto gnome.org and then click on the banner that's appearing...
[07:27] <nunuyabiz> cheater00 I'm really trying!
[07:28] <cheater00> i don't think so
[07:28] <cheater00> ok, never mind
[07:28] <ruan> woah
[07:28] <ruan> now it's not choppy anymore
[07:28] <cheater00> maybe there's someone else who actually knows
[07:28] <RealOpty> ayecee, it is indeed. i just need to find a codec that works on the PS3 and XBMC
[07:28] <ayecee> RealOpty: oh hey, that looks useful
[07:28] <noisewaterphd> sangeeth: thanks, found it
[07:28] <sangeeth> noisewaterphd: No problem :) !!!
[07:29] <ohsix> ruan: pulse can get a little messed up if it's long lived, something with the resampler and swapping out; i haven't tracked it down, but it is safe to kill it if you suspect it is messing up, it will restart itself
[07:29] <sangeeth> noisewaterphd: It is really cool... I suggest you to try  it...
[07:29] <nunuyabiz> cheater00 you could be that someone! what an honor!
[07:29] <ayecee> i bet rhythmbox would like talking to that
[07:29] <Nick_Meister> icedtea, the last thing that it says is NVIDIA using gamma correction and boom EOF
[07:29] <cheater00> nunuyabiz: please stop trolling
[07:29] <sangeeth> noisewaterphd: Also, for its complete features try some features description in any site...
[07:30] <RealOpty> ayecee, rythmbox needs a upnp client integrated.
[07:30] <ayecee> cheater00: what was your question?
[07:30] <noisewaterphd> sangeeth: here is what looks like a decent write up on installing gnome3 on ubuntu from the source repo: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/10/install-gnome-shell-from-git-in-ubuntu.html
[07:30] <ayecee> RealOpty: doesn't it have one? I don't have it handy to check
[07:30] <ayecee> RealOpty: maybe as a plugin
[07:30] <ohsix> it does have one, you just need to turn it on
[07:31] <sangeeth> noisewaterphd: Checking it out...
[07:31] <noisewaterphd> sangeeth: ya, I plan to install it this week and see what's up. I'm testing out unity on 11.04 right now, and so far I'm not very impressed at all
[07:31] <RealOpty> ayecee, i dont remember seeing it in the pluin list
[07:31]  * RealOpty looks again
[07:31] <icedtea> Nick_Meister: if you hit ctrl+alt+f1 can you return to a console?
[07:31] <Jordan_U> cheater00: To have it only prompt for LTS releases go to System > Administration > Software Sources and change the "Show new distribution releases:" option to "Long Term support releases only".
[07:32] <sangeeth> noisewaterphd: Oh !! Let's Wait till it gets perfect !!!
[07:32] <icedtea> Nick_Meister: or does X just freeze up
[07:32] <Nick_Meister> icedtea, nope complete freeze
[07:32] <jingqq5210> icedtea: that's tty
[07:32] <icedtea> jingqq5210: ty
[07:32] <sangeeth> noisewaterphd: But, I love GNOME 3... Try it right now... sudo apt-get install gnome3-session
[07:32] <sangeeth> noisewaterphd: It's really COOOOOL...
[07:33] <cheater00> Jordan_U: that's the weird thing, i remember having set it when 10.10 first came out, and it still is set. what do you think is going on?
[07:33] <RealOpty> ohsix, where can i find this plugin?
[07:33] <icedtea> Nick_Meister: where you using the nvidia closed source drivers before?
[07:33] <ohsix> RealOpty: in the options
[07:34] <Momen> hi all my problem after install lamp and php5 all my systm not work  how can add php4  in server
[07:34] <Nick_Meister> icedtea, i was using nvidia-current package
[07:35] <noisewaterphd> sangeeth: i may do it sooner than later, ive got a multiboot system and im using natty right now. I'll probably boot back into meerkat to install gnome3 though. Maybe tomorrow
[07:35] <panfist> i'm trying to delete a user but i get an error that the user is logged in
[07:35] <RealOpty> ohsix, its not in the plugin list lol or 'options'
[07:35] <Jordan_U> cheater00: Can you pastebin your  /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades?
[07:35] <NoPasaran> hey guys
[07:35] <NoPasaran> got a problem
[07:35] <NoPasaran> ain't there a firefox 4 for ubuntu yet ?
[07:35] <panfist> but, if i ps ef|grep username or |grep uid, nothing shows up
[07:36] <ohsix> RealOpty: hm
[07:36] <sangeeth> NoPasaran: Firefox  4 will be inbuilt in Ubuntu 11.04
[07:36] <cheater00> it's just  "[DEFAULT]", comments, and "prompt=lts". (without the quotes)
[07:36] <NoPasaran> ok thanks
[07:36] <ohsix> RealOpty: it's here, theres a rhythmbox-plugins package, but i don't remember having to had it installed and it's worked as long as i can remember
[07:37] <cheater00> Jordan_U: ^
[07:37] <Jordan_U> cheater00: "prompt" or "Prompt"?
[07:37] <systemf1> join #ubuntu cn
[07:37] <cheater00> lowercase.
[07:37] <ohsix> RealOpty: hm it's not here anymore, let me look into it
[07:38] <systemf1> 中文如何进入？
[07:38] <Jordan_U> cheater00: Try changing it to "Prompt" then.
[07:38] <cheater00> Jordan_U: ok. how does it look on your installation?
[07:38] <icedtea> Nick_Meister: can you post the Xorg.0.log somewhere?
[07:38] <ohsix> RealOpty: it's in rhythmbox-plugin-coherence, i forgot i reinstalled
[07:38] <Jordan_U> cheater00: Prompt=normal
[07:38] <noisewaterphd> NoPasaran: firefox4 is in the package manager right now. just sudo apt-get install firefox
[07:38] <Nick_Meister> icedtea, do you happen to know the command line tool to send files to pastebin>>>???
[07:39] <Nick_Meister> cause its a different computer
[07:39] <RealOpty> ohsix, ty :)
[07:39] <Momen> any answer
[07:39] <Jordan_U> !pastebinit | Nick_Meister
[07:39] <noisewaterphd> NoPasaran: its been there for at least a week, because i installed it about a week ago
[07:39] <cheater00> Jordan_U: that has not changed the behaviour of update-manager
[07:39] <Jordan_U> cheater00: Can you post a screenshot?
[07:40] <Nick_Meister> i tried apt-get pastebininit and it said not found
[07:41] <icedtea> apt-get install pastebininit
[07:41] <nunuyabiz> Nick_Meister go to paste.ubuntu.com
[07:41] <Nick_Meister> icedtea, it did not work
[07:41] <Jordan_U> Nick_Meister: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[07:41] <Nick_Meister> dont work....
[07:42] <ohsix> cheater00: it has an upgrade button but doesn't say what version? its safe to click on that button btw, it will bring up a readme about the new release; which you can cancel
[07:42] <Chr|s> It should. Dbl check
[07:42] <Jordan_U> Nick_Meister: Please pastebin the exact output of "sudo apt-get install pastebinit"
[07:42] <Nick_Meister> wth....
[07:42] <cheater00> ohsix: no it has a "partial upgrade" button
[07:43] <cheater00> ohsix, Jordan_U: http://tinyurl.com/3vhgugh
[07:43] <ohsix> cheater00: peculiar
[07:43] <Jordan_U> cheater00: Partial upgrade is not the same as distribution upgrade. Partial upgrade is most likely caused by a PPA.
[07:43] <cheater00> yes!
[07:43] <cheater00> Jordan_U: hmm..
[07:43] <ohsix> (ppas should be purged before upgrades)
[07:44] <ohsix> cheater00: ahh that is a different dialogue than most people would think based on what you have said
[07:44] <cheater00> ohsix: "purged"? what does this mean?
[07:44] <ohsix> cheater00: it doesn't mean a distro upgrade, it means among the packages with new versions, it can only handle partially upgrading them
[07:45] <cheater00> hmmmm
[07:45] <Jordan_U> cheater00: Partial upgrade means that some packages have been held back or need to be removed to complete the upgrade. As the message states this shouldn't normally happen with a stable release, unless you are using third party packages / repositories.
[07:45] <cheater00> ok, sorry about the confusion then
[07:45] <ohsix> cheater00: i was talking about distro upgrades, (say 10.04 -> 10.10, which this isn't is) but the package ppa-purge removes and pins original versions to restore your system as if the ppa hadn't been installed
[07:45] <ohsix> cheater00: no problem
[07:45] <cheater00> ohsix: so was i - i thought it was a distro upgrade
[07:45] <cheater00> how do i find out any details about what cannot be "upgraded"?
[07:45] <ohsix> anyone have a clue to how to get aptitude to prefer solutions that will do holds over any installs or removals
[07:45] <Jordan_U> cheater00: Run "sudo apt-get upgrade" in a terminal.
[07:46] <ohsix> cheater00: i'd use aptitude, synaptic can probably give you a list too; but i don't use it
[07:46] <NoPasaran> noisewaterphd: did you find it in Synaptic?
[07:46] <ljsoftnet> where do i get skype the full version, not the beta version?
[07:47] <cheater00> The following packages have been kept back:  winetricks            ok, makes perfect sense
[07:47] <cheater00> thanks guys!
[07:47] <systemf1> ubuntu cn
[07:47] <erkan^> what mean %u example firefox %u for a command?
[07:48] <icedtea> ljsoftnet: I think they only offer the beta version right now
[07:48] <Seven_Six_Two> erkan^, that would be to pass firefox a variable, like a file name
[07:48] <ljsoftnet> icedtea ah ok, you know where i can get the 2.1 version?
[07:48] <erkan^> ow ok
[07:48] <Seven_Six_Two> erkan^, or a url, of course
[07:49] <icedtea> ljsoftnet: not been released yet I believe. I check the website ever so often
[07:49] <erkan^> Seven_Six_Two, sorry for pm. i am tried a url
[07:49] <icedtea> ljsoftnet: www.skype.com has deb's to install from there
[07:50] <ljsoftnet> icedtea the latest beta version, is showing a very dark color on my webcam
[07:50] <systemf1> ubuntu 中文聊天室如何进入？
[07:50] <Seven_Six_Two> erkan^, no problem. if it is calling that in a shortcut or menu item, it would also be use with "open with" in context menus and such
[07:50] <erkan^> yes i understand it
[07:50] <kreantos> hi
[07:50] <icedtea> systemf1: #ubuntu-cn
[07:51] <systemf1> icedtea 谢谢
[07:51] <kreantos> can i use 11.04 already for productive needs?
[07:51] <systemf1> #ubuntu-cn
[07:51] <Seven_Six_Two> systemf1, !ubuntu-cn
[07:51] <Seven_Six_Two> err...
[07:52] <thumb1040> i'm having some audio problems. mp3blaster is saying "failed to open sound device." my audio works on rythmbox and movie player though. any thoughts?
[07:52] <arand> kreantos: no, and #ubuntu+1 for support
[07:52] <icedtea> systemf1: /join #ubuntu-cn
[07:52] <kreantos> ok, thanky you
[07:52] <blocky> anybody able to tell me why I can't get tftpd running no matter what I try?
[07:53] <blocky> dnsmasq is supposed to enable it, no?
[07:54] <icedtea> ljsoftnet: strange, yeah the skype beta for linux isn't as nice as the windows one unfortunately, they really haven't put that much time into it and it shows
[07:55]  * RealOpty trys gnome3
[07:55] <ljsoftnet> icedtea ok thanks, im gonna try 2.1 which worked, im downloading it rigth now
[07:57] <RealOpty> um lol gnome3 reminds me of a crippled netbook running ubuntu
[07:57] <ohsix> :]
[07:59] <noisewaterphd> RealOpty: you should try unity if you think gnome3 is bad
[08:00] <noisewaterphd> I see my self revisiting xcfe in the near future
[08:00] <RealOpty> ^- same
[08:00] <ohsix> or the classic session
[08:00] <RealOpty> <3 terminal
[08:01] <noisewaterphd> well, if i have to bother messing with defaults, i slightly prefer xfce anyway so I would go back. gnome2 isnt bad enough to warrant the small amount of work, unity on the other hand definitely does
[08:01] <RealOpty> does flash work in lynx LOL ?
[08:02] <noisewaterphd> should
[08:02] <ohsix> RealOpty: it probably could with great effort, or for silliness, but i don't know of anyone who has done such things :]
[08:03] <RealOpty> at least someone caught my humor
[08:03] <noisewaterphd> apparently you missed mine
[08:04] <RealOpty> lol :) why am i awake at 3 am?
[08:04] <nunuyabiz> I noticed it <silently>
[08:04] <noisewaterphd> east coast eh?
[08:04] <Seven_Six_Two> RealOpty, maybe you are like me, and think better when nobody else is around.
[08:05] <RealOpty> I do love quiet time.
[08:06] <RealOpty> oh yeh now i remember !
[08:06] <RealOpty> anyone use XBMC?
[08:07] <Seven_Six_Two> I have in the past
[08:07] <RealOpty> like on the oldschool xbox?
[08:07] <Seven_Six_Two> no, on a pc
[08:07] <Seven_Six_Two> oh, yes. like that. but it was in ubuntu
[08:08] <NoPasaran> noisewaterphd: still have problems with firefox
[08:08] <nunuyabiz> Other than gnome, I only use ice on my server
[08:09] <MK`> If I put my home directory on a separate partition, is it easier for me to resize that partition later?
[08:09] <kriscolt> anyone know the apt-get line for grabbing codecs?
[08:09] <RealOpty> I have a NAS that runs OpenWRT, i use ushare to stream my media to 3 xbox's, 2 ps3s, and a few computers. i need a codec that works on all.
[08:09] <jiger> HI, quick question is there anyway that i can play " rtsp link extension .wsx in vlc player? well its live feed. all comments/help welcome.
[08:09] <Seven_Six_Two> MK`, no
[08:09] <noisewaterphd> NoPasaran: what problems
[08:09] <nit-wit> kriscolt, which codecs
[08:09] <tyreza> hello there
[08:09] <jiger> is there anyone can help please? or is there anyway to download or convert that stream to another wmv or any other extension?
[08:09] <kriscolt> um... all of them?
[08:09] <nunuyabiz> kriscolt do a google on medibuntu
[08:10] <NoPasaran> is just say " firefox is already the newest version.
[08:10] <kriscolt> i think i'm trying to play divx or xvid
[08:10] <tyreza> hello there
[08:10] <robbiethe1st> Hey guys - Simple question: what's a good way of 'preloading' a copy of Ubuntu onto a spare harddisk(from within a ubuntu install)?
[08:10] <phrozen> hi I made sudo adduser --system --no-create-home  --group svn
[08:10] <phrozen>  and now I am trying to connect via ssh and ubuntu wants password to log in - when I turned on users manager then I can not see user svn - where is a problem - how to set up the password?
[08:10] <tyreza> how to ping 3 ip at same time ?
[08:10] <nit-wit> kriscolt, for general stuff in the terminal sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras  if your runninh=g ubuntu
[08:10] <NoPasaran> and i can't find it in Synaptic
[08:10] <tyreza> i mean how to ping 3 URL same time
[08:10] <MK`> Ah, so I need to have both mounted at all times?
[08:11] <tyreza> i mean is it possible to ping :        $ping  www.bing.com www.google.fr www.yahoo.fr
[08:11] <noisewaterphd> NoPasaran: sorry, i though it was there by default, it looks like you actually need to add this repository: ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable
[08:11] <tyreza> at the same time ?
[08:11] <Seven_Six_Two> MK`, if you only have / and /home then more or less. You don't have to have /home mounted unless you want to do something user related.
[08:12] <phrozen> Adding new system user `svn' (UID 117)...
[08:12] <phrozen> adding a system user `svn' (UID 117) to group `svn'...
[08:12] <robbiethe1st> tyreza: Uh... why?
[08:12] <phrozen>  and now I am trying to connect via ssh and ubuntu wants password to log in - when I turned on users manager then I can not see user svn - where is a problem - how to set up the password?
[08:12] <tyreza> just liket that
[08:12] <Seven_Six_Two> MK`, which of course is just about everything except fixing stuff
[08:12] <NoPasaran> <noisewaterphd: thanks I will try that
[08:12] <gaurav_help> while updating my ubuntu 10.10 is Shows me  error "requires Installlation of untrusted packaages
[08:12] <folorn> oof
[08:12] <MJBrune> how many packages are there in ubuntu and what is a site that can tell me this number?
[08:12] <robbiethe1st> tyreza: Uh... I'd just open three terminals, run 'ping X' in one, 'ping y' in the second etc.
[08:13] <noisewaterphd> NoPasaran: So in ubuntu software center choose Settings>Repositories>Other Software, click on the add button and paste in that PPA
[08:13] <folorn> depends on how many programs u dled
[08:13] <robbiethe1st> MJBrune: Uh... a lot. Many thousand
[08:13] <Seven_Six_Two> MJBrune, !repos
[08:13] <MJBrune> robbiethe1st: I understand this, freebsd has 22k in ports and tells this.
[08:13] <NoPasaran> noisewaterphd: OK
[08:13] <Seven_Six_Two> !repos
[08:13] <gaurav_help> while updating my ubuntu 10.10 is Shows me  error "requires Installlation of untrusted packaages
[08:14] <MJBrune> Seven_Six_Two: again i am looking for a number
[08:14] <MJBrune> Seven_Six_Two: none of these say a number.
[08:14] <robbiethe1st> MJBrune: Hm, let me check. apt may give that info
[08:14] <folorn> im haveing a minor problem with tor and need the right repos i think possibly anyone know the correct ones so it will recongize and find them when i go to update before the install?
[08:15] <MJBrune> robbiethe1st: probably wont
[08:15] <nunuyabiz> gaurav_help that probably means that you have installed packeges on your box that are not in the supported reposetories
[08:15] <robbiethe1st> MJBrune: Uh... why not? it has a cache file with the entire list
[08:15] <MJBrune> robbiethe1st: ok sorry, i meant it might but that wont help me if its not on a website.
[08:15] <MK`> I know you can't alter the size of the / partition without using a livecd, but if I have /home on another partition, can I unmount it to resize it, then remount it, I mean?
[08:15] <robbiethe1st> MJBrune: well, at least of all the ones in the repos you have enabled
[08:16] <robbiethe1st> MJBrune: Uh... why?
[08:16] <robbiethe1st> MJBrune: what are you trying to do?
[08:16] <MJBrune> robbiethe1st: creating a report.
[08:16] <MJBrune> robbiethe1st: i need hardcore statistics.
[08:16] <gaurav_help> nunuyabiz, so what i do
[08:16] <nunuyabiz> MK that would depend on if you have free space eg. if you want to increase the size
[08:17] <tr3nton> !chm
[08:17] <pc_> hello
[08:17] <robbiethe1st> MJBrune: Well, cite it as being from apt in Ubuntu 10.10. Anyone who actually cares can look it up
[08:17] <pc_> i am confused
[08:17] <pc_> has any installed justlinux
[08:18] <tyreza> that's not a good solution robbiethe1st
[08:18] <MJBrune> robbiethe1st: ok how many are there?
[08:18] <nunuyabiz> gaurav_help personally, I would just go ahead and upgrade because I am the one that installed any unsupported packages
[08:18] <MJBrune> robbiethe1st: thats a piss poor way to cite but meh im not a stickler
[08:19] <asadeddin>  Hey all. I have a problem that i need some help with. We're moving from one ip to another and I need to update the MX record, doing this will give me some downtime because i have to wait for the thing to propagate and then swtich the hardware and software setup
 is there a way i can setup the new MX record while keeping the old one so that the new one propagates and then i can switch the hardware and software setup quickly  then i can delete the old record
[08:20] <robbiethe1st> According to "apt-cache search .+ | wc -l", I get 35013
[08:20] <kurrata> hi, today my eclipse plugin for c++ broke, anyone knows what could be wrong?
[08:20] <gaurav_help> nunuyabiz, How i Install these unsupported packages
[08:21] <robbiethe1st> MJBrune: So, incase you missed that - 35013 for my system with Universe/multiverse and some other bits enabled
[08:22] <MJBrune> robbiethe1st: :/ thats not accurate.
[08:22] <MJBrune> robbiethe1st: thanks anyways.
[08:22] <Seven_Six_Two> MJBrune, 32,218 for me. 10.10 with everything but sources enabled
[08:23] <nunuyabiz> gaurav_help are you updating from the update manager? When it give you an error, does it give you a "Details" button?
[08:23] <robbiethe1st> MJBrune: Uh... how is it not accurate? I mean... it's going to vary based on the version used, the repos enabled and such
[08:23] <robbiethe1st> MJBrune: Best you could get is a per-repo/version table... But even that's subject to change
[08:24] <gaurav_help> nunuyabiz, yes its shows me
[08:24] <MJBrune> robbiethe1st: yeah your pull of wc -l could mean that the description took 2 lines or more
[08:24] <folorn> im haveing a problem finding the right source's for it could anyone help?
[08:24] <nunuyabiz> what are the details? post them in pastebin or tinyurl
[08:25] <robbiethe1st> MJBrune: Doesn't work that way. Pipe it through less witrh a wider console; they all are on one line excluding wordwrap
[08:25] <robbiethe1st> MJBrune: and it doesn't count that.
[08:25] <nit-wit> folorn, http://www.torproject.org/
[08:26] <nunuyabiz> gaurav_help you need to run apt_get update in the terminal
[08:26] <nit-wit> folorn, tor has it's limitations in speed and privacy, read up on it.
[08:26] <Seven_Six_Two> robbiethe1st, that's what I would do too, but my synaptic says 32218 and your command counts 30469. I don't know why
[08:27] <robbiethe1st> Seven_Six_Two: Uh, it should. I've got different sources enabled.
[08:27] <gaurav_help> nunuyabiz, then after running that in terminal what i will do
[08:27] <Seven_Six_Two> robbiethe1st, lol. I'm an idiot. I forgot I had ssh'd into my server  :/
[08:27] <robbiethe1st> Seven_Six_Two: Heh
[08:27] <sobersab1e> hi.
[08:28] <nunuyabiz> guarav_help after you run apt_get update go to this website for instructions on how to get the missing keys
[08:28] <nunuyabiz> http://www.liberiangeek.net/2010/10/fix-requires-installation-untrusted-packages-error-ubuntu-10-10-maverick-meerkat/
 MK that would depend on if you have free space eg. if you want to increase the size
[08:28] <folorn> i know nitwit im on the torproject just haveing trouble with the sources. think u can help?
[08:28] <MK`> Yeah say I have [/] [space] [/home] and I want to expand /home into that space
[08:28] <MK`> can I do that without a livecd?
[08:28] <red> Can anyone help me with SSH tunneling?
[08:28] <sobersab1e> I have a local admin user user1. I am trying to duplicate it by copying->chowning/chmodding files for user2.
[08:29] <red> I need to route my internet access on this PC through a remote server
[08:29] <sobersab1e> when I am trying to pop up update manager, I am still being asked for password for user1.
[08:29] <Seven_Six_Two> MK`, I created a partition, and set it to mount at /home/username/storage
[08:29] <sobersab1e> Why is it so, and how do I fix this ?
[08:29] <robbiethe1st> red: Easy. PM me
[08:29] <Cheery> I plan migrating to nginx on my server. But before I'm going to install one, does ubuntu have a process manager that'd particularly let me provide multiple instances of nginx all with different configs?
[08:29] <Seven_Six_Two> MK`, so you don't have to resize your home in most cases
[08:30] <dragonkeeper> Whats the best graphics driver to use with ubuntu 10.10, i have a hd 5770
[08:30] <sobersab1e> Cheery: what do you mean by "provide"
[08:30] <Cheery> (and different users)
[08:30] <MK`> Ok. I just wanted to know if what I said was possible
[08:30] <rodhash> Hey guys.. I'd to install gnome3-session, but how can I make a backup of my entire system? This is my work computer and I can't take the risk of any problem.. I'd have a big problem if I can't login..
[08:31] <Cheery> sobersab1e: well I'll need one root nginx to proxy around things, and many user nginx to serve each site in it's own user space.
[08:31] <Seven_Six_Two> MK`, it's possible to resize. I wouldn't try it without a live cd, and I wouldn't do it if I had important data. If you got it wrong you can always start over,,,
[08:31] <Cheery> sobersab1e: and I'd need to get them start up on boot
[08:31] <sobersab1e> Cheery: I don't understand your sentences. I understand each word though.
[08:32] <MK`> Ok. It's a fresh install and /home is empty
[08:32] <MK`> right now it's on the same partition as /
[08:32] <Seven_Six_Two> rodhash, a live cd, and dd  will give you a bit by bit image
[08:32] <Cheery> sobersab1e: it's common that ppl don't understand me. but you understand this right?
[08:32] <sobersab1e> the last sentence - I do understand.
[08:32] <Seven_Six_Two> rodhash, if you don't mind bash
[08:32] <sobersab1e> and partially some of the previous ones. speak simply. makes it clearer. moment.
[08:32] <Cheery> sobersab1e: 1. I need to define bunch of processes to start up at boot.
[08:33] <rodhash> Seven_Six_Two: what do you mean?
[08:33] <Cheery> sobersab1e: 2. I'd like to have a way to stop and restart them.
[08:33] <sobersabre> I'm back.
[08:33] <Cheery> sobersabre: how to do those things? :)
[08:33] <sobersabre> Cheery: I don't think this is the right channel.
[08:33] <sobersabre> it's app-specific domain.
[08:34] <sobersabre> go to nginx related chan, IMHO.
[08:34] <Cheery> ubuntu is a distribution, it has a process manager.
[08:34] <sobersabre> Cheery by "process manager" you mean an app to show you the processes running, etc. ?
[08:35] <Seven_Six_Two> rodhash, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dd_(Unix)
[08:35] <mark-a> hey, i knwow this is a bad idea but need it for torubleshooting: can i get a python script to run with su permissions or the permissions of a particular user?
[08:35] <ferengee> red, all your trafic? or just one port
[08:35] <Cheery> sobersabre: nah. that'd be `top` - display linux tasks
[08:35] <sobersabre> Cheery: then wtf are you talking about... ?
[08:35] <sobersabre> what is "process" you're talking about ?
[08:36] <Cheery> sobersabre: process manager is a program that starts and stops processes autonomously.
[08:36] <theos> hi! the beep sound in my system suddenly changed to static sound. how can i change it?
[08:36] <theos> like a buzz
[08:37] <Cheery> sobersabre: process is an instance of program, executing the program in system memory.
[08:38] <theos> its called "alert sound". it was "default" but now its an annoying buzz sound
[08:38] <folorn> does anyone know anything better than tor thats user friendly that accomplish's about the same thing
[08:38] <NoPasaran> noisewaterphd: you are the demigod of the day, thanks for the help!
[08:39] <theos> folorn, tried a shell?
[08:39] <folorn> that doesnt protect the browser?
[08:40] <krage> how do you go under a proxy via ubuntu  netbook remix
[08:40] <nunuyabiz> Cheery do you want to run something like apache virtual hosts in ngix?
[08:41] <rodhash> Guys, what if I run 'dd' with the ubuntu running? Will it work?
[08:41] <Cheery> nunuyabiz: well nginx does virtual hosts, but I need to protect the web apps from each other too. that's why I'll put them into their own user space each.
[08:41] <Cheery> I guess I found what I need anyway though.
[08:42] <biopyte> hi, how can i preload openoffice at startup, so its starts faster once i need it? and how can i preload the ubuntu main menu, so there is no delay clicking it the first time?
[08:42] <Seven_Six_Two> rodhash, not a good idea on a mounted partition and open files. unmounted only, which means live. There are ways to backup without imaging. there are quite a few solutions listed in synaptic
[08:42] <folorn> you know much about that torproject theos?
[08:43] <nunuyabiz> Cheery doesn't apache do that? in other words it gives each virtual user its own configuration.
[08:43] <rodhash> Seven_Six_Two: Ok, another question: I'm using LVM, can I back up only the system or should I back up the entire disk?
[08:44] <Seven_Six_Two> rodhash, I have never used lvm, so I will have to defer to someone who has. sorry.
[08:44] <Cheery> nunuyabiz: yeah, and I've got apache running as well, but I'm bored to apache and the messy configs it has.
[08:44] <nunuyabiz> Cheery what solution did you find?
[08:45] <Cheery> nunuyabiz: I guess I'll need to write a python script which I'll then position into /etc/init.d/
[08:45] <Cheery> nunuyabiz: not sure yet how I'll make it run at bootup
[08:45] <Seven_Six_Two> rodhash, a quick search reveals that dd isn't recommended with lvm, but a filesystem backup would be easiest.
[08:50] <user123456> :)
[08:52] <MK`> does /home contain anything aside from user-specific settings?
[08:52] <MK`> Like, if I installed a new version of ubuntu, would it touch /home at all? etc.
[08:52] <tuxx-> MK`: not only the user specific settings, but also their files.
[08:52] <MK`> yeah of course
[08:53] <tuxx-> depends on what your setup is. Is your /home directory on your root partition? Or did you place it on a seperate partition?
[08:53] <MK`> It's on the root partition right now, I am reading up how to move it to a separate partition
[08:54] <MK`> but once I do move it
[08:54] <V3NOM> hi guys
[08:54] <MK`> hi
[08:54] <tuxx-> best thing to do, in my opinion, is backup /home, install the new system with a /home partition, and copy them back :-P
[08:54] <V3NOM> does it exist a ubuntu news channel or something like that?
[08:54] <MK`> This is a brand new install of linux btw
[08:55] <tuxx-> MK`: maybe you can look at http://www.howtoforge.com/linux_resizing_ext3_partitions
[08:55] <tuxx-> if its ext3 ofc :-P
[08:55] <MK`> I am currently reading this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving
[08:56] <susundberg> V3NOM: mayby google it: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ubuntu+news
[08:56] <tuxx-> hehe
[08:56] <V3NOM> thanks guy
[08:58] <V3NOM> I love ubuntu :-P
[08:59] <MK`> what is stored in gvf files?
[08:59] <MK`> and yeah it's great
[09:01] <jussi> how do I find out how much space is available on a usb disk from the CLI in ubntu 8.04
[09:01] <nunuyabiz> jussi df
[09:01] <ruan> sudo fdisk -l
[09:02] <jussi> nunuyabiz: thank you :)
[09:02] <MK`> say, about the article I linked
[09:02] <MK`> should I login as root for that
[09:02] <MK`> or use any admin user
[09:02] <ruan> !sudo
[09:02] <MK`> ah, so just prefixing with sudo will do the same?
[09:03] <ruan> depends on the command
[09:03] <MK`> I thought it would limit it somehow heh
[09:03] <ruan> sudo does all root commands
[09:03] <ruan> gksudo for graphical apps
[09:03] <MK`> ok
[09:04] <V3NOM> bye bye
[09:04] <MK`> can I resize my root partition from either side using a livecd with no problems?
[09:04] <kleinlappies> hey guys if i want to do a dist upgrade do I enter sudo apt-get dist-upgrade? or should i first do something with the sources.list file? eg edit it with the newdist. sources list? did a install last night off older cd, now just want to updrage.
[09:04] <ruan> yes. with gparted which is included
[09:05] <MK`> ok
[09:05] <ruan> but always backup before partitioning
[09:05] <MJBrune> is ubuntu rolling release?
[09:06] <MK`> How much space do I need for /, excluding /home?
[09:06] <ruan> rolling?
[09:06] <DJones> MJBrune: No its not, it has a 6 monthly release cycle
[09:06] <nunuyabiz> kleinlappies first do sudo apt_get update then do sudo apt_get upgrade
[09:06] <ruan> !partitioning
[09:07] <MJBrune> DJones: yes but does it require a CD to install the next version?
[09:07] <kleinlappies> oh cool so just the upgrade on need to edit the sources file? the system is up to date at the moment, thx
[09:07] <ruan> MJBrune: no
[09:07] <DJones> MJBrune: No you don't a cd to upgrade, you can upgrade automatically via the web
[09:07] <phonex01> how can i make FTP server on my own laptop so i can login to it and manage users and such things ?
[09:07] <ruan> MJBrune: but you can upgrade via the alternative cd if necessary
[09:07] <nunuyabiz> MK you can easily get by with 5 or 6 gigs, but I use 10
[09:07] <phonex01> im using ubuntu 10.10
[09:07] <nunuyabiz> to be safe
[09:08] <MK`> hm
[09:08] <nunuyabiz> In case I need room to install lots of packages later
[09:08] <Guest86223> hello everybody
[09:08] <MK`> it's a 15GB drive, I figure I can use it for / and swap
[09:08] <kleinlappies> nunuyabiz j ust  the upgrade on need to edit the sources file? the system is up to date at the moment, thx
[09:08] <MK`> and have home elsewhere; it's 1.5GB
[09:08] <Guest86223> hey is there anyone who help me for project????
[09:09] <ruan> Guest86223: what is it?
[09:09] <nunuyabiz> kleinlappies I don't think you need to edit sources file, they will import to the upgrad I'm pretty sure
[09:09] <benzaldehyde> phonex01: sounds like fun. apache makes i believe /var/www world wide accessable. can't imagine it would all that different than how 'it' handles it. as far as creating accounts i'd imagine that would be a system wide thing with permisions and such
[09:10] <kleinlappies> nunuyabiz great thx gonna do that justnow.
[09:10] <benzaldehyde> phonex01: when you find out let me know :D
[09:10] <Guest86223> ruan: my project is to add a package to the kernel and than again recompile the kernel so that package shud get installed automatically along with the  kernel..
[09:10] <phonex01> FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd, MuddleFTPd, wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: PureAdmin, GProftpd (for GNOME), KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[09:10] <phonex01> https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/serverguide/C/ftp-server.html
[09:10] <ruan> !ftp
[09:11] <wizardken_> any utilities that are internal dictionaries??? meaning no connection needed to use them and are comprehensive?
[09:12] <theos> hi! the system alert sound suddenly changed to static/buzz sound. how can i change it?
[09:12] <benzaldehyde> phonex01: ubottu will also tell you that !webmin is no longer supported or maintained or what have you but i used it before and it was kinda like operating a webcart with a backend and all that, user friendly though i know i will get flamed for recommending it to you :D
[09:12] <MK`> can I resize swap safely with gparted on a livecd as well?
[09:12] <ruan> theos: system > preferences > sound
[09:12] <ruan> MK`: i believe so, yes
[09:12] <MK`> ok
[09:12] <theos> ruan, i tried that thanks. but it doesn no effect
[09:13] <ruan> theos: choose an alert sound?
[09:13] <_-_Marek11_-_> Is that the first channel on that server?
[09:15] <theos> ruan, yes i chose an alert sound but it doesnt get applied. i can hear it when i click on it like dog bark etc. but it doesnt get activated
[09:15] <LarsTO> Hi!
[09:15] <kjesle> Will the new Gnome 3 work for ubuntu 10.10?
[09:16] <LarsTO> No
[09:16] <theos> must be buggy
[09:16] <LarsTO> Hope somebody can help me too
[09:16] <ikonia> LarsTO: you need to ask a question
[09:17] <LarsTO> ok
[09:17] <LarsTO> well ... start at the beginning
[09:17] <ikonia> LarsTO: just summerise your question
[09:17] <LarsTO> it was a sunny day i walked around in the park garden. i thought and thought ...windows is expensive
[09:17] <LarsTO> ok well
[09:17] <Vanquish349> thia channel is impossible to talk on
[09:18] <ikonia> Vanquish349: what's up ?
[09:18] <theos> haha
[09:18] <LarsTO> i want using Gnome 2 ! or at least gnome 3 but not unity
[09:18] <theos> LarsTO, you can try the gnome shell for the time being
[09:18] <ikonia> LarsTO: gnome 2 is available in ubuntu 8.04 to ubuntu 10.10
[09:18] <LarsTO> in the next ubuntu editions... no possibility ?? only advice changing to xfce ?
[09:19] <saini> oblem
[09:19] <ikonia> LarsTO: use what ever desktop manager you like, all have pros/cons, gnome/kde/xfce/fluxbox etc, try them see what works for you
[09:19] <LarsTO> i want gnome
[09:19] <theos> LarsTO, (will be buggy) sudo apt-get install gnome-shell , gnome-shell --replace
[09:19] <saini> x11/keysym.h not found problem
[09:19] <ikonia> LarsTO: ok, so then you are limited to ubuntu 8.04 to ubuntu 10.10 for gnome 2
[09:20] <LarsTO> and ubuntu 11.04
[09:20] <LarsTO> it is also gnome 2
[09:20] <ikonia> LarsTO: that is upgraded to a later version of the gnome base
[09:20] <LarsTO> but not ubuntu 11.10
[09:20] <benzaldehyde> Are there any hotkeys like nano has ctrl+w to search through a manpage?
[09:20] <ikonia> 11.10 doesn't exist yet
[09:20] <LarsTO> yes i know
[09:20] <LarsTO> but i read any articlesa
[09:20] <benzaldehyde> and firefox has ctrl+f etc.
[09:21] <saini> x11/keysym not found
[09:21] <ikonia> LarsTO: then it's wrong - as 11.10 doesn't exist so people don't know what's available in it
[09:21] <MK`> since /home is empty I am just going to reinstall.
[09:21] <LarsTO> mh
[09:21] <ruan> theos: click the round button next to the sound
[09:22] <theos> MK`, you can try adding users and see before reinstalling. /home has users
[09:22] <MK`> see what?
[09:22] <theos> ruan, which round button? to select the desired alert sound? i tried but it doesnt select it
[09:22] <Karen_m> I installed openjdk and 'idea' complains.  it wants sun-jdk, how do I install sun-jdk
[09:22] <saini> hello
[09:23] <saini> hello
[09:23] <supraken> god damn't i love ubuntu
[09:23] <ruan> Karen_m: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[09:23] <mikebeecham> hi guys...I'm getting a little worried about my machine. It's not a bad spec, but the screen is starting to lag when I drag windows around
[09:23] <saini> x11/keysym.h not found problem
[09:23] <ruan> Karen_m: wait, jdk?
[09:23] <mikebeecham> ALMOST like windows when there are no driver files installed?
[09:23] <ruan> Karen_m: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk
[09:23] <ikonia> saini: what are you trying to do ?
[09:24] <saini> x11/keysym.h header file not found
[09:24] <benzaldehyde> i have heard that chromium is a fast lightweight web browser but i just want to throw in the ring a good word for Mirdori
[09:24] <Karen_m> ruan, i do aptitude search sun and it doesn't come up,trying that
[09:24] <ikonia> saini: what are you trying to do
[09:24] <ikonia> benzaldehyde: no-one is asking for browser opinions
[09:24] <Karen_m> E: Package 'sun-java6-jdk' has no installation candidate
[09:24] <saini> x- windoes programming
[09:24] <ruan> Karen_m: the partner/multiverse repos must be enabled
[09:25] <Karen_m> ruan, oh.. have a guide?  sorry lol
[09:25] <ikonia> saini: ok, so you need to install the X11 development packages for the headers
[09:25] <ruan> Karen_m: go to software sources
[09:25] <benzaldehyde> ikonia: that's rude, you misspelled summarize unless however you are from the UK :D
[09:25] <ruan> Karen_m: in system > administration > software sources
[09:25] <saini> tell me command
[09:25] <ikonia> benzaldehyde: it's not rude, it's pointless you making random statements like that, and I am from the UK
[09:25] <nunuyabiz> benzaldehydy I might try Mirdori.... Firefox is such a hog, I'm getting tired of it and Chromium is a hog too
[09:25] <LarsTO> ikonia: do you use ubuntu 10.10 gnome ? :)
[09:26] <ruan> Karen_m: then check the multiverse option (fourth option)
[09:26] <ikonia> LarsTO: it doesn't matter what I use
[09:26] <rodhash> Guys regaring my concern in installing gnome3, if some incompatibility occurs among the gnome3 and any of the softwares from my company.. is there a way to go back to the previous state?
[09:26] <LarsTO> ok
[09:26] <Karen_m> I don't have Software sources under that, hrmm
[09:26] <ikonia> rodhash: what pervious strate ? eg: gnome 2?
[09:26] <UbuntuUser> Hey guys, I would like to start using Linux... Could you maybe give me some more information?
[09:26] <benzaldehyde> ikonia: if one is to avoid making repititious statements about that which he seeks help for what other alternatives are there but to change the subject
[09:26] <rodhash> ikonia: yes
[09:26] <ruan> Karen_m: enable it from Main menu in system > preferences
[09:26] <ikonia> UbuntuUser: http://help.ubuntu.com is a good introduction to Ubuntu linux
[09:26] <ruan> Karen_m: or go to software sources from synaptic
[09:27] <ikonia> UbuntuUser: as is http://www.ubuntu.com
[09:27] <ikonia> rodhash: if there are no packages available for your distro, no
[09:27] <rodhash> ikonia: what do you mean?
[09:27] <avinashhm> Hi , is there any way to specifiy which all applications to run after a machine boots up ?? ex - i want xchat to be launched on a restart ... any way to do that ?
[09:27] <ikonia> rodhash: if canonical push out gnome3, but put gnome2 packages in the repos you can downgrade, if not, you're limited to gnome3
[09:27] <ruan> Karen_m: or run gksudo software-properties-gtk
[09:27] <rodhash> ikonia: so, can I back up the current packages installed and reinstall later in case of any issue occurs?
[09:28] <ikonia> rodhash: what version of ubuntu are you using ?
[09:28] <nunuyabiz> rodhash I'm not gonna touch gnome 3 for a while. I'm sticking with LTS 10.4
[09:28] <rodhash> ikonia: 10.10
[09:28] <saini> command for install x11 package
[09:28] <ruan> saini: which x11 package?
[09:28] <ikonia> rodhash: ok, so 10.10 uses gnome2, so there shouldn't be a problem
[09:28] <Karen_m> ruan, the weird thing is.. multiverse is selected
[09:28] <benzaldehyde> nunuyabiz: not a bad idea, LTS is released every two years?
[09:29] <saini> X11/keysym.h not found problem
[09:29] <nunuyabiz> every three years
[09:29] <benzaldehyde> nunuyabiz: thank you
[09:29] <ruan> Karen_m: odd. what happens if you search it in synaptic?
[09:29] <rodhash> ikonia: Ok, lets say the gnome3 doesn't work fine with the softwares from my company.. how would I go back to gnome2?
[09:29] <Guest86223> is there any one who can help me for my kernel recompilation project??????
[09:29] <ikonia> rodhash: on 10.10 ?
[09:29] <ikonia> Guest86223: what's the question ?
[09:29] <rodhash> ikonia: yes
[09:29] <ikonia> rodhash: you won't have a problem with gnome3 as 10.10 uses gnome 2
[09:30] <saini> x11/keysym.h not found problem
[09:30] <rodhash> ikonia: I hope so, but I'm using a lot of softwares from my company.. and I'm worried if any of them gets any incompatibility
[09:30] <ikonia> saini: yes, and I've told you what to do
[09:30] <benzaldehyde> nunuyabiz: and now, i am gonna wiki search to prove you wrong, because, i have no wife, uh uh i mean life :D
[09:31] <ikonia> rodhash: why ? 10.10 uses gnome2 NOT gnome3, so any problems with gnome3 won't affect 10.10 as it doesn't use gnome3
[09:31] <saini> command & process
[09:31] <nunuyabiz> benzaldehyde same difference
[09:31] <ikonia> saini: what ?
[09:32] <benzaldehyde> nunuyabiz: my sentiments precisely
[09:32] <rodhash> ikonia: Sorry let me explain, I know it uses gnome2 but I wanna upgrade to gnome3.. and my concern is if there's a way to go back in case of any issue..
[09:32] <saini> how i can install it
[09:32] <ikonia> rodhash: remove the gnome3 packages, install the gnome2 ones
[09:32] <ikonia> saini: open the package manager, browser for the X11-devel packages and install them
[09:32] <ikonia> "browse"
[09:32] <rodhash> ikonia: ok.. could you give me some tips on how to do that?
[09:32] <benzaldehyde> nunuyabiz: "It was decided that every fourth release, issued on a two-year basis, would receive long-term support (LTS)" -wiki
[09:32] <Karen_m> ruan, , OH I NEVER ENABLED THE KEY or something, it complained about the key
[09:33] <Karen_m> i did this, hopefully it works : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[09:33] <ruan> Karen_m: ok
[09:33] <nunuyabiz> rodhash make a clone of your system before you install gnome 3
[09:33] <ikonia> rodhash: open the package manager, install gnome3 packages, if you don't like it, open the package manager, remove the gnome3 packages
[09:33] <ruan> Karen_m: also, sudo apt-get install restricted-extras
[09:34] <Karen_m> ruan, what is that?  says "unable to locate package restricted-extras"
[09:34] <Guest86223> ikonia: i wanna add a vlc player along with kernel so that when i install the kernel than vlc player must also automatically install with it.
[09:34] <Karen_m> i finally have the sun version now!!
[09:34] <benzaldehyde> nunuyabiz: i had heard a rumor that it was supposed to be every three years but then moses dropped the third tablet :D
[09:34] <Karen_m> maybe now all my issues will go away
[09:34] <nunuyabiz> benzaldehyde I guess your right 8.04 10.04
[09:34] <meera> hi, can someone tell me what grub is
[09:34] <ruan> Karen_m: hmm, now i cant find it
[09:34] <ikonia> Guest86223: that's not a good idea
[09:34] <Karen_m> ruan, what would it have done?  i will search google :)
[09:35] <ruan> Guest86223: you can package it with ubuntu
[09:35] <ikonia> Guest86223: plus, that's not kernel complilation, that's just creating a meta package
[09:35] <ruan> Guest86223: not sure about the kernel.
[09:35] <Guest86223> ikonia: but is there any chance to do it?
[09:35] <meera> tanks
[09:35] <MK`> Is it possible for me to create a swap file to supplement an existing swap partition if I add more ram?
[09:35] <MK`> and have ubuntu use both
[09:35] <ruan> Karen_m: it would've installed sun java, adobe flash, and other stuff
[09:35] <Guest86223> ruan: how give me the appropriate way?
[09:35] <ikonia> Guest86223: no, the kernel has no interest in vlc or awareness of it, you can however make a meta package
[09:35] <Karen_m> ruan, oh neat.. darn that package would have been nice..
[09:35] <rodhash> ikonia: How could I do that with apt-get or aptitude instead of the graphical package manager?
[09:35] <ikonia> Guest86223: a meta package is just a package that installs multiple subpackages
[09:35] <Guest86223> ikonia: how i can make it
[09:35] <ruan> !restricted
[09:36] <nunuyabiz> meera grub is a boot loader
[09:36] <ruan> hmm
[09:36] <Guest86223> ok
[09:36] <Guest86223> ikonia: ok
[09:36] <benzaldehyde> nunuyabiz: I only just recently started to 'boon too' am i to understand that the previous mirrored the recent such as 10.04>10.10>11.04>11.10 therefore 11.10 ought to be the new LTS?
[09:36] <ikonia> Guest86223: you need to read up on how to make ubuntu packages, however I would strongly advise you not to do this
[09:36] <ruan> !remaster
[09:36] <Karen_m> ruan, let me ask you this.. i have "openjdk-6-jre" installed, and i tried to remove it in favor of installing the sun version but my 'freemind' depends on it.  Any idea how I do this?   swap one with the other?
[09:36] <Guest86223> ikonia: tell me the way of making it
[09:36] <ikonia> rodhash: same way as with the gui, add/remove the package names you want
[09:36] <ikonia> Guest86223: it's quite complex, you need to research
[09:36] <ruan> Karen_m: you don't need to remove it before using sun java.
[09:36] <Guest86223> ikonia:y? wats d reason behind it for not doing it?
[09:36] <ruan> Karen_m: i'm running sun java and openjdk fine
[09:37] <nunuyabiz> benzaldehyde no 12.04 will be the next LTS
[09:37] <Karen_m> idea says openjdk is terrible, that's why I wanted to get rid of it.  Ok i will install the sun version...
[09:37] <ruan> Karen_m: maybe it's ubuntu-restricted-extras
[09:37] <ikonia> Guest86223: because they are not associated technologies, and the kernel packages should be updated by canonical, not you, which can cause a conflict
[09:37] <DND> hi guys how can i increase my cpu usage for testing?
[09:37] <Guest86223> ikonia: so there none other way to add any of the package with the kernel
[09:37] <Karen_m> do I use that... update-alternatives --config java  to enable sun over openjdk?
[09:37] <rodhash> ikonia: look:
[09:37] <rodhash> rodhash@rod-t400:~$ dpkg -l | grep gnome | wc -l
[09:37] <rodhash> 111
[09:37] <rodhash> There're a lot of packages from gnome2 installed.. Should I install all of them again if I decide to go back to gnome2?
[09:37] <FloodBot1> rodhash: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:37] <ikonia> rodhash: yes
[09:38] <benzaldehyde> nunuyabiz: seems inconsistant
[09:38] <ikonia> rodhash: however there is a metapacakge called "ubuntu-desktop" which will install the ubuntu desktop, which includes gnome2
[09:38] <ruan> Guest86223: you can add preinstalled packages with !remaster
[09:38] <ruan> !remaster | Guest86223
[09:39] <nunuyabiz> benzaldehyde nope 2 year..... like you said april of 2010 to april of 2012
[09:39] <ruan> Karen_m: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[09:39] <MK`> Is it possible for me to create a swap file to supplement an existing swap partition if I add more ram, and have ubuntu use both?
[09:39] <saini> where is package manager
[09:39] <Guest86223> ruan : u mean to say like redhat installation dvd we can cutomize the ubuntu cd with the packages
[09:39] <ikonia> MK`: sure is
[09:39] <MK`> ok :)
[09:39] <ikonia> saini: system->administrations->software
[09:39] <ruan> Guest86223: well, the link explains it
[09:40] <nunuyabiz> MK how much ram do you have now
[09:40] <rodhash> ikonia: wow, that's big work to do then.. :)
[09:40] <MK`> 1.5GB on the PC I am working with
[09:40] <rodhash> ikonia: 111 packages
[09:40] <MK`> the HD is only 15GB
[09:40] <Guest86223> ruan : ok thnx buddy
[09:40] <kth> hi - is there anyone who has some trouble in using "man" ? actually my apt says i've already installed man-db but also i should install man-db to be able to call "man" ? whats wrong there?
[09:40] <nunuyabiz> MK ram is usually so big that swap is not necessarily needed these days
[09:40] <ruan> kth: check your dependancies
[09:41] <MK`> and, it's a business PC. No games more intensive than tetris, limited video
[09:41] <nunuyabiz> MK if you do a 2 GIb swap you're pretty much set for life
[09:41] <MK`> most intensive program on it is probably libreoffice
[09:41] <kth> ruan: ? how should i do this? - executable "man" should be in "man-db" included or not?
[09:42] <ruan> kth: it should
[09:42] <ruan> kth: type "whereis man"
[09:42] <benzaldehyde> nunuyabiz: i am often severely confused. however, April 28th marks my one year non-smoker anniversary. so it is kinda cool because as you may know all ready 11.04 goes 'stable'
[09:42] <nunuyabiz> kth are you saying that you do man commands and they don't work?
[09:43] <kth> ruan: it gives me : man: /usr/src/blcr-0.8.2/man /usr/bin/man /usr/local/man /usr/share/man /usr/share/man/man7/man.7.gz /usr/share/man/man1/man.1.gz - yes
[09:43] <benzaldehyde> nunuyabiz: . . .  goes stable on that day
[09:44] <kth> ruan: also the man-db version seems to be correct - dpkg -l man-db gives me "ii  man-db             2.5.7-4"
[09:44] <nunuyabiz> benzaldehyde good thing it's not on April 1st
[09:44] <Guest86223> ruan: hey ruan is there any link which cud explain better that how to chnge the view and luk of ubuntu from each and every side
[09:44] <benzaldehyde> nunuyabiz: if it were that would be kinda cool, one of my grand fathers died or was born on that day, can't remember which
[09:44] <ruan> Guest86223: you can preinstall themes, or use kubuntu/lubuntu/xubuntu instead
[09:45] <Guest86223> ruan: no i wanna chnge it manually by just chnging the files,so is there any way
[09:46] <ruan> Guest86223: you can change the default themes or change default settings
[09:46] <Guest86223> ruan: ok so theres none othr way to chnge the luk and appearance
[09:46] <apena_> fola
[09:47] <apena_> hola
[09:47] <ruan> Guest86223: that's the limit of how you can really change themes.
[09:47] <ruan> Guest86223: you can change gnome's settings
[09:48] <shomon> how do I use ls to tell me the last few files modified in a directory tree?
[09:48] <shomon> or is there a better way than using ls?
[09:48] <Ycarene> Anyone know how well Gnome 3.0 works with oss?
[09:49] <kth> ruan: also update the mandb by invoking "mandb" as root is possible it says that there are > 9k entries - but it seems that the binary of man isn't there?
[09:52] <kth> ruan: i found the solution ... texlive has overwritten /usr/bin/man with a symbolic link oO
[09:52] <nunuyabiz> shomon maybe ls -time=word.......   check out the man page
[09:52] <A_I_> hello
[09:52] <A_I_> how can I know in debian/postinst if it is an new install or an update of my .deb ?
[09:52] <shomon> nunuyabiz,  hi, thanks - yeah I was trying to decipher that...
[09:52] <nunuyabiz> shomon or --sort=time
[09:54] <shomon> while I'm at it, ubuntu 10.10 isn't doing very nice cut and pastes. I like unix style, where it automagically copies anything I highlight, and pastes with a middle mouse click, but for some reason this isn't working since upgrading from 10.04
[09:55] <shomon> now I have to ctrl-shift-v and menu->paste to do it... is there a setting to switch this behaviour? or is it per-app?
[09:55] <mator> hello
[09:55] <shomon> hi
[09:56] <mator> how do i manage ubuntu daemons, which is started via /etc/init/*.conf files ?
[09:56] <cutout> hi I want to link an html folder to apache /var/www. how can I do that?
[09:56] <nunuyabiz> shomon ls -ltr
[09:57] <shomon> thanks nunuyabiz that worked fine!
[09:57] <nunuyabiz> shomon you might be able to customize hotkeys the way you like it
[09:59] <nunuyabiz> cutout what do you mean link it. I think what you are asking is that you just need to put the html in /var/www
[10:00] <nyuszika7h> Hi, I want to install MySQL, but I get this error:
[10:00] <nyuszika7h> E: Unable to locate package mysql
[10:00] <U8untu> hey i can`t install ubuntu from USB.. it says No DEFAULT or UI configuration directive found! ... and i have checked the MD5SUM and its the same..its OK..what`s the problem ?
[10:00] <ruan> !lamp
[10:01] <koltroll> Hey guys. Just booted up my ubuntu computer that's running 10.04. I'd like to update to 11.04. Is this possible through the update manager? I only get 10.10 as a option.
[10:01] <nunuyabiz> nyuszika7h what method are you using to install
[10:01] <ruan> nyuszika7h: try mysql-server
[10:01] <LarsTo> hello
[10:01] <LarsTo> should i install debian or ubuntu
[10:02] <ruan> LarsTo: it's a user decision, but ubuntu is best for beginners
[10:02] <U8untu> hey i can`t install ubuntu from USB.. it says No DEFAULT or UI configuration directive found! ... and i have checked the MD5SUM and its the same..its OK..what`s the problem ?
[10:02] <LarsTo> ok
[10:02] <LarsTo> i am using linux since 3 years @ ruan ;)
[10:02] <nunuyabiz> koltroll you must update to 10.10 before you can update to 11.4
[10:03] <nunuyabiz> LarsTo go to the debian chanel to ask that
[10:03] <ruan> !debian | LarsTo
[10:03] <koltroll> nunuyabiz, hm ok. Then I haft to make a decision what's faster. Downloading 11.4 make a clean install or make upgrades in steps... =) Thanks
[10:03] <nunuyabiz> yep
[10:06] <biborn> shcherbak: r u still there?
[10:07] <nunuyabiz> this is like the calm after a storm
[10:08] <biborn> is there ny suport for linux mint?
[10:08] <DJones> biborn: I think mint support in is #linuxmint
[10:08] <DJones> !mint
[10:09] <gaurav_help> while updating my system its shows me duplicate list entry
[10:09] <gaurav_help> how i resolve this
[10:10] <nunuyabiz> not sure I understand duplicate list entry
[10:10] <nyuszika7h> It seems I've accidently deleted Windows instead of FreeDOS :/
[10:10] <llutz_> gaurav_help: check your sources.list(s) and remove the duplicate entry
[10:10] <nyuszika7h> On turning on my computer, I see Ubuntu, Ubuntu (recovery mode), two memtests and FreeDOS.
[10:11] <gaurav_help> how i find the duplicate entry . and where is the list
[10:11] <gaurav_help> llutz, help me
[10:11] <dagon666> gaurav_help: /etc/apt
[10:11] <llutz_> gaurav_help: /etc/apt/sources.list(.d/*)
[10:11] <ExxonValdeez> hi all
[10:12] <nunuyabiz> nyuszika7h do you have a dual boot on your hard drive?
[10:12] <ExxonValdeez> does anyone know how to change empathy shortcuts?
[10:12] <ExxonValdeez> i know you can do it
[10:13] <ExxonValdeez> by pressing some keys and editing the shortcut in the menu
[10:13] <ExxonValdeez> just don't remember how
[10:13] <ExxonValdeez> and google is not turning anything up
[10:13] <gaurav_help> llutz, i cont't find any duplicate entry all list shows me first main then source code
[10:15] <gaurav_help> llutz, i cont't find any duplicate entry
[10:16] <nunuyabiz> gaurav_help what are you using to look at the file?
[10:16] <divya> bunty
[10:16] <llutz_> gaurav_help: if apt-complains about it,  theres one (most likely). look again, carefully
[10:16] <gaurav_help> error comes to me "Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ maverick/partner i386 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_ubuntu_dists_maverick_partner_binary-i386_Packages"
[10:16] <adnan> hello
[10:17] <Guest86223> is there anyone who is presently working for canonical?
[10:17] <divya> bunty  i have problem in installing canon mp250driver help me
[10:17] <divya> please
[10:17] <erUSUL> gaurav_help: check also files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ directory not just /etc/apt/sources.list file
[10:17] <gaurav_help> llutz, i list the error what i find and what i have 2 remove
[10:17] <Moopz> Hey. My PDFs load unusually slow. Every time I scroll to a new page it takes 5 seconds to load. Using Okular. Anyone have any clue why this is?
[10:18] <divya> gaurav_help i have problem installing canon mp250
[10:18] <divya> gaurav_help please help me
[10:19] <Chr|s> Moopz: could be memory, could be your graphics card
[10:19] <Chr|s> divya: did you enable your graphics driver?
[10:19] <gaurav_help> divya, see my personal note
[10:19] <divya> gaurav_help  where
[10:20] <gaurav_help> left side of ur pane of this xchat
[10:20] <gaurav_help> see just below #ubuntu
[10:20] <Moopz> Chr|s, I set Okular to aggressive memory usage, and I have 4GB ram so it's not that. I do use the proprietary FGLRX drivers for my ATI card though.
[10:21] <ohsix> Moopz: it could be that
[10:21] <Chr|s> Moopz: did you set it to aggressive before or after this problem
[10:21] <ohsix> Moopz: generating data "agressively" ahead of time, takes time
[10:22] <tester> Hi i need an older version of wuftpd installed in my ubuntu system and I cant install it because the bison/yacc in the system seems incompatible.
[10:22] <tester> Please have a look at this http://paste.pocoo.org/show/367070/
[10:22] <Moopz> Chr|s, I set it to aggressive to counter the problem but it doesn't work.
[10:22] <ohsix> Moopz: you could also see if the same thing happens in evince
[10:23] <fisch246> anyway i can get help with virtualbox? if not, can i be pointed to a place that will help me?
[10:23] <ohsix> fisch246: #vbox, but fair warning, i do not know if its a user support channel personally
[10:23] <sipior> fisch246: depends a bit on the sort of problem you're having
[10:23] <Moopz> ohsix, same happens in the default Document Viewer
[10:24] <tester> Any hints on how i can install wuftpd 2.6.0 on my ubuntu 10.04?
[10:24] <ohsix> Moopz: sounds like a challenge! :]
[10:24] <fisch246> sipior: has to do with the screen running past the bottom of my monitor, when switching to fullscreen...
[10:24] <sipior> tester: you could of course build it yourself, bearing in mind the risks of running an older version of a network service.
[10:25] <ohsix> Moopz: do you get a flurry of disk activity when this happens?
[10:25] <Moopz> ohsix, checking 2 secs.
[10:25] <sipior> fisch246: the guest monitor resolution is the same as that of the host?
[10:26] <fisch246> sipior: no it's smaller
[10:26] <tester> sipior, yes i am aware of it and am trying to build it on my own. However the make fails. Please see http://paste.pocoo.org/show/367070/
[10:26] <skpl> can someone tell me where to find the package automake1.8?
[10:27] <Moopz> ohsix, no unusual disk activity, however it overtook one of my CPU threads entirely and used it 100%.
[10:27] <ohsix> skpl: do you need 1.8 and 1.8 only?
[10:27] <erUSUL> !find automake
[10:27] <sipior> tester: was there a configure line before that?
[10:27] <skpl> ohsix: yes
[10:27] <sipior> fisch246: what happens if they are set to be equal?
[10:27] <tester> sipior, i just did a "./configure"
[10:28] <fisch246> sipior: if it helps i'm testing arch... and using the command "vga=842" on a "1366x768" screen
[10:28] <sipior> tester: would be nice to see the output of that.
[10:28] <tester> sure, one sec
[10:29] <ohsix> Moopz: ok, can you install linux-tools; run sudo perf top in a terminal, then switch pages in the viewer & tell me the top few entries in the output of perf
[10:29] <tester> sipior, http://paste.pocoo.org/show/367073/
[10:29] <sipior> tester: could i also get you to pastebin the output of ./configure --help?
[10:30] <tester> sipior, sur
[10:30] <tester> sure*
[10:31] <Moopz> ohsix, System_call, copy_to_user, schedule
[10:31] <tester> sipior, http://paste.pocoo.org/show/367075/
[10:32] <ohsix> Moopz: hm interesting; thanks
[10:32] <kubanc> is the ubuntu 11.04 gonna have gnome 3?
[10:32] <erUSUL> kubanc: no
[10:32] <erUSUL> kubanc: no by default anyway
[10:33] <dyd> hi all
[10:33] <skpl> does anyoen know  where to find the package automake1.8?
[10:33] <G00053> so i upgraded from 10.10 to 11 b and had huge problems , right now have no bars on top or side..
[10:33] <ruan> skpl: look for a ppa
[10:33] <erUSUL> G00053: 11.04 uses no bars/panels afaik. ask in #ubuntu+1
[10:34] <erUSUL> !11.04 > G00053
[10:34] <kubanc> erUSUL, thank you for you answer
[10:34] <Moopz> ohsix, what also annoys me that even after loading a page, if you scroll away from it, its already thrown it out of memeory and have to reload it.
[10:34] <xro> Hi, i'm looking for an rss reader... I want one i get let on my gnome desktop "like a widget" and with good looks... have you an idea? a google gadget?
[10:34] <ThePunisher60> hello
[10:35] <sipior> tester: nothing looks terribly out of the ordinary. you *might* consider modifying the makefile to remove the "-y" switch from bison. might be that the file is not compliant with the posix variant.
[10:35] <skpl> ruan: how do i do that?
[10:35] <ohsix> Moopz: well i wouldn't say that; it sounds like the drawing part is the slow part
[10:35] <ThePunisher60> hello everybody
[10:35] <sipior> tester: best bet really is to contact the maintainers, although i suspect they'll just tell you to run the latest version :-)
[10:35] <skpl> ruan: would it hurt my installation to use a package from a previous version of ubuntu?
[10:35] <sipior> tester: mind if i ask why you need this specific version?
[10:35] <fisch246> ah found the issue >.<
[10:36] <ruan> skpl: is 1.8 the latest?
[10:36] <nyuszika7h> (: I never knew gedit supported syntax highlighting... Nice!
[10:36] <ruan> skpl: it shouldn't hurt, but if you remove the latest you may have dependancy issues
[10:36] <sipior> nyuszika7h: i don't think you can call yourself an editor these days if you don't :-)
[10:37]  * erUSUL notepad FTW
[10:37] <itali-chan> THE VP8 and ogv. look bad, you can not encode better?
[10:37] <itali-chan> *it
[10:38] <ohsix> Moopz: i'm thinking of a simple way to see what it is
[10:39] <xro> nobody use a rss reader on the gnome desktop?
[10:39] <ohsix> not me
[10:39] <ohsix> lifrea is the one i've heard of t hough
[10:39] <chenkai> I have one, but I don't use it.
[10:39] <erUSUL> xro: i use google reader in the browser
[10:40] <xro> erUSUL, that is a good solution... but i would like to have it on the desktop... instead of that i miss a lot of them...
[10:40] <ohsix> missing rss feeds is the best part if feeds
[10:40] <erUSUL> xro: lifearea? rssowl? research in the ubuntu software center
[10:41] <ohsix> overwhelming yourself so you ignore triviality
[10:41] <Moopz> ohsix, personally I have no clue what it could be.
[10:41] <ohsix> Moopz: its probably the way its drawing
[10:41] <xro> erUSUL, i saw thiese name.. but they are not integrate in the destop like a widget
[10:41] <ohsix> is it just one file or all files?
[10:42] <mithran1> Hi all is there a command like top for ifconfig
[10:42] <mithran1> ?
[10:42] <Moopz> ohsix, All files. Not sure how I can change the way it renders the files..?
[10:43] <seek> hello
[10:43] <sipior> mithran1: ntop, if i understand your question correctly
[10:43] <ohsix> Moopz: you can't, but you can report the bug
[10:43] <sipior> mithran1: you're looking for a top-like network usage application?
[10:43] <Moopz> ohsix, but do we actually know what's causing it?
[10:43] <seek> sssssssss
[10:44] <ohsix> Moopz: i'm thinking of a way  to check
[10:44] <giannis> anyone know how to solve this http://pastebin.com/HrG7BEKu ??
[10:45] <d3vic3> seek: if you need help just ask :)
[10:45] <osse> I usually set up an SSH tunnel by running "ssh -fN hostname" but for some reason it doesn't work if I add that command as a startup application. Does anyone know how I can do this?
[10:45] <ohsix> Moopz: can you handle building a tool to record a drawing trace?
[10:46] <mithran1> mithran1: yes one of the computers we use has mulitiple network interfaces, and I want to get an updating list of the transmitted and received packets
[10:46] <mithran1> sorry sipior: i meant to send that to you
[10:46] <MK`> Strange question: the sole partition on this disk is /dev/sdb2. Is there any way for me to "rename" it to /dev/sdb1 without recreating the table?
[10:46] <vadviktor> mithran1, then you might wanna try Wireshark
[10:47] <Moopz> ohsix, no. While I consider myself fairly competent, that's well out of my reach.
[10:47] <ohsix> k, one moment
[10:47] <mithran1> vadviktor: but its too complicated, b4 i know it i have tons of packages, i want to monitor something on a long term basis, not to isolate an issue and analyse
[10:48] <vadviktor> mithran1, i see
[10:48] <mithran1> in specific i want to see the Tx and Rx of the interfaces
[10:48] <nyuszika7h> Hello! I have FreeDOS, Windows 7 and Ubuntu installed. On starting my computer, I can't select Win7. Could anyone help?
[10:48] <nyuszika7h> I installed Ubuntu after Win7.
[10:48] <nunuyabiz> MK sdb is usually a usb drive
[10:48] <MK`> it's a second harddrive
[10:48] <MK`> I want to rename it for ocd purposes
[10:48] <MK`> is this possible?
[10:49] <bigMike> helo
[10:49] <bigMike> hello, any good web app deployers here?
[10:49] <benzaldehyde> MK`: Obsessive Compulsive Disorder purposes? :D
[10:49] <iceroot> bigMike: wrong channel
[10:49] <MK`> yes
[10:49] <vadviktor> mithran1, would you like to log that data or just monitor the changes on a display?
[10:49] <bigMike> great
[10:49] <MK`> I want the first partition to be sdb1, not sdb2 :P
[10:49] <ohsix> Moopz: ok, install cairo-perf-utils
[10:49] <nunuyabiz> MK it may be possible, but probably not a configuration that ubuntu supplies
[10:49] <bigMike> what's the best approach to managing various apps, say most are based on ubuntu, mysql backed on each virtualised server
[10:50] <mithran1> Its a multipath, so I want to see which path it is running on, for a given policy algorithm over time :)
[10:50] <bigMike> but the apps are largely php driven joomla/drupal etc.
[10:50] <bigMike> some rails apps too.  Puppet or Landscape?
[10:51] <Moopz> ohsix, do I need a special repo? It's not in my standard ones.
[10:51] <mithran1> vadviktor: The policy determines which ethernet interfaces data runs on, i just want to see that policy in action...
[10:51] <ohsix> Moopz: hm let me look
[10:51] <nyuszika7h> ^^---Nobody can answer my question?
[10:51] <nunuyabiz> MK you could probably switch the hard drive cables, or reset the master slave switches on the drives one or the other
[10:51] <Moopz> nyuszika7h, what loader do you use?
[10:52] <ohsix> Moopz: ok, easy way to install it, use software center; otherwise enable the universe archive in software properties
[10:52] <nyuszika7h> Moopz: GRUB
[10:53] <MK`> No I mean... I have HDD /dev/sdb. I created 2 partitions on it, [/dev/sdb2][/dev/sdb1]. Then, I deleted /dev/sdb1, and merged it into /dev/sdb2. So now the only one has that name, and I want to rename it
[10:53] <nyuszika7h> It seems different than in older versions... it uses a console font.
[10:53] <vadviktor> mithran1, I don't think I can imagine right what you want, but I try to suggest one possibility:
[10:53] <Guest40566> Empathy 2.32.1 problem z połączeniem do serwera gg
[10:54] <HfX> How do I get color into ircii in ssh?
[10:54] <vadviktor> mithran1, I would use the watch command in combination of ifconfig and grep. watching the ifconfig data in some intervals and filter the lines with grep
[10:54] <Guest40566>  problem z połączeniem do serwera gg moze ktos pomoze
[10:54] <ohsix> MK`: that depends on the order of the partitions, if its not partition one i don't know theres a lot you can do besides break out a hex editor; you might get lucky if you read and rewrite the partitions with cfdisk or something
[10:55] <vadviktor> mithran1, specifically Tx and Rx, but I don't know how would I pipe the commands to filter that specific interface of yours
[10:55] <ohsix> HfX: you install a script that does it, ircII doesn't do _anything_ by default
[10:55] <Moopz> ohsix, can't find that software properties you're talking about.
[10:55] <MK`> it's the sole partition on the drive now, encompassing the entire thing
[10:56] <mithran1> vadviktor: ok let me try that
[10:56] <ohsix> Moopz: oh eh, it's software-properties-gtk, you can start it by itself or got to "software sources" somewhere in the synaptic menus
[10:56] <nyuszika7h> Moopz: So any ideas?
[10:57] <Moopz> nyuszika7h, get StartUp-manager
[10:58] <nyuszika7h> Moopz: where can I get it?
[10:58] <Moopz> ohsix, universe repo is enabled.
[10:58] <MK`> I'd need to hexedit the mbr?
[10:58] <Moopz> nyuszika7h, sudo apt-get install startupmanager
[10:59] <nunuyabiz> MK this is probably the closest you can get to doing what you want to do, but it would be tricky to to this on bootup
[10:59] <MK`> I have a livecd I can use to do it
[11:00] <artistik> im running pinguyos and my desktop froze. i can still move my mouse around but nothing else. i can access a terminal through ctrl-alt-f1. my question is how can i restore or restart my desktop enviroment without losing the documents i was working on?
[11:00] <nunuyabiz> MK you need to know where the kernel assigns the devices on bootup
[11:00] <sipior> MK`: if you're really brave, just delete the partition, and then recreate it *with exactly the same boundaries*
[11:01] <sipior> MK`: it probably goes without saying that you'll want to check on the status of your backups, etc.
[11:01] <MK`> it's an extended partition. If I deleted it it'd probably still delete the logical paritions inside
[11:01] <sipior> MK`: if the boundaries of the new partition are identical, i don't see the problem.
[11:01] <nunuyabiz> MK do you want to save what is on the partition?
[11:02] <MK`> it's a fresh install of ubuntu, so, no
[11:02] <zepherin> firefox runs slow on my laptop
[11:03] <nunuyabiz> just reinstall the more you do it the more you learn. if you do it again you will know ubuntu that much more
[11:03] <MK`> so if the entire drive were deleted I wouldn't lose anything. I just want to do something faster than reinstalling the OS
[11:03] <MK`> heh
[11:03] <MK`> well, I will learn by editing the MBR X)
[11:03] <ThePunisher60> hello
[11:03] <nunuyabiz> you are not going to find anything faster than reinstalling
[11:03] <MK`> and if that messes up the drive, I'll learn to/be too afraid to try that again
[11:03] <ThePunisher60> i'm new with ubuntu
[11:03] <MK`> heh
[11:04] <nunuyabiz> that will take you much longer
[11:04] <ThePunisher60> what can yu advice me for beginnig
[11:04] <bigmahat1a> hello. I added the text " noapic" to the file /etc/default/grub, in the line "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=". But, running update-grub, it says "noapic: not found". What to do?
[11:04] <ThePunisher60> anyone ??
[11:05] <MK`> what is a good hex editor? ThePunisher join #ubuntu-beginner
[11:05] <MK`> or #ubuntu-beginners
[11:05] <MK`> one of those 2
[11:05] <benzaldehyde> ThePunisher60: with what?
[11:05] <ohsix> MK`: the hex editor was not a serious suggestion
[11:05] <MK`> haha
[11:05] <MK`> I just need to change a 2 to a 1 :P
[11:05] <ThePunisher60> thnx mk
[11:05] <ohsix> MK`: why do you need it to be sdb1? you should be using uuids not bare devices
[11:05] <tiox> Hai, n00b here to make fun of.
[11:06] <ThePunisher60> benzaldehyde 'm using backtrack 4
[11:06] <MK`> I have OCD :(
[11:06] <tiox> But seriously, I am a n00b when it comes to rebuilding packages and making programs from source.
[11:06] <benzaldehyde> ThePunisher60: oh I see, testing your network?
[11:06] <ohsix> ThePunisher60: you'll have to go to their channel for support, it's not supported here
[11:06] <nunuyabiz> do a dd if /dev/zero of /dev/sda  count???? bs??? and start over
[11:06] <ThePunisher60> ah ok
[11:06] <tiox> I was told in a readme to get a 32-bit file and have it blt for my 64-bit system. How can I rebuild it for 64-bit?
[11:06] <ThePunisher60> yes benza
[11:07] <del_diablo> I have a trust tablet, how do I get it working with Ubuntu?
[11:07] <tiox> built*
[11:07]  * tiox smacks his keyboard
[11:07] <artistik> would someone help me with my earlier ?
[11:08] <artistik>  how can i restore or restart my desktop enviroment without losing the documents i was working on
[11:08] <Moopz> ohsix, I think I'll just have to live with it for now. Thought there might have been a quick fix but doesn't seem like there is.
[11:08] <Moopz> ohsix, thanks for your help.
[11:08] <sejo> can one revert to a base installation?
[11:08] <ThePunisher60> how cn i extract files n an encrypted rar file
[11:08] <MK`> I'll try repartitioning with the same boundaries.
[11:08] <ThePunisher60> ??
[11:08] <nunuyabiz> MK do a dd if /dev/zero of /dev/sda  count???? bs??? and start over..... that is soooo OCD!!
[11:09] <MK`> lol
[11:09] <ohsix> Moopz: well using a different driver will probably sidestep the problrm
[11:09] <benzaldehyde> ThePunisher60: you could do all that in Ubuntu and i believe the alternate iso is a live cd, if i am not misstaken
[11:09] <Moopz> ohsix, so I should try reinstalling my graphics driver?
[11:09] <ohsix> Moopz: i was more interested in giving you info to file a bug about it, so it gets fixed
[11:09] <edwinkcw> I have a laptop CQ42-170TX, I want to connect it with my external monitor BENQ 22". But in monitor resolution setting, the max res. is 1280x768 only, but my monitor can support 1920x1080
[11:09] <MK`> if my ocd were bad enough I'd name the drive hdb since it's an IDE drive :P
[11:09] <edwinkcw> How can I fix it?
[11:09] <ohsix> Moopz: not reinstalling, using another one besides fglrx
[11:09] <nunuyabiz> artistik what program is your documents in?
[11:10] <Moopz> ohsix, are there others?
[11:10] <ThePunisher60> well i instlled it on my hard disk
[11:10] <artistik> thank you- libre office
[11:10] <ThePunisher60> i'm no longer working with the live cd
[11:10] <h3r0_> hi friend i want to ask something... why my nagios server cannot send to our email? but it can send email alerts to gmail and yahoo?
[11:10] <ohsix> edwinkcw: you need to add the mode manually because the monitors edid information is incomplete/incorrect
[11:10] <h3r0_> our company email
[11:10] <nyuszika7h> Is Firefox 4 available for Ubuntu? I tried to do "sudo apt-get install firefox", but it says firefox is already the latest version.
[11:10] <benzaldehyde> ThePunisher60: one OS is as good as any other
[11:11] <edwinkcw> ohsix: may I know how can I add it? I didn't have much knowledge about this.
[11:11] <ohsix> h3r0_: that probably depends on how your company email servers are setup, you'll need to ask them
[11:11] <bboi> hi guys, im trying to run make menuconfig but im getting errors: invalid for RAR_REGISTER  and it says your display is too small to run Menuconfig how do i fix this
[11:11] <ThePunisher60> yes i know benza
[11:11] <del_diablo> nyuszika7h: http://askubuntu.com/questions/6339/how-do-i-install-firefox-4/6348#6348 take a peek
[11:11] <ThePunisher60> i just want to know how can i extract files from a rar encrypted archive
[11:12] <del_diablo> ThePunisher60: Install unrar?
[11:12] <h3r0_> oh... how can opmanager in windows can send to our company webmail
[11:12] <DJones> !ff4 | nyuszika7h
[11:12] <ThePunisher60> okay del_diablo
[11:12] <ThePunisher60> i find it in the package manager i guess ??
[11:12] <Moopz> ohsix, anyway, thanks for your help.
[11:12] <del_diablo> ThePunisher60: Yupp
[11:12] <ThePunisher60> okay
[11:13] <artistik> i have a terminal open by ctrl-alt-f1, just not sure how to restart or restore the desktop enviroment
[11:13] <ohsix> edwinkcw: i can't walk you through it, but i can tell you you use "cvt" and xrandr --newmode and then --addmode with its output
[11:13] <nunuyabiz> artistik what program are the documents in that you want to save?
[11:14] <artistik> libreoffice
[11:14] <edwinkcw> ohsix: thanks, because in the old day, there is a x11.conf
[11:14] <ohsix> yep
[11:14] <artistik> im having a hard time reading your name otherwise id type it
[11:14] <ohsix> edwinkcw: are you using nvidias binary driver?
[11:14] <nunuyabiz> artistic if you shut down your box hard kill libreoffice will restore your documnets
[11:15] <h3r0_> ohsix: thank you for replying
[11:15] <edwinkcw> ohsix: I am using Radeon propietary
[11:15] <ohsix> erh
[11:15] <osama> cv
[11:15] <artistik> what about sys-ctrl-alt-r-e-i-u-s-b
[11:15] <artistik> will that work
[11:16] <jwtiyar> how to get gnome 3 ?
[11:16] <nunuyabiz> artistic try it
[11:16] <artistik> i dont want to lose all my homework though. will it save it?
[11:16] <achillion> Has anyone had any experience running two distributions sharing one home directory? I suspect configuration files will be a mess but it could work, right?
[11:16] <nunuyabiz> artistic I used to know a way, but it didn't always work anyways
[11:16] <ohsix> artistik: does libreoffice save backups periodically? i think it does
[11:16] <ikonia> achillion: it will work the more important issue is how grub will work, in that with ubuntu 10.10 or later, it won't work well
[11:17] <nunuyabiz> artistik libreoffice will definitely save it, and from now on......ALWAYS BACKUP
[11:17] <ohsix> artistik: so if its been like 15 minutes you can just restart with shutdown -r now; then look for the backups
[11:17] <MK`> damn
[11:17] <MK`> I configured gparted to recreate the partitions exactly
[11:17] <achillion> ikonia: How would grub be affected? I'm on 10.04 currently; is there something special about grub on 10.10?
[11:17] <MK`> and when I ran the operation it did it the wrong way for some reason
[11:17] <ohsix> artistik: you can look in the dir where your file is in the shell & check if theres a backup there to be safe
[11:17] <nunuyabiz> achillion I do it all the time
[11:17] <MK`> so I need to reinstall P
[11:17] <benzaldehyde> ThePunisher60: there are two unrar and unrar-free dunno which is pertinent, i suppose one could have both
[11:17] <ikonia> achillion: yes, grub2 doesn't have it's config file in a shared location for the 2 distros
[11:18] <ikonia> achillion: 10.04 will also be a problem
[11:18] <benzaldehyde> ThePunisher60: and package rar to create rar
[11:18] <achillion> nunuyabiz: good to know :)
[11:18] <ThePunisher60> okay
[11:18] <artistik> well i was just working on a document and the desktop just froze, so how could i save a backup of something i was working on
[11:18] <ohsix> MK`: gparted does a lot more than edit partitions, that is almost secondary to the rest, i suggested cfdisk for a reason D:
[11:18] <ThePunisher60> but i didn't find any on package manager
[11:18] <MK`> Ah, i see
[11:18] <benzaldehyde> ThePunisher60: add some repositories to sources.list
[11:19] <MK`> well, there goes my entire ubuntu installation :P
[11:19] <achillion> ikonia: I'm sure there's a way around that. nunuyabiz: how do you handle grub?
[11:19] <artistik> but its been more than 15min so if it periodically saves its self then i should be alright
[11:19] <ThePunisher60> what ??
[11:19] <jwtiyar> how to get gnome 3 ?
[11:19] <ohsix> MK`: but even then i didn't know if it would reorder them i was being dismissive and suggesting you merely ignore it D:
[11:19] <ikonia> achillion try it, there is not
[11:19] <benzaldehyde> ThePunisher60: debian for sure, un# some of the restricted if there are resticated urls in the sources.list
[11:19] <hot_wheelz> can somone pls confirm if the us k42f-vx312v is fully support under 10.10 i am trying to establish this for a friend...Thx
[11:19] <nunuyabiz> ikonia I havn't done it with the latest grub
[11:20] <ohsix> ThePunisher60: you should really go to the backtrack channel
[11:20] <ikonia> nunuyabiz: I know, it won't work well
[11:20] <ThePunisher60> well benza i'm not very good with ubuntu so i don't really know that
[11:20] <benzaldehyde> ThePunisher60: whereis apt
[11:20] <ohsix> edwinkcw: re: ati, i do not know if it does xrandr, if it doesn't you'll need to use xorg.conf or their control panel
[11:20] <ThePunisher60> ohsix i'm asking general ubuntu question
[11:20] <benzaldehyde> ThePunisher60: find it then scoot boot'n'boogie
[11:21] <mang0> guys, can you run AVG on ubuntu 10.10?
[11:21] <artistik> ohsix: from a shell how would i save a copy of what i was working on
[11:21] <ohsix> ThePunisher60: backtrack is modified in a number of ways that the odds on asking a general question still has a bt perspective
[11:21] <ThePunisher60> well i'll drop it for the moment and after i'll llok for it again
[11:21] <ikonia> mang0: you shouldn't need it
[11:21] <mang0> or is there another good free virus/malware moniter that you can use?
[11:21] <mang0> oh
[11:21] <ThePunisher60> thanx anyway benza
[11:21] <nunuyabiz> MK now you know.... you never suck sdb1 into sdb2 unless you'r okay with being stuck with sdb2   see you're learning
[11:21] <mang0> ikonia: why not?
[11:22] <ohsix> artistik: basically, you can't; thats why i suggest you look and see if its doing periodic backups
[11:22] <ikonia> mang0: virus' don't effect linux in the same way as windows, so most virus scanning is worthless
[11:22] <benzaldehyde> ThePunisher60: good luck to you
[11:22] <mang0> okay thanks
[11:22] <mang0> :)
[11:22] <ThePunisher60> ohsix can u give the bt4 channel link please
[11:22] <ThePunisher60> thnx benza
[11:22] <ohsix> !backtrack
[11:22] <ikonia> ThePunisher60: #bactrack-linux
[11:22] <ikonia> #backtrack-linux
[11:23] <ThePunisher60> thnx ikonia
[11:23] <ThePunisher60> good bye all
[11:23] <sunriver> Is anyone have a package of  "matlab for linux "?
[11:23] <ohsix> good luck
[11:23] <artistik> ohsix: oh in the logs? could you narrow my search down for me and give me a general area
[11:23] <ThePunisher60> thnx
[11:23] <MK`> yeah I am learning :D
[11:23] <MK`> ohsix it was a fresh installation, I had no files on it
[11:24] <nitso> sunriver, bc might help you ;)
[11:24] <sunriver> oh ,thanks
[11:25] <artistik> theres got to be a simpiler way to refresh my desktop- something like metacity restore, but that didnt work
[11:25] <nunuyabiz> artistik when you are forced to hard kill your box and you restart it, you will appreciate libreoffice that much more when it restarts and asks you if you want to restore the documents that you neglected to back up.
[11:25] <bigmahat1a> Could somebody suggest me a nice program for reducing power compsumption? Like for downclocking the CPU?
[11:26] <jwtiyar> how to get gnome 3 ?
[11:26] <nunuyabiz> I'm not trying to push you to hard kill your computer..... I'm just sayin
[11:26] <ohsix> MK`: oh well, then the simple solution is to wipe it out
[11:26] <MK`> yeah
[11:26] <MK`> I deleted the disk, am starting over now
[11:26] <ohsix> MK`: but its also prudent to start using uuids for volumes, as the names/numbers can be unstable berween boots
[11:26] <MK`> ok
[11:27] <ohsix> artistik: look in the same directory where the original files, look for one named <yourfile>.bak or <yourfile>~
[11:27] <nunuyabiz> MK dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb count=1024 bs=????
[11:28] <MK`> i don't know what dd does yet
[11:29] <nunuyabiz> artistic do you have access to a terminal?
[11:29] <MK`> !dd
[11:29] <nunuyabiz> MK you don't need to zero out the disk, it's just something that I like to do
[11:30] <[deXter]> MK`: copy data from/to a device at a low level, bit by bit.. amongst lot of other things, in this case, dd can be used to wipe a drive
[11:30] <ohsix> MK`: he's telling you of one way to clear the mbr
[11:30] <MK`> I nuked the disk before I installed Ubuntu
[11:30] <MK`> ah
[11:30] <MK`> ok
[11:30] <ohsix> (and a little bit past the mbr)
[11:31] <supraken> is there a table of contents for the man pages? or a list of all the man pages internally in ubuntu?
[11:31] <Panthera> hi there
[11:31] <ohsix> supraken: not really, but you can search aming the installed ones on your computer with "apropos"
[11:32] <ohsix> supraken: i think they're indexed in yelp too, or at least used to be :[
[11:32] <nunuyabiz> MK nuked? are you talkin dban?
[11:32] <Panthera> hi
[11:32] <Panthera> how can i host my own irc server ?
[11:33] <nunuyabiz> Panthera you sure can
[11:33] <iostream> Panthera: install an ircd
[11:33] <iostream> nunuyabiz: "how"
[11:33] <Panthera> ircd ?
[11:34] <MK`> some windows ap
[11:34] <iostream> irc daemon = irc server
[11:34] <iostream> Panthera: apt-cache search ircd
[11:34] <MK`> heh, I chose to not format, and it says "removing conflicting operating system files"
[11:34] <nunuyabiz> iostream run your own irc server
[11:34] <Panthera> Tanks
[11:34] <MK`> so maybe some files survived
[11:34] <iostream> TANKS!
[11:34] <iostream> beware of the tanks!
[11:34] <koltroll> I'm getting all crazy at the new menu - even tho I like it's look. Trying to move the icons around but 50% of the times it thinks I want to move the whole section of icons!
[11:34] <koltroll> gahh ^^
[11:35] <iostream> hi koltroll
[11:35] <edwinkcw> ohsix: thanks and I fixed my problem
[11:35] <iostream> that's because the object is a group of icons
[11:35] <ohsix> edwinkcw: good :]
[11:35] <LeanoX> i wonder where is position when use  apt-get install a program
[11:35] <skiwithpete> hi, in 10.04 is there a way to boot to command prompt?
[11:35] <Panthera> Wow 1544 users online
[11:35] <Panthera> this my first time on irc
[11:35] <nunuyabiz> MK yeah that removes all the addressing in the filesystem all the files are still there, but it's okay they will just be overwritten
[11:35] <LeanoX> in 10.10
[11:35] <skiwithpete> I've changed xinitrc and now I only get flickering
[11:35] <LeanoX> i wonder where is position when use  apt-get install a program in 10.10
[11:36] <MK`> ok
[11:36] <skiwithpete> can't even ctrl+alt + Fkeys
[11:36] <koltroll> iostream, heya! What do you use for coding ?
[11:36] <iostream> koltroll: nano, gedit
[11:36] <skiwithpete> just keeps flicking back
[11:36] <koltroll> iostream, ok :(
[11:36] <iostream> LeanoX: whereis
[11:36] <skiwithpete> is there a way to boot to command prompt?
[11:36] <iostream> koltroll: why?
[11:36] <iostream> skiwithpete: press CTRL+ALT+F1
[11:36] <karan> hello
[11:37] <skiwithpete> iostream, have done that - it just flicks back to failing workspace
[11:37] <karan> can any one help to me recompile the kernel with a new package integrated in it
[11:37] <iostream> skiwithpete: wonky.
[11:37] <LeanoX> iostream:yes ,where is ?
[11:37] <skiwithpete> eh?
[11:37] <iostream> LeanoX: no, whereis, it's acommand
[11:37] <LeanoX> i see  i try
[11:37] <iostream> a command
[11:37] <skiwithpete> iostream, can I get to command prompt via grub?
[11:37] <koltroll> iostream, why what? why I ask? Cause I want a nice coding app. vim/emacs/nano is not an alternative. And even though gedit is nice and all, it's just a simple texteditor. And eclipse is too much. I wan something in between. Gonna have a look at bluefish and see what that's all about.
[11:38] <iostream> koltroll: gedit is not just a simple text editor
[11:38] <skiwithpete> i know what I have to do, I just can't get to a prompt...
[11:38] <shomon> how do I go down a version from php 5.3.3 to 5.2.10 or whatever is newest?
[11:38] <iostream> play with the settings and you'll find a bunch of fancy stuff
[11:38] <shomon> on ubuntu 10.10?
[11:39] <koltroll> iostream, like some plugins, themes and "show line number" ? :)
[11:39] <LeanoX> iostream:thanks for your support .
[11:39] <MK`> this disk is a nice testbed anyway. it has like 33 bad sectors so I don't even know how long it's going to last
[11:39] <shomon> bluefish is a good in betweeny one... :)
[11:39] <iostream> LeanoX: np
[11:39] <iostream> koltroll: you don't need any third party plugins, no
[11:39] <skiwithpete> anyone?
[11:39] <iostream> koltroll: it's all in the software already
[11:39] <koltroll> The mission right now is to get my pc keyboard to act like it's a mac keyboard.
[11:40] <iostream> lol
[11:40] <nunuyabiz> koltroll I use bluefish only..... I love it   but it's a little more than just simple
[11:40] <skiwithpete> need a prompt, x keeps flashing because of failed xinitrc
[11:40] <benzaldehyde> shomon: if you want a different version the only way i know of to do it is to purge the package and install the one you want manually
[11:40] <koltroll> It's a pain working at a mac more or less all days and then switch back to a pc. So I'm thinking that if I can get the pc keyboard to act like a mac I'm all good.
[11:40] <iostream> that's not possible
[11:41] <iostream> install linux on your mac instead
[11:41] <koltroll> it -kinda- works now. But the "apple-key" is on alt-gr. I would've preferred if I could get it on the windows-icon instead. That would be ace.
[11:41] <shomon> benzaldehyde, that's fine I found a tutorial on randyfay.com/node/63
[11:41] <koltroll> Well of course it is possible? It's linux is it not?
[11:41] <shomon> lots of drupal folks have the same problem in 10.10 apparently
[11:41] <skiwithpete> here's how I'll solve it:  I'll put a liveCD in and boot to that - then I'll change xinitrc - unless there's a way I can boot to prompt...
[11:42] <koltroll> Right now I can do shift+altgr+8/9 to get {}
[11:42] <nunuyabiz> skiwithpete boot into recovery mode
[11:42] <koltroll> If I could just map alt-gr to the windows-button I'd be allt good :)
[11:42] <skiwithpete> how?
[11:42] <skiwithpete> nunuyabiz, how - 10.04
[11:43] <nunuyabiz> skiwithpete I don't remember but in previous versions you hit esc and you get the grub menu.... I'll google it just a moment
[11:44] <koltroll> when a window gets above the menu the menu goes away. How do I get it back without removing the window, and how can I set it up so that it doesn't go away ?
[11:45] <nunuyabiz> does someone remember how to get to the grub menu in 10.04...... in previous versions it was hit the esc key
[11:46] <skiwithpete> not anymore
[11:46] <DJones> nunuyabiz: Press & hold down left shift during boot
[11:47] <nunuyabiz> skiwithpete did you get that
[11:47] <bullgard4> Ubuntu installs by default an entry »gdm:x:119:« in /etc/group but without any operating system user. Why?
[11:48] <nunuyabiz> skiwithpete when you are in the grub menu, arrow down to the recovery mode and hit enter then make the proer selection. you may want to select drop down to root
[11:48] <skiwithpete> yep, seems to have done it
[11:48] <ohsix> bullgard4: files are owned by it, not having a user to access them is kind of beside the point
[11:48] <skiwithpete> how do you rena?
[11:48] <skiwithpete> sorry, how do you rename at prompt?
[11:49] <nunuyabiz> rename what?
[11:49] <txh> how do I set up to build for another kind of lixux while running another like ubuntu??
[11:50] <txh> any tips or links would be helpful
[11:50] <nunuyabiz> txh google remix
[11:51] <txh> search for remix?
[11:51] <nunuyabiz> yeah remix ubuntu or whatever distro you want to customize
[11:52] <ohsix> skiwithpete: "mv"
[11:52] <nunuyabiz> remix ubuntu or remix debian or whatever
[11:52] <Panthera> someone know when 11.04 will be out ?
[11:52] <DJones> !natty | Panthera
[11:52] <nunuyabiz> Pnathera in 4-11
[11:52] <Panthera> Oh only in the 28 =\
[11:53] <nunuyabiz> I think on the 28th
[11:53] <Panthera> and say can i keep the Gnome ?
[11:53] <gagware> a
[11:53] <Panthera> i dislike Unity
[11:53] <bullgard4> ohsix: You are writing a very complicated English. operating system groups are there to limit the access of files to certain operating system users, are they not?
[11:53] <skiwithpete> thanks nunuyabiz and ohsix
[11:53] <nunuyabiz> Panthera it will be gnome 3
[11:53] <ohsix> Panthera: grievance noted
[11:53] <koltroll> how the heck do I access settings for the menu ?
[11:54] <Panthera> it will be Unity interface they say
[11:54] <Panthera> i just hate it
[11:54] <ohsix> bullgard4: users and groups, they are separate & you can have sgid executables like you can suid ones
[11:54] <ohsix> Panthera: i meant to say, that's not really on topic, you could try #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:56] <nunuyabiz> Panthera unity will be default, but you can chose another
[11:56] <sobersabre> hi.
[11:56] <sobersabre> I have asked this before and don't remember getting an answer.
[11:56] <Panthera> i know that i can change it
[11:56] <sobersabre> assuming I have user1 with admin rights.
[11:56] <sobersabre> I want to use that user's data/settings for another user.
[11:56] <Panthera> and what about GNOME Shell ?
[11:57] <Panthera> i will be able to use it ?
[11:57] <sobersabre> I copy /home/user1 to /home/user2, and then replace all the appearances of 'user1' to 'user2'
[11:57] <skpl> jhbuild build
[11:57] <skpl> er.
[11:57] <DJones> Panthera: For questions/queries about Natty, the best channel to ask is #ubuntu+1 which is its support channel until its released
[11:57] <sobersabre> still, when logged in as user2 and clicking update manager I am getting prompt for the password of user1.
[11:57] <nunuyabiz> yes I believe you will be able to use gnome shell
[11:57] <sobersabre> What do I need to change/update so I am asked for user2's password in that case ?
[11:58] <LjL> sobersabre: you have changed the owner and group for all files, yes?
[11:58] <sobersabre> yes.
[11:58] <Panthera> ok tanks
[11:58] <nunuyabiz> beware of tanks
[11:58] <sobersabre> LjL: the problem I think is that some things not in the user1's dir are getting changed. or maybe there are some databases in user2's files that still contain user1 references.
[11:59] <LjL> sobersabre: well i don't know, but maybe it's something in gconf, so why don't you try grepping for the old user name in ~/.gconf
[11:59] <sobersabre> I hoped somebody could here point me out where EXCEPT .gconf I can find these references.
[11:59] <sobersabre> LjL: I did grep there...
[12:00] <trungtruc> I need a help
[12:01] <trungtruc> I want to change DNS
[12:02] <adalal> hey
[12:02] <adalal> anyone here know how to refresh the gsettings for unity panel?
[12:02] <sobersabre> trungtruc: are you on a client machine and you want to make sure it uses a different dns server ?
[12:02] <trungtruc> yes, i am
[12:03] <ruan> adalal: ask in #ubuntu+1
[12:03] <trungtruc> I'm using Xubuntu server
[12:03] <adalal> ruan: thank...
[12:04] <cvam> In log file What is the log entry for deleting a file
[12:08] <cvam> I have removed or moved a file from original location.I want to recover it
[12:08] <LjL> i don't think file deletions are logged
[12:09] <cvam> LjL:I have removed or moved a file from original location.I want to recover it
[12:09] <aruns> can someone recommend a decent gaming mouse that works well in ubuntu ?
[12:09] <LjL> !recovere | cvam
[12:09] <LjL> !recover | cvam
[12:09] <ohsix> if it was in a package you can search for it with dpkg -S, or have debsums check all package files
[12:10] <cvam> LjL:I'm not sure that I've deleted. May be I've moved another location
[12:10] <ohsix> aruns: razer lachesis is my pet fav, i do not know about the status of tools to change the settings of the mice in linux though, i've never looked
[12:11] <LjL> cvam: well that's not logged either. if the actual file name hasn't changed, you can search for it using like "find / | grep filename"
[12:11] <yang2> Any idea how to use "ufw" firewall to redirect traffic from port 23 to port lets say 1000
[12:11] <ohsix> know your tools :S
[12:11] <yang2> i can only find manual for allow/deny rules
[12:11] <ohsix> yang2: i think it is only allow/deny
[12:11] <[4-tea-2]> Anyone else experiencing Liferea crashes (segfaults) on natty?
[12:12] <ruan> [4-tea-2]: you can ask in #ubuntu+1
[12:12] <cvam> LjL:Thank you,I've tried find command wrongly
[12:12] <[4-tea-2]> ruan: I was under the impression that natty was released?
[12:12] <nitso> yang2, did you try google? http://goo.gl/Thb16
[12:12] <ohsix> yang2: allow/deny/reject/log
[12:12] <ruan> !natty
[12:13] <DJones> [4-tea-2]: Not until 28th April, is just in beta until then
[12:13] <ruan> [4-tea-2]: yeah. april 28
[12:13] <[4-tea-2]> DJones, ruan: Ah, I see, thanks.
[12:13] <ohsix> yang2: you can probably use fragments of manual iptables commands in a manner where they won't be clobbered
[12:14] <nitso> !dapper
[12:14] <Memphizzz> Hi all, how do i access a connection in the terminal which was connected from Places->Connect to server?
[12:14] <jrib> Memphizzz: ~/.gvfs
[12:15] <ohsix> yang2: ooh theres a gem in the man page, check the man page for ufw-framework, it describes the hooks; ie. where you can put those custom commands
[12:15] <ohsix> !oneiric
[12:15] <Memphizzz> jrib, thanks!
[12:15] <PoNuts2> shall ubuntu go over to postgre as default DB?
[12:16] <ohsix> PoNuts2: there is no default db
[12:16] <jermy_> to test those certificates in linux
[12:16] <PoNuts2> doh (exp. from homer simpsson) ;)
[12:16] <ohsix> PoNuts2: and its down to what the package says it can use / suggests, not "ubuntu"
[12:16] <jermy_> oh !sorry
[12:16] <yang2> ok
[12:17] <aruns> ohsix, thanks
[12:18] <jermy_> How to set ip ubuntu
[12:18] <nyuszika7h> Hi, is it possible to override Ubuntu's titlebar with FF4's custom one?
[12:19] <GOMI> dont know why but my screen flickers ?!? first time is doing this
[12:19] <xorxorxorxorxor> what do you mean, title bar
[12:19] <atlef> jermy_: right-click the network icon in your taskbar and choose edit connections
[12:19] <trungtruc> how to install dns ubuntu ?
[12:19] <ohsix> nyuszika7h: ff should be telling the wm it doesn't want decorations, something in about:config probably controls that
[12:22] <kurrata> i did something and my text in eclipse got greyish background and everything in outline view has such diognal line over it. whats going on? http://postimage.org/image/1hf9myqn8/
[12:25] <bilal03> hello there
[12:25] <erUSUL> trungtruc: a dns server?
[12:25] <trungtruc> yes
[12:26] <bilal03> i've got a problem with my package manager i think
[12:26] <bilal03> anybody for help?
[12:27] <benzaldehyde> bilal03: i like help
[12:27] <benzaldehyde> bilal03: sometimes i --help the atm at the bank but it just hisses at me
[12:27] <phoque_uni> hey
[12:27] <erUSUL> !details | bilal03
[12:27] <phoque_uni> so Gnome 3 won't appear in Ubuntu?
[12:27] <bilal03> i got this error when i  want to install something via terminal
[12:27] <erUSUL> phoque_uni: no
[12:28] <phoque_uni> is there a way to add another source to apt so I can install it myself?
[12:28] <bilal03> bilal@gujjar-203:~$ sudo apt-get install docky
[12:28] <bilal03> Reading package lists... Error!
[12:28] <bilal03> E: Encountered a section with no Package: header
[12:28] <bilal03> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/ci.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_maverick_restricted_binary-i386_Packages
[12:28] <bilal03> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[12:28] <FloodBot1> bilal03: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:28] <bilal03> bilal@gujjar-203:~$ ^C
[12:28] <erUSUL> phoque_uni: it may be a ppa with it in the future... ask in #ubuntu+1
[12:28] <benzaldehyde> bilal03: dude pastebin
[12:28] <DJones> phoque_uni: I believe there is a ppa for it
[12:29] <bilal03> Reading package lists... Error!
[12:29] <bilal03> E: Encountered a section with no Package: header
[12:29] <bilal03> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/ci.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_maverick_restricted_binary-i386_Packages
[12:29] <phoque_uni> ah, right
[12:29] <bilal03> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[12:29] <phoque_uni> I read about PPAs somewhere
[12:29] <phoque_uni> I'll try that, thanks
[12:29] <phoque_uni> oh and Firefox 4? :-d
[12:29] <phoque_uni> :-D
[12:30] <DJones> phoque_uni: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/04/gnome-3-released-to-be-available-for-ubuntu-11-04-via-ppa/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+d0od+(Omg!+Ubuntu!)
[12:30] <FloodBot1> phoque_uni: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:30] <nyuszika7h> !ff4 | phoque_uni
[12:30] <erUSUL> !ff4 > phoque_uni
[12:30] <cvam> the output of ls command contains "Find Command Tutorial" ,But rm command on this directory fails
[12:30] <nyuszika7h> erUSUL: Nice, I didn't know it supports pms.
[12:30] <nyuszika7h> s/it/the bot/
[12:30] <erUSUL> cvam: rm -r is needed for dirs
[12:30] <phoque_uni> cheers, DJones, nyuszika7h and erUSUL!
[12:30] <cvam> erUSUL:Thank s
[12:31] <erUSUL> !cli > cvam
[12:31] <benzaldehyde> bilal03: that is weird
[12:31] <nyuszika7h> !ff4 > nyuszika7h
[12:31] <erUSUL> cvam: no problem
[12:31] <bilal03> 1
[12:31] <bilal03> 2
[12:31] <bilal03> 3
[12:31] <bilal03> 4
[12:31] <bilal03> 5
[12:31] <bilal03> 	
[12:31] <FloodBot1> bilal03: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:32] <benzaldehyde> bilal03: your partition might be filled
[12:32] <benzaldehyde> bilal03: one of them
[12:33] <bilal03> i cannot access ubuntu software center as well
[12:34] <bilal03> synaptic manager gives the same error while opening
[12:34] <r4y> hello
[12:34] <bilal03> no,, there is a lot of space available
[12:34] <phoque_uni> hmm... I've added ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable to my package sources but Synaptic won't show any packages from there
[12:34] <Barami> Hello :)
[12:34] <Barami> I have a question about unity.
[12:34] <r4y> hello
[12:35] <erUSUL> bilal03: try this 8 be carefull do nmot misspell ) « sudo cp -i /var/lib/dpkg/status-old /var/lib/dpkg/status »
[12:35] <tjiggi_fo> !ask | r4y Barami
[12:35] <maxpn> how to install pyzmq-2.1.4 from launchpad.net?
[12:35] <Barami> In unity, How can i launch new window by left side bar ?
 it asks about overwrite
[12:35] <erUSUL> bilal03: say yes
[12:36] <erUSUL> bilal03: then « sudo dpkg --configure -a  »
[12:36] <bilal03> it done
[12:36] <kurrata> i made 1 files inactive somehow in eclipse, anyone knows how i can make it active again?
 completed
[12:37] <benzaldehyde> bilal03: try this sudo cp /var/lib/apt/lists/* /home | sudo rm -vf /var/lib/apt/lists/*
[12:37] <nyuszika7h> ohsix: browser.tabs.drawInTitlebar is set to true
[12:37] <r4y> I am on a live disc of 10.04, I used Disk Utility to check this hard drive and it said it was clean but also says over on the right that Disk has a few bad sectors with a green dot next to it
 No command 'try' found, did you mean:
[12:38] <bilal03>  Command 'tty' from package 'coreutils' (main)
[12:38] <bilal03>  Command 'tr' from package 'coreutils' (main)
[12:38] <bilal03>  Command 'trn' from package 'trn' (multiverse)
[12:38] <bilal03>  Command 'trn' from package 'trn4' (multiverse)
[12:38] <bilal03>  Command 'trs' from package 'konwert' (main)
[12:38] <FloodBot1> bilal03: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:38] <Barami> If Aleady running terminal, How can run a terminal twice by side bar?
[12:38] <phoque_uni> what is wrong with him
[12:39] <atlef> Barami: try middle click on mouse
 it do it
 i do it
[12:39] <Barami> atlef, aleady clicked..
[12:40] <phoque_uni> bilal03, jesus, stop flooding!
[12:40] <Barami> but event not happened..
[12:40] <Barami> I'm using 10.10 maverick with unity.
[12:40] <Barami> it is mutter based unity
[12:41] <Barami> 0.2.46
[12:43] <pc-moon> hello
[12:43] <obscurant1st> i have connected to my system using ssh. Now I have to copy a file from the client to the server to which i logged in. How can i do that?
[12:43] <pc-moon> i wanna know how run python cgi ? i have ubuntu gnome
[12:44] <PoNuts2> chroot is it just to add an extra / in passwd?
[12:45] <susundberg> if you mean chroot as command its something different than passwd file: http://linux.die.net/man/2/chroot
[12:45] <Barami> Hm...
[12:46] <Hugo> Hi, does anyone know how I can manually get my Wireless driver in Ubuntu without having to go on the Internet? I've tried using ethernet but it won't work. (Ubuntu 11.04 Beta)
[12:46] <rob_p> obscurant1st: sftp user@host  <--- After that, it's very similar to FTP command syntax
[12:46] <jussi> I have a raid disk, and I am now in the live cd. How do I mount the disk?
[12:46] <obscurant1st> rob_p, oh ok thanks!
[12:47] <susundberg> jussi: with standard mount command, but you might need to get some raid-tools / drivers -- could you specify your problem?
[12:47] <Barami> In unity 0.2.46 (official package of maverick), Does not support launch program by middle click on icon?
[12:47] <madoo> hi evry one there
[12:47] <susundberg> Hugo: Ether would be the simplest choise, any idea why it does not work?
[12:48] <jussi> susundberg: the raid drives didnt turn up in places, so Im wondering where to find them. they do appear in fdisk -l though.
[12:48] <rob_p> obscurant1st: Perhaps I should clarify... start a new terminal session and do, "sftp user@host" and once logged in, you will have a prompt at which you can put, get, list, etc.  Hope that helps.
[12:48] <susundberg> Hugo: other options are to download the needed packages on other machine and transfer them via some other medium, like usb stick
[12:48] <Hugo> susundberg: It worked before when I had a problem using the Internet on Ubuntu 10.10, I don't know why it doesn't seem to be working this time.
[12:48] <Fearless13> Is it possible with apt to download the .deb and all dependencies if possible?
[12:48] <Hugo> susundberg: How would I go about downloading the packages onto my Windows partition?
[12:49] <cutout> I want to link a folder to apache server, how can I do that?
[12:49] <benzaldehyde> Hugo: did you tell it to issue an ip through dhclient
[12:49] <obscurant1st> rob_p, the 1st reply was ok, i got it! :) thanks
[12:49] <rob_p> obscurant1st: cool, just makin' sure... :)
[12:49] <susundberg> jussi: 'mount /dev/my_raid_device_here /mnt/' should work
[12:49] <Hugo> benzaldehyde: No, not that I know of. It picked up the cable but wouldn't let me use the internet?
[12:49] <cutout> can anyone help me plz?
[12:49] <obscurant1st> rob_p, :)
[12:49] <susundberg> (though i guess usually one wants to use /mnt/my_raid_id/)
[12:50] <jussi> susundberg: hrm, do I use the first raid device or the second?
[12:50] <benzaldehyde> Hugo: connect the modem to your computer sudo ifconfig eth0 up then sudo dhclient eth0
[12:50] <susundberg> You should mount _partitions_ not devices
[12:50] <susundberg> like /dev/sda1 not /dev/sda
[12:51] <ohsix> susundberg: unless the device has no partition & is a raw volume
[12:51] <benzaldehyde> Hugo: if it does not connect try a different ethernet cable
[12:51] <Hugo> benzaldehyde: Thanks, I'll try that now although I will have to reboot, I may be back unless your solution fixes the problem, thanks!
[12:51] <dyd> anyone knows the solution to this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1712869
[12:51] <susundberg> ohsix: but surely you cannot mount raw volumes?
[12:51] <soreau> ! mount
[12:51] <cutout> html.setData(Constants.Elements.TYPE, Constants.Elements.COMBO_BOX);
[12:51] <cutout> I want to link a folder to apache server, how can I do that?
[12:52] <Fearless13> ikonia: you're my guy !
[12:52] <ohsix> susundberg: sure; theres no distinction between a block device and how you mount it, partitions just let you slice it up
[12:52] <ikonia> Fearless13: ?
[12:52] <Fearless13> ikonia: by downloading with apt, is it possible to get the .deb that it has downloaded?
[12:52] <jussi> susundberg: Is it going to break something if I mount the wrong one?
[12:52] <ikonia> it sticks it in the apt cache folder, you can also dell apt to download and not install, so it just downloads the package
[12:53] <ohsix> susundberg: you can have partitions on loob block devices too :]
[12:53] <Fearless13> :|
[12:54] <susundberg> jussi: no it will not. but writing on the mounted directory disk will make changes to original disk
[12:54] <susundberg> afaik mounting is safe -- though always backup your data
[12:54] <ohsix> susundberg: or partitions in partitions, but linux won't number them automatically, point is storage is storage, partitioning lets you break it up into sections, lvm lets you resize & combine sections
[12:54] <jussi> hrm
[12:54] <ohsix> susundberg: mounting is not safe if logs are replayed on mount
[12:55] <jussi> its giving me "mount: unkown filesystem type 'linux_raid_member'"
[12:55] <benzaldehyde> ohsix: couldn't one send the logs to /dev/null, 2>/dev/null ?
[12:55] <ohsix> jussi: md or lvm is supposed to be putting those together for you, why aren't they assembling?
[12:56] <jussi> ohsix: Ive no idea. Ive a broken system that I want to try repair from the live cd. but its a bit hard when the volumes dont mount.
[12:56] <ikonia> jussi: this isn't a fake raid device is it
[12:57] <Insecticide> hey
[12:57] <ohsix> jussi: mounting and assembly are separate phases, what kind of volume is it?
[12:57] <jussi> ikonia: its possible, Im not certain of the setup completely. is there a way to tell?
[12:57] <benzaldehyde> Insecticide: :)
[12:58] <Insecticide> wow a chat room that talks lol
[12:58] <ikonia> jussi: sure, is this a true server platform or a "PC" / desktop platform ?
[12:59] <Insecticide> Im runnin ubuntu 10.04 how dose 10.10 compair ?
[12:59] <jussi> ikonia: its pc based methinks
[12:59] <ohsix> Insecticide: you can run it from a livecd if you want to do comparisons
[12:59] <rsaidan> hi all, i'm trying to run add-apt-repository behind a proxy but it doesn't seem to work. i've added the http_proxy var to bashrc and configured the proxy in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/80proxy but still no joy. I saw some similar issues online with no solutions, does anyone have experience with this?
[13:00] <benzaldehyde> Insecticide: You are on a long-term support release
[13:00] <Insecticide> yeah i know but kinda wanted to get opions befor i burn a Iso
[13:00] <benzaldehyde> Insecticide: 10.10 is stable but not a LTS
[13:00] <ohsix> opinions are fickle things
[13:01] <ohsix> Insecticide: you can use usb-creator to put it on a usb drive too
[13:04] <adit> test message
[13:04] <arcsky> hello if i want to write anything in welcome message/ascii figure  to openssh where can i do it then ?
[13:04] <ohsix> arcsky: /etc/issue
[13:06] <benzaldehyde> arcsky: that reminds me i want to put a little ascii art into my boot sequence
[13:06] <benzaldehyde> :D
[13:06] <arcsky> ohsix: doesnt work
[13:07] <ohsix> arcsky: works for me
[13:07] <Insecticide> im lookin for better wine where do i go ?
[13:07] <ohsix> Insecticide: a sommelier
[13:08] <seravitae> hi guys, my 10.10 machine was working fine a few hours ago, then i let some packages update, now my pc won't boot. i get a purple 640x480 screen briefly, then, nothing. i don't even know where to start looking as to why this occured
[13:08] <seravitae> i'm currently booted off a usb ubuntu 10.10 live usb stick that i used to install. any ideas where to start looking?
[13:08] <wwwd> ohsix: I was thinking Norhtern CA
[13:08] <ohsix> seravitae: sounds like grub got FUBAR
[13:09] <seravitae> ohsix: nah im sure its getting past grub, the purple screen is def ubuntu loading, just before the 'good' framebuffer' loads
[13:09] <Gent> Does anyone know of Natty is gonna ship with gnome3?
[13:09] <coz_>  good day all
[13:09] <seravitae> but im happy to try anything. i need this box up really soon
[13:10] <ohsix> seravitae: then boot it without "quiet splash" and read the boot messages
[13:10] <seravitae> ok, ill try to do that - though, i dont get a grub menu so i'm not sure how to add the arguments
[13:10] <Gent> anyone at all?
[13:10] <c0nsense> Hello! i have an iPod Touch 2G, when i plug this on ubuntu 10.10 show this message: http://pastebin.com/5D1wiUa2
[13:10] <seravitae> it just loads instantly
[13:10] <Insecticide> na im talking wine for the os
[13:10] <Pici> Gent : Natty/11.04 is not yet released. Please join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion.
[13:11] <benzaldehyde> arcsky: http://patorjk.com/software/taag/
[13:11] <wwwd> I was messing around trying to useradd. When I log in to testuser I get: could not update ICEauthority file...then blank background. Can't remove user because tempuser is logged in. Anyone know how to log out user from virtual terminal or as sudo?
[13:13] <arcsky> benzaldehyde: thanks
[13:13] <ohsix> wwwd: you'll have to kill their session leader; but i think even if you do the greeter still says they are logged in (but if you try to log in as them it starts a new session)
[13:13] <arcsky>  /var/run/motd it was
[13:13] <c0nsense> any ideas?
[13:13] <arcsky> nah doesnt work neither
[13:13] <Srebrenica> i wanna ask somethin about gfortran
[13:14] <wwwd> What is the session leader. I killed Gnu...Oh shit now I forgot what it was
[13:14] <arcsky>  /etc/motd , /var/run/motd  /etc/issue /etc/issue.net
[13:14] <ohsix> arcsky: well thats shown on login, but not exactly what you asked
[13:14] <arcsky> doesnt work
[13:14] <ohsix> works for me
[13:15] <pitiplatch> can anyone name me a good video editor which is capable of .mkv?
[13:15] <x404x> I have a jfs raid6 volume , after a power failure it wont remount, I trying running repair and rebooting but it says the volume is missing, it seems to have no drives attached anymore when i look in diskutils, how to recover this ?
[13:16] <wwwd> ohsix: gnome-terminal
[13:17] <ohsix> wwwd: i'm thinking gnome-session
[13:17] <wwwd> Is it possible to do top so that it only looks at a specific users PID's?
[13:17] <sarjo1> 1
[13:17] <ohsix> wwwd: you can use htop or ps to look at processes as a tree and find the session leader
[13:18] <ohsix> wwwd: try pressing ? it tells you a buch of keys that do stuff
[13:18] <x404x> do i go to "expand array" and add the drives back there ? now it says partially assembled in diskutil
[13:19] <ohsix> x404x: if it can't find the drives it is unwise to mess with it until it can
[13:19] <birdthief> Hi
[13:19] <birdthief> I just upgraded to 11.04 Beta,
[13:19] <birdthief> and my trackpad no longer works
[13:19] <soreau> ! 11.04 | birdthief
[13:20] <ruan> birdthief: for natty support please go to #ubuntu+1
[13:20] <sipior> birdthief: congratulations! you're a beta tester! submit a bug report!
[13:20] <Srebrenica> is there anyone
[13:20] <Srebrenica> i wanna ask somethin about gfortran
[13:21] <sipior> Srebrenica: easiest if you ask your question directly
[13:21] <Srebrenica> yes u right
[13:22] <x404x> how to fix a "partially assembled" jfs volume ? It seems to have dropped all the drives out, they show up but are not linked to the array and I cant find a way to add them back, also I cannot run repair again
[13:23] <ohsix> x404x: does jfs do raid internally or is it mdadm/lvm?
[13:23] <x404x> mdadm
[13:23] <Srebrenica> i dowload gfortran and trying to compile my program but it doesnt work though it work with windows compilers
[13:24] <laura23_> hi folk! do you know if it is possible to install gnome 3 into ubuntu 11.04 beta?
[13:24] <Gucci> Can anyone help me create a custom menu entry here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Custom%20Menu%20Entries, I am running 10.4. I was here yesterday and got help and wast told to do this but I am having some trouble. Can anyone help me with this process of creating an xp menu option
[13:24] <Pici> laura23_ : Natty/11.04 is not yet released. Please join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion.
[13:24] <c0nsense> help!? http://pastebin.com/vVJ077DU
[13:24]  * syn-ack trips Pici
[13:24] <ohsix> x404x: well you can run mdadm from the console and ask it to be loud about what it discovers, might give you an idea about how to correct it
[13:25] <ohsix> what happened to just looking and trying
[13:25] <Gucci>  Can anyone help me create a custom menu entry here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Custom%20Menu%20Entries, I am running 10.4. I was here yesterday and got help and wast told to do this but I am having some trouble. Can anyone help me with this process of creating an xp menu option
[13:25] <wwwd> ohsix: I cilled session. Still tells me I'm loged in. Is it named session leader or session-leader?
[13:25] <ohsix> Gucci: it should be done for you automatically, os-prober searches for you
[13:26] <Gucci> ohsix: it cant find it but I have a windows partition
[13:26] <x404x> hm first i got bad superblock then i ran repair, it fixed it last time but now it remains "partially assembled" probably some kind of corruption due to power loss
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> Gucci: have you tried using os-prober?
[13:26] <Gucci> ohsix: http://imagebin.org/146958
[13:26] <x404x> is there a way to restore the jfs tables ? maybe i can add the drives manually in mdadm ?
[13:26] <g0rg0d> Hello
[13:26] <Gucci> ActionParsnip: http://imagebin.org/146958
[13:27] <Gucci> ActionParsnip: ive run update grub. But idk. How do I use os-prober?
[13:27] <Gucci> ActionParsnip: updating grub didnt do anything
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> Gucci: sudo apt-get -y install os-prober; clear; sudo os-prober; sudo update-grub
[13:27] <Drengur> Hello there. I have a problem that I am quite sure is x.org related. My mouse (and keyboard for that matter) seems to lock itself within the focused window, not being able to click anything outside of it. This would include the Gnome-bars, etc. I am using Ubuntu 10.10, Gnome (and Xfce4, it's the same there). I have tried different keyboards, different mice, the problem persists. Any ideas? (I have tried various fixes, but am willing t
[13:27] <Drengur> o try again under guidance)
[13:27] <ohsix> x404x: i have to admit it does not sound good
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> Gucci: if you just run update grub without doing anything extra, it will do nothing at all
[13:28] <ohsix> x404x: as long as the volume headers aren't damaged it should be able to assemble
[13:28] <Gucci> ActionParsnip: i will try this
[13:28] <ohsix> Drengur: what software does it get stuck in?
[13:29] <sipior> x404x: what does mdadm -D report?
[13:29] <Gucci> ActionParsnip: so whats the first thing i type into the terminal?
[13:29] <Drengur> ohsix: All kinds, it does not really matter what software. Same for xfce4 as Gnome
[13:29] <Gucci> ActionParsnip: sudo apt-get -y install os-prober?
[13:29] <wwwd> ohsix: Killing gnome-key...seems to have done the trick. Thanks!
[13:30] <Gucci> ActionParsnip: do i include the semicolons and all = sudo apt-get -y install os-prober; clear; sudo os-prober; sudo update-grub
[13:30] <ohsix> Drengur: ok, no specific examples? whats happening is a grab and apps do them all the time, but they're supposed to let go
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> Gucci: its all ONE command, just seperated by semicolons, copy it as ONE command and paste to the terminal
[13:30] <ohsix> wwwd: when all else fails kill random things :D
[13:30] <x404x> sipior it says device does not appear to be active
[13:31] <Gucci> ActionParsnip: k, thanks. didnt know you could copy to terminal lol
[13:31] <ohsix> os-prober should be there already, and you don't run it like that
[13:31] <sipior> x404x: can you assemble with -A?
[13:31] <Drengur> ohsix: I've lived with this since i installed 10.10. I am able to free the mouse by right clicking, bringing up the properties menu, and then clicking outside. The funny thing is that, for instance, if I click within Firefox, I only control the content of Firefox, not even the Title bar, I have to free myself yet again for that.
[13:31] <GOMI> just got logged off on its own ?!?
[13:31] <wwwd> ohsix: True enough. Any idea why I am not able to log into a new user once I create it?
[13:31] <x404x> what does -A do ?
[13:31] <Gucci> ActionParsnip: k entered it. it asked for password and is progressing
[13:31] <ohsix> Drengur: are you using compiz?
[13:32] <GOMI> + something strange with display flickering
[13:32] <x404x> do i need to enter all the devices ?
[13:32] <Drengur> ohsix: yes, but I have disabled all the bling
[13:32] <sipior> x404x: the software comes with a man page :-) ("Assemble")
[13:32] <ohsix> wwwd: did you give them a home directory?
[13:32] <Gucci> ActionParsnip: its done. Now what do I do?  open the program or something?
[13:32] <ohsix> Drengur: bling or not, theres a lot of plugins that do a lot of things, you might check there
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> Gucci: did you see windows mentioned?
[13:32] <Gucci> ActionParsnip: nv looks like it found stuff not windows i think though
[13:32] <Gucci> ActionParsnip: no
[13:33] <pmitros> I had a few questions: (1) When I plug in a new USB audio device, is there a way to figure out what it gets assigned to in /dev? dmesg doesn't tell me. (2) Is there any codec for mencoder that can encode in real-time (1280x800x30fps, ideally, but I can cut back)?
[13:33] <Gucci> ActionParsnip: Generating grub.cfg ...
[13:33] <Gucci> Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-30-generic
[13:33] <Gucci> Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-30-generic
[13:33] <Gucci> Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-28-generic
[13:33] <Gucci> Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-28-generic
[13:33] <Gucci> Found memtest86+ image: /boot/memtest86+.bin
[13:33] <Gucci> done
[13:33] <FloodBot1> Gucci: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> Gucci: bah, that's all I know of grub, os-prober often just finds the other OSes
[13:33] <Drengur> ohsix: should I install the advanced Compiz config-thing and play with that? (Does compiz run under xfce)
[13:33] <mithran> pmitros: sudo dmesg
[13:33] <GOMI> back again , just logged off again ?!?!
[13:33] <GOMI> on its own
[13:33] <wwwd> ohsix: Yes. I used useradd -d /home/testuser -m testuser...then changed passwd
[13:33] <ohsix> Drengur: yes, ccsm will help
[13:34] <Srebrenica> i dowload gfortran and trying to compile my program but it doesnt work though it work with windows compilers,how can run it??
[13:34] <Drengur> ohsix: I will try it out. Thank you.
[13:34] <Gucci> ActionParsnip: that sux for me then. The dude yesterday told me how to create custom menu entry for xp from this link .Cause I clearly have xp partition on here
[13:34] <pmitros> mithran: See my question. dmesg doesn't tell me. It just says '[42375.484616] usbcore: registered new interface driver snd-usb-audio'
[13:34] <ohsix> wwwd: dunno, did you try a terminal logon? i don't think -d actually creates the directory, just says where it is
[13:34] <Gucci> ActionParsnip: heres a picture of my partitions http://imagebin.org/146958
[13:34] <x404x> hm that seems to do it, now it comes up as running-idle and not mounted
[13:34] <x404x> and capacity is correct
[13:35] <ohsix> x404x: huzzah
[13:35] <wwwd> ohsix: I think -m creates the directory.
[13:35] <wwwd> I'll check the man
[13:35] <Gucci> Can anyone help? help me add windows? cause I clearly have the partition in DISK UTILITY http://imagebin.org/146958
[13:35] <ruan> Srebrenica: do you have the libs required to compile it?
[13:35] <x404x> how to make disk util run as root so i can mount the drive ?
[13:35] <pmitros> mithran: That surprised me, since it does for my webcam and my USB mass storage.
[13:35] <mithran> pmitros: ok I have no idea, normally dmesg always tells me
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> Gucci: I saw, it doesn't help me any as I am not good with grub. I single boot so have zero issues with grub
[13:35] <ohsix> wwwd: you're right
[13:35] <Gucci> ActionParsnip: dang
[13:35] <Gucci> Anyone?
[13:35] <ohsix> x404x: it should ask permission to do it when you try
[13:36] <PW-toXic> hi,  i want to plug off a hard drive, but i dont know which one i have to un-plug ... how do i know (for example) what hard drive is connected to /dev/sdb?
[13:36] <Srebrenica> i think there is not
[13:36] <Gucci> My partitions = http://imagebin.org/146958. My problem is windows is missing
[13:36] <Gucci> but the partition is there
[13:36] <ohsix> Gucci: if you mount the ntfs partition in ububtu do you see any files?
[13:36] <ohsix> os-prober needs to see them to look
[13:36] <celestial> hi everyone dumb question but can any one tell me how to install custom mouse cursors some with the extention of .cur
[13:36] <dtcrshr> anyone here from cannonical, that have access to the ubuntu site? http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/alternative-download this link has 10.04 lts i386 twice in the download links
[13:37] <ohsix> some things can make ntfs-3g refuse to mount them
[13:37] <Gucci> ohsix: could you tell me how to do that?
[13:37] <x404x> nope it just says it cannot mount unless its root, maybe coz i changed it to not ask for password all the time
[13:37] <ohsix> x404x: maybe
[13:37] <Gucci> ohsix: tried osprober already. DIdnt find windows
[13:37] <x404x> ill just try rebooting that should do it
[13:37] <Gucci> ohsix: I can upload new picture with details on my ntfs windows partition
[13:38] <Gucci> new picture will be clicked on ntfs partition details
[13:38] <ohsix> x404x: if it doesn't assemble again it might be something weird
[13:39] <lolmatic> hey
[13:39] <lolmatic> is it normal that "preparing" dpkg takes ages?
[13:39] <ohsix> yes
[13:39] <Gucci> http://imagebin.org/147004
[13:39] <pmitros> HA! hal-device does it.
[13:39] <Gucci> ohsix: http://imagebin.org/147004
[13:39] <Gucci> yes its not mounted
[13:39] <ohsix> lolmatic: it depends on how many packages you have installed
[13:40] <lolmatic> ohsix: not many
[13:40] <pmitros> dmesg doesn't, lsusb kinda does but not really, but hal-device tells me everything.
[13:40] <Gucci> I g2g bight Ill be back in the afternoon. Can anyone possible find a solution and msg it to me
[13:40] <ohsix> Gucci: that is not mounted
[13:40] <mithran> how do i use the ls command to sort files by date modified?
[13:41] <Pici> mithran: ls -lt
[13:41] <mithran> I am trying to list in order the most recent files that got copied into the directory
[13:42] <ohsix> --sort=date
[13:42] <Pici> mithran: use ls -ltr to reverse the sort.
[13:42] <ohsix> -R to reverse it
[13:42] <Pici> ohsix: -R is recursive
[13:42] <ohsix> lawl, small r
[13:42] <ohsix> right
[13:42] <ohsix> trying to think which tool uses -R cuz it's not ls
[13:43] <mithran>  Pici: thanks, works perfect
[13:43] <PoNuts2> ls -r reverse -R recursive
[13:43] <x404x> hm it seems to have assembled and all the drives says "fully synced" but it still cannot mount, it says running idle. will running repair again help ?
[13:44] <ohsix> x404x: after tring to mount it, what do you see in the output of dmesg?
[13:46] <sipior> x404x: what does mdadm -D report now?
[13:46] <dusf> since an ubuntu partial upgrade a few days ago i have intermittent sound it vlc, and choppy and intermittent sound when using WINE, are there any reports of this and how can i address the problem please?
[13:47] <aeon-ltd> dusf: is the cpu maxing out?
[13:47] <dusf> aeon-ltd: i have a monitor on my top panel, checking now but i don't think so...
[13:47] <x404x> i get a lot of error connecting to socket 101
[13:48] <dusf> aeon-ltd: no it is not, and no sound at all in vlc at the moment, before now would work on first opening but stop halfway through, or if i skipped through a video
[13:49] <kubanc> has anyone ever tried to install Gemplus GemPC Key SmartCard Reader
[13:49] <x404x> mdadm says state is clean and superblock persitant, mount tells me superblock is bad or other error
[13:49] <Frans-Willem> Hi, I have a 1TB HDD formatted as 100GB ext3, 4GB swap, remaining XFS. The swap and XFS parts are completely empty. Would anyone know what would be the quickest way to clone this drive ? (e.g. faster than just dd, seeing as most of it is just empty anyway)
[13:51] <aeon-ltd> Frans-Willem: use a livecd (clonezilla) to just copy the 100gb then use gparted to rebuild the other partitions?
[13:51] <dusf> does it suggest a problem if update manager tells me "Your system is up-to-date. The package information was last updated 84 days ago"?
[13:52] <sipior> Frans-Willem: partimage is an option, or fsarchiver.
[13:52] <syn-ack> dusf, not necessarily. Which version of Ubuntu are you running?
[13:52] <shineliqiang> hello
[13:52]  * Boothk waves a giant foam hand
[13:53] <shineliqiang> any Chinaese?
[13:53] <aeon-ltd> !cn
[13:53] <bazhang> shineliqiang, in #ubuntu-cn
[13:53] <shineliqiang> bazhang  ??/
[13:53] <dusf> syn-ack: 10.10
[13:53] <dsnyders> Hi All!  My digital camera allows me to attach a title to  a picture.  However  neither f-spot nor kphotoalbum  shows the title in the properties.  Is there a photo manager that might?  The camera is a Panasonic Lumix DMC-ZS7.
[13:53] <bazhang> shineliqiang, /join #ubuntu-cn
[13:53] <shineliqiang> 其实我想问谁说汉语的
[13:54] <bazhang> shineliqiang, here is english; #ubuntu-cn for Chinese
[13:54] <evilpleasure> lol
[13:54] <shineliqiang> oh no
[13:55] <soreau> dsnyders: Perhaps its part of the file information?
[13:55] <shineliqiang> all of you say English?
[13:55] <syn-ack> dusf, That could suggest an issue... Which servers is it trying to use? Can you tell?
[13:55] <mAritz> Is there a current gnome3 PPA for maverick?
[13:55] <dusf> syn-ack: can you tell me how to tell please? :)
[13:55] <syn-ack> shineliqiang, yes, that's what what we all say.
[13:55] <ferengee> dsnyders, you could use exiv2 or another exif reader to find out in which exiv tag the information is stored
[13:55] <kubanc> how do i install drivers for usb smart card reader?
[13:56] <shineliqiang> oh...where are you from?
[13:56] <dsnyders> ferengee, exiv2?  I'll give it a try.
[13:56] <syn-ack> What does that matter? You saw what the man said, shineliqiang.
[13:56] <shineliqiang> America or England?
[13:56] <Boothk> Question about shell scripting - if I run a predefined command in my script, is it possible to also automate the parts which require confirmation? (i.e adduser student creates a student but it also asks for details and such)
[13:56] <ferengee> dsnyders, you could than either rename the file using the exif tag or write the info to another exif tag that might be supported in your favorite photo manager
[13:57] <shineliqiang> syn-ack  I don't know what you mean.
[13:57] <erUSUL> Boothk: for scripting use you may want to use useradd instead of adduser but be carefull
[13:58] <shineliqiang> I want to know what should we do here?
[13:58] <shineliqiang> ask question or just for chating?
[13:58] <ljsoftnet> shineliqiang ask question about ubuntu
[13:58] <dyd> why all drummers are retarded?
[13:58] <dsnyders> ferengee, I suppose that might be an option.  Is there a list somewhere showing which photo manager handles which tags?
[13:59] <soreau> shineliqiang: This is the official support channel for ubuntu.
[13:59] <aeon-ltd> !ot | dyd
[13:59] <shineliqiang> oh...I think I'm wrong ,bye
[13:59] <dyd> mkay :)
[13:59] <ferengee> dsnyders, not that i know of, and i don't use any standard photomanager myself
[13:59] <jwtiyar> i cant see videos in ubuntu
[13:59] <Boothk> erUSUL: It's not limited to adduser though.. I also have apt-gets (remove, update, dist-upgrade and install) as well. Most of the commands I use require Y/N answers
[13:59] <kubanc> how do i knos more about USB devices, i know that lsusb exsists, but i would like to know more then thar
[13:59] <jwtiyar> i cant see videos in youtube and all videos
[14:00] <mAritz> Is there a current gnome3 PPA for maverick?
[14:01] <aeon-ltd> mAritz: check launchpad?
[14:01] <jwtiyar> mAritz, do these http://pastebin.com/Kcx5EwwU
[14:01] <erUSUL> Boothk: apt-get has -y option and other commands may have similar options
[14:01] <Boothk> erUSUL: I'm just trying to automate my script (which finally works), so that I can be doing other things while it works away
[14:01] <branchman> hello, what does this mean please? http://pastebin.com/SVnHWyEn
[14:01] <jwtiyar> i cant see videos in youtube and all videos??
[14:01] <Boothk> erUSUL: Really? I didn't notice
[14:01] <mAritz> jwtiyar: awesome, thanks :)
[14:02] <erUSUL> Boothk: take a look at expect? but usually is better if the tool itself has options to suppress user interaction
[14:02] <erUSUL> Boothk: -y, --yes, --assume-yes --> Automatic yes to prompts; assume "yes" as answer to all prompts and run non-interactively.
[14:02] <mAritz> jwtiyar: waaait a second. that would install 2.28
[14:02] <jingqq5210> has anyone experienced gnome3????
[14:03] <dusf> syn-ack: can you tell me how to tell please? :)
[14:03] <jwtiyar> mAritz, iam using it now just gnome-shell realeased its not stable release yet
[14:03] <coz_> mAritz,   just to be sure,, you wont be able to run compiz with that  ,, you know this ,, yes?
[14:03] <mAritz> coz_: i'm not running compiz right now eiter ;D
[14:03] <coz_> mAritz,  ah ok
[14:04] <tr4nsltr> hi all, need some help
[14:04] <Boothk> erUSUL: Alright, that pretty much answers my question. Thanks :D
[14:04] <erUSUL> Boothk: no problem
[14:04] <coz_> mAritz,   well justin case you still want it    https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3
[14:05] <tr4nsltr> any reference to downgrade 64bit ubuntu 10.04 to ubuntu 32bit 10.04 ?
[14:05] <erUSUL> tr4nsltr: you can't
[14:05] <bazhang> tr4nsltr, full reinstall
[14:05] <mAritz> coz_: afaict that's just natty. :(
[14:05] <dusf> syn-ack: it appears pulseaudio is the culprit and was reinstalled with the partial upgrade
[14:05] <dusf> when will the ubuntu software compilers learn?
[14:05] <dusf> pulseaudio doesn't work.
[14:05] <coz_> mAritz,  ah sorry,, i thought i was on natty channel
[14:06] <erUSUL> it works for most people. dusf . quoting « anecdotal evidence ( yours ) is not evidence at all »
[14:06] <jwtiyar> i cant play videosss
[14:06] <soreau> tr4nsltr: Download 32bit and install it
[14:06] <kubanc> how do i see which USB device i have plug-ed in. i would like to see the model of the device
[14:06] <soreau> jwandbor1: why not?
[14:06] <jingqq5210> any one experienced gnome3 on ubuntu????????
[14:06] <erUSUL> kubanc: lsusb
[14:06] <dusf> erUSUL: i never said it was evidence
[14:06] <soreau> kubanc: lsusb
[14:06] <ruan> jwtiyar: what type of videos?
[14:07] <coz_> jingqq5210,  personally I dont like it  but  you will have to try it to see
[14:07] <dusf> pulseaudio continue to use standards other developers will not
[14:07] <kubanc> lsusb only gives me Gemplus GemPC Key SmartCard Reader.
[14:07] <soreau> jwtiyar: How are you trying to play videos?
[14:07] <dusf> the package is a joke
[14:07] <jwtiyar> ruan, all videos from youtube and other websites
[14:07] <tr4nsltr> i've successfully upgrade 32 to 64, why can't othervwise?
[14:07] <ruan> jwtiyar: install flash
[14:07] <kubanc> but now, i need driver for this device, but i do not know which model it is
[14:07] <erUSUL> dusf: well you have to backup an absolute bold calim such as « pulseaudio doesn't work. » with some evidence; don't you ?
[14:07] <jwtiyar> ruan, also i have flash
[14:07] <dusf> erUSUL: aren't you a regular in ubuntu's support channel?
[14:07] <soreau> kubanc: What makes you think the driver isnt already installed and working?
[14:07] <adit> test message
[14:07] <erUSUL> dusf: yes
[14:08] <dusf> :)
[14:08] <bazhang> tr4nsltr, either requires a full reinstall
[14:08] <ruan> jwtiyar: apt:adobe-flashplugin?channel=$distro-partner
[14:08] <ruan> jwtiyar: enter that into your browser
[14:08] <kubanc> soreau, because i cannot see USB key in nautilus and also on virtual machine in Windows XP system...
[14:09] <shadowmancer> hey all got a current problem, could someone explain to me what gdm does
[14:09] <soreau> kubanc: After plugging in the usb key, what does dmesg have to say about it?
[14:09] <soreau> shadowmancer: gdm is gnome desktop manager
[14:09] <kubanc> soreau, [43349.825135] usb 3-1: USB disconnect, address 4
[14:09] <kubanc> [43353.930769] usb 3-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 5
[14:09] <mang0> Hey guys! I'm thinking about formatting my C drive and Installing Ubuntu (I already have a LiveCD, windows is playing up). If I put some files like videos etc onto my D drive, will I be able to acces them in Ubuntu after formatting C?
[14:09] <ruan> !info gdm | shadowmancer
[14:09] <erUSUL> dusf: if you research a nations health by going to a hospital you will inmadiently conclude that everyone in that nation is ill. so no what we see in this channel is not evidence either :)
[14:09] <shadowmancer> ok so it handles that side bar, and all that? right
[14:09] <soreau> shadowmancer: Its your login screen
[14:09] <erUSUL> mang0: yes
[14:09] <shadowmancer> ok
[14:10] <mang0> awesome
[14:10] <soreau> kubanc: Does it tell you a node name such as /dev/sdc1 ?
[14:10] <shadowmancer> so somehow every so often my side bars and everything except my windows disapear
[14:10] <ruan> mang0: yes you can access NTFS partitions in ubuntu
[14:10] <mang0> I have two HDs
[14:10] <shadowmancer> if i do sudo service gdm restart it fixes it but at the cost of losing everything and i have reopen everything
[14:10] <kubanc> soreau, NO
[14:11] <mang0> so i just wanna be able to get info off D when I wipe C and install ubuntu on it
[14:12] <dusf> erUSUL: i will defer to you as i see you in here a lot helping others, i just know it's caused me a lot of problems and when trying to fix my own came across a lot of others with similar difficulties. when i took it to alsa and wine devs they said the issue was with pulse audio refusing to develop in an interoparable way, and that removing it has once again solved my problems :)
[14:12] <ruan> mang0: you might have to mount it first
[14:12] <mang0> and I can run .exes with WINE can't I? Just I'm an animator, I use flash 8 (exe) so if i copied the program files folder onto D, could i then run it in WINE?
[14:12] <ruan> mang0: but yes, it will work
[14:12] <soreau> mang0: The drive will be labeled differently, instead of D it would be /dev/sdb1 or so but it works the same
[14:12] <mang0> k
[14:12] <jk_> d
[14:13] <Gibarian> Have a problem with my xubuntu session
[14:13] <ohsix> dusf: haha who told you that?
[14:13] <Gibarian> I got kicked out right after login
[14:13] <mang0> ruan: what do you mean i might have to mount it?
[14:13] <ohsix> dusf: the person you heard that from would rather it didn't exist, as it only causes problems for them; remember that
[14:13] <Insecticide> any body know any zombie games for linux ?
[14:13] <Gibarian> And I keep getting log out
[14:14] <aeon-ltd> Insecticide: use WINE?
[14:14] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[14:14] <ruan> !mount
[14:14] <mang0> god that bot knows everything
[14:14] <shadowmancer> hmmm so is there anyways of reseting gdm without losing everything
[14:14] <ruan> yeah
[14:14] <dsnyders> ferengee, I think I may have found it.  Exiv2 doesn't interpret it though.  It's just a hex dump.
[14:14] <Insecticide> No just open sorce
[14:14] <ohsix> dusf: it's a red herring, people that actually work with pulse have commit access and there is no trouble upstream
[14:15] <adit> test message
[14:15] <jwtiyar> ruan,doesnt work
[14:15] <banxi1988> any one have try gnome3 in ubuntu 10.4,I want to try ,but i don't know what to do ! who can give some tips!?
[14:16] <ruan> jwtiyar: does it work in chromium?
[14:16] <shadowmancer> whats the window manager for ubuntu now
[14:16] <atlef> !gnome
[14:16] <jwtiyar> ruan, wait a second
[14:16] <stojkofaco> e
[14:16] <stojkofaco> kako e
[14:16] <shadowmancer> i asked window manager
[14:16] <kubanc> soreau, i'll try to install libccid package, which holds drivers for smart card readers...
[14:17] <jwtiyar> ruan,no
[14:17] <shadowmancer> i thought their different to the desktop environment
[14:17] <dusf> oshix: someone from wine, it was some time ago now. every upgrade i have to remove pulse because it breaks my sound, insofar as not letting sound run in more than one program etc, or as described intermittent/no/choppy sound even when only one program is using it
[14:17] <dusf> with it removed everythign works fine?
[14:17] <BluesKaj> shadowmancer, X
[14:17] <soreau> kubanc: Is it a newer card reader?
[14:17] <ohsix> dusf: ah wine; yes, they don't have many people  working on their sound driver plugins, that's a wine problem
[14:17] <dsnyders> shadowmancer, were you looking for x11, xorg... that kind of thing?
[14:18] <soreau> shadowmancer: The default wm in ubuntu is compiz, unless there is some problem in which case it falls back to metacity which is the default wm for gnome
[14:18] <lolmatic> hi, i did run update for all my software and now the installer hangs at "preparing dpkg" since one hour. what can i do?
[14:19] <shadowmancer> soreau: thanks
[14:19] <ohsix> dusf: you should use pasuspender with wine, then it will get out of the way; some day wine will have someone that can actually write a proper audio program work on fixing the drivers, i respect the work that they do but i've had discussions with all of them and they don't even understand the problem domain
[14:19] <lolmatic> even the cancel button is greyed out
[14:19] <lolmatic> :(
[14:19] <jwtiyar> ruan, what i have to do? i think after upgrading this error appeared
[14:19] <atlef> banxi1988: read here http://blogs.gnome.org/rodrigo/2011/03/03/gnome3-on-ubuntu/
[14:20] <dusf> ohsix: i see
[14:20] <esing123> hey
[14:20] <suave____> Hi
[14:20] <suave____> I need help
[14:20] <esing123> someone can help to install the terratec driver for ubuntu
[14:20] <esing123> i ve got following source
[14:20] <esing123> http://linux.terratec.de/tv_en.html
[14:20] <shadowmancer> soreau: what controls the side bar which is loaded by default with ubuntu (or atleast the netbook remix)
[14:20] <suave____> is there any expert on irssi here?
[14:21] <ohsix> just ask your question
[14:21] <Travis-42> I have multiple monitors -- is there any way to enable the rotation of the monitors (separately)?
[14:21] <esing123> the only information i get of that site is this: Included in v4l-dvb repositery: ttp://www.linuxtv.org
[14:21] <esing123> do i have add that url now in my repository file?
[14:21] <esing123> and that apt-get install terratec t5 ?
[14:21] <Pici> !enter
[14:21] <esing123> because terratec t5 is my device
[14:21] <esing123> :))
[14:21] <Pici> suave____: Probably, but #irssi is probably the best place to ask.
[14:21] <suave____> I messed up my irssi setting, i would like to reset the settings
[14:22] <esing123> ahh i think not many people are only because the time in USA is different thatn to europe hehe
[14:22] <suave____> Pici, thanks
[14:22] <esing123> pici you know some stuff?
[14:22] <esing123> maybe you can help me haha
[14:22] <Pici> esing123: I know you're pressing enter way too much. Try to keep your questions on one line.
[14:22] <soreau> shadowmancer: I am not familiar with netbook remix
[14:22] <esing123> pici should I rephrase ?
[14:22] <shadowmancer> >.<
[14:22] <soreau> shadowmancer: In standard ubuntu, there is no side bar (at least, releases prior to natty)
[14:23] <Pici> esing123: Sure.
[14:23] <atlef> suave____: try deleting your ./irssi folder and restart irssi
[14:23] <jwtiyar> please peoplee
[14:23] <BluesKaj> lolmatic, have you enabled all relavent repos in the package manager including canonical partners, if so then run , sudo dpkg --configure -a , in a terminal , then try updating again
[14:23] <suave____> atlef, thanks I'll try that
[14:24] <Gibarian> Little help here... I have a problem with my xubuntu session...
[14:24] <esing123> okay. I want to install my dvb-t tunner called " terratec T5" on my linux mashine. I found website called : http://linux.terratec.de/tv_en.html      which offers those drivers. But i dont understand how can i install those on my ubuntu. do i have to put the www.linuxtv.org into my repository file and then install through apt-get install?
[14:24] <Gibarian> I am logged off inmediatly after login
[14:25] <atlef> Gibarian: #xubuntu
[14:25] <lolmatic> BluesKaj: hi, well i dont have canonical partners enabled. but all the other ones are enabled
[14:25] <Shadowmancer> what is that bar on the desktop of ubuntu, its on the pictures of 11.04
[14:25] <debd> hi
[14:25] <Shadowmancer> its on the left side fo th
[14:25] <esing123> nvm
[14:26] <debd> anyone here?
[14:26] <Shadowmancer> of the screen*
[14:26] <SirDeiu> Shadowmancer: that is the Unity launcher
[14:26] <debd> can someone tell me how I remove the prev ver. of glib i.e. glib-2.0 from my ststem?
[14:27] <ikonia> debd: don't do that
[14:27] <Shadowmancer> SirDeiu: excellent, now i know what to restart when i crashes when i close a program
[14:27] <erUSUL> debd: why would you want to do that?
[14:27] <ikonia> debd: where has the "new" version come from ?
[14:27] <debd> but to compile gtk it asks for glib 2.27.3
[14:27] <debd> gtk2+
[14:27] <lolmatic> BluesKaj: which process do i have to kill to stop the update?
[14:28] <Pici> debd: why do you need to compile gtk?
[14:28] <debd> ftp://ftp.gtk.org/pub/glib/2.27/
[14:28] <ikonia> debd: are you aware how much this will probably break your system ?
[14:28] <debd> cause I cant get abiword to compile and work properly
[14:28] <ikonia> why ar eyou compiling abiword
[14:28] <ikonia> these are packages that are all in the repo
[14:28] <debd> trying
[14:28] <debd> I know
[14:29] <ikonia> debd: ok, so why are you doing it ?
[14:29] <debd> Ijst wanted to compile abi from source
[14:29] <MasterBob> Hello
[14:29] <debd> I hot all the dep.s
[14:29] <MasterBob> What's a good IRC client?
[14:29] <eipou_> Xchat
[14:30] <ikonia> debd: why ?
[14:30] <debd>  I got all the dep.s for compiling aby
[14:30] <fairuz> Hi, Any idea why I have a lot of /usr/sbin/console-kit-daemon when I did htop?
[14:30] <debd> abi
[14:30] <ikonia> debd: why are you doing this, you are putting yourself in a position to break your system
[14:30] <fairuz> what does this thing do
[14:30] <atlef> MasterBob: pidgin, irssi
[14:30] <MasterBob> eipou_, Xchat or xchat-gnome?
[14:30] <debd> but after installing it isn't opening
[14:30] <Bardology> Anyone had an issue where upon installing mysql-server with apt-get, no mysqld.sock is created and the server won't start?
[14:30] <Pici> MasterBob: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[14:30] <ikonia> debd: how did you install it ?
[14:30] <DJones> MasterBob: It depends what you want, xchat is quite popular with a gui, and irssi is a terminal based app
[14:31] <debd> ran configure; make ; checkinstall
[14:31] <ikonia> debd: ok - so that's where I end support
[14:31] <ikonia> debd: you're trying to start an application that is failing to compile
[14:31] <BluesKaj> lolmatic, which package manager ?
[14:31] <ikonia> debd: from my opinion you should not be doing any of this
[14:31] <eipou_> MasterBob, whatever you prefer. There is not much difference.
[14:31] <debd> but the dep. s I got through apt-get did'nt meet the ver. requirements
[14:32] <debd> it was compiled anyway
[14:32] <jwtiyar> i cant open videos every wheere i have flash
[14:32] <MasterBob> Thanks DJones, eipou_, atlef.
[14:32] <debd> and installed with sudo checkinstall --fstrans=0
[14:32] <ikonia> debd: I can't support you're system, you've made a mess of it and you don't know what you're doing,
[14:32] <MasterBob> eipou_, okay. Thanks, guess I'll have to try both.
[14:32] <debd> I have made no mess
[14:32] <lolmatic> BluesKaj: i was running the update from system menu
[14:33] <debd> abiword wich ws previously installed ; was removes from synaptic
[14:33] <debd> *removed
[14:33] <MasterBob> Bye bye
[14:33] <debd> now I want to give it another try
[14:34] <debd> and I havn't tried to install gtk2+ manually yet
[14:34] <debd> I was jst searching for the dep. s it required
[14:36] <BluesKaj> lolmatic, hmm, the only thing I can suggest is somewhat dirty , log out and back in , open a terminal , sudo dphkg --configure -a , then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[14:36] <dsnyders> debd, type everything on one line.  This is a busy chat and your question is being scattered all over the place.
[14:36] <mithran> is Glade used for GTK2 development?
[14:37] <edbian> mithran: You can use it
[14:37] <Koolio> hm
[14:37] <mithran> using GTK2 can I write any applications for android?
[14:37] <BMJackal> hi, anybody who knows a thing or two about Perl? (XML::Simple specifically)
[14:37] <debd> you are too impatient to hear me ikonia
[14:37] <erUSUL> mithran: android does not use gtk
[14:38] <GibbaTheHutt> BMJackal, anything in particular ?
[14:38] <RPG__Master> Can I install packages while running from a LiveCD?
[14:38] <edbian> mithran: pretty sure android is all about the javas
[14:38] <anonboots> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? <- What is the dpkg command to fix this? I forgot it.
[14:38] <mithran> erUSUL: so Applications will just work on Gnome and XFCE then?
[14:38] <RPG__Master> I need to use backintime to back up my home folder from my messed up computer.
[14:38] <Pici> debd: Installing things from source is something that is usually not needed on Ubuntu, especially for things that are already provided in the repositories.  I don't know why you're trying to do this, and you will break your system by randomly installing different versions of things that are critical.
[14:38] <Pici> !aptfix | anonboots
[14:38] <edbian> anonboots: You have more than one package manager open at once (you can't do that).  Look for the process in ps -e  (or gnome system monitor) and kill it.
[14:38] <BMJackal> GibbaTheHutt: yup, I have the hash structure produced by XMLin, but I cannot access the array that it creates (always says the length is greater than it is)
[14:39] <RPG__Master> So I need to know, can I use synaptic and install stuff like normal even though I'll be running froma  LiveCD?
[14:39] <erUSUL> mithran: will work in any unix that has gtk libs and in meego and in windows ( there are ports of gtk to windows )
[14:39] <GibbaTheHutt> pm me if you want, maybe nopaste the code, I may be able to help, maybe not :)
[14:39] <lolmatic> BluesKaj: i just rebooted the shit machine, now its installing properly
[14:39] <Pici> mithran: #android and #android-dev are likely better places to seek information about making programs for android.
[14:39] <debd> I am aware of that.
[14:39] <Pici> lolmatic: Please mid your language here.
[14:39] <Pici> *mind
[14:39] <pkkm> How to set different nameserver for certain user?
[14:39] <GibbaTheHutt> Sorry, that was to BMJackal
[14:40] <anonboots> Pici, upon running that command, I get this reply "dpkg: status database area is locked by another process"
[14:40] <Pici> anonboots: Then it sounds like you do still have another apt front end running.
[14:40] <anonboots> I do. Its software center.
[14:40] <edbian> anonboots: So kill that.
[14:40] <anonboots> The packages it was installing... arent installing.
[14:41] <debd> ok. would you tell me only one thing?  is it possible to prevent apt-get from downloading outdated archives? and if yes, how?
[14:42] <Travis-42> Can anyone tell me how I can enable letting my displays rotate in Ubuntu?
[14:43] <destinydriven> hi
[14:43] <gimpy4685> On ubuntu 10.10 x64 I installed finger-ldap but it complains "Can't read /etc/libnss-ldap.conf" and that file doesn't exist. Is there a package which does have it I am missing?
[14:43] <dsnyders> Travis-42, You mean to switch from landscape to portrait as you turn your monitor?
[14:44] <Travis-42> dsnyders, yea. I used to do that in Windows, but can't seem to figure it out in Ubuntu.
[14:44] <BluesKaj> lolmatic, ok
[14:44] <dr0id> how do i get folder contents count ?
[14:44] <mithran> can someone suggest a good networking channel?, I have a DHCP client not recieveing offers problem :(
[14:45] <mordof> this version 10.10... it says If i'm using windows, i can use Ubuntu Windows installer to run Ubuntu alongside your current system.   that could mean one of two things: A) it just installs itself to a seperate partition while i'm still in windows, or B) it installs itself as a VM to run inside windows..?
[14:45] <iceroot> mithran: #network #freenode
[14:45] <mordof> which one is it?
[14:45] <josip> Is there any way I can attach a hook when a monitor gets plugged in ?
[14:45] <atlef> RPG__Master: read a little here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD/Persistence
[14:45] <stjohnmedrano> good evening i have a external WD hd my ubuntu cant detect even in Disk Utility, i tried to issue fdisk -l but no luck, need help thanks
[14:45] <acer__> Есть кто живой?
[14:45] <ssd> hi
[14:46] <acer__> Оо
[14:46] <ssd> hello
[14:46] <ssd> hola
[14:46] <acer__> Hallo
[14:46] <dr0id> hello
[14:46] <dr0id> oO
[14:46] <dsnyders> Travis-42, Not a clue.  Sorry.
[14:46] <dr0id> how do i get folder contents count ?
[14:46] <ssd> hi
[14:46] <atlef> !hello
[14:46] <ssd> this is my first time here
[14:46] <ohsix> stjohnmedrano: look at the output of lsusb in a terminal, if it is not there there will probably be an error message in the output of 'dmesg' near the time when you plugged it in
[14:46] <dr0id> ssd: o ye ?
[14:47] <dr0id> lets party
[14:47] <ssd> yes
[14:47] <iceroot> !ot
[14:47] <ssd> its really cool
[14:47] <dr0id> !ot
[14:47] <dr0id> yeh
[14:47] <dr0id> how do i get folder contents count ?
[14:47] <ssd> what kind of linux u use
[14:47] <iceroot> ssd: you have a ubuntu-support-question?
[14:47] <dr0id> well, i use redhat but i am asking in ubuntu
[14:47] <dr0id> cuz am crazy
[14:47] <g0tcha> hey guys, is there a way to give any user under group "test1" to have their home directory automaticly set to /home/test1/user ?
[14:47] <ssd> ok
[14:48] <dsnyders> Travis-42, Google up xrandr.  Some people are using that.
[14:48] <ssd> im using backtrack 4
[14:48] <ssd> really nice
[14:48] <Travis-42> dsnyders, thanks, I'll look into that
[14:48] <aeon-ltd> ARCH! linux....
[14:48] <iceroot> ssd: again, you have a support-question?
[14:48] <dr0id> :D
[14:48] <dr0id> how do i get folder contents count ?
[14:48] <iceroot> !repeat | dr0id
[14:48] <ssd> no
[14:48] <ohsix> !backtrack | ssd
[14:48] <ssd> why
[14:48] <acer__> Sprechen sie deutsch?
[14:48] <LjL> ssd: this channel is for Ubuntu technical support only. if you're not using Ubuntu, or simply want to chat about it, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:48] <Pici> dr0id: ls /path/ | wc -l
[14:48] <Pici> !de | acer__
[14:48] <LjL> !de | acer__
[14:48] <dr0id> haha , sorry. but its kinda urgent
[14:49] <overshard> Was 11.04 ever pushed back? It's end of month but for some reason I thought it was originally earlier
[14:49] <dsnyders> Travis-42, I think what you do is define two screens in xorg.conf and switch between them somehow.
[14:49] <dr0id> mmmm thanks Pici
[14:49] <Pici> overshard: No, its always been the end of the month.  Further Natty dicussion in #ubuntu+1
[14:49] <stjohnmedrano> ohsix: lsusb not found also,
[14:49] <acer__> oO ok, speak english :)
[14:49] <AnubArack> what was that app called that gives you an ASCII version of the test you input (like cowsay but not that one)
[14:49] <overshard> Pici: ok thanks, just making sure
[14:49] <RPG__Master> atlef, Thanks! That looks like just what I needed to know.
[14:49] <Pici> overshard: 10.10 was on the 10th, but only because they wanted to release it on 10/10/10
[14:49] <mordof> Is Wubi an in-windows install, basically it's own VM? if so - how reliably does it work / recieve updates?  I'd like to run ubuntu from a VM instead of a standalone OS but i'm wondering about performance issues and whatnot
[14:50] <atlef> RPG__Master: you are welcome
[14:50] <ohsix> stjohnmedrano: ok, if theres nothing about it in dmesg then you have to start wondering if it's even plugged in :]
[14:50] <Travis-42> dsnyders, ah that might make sense! I already switch between some screen setups using xorg.conf to let me enable/disable monitors. probably can't be automatic, but it'll be good enough, thank you
[14:50] <Pici> mordof: Its not a VM, it installs it within a file containing a disk image. It works well, except that there are sometimes issues with updating the bootloader.
[14:50] <ohsix> mordof: it uses a file as a hard drive, it's as native as a partitioned install; except with the added overhead of 2 filesystems
[14:51] <stjohnmedrano> ohsix: i think its plugin coz there is a white light
[14:51] <acer__> You speak russia?
[14:51] <ssd> can i find porn servers here?
[14:51] <Pici> !ru | acer__
[14:51] <Pici> ssd: no.
[14:51] <mordof> Pici, ahsix: ah.. ok thanks :) i shall give that a try then and see how it works.
[14:52] <ssd> there are no porn servers here?
[14:52] <iceroot> ssd: just stop it
[14:52] <dr0id> Pici: not sure why that works tho :P
[14:52] <FoolsRun> Hi, can anyone tell me where Alien saves converted .deb files? They're not in the same directory as the rpms I converted, but I can't re-convert because wherever they are, they can't be overwritten :)
[14:52] <Pici> dr0id: ls changes its output if its being piped into another program. It confused me at first too.
[14:53] <Pici> dr0id: Try ls | less to see for yourself.
[14:53] <ohsix> more specifically, it checks if stdout is a terminal
[14:53] <ohsix> when it's piped by the shell it isn't
[14:53] <dr0id> yeh, i have tried | less or | more before :P
[14:53] <Pici> ohsix: Thanks for the clarification.
[14:54] <mordof> oh, one last thing before i install Wubi and risk wasting bandwidth - Wubi is capable of going fullscreen overtop the windows UI right?
[14:54] <ohsix> glad i can
[14:54] <mordof> it'll be pointless if it doesn't :\ lol
[14:54] <dsnyders> Travis-42, You're welcome.  You may also want to do a bit of googling on grandr as well.  As far as the switch being automatic, you may be able to write a script and reprogram one of the function keys.
[14:54] <atlef> mordof: yes
[14:54] <Pici> mordof: A wubi install does not run at the same time that windows does.  You still need to reboot to run it.
[14:54] <aeon-ltd> mordof: huh, wubi dualboots with windows using mbr instead of grub
[14:54] <mordof> oh
[14:54] <ohsix> mordof: it will boot instead of windows; the only thing in common is where the files are stored
[14:54] <mordof> hm :\
[14:55] <mordof> that's pointless then, i'm installing it normally
[14:55] <mordof> it sounded like it was nested inside windows, lol
[14:55] <mordof> running and everything like a VM
[14:55] <asdo> hi. i am on debian right now. i want to prepare my pendrive that i can install ubuntu 10.10 from it. so i don't have "disc creator", how can i prepare my pendrive? (i have got ubuntu 10.10 desktop iso already)
[14:55] <rumpe1> asdo, use unetbootin
[14:55] <Pici> mordof: Its an option for people who do not want to re-partition their drives, and that only.
[14:55] <AnubArack> how come xchat link open in FF when i set chrome as default ? (other programs send to chrome)
[14:55] <mordof> ah
[14:56] <atlef> asdo:  unetbootin
[14:56] <ohsix> mordof: which can help if you can't decide or don't know up front how much space you want/need for each
[14:56] <asdo> how about dd?
[14:56] <ohsix> dd'ing an iso to a usb stick won't do anything
[14:57] <ohsix> there is an image you can use with dd though
[14:57] <FoolsRun> Huh. I really can't find these converted .deb files
[14:57] <mordof> is it still the case that i have to use the 64 bit version of the OS to get multi-core support?
[14:58] <ohsix> mordof: that was never the case
[14:58] <mordof> i think that was a very long time ago
[14:58] <ohsix> unless you mean software restrictions in windows, which obviously wouldn't apply; and ubuntu doesn't charge by the socket/core ;]
[14:58] <IsoLinCHiP> Hi, can anyone think of a way to change the default monitor in a dual screen setup, without creating a xorg.conf? is there some gconf setting or the likes? Id prefer X to autodetect the correct driver, since I sometimes boot from a vbox and sometimes on real hardware
[14:58] <mordof> it's been a while since i've used ubuntu.. lol.  when multi-core kernel support was coming out it was only in the 64 bit kernel release if i remember correctly
[14:59] <bencc> is there a way to have a "fake" webcam for development?
[14:59] <xwx> hi
[14:59] <iceroot> IsoLinCHiP: xrandr
[14:59] <FoolsRun> one more before giving up:  Does anyone know where Alien saves converted files? I can't find them anywhere.
[14:59] <ohsix> bencc: yep
[14:59] <iceroot> FoolsRun: at the current directory you are calling alien
[14:59] <mordof> FoolsRun:  no idea what Alien is, so i can't help ya there
[15:00] <ohsix> bencc: v4l has vloopback; theres a few things that can write video to it
[15:00] <FoolsRun> iceroot: That's what I thought, but they're not there.
[15:00] <FoolsRun> iceroot: however, if I run Alien again, it says it can't overwrite the .deb files taht apparently exist somewhere.
[15:00] <dsnyders> Hi all!  Is there a program that will convert space separated hex characters into ASCII.  eg 86 65 78 69 83 83 65 44 32 76 65 0
[15:00] <iceroot> FoolsRun: sounds like its time for "find" or "locate"
[15:01] <FoolsRun> locate *.deb or something?
[15:01] <iceroot> !locate | FoolsRun
[15:01] <iceroot> FoolsRun: locate foobar*.deb
[15:02] <mordof> dsnyders:  you could probably write a simple bash script to do that
[15:02] <mordof> dsnyders: it wouldn't be that hard
[15:02] <DJones> FoolsRun: Does this help? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1017192
[15:02] <mk0> i burned 11.04 iso to usb flash. How to start installing under linux?
[15:02] <rumpe1> bencc, http://hardc0l2e.wordpress.com/2010/01/20/fake-webcam-in-ubuntu-linux/
[15:03] <iceroot> mk0: not a good idea to use a beta if you dont know how to handle it
[15:03] <rumpe1> mk0, difficult... much easer is booting from stick
[15:03] <mk0> i cannot boot from stick.
[15:03] <aero_> why not?
[15:03] <bencc> rumpe1: thanks. trying
[15:03] <mk0> Smth is wrong with PC
[15:04] <mk0> with memory or hdd
[15:04] <mordof> mk0: does your motherboard support it?
[15:04] <mk0> yep
[15:04] <rumpe1> mk0, "cannot boot" is not a sufficient error report
[15:04] <mk0> who is speaking about error support?
[15:04] <FoolsRun> locate cannot find the files
[15:05] <mk0> I just  want to run installer under 10.04
[15:05] <tlvb> Do anybody know what the difference between the 2.2Beta skype ubuntu package and the static/dynamic ones are? the md5sums of the binaries does not match. While it is reasonable that the static/dynamic ones are different of course, the binary in the ubuntu deb matches _neither_ ...!?
[15:05] <atlef> mk0: what did you use to create the usb stick
[15:05] <mk0> erhhh why?
[15:05] <mk0> the stick works okay in other PC's
[15:06] <rumpe1> mk0, well... then i would recommend installing it via virtualbox... but its much trickier
[15:06] <mk0> not a virtual box/ just run onstaller and install to a separate partition
[15:06] <mordof> mk0: there is an installer for that in ubuntu. you should download that
[15:07] <mordof> ah nevermind
[15:07] <mordof> misread something on the downloads page
[15:07] <IsoLinCHiP> Ok, so after looking up xrandr, I read that basically the gnome monitor applet uses xrandr. Unfortunately the gui doesnt seem to provide settings for the default monitor, anyone know where the monitor applet saves its settings? maybe that would be hackable :)
[15:08] <FoolsRun> This is ridiculous. I'm going to have to format my machine because I can't find these .deb files
[15:08] <mordof> FoolsRun:  just out of curiosity - did you do an updatedb before locate?
[15:08] <FoolsRun> mordof: I did
[15:08] <dr0id> locate can find files
[15:08] <mordof> k, just thought i'd check to make sure, heh
[15:09] <tlvb> FoolsRun: try using find instead
[15:09] <FoolsRun> find *.deb?
[15:09] <mordof> so on a side note - why is the 32 bit version of the OS recommended over 64 bit?
[15:09] <dr0id> find -name '*.deb' ;)
[15:09] <IsoLinCHiP> FoolsRun: find / -name 'NameOfIt.deb'
[15:09] <rumpe1> FoolsRun, maybe try "sudo find / -iname '*.deb'"
[15:09] <tlvb> find is very powerful, you can have regexes and stuff if you want that too...
[15:10] <atlef> mordof: on a system with 4gb of ram or more, get the 64bit. otherwise 32bit will do
[15:10] <mordof> atlef: alright. 64 bit it is~
[15:10] <mordof> atlef: i forgot about that limitation, thanks for the reminder... heh
[15:11] <atlef> mordof: you are welcome
[15:11] <DasEi> mordof: that doesn't fit so much noadays nomore, former there where some apps hard to get in 64' , but lso can use pae, 64 is fine, use that
[15:11] <DasEi> !pae
[15:11] <geckosenator> does anyone know how to run two programs, each one forced to use a different  network adaptor by default?
[15:12] <atlef> DasEi: im old :-)
[15:12] <mordof> DasEi: ehh.. i'll just install the 64 bit OS
[15:12] <FoolsRun> find doesn't find the files I need
[15:12] <DasEi> yes
[15:12] <aminho> Hi guys
[15:12] <aminho> for gmail and ubuntu users, what do you use to get inbox notifications in Gnome
[15:12] <dsnyders> geckosenator, some programs allow you to choose the network adapter
[15:13] <iceroot> aminho: what about the indicator-applet?
[15:13] <mk0> it's quite confusing that there's an desktop installer under win and under linux there's no anything.
[15:13] <DasEi> FoolsRun: locate is another possib', but database must be set up before
[15:13] <geckosenator> dsnyders: no good, I want a generic way
[15:13] <tlvb> FoolsRun: what is your exact command (just to be sure)
[15:13] <aminho> iceroot, i'm taking a look at it
[15:13] <geckosenator> dsnyders: like a shell or something that blocks some interfaces
[15:13] <FoolsRun> sudo find / -name *.deb
[15:13] <mordof> mk0: not really.. you're already in linux. you shouldn't need to install the new OS - besides.. you can't reinstall the entire OS while in it anyway. i'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish by the route you're taking. a dual boot?
[15:13] <geckosenator> dsnyders: the best I know of is running qemu and only linking a certain adapter
[15:13] <FoolsRun> it finds some .debs in apt archives, but not the ones I converted with Alien
[15:14] <tlvb> you need to escape the *.deb as either \*.deb or '*.deb'
[15:14] <DasEi> FoolsRun: looking for  a deb ? try *deb
[15:14] <mk0> not reinstall. Dual boot of course
[15:14] <aminho> iceroot, looks like it needs evolution set up ?
[15:14] <DasEi> FoolsRun: or have some patience for : sudo updatedb && locate *deb
[15:15] <mordof> mk0: only reason for the windows one is so that windows users can try the OS without a format/partition management
[15:15] <mordof> mk0: you can't use a CD?
[15:15] <Pici> FoolsRun: Did you have write access in the path where you ran alien?
[15:15] <dsnyders> geckosenator, You may be able to do something with permissions
[15:15] <IsoLinCHiP> geckosenator: While just about any reasonable daemon will normally provide you with a option to specify which address (read device) to listen on, you could probably do some trickery with iptables
[15:15] <mk0> i have no cd. Only usb and iso
[15:15] <Dragonbut> Hai
[15:15] <geckosenator> IsoLinCHiP: I want programs like firefox and transmission, not daemons
[15:15] <geckosenator> IsoLinCHiP: maybe I could use a proxy server though
[15:16] <atlef> mk0: there might be something here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[15:16] <Dragonbut> What are some cool things you can do with Ubuntu desktop that you can't do with Windows?
[15:16] <mordof> mk0: you may need to fix the problem with why your USB won't boot up
[15:16] <rumpe1> mk0, well... if your pc doesnt boot from usb, you also could create an entry in grub2 for an iso... i guess.. and boot this way
[15:16] <FoolsRun> Pici: yes, and I ran it with sudo
[15:16] <geckosenator> IsoLinCHiP: any suggestions for which filter to use in iptables?
[15:16] <mordof> rumpe1: oh hey.. that's a cool idea :o
[15:16] <rumpe1> Dragonbut, you can get rid of the desktop and be still able to work ^^
[15:16] <mk0> it boots from usb. But this days something got broken
[15:17] <atlef> mk0: but do you want to dual boot different versions of ubuntu?
[15:17] <Pici> FoolsRun: Whats the issue with running alien again?
[15:17] <mk0> yep, this is the aim
[15:17] <IsoLinCHiP> geckosenator: hmm, ok, if you want specific programms, either look into tsocks and setup a socks proxy server with filtering, or try a search for iptables and transparent proxy, thatll probably get you started in the right direction
[15:17] <mk0> to have lts and betas beside
[15:18] <FoolsRun> Pici: I converted some RPMs and I can't find the .debs. They're not in the directory I ran Alien in, and they're not found by locate or find. I can't convert again because it says the .debs can't be overwritten.
[15:18] <Huskies> Hi all!
[15:18] <rumpe1> mk0, this sounds like something for you: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/02/how-to-boot-iso-with-grub2-easy-way.html
[15:18] <geckosenator> IsoLinCHiP: cool... the really tricky part will be getting bittorrent to work using multiple interfaces for the same file :-P
[15:18] <dsnyders> Dragonbut, You can have the program run on one computer and display on another.
[15:18] <Dragonbut> That's all?
[15:18] <IsoLinCHiP> geckosenator: tsocks hooks into the system calls for network, so maybe a search for 'like tsocks' or 'LDPRELOAD network' gives you usefull hits
[15:19] <Pici> FoolsRun: Then it sounds like they are indeed in the path where your .rpms are.  What makes you think that they arent?
[15:19] <FoolsRun> Pici: the fact that they're not there. ls, ls -a, and ls as root shows only the .rpm files
[15:19] <atlef> mk0: then you need separate root and home direcories
[15:19] <Huskies> Who can use Metasploit Framework?
[15:19] <mk0> i know this, i'd prefer just launch iso that is on usb stick now. Afair smth similar to this i saw in 10.04
[15:19] <maus> Hi there. I'm experiencing a weird problem. I'm not sure whether it's ubuntu related or not.  But since I'm on ubuntu I'm asking here. I have a large text I need to paste into a textarea in  firefox. Unfortunately, I can't paste a snippet when it becomes longer than a 1000 lines or so.  It can be pasted to text editor, but browser just does nothing then I press 'paste'. Any ideas?
[15:19] <stevecam> how do i change the max volume that i can go up to when im using the gnome desktop environment, alsa lets the PCM volume go over 0dB and I do not want this to happen
[15:19] <geckosenator> IsoLinCHiP: it would be best if the kernel could do this and send every other packet to a different interface
[15:19] <Pici> FoolsRun: ls *.deb  doesn't reveal anything?
[15:20] <IsoLinCHiP> geckosenator: If your not on a LAN that wont give you any speed increase, as your 'dialup is still the bottleneck/same IP'
[15:20] <geckosenator> IsoLinCHiP: for transmission, but keep all the tcp acks on the right one
[15:20] <mk0> like installer runs under win32
[15:20] <dsnyders> Dragonbut, I'm sure there are lots of things.  Multiple desktops.  Wobbly windows.  Snapping.  Google up compiz and see where that takes you.
[15:20] <Huskies> People!!!
[15:20] <rumpe1> maus, like for a pastebin e.g.?
[15:20] <geckosenator> IsoLinCHiP: I live on a sailboat in mexico, I have automatically aimed wifi antennas, I can get 6 different connections, but only use 1 at a time :(
[15:20] <Huskies> Who can use Metasploit?
[15:21] <FoolsRun> Pici: no, it doesn't
[15:21] <IsoLinCHiP> geckosenator: Ahh, ok, I see, so you basically want downstream from satelite and upstream via the wifi antenna?
[15:23] <iceroot> aminho: also working with gmail and thunderbird
[15:23] <IsoLinCHiP> geckosenator: Umn, scratch that with the satelites ;) didnt read carefully
[15:23] <geckosenator> IsoLinCHiP: no, up and down from multiple wifis in different places
[15:23] <geckosenator> so if one goes down it sends retries on a different interface
[15:23] <geckosenator> and if a new one comes online it starts using it
[15:23] <iceroot> aminho: i have configured indicator-applet to work with thunderbird
[15:23] <nyuszika7h> Hi! I've installed libv8-2.2.1.8, now how do I use it from the terminal?
[15:23] <maus> rumpe1, actually for a drupal site. But yes, both interfaces are based on a <textarea>.
[15:23] <aminho> ok iceroot, thanks
[15:23] <Dragonbut> What about all the programming linux is known for?
[15:23] <FoolsRun> Pici: I even copied just the RPMs to a new directory and ran Alien there --same error.
[15:23] <Pici> !ot | Dragonbut
[15:23] <DasEi> geckosenator: then you just bind interfaces
[15:23] <iceroot> nyuszika7h: what you want to do with a lib on the shell?
[15:24] <geckosenator> IsoLinCHiP: i would take the satellite, but I dont have enough $$ for one afaik
[15:24] <geckosenator> IsoLinCHiP: the auto-aimed part is for wifi directional antennas so I can get signal from miles away, I built it using arduino and servo motor
[15:24] <nyuszika7h> iceroot: maybe experiment with some JS code
[15:24] <Dragonbut> Does the desktop version just dump that in the trash? And no. This is Ubuntu support.
[15:24] <pkkm> How to set a different nameserver for one user?
[15:24] <DasEi> geckosenator: so either if it's bandwith or it's function get's lost, the other turns in
[15:24] <geckosenator> DasEi: you mean in code you would call "bind"
[15:25] <IsoLinCHiP> geckosenator: Hmm... that will indeed be tricky, Im not sure the bittorrent prtocoll supports that, you might have to run multiple clients (one per interface) as I dont think the trackers deal well with changing IP addresses
[15:25] <DasEi> geckosenator: no, it's bounding, and is set up in /etc/network/interfaces
[15:25] <IsoLinCHiP> geckosenator: Hehe, sweet, sounds cool, did you improvice that hardware hack or do you have a link to instructions somewhere?
[15:25] <Dragonbut> Does the Ubuntu desktop version just dump all the  programming stuff Linux is known for in the trash?
[15:25] <geckosenator> IsoLinCHiP: I think I would have to hack the client for that specific case
[15:26] <ilVice> How can I install gnome 3 on my ubuntu 10.10 ???
[15:26] <Dragonbut> And shut  up because Ubuntu is Linux
[15:26] <ikonia> Dragonbut: tone it down
[15:26] <Dragonbut> =)
[15:26] <ohsix> Dragonbut: the kernel is linux
[15:26] <geckosenator> Dragonbut:  you mean ~/.local/share/Trash?
[15:26] <ikonia> Dragonbut: I'm not joking, tone it down, don't tell people to shut up
[15:26] <Dragonbut> Okay Ikonia
[15:27] <AZora> Brand new install. Prompted by gnome-keyring no less than 4 times by trying to use epiphany. Will not accept my user password. There is no manpage, the Ubuntu forums recommend using software that isn't installed (yet?) in 10.10.  Help indicates this was written by a guy at redhat, which explains a lot. Standard bot advice?
[15:27] <Dragonbut> No Geckosenator
[15:27] <FoolsRun> "programming" can be done in any operating system. Linux doesn't have any kind of monopoly on the idea of "programming".
[15:27] <Pici> Dragonbut: I don't know you're on about.  You asked a general linux question here that doesn't have anything to do with support. I asked you to ask in our -offtopic channel.
[15:27] <atlef> iViLe: http://blogs.gnome.org/rodrigo/2011/03/03/gnome3-on-ubuntu/
[15:27] <ohsix> Dragonbut: linux doesn't say anything about "programming stuff" insofar as a vdso for calling syscalls
[15:27] <Goliath> hola
[15:27] <Dragonbut> I know FoolsRun
[15:27] <Goliath>  http://tuxguitar.herac.com.ar/download.html Is it better to get the excelsior jet version or the binary version?
[15:27] <saege> hey, is there a way to show the unity start menu in 11.04 permanent, also when i have a maximized window?
[15:27] <Pici> saege : Natty/11.04 is not yet released. Please join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion.
[15:27] <Logan_> ilVice: iirc, that is not currently possible on 10.10
[15:28] <Dragonbut> Well, Linux is known for programming or something.
[15:28] <atlef> ilVice: http://blogs.gnome.org/rodrigo/2011/03/03/gnome3-on-ubuntu/
[15:28] <ikonia> Dragonbut: if you don't know what you're talking about, I suggest you don't speak
[15:28] <IsoLinCHiP> geckosenator: Yes, Im afraid thats probably the case, but Im not an expert in that area, so maybe its possible afterall. The most obvious solution I can come up with atm is running on client per interface and trying to have them share the same storage area
[15:28] <ikonia> Dragonbut: if you want to discuss this take it ti #ubuntu-offtopic channel
[15:29] <Logan_> atlef: that is only for natty
[15:29] <Dragonbut> I'll mark you on my list as partially helpful and probably won't be back. Thank you and good bye. :3
[15:29] <didier> Hi, eveyone.
[15:29] <AZora> MS Windows only offers a small subset of their API to programmers, then an enhanced API set to OEM vendors of a certain size. A great deal of the API is closed to everyone. Can I get help with gnome-keyring considering it is UNDOCUMENTED.
[15:29] <FoolsRun> .... wow
[15:29] <nyuszika7h> Hi, is it possible to make figlet create a smaller text?
[15:29] <nyuszika7h> s/text/ascii art/
[15:29] <geckosenator> IsoLinCHiP: that is almost certain to fail unless the client was designed for it
[15:30] <atlef> the hindsight of a dragon. :-)
[15:30] <Pici> nyuszika7h: yes, see the manpage, there are other 'fonts' that you can choose.
[15:30] <geckosenator> IsoLinCHiP: but it probably works fine for separate torrent files
[15:30] <Logan_> rww: should a factoid be made for Gnome 3?
[15:31] <kermit> should i care about page allocation failures that show up in my logs every few hours?
[15:31] <AZora> Brand new install. Prompted by gnome-keyring no less than 4 times by trying to use epiphany. Will not accept my user password. There is no manpage, the Ubuntu forums recommend using software that isn't installed (yet?) in 10.10.  Help indicates this was written by a guy at redhat, which explains a lot. Standard bot advice?
[15:31] <IsoLinCHiP> geckosenator: well if you have the HD space you could just store it in seperate folders and let the clients hookup locally, then they would exchange their parts via for example lo
[15:32] <ikonia> AZora: what ?
[15:32] <AZora> Brand new install. Prompted by gnome-keyring no less than 4 times by trying to use epiphany. Will not accept my user password. There is no manpage, the Ubuntu forums recommend using software that isn't installed (yet?) in 10.10.  Help indicates this was written by a guy at redhat, which explains a lot. Standard bot advice? Found a 2.5 year old post claiming that if I delete the keyring user file that the system won't login [boot] anymore.
[15:32] <ikonia> AZora: what version of ubuntu are you using
[15:32] <ikonia> AZora: don't repeat it
[15:33] <ikonia> AZora: what version of ubuntu are you using
[15:33] <FoolsRun> I'm not the only one with this Alien problem!  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alien/+bug/730236
[15:33] <AZora> #1 I have no password configured aside from user password. #2 There is not documentation on how to set a password to use the feature. #3 there is no documentation on how to remove the feature.
[15:33] <ikonia> FoolsRun: alien is a high risk option
[15:33] <geckosenator> IsoLinCHiP: good point
[15:33] <AZora> I'm using 10.10 as i said 3 times in my ignored and repeated post.
[15:33] <ikonia> AZora: I'll ask one last time
[15:33] <ikonia> AZora: you've not said that
[15:33] <geckosenator> IsoLinCHiP: I dont really have the space but that could work it would have slowdowns too
[15:33] <ikonia> AZora: ok - what software is the forum suggesting you install that isn't installed yet
[15:34] <FoolsRun> ikonia: Lotus Notes sucks in many ways; one of those ways is that I only have RPMs for it :)
[15:34] <ikonia> AZora: is the password you are trying to enter for an IRC or an IM account ?
[15:34] <AZora> ikonia: back in 2008 there was a script called gnome-keyring-manager but it doesn't exist according to a fresh sudo updatedb
[15:35] <ikonia> gnome-keyring-manager does indeed exist, updatedb doesn't mean it's not installed, that just means its not in the locate path
[15:35] <dd214> In Ubuntu what is the equiv to Windows Device Manager?
[15:35] <AZora> ikonia: that's the thing, i'm using the same password and neither works. ANY password related function seems to request keyring access.
[15:35] <ikonia> AZora: so what's the password for, an IRC account, or an IM account
[15:35] <IsoLinCHiP> AZora: deleting the keyring file which pertains to browser login passwords, should not make the system unbootable. If you want to be on the safe side, make a backup. you can allways still restore that then from failsafe mode. as the terminal login does not use the gnome-keyring
[15:35] <AZora> ikonia: user = irc = im account. None of these passwords are used for the keyring
[15:35] <nyuszika7h> Pici: And where are installed fonts located?
[15:36] <ikonia> AZora: ok so what application is the password you're trying to use for
[15:36] <AZora> IsoLinCHiP: good know that advice was bunk, and I suspected so.
[15:36] <geckosenator> IsoLinCHiP: for some reason the site with the wifi aimer is down I would send a link
[15:36] <brightspark> Hi, my wireless won't turn off anymore using the hardware switch.  Can someone explain how I could do this another way?
[15:36] <Pici> nyuszika7h: /usr/share/figlet/ , you don't need to provide the full path though,just the font name.
[15:36] <AZora> ikonia: let's back up. I JUST INSTALLED 10 minutes ago. Prior to all of my other debian, ubuntu, fedora core, redhat, mandrake experience I now have a super annoying keyring prompt that accepts NO PASSWORD that I know.
[15:37] <IsoLinCHiP> AZora: "bunk"?
[15:37] <qomaik> hello
[15:37] <fairuz> Hi, How to launch an application (my own small application) with a specific priority?
[15:37] <ikonia> AZora: ok - I got that, however what's the password for (what application/account)
[15:37] <Pici> nyuszika7h: you may also want to look at the toilet package, I think it has other 'fonts' available, with similar behavior as figlet.
[15:37] <AZora> IsoLinCHiP: s/bunk/"crap advice"
[15:37] <ohsix> fairuz: with "nice"
[15:37] <qomaik> where i can found the userChrome.css file in ubuntu , i use firefox4
[15:37] <ohsix> AZora: did you try no password?
[15:37] <fairuz> ohsix: i thought nice is for running process?
[15:37] <FoolsRun> Thanks for your help, everyone! Apparently it wasn't a can't-find-the-debs problem, it was an architecture problem! I really appreciate everyone's input.
[15:37] <mads-> In what way are files sorted in a directory? I mean if I do a "ls -Ul" the files appears in a different order than "ls -l"
[15:38] <FoolsRun> have a nice day
[15:38] <AZora> ikonia: most recent example, Empathy 2.32 and IRC
[15:38] <ohsix> AZora: you might have to trash the keyring and make a new one that matches your login
[15:38] <ohsix> fairuz: that's renice
[15:38] <IsoLinCHiP> geckosenator: Hmm, too bad, might you send me the link anyway? maybe itll be up sometime in the future :)
[15:38] <fairuz> ohsix: oh that's renice. ok thanks
[15:38] <ikonia> AZora: ok - what is your IRC account you are trying to authenticate
[15:38] <ohsix> AZora: what you're looking for is seahorse
[15:39] <AZora> ohsix: I JUST STARTED. I'll delete it *again*. Maybe you think i should format the hard drive again and maybe that would be "clean" enough?
[15:39] <ohsix> AZora: if your keyring password was your login password it would have been unlocked already
[15:39] <fairuz> ohsix: do you think i can mix taskset and nice? something like taskset 01 nice -n -10 ./myapp
[15:39] <AZora> maybe 3 formats later the keyring will work perfectly!
[15:39] <nyuszika7h> Pici: I get "Unable to open font file"
[15:39] <qomaik> i'm not found chrome folder
[15:39] <anonboots> There seems to be a programming error in aptdaemon, the software that allows you to install/remove software and to perform other package management related tasks. Please report this error at http://launchpad.net/aptdaemon/+filebug and retry. <- WHAT DO?
[15:39] <Pici> nyuszika7h: What are you typing?
[15:39] <nyuszika7h> 646-ca
[15:39] <ikonia> AZora: what is the name of the IRC account you are trying to authenticate ?
[15:39] <IsoLinCHiP> AZora: the gnome-keyring-manager binarys name should be seahorse, there you should be able to delete the 'login' keychain and if wanted create a new one
[15:39] <Loshki> mads-: if you check the 'man ls' page, it says "Sort entries alphabetically if none of -cftuvSUX nor --sort." -U means unsorted...
[15:39] <AZora> AZora. I hit cancel FOUR times and then I was allowed to use the application
[15:40] <nyuszika7h> Oh, that's an FLC file, not FLF...
[15:40] <ikonia> AZora: please respond, what is the name of the IRC account you're trying to authenticate
[15:40] <qomaik> any idea !
[15:40] <dtcrshr> does sis900 eth boards work at all in ubuntu?
[15:40] <AZora> ikonia: for the third time THIS account. AZora
[15:40] <ikonia> dtcrshr: poor support
[15:40] <Logan_> !please | qomaik
[15:40] <ikonia> AZora: ok, are you using empathy now ?
[15:40] <AZora> yes
[15:41] <dtcrshr> oh crap. thats the only notebook the teacher let to the students group. is there a turnarround for it to work?
[15:41] <teemo> hi, in my Grub2 grub.cfg file, i have (hd0,gpt2) as the root for my windows installation, id like to set that to (hd0,gpt3), how can i do that?
[15:41] <qomaik> ubottu: ok !
[15:41] <ohsix> AZora: you can keep the color commentary to yourself, something strange is going on
[15:41] <AZora> and the only way I was able to use Empathy for IRC was to hit cancel FOUR times on the keyring
[15:41] <ikonia> AZora: if you connect using say xchat does it prompt you for the password in the keyring, or does it ask you for the password within xchat
[15:41] <geckosenator> IsoLinCHiP: I wanted to test it, but I can't, try this: http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f13/automatic-wifi-aimer-56935.html
[15:42] <ohsix> AZora: when it creates a new keyring it should be asking for a _new_ password; so at the very least you should have been able to enter a new one already if you deleted it
[15:43] <ohsix> AZora: apps want to use the keyring for storage, you can't just hit cancel and expect it to work, or refuse to enter a password and accept the storage to work
[15:43] <mia158> Is there an official hardware compatibility list for ubuntu 10.10? I am interested in a wireless keyboards/mouse for my Dell optiplex GX220 tower
[15:43] <ikonia> !hcl | mia158
[15:43] <AZora> ikonia: currently doing apt-get update in the background. Unable to install xchat until that completes. I found seahorse via the System Preferences previously. Is this purely a public key management system?
[15:43] <mia158> thank you
[15:43] <IsoLinCHiP> geckosenator: works perfectly, nice boat/ship? ;)
[15:43] <ikonia> AZora: great, let me know when you can test it
[15:43] <ohsix> AZora: it's the interface to your keyring
[15:44] <geckosenator> IsoLinCHiP: not perfect, I am still too lazy to fix the wrap bug
[15:44] <AZora> you're assuming prior knowledge about a completely undocumented app.
[15:44] <IsoLinCHiP> geckosenator: hehe :) And the waterproofing also still looks improoveable ;D
[15:44] <ohsix> AZora: it's not, and i said you can do without the color commentary; if you don't see something or know where to look that doesn't mean it doesn't exist
[15:45] <anonboots> When I attempt to install google chrome, I get this error. "There seems to be a programming error in aptdaemon, the software that allows you to install/remove software and to perform other package management related tasks. Please report this error at http://launchpad.net/aptdaemon/+filebug and retry."
[15:45] <surskitty> A few days ago, something got borked during an update, so I reinstalled 10.10 32-bit Desktop, leaving /home afaik untouched.  Since then, my laptop will start to hibernate but will stop with just a blinking `_` and never actually shut down.  How do I fix this?
[15:45] <ohsix> AZora: cooler heads prevail
[15:45] <qomaik> so where is it guy the chrome.css
[15:46] <compdoc> I updated a fresh install of 10.10 to 11.4 alpha - looks good
[15:46] <ikonia> compdoc: then jump into #ubuntu+1 if you want to talk about it
[15:46] <AZora> ohsix: usually I am cooler, but being told I didn't give the infor provided when the median number of times I have already provided that information was 4. It is a pet peeve to repeat myself
[15:47] <ShawnRisk> When I use Gmail on Firefox, I can't select multiple files to add emails.  Does this have to do with flash or something else?
[15:47] <sie> I lvextend'ed my partition, but the size in df -h didn't change, why? :/
[15:47] <osse> I usually set up an SSH tunnel by running "ssh -fN hostname" but for some reason it doesn't work if I add that command as a startup application. Does anyone know how I can do this?
[15:47] <Fearless13> ikonia: soon MOTU?
[15:47] <ikonia> AZora: read what you're saying, you're not providing the info
[15:47] <IsoLinCHiP> Btw is the fglrx driver broken for anyone else atm? Not sure since when, but I suddenly get a system freeze when trying to start X with fglrx enabled, not even the SysReq Key work
[15:47] <geckosenator> IsoLinCHiP: want to go in buisness selling these?
[15:47] <GreenNerd> I'm looking for a "good" app that works as a stand-alone YouTube player.  Any suggestions?
[15:47] <ikonia> Fearless13: sorry what ?
[15:47] <Fearless13> ikonia: lol nothing pal..
[15:47] <benzaldehyde> GreenNerd: i use totem
[15:48] <ohsix> AZora: well, if things were as you say, barring extremely odd circumstances, really beyond consideration; the situation is credulous
[15:48] <geckosenator> IsoLinCHiP:  I suspect it would cost $50 to make and sell for $500 in quantities
[15:48] <ikonia> AZora: sit tight, and prod us when you are in a position to test with xchat
[15:48] <IsoLinCHiP> geckosenator: Hehe, nope, but maybe youd like to submit the project to make magazine? Maybe theyd be interested in featuring it?
[15:49] <dtcrshr> ikonia, is it in ubuntu / kernel or there is some distro that supports sis900? it would be awesome if i didnt need to put xp to the students
[15:49] <ikonia> dtcrshr: sorry, no
[15:49] <ikonia> dtcrshr: there is support, it's just very very poor and basic
[15:50] <xgt001> hey every1
[15:50] <iceroot> dtcrshr: sis900 is supported minimum since 2.6.18
[15:50] <ohsix> ikonia: seahorse should suffice, it will try and access the keyring too
[15:50] <xgt001> i need compiz autorun everytime in gfx mode ... i have ati drivers
[15:50] <AZora> Ihave managed to get sis900 working previously
[15:50] <xgt001> i need to type compiz --replace manually everytime i need desktop effects
[15:50] <AZora> but it was XWindow and not 3D or opengl
[15:50] <xgt001> so pls help out
[15:50] <dtcrshr> ikonia, dont mind poor and basic, even if it gets web access only to update / install ubuntu packages
[15:51] <dtcrshr> but now it dont work, at all
[15:51] <brightspark> I've had a recurring problem over the last few months where the wireless button doesn't work; ie the computer is stuck with wireless either on or off as it was when it booted.  The sleep button doesn't work either, and if I select suspend from the logout menu, the screen goes black (with the backlight still on, so not pitch black) and the computer gets very hot and the fan starts going like mad.  Only way to fix this state of
[15:51] <brightspark>  affairs is hold down the power key.  Does anyone know the fix for this set of problems?  A restart may, but does not always, resolve things.
[15:51] <dtcrshr> odd is that in the installation proccess ubuntu used the network to download packages
[15:51] <IsoLinCHiP> xgt001: did you try setting 'visual effects' in the apperance settings?
[15:52] <xgt001> i am using 11.04 so it doesnt have that option.... any other options having same effect?? pls help out in this forum only
[15:52] <benzaldehyde> brightspark: try /etc/init.d/networking restart
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> !natty | xgt001
[15:52] <GOMI> need some help with nvidia driver i think
[15:52] <IsoLinCHiP> brightspark: sounds like acpi trouble, might want to google for you laptop brand and modelnumber together with acpi, maybe youll get some tips on specific kernel parameters
[15:52] <GOMI> it keeps me out
[15:52] <GOMI> need to always loggin in
[15:53] <root__> Hello
[15:53] <PhoenixSTF> hi
[15:53] <GOMI> i installed that additional driver , but still not working right
[15:53] <pumeust> i'm using testdisk and it says boot sector status is ok and backup boot sector status is ok and 'sectors are identical'. but when i click on 'list' it says 'can't open filesystem. Filesystem seems damaged'?
[15:54] <brightspark> IsoLinCHiP, thanks.  Will do.  What does APCI stand for, by the way?
[15:54] <brightspark> *ACPI
[15:54] <compdoc> pumeust, how about the smart data - any reallocated sectors?
[15:55] <GOMI> anybody had any problems with NVIDIA drivers ??
[15:55] <lampe2> if i reinstall ubuntu can i just copy the .ssh folder to set it up?
[15:55] <pumeust> compdoc, how do i access smart data?
[15:55] <ruan> GOMI: nope, i can play all my 3d games fine
[15:55] <IsoLinCHiP> brightspark: Hmm, People Cant Memorize Computer Industry Acronyms? Oh, no wait, that was PCMCIA, sorry gotta pass on that ;oP
[15:55] <benzaldehyde> GOMI: there are a lot of nvidia problems in the beta room, perhaps give them a try #ubuntu+1
[15:55] <compdoc> pumeust, you using gnome?
[15:55] <GOMI> oke thnx
[15:55] <pumeust> compdoc,  yes
[15:56] <liekzomg> nub question, should i disable write caching if i'm running dm-crypt/lvm/ext4 and what kind of performance suffers most eg. DBs?
[15:56] <compdoc> open the Disk Utility, and select your drvie from the list, then the smart button
[15:56] <pumeust> compdoc,  oops i accidentally clicked on ok somewhere and now i'm taken back to 'Analyse'. do i have to start over?
[15:57] <pumeust> compdoc,  oh ok hold on
[15:57] <root__> Hello anybody in here who can show me how to use this backtrack 4
[15:57] <compdoc> dont know what Analyse is from
[15:57] <rumpe1> root__, backtrack!=ubuntu... wrong channel
[15:57] <ikonia> root__: the guys in the #backtrack-linux channel can
[15:58] <pumeust> compdoc,  'analyse' is the first step, after i make disk selection
[15:58] <root__> Guys please help me how to use back track 4
[15:58] <ikonia> root__: the channel for help is called #backtrack-linux
[15:58] <ikonia> root__: join that channel and ask
[15:58] <dtcrshr> ikonia, can you recommennd any distro that would make this notebook usable?
[15:58] <ikonia> dtcrshr: no
[15:59] <root__> Where can i find that
[15:59] <compdoc> youre running the gnome Disk Utility? I dont see an analyse
[15:59] <ikonia> root__: type "/join #backtrack-linux"
[15:59] <lampe2> hey i wanne reinstall ubuntu and can i just copy the .ssh folder to restore it on the fresh isntall?
[15:59] <ikonia> lampe2: sure
[15:59] <lampe2> thx ikonia
[16:00] <root__> "/join backtrack-linux
[16:00] <ikonia> root__: without the "
[16:00] <pumeust> compdoc,  no sorry that was on testdisk. ok now i'm looking at disk utility and it says reallocated sector count assessment is 'good', but i didnt  run the 'run self-test'
[16:00] <root__> 0k
[16:00] <compdoc> no need to run the self test
[16:00]  * dtcrshr bangs his head against the wall
[16:00] <root__> join back track-linux
[16:00] <tx54> hello
[16:01] <ikonia> root__: /join #backtrack-linux
[16:01] <compdoc> pumeust, no reallocated sectors? no pending sectors? any reported uncorrectable?
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> root__: also, running IRC clients as root is not very smart at all
[16:01] <Fearless13> ikonia: go pm plz
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> qq guys, what is the command to run the change display properties please??
[16:02] <root__> IKonia
[16:02] <root__> please come pm
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> asin the theme and decorators etc
[16:02] <benzaldehyde> ActionParsnip: he is probably using live backtrack, it defaults to root:toor
[16:02] <ikonia> root__: no
[16:02] <compdoc> pumeust, if the disk shows healthy, then maybe you corrupted the drive by shutting off the system power
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> benzaldehyde: I know but its bad for security
[16:02] <root__> They say i have been banned
[16:02] <root__> I dont know why
[16:02] <DasEi> !css | ActionParsnip
[16:02] <ikonia> root__: you're not banned you just need to register, ask for help in #freenode
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> DasEi: huh?
[16:03] <root__> #freenode
[16:03] <pumeust> compdoc,  'current pending sector count' says 'N/A...normalized: 200, worst: 200, threshold: 0, value'...
[16:03] <root__> Where is it please
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> root__: type:      /join #freenode
[16:03] <bajk-tragbar> for openoffice to work with qt graphicssystem raster is it enough to set the QT_GRAPHICSSYSTEM env variable to native if I start openoffie and then set it back to raster if I close it? or do I really need to log out?
[16:03] <ikonia> root__: /join #freenode
[16:03] <compdoc> pumeust, the Value is what you need to be concerned about
[16:03] <IsoLinCHiP> Does anyone know where the monitor settings are stored as set by the gnome monitor applet? (They arent written to xorg.conf)
[16:03] <DasEi>  ActionParsnip: ccsm, irc as root__ , hehe
[16:04] <pumeust> compdoc,  'reallocated sector count' assessemt is 'good, 'normalized: 200, worst: 200, threshold: 140, value: 0 sectors'
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> DasEi: can you edit your menu and get the command which is ran when the appearence app is clicked, please dude
[16:04] <compdoc> good
[16:04] <DasEi>  ActionParsnip: see above
[16:04] <root__> Can anybody help me
[16:04] <root__> AM i in freenode?
[16:04] <DasEi> !info ccsm
[16:04] <pumeust> compdoc,  yes i had to do shut off the computer at times
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> root__: you  are on the freenode network, just not the channel
[16:04] <AZora> root__: learn what the internet is before you try to hack it.
[16:05] <DasEi> !ccsm
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> DasEi: its the standard gnome one, not ccsm
[16:05] <pumeust> compdoc,  because i couldnt shut it down normally
[16:05] <rumpe1> root__, just ask
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> DasEi: where you choose icon themes and  such
[16:05] <compdoc> pumeust, well at least the drive's smart thinks the disk hardware is healthy, so you just need to concentrate on repairing the partition
[16:05] <DasEi>  ActionParsnip: gnome-appearance-properties
[16:05] <gedO> Hey guys
[16:05] <gedO> I have a problme
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> DasEi: cool, cheers matey :D:D
[16:06] <DasEi> :)
[16:06] <gedO> My hdd is faling and gives me error "reallocated sectors count"
[16:06] <gedO> do you know any tools on ubntun :D
[16:06] <gedO> do you know any tools on ubntun?
[16:06] <compdoc> gedO, how many reallocated sectors?
[16:06] <iceroot> gedO: buy a new one
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> gedO: i'd get a new one
[16:07] <pumeust> testdisk has option to 'rebuild BS' and 'repair MFT' but i dont know if its safe to click on those
[16:07] <gedO> 2033
[16:07] <compdoc> yikes
[16:07] <compdoc> time for a new drive
[16:07] <compdoc> back up!
[16:07] <gedO> okey, but how thous sectors come bad?
[16:07] <DasEi> gedO: 1.) not full ? 2) fsck it unmounted 3.) smartmontools 4.)testdisk 5.) search n mark bad blocks
[16:07] <compdoc> gedO, ever drop the system?
[16:08] <gedO> several times last mounth
[16:08] <iceroot> gedO: backup + new hdd is the only good option
[16:08] <compdoc> most times, drives just die on their own
[16:08] <pumeust> compdoc, no i dont know how to check on reallocated sectors other than what i just typed
[16:08] <DasEi> gedO: if it's new, warranty ?
[16:08] <compdoc> smartctl -a /dev/sda (or whatever device)
[16:08] <gedO> I have warrantry
[16:08] <gedO> fot it
[16:09] <gedO> for*
[16:09] <mbeierl> gedO: a tiny bit of dust inside the drive, a shock to the drive, heat, too many power up / power off cycles.  all these things wear down a drive
[16:09] <gedO> but how they becaome bad?
[16:09] <DasEi> gedO: then test by smartmontools, and send in with result
[16:09] <ohsix> gedO: temperature, and shock
[16:10] <DasEi> gedO: happens sometimes
[16:10] <liekzomg> how do i tell whether write cache is enabled on my system?
[16:10] <compdoc> gedO, it just happens
[16:10] <gedO> whene I had windows installed
[16:10] <benjo> kawan bagaimana cara masuk ke sistem operasi lain??
[16:10] <ohsix> gedO: if the temperature is high, around 55 or more, the bits eventually get annealed right off the platter and become unreadable; but if you're getting reallocated sectors it means _write_ failed, and it had to go somewhere else
[16:10] <DasEi> gedO: they all have bad secs, brandnew, and are automatically reallocated, that goes over their lifetime (they got spare ones)
[16:11] <DasEi> gedO:  test by smartmontools, and send in with result
[16:11] <gedO> okey, going to test with smartmontools
[16:11] <ohsix> gedO: write failures are more insidious, which is why it's such an important number
[16:11] <ohsix> gedO: post the output of smartctl -x /dev/(whatever device) to a pastebin before you start running tests please
[16:12] <AnubArack> Why are the links from Xchat going to Firefox when Chome is the default browser (and other apps open links on it) ?
[16:12] <DasEi> AnubArack: you can set it in the messengers itself
[16:12] <DasEi> curl the menu..
[16:13] <AnubArack> DasEi, i don't follow ...
[16:13] <benzaldehyde> benjo: you won't get much help hacking into anoter system
[16:13] <DasEi> AnubArack: you can set it in the messengers itself, which browser they use for links
[16:13] <gedO> ohsix: I gan't get that program
[16:13] <DasEi> xchat=irc messenger
[16:14] <ohsix> AnubArack: xchat is configured to open the web browser with the given url; not the url with something like xdg-open, or gnome-open (which you can set, and the desktop "default browser" settings will work as expected)
[16:14] <AnubArack> DasEi, oh, i see
[16:14] <benjo> how do I get into another operating system?? please help
[16:14] <IKSSE2113> o_O
[16:15] <DasEi> benjo: virtual ? dualboot ? connection ?
[16:15] <compdoc> benjo, whats wrong with the old one?
[16:15] <galamar> can anyone help me with hydra. or do you know the best place to get help. i can get it run but it never produces results even when i use it on my own accounts
[16:15] <douglasrj21> I installed Ubuntu 10.10 inside VirtualBox on native Mandriva. Please how can I install this Innotek Systemberatung Gmbh VirtualBox Graphics Adapter?
[16:16] <IsoLinCHiP> douglasrj21: install the virtualbox geust additions
[16:16] <teemo> anyone on how to set the root for my windows grub2 entry from /dev/sda2 to /dev/sda3?
[16:17] <Stronze> i did lshw and i see there is a display problem with some info and dont know what it is
[16:17] <DasEi> teemo: dualboot ? boot in ubu, run os-prober
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> douglasrj21: in the to bar in virtualbox there is the item to add guest additions
[16:17] <Stronze> http://paste.ubuntu.com/590809/
[16:17] <benzaldehyde> teemo: i do not know. maybe /etc/fstab
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> douglasrj21: http://www.dedoimedo.com/images/computers/2008/virtualbox-install-guest-additions.jpg
[16:18] <folor> hmm
[16:18] <teemo> DasEi, how do i run os-prober?
[16:18] <folor> hmm
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> douglasrj21: i'd ask in #vbox its more specific to your issue
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> teemo: sudo os-prober
[16:18] <pkkm> How to set a different nameserver for one user?
[16:18] <DasEi> teemo: sudo os-prober
[16:18] <benjo> DasEi: dualboot, can u give me ur opinion??
[16:18] <DasEi> teemo: nothing wrong with it
[16:18] <erUSUL> pkkm: dns's are system wide setting
[16:19] <benzaldehyde> pkkm: i think /etc/hosts or hostname handles that
[16:19] <AnubArack> DasEi, can you point me in the direction of the config file/menu to set Chrome as defaul browser in xchat? On google i only find windows refferences
[16:19] <Bojje> Hi, so I'm trying to get rutorrent up and runing, yet I get the following error, "Module scgi not properly enabled: /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/scgi.load is a real file, not touching it" everytime i send the following command, "a2enmod scgi". I don't really know what info would be relevant, so I am just hoping somebody might be able to help
[16:19] <douglasrj21> ActionParsnip: Thank you, I'm reading some info about this guest additions =]
[16:19] <teemo> i have 2 windows installed, 32-bit and 64-bit, 32 being on dev/sda2 and 64-bit on dev/sda3, i want it use the sda3
[16:20] <gedO> guys I can't get smartmontools installed ;?
[16:20] <benjo> not my intention. I want to do a DDos attack?? is there anything that can help
[16:20] <teemo> os-prober causes it to find sda2
[16:20] <gedO> guys I can't get smartmontools installed ;?
[16:20] <benjo> not my intention. I want to do a DDos attack?? is there anything that can help
[16:20] <gedO> guys I can't get smartmontools installed ;/
[16:20] <FloodBot1> gedO: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:21] <ayecee> benjo: I don't think this is the right channel for that.
[16:21] <DasEi> AnubArack: settings > advanced > url handlers...
[16:21] <DasEi> AnubArack: settings > advanced > url handlers... ( in xchat GUI)
[16:21] <AnubArack> DasEi, that much i found :(
[16:21] <folorn> anyone around who's installed tor properly care to tell me what im doing wrong or point me to a program that does the same thing which is more better off supported?
[16:21] <compdoc> gedO, sudo apt-get install smartmontools
[16:22] <rss> hi, text rendering in firefox is broken, there are gaps in the text
[16:22] <N3> folorn
[16:22] <N3> pm me
[16:22] <DasEi> AnubArack: so add / delete to your need
[16:22] <benzaldehyde> teemo: you can let windows handle boot up of a dual or multi boot system.
[16:22] <gribouille> hi
[16:22] <Stronze> i did LSHW and it seems there is a problem but i dont know what it is..  http://paste.ubuntu.com/590809/
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> folorn: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Tor
[16:22] <gribouille> what do I have to do if I want grub1 to chainload grub2 ?
[16:22] <rss> how to fix the text rendering in firefox?
[16:23] <N3> forlorn: your trying to install tor/
[16:23] <N3> forlorn: your trying to install tor?
[16:23] <DasEi> Stronze: which line you speak of ?
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> rss: what version of firefox and what is the output of:  lsb_release -d    Thanks
[16:23] <teemo> benzaldehyde, i know, but id rather grub did it, im also booting snow leopard, i just want to know the command to tell it to use sda3 not sda2 for windows
[16:23] <IsoLinCHiP> Bojje: a2enmod is telling you that you allready have a real file in said location as opposed to a symlink, which it would create poiting to a file in the mods-available directory, so either delete the file in mods-enabled and run a2enmod again, or skip the step for a2enmod
[16:23] <gedO> compdoc, Unable to lock directory /var/cache/apt/archives/
[16:24] <compdoc> gedO, you must have the package manager running
[16:24] <gibbster> I just replaced my motherboard, and now I'm getting grub error 25. Can anyone lend a hand?
[16:24] <Stronze> dasei - near the bottom, 228
[16:24] <Bojje> Thank you IsoLinChip, you are awesome :)
[16:24] <AnubArack> DasEi, I'm still a miss to what I should imput in the command line ... :(
[16:24] <rss> ActionParsnip: Ubuntu 10.10
[16:24] <Bojje> So, I can just proceed?
[16:24] <rss> ActionParsnip: Ubuntu 10.10
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> rss: ok and the version of firefox you are running?
[16:24] <rss> ActionParsnip: Ubuntu 10.10
[16:24] <DasEi> AnubArack: usr/bin/chromium-browser %U
[16:24] <gedO> compdoc, tell more
[16:25] <bilal> is there any software in ubuntu like roboform in windows????
[16:25] <orbarron> gm all -- does anyone know why I can't install ubuntu 64bit on Dell XPS 630i? -- 10.4, 10.10, 11.04 -beta does not work from CD, DVD, or USB install
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> rss: quit pasting, its scrolling the channe;l
[16:25] <gibbster> My grub-foo is weak, and I need some hand holding...
[16:25] <rss> ActionParsnip: sorry, it got pasted too many times
[16:25] <AnubArack> DasEi, ty! I'll try it now, though I'll have to change it a bit since i use dev build
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> rss: yes, once is enough
[16:25] <mathmax> Hello
[16:25] <N3> sup
[16:25] <benjo> not my intention. I want to do a DDos attack?? is there anything that can help
[16:25] <Magi^scr> could your new board come with a bios that has a switch between atapi modes ide and achppi?*
[16:26] <Logan_> bilal: "RoboForm Lite works in Firefox and Chrome on Linux and UNIX platforms."
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> orbarron: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> rss: you still havent answered my question.....
[16:26] <rss> ActionParsnip: 3.6.16 and the latest release
[16:26] <rss> both have same problem
[16:26] <orbarron> ActionParsnip: yup
[16:26] <tsimpson> benjo: no
[16:26] <GreenNerd> I'm looking for a "good" app that works as a stand-alone YouTube player.  Any suggestions?
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> rss: do you mean firefox 4?
[16:26] <rss> ActionParsnip: yes
[16:26] <gribouille> what do I have to do if I want grub1 to chainload grub2 ?
[16:26] <DasEi> Stronze: I'd think just a malformed output, if scary fsck sda1 , when unmounted (life-cd or such)
[16:27] <bilal> logan,i need for chromium????tell me the software name plzzzzz?
[16:27] <Magi^scr> http://magizian.hopto.org
[16:27] <gibbster> Hey, does anyone know how to fix a grub error 25?
[16:27] <IsoLinCHiP> gribouille: Sorry for asking, but first, why would you want to chainload grub2 from 1 rather than replacing it?
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> rss: may help: http://www.warriorforum.com/website-design/40711-poor-text-display-firefox.html
[16:27] <gribouille> IsoLinCHiP, because grub2 doesn't work with windows xp
[16:27] <Logan_> bilal: https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/kidhjpmgjfbkmcfpfakmdddddgfbhahj
[16:28] <benjo> not my intention. I want to do a DDos attack?? is there anything that can help
[16:28] <BajK> I cannot install the package telepathy-gabble, it says http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu matty/main telepathy-gabble i386 0.11.8-1ubuntu1 404 Not Found
[16:28] <IsoLinCHiP> GreenNerd: Take a look at Miro, I dont know if it meets your standard of good, but it has the function iirc ;)
[16:28] <Stronze> dasei - you had me until you went to the shortened letters.
[16:28] <tjiggi_fo> gribouille, grub2 works with XP on two boxes for me
[16:28] <GreenNerd> Does Miro play YouTube?
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> bilal: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:chromium-daily/ppa; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -y install chromium-browser       will give you the daily build :)
[16:29] <gedO> how to install smartmontools
[16:29] <gedO> ?
[16:29] <gribouille> tjiggi_fo, but not for me
[16:29] <IsoLinCHiP> gribouille: what do you mean, 'doesnt work with xp'? I know of no reason it shouldnt
[16:29] <gedO> apt-get install isn't working
[16:29] <Logan_> ActionParsnip: he meant that he wants the RoboForm extension for Chromium
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> gedO: sudo apt-get install smartmontools
[16:29] <nyuszika7h> Hi, how can I install MySQL? 'sudo apt-get install mysql' didn't work.
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> Logan_: i see
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> !mysql
[16:29] <GreenNerd> gedO, Try sudo
[16:29] <gedO> ActionParsnip, getting error
[16:29] <Logan_> gedO: what is the error?
[16:30] <DasEi> gribouille: got an answer already ?
[16:30] <gedO> Unable to lock the download directory
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> gedO: can you pastebin the error you are getting
[16:30] <gribouille> IsoLinCHiP, each time I boot XP, it wipes grub2 completely
[16:30] <gribouille> DasEi, no
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> gedO: do you have software centre open, or are updates running?
[16:30] <Logan_> gedO: sudo pkill apt
[16:30] <nyuszika7h> ActionParsnip: Can't I install them manually?
[16:30] <DasEi> Stronze: please rephrase, I don't understand
[16:30] <IsoLinCHiP> gribouille: did you install grub2 into the MBR?
[16:30] <gedO> no
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> nyuszika7h: thats all I know, should be able to
[16:30] <gribouille> IsoLinCHiP, yes
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> !aptfix | gedO
[16:31] <gedO> Logan, no
[16:31] <Logan_> gedO: why?
[16:31] <Polah> nyuszika7h, sudo apt-get install mysql-server
[16:31] <GreenNerd> Miro is awesome!  Thanks for the suggestion!
[16:31] <DasEi> gribouille: gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst , there 3 lines : title My Grub2 Ubuntu in (hd0,0) root (hd0,8) chainloader +1
[16:31] <IsoLinCHiP> gribouille: interesting. well, odd actually ;) Havent seen that yet, and Ive done allot of weird stuff with grub/2 ;)
[16:32] <gedO> error processing man-db (--configure):
[16:32] <gedO>  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[16:32] <DasEi> gribouille:  Ubuntu in (hd0,0)
[16:32] <Stronze> dasei -  if scary fsck sda1 <-- didnt understand that. im still learning the nuts and bolts here so stupid talk helped :D
[16:32] <teemo> if im not supposed to edit grub.cfg in grub2, what do i edit then?
[16:32] <mathmax> hi, could anyone tell me how to uninstall nginx?
[16:32] <nyuszika7h> root
[16:32] <gribouille> DasEi, but I managed to get it automatically
[16:32] <DasEi> gribouille: root (hd0,X) change xaccordingly
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> teemo: you edit the config files, grub.cfg is generated using the config files
[16:32] <IsoLinCHiP> teemo: /etc/grub.d/ is where you can make customizations
[16:33] <leg3nd> Stronze, that just runs a filesystem check on your partition which is /dev/sda1
[16:33] <gibbster> After replacing my motherboard, I'm getting a grub error 25. Any advice?
[16:33] <DasEi> gribouille:  chainloader +1
[16:33] <DasEi> !info fsck | stronze
[16:33] <DasEi> !fsck
[16:34] <Polah> gibbster: Ask in #grub.
[16:34] <gibbster> Polah: thanks, will do
[16:34] <Psycho_Mario> is it possible to install gnome-panel on a commandline install system without nautilus and the whole rest of gnome?
[16:34] <phonex01> how can make my Partitions be mounted automatically when Ubuntu is start ?
[16:34] <AnubArack> DasEi, it didn't work :(
[16:34] <Polah> gibbster: Apparently that's due to an unrecognised command
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> PhoenixSTF: add them in /etc/fstab
[16:34] <IsoLinCHiP> phonex01: edit /etc/fstab for example
[16:35] <ActionParsnip> PhoenixSTF: the mountpoint folder must exist
[16:35] <DasEi> gribouille:  idk if that's still an option, in the beginning of grub 2 there was a choice for keeping old and make it chainload, I rather now if that is still an option nor possible, but can do manually as showed
[16:35] <PhoenixSTF> ActionParsnip, what?
[16:35] <Stronze> legend / dasei thanks. now i know what im looking for in that problem
[16:35] <PhoenixSTF> ActionParsnip, its not me m8 i dint ask for anything
[16:35] <gedO> guys, unable to install smartmontools
[16:35] <gedO> nay help?
[16:35] <gedO> any help?
[16:35] <Polah> Psycho_Mario: I imagine you'd have to install Xorg and suchlike as well and the backend GNOME stuff for the panels as well
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> PhoenixSTF: d'oh
[16:36] <phonex01> i see these things !
[16:36] <phonex01> # / was on /dev/sda1 during installation
[16:36] <phonex01> UUID=277835f9-469e-44ef-9ecd-411ed792ad0e /               ext4    errors=remount-ro 0       1
[16:36] <phonex01> # swap was on /dev/sda3 during installation
[16:36] <phonex01> UUID=caa4572a-1c3d-4073-91d9-4d29c08cae46 none            swap    sw              0       0
[16:36] <FloodBot1> phonex01: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:36] <Polah> ged0: Telling us what is actually wrong MIGHT help. i.e. an error message
[16:36] <benzaldehyde> teemo: i think you have a menu.lst
[16:36] <DasEi> Stronze: boot a live cd, run : sudo fsck /dev/sda1  on the UNmounted drive
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> phonex01: add them in /etc/fstab   the mount point must exist for the mount to work
[16:36] <Psycho_Mario> Polah: xorg is fine, and backend gnome stuff is fine too. but i dont want metacity/nautilus etc considering i dont want to use them
[16:36]  * AnubArack lol
[16:36] <Polah> phonex01, look up how to use fstab
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> phonex01: what does posting your fstab file achieve exactly?
[16:36] <DasEi> but only if scared, I'd be fine with lshw and nvm, stronze
[16:36] <phonex01> ok i will look up to see how to use fstab
[16:37] <gedO> Polah, Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[16:37] <gedO> E: Unable to lock directory /var/cache/apt/archives/
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> phonex01: why did you paste your fstab file?
[16:37] <Stronze> dasei okay. thanks
[16:37] <Polah> ged0: Are you using sudo?
[16:37] <gedO> yes
[16:37] <DasEi> AnubArack: try simply with chromium-browser
[16:37] <phonex01> why did i paste fstab file ?
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> !aptfix | gedO
[16:37] <gribouille> DasEi, how can I know it the option still exists ?
[16:37] <maco> gedO: close update mananager or software center or whatever else is open
[16:37] <mathmax> could anyone tell me how to remove nginx?
[16:37] <Polah> ged0: Is synaptic or Software Centre running?
[16:37] <Polah> or update manager
[16:37] <gedO> no
[16:38] <gedO> they are closed.
[16:38] <phonex01> to take some information about it is content !
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> mathmax: sudo apt-get --purge remove nginx
[16:38] <phonex01> got that angry man ?
[16:38] <Polah> gedO, Look in your process list just in case, or try the line from !aptfix.
[16:38] <teemo> sudo os-prober returns: /dev/sda2:Windows 7 (loader):Windows:chain - id like it to say: /dev/sda3:Windows 7 (loader):Windows:chain
[16:38] <DasEi> gribouille: try to meet jordan_u, ask in #grub, use the the grystall ball of .. boogask ;)
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> phonex01: those are te configured partitions which mount, those are of no interest, you need to add to that file, so what is already in it isn't interestin
[16:38] <Stronze> my other problem my graphics crashes and i must reboot but im pretty sure ubuntu hasnt crashed when i open graphical things such as games
[16:39] <teemo> nobody is aking on grub
[16:39] <teemo> *answering
[16:39] <gedO> Polah, what is aptfix??/
[16:39] <Polah> !aptfix | gedO
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> gedO: read the text ubottu says, there is a big command to run and it will fix it
[16:39] <kawohi> hey guys, do any of youuse irc clients?
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> kawohi: think about it
[16:39] <DasEi> if you know the partition of grub 2, these are 3 lines , so why bother , gribouille ?
[16:39] <sipior> kawohi: safe bet, in an irc channel.
[16:40] <Polah> kawohi: No, we're connected directly to the IRC network through our brains. There is no IRC clients involved
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> kawohi: we MUST do as this is an IRC channel
[16:40] <RussellAlan> I need help with my grub2,
[16:40] <Polah> !ask | RussellAlan
[16:40] <DasEi> !messenger | kawohi
[16:40] <kawohi> i mean, freenode has a web chat and theres app you can use. which one is best?
[16:40] <AnubArack> DasEi, nope. But it got me thinking ... if it's called a command who runs it ? if it's xchat then maybe it's /exec .....
[16:40] <gribouille> DasEi, normally, I install brub (version 1 or 2) on /dev/sda
[16:40] <Polah> !best | kawohi
[16:40] <RussellAlan> I downloaded startup manager so i can dual boot with windows but it won't load
[16:40] <RussellAlan> !ask | Polah to give me time to ask the question
[16:40] <Polah> RussellAlan, what do you mean startup manager? GRUB supports booting into Windows on its own
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> kawohi: there is no single best app for anything in any OS
[16:41] <phonex01> my partition name is /dev/sda1 how can i add it to the fstab list ?
[16:41] <phonex01> and what is the UUID ?
[16:41] <Polah> RussellAlan, you asked to ask a question. I was pointing out that you don't need to
[16:41] <DasEi> gribouille: right, but to keep grub1 in mbr, grub2 will have to be forced-installed elsewhere
[16:41] <DasEi> !uuid | phonex01
[16:41] <Polah> phonex01, you can get a list of partition UUIDs by doing sudo blkid
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> phonex01: run:  sudo blkid   and you can see the UUID of the partition, you can then add a line to the file and it will mount
[16:41] <mathmax> ActionParsnip : thank you, it solves my problem
[16:41] <mathmax> :)
[16:41] <RussellAlan> Polah, right but I have ubuntu as main partition, then went in and installed win7, win7 took over boot, so i fixed grub but grub didnt list win7,
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> mathmax: coolio :D
[16:42] <Polah> RussellAlan: That's a problem with your GRUB config then. I don't know how to fix it. Try asking in #grub or someone else in here
[16:42] <Kindari> Hey guys, really weird happened. Rebooted server last night for maintenance, (its a file server running samba). All of a sudden all files back to 2/25 are gone. Any ideas?
[16:42] <RussellAlan> and btw, it wasnt a question it was a statement ;-)
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> kawohi: it's like asking "what is the best colour?"
[16:42] <gribouille> DasEi, If I do apt-get install grub2, where will grub2 be installed ?
[16:43] <Stronze> my other problem my graphics crashes and i must reboot but im pretty sure ubuntu hasnt crashed when i open graphical things such as games
[16:43] <RussellAlan> heres an ubuntu question, how can i get the "Insert CD/DVD into drive for update" When I installed from pendrive?
[16:43] <DasEi> gribouille: mbr, though even there need to spec. a drive, but can also sudo apt-get install grub -f /dev/sda1 to a partition then
[16:43] <Polah> RussellAlan, do you mean it still comes up with "Insert CD/DVD..." when you're using a pendrive
[16:44] <Polah> ?
[16:44] <gribouille> DasEi, can I install grub2 in any partition ?
[16:44] <DasEi> gribouille: yes
[16:45] <DasEi> gribouille: will give some will give some warnings, but is possible
[16:45] <DasEi> warnings*
[16:45] <gribouille> DasEi, whatv does the -f option mean ?
[16:45] <RussellAlan> Polah, no, should I have the pendrive inserted and try to do the update?
[16:45] <DasEi> force
[16:46] <itilious> who wants to recommend to me the BEST appearance skin/theme for ubuntu?
[16:46] <DasEi> !best
[16:46] <leg3nd> DasEi, unless its a seperate boot partition isnt it supposed to just be /dev/sda? without the 1
[16:46] <Polah> RussellAlan: Why can't you update through Update Manager?
[16:46] <gribouille> DasEi, the command should be sudo apt-get install grub2 -f /dev/sda1 ?
[16:47] <phonex01> guys can i found a calculator for password hash used in shadow file ?
[16:47] <Polah> leg3nd: Yes. Should be just /dev/sda if you don't want a specific partition. i.e grub-install --root-directory=/media/ubuntudrive /dev/sda
[16:47] <DasEi> gribouille: 1) see above 2) on current distros grub is grub2, so grub
[16:47] <RussellAlan> Polah, it asks me to insert the disc
[16:47] <Polah> phonex01: Why would you want to do that?
[16:47] <Polah> RussellAlan, I don't know then, sorry.
[16:47] <toehio2> how to I remove a service from startup in Ubuntu 10.04? Things have changed since earlier versions, and I am no longer to remove services from start up like I was used to.
[16:47] <leg3nd> Polah, thnx thought so
[16:47] <DasEi> !grub-common
[16:47] <DasEi> !info grub-common
[16:47] <phonex01> today my professor forget his password on ubuntu and he asked me to fix it
[16:47] <gribouille> DasEi, and for grub legacy, what is the name of the package ?
[16:48] <phonex01> i edited shadow file
[16:48] <DasEi> !info grub-pc
[16:48] <phonex01> and i but the hash of blank password
[16:48] <phonex01> it is worked
[16:48] <Polah> phonex01: What do you mean you put the hash of a blank password?
[16:48] <phonex01> but what about other password ?
[16:48] <DasEi> !info grub-legacy
[16:48] <phonex01> wait i will show you
[16:49] <RussellAlan> is there a way to boot to diff /sda?
[16:49] <Polah> Yeah specify which one would be the root directory to have grub put into
[16:50] <Polah> Or select a different partition in the GRUB menu
[16:50] <david5345> I am using Thunderbird:Autoconfiguration:ConfigFileFormat to configure my users thunderbird accounts, how do I disabled all junk mail filters ?
[16:50] <gribouille> DasEi, why doesn't grub legacy find my Windows XP ?
[16:50] <phonex01> Polah you there ?
[16:51] <phonex01> see this line " phonex01:$6$3pmyTJsi$3TtlN3lnZvJHFFDitfirlyZFT4pLJyAeC/T3DZpJ69CHcfWC29VQnr/:14966:0:99999:7::: "
[16:51] <DasEi> gribouille:has no os-prober.. seems like you didn't tell whole story in first place
[16:51] <david5345> phonex, that's a salted SHA512 hash from /etc/shadow
[16:51] <phonex01> yes thats right
[16:51] <sipior> phonex01: not something you want to publish on a public channel.
[16:51] <RussellAlan> Polah,  how do i get to the grub menu? lol that is the issue
[16:51] <phonex01> i know that man
[16:52] <david5345> The new grub menu can be reached by holding the shift key during boot
[16:52] <phonex01> how can i generate this hash ???
[16:52] <DasEi> gribouille: which ubu-distro do you use ?
[16:52] <sipior> phonex01: install "makepasswd"
[16:52] <cyrix> hey there. is it stable to install gnome 3 from ppa?
[16:52] <phonex01> oh thank you
[16:52] <gribouille> DasEi, maverick
[16:52] <Polah> RussellAlan, hold shift during boot
[16:52] <david5345> phonex01 in PHP, you can use the crypt() function
[16:52] <DasEi> gribouille: so that comes with grub2
[16:52] <gribouille> DasEi, yes
[16:53] <DasEi> gribouille: and the thing to chainload is xp ?
[16:53] <phonex01> makepass can make SHA512 hash ?
[16:53] <Bibs> anyone around :\
[16:53] <mang0> ME!
[16:53] <DasEi> bobs
[16:53] <gribouille> DasEi, if I put grub2 on the MBR, each time I run XP, grub2 disappears
[16:53] <phonex01> and what about function crypt() in php it will generate SHA512 hash ?
[16:54] <Bibs> i can't get 10.10 to recognize my touchpad
[16:54] <david5345> phonex01, for /etc/shadow I either use the passwd command or generate it in PHP using crypt($password, '$6$'. $salt);
[16:54] <Bibs> any idea's as to why?
[16:54] <cyrix> phonex01: I didn't worked with php for some time, but there was a method called sha - or don't you need it?
[16:55] <openclic> slt
[16:55] <phonex01> what does '$6$'. $salt mean ?
[16:55] <DasEi> gribouille: that's strange
[16:55] <Bibs> ...
[16:55] <Bibs> so
[16:55] <david5345> $6$ means it's gonna be a SHA512, $1$ means MD5
[16:55] <Bibs> any ideas?
[16:55] <cyrix> phonex01: http://php.net/manual/en/function.sha1.php
[16:55] <david5345> Bibs, what model of laptop do you have ? what does lspci say ?
[16:55] <gribouille> DasEi, there must be a program in XP that overwrites something in stage1.5
[16:56] <DasEi> !touchpad | bibs
[16:56] <Bibs> sony david5345
[16:56] <Floraiz> hello ! is it possible to run a shell script with interaction (read etc..) before kdm show off?
[16:56] <gribouille> DasEi, how can I get grub1 to search for XP ?
[16:56] <Bibs> i don't know what a synapticstouchpad is :\
[16:56] <frybye> hi - re- on a dual boot system I have a resource (now-) on a nfts partition which I am able to mount but via the natty gui do not seem to be able to change a start.exe to make it exectuable via wine- any tips?
[16:56] <DasEi> gribouille: never heard of that, either xp works or needs user invention
[16:56] <Floraiz> show on*
[16:57] <Bibs> david5345 it's a sony E-series
[16:57] <czardoz> frybye, "wine <filename>"
[16:57] <czardoz> in console
[16:57] <czardoz> :)
[16:57] <DasEi> gribouille: same as above,where it'll be root hd(0,0) then
[16:57] <frybye> asking here cos no responses on #ubuntu+1 and this is a pretty general question I guess... ok hang on.. eh how do I navigate to such a partition in the console..?
[16:58] <nyuszika7h> Hi, where can I get a driver for my touchpad?
[16:58] <frybye> I know how to cd - change directory - but how to change partition???
[16:58] <Polah> frybye: You mount it then cd to get there
[16:58] <Polah> frybye: i.e. I have a data drive mounted at /media/Data, so I just do cd /media/Data
[16:58] <frybye> yeah but where will it be...?
[16:59] <RussellAlan> Okay so I did Shift at boot and got grub 2 screen, it is not listing my /sda3 partition how can i add it?
[16:59] <bl4ckcomb`> frybye, man mount
[16:59] <Bibs> nyuszika7h
[16:59] <frybye> I am no linux expert... sorry..
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> frybye: depends on mount point
[16:59] <Floraiz> hello ! is it possible to run a shell script with interaction (read etc..) before kdm show on?
[16:59] <Polah> Wherever you mount it... Probably /media/ or /mnt
[16:59] <rumpe1> frybye, get mountpoint from "mount" output, cd mountpoint
[16:59] <nyuszika7h> Bibs: hm?
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> frybye: use your places menu to mout partitions
[16:59] <frybye> i mouinted via gui...
[16:59] <Bibs> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[16:59] <Polah> mount via cli
[16:59] <DasEi> frybye: mount  , get the mountpoint,   cd           , change directory
[16:59] <frybye> yeah it is mounted...
[16:59] <nyuszika7h> Bibs: it's not a Synaptics touchpad
[16:59] <Bibs> oh..
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> frybye: then run:  mount   and you can see the mount points
[16:59] <Bibs> that's what im trying to do :\
[17:00] <Bibs> and i don't have a normal mouse to navigate
[17:00] <Bibs> so i think my ubuntu experience just ended lol
[17:00] <frybye> like the command is    mount   ok - now i have it.. i forget so much again and again - sorry.. you know the mfso war disab.
[17:00] <DasEi> frybye: sudo chmod +x blah.exe  && sudo chown WineUserHer blah.exe
[17:00] <RussellAlan> How do i add /dev/sda3 to my grub 2 menu?
[17:01] <DasEi> executable+permission (ntfs doesn't hold perms of linux)
[17:01] <RussellAlan> How do i add /dev/sda3 to my grub 2 menu? @ Abhijit
[17:01] <rumpe1> DasEi, linux executes windows-binaries?
[17:01] <DasEi> uner wine, yes
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> RussellAlan: run:   sudo blkid | grep sda3     will give the UUID
[17:01] <rumpe1> DasEi, so ... not linux
[17:01] <leg3nd> RussellAlan, in the /etc/grub./40_custom   file
[17:01] <leg3nd> RussellAlan, assuming its grub2
[17:01] <DasEi> see above question
[17:02] <RussellAlan> leg3nd, so i edit that file with the id?
[17:03] <Guest28644> Huh, what happened?
[17:03] <RussellAlan> /dev/sda3: UUID="92200B3C200B2737" TYPE="ntfs"
[17:03] <Abhijit> RussellAlan, hmm??????
[17:03] <Floraiz> hello ! is it possible to run a shell script with interaction (read etc..) before kdm show on?
[17:03] <RussellAlan> Abhijit, =D You helped me the other day so i was just directing my Q at U
[17:03] <phonex01> guys how can i make small  mail server on a computer for about 40 mail account , in which it will be used on locally
[17:03] <leg3nd> RussellAlan, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[17:04] <Abhijit> RussellAlan, i dont remember. next time onwards just ask to the channel in general. if anyone knows/ is free to answer they will respond.
[17:04] <frybye> DasEi: like you mean this:- sudo chmod +x start.exe  && sudo chown ron start.exe
[17:04] <frybye> ActionParsnip: the mount command produced a page of gobbledegook...
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> frybye: read it, it makes sense
[17:05] <meganerd> phonex01: there is more than one way to do it.  Have a look at howtoforge
[17:05] <frybye> I was looking for smthing like nfts or d: or .. oh jeez...
[17:05] <meganerd> phonex01: there are some good tutorials there
[17:06] <derango> hey people, is there any way I can set up ubuntu to show me opinions of window managers to choose from right after booting in?
[17:06] <kukuNut> any idea when firefox 4.0 in 10.10?
[17:06] <meganerd> derango: the log in window already allows this
[17:06] <frybye> ActionParsnip: also can see no sizes - there is a sda1 and sda2 etc - but which of them is the partition i need - no idea...
[17:07] <meganerd> frybye: sudo parted /dev/sda print
[17:07] <Opppe> Hello, i run a java program which does lot of O/I .. when the program starts it goes pretty fast.. I see the i/o percentage to be high. Then the ram says 60% used in programs and 40% in cache and the program goes really slow.. and the I/O drops to like 1-2% in comparison to 50-60% that was before. Is that normal? if i free cache that would improve anything? i run ubuntu 64bit, java64bit and eclipse64.. so i don't understand why it can't pull more than 60% of th
[17:07] <Opppe> e ram.
[17:07] <Floraiz> hello ! is it possible to run a shell script with interaction (read etc..) before kdm show on?
[17:07] <crack> hi
[17:07] <phonex01> thank you
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> frybye: then navigate to the mount points and you will see the data files
[17:09] <joeb_> guys im having an issue with chrominum in ubuntu .. i have a lot of squggigly lines onthe tabs .. sometimes the while page has squggley lines .. any way to fix ?
[17:09] <Stronze> what would i look for to stop graphics from crashing
[17:09] <Floraiz> hello ! is it possible to run a shell script with interaction (read etc..) before kdm show on?
[17:09] <frybye> meganerd: ok that has done it.. I take it the "Number 1 to 5" is the respective sda1-5 right?
[17:10] <soreau> Stronze: What is crashing exactly?
[17:10] <meganerd> frybye: yup
[17:11] <Stronze> soreau - any graphic program crashes the systen but hitting physical shutdown button,m ubuntu properly shuts down
[17:11] <Stronze> soreau - IE games
[17:11] <soreau> Stronze: What graphics chip is it?
[17:12] <Stronze> soreau - i been trying to figure that out thru lshw but i cant seem to see it but im still learning linux
[17:12] <soreau> Stronze: lspci|grep VGA
[17:13] <frybye> meganerd: when I do a    cd /dev/sda2 it says ***: not a directory
[17:13] <soreau> frybye: Its a device node, not a directory
[17:13] <frybye> so how to I get in there??
[17:13] <soreau> frybye: You have to mount it to a directory
[17:14] <frybye> it is mounted on the system.. I have an icon for it on the desktop and can access it per gui...
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> frybye: you can't do that, it is a block device, once you mount the device, you can then access it
[17:14] <soreau> frybye: sudo mount /dev/sda2 /some/empty/directory
[17:14] <Stronze> soreau 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01)
[17:14] <soreau> frybye: Or, it may already be mounted. See the output of mount|grep sda2
[17:14] <frybye> soreau: ok thanks...
[17:14] <soreau> Stronze: That is a poor gpu and the driver really cant run games
[17:15] <Stronze> soreau - replace driver?
[17:15] <soreau> Stronze: gpu
[17:15] <Stronze> soreau - i was afraid that this computer was that old
[17:15] <frybye> dev/sda2 on /media/054037263199AA45 type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksize=4096,default_permissions) - eh so /media/05***** is the directory it is mounted in - right?
[17:15] <soreau> It used to work better in the past but the newer driver stack simply cant make the card perform
[17:16] <Stronze> soreau - was that to me or fry?
[17:16] <soreau> you
[17:16] <Stronze> okay
[17:16] <soreau> Stronze: Its focused on the newer intels, like >= i9xx
[17:17] <soreau> frybye: Yes
[17:17] <frybye> soreau: the sub-dir names are like    My Vids - and ubuntu dosent seem to like them or..?
[17:17] <frybye> the spaces I mean...?
[17:17] <Stronze> soreau - am i able tp use an older driver to wiggle some better preformance?
[17:17] <Polah> frybye: You need to put filenames with spaces in them within ""
[17:17] <frybye> Polah: thanks...
[17:18] <soreau> Stronze: Maybe an older version of ubuntu, like <= 8.xx
[17:18] <soreau> frybye: Or you can escape them with \
[17:19] <soreau> frybye: Use tab to auto complete the file names
[17:19] <birdthief> Hi.  I just got natty working on an MBA 3,1
[17:19] <Stronze> soreau - hmm would the archived distros be up to date before upgrades?
[17:19] <birdthief> shall I post a wiki entry
[17:19] <birdthief> ?
[17:19] <soreau> Stronze: Nope, probably not even supported any more
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> frybye: simply avoiding spaces makes life a tonne easier
[17:19] <ikonia> birdthief: why ?
[17:20] <frybye> Polah: soreau ok I am in the right dir - and now I need to chmod or chown or whatever the start.exe - what wouild be the command for that (when I am in that dir already..?)
[17:20] <soreau> ! natty | birdthief
[17:20] <Stronze> soreau - i know not supported but hoping they was fully updated to date of non-support
[17:20] <Polah> frybye: To make it executable?
[17:20] <soreau> frybye: chmod +x /path/to/file.exe
[17:20] <birdthief> ikonia: because by default, sound and the touchpad don't work
[17:20] <frybye> ActionParsnip: sure this is a partition that 99.999% of the time is used and created by win7
[17:20] <jelle> Anyone with experience with installing mod-mono on maverick?
[17:20] <soreau> frybye: But that is a windows executable so you would need to run it with wine or so
[17:20] <ikonia> birdthief: for you they don't,
[17:20] <frybye> just dont have room on my buntu part.
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> frybye: that's fine, it's ntfs and ubuntu can read and write to it
[17:21] <birdthief> ikonia: Now they do :)
[17:21] <frybye> soreau: yeah .. but the path has a load of spaces in it too so is there not a way to do it within that directory without the path being stated in the command?
[17:21] <Polah> I know Ubuntu supports NTFS, but can Windows support ext4?
[17:22] <frybye> Polah: dont think so...
[17:22] <soreau> frybye: wine /media/blah/blah/file\ with\ spaces<tab><tab>
[17:22] <soreau> frybye: tab will autocomplete the name for you
[17:22] <sipior> Polah: sort of: http://www.soluvas.com/read-browse-explore-open-ext2-ext3-ext4-partition-filesystem-from-windows-7/
[17:22] <frybye> soreau: so if I am already IN the right directory cant I just do a chmod +x start.exe or..?
[17:23] <soreau> frybye: . is the current working directory, so do chmod ./file.exe
[17:23] <frybye> ok soreau: thanks...
[17:23] <Stronze> soreau - thanks for that info. ill tell em to buy a new pc if they want to do anything kool
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> frybye: if you are trying to run windows apps which are installed on your NTFS partition, its not going to work unless the app is extremely portable
[17:24] <soreau> Stronze: Yea, radeon is a good investment right now
[17:24] <frybye> will see action...
[17:24] <soreau> They have the best open source drivers
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> frybye: if it did, you could simply copy apps between systems and never have to pay
[17:24] <Stronze> soreau - radeon graphics cards?
[17:24] <soreau> Stronze: yes
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> frybye: there are registry entries and files which need to go in the windows directories and such
[17:25] <Stronze> soreau - does radon native support linux?
[17:25] <soreau> Stronze: yes
[17:25] <frybye> Action - this is not an application that one has to install - it is a portable resource with its own gui accessing video instruction segments..
[17:25] <cookieMonster> Is there a way to do incremental backups on Truecrypt files with Rsync?
[17:25] <Tr3LoS> Hello
[17:25] <Stronze> soreau - thats interesting to hear. last i known it was nivida only for native support
[17:25] <jelle> AFAIK nvidia has always performed better on linux... Not sure though.
[17:26] <LetsGo67> What is better between 32-bit Ubuntu and 64-bit Ubuntu?
[17:26] <Tr3LoS> I got a serious problem with Ubuntu and I am now with a live CD, can any1 help? Am I in the right chat?
[17:26] <RussellAlan> I'm having trouble finding the part on the grub 2 site to add /dev/sda3
[17:26] <RussellAlan> can someone please assist me?
[17:26] <cookieMonster> Tr3LoS: What's the problem?
[17:26] <geo77> LetsGo67: it depends on what you use it for
[17:26] <jelle> RussellAlan: what's up?
[17:26] <daaaaaaaa> LetsGo67 - 32 works better in some cases.
[17:26] <frybye> chmod ./start.exe - produces missing operand after `./start.exe'
[17:26] <Roasted_> How do I set which one of my interfaces I want to handle DHCP handouts?
[17:26] <soreau> Stronze: nvidia does not support the open source community. They keep all of their hw specs locked up. AMD on the other hand releases hw specs for radeon cards and even has several full time paid devs to work on the radeon driver
[17:26] <itilious> RussellAlan, what you trying to do?
[17:27] <Tr3LoS> I was doing some updates at 11.04 which I installed yesterday and it crashed. Then nautilus crashed. I restarted and it now tells that / is not mounted
[17:27] <geo77> LetsGo67: 64 bit if you want to encode video and other video related stuff, 32 if you want more compatibility
[17:27] <RussellAlan> jelle,  itilious, i'm trying to add /dev/sda3: UUID="92200B3C200B2737" TYPE="ntfs"  to my grub 2 boot menu
[17:28] <Stronze> soreau - hmm looks like im using radeon when i build my desktop
[17:28] <cookieMonster> Tr3LoS: Why don't you just wait until it's out of beta? But I'm not sure, sorry :/
[17:28] <_Tristan> how can I resize my screen so it ends 10 pixels before the bottom of the screen?
[17:28] <LetsGo67> geo77: Is it wise to install both?
[17:28] <Tr3LoS> Well, I now cant recover, or even load a previous version from boot manager
[17:28] <LetsGo67> geo77: Flash is only 32-bit?  What about Virtual PCs?
[17:28] <geo77> LetsGo67: also keep in mind that 64 bit will natively support over 4GB of ram
[17:28] <Tr3LoS> is there any other chat I can ask for help?
[17:29] <frybye> soreau: did you see that doing   sudo chmod ./start.exe   produced  missing operand after `./start.exe'
[17:29] <cookieMonster> Tr3LoS: This would probably be your best bet other than forums.
[17:29] <soreau> frybye: You forgot +x
[17:29] <Stronze> laters everyone and thanks for the help
[17:29] <frybye> i see...
[17:29] <Tr3LoS> btw, now with the live CD, / is mounted normaly
[17:29] <soreau> frybye: +x makes it executable while =x does the opposite
[17:29] <soreau> -x
[17:29] <RussellAlan> jelle,  any idea?
[17:30] <geo77> LetsGo67: I would stick with 32 if you are not doing heavy graphics stuff or data mining on your computer
[17:30] <jelle> RussellAlan: Do you want to boot from it?
[17:30] <LetsGo67> geo77: 720p video editing?
[17:30] <lolmatic> hi
[17:30] <RussellAlan> yes, I would like to have that option in  my boot menu jelle
[17:30] <lolmatic> i dont have any sounds in jagged alliance 2 :(
[17:32] <geo77> yeah, you need 64 bit, I am not sure but I think there is a way that you can have two different Ubuntu instances in the same machine, and of course VirtualBox is another option
[17:33] <jelle> RussellAlan: should be like #title Windows #root (hd0,2) #makeactive #chainloader +1
[17:34] <jelle> RussellAlan: at least if you want to boot windows from it
[17:34] <RussellAlan> jelle, I don't uynderstand that.
[17:34] <RussellAlan> where do i add that can you query me?
[17:35] <_Tristan> my desktop overflows my screen by a few pixels, what can I do?
[17:36] <LetsGo67> geo77: RAM aside, what does 64 bits do differently than 32 bits?
[17:36] <frybye> soreau: something went wrong - still gives a fault report that it is not exectuable...
[17:37] <frybye> soreau: and when I use the gui it still auto deletes when I try and put the tick in allow execute... [ ]
[17:37] <LetsGo67> geo77: Would my 64-bit, single-core Celeron work better with a 64-bit system?
[17:37] <frybye> ie it wont let me change to exectuable...
[17:37] <rumpe1> frybye, on a ntfs-partition?
[17:38] <frybye> do i need to chown also...
[17:38] <frybye> rumpe1: yeah...
[17:38] <rumpe1> frybye, no chance ... ntfs doesnt know anything about executable bits
[17:38] <martin__> do u play WoW
[17:38] <Frekk> Is there a command that determines a file type for me? (e.g. if the file extension is missing or wrong)
[17:39] <rumpe1> frybye, start it via commandline and everything is fine
[17:39] <ruan> Frekk: yes
[17:39] <rumpe1> Frekk, "file"
[17:39] <frybye> rumpe1: well thats that.. thanks - seems others here thought it was possible.. never mind - I have a windows pc also... a separate on - just wanted to do the challeng..
[17:39] <frybye> rumpel like in the right directory - just do ./start.exe - right?
[17:40] <rumpe1> frybye, no... "wine /path/to/start.exe"
[17:40] <Frekk> rumpe1: hah, great. Thanks!
[17:41] <geo77> LetsGo67: I tried 64 bit some time ago in my computer and saw no noticeable difference, but I was not doing anything with video editing or cad programs
[17:42] <lolmatic> hey guys
[17:42] <LetsGo67> geo77: Fair enough.  Hopefully the transition finishes sooner rather than later.
[17:42] <asi3296> hi
[17:42] <LetsGo67> Bye everyone and thanks!
[17:42] <lolmatic> im experiencing a horrible problem: sometimes when i click somewhere the mouse somehow is being captured by the window and i cant click anywhere else anymore :(
[17:42] <asi3296> I have delete /bin... how do i repair that?
[17:43] <lolmatic> only alt+tab and alt+f4 works :O
[17:43] <maco> asi3296: with an install cd
[17:43] <asi3296> I only have ubuntu server cd
[17:43] <asi3296> do i need to do the whole setup again
[17:43] <maco> asi3296: yes
[17:44] <inthewind> hi everyone!
[17:44] <geo77> LetsGo67: good luck
[17:44] <asi3296> and will it keep all my samba configuration
[17:45] <asi3296> *huh guys... how do i insert the nick of the peaple i want to reply
[17:45] <maco> asi3296: start typing it and hit tab
[17:46] <asi3296> maco: ok thank
[17:46] <inthewind> many times i have to reinstall ubuntu 10.10 because i get into somekind oh initramfs shell
[17:46] <asi3296> maco: so if i do the whole setup again, i will lost my samba config?
[17:46] <compdoc> shouldnt have to reinstall at all
[17:46] <maco> asi3296: you could just back up the samba config
[17:47] <maco> compdoc: if you delete all of /bin?
[17:47] <maco> compdoc: you're pretty thoroughly screwed in that situation
[17:47] <inthewind> many times i have to reinstall ubuntu 10.10 because i get into somekind oh initramfs shell. i hear some clicks from hard drive
[17:47] <compdoc> guess you would be
[17:47] <Vizzl3> 10.04>>>10.10
[17:47] <maco> inthewind: clicks in hard drive are a bad sign. like "backup right now" bad
[17:48] <frybye> rumpe1: got two pages of fault report .. giving up.. never mind.. like i say have a win7 pc next to me.. dont like to be driven into the arms of m$ of course.. hehe
[17:48] <inthewind> is there a way to test hard drive i hear some click sounds from it
[17:48] <maco> inthewind: i'd backup FIRST and then you can use smartctl to check for errors
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> inthewind: i suggest you grab the ultimate boot cd and test the drive using that.
[17:48] <asi3296> compdoc: so can i do some kind of repair
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> inthewind: clicking isn't healthy
[17:49] <leg3nd> lol
[17:49] <itilious> would using "i915.modeset=1" on boot have anything to do with ubuntu crashing everytime i try to play an mp3 from a podcast?
[17:49] <rumpe1> inthewind, there should be a drive-manager in the administration-menu
[17:49] <frybye> bye folks - thanks for all your help - have a nice one (or 3...)
[17:49] <ayecee> itilious: what are you playing it with?
[17:49] <maco> asi3296: the only sort of workaround i can think of would be copying all of /bin from another system with same ubuntu version and same architecture and *hoping* you didnt have any packages installed that that system doesn't
[17:49] <itilious> default ubuntu media player
[17:49] <rumpe1> inthewind, but when i hear clicks i immediately unmount the drive and make a backup/image
[17:49] <itilious> it crashes when i try to stream the mp3 from internet, and doesnt play at all in some players after completely downloaded
[17:50] <ayecee> itilious: in that case, maybe yes. it seems like totem does a modeset on startup, regardless of whether it's playing video.
[17:50] <ayecee> it makes my video glitch for a moment when i have dual monitors.
[17:50] <asi3296> maco: but i cant even log on my syteme ( with the missing /bin)
[17:50] <itilious> ayecee, i have to use i915.modeset=1 on boot to GET it to boot correctly, is there a way for me to play these podcast mp3s?
[17:50] <raido> asi3296: you could have success by doing as close an install as the ruined on another machine and then copying /bin over from the new install
[17:51] <ayecee> itilious: try another player, maybe. You say you just get no sound for other players?
[17:51] <itilious> ayecee, thanks again btw for the help with the vpn, i can't stop using ubuntu again cuz its doing EVERYTHING i need it to and properly (minus this mp3 podcast playback issue)
[17:51] <eric__> ?
[17:51] <eric__> what's up man?
[17:51] <asi3296> raido:  installe on another partiontion and then cp to the crashed one?
[17:52] <raido> asi3296: no, another computer altogether
[17:52] <inthewind> maco: is there a way to use only the healthy parts of the hard drive?
[17:53] <asi3296> but how do i will cp the /bin folder to the crash system if i cant even log on it
[17:53] <maco> asi3296: you'd need to boot from some other medium or pull the hard drive and put it in an enclosure to hook up to a working system and copy the working system's /bin
[17:53] <ayecee> inthewind: if the drive is clicking, there is no "healthy part".
[17:53] <maco> inthewind: this isnt a few bad sectors, this is the mechanical pieces smashing into each other
[17:53] <itilious> ayecee, can i give youa pastebin link to the part of my syslog that pertains to this error?
[17:53] <itilious> maybe you can interpret it better
[17:54] <ayecee> itilious: sure
[17:54] <raido> asi3296: install same version on 2nd pc, plug 1st and 2nd into same network, boot 2nd, boot 1st to a live cd, mount "/" on the 1st, scp "/bin? on 2nd to 1st
[17:54] <inthewind> maco: thanks to you and everybody
[17:54] <itilious> Apr  7 11:26:36 ubuntu-laptop pulseaudio[1770]: ratelimit.c: 3 events suppressed
[17:54] <itilious> Apr  7 11:42:25 ubuntu-laptop kernel: [ 2362.552026] [drm:i915_hangcheck_elapsed] *ERROR* Hangcheck timer elapsed... GPU hung
[17:54] <itilious> Apr  7 11:42:25 ubuntu-laptop kernel: [ 2362.552038] render error detected, EIR: 0x00000000
[17:54] <itilious> Apr  7 11:42:25 ubuntu-laptop kernel: [ 2362.552056] [drm:i915_do_wait_request] *ERROR* i915_do_wait_request returns -5 (awaiting 384582 at Apr  7 11:43:49 ubuntu-laptop kernel: imklog 4.2.0, log source = /proc/kmsg started.
[17:54] <itilious> Apr  7 11:43:49 ubuntu-laptop rsyslogd: [origin software="rsyslogd" swVersion="4.2.0" x-pid="673" x-info="http://www.rsyslog.com"] (re)start
[17:54] <FloodBot1> itilious: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:55] <asi3296> raido:  dont have 2 linux  working machine
[17:55] <itilious> oops, sorry bout that lol, must've missed the C when changing clipboard lol
[17:55] <itilious> http://pastebin.com/0QYvPWnz ayecee
[17:55] <wildc4rd> afternoon all
[17:55] <ResQue> i am using partimage to backup a partition, but for someone reason i can not check or uncheck an option on the menu. am i doing something wrong. i thought i could just press enter and it would choose an option for me
[17:55] <raido> asi3296: do you have a 2nd HD that you can put in the broken machine
[17:56] <itilious> ayecee, thats what was logged when my ubuntu "crashed" after trying to play mp3 from podcast stream
[17:56] <ayecee> itilious: looks pretty clearcut, the GPU hung and so it rebooted
[17:56] <ayecee> itilious: doesn't really suggest a fix, though.
[17:56] <asi3296> the 2nd hd is making trouble and i was backing it up while deleting /bin
[17:56] <asi3296> raido: the 2nd hd is making trouble and i was backing it up while deleting /bin
[17:57] <kamran_> hello
[17:58] <killz> hhi
[17:58] <killz> hi*
[17:58]  * randomuser is away: I'm busy
[17:58] <kamran_> how r u killz
[17:58] <ikonia> !away > Random832
[17:58] <raido> asi3296: well, basically you need to find a way to get a /bin dir from a working install of the same version of your distro and copy it to the borked one.
[17:58] <ikonia> ahhh
[17:58] <ikonia> !away > randomuser
[17:58] <tomreyn> hey, i just installed 10.10 from the alternative cd and i have strange colors when trying to playback any movie
[17:59] <raido> asi3296: otherwise, boot to a live cd, backup all your configs and start over
[17:59] <kamran_> i have a question to ask. May I ?
[17:59] <tomreyn> i'm not sure how to diagnose this further...
[17:59] <eipou_> kamran_,  Yes
[18:00] <tomreyn> colors are much too dark. and wrong, too. most is either black, red or blue
[18:00] <kamran_> i want to make sure that i have a browser that supports 128 bit SSL encryption. I am running kubuntu. Rekonq is installed by default. Need guidance on this.
[18:01] <e0> Hi all is there some way to install several linuxes (multi-boot) and in the end have full-disk LUKS encrytpion ?
[18:01] <jelle> tomreyn: only when playing a movie?
[18:01] <dd214> Does Ubuntu come with an automatic DNS redirect service... something to support no-ip.com?
[18:02] <asi3296> the thing is my older hdd have ubuntu 9.**(?) and contain all the old system folder and some info i need to backup. but it contain a /bin folder that i wanted to delete (didnt delete the good one). the question is ''can i cp the /bin from the old version(9.0x) of ubuntu to the new one (server ed. 10.04)
[18:02] <jelle> dd214: try ddclient
[18:02] <erUSUL> !info noip2
[18:02] <asi3296> raido: the thing is my older hdd have ubuntu 9.**(?) and contain all the old system folder and some info i need to backup. but it contain a /bin folder that i wanted to delete (didnt delete the good one). the question is ''can i cp the /bin from the old version(9.0x) of ubuntu to the new one (server ed. 10.04)
[18:02] <Komladov> Hi there, i'm trying to install Ubuntu with Wubi on my lappy, but seem to be having some problems. Long story short, I install within windows, everything goes fine, but then when I try to boot into Ubuntu my computer counts down and then gets stuck on a black screen
[18:02] <dd214> jelle thnx, looking into it!
[18:02] <tomreyn> jelle: yes exactly
[18:02] <tomreyn> jelle: all other colors are fine.
[18:02] <ablmf> My ubuntu can not boot anymore.  When I power on my laptop, it just shows a black screen without any info
[18:03] <jelle> dd214: you'll still need a dyndns account or so
[18:03] <ablmf> Is there any way to try to repair it?
[18:03] <jelle> dd214: or zoneedit
[18:03] <tomreyn> jelle: i just found this where the guy upgrades his nvidia drivers and it fixes it for him http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1596798 but I have an ATI and open source drivers.
[18:03] <raido> asi3296: its possible that you could get a booting system but it would be entirely broken from a versioning point, You would not want to run it that way.
[18:04] <tomreyn> lol, i found it.
[18:04] <tomreyn> contrast was at 0 for whatever reason
[18:04] <asi3296> raido: ok, so the best thing is backing up and reistal
[18:05] <martin__> can wow be run on ubuntu?
[18:05] <Komladov> so does anyone think they can help me install ubuntu correctly? or fix the black scren at bootup?
[18:05] <asi3296> raido: i only have configured user acount and samba
[18:05] <Komladov> I feel like there wasn't much room for error with what ive done so far
[18:05] <jelle> tomreyn: could you reproduce the problem with other software (like vlc)?
[18:05] <asi3296> raido: the folder i need to back up to keep it simpleis /home & /etc?
[18:05] <jelle> tomreyn: oh see you fixed it
[18:05] <raido> asi3296: yeah, good luck, the best lessons are learned the hard way :-)
[18:05] <WiPinDon> how update mysql 5.1.41-3ubuntu12.10 to 5.1.56 in ubuntu ??
[18:05] <jelle> tomreyn: I lol'd ^^
[18:06] <jelle> tomreyn: grats though
[18:06] <asi3296> raido:  agree :P
[18:06] <ikonia> WiPinDon: why do you want to
[18:06] <asi3296> raido:  but is there other folder i need to back up?
[18:06] <tomreyn> jelle: the weird thing is, yes, the same issue occurred with mplayer and vlc, not just totem (where i was able to fix it)
[18:07] <asi3296> raido: if i bckup ''/'' and cp bak to the repair systeme
[18:07] <jelle> tomreyn: and is it fixed on the others too, now?
[18:07] <tomreyn> jelle: yes it is, just tried. thanks for your help anyways.
[18:08] <tomreyn> apparently that is a global postprocessing layer
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> WiPinDon: if its not in the official repo, you may find a ppa with it
[18:08] <raido> if all you configured is samba then no. But once reinstall, dont copy the entire backup over, just copy the /etc/samba folder and then o any user file seperately
[18:08] <WiPinDon> ikonia: i want update for prevent sql injection :(
[18:09] <ikonia> WiPinDon: how do you know the fix hasn't been back ported into your version
[18:09] <hedkandi> could someone just remind me how I pipe the output of stderr from a command line exe?
[18:09] <jelle> tomreyn: seems related to this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/totem/+bug/615235
[18:09] <raido> asi3296: if all you configured is samba then no. But once reinstall, dont copy the entire backup over, just copy the /etc/samba folder and then o any user file seperately
[18:10] <Komladov> hey-o! I am a poor, scared little man confused over his not working ubuntu. Is this a help channel where people enjoy helping people like me?
[18:10] <folorn> im trying to open a .rar file and need to know what i need to sudo apt-get install to do it anyone care to tell me plz?
[18:10] <hedkandi> ok got it! bye
[18:10] <Pici> WiPinDon: Do you have a CVE or description of that sql injection exploit?
[18:10] <_UsUrPeR_> ok, quick question about GRUB2 and clonezilla -- why is it that when I clone a drive, GRUB2 stops timing out? It no longer times out on kernel selection, and requires that I hit "enter" to select a kernel
[18:10] <WiPinDon> ikonia: i don't now
[18:11] <jelle> _UsUrPeR_: because it hates your nickname :)
[18:11] <eipou_> folorn, 7z should handle .rar files
[18:11] <Memphizzz> how do i copy a file/folder using cp in a terminal with having a progressbar?
[18:11] <tomreyn> jelle: yes this looks related
[18:11] <Pici> WiPinDon: The latest release of that package in Maverick addressed a number of security issues, se the changelog here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mysql-5.1/5.1.49-1ubuntu8.1
[18:11] <jelle> _UsUrPeR_: j/k, couldn't help you, sorry
[18:12] <_UsUrPeR_> jelle: I can't help it if I was in to sweet BBS board games and Quake when I was 8 years old!
[18:13] <asi3296> raido: i have configured user
[18:13] <WiPinDon> ikonia / Pici: thanks
[18:13] <folorn> how i sudo apt get it ? eipou
[18:13] <raido> asi3296: yeah, just make them again on the reinstall
[18:14] <Memphizzz> how do i cp in a terminal but showing the gnome progressbar?
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[18:14] <eipou_> folorn, sudo apt-get install p7zip-full
[18:14] <Roasted_> When using Ubuntu in a VLAN, is there anything special to do with DNS?
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[18:14] <Roasted_> I have a connection but DNS is failing, yet our config matches another Ubuntu server we have here.
[18:14] <killz> Roasted_ òû êàêàøêà
[18:14] <FloodBot1> TerribleTroll: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:15] <TerribleTroll> èäè ëå÷èñü áëÿòü
[18:15] <maco> TerribleTroll, killz:  stop that please
[18:15] <TerribleTroll> ê ïñèõîëîãó
[18:15] <raido> Memphizzz: you can
[18:15] <raido> Memphizzz: Doh!, I meant you cant
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> Roasted_: set DNS in network manager, you can set it temporarily in /etc/resolv.conf but it will be wiped at reboot
[18:15] <folorn> thanks eipou
[18:15] <Roasted_> ActionParsnip, I'm not using network manager. I'm using the network interface file. Should I add a DNS entry in /etc/resolv.conf?
[18:16] <Memphizzz> raido, there is no way to get the command nautilus uses?
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> Roasted_: yes I recommend you do, if you are not using dhcp then you will need to set the dns servers in the file
[18:16] <Roasted_> its an empty file otherwise, is that normal ActionParsnip ?
[18:16] <Memphizzz> raido, for me linux always was the "nothing is impossible"-os...
[18:17] <raido> Roasted_: you can also put the dns in the entry for the device in the interfaces file, per interfase entry
[18:17] <eipou_> Memphizzz,  You can do anything on linux, but bot out of the box
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> Roasted_: no it should have entries (normally filled out by network manager due to dhcp).You can add the line:   nameserver 8.8.8.8      save the new file and close the editor, should be ok immediately
[18:17] <Roasted_> ActionParsnip, raido it works now. I had to put the nameserver in the resolv.conf. what is the point of resolv.conf?
[18:17] <volvering> hello friends! i was testing this tutorial how to crack wep http://securitydoesntexist.net/printthread.php?tid=146 i made all correct untill i get to this step "aireplay-ng -1 0 -a <bssid> -h <mon0 MAC address> -e <essid> mon0" and i get this answer from terminal "19:10:15  Waiting for beacon frame (BSSID: 40:4A:03:81:B8:89) on channel -1
[18:17] <volvering> 19:10:15  mon0 is on channel -1, but the AP uses channel 9
[18:17] <volvering> "  someone can help?
[18:17] <raido> Memphizzz: maybe, "nautilus-sendto"
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> Roasted_: its the file the OS references to get the DNS servers as well as the order
[18:18] <eipou_> volvering,  #aircrack-ng
[18:18] <eipou_> volvering, If the problem is on aircrack
[18:18] <raido> Memphizzz: actually thats not it.
[18:18] <leg3nd> volvering, its an issue with your driver, are you using RTL8187?
[18:18] <volvering> eipou_,  yes
[18:19] <volvering> leg3nd, yes
[18:19] <eipou_> volvering, Join #aircrack-ng channel
[18:19] <leg3nd> volvering, yea i had the same problem with the newer driver as well, you have to apply a "-1 fix patch" from the aircrack website.
[18:19] <NoiseEee> Howdee... what's the best way to mount a directory on my remote Ubuntu Server as a drive on my Ubuntu Desktop?
[18:19] <leg3nd> volvering, youll need to manually compile the drivers and patch them
[18:19] <raido> NoiseEee: you can use sshfs, nfs or samba
[18:20] <eipou_> volvering, "channel-1" is (#1) http://trac.aircrack-ng.org/ticket/742 or (#2) http://patches.aircrack-ng.org/channel-negative-one-maxim.patch or (#3) http://aircrack-ng.org/doku.php?id=compat-wireless or (#4) workaround available in svn
[18:20] <leg3nd> volvering, http://patches.aircrack-ng.org/channel-negative-one-maxim.patch
[18:20] <jrib> NoiseEee: samba or nfs are your two main choices.  There's also sshfs but this depends on whether you want encryption or not (will be slower)
[18:20] <raido> NoiseEee: what do you mean by remote?
[18:20] <necromancer> is there a way for me to "symlink" or "alias" a user account?
[18:21] <necromancer> i have an account, necromancer@myserver. but i'd also like to connect as necromancer using tom@myserver
[18:21] <necromancer> these are two user accounts i use on my laptop
[18:21] <volvering> leg3nd, what i have to do?
[18:21] <necromancer> they use the same SSH key though
[18:21] <leg3nd> volvering, use the links that eipou_  gave you
[18:21] <ayecee> necromancer: have the two accounts use the same userid
[18:21] <randomuser-field> necromancer whats the point
[18:21] <leg3nd> volvering, everything you need to know is in those
[18:21] <randomuser-field> just curious
[18:22] <NoiseEee> jrib: by 'remote', i mean the server sitting across the office
[18:22] <jrib> necromancer: why don't you just use ssh_config and then do something like ssh mycoolserver (and have all your options automatically set)?  See « man ssh_config »
[18:22] <necromancer> randomuser-field: so every time i connect to myserver, all i have to do is type `ssh myserver`
[18:22] <necromancer> ayecee: will that cause a problem?
[18:22] <necromancer> jrib: ssh_config on my ubuntu server or ssh_config on my laptop (os x)?
[18:22] <volvering> leg3nd, ok i ll try to see, thanks
[18:22] <raido> NoiseEee: Ok, so if its on the same network any of theos options will work, if its outsde the lan youll need sshfs, as samba and nfs are not routable
[18:23] <jrib> necromancer: ssh_config is for client-side configuration
[18:23] <ayecee> necromancer: I imagine some tools would be confused by it, but I don't know which ones offhand.
[18:23] <necromancer> ah ok
[18:23] <asi3296> raido: i am on a live cd (tiny core) and i cant find the systeme folder
[18:23] <jrib> necromancer: I can post an example if you want.
[18:23] <Spikehead777> Hey all.
[18:23] <Roasted_> ActionParsnip, how does DNS in resolv differ from DNS in interfaces then?
[18:23] <NoiseEee> raido: great, any links about doing that on ubuntu?  everything i find is about mounting windows/ubuntu or vice-versa
[18:23] <randomuser-field> NoiseEee nfs is preferred
[18:23] <necromancer> that would be cool, though i imagine i could just find it in man ssh_config too
[18:23] <Spikehead777> How would I stop the x server and restart it with logging enabled?
[18:23] <Memphizzz> how do i change the color of the line if someone writes to me in pidgin?
[18:23] <raido> NoiseEee: just do a google on setting up smaba in ubuntu
[18:24] <asi3296> raido: i have mount sda1 on /back  but the only file i see  is thing like /grub etc
[18:24] <IsoLinCHiP> How can I have the exec bit set, when I mount a NTFS partition via nautilus?
[18:24] <randomuser-field> samba is wasteful mo reason tp use it ulness a windows  client is involved
[18:25] <raido> asi3296: what are you trying to do
[18:25] <jrib> necromancer: http://paste.ubuntu.com/590885/  then I just type "ssh linode"
[18:25] <asi3296> raido:  i am searching the  ''/ with the missing /bin'' to cp my /etc folder
[18:26] <raido> asi3296: so, on /sda1 you dont see /etc?
[18:26] <asi3296> raido:  nop
[18:26] <jrib> IsoLinCHiP: what do you mean by "exec bit set"?
[18:27] <asi3296> raido:  i see /grub, /lost+found, memtest86.... and others files
[18:27] <raido> asi3296: well, is it on another partition? sda2,3,4?
[18:27] <Jackneill> hi
[18:28] <Jackneill> can you help me?
[18:28] <asi3296> fdisk tell me sda1 , sda2, sda5
[18:28] <Jackneill> i have a router and a wireless network
[18:28] <v3nil> hi
[18:28] <asi3296> raido: fdisk tell me sda1 , sda2, sda5
[18:28] <v3nil> anyone with avr knowledge
[18:28] <IsoLinCHiP> jrib: I want to run a program via wine, which wont do it unless the exec bit is set, which it isnt because nautilus is mounting the partition with noexec
[18:28] <Jackneill> i get this msg: firmware is missing
[18:28] <Jackneill> but
[18:28] <v3nil> or emvedded
[18:28] <v3nil> embedded*
[18:28] <raido> asi3296: try sda5
[18:28] <asi3296> raido: nothing on sda5... and wont mount sda2
[18:28] <ayecee> Jackneill: you can put this all on one line, probably.
[18:28] <ayecee> Jackneill: it would be easier to follow.
[18:28] <Jackneill> i dont have internet connection to download it with addtinional drivers
[18:28] <Jackneill> so what to do?
[18:28] <Jackneill> im currently on win7
[18:28] <jrib> IsoLinCHiP: pastebin output of « mount » please
[18:28] <ayecee> v3nil: what do you want to know?
[18:29] <v3nil> embedded???
[18:29] <v3nil> i
[18:29] <mordof_> i need to allow mysql access to a partition/folder inside it, how would i go about doing that? i know chown is involved - but i forget how to list all the user daemons and whatnot so i know what to put
[18:29] <Jackneill> ayecee sorry
[18:29] <v3nil> i want to build a hardware application based on usb
[18:29] <stercor> I created a file pi2B.txt with ownership of root:root.  I can't change the ownership with sudo chown ted:ted pi2B.txt.  What am I not seeing?
[18:29] <raido> asi3296: pastebin the output if "fdisk -l"
[18:29] <zero1> fdisk
[18:29] <nadia> Helo, does anyone know what is a good mobi file reader on ubuntu? I tried okular but it is not so good :\
[18:29] <v3nil> ayecee: so is it possible to boot linux onto a atmega controller?
[18:30] <ayecee> v3nil: okay, so what do you want to know?
[18:30] <arthurbrazil> Does anyone know how I can block all other dhcp clients except for my own in dhcpd. Heres my conf file. http://paste.ubuntu.com/590887/
[18:30] <ayecee> v3nil: a large enough one, yes
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> stercor: what does the output say when you run the command?
[18:30] <sipior> stercor: on an nfs mounted volume, by any chance?
[18:30] <zero1> Does anyone Know Any Good FLV player?
[18:30] <stercor> ActionParsnip: operation not permitted.
[18:30] <randomuser-field> arthurbrazil why use dhcp then?
[18:30] <IsoLinCHiP> jrib: Ok, correction, its not noexec, im guessing its because of 'default_permissions', hang on Ill post the whole line in a sec
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> stercor: I think sipior has the key
[18:30] <v3nil> ayecee: on atmega128 or atmega64?
[18:31] <Stava> How can I see if the crontab service is running?
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> zero1: vlc I believe, mplayer will certainly do it :)
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> Stava: ps -ef | grep cron
[18:31] <arthurbrazil> I have an an ad hoc network and I believe that is the easiest way to do so.
[18:31] <Xylch> Does Ubuntu come with a web server or do I need to install one?
[18:31] <arcaos> hello folks
[18:31] <ayecee> v3nil: oh sorry, probably not the AVRs.
[18:31] <stercor> sipior: Nope, just a plain-old file on my hard drive.
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> Stava: or: service cron status
[18:31] <asi3296> cant im on another machine
[18:31] <sipior> ActionParsnip: oh well.
[18:31] <IsoLinCHiP> jrib: dev/sda7 on /media/Games1 type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksize=4096,default_permissions)
[18:32] <sipior> stercor: can you show the result of "lsattr"?
[18:32] <Stava> ActionParsnip, thanks, i guess /usr/sbin/cron is it, how do I know if there are any errors in the /etc/crontab file or something? all of a sudden my cronscript stopped executing
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> stercor: is the partition mounted read only?
[18:32] <jrib> IsoLinCHiP: if the file ends in .exe, it should be executable « man ntfs-3g » talks about this I think
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> Stava: look in /var/log   there may be a cron log
[18:32] <stercor> sipior: lsattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device While reading flags on ./pi2B.txt
[18:32] <arcaos> could you please help me to change the mouse cursors in ubuntu-gnome.... can't finde it. Installed kubuntu to try and on my way back I have the kubuntu mouse theme....
[18:32] <IsoLinCHiP> it end ins .exe of course ;) However the fs flag for executable isnt set.
[18:33] <mordof_> how do i add permission for the mysql daemon to access an ntfs hard drive?
[18:33] <sipior> stercor: what filesystem is backing this file?
[18:33] <randomuser-field> arthurbrazil just set the only subnet to assign the desired ip to your mac. eg in manpage
[18:33] <jrib> IsoLinCHiP: but exec is default, so that shouldn't matter
[18:33] <volvering> how to find out what kernel i am using?
[18:33] <stercor> sipior: Perhaps this might help: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2000000002 2011-04-03 21:48 pi2B.txt
[18:33] <Jackneill> anyone can you help me? i have a router, but i cant connect to that, cuz i need firmware, in additional drivers i cant activate cuz i dont have internet connection, what to do?
[18:33] <IsoLinCHiP> Well, obviously its not default, otherwise I wouldnt have the problem ;)
[18:34] <asi3296> raido: but i see /dev/sda1, sda2, sda5 , sbd1,2,5 (sdb is my ''screwed'' hdd)
[18:34] <xqvp43> hi guys, is there a 'Beyond Compare' alternative under ubuntu?
[18:34] <stercor> sipior: ext4.
[18:34] <Memphizzz> how do i change the highlight color if someone writes my nickname in pidgin?
[18:34] <Psychobudgie> Jackneill, drivers for a router?
[18:34] <xqvp43> for file or directory compare/merge
[18:34] <asi3296> after sda1 it tell me that partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundaries
[18:34] <Jackneill> yep, i get this msg: firmware is missing
[18:34] <Psychobudgie> Jackneill, you sure it's not a usb modem?
[18:34] <asi3296> raido: after sda1 it tell me that partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundaries
[18:34] <sipior> stercor: and what are the permissions of the directory?
[18:35] <arthurbrazil> Thanks randomuser-field would that work for multiple computers, and could you elaborate I am not quite sure what you mean.
[18:35] <Jackneill> yep it's not
[18:35] <raido> asi3296: pastebin the output if "fdisk -l"
[18:35] <Jackneill> it's a router, u set up someone ago
[18:35] <Jackneill> :p
[18:35] <Jackneill> i*
[18:35] <asi3296> raido:  i cant ....
[18:35] <Psychobudgie> Jackneill, very unlikely it's a ubuntu related issue if it's a router
[18:35] <sipior> stercor: also, could you paste the relevant line from "mount"?
[18:35] <raido> asi3296: why
[18:35] <jrib> IsoLinCHiP: there are two possible issues.  One: the partition is noexec.  Two: the file is does not have executable permission
[18:35] <mbeierl> Xylch: you need to install apache or some other web server
[18:35] <mbeierl> !apache | Xylch
[18:35] <asi3296> raido:  im not on the same machine
[18:35] <Psychobudgie> Jackneill, try a factory reset
[18:36] <stercor> sipior: /dev/sda1 on / type ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[18:36] <Jackneill> how to?
[18:36] <raido> asi3296: the live cd doenst give you internet access?
[18:36] <IsoLinCHiP> jrib: Not sure what you mean about exec beeing default, but not a single file on the drive is +x
[18:36] <Xylch> mbeierl: Thanks much
[18:36] <jrib> IsoLinCHiP: exec just means files *can* be executable
[18:36] <randomuser-field> arthurbrazil you can tell dhcpd to assign specific settings to a given mac address.  you can specify a list of macs for a rwnge of ips too.
[18:36] <Psychobudgie> Jackneill, usually a button on the router hiding underneath a small hole. The manufacturers website should show it
[18:36] <jrib> IsoLinCHiP: or maybe more accurately, that files *can* be executed
[18:36] <mbeierl> Xylch: you're welcome.  there's a lot of info out there, that's for sure.
[18:36] <Devlin> hey there
[18:37] <Roasted_> where is the dhcp config file stored?
[18:37] <jrib> IsoLinCHiP: in any case, by default files that end in .exe should be made executable by ntfs-3g
[18:37] <Jackneill> nothing problem with the router, im in win7 using the router and it's works
[18:37] <IsoLinCHiP> jrib: Communication issue here, I know chmod, etc, the file is not exec, no file is, the part is not mounted as noexec
[18:37] <Devlin> there's a problem with my game controllers
[18:37] <Jackneill> so i dont know whats the problem
[18:37] <sipior> stercor: hmm, bit of a head-scratcher. you can get a root prompt via "sudo -i" without any trouble?
[18:37] <Devlin> while i'm playing a game the mouse moves
[18:37] <zero1> Problem With Mplayer : FLV File Error CAnnot Find Codec for Audio Format 0xA
[18:37] <Devlin> and certain buttons act as mouse buttons
[18:37] <asi3296> raido: nop
[18:37] <randomuser-field> arthurbrazil man dhcpd.conf
[18:38] <stercor> sipior: It gives the root prompt #
[18:38] <asi3296> raido: tiny core....
[18:38] <arthurbrazil> ok will do thanks
[18:38] <Psychobudgie> Jackneill, what model is the router
[18:38] <asi3296> after sda1 it tell me that partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundaries
[18:38] <asi3296> raido: but i see /dev/sda1, sda2, sda5 , sbd1,2,5 (sdb is my ''screwed'' hdd)
[18:38] <asi3296> raido: after sda1 it tell me that partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundaries
[18:38] <raido> asi3296: how many HDs are in that box
[18:38] <asi3296> 2
[18:38] <IsoLinCHiP> jrib: ntfs-3g is installed, so I would hope that nautilus uses it by default to mount, which it beeing mounted as rw would indicate to me, still leaving my original question where can I change the default settings for nautilus mount
[18:39] <jrib> IsoLinCHiP: does the file end in .exe?
[18:39] <asi3296> raido: sda (/bin is missing) and sdb
[18:39] <IsoLinCHiP> jrib: *sigh* yes, it does.
[18:39] <Jackneill> psychobudgie wait  a sec
[18:39] <raido> asi3296: so the answer is 2?
[18:40] <zero1> HElp Problem With Mplayer : FLV File Error CAnnot Find Codec for Audio Format 0xA
[18:40] <mordof_> how would i allow the mysql daemon and my user full access to a particular drive?
[18:40] <jrib> IsoLinCHiP: ah, well that is interesting (and unfortunate
[18:40] <mehdi> hey fellas in this link how can i stop autogen : http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-change-the-speed-and-duplex-settings-of-an-ethernet-card/
[18:40] <asi3296> raido: but i cant mount sdb2
[18:40] <raido> asi3296: so the answer is 2?
[18:40] <stercor> sipior: Could the 2,000,000,002 file size have anything to do with it?
[18:40] <michael_> does anyone know how to mount a usb flash drive onto ubuntu?
[18:40] <stercor> sipior: I can change the ownership of other, smaller files in the directory.
[18:40] <thevishy> any software other than VLC than permits me to amplify my audio
[18:40] <IsoLinCHiP> jrib: meaning your out of ideas as well? ;)
[18:40] <sipior> stercor: can't imagine why. is the file really 2 billion digits of pi? :-)
[18:40] <asi3296> raido: im trying mout /dev/sdb2 /back
[18:40] <Jackneill> psychobudgie TP LINK TL-WR741ND
[18:40] <sipior> stercor: how was the file generated?
[18:41] <stercor> sipior: Um, yes...
[18:41] <acicula> michael_: usually just inserting the flash drive makes it show up in the file browser or under the places menu
[18:41] <jrib> IsoLinCHiP: well unmount it, mount it manually to figure out proper options you want first.  You can modify the options in gconf somewhere
[18:41] <j4cbo> hi, folsk - i've got an Ubuntu 9.10 system that i'm trying to upgrade to 10.04 LTS. i'm following the 'server' instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LucidUpgrades, but do-release-upgrade says "No new release found".
[18:41] <stercor> sipior: y-cruncher.  Took 27 hours.
[18:41] <randomuser-field> IsoLinCHiP any reason you think your. exe will work at all?
[18:41] <asi3296> raido: im trying mout /dev/sdb2 /back
[18:41] <j4cbo> anyone know what i should do to figure out what's going on?
[18:42] <acicula> j4cbo: tried with -d ?
[18:42] <Jackneill> psychobudgie TP LINK TL-WR741ND
[18:42] <Psychobudgie> Jackneill, that's no router
[18:42] <raido> asi3296: where is /back
[18:42] <asi3296> raido: but it return me mounting sda2 failed
[18:42] <Psychobudgie> Jackneill, that's a wireless extender/bridge device
[18:42] <michael_> i plugged the usb flash drive and it doesnt show up anywhere in the file system i looked under the device manager and it pops up with the name and everything it does this for all my usb flash drives
[18:42] <Pici> acicula: Please don't suggest -d, that will attempt to bring it up to the development release.
[18:42] <asi3296> raido:.... /bak
[18:42] <Jackneill> its a router
[18:42] <asi3296> raido:.... /back
[18:42] <suelen> oi
[18:42] <raido> asi3296: again, HOW MANY HDs are in that box?
[18:42] <j4cbo> acicula: same thing
[18:42] <suelen> quem fala
[18:42] <milamber> michael_: pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l
[18:42] <asi3296> raido: 2
[18:43] <stercor> sipior: http://www.numberworld.org/y-cruncher/
[18:43] <sipior> stercor: anything special about the volume? is it encrypted?
[18:43] <j4cbo> oh, wait a minute
[18:43] <Jackneill> http://www.google.hu/search?hl=hu&source=hp&q=tp+link+tl-wr741nd&aq=0&aqi=g10&aql=&oq=tp+link+tl-wr741
[18:43] <j4cbo> i was looking at the wrong part of that guide
[18:43] <Jackneill> this router
[18:43] <stercor> sipior: It's on my local hard drive /dev/sda1
[18:43] <j4cbo> apparently i should set Prompt=normal in the config file, not Prompt=lts
[18:43] <j4cbo> but won't that upgrade me to 10.10?
[18:43] <acicula> Pici: oh ok, i assumed -d would just go for the next release
[18:44] <raido> asi3296: ok, where did you make the /back folder
[18:44] <Jackneill> http://www.tp-link.com/products/productDetails.asp?pmodel=TL-WR741ND
[18:44] <mordof_> how do i add a user daemon to a specific group i made?
[18:44] <asi3296> raido: terminal
[18:44] <IsoLinCHiP> jrib: Yes, I was hoping someone here could tell me specifically where that 'somewhere in gconf' is ;)
[18:44] <asi3296> sudo mkdir /back
[18:44] <acicula> j4cbo: appearantly it does, so best ignore -d
[18:44] <zahne> Hey anyone here in the NYC area?
[18:44] <raido> asi3296: on what filesystem?
[18:44] <michael_> i don't know what pastebin is sorry
[18:44] <milamber> !pastebin
[18:45] <sipior> stercor: what are the permissions of the directory?
[18:45] <IsoLinCHiP> randomuser-field: Multiple reasons. 1. It works in windows 2. It used to work fine with wine.
[18:45] <jrib> IsoLinCHiP: search for "ntfs" :)
[18:45] <bob__909> zahne: sort of - 60 miles away in NW Jersey
[18:45] <Psychobudgie> Jackneill, it's the same as this, http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,2845,2091076,00.asp
[18:45] <raido> zahne: im in NJ too
[18:45] <Psychobudgie> Jackneill, which may I add, I use here
[18:46] <arthurbrazil> I now understand the conept but do not know how to apply MAC filtering to my server http://paste.ubuntu.com/590887/
[18:46] <Jackneill> http://www.tp-link.com/english/soft/20109149225111.pdf
[18:46] <IsoLinCHiP> jrib: gconf-editor -> search for ntfs -> pattern not found, or did you mean somewhere else?
[18:46] <Jackneill> and what to do?
[18:46] <Psychobudgie> Jackneill, it also has issues in linux and requires configuring within windows
[18:46] <Jackneill> with no internet connection
[18:46] <asi3296> raido: (filesyteme?)
[18:46] <Jackneill> hm
[18:46] <asi3296> raido: sda?
[18:46] <j4cbo>  Pici: if i set "Prompt=normal" and do-release-upgrade, will that get me 10.04 LTS or 10.10?
[18:46] <Pici> j4cbo: 10.04
[18:46] <deveras> W:Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/severnmachines/flash/ubuntu/dists/maverick/main/source/Sources.gz  404  Not Found
[18:46] <jrib> IsoLinCHiP: nope, in that case it's probably not there anymore
[18:46] <deveras> , W:Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/severnmachines/flash/ubuntu/dists/maverick/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz  404  Not Found
[18:46] <deveras> , E:Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[18:46] <acicula> arthurbrazil: that does not filter
[18:46] <firedfox> Jackneill: i'm using the same one. it works well.
[18:47] <deveras> can someone help me with this error please?
[18:47] <Pici> raido, bob__909: Ubuntu's NJ Loco team needs some love some day, if you're interested, see #ubuntu-us-nj
[18:47] <raido> asi3296: um ok, I relly need to see fdisk -l to help you further
[18:47] <Jackneill> firedfox
[18:47] <zahne> Bob_909 and other nearbys im trying film featurette videos with folks discussing their positive experience with ubuntu. Just a non profit pro oprn source project
[18:47] <Psychobudgie> Jackneill, I normally have to boot into windows, reconfigure it to operate with a static ip and take it from there
[18:47] <Jackneill> i get an msg: firmware is missing
[18:47] <acicula> arthurbrazil: my dhcp options are a little rusty, but at best that consistently maps the same name and some ip adress to the specified mac
[18:47] <stercor> sipior: /home, root:root; ted, ted:ted; Desktop, ted:ted.
[18:47] <Jackneill> i need dynamic ip
[18:47] <asi3296> ok well
[18:47] <deveras> I've read online to remove the CD-ROM from the source.list but its commented even...
[18:47] <asi3296> ... im giving up
[18:47] <arthurbrazil> Yea, the filtering part is what I am struggling with
[18:47] <j4cbo> Pici: oh, i see, it'll only give me 10.10 if i'm already on 10.04 LTS?
[18:47] <Pici> zahne: You may want to ask the NY loco team, #ubuntu-us-ny
[18:47] <zahne> Sounds great about the loco. I wanted to make a tri state loco ct ny nj pull in a larger group cast a larger net
[18:48] <arthurbrazil> I keep getting errors when restarting dhcp3
[18:48] <zahne> Pici cool thanks
[18:48] <IsoLinCHiP> *sigh* why is it that the more userfriendly the gnome folks think they are making their software, the less usable it becomes for advanced users :-/
[18:48] <asi3296> raido:  45 min is more than configuring a samba file
[18:48] <Pici> j4cbo: Yes, you can only upgrade from one release to the next unless you're going from LTS to LTS.
[18:48] <asi3296> raido: ...learn the hard way ....:P
[18:48] <raido> asi3296: lol, good point
[18:48] <acicula> arthurbrazil: that probably means you have syntax errors in the config file
[18:48] <raido> asi3296: sorry buddy, good luck
[18:49] <sipior> IsoLinCHiP: i don't know. why do people complain about the work of others, when they contribute nothing themselves?
[18:49] <deveras> Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/severnmachines/flash/ubuntu/dists/maverick/main/source/Sources.gz  404  Not Found --- from apt-get update... what is this
[18:49] <asi3296> raido: thx you
[18:49] <j4cbo> Pici: ok. thanks!
[18:49] <sipior> stercor: bizarre. i'm stretching for ideas here.
[18:49] <acicula> deveras: a broken ppa repository entry in your sources list
[18:49] <randomuser-field> arthurbrazil service dhcpd configtest or something
[18:49] <deveras> I have no reference to ppa in it acicula
[18:49] <IsoLinCHiP> sipior: Hehe, touche ;)
[18:49] <arthurbrazil> Will try that, thanks.
[18:50] <stercor> sipior: /home: drwxr-xr-x. ted: drwxr-xr-x. Desktop: drwxr-xr-x.
[18:50] <acicula> deveras: looked in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ as well?
[18:50] <sipior> stercor: might be interesting to generate a slightly smaller file, but the iterations would get tedious. if you make a smaller file with dd right now, can you change the ownership?
[18:50] <firedfox> Jackneill: oh it's weird. sorry i never met this problem before.
[18:51] <deveras> of course
[18:51] <Jackneill> hm
[18:51] <deveras> acicula: http://pastebin.com/2tthhYXC that's my source list
[18:51] <Jackneill> are you configured it on win?
[18:51] <deveras> no reference to ppa... where is this comming from?
[18:51] <stercor> sipior: dd?  How.
[18:51] <firedfox> Jackneill: no. i configured it on my ubuntu 10.10. using firefox 4.
[18:52] <deveras> can a repo point to another?
[18:52] <tsimpson> deveras: check in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[18:52] <deveras> k
[18:52] <sipior> stercor: dd if=/dev/zero of=newfile bs=900M count=2
[18:52] <oneliner> does the software centre depend on python?
[18:52] <deveras> .d ?
[18:52] <acicula> deveras: yes
[18:52] <asd2> Hi I need to access recovery mode but grub wont show up at all. What do?
[18:52] <deveras> blueman-ppa-maverick.list  blueman-ppa-maverick.list.save  google-chrome.list  google-chrome.list.save  sevenmachines-flash-maverick.list  severnmachines-flash-maverick.list  severnmachines-flash-maverick.list.save
[18:52] <Cissmayazz> use live cd
[18:53] <deveras> blueman then?
[18:53] <deveras> remove this files?
[18:53] <acicula> deveras: im gonna guess and say severnmachines-flash-maverick.list
[18:53] <Jackneill> firedfox, which properties?
[18:53] <deveras> can i just rename it or mvoe it somewhere?
[18:53] <acicula> deveras: everything in that directory is included by apt
[18:53] <asd2> live cd = the iso I used for install?
[18:53] <sipior> stercor: actually "bs=1M count=1800" is probably easier on your system :-)
[18:53] <stercor> sipior: I did `dd if=/home/ted/Desktop/pi2B.txt of=newfile bs=900M count=2'
[18:54] <sipior> stercor: no, use /dev/zero for if, please
[18:54] <deveras> acicula: i think it worked. apt-get update didn't come with errors... But no updates either...
[18:55] <sipior> stercor: well, i guess it doesn't matter much. can you change the files' ownership?
[18:55] <firedfox> Jackneill: i just used the setting wizard and followed several steps then it's done.
[18:55] <Jackneill> yep me too
[18:55] <acicula> deveras: thats normal
[18:55] <deveras> I might have it up to date...
[18:55] <Jackneill> and it works on win as well
[18:55] <Jackneill> but in ubuntu dont
[18:55] <Jackneill> firmware is missing
[18:55] <Jackneill> :s
[18:55] <deveras> acicula: what's your thoughts? it would be up to date?
[18:55] <Kindari> Hey guys, my raid controller died on me but I need access to the drives. How would I go about finding out the new drive ids, and remounting them to a specified path (/media/fileserver)
[18:56] <stercor> sipior: I was able to change the ownership of the 1,887,436,800-byte file.
[18:56] <jumpkick> is there a tool I can use to diff the currently installed package's configuration against the repo version of the package?
[18:56] <sipior> stercor: well, i guess you know what's next :-)
[18:56] <acicula> deveras: apt-get functions normally even if some of the repos you added do not function. so all you did was fix apt-get complaining about broken PPA's that are not working anymore.
[18:56] <stercor> sipior: report a bug?
[18:56] <Bholzi> Anyone on walk me through downloading and installing Gnome-shell either publicly or privately?.. Having alot of trouble - 10.10 (mav)
[18:57] <sipior> stercor: i was going to suggest making another file of size 2000000000.
[18:57] <stercor> OK.
[18:57] <Psychobudgie> Jackneill, factory reset the device and it should prompt you to rerun the wizard again when you connect to it
[18:57] <firedfox> Jackneill: what's your wireless mode? is it '802.11bgn mixed'?
[18:57] <deveras> thanks acicula
[18:57] <acicula> Bholzi: are you building it from source or something, afaik its included as a package and works just fine if installed using apt-get?
[18:57] <Psychobudgie> Jackneill, it is possible that something in the configuration is off from windows
[18:58] <Bholzi> acicula: afaik?
[18:58] <acicula> Kindari: what ki9nd of raid
[18:58] <acicula> Bholzi: as far as i know
[18:58] <Bholzi> acicula: Hold.. I will try the apt-get
[18:59] <Jackneill> hm
[18:59] <nfreader> I've got Ubuntu server running in VMWare fusion. It used up all 20gb of disk space so I increased the allocation to 40gb but df still shows 100% of 20gb used. How can I tell ubuntu that it has more disk space?
[18:59] <Jackneill> firedfox: i dont know
[19:00] <dem0> hey I have a question about piping in bash
[19:00] <stercor> sipior: `sudo dd if=/dev/null of=newfile bs=1000M count=2' create a zero-byte file.
[19:00] <fisch2461> well i thought this was a natty issue... but nope... it's a mav issue >.< well i suppose it's both... i did in update in natty... then booted into mav... and suddenly the wireless stopped working... but only in mav... any ideas?
[19:00] <asd2> live cd just has options for try or install.. how can I get recovery mode?
[19:00] <sipior> stercor: q
[19:00] <acicula> nfreader: you'll need to resize the filesystem as well
[19:00] <sipior> stercor: not /dev/null. /dev/zero!
[19:00] <Bholzi> acicula: 'E: Invalid Operation afaik' .. I am thinking a reload of my system
[19:00] <stercor> sipior: k.
[19:01] <acicula> Bholzi: afaik is not an apt-get command
[19:01] <acicula> Bholzi: apt-get install <packagename>
[19:01] <fisch2461> hold on brb >.<
[19:01] <dem0> I'm messing on my home network with arpspoof, the output keeps dumping to the shell even when I do arpspoof a.b.c.d > /dev/null &
[19:01] <dem0> is there a way I can stop this?
[19:01] <Bholzi> acicula: Sigh... Sorry - new at this
[19:01] <asd2> live cd just has options for try or install.. how can I get recovery mode?
[19:01] <acicula> dem0: try 2>&1 > /dev/null
[19:02] <Bholzi> acicula: 'E: Unable to locate package'
[19:02] <acicula> Bholzi: substitute package name with whatever the gnome-shell package is called
[19:02] <dem0> acicula okay. can you link me to something that explains what that does? :/
[19:02] <stercor> sipior: created a 2,097,152,000-byte file and I chown'ed it just fine.
[19:02] <acicula> dem0: redirects stderr to stout to dev/null
[19:03] <dem0> ooookay thanks :)
[19:03] <arthurbrazil> I thought mac filtering was working but it just assigned a IP threw dhcp to a computer not listed. http://paste.ubuntu.com/590904/
[19:03] <fisch246> ok well i'm back
[19:03] <michael_> can anyone help with  me with usb thumb drives?
[19:03] <acicula> arthurbrazil: i explained to you already, ti does not filter, al it does is map the same hostname to a mac adress
[19:03] <fisch246> anyway... know how to get my wireless working again in mav? since it's obviously not my card? >.<
[19:04] <asd2> i did apt-get install unity on 10.10 and now any gui wont show up. how do I undo?
[19:04] <acicula> fisch246: tried plugging in a cable and letting the system update?
[19:04] <sipior> stercor: can you cut and paste the original chown command here, along with the error?
[19:04] <fisch246> acicula: i'll give that a shot brb
[19:04] <acicula> michael_: can you describe the problem you have, after you plug it in what happens?
[19:04] <arthurbrazil> Yes but I have deny unknown-clients;
[19:04] <erkan^> !source
[19:05] <acicula> fisch246: you may ahve to be conncted via cable until you have enabled a wireless driver via the hardware drivers menu
[19:05] <stercor> sipior: It worked this time.  Here's the command: `sudo chown ted:ted pi2B.txt'
[19:06] <sipior> stercor: possibly a typo earlier?
[19:06] <stercor> sipior: and its result: `-rwxrwxrwx 1 ted ted 2000000002 2011-04-07 13:23 pi2B.txt'
[19:06] <Cissmayazz> Perhaps you guys know what the problem is: i have sound while playing music but i can't get some in browers.
[19:06] <fisch246> alright in mav now with ethernet... tried to run an update, but nothing to update
[19:07] <stercor> sipior: I won't dismiss the possibility. :-)
[19:07] <sipior> stercor: well, either way, it works now :-)
[19:07] <fisch246> any other ideas?
[19:07] <naryfa> Hi everyone
[19:07] <acicula> fisch246: under administration-> hardware drivers , can you enable a driver there?
[19:07] <asd2> how can I open terminal if gui wont show up, just background? any shortcuts for that?
[19:08] <naryfa> asd2: ctrl alt t
[19:08] <fisch246> acicula: yea there's one already activated, as should be... should  i try reinstalling it?
[19:08] <stercor> sipior: Looking back in .bash_history, the original command seems to be `ted@rigel:~/Desktop$ sudo chmod 777 pi2B.txt', which explains everything.
[19:08] <acicula> arthurbrazil: eh then i dont know, maybe the mac is still in a lease file somewhere?
[19:09] <acicula> fisch246: no it should be activated, can you see any wireless access points ?
[19:09] <stercor> sipior: Um, no it doesn't.  I didn't see the `sudo'
[19:09] <oneliner> the software center is failing to load, any debug step you could recomend?
[19:09] <fisch246> acicula: meaning?
[19:09] <Roasted_> Riddle me this - I'm working with an Ubuntu server on our network. I CANNOT ping internally to hostnames. I CAN ping externally to hostnames. So I can ping our servers by IP, but I cannot ping our servers by hostname. However, I can ping www.google.com and other various web sites. It's clear DNS internally doesn't work, yet externally it's fine. A windows box on the same switch works 100%, so it's definitely something with my config. This server is running
[19:09] <Roasted_>  DHCP on a different subnet as well. What can I do?
[19:10] <FloodBot1> Roasted_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:10] <naryfa> oneliner: don't want to use synaptic?
[19:10] <acicula> fisch246: if you click the network icon in the taskbar, do you see any networks you can connect too? or how are you concluding that your wireless is not working?
[19:10] <fisch246> acicula: yea there's non in the list
[19:10] <oneliner> naryfa: thing is, it stopped working, that worries me a little
[19:10] <fisch246> acicula: however on natty it connects right away
[19:10] <acicula> fisch246: know what wireless card you ahve?
[19:10] <sipior> Roasted_: try using dig to resolve an internal host, and see what comes back.
[19:11] <acicula> fisch246: or what laptop
[19:11] <Roasted_> sipior, never heard of dig. do I just run dig *hostnameofserver* ?
[19:11] <sipior> Roasted_: yep
[19:11] <PowerTux> Can I see in the log of squidGuard what site the user tried to access when denied ?
[19:11] <Roasted_> sipior, whats the golden ticket here that I need to look for?
[19:11] <fisch246> acicula: i believe a broadcom and it's a dell inspiron 1440
[19:12] <naryfa> oneliner: that's why I'm saying you can try using synaptic? Or see this website if it helps http://www.ubuntux.org/node/9157
[19:12] <acicula> PowerTux: that some kind of filtering proxy at home? then yse
[19:12] <Roasted_> sipior, if I dig google or other news sites, they get IPs. But not our internal servers.
[19:12] <maria> I am running Ubuntu 10.04 on my PC. Everytime I go to update I get this error. http://paste.ubuntu.com/590910/ Can someone help me to fix this
[19:12] <acicula> fisch246: is that a new model?
[19:12] <sipior> Roasted_: pastebin the response for the internal machine, if you could.
[19:12] <oneliner> naryfa: what i mean is: i would like to try to fix it, not just use something else
[19:12] <mehdi> i use ppoe can i make my connection speed go higher?
[19:12] <fisch246> acicula: meaning did i buy it new? or did it actually just get released.
[19:13] <acicula> fisch246: the latter
[19:13] <Roasted_> sipior, I did one of our file servers as well as google in this paste - http://tinypaste.com/ab1d03
[19:13] <fisch246> acicula: no idea
[19:13] <PowerTux> acicula: only squid
[19:13] <sipior> Roasted_: try specifying the FQDN of the internal machine
[19:13] <naryfa> oneliner: start software-center from terminal and see what it cries about
[19:14] <Roasted_> sipior, bingo. IP found.
[19:14] <carandraug> Hi! I have a question about disabling the root account. From what I read on the man page, usermod -l will only disable the password and I should use -e 1 to disable the account. Will this mess up on restart of the computer? Will the system be able to use the root account o start services?
[19:14] <Roasted_> sipior, so what does that mean?
[19:14] <sipior> Roasted_: can you pastebin the contents of /etc/resolv.conf?
[19:14] <Roasted_> sipior, I dont need this on my other ubuntu server...
[19:14] <Roasted_> sipior, Ill just type it, as its only 2 lines
[19:14] <sipior> all right.
[19:14] <Roasted_> #generated by network manager - line 1. nameserver 10.52.1.2 - line 2
[19:14] <Roasted_> 1.2 is our DNS
[19:15] <oneliner> what i though, it has a python dependency it cant find
[19:15] <oneliner> pygtk
[19:15] <sipior> Roasted_: try adding a "domain" entry. actually, just use the same resolv.conf as the working ubuntu box.
[19:15] <sipior> mutatis mutandis, of course.
[19:15] <acicula> fisch246: eh ok, well broadcom wirelses cards can be a bit iffy, if it works out of the box with natty it might just be worth it to switch, any particular reason you switched back to ubuntu 10.10?
[19:16] <naryfa> oneliner: there you go
[19:16] <Flummoxed>  nh
[19:16] <centHOGG> b43-fwcutter
[19:16] <Roasted_> sipior, thanks! got it working!
[19:16] <acicula> PowerTux: well that is a proxy server, so yeah it'll see it
[19:16] <fisch246> acicula: well i've been using 10.10, and that's where all my stuff is
[19:16] <sipior> Roasted_: great
[19:16] <maria> I am running Ubuntu 10.04 on my PC. Everytime I go to update I get this error. http://paste.ubuntu.com/590910/ Can someone help me to fix this
[19:17] <PowerTux> acicula: i can see only the redirect page from squidGuard, and i see it on /var/log/squid/access.log
[19:17] <fisch246> acicula: you sure it's not a driver issue?
[19:17] <acicula> fisch246: can you pastebin the output from lspci in a console, i can have a look at how to get it working under 10.10
[19:17] <acicula> fisch246: its a driver issue alright, otherwise youd be seeing wirelses ap's at the very leastr
[19:18] <naryfa> maria: did you upgrade your distro from anything lower?
[19:18] <brontosaurusrex> any comments on nfs vs ssh transfer speed?
[19:18] <maria> naryfa, no, I did a fresh install
[19:18] <acicula> PowerTux: i dont know anything about squidGuard or what you mean by a redirect page. If you run a proxy server on your network like squid and its set to log requests then you can view whatever it is set to log
[19:19] <fisch246> acicula: http://pastebin.com/AAh0zwEj
[19:19] <raido> brontosaurusrex: Id guess NFS if its configured well
[19:19] <erUSUL> brontosaurusrex: ngfs should be faster if anything because encryption overhead in ssh. also you are comparing apple to orenges nfs is a network filesystem. ssh is not
[19:19] <PowerTux> anyone knows about squidGuard ?
[19:20] <fisch246> acicula: hm... never knew you could get this info from lspci
[19:20] <maria> naryfa, any idea what could be causing that error?
[19:20] <fisch246> acicula: i thought it was just for video cards and the like
[19:20] <acicula> fisch246: it does what it says, list everything on the pci(e) bus
[19:20] <brontosaurusrex> erUSUL, uhmm, so something like 'connect to server' in nautilus or sshfs wouldnt count as network filesystem?
[19:20] <fisch246> acicula: ah ok
[19:21] <fisch246> acicula: btw i'm using the broadcom STA driver
[19:21] <acicula> fisch246: dunno what that means
[19:22] <fisch246> acicula: there's 2 drivers i can pick from... one is STA the other is B43
[19:22] <fisch246> acicula: i've been told STA is better
[19:22] <acicula> fisch246: aside from the fact that its not working :0
[19:22] <erUSUL> brontosaurusrex: well i would count sshfs in "neat hack thnaks to fuse" category not in the network filesystem one ;P
[19:22] <naryfa> maria: I'm trying to find out
[19:22] <acicula> fisch246: did it work with the B43 driver?
[19:22] <acicula> fisch246: if you dont know can you try
[19:22] <naryfa> maria: is it during apt-get update?
[19:23] <fisch246> acicula: yea sure i'll install it now
[19:23] <brontosaurusrex> erUSUL, yeah, can you see any practical differences?
[19:23] <maria> naryfa, yes, during update
[19:23] <erUSUL> brontosaurusrex: as i said nfs is bound to be faster
[19:24] <fisch246> interesting... i thought STA was under free license...
[19:25] <acicula> fisch246: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[19:25] <fisch246> acicula: found the network... and connecting... connected :D
[19:25] <arthurbrazil> acicula, Thanks I cleared the lease file and that did the trick.
[19:25] <acicula> fisch246: BCM4312 is listed as b43 and not as STA
[19:25] <brontosaurusrex> erUSUL, ok, thanks, is it a huge pain to install server (still on karmic) and client (maverick)?
[19:25] <fisch246> acicula: ah ok
[19:26] <fisch246> well i'll use B43 from now on then
[19:26] <fisch246> thanks
[19:26] <acicula> fisch246: i dont know if sta is a free driver or not, that wiki page i linked seems to suggest its not
[19:26] <acicula> arthurbrazil: excellent :)
[19:27] <rodhash> Hello Guys.. Where does cheese save the vidoes / photos? I mean, in which path?
[19:27] <Starminn> rodhash: ~/.gnome2/cheese somewhere in there?
[19:27] <acicula> arthurbrazil: do remember that this doesnt filter unknown mac addresses, anyone connected can still assign him/herself an ip and connect
[19:28] <arthurbrazil> acicula, do you have anymore information on filtering thru dhcp by any chance?
[19:28] <rodhash> Starminn: it's not there..
[19:29] <acicula> arthurbrazil: dhcp is not meant for access control to a network. if that is what you require you should look for other approaches
[19:29] <arthurbrazil> Oh alright, at leat this is a good start I guess
[19:29] <Starminn> rodhash: IS there not a folder in there for "media"?
[19:29] <rodhash> I found it.. ~/Videos... hauahuaha
[19:30] <Starminn> rodhash: Ah. Smarter than you thought ti was!
[19:31] <geekbri> can anybody see an obvious reason my cron job doesn't seem to be going off?      0 */4 * * *     reporting source /etc/web/conf.d/stage2_loader_toolbar_reporting.env && /home/reporting/trunk/crons/stage3_loader_toolbar_reporting.sh 2>&1 | /usr/bin/logger -t stage3_loader_toolbar_reporting
[19:31] <acicula> doesnt crontab -e warn you of syntax edits?
[19:31] <geekbri> im not using crontab -e im editing /etc/crontab directly
[19:32] <raido> geekbri: well, you need the full path to the executable as proper crontab syntax, I also beleive that crontab dissallows pipes
[19:33] <rodhash> Thanks guys.. have a nice day..
[19:33] <raido> geekbri: youre better off makin that a script and having cron execute the script
[19:33] <volvering> http://aircrack-ng.org/doku.php?id=compat-wireless i did make what on this page and now nothing work
[19:33] <geekbri> raido: yeah i was trying to avoid that but i guess i'll have to do that again.
[19:35] <ruan> is there a way to mount a drive to a location without using the hard disk space?
[19:36] <raido> ruan: ?
[19:36] <acicula> ruan: that doesnt make any sense, do you want to mount a drive in read only mode?
[19:36] <ruan> eg. i want to mount drive1 on drive2, but without making drive2 lose space
[19:36] <muelli> hihi
[19:36] <raido> ruan: it wont
[19:37] <ruan> hmm. why am i losing 30gb then
[19:37] <ruan> from my other hdd
[19:37] <ruan> got to test unmounting it though
[19:38] <ruan> ok nevermind
[19:38] <Memphizzz> Hi all! i got a weird problem. its related to my graphics card i think. the second monitor always looks weird when i start compiz. i have to go to display settings, disable monitor 2 and enable it again, then everytring is fine.. is there any way to automate that on start?
[19:38] <guntbert> ruan: if you use a directory with files in it as mount point those files will be inaccessible
[19:38] <acicula> volvering: what distribution are you using
[19:38] <volvering> acicula, ubuntu
[19:38] <volvering> maverik
[19:39] <volvering> acicula, maverik
[19:39] <brontosaurusrex> erUSUL, interesting, ftp is like two times faster than ssh, kinda big difference...
[19:39] <root__> hello
[19:40] <ruan> my home dir takes up 50 gb >_>
[19:40] <geekbri> i think i hate cron :)
[19:41] <H4gbard> hi
[19:41] <ohzie> brontosaurusrex: but ssh is still better. :3
[19:41] <tjiggi_fo> Hi H4gbard , root__
[19:41] <acicula> volvering: and what is broken/not working anymore?
[19:42] <guntbert> H4gbard: don't irc as root
[19:42] <volvering> acicula, the rtl8187 card dont work properly no... even not detect all the reds..
[19:42] <acicula> volvering: what kernel did you boot?
[19:43] <H4gbard> re .. forgot to turn it off .. sry ^^
[19:43] <acicula> brontosaurusrex: well one of those uses encryption, so a speed difference should not really be a surprise
[19:43] <brontosaurusrex> ohsix, on intranets i dont see why use ssh for huge files over ftp?
[19:43] <volvering> acicula,  what do u mean?
[19:43] <brontosaurusrex> acicula, sure, but not 2x difference?
[19:44] <guntbert> H4gbard: just a general word of warning :)
[19:44] <ohzie> brontosaurusrex: tab twice so you don't set off the poor man's hilight. :( Some people value security.
[19:44] <acicula> volvering: the page you linked explains how to patch and build a custom kernel well over 3 years old, did you boot that custom kernel
[19:44] <brontosaurusrex> ohzie, INTRAnets
[19:44] <ruan> how do i get wine's file manager to show hidden folders?
[19:45] <volvering> acicula, i think yes
[19:45] <brontosaurusrex> anyway, with that speed difference i think i will try to setup nfs as well
[19:45] <H4gbard> i know i know.. thx a lot ;) this is my second time in irc :(
[19:45] <acicula> brontosaurusrex: well ftp is limited by your disk speed or the smallest pipe in the route, encryption is limited by the speed by which your processor can add
[19:45] <guntbert> H4gbard:  Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[19:45] <Andrew_> hey
[19:45] <Andrew_> hi guys
[19:45] <Guest97860> I have a question
[19:46] <H4gbard> no guntbert. i only want to see how this works.. i think the questions are coming while working
[19:46] <ohzie> brontosaurusrex: I use it on my intranet at work because all I need to do is have ssh working and I don't have to set up an ftp server
[19:46] <guntbert> H4gbard: have fun :)
[19:46] <Guest97860> DLNA servers,what app doea ubuntu offer in this dept?
[19:46] <brontosaurusrex> acicula, actually my comparision is bad, i should use the same client for both, like filezilla, and see whats up with that
[19:46] <H4gbard> thx a lot :)
[19:46] <acicula> volvering: then the solution would be to boot the kernels provided with ubuntu and stay well clear of ancient kernels ;)
[19:47] <volvering> acicula, i start  from where it say  "$ wget http://wireless.kernel.org/download/compat-wireless-2.6/compat-wireless-$(date -I).tar.bz2"  untilll "$ sudo make wlunload"
[19:47] <mang0> Guys I need a site where I can upload 10gb of data free.....any ideas?
[19:47] <acicula> brontosaurusrex: yeah but you do see that the speed difference is arbitrairely determined by the speed of your hdd/network vs your cpu
[19:47] <Guest97860> I see mediatomb is available but that does not convert I think
[19:47] <guntbert> H4gbard: another word of caution: you should not do everyday work as root at all
[19:47] <acicula> get a cpu thats twice as fast or an i7 with aes instructions and you see different speeds
[19:47] <ohzie> mang0: I don't think that exists.
[19:47] <gribouille> hi
[19:47] <brontosaurusrex> acicula, no i dont, my client cpu is well inside green zone
[19:48] <mang0> crap...if it doesnt it means i have to buy a new harddrive
[19:48] <volvering> acicula, someone on this page redirect me to that page to patch the rtl8187 for work with aircrack
[19:48] <mang0> :/
[19:48] <gribouille> I have grub (version 1) and install grub-pc. when I install tha package, upgrade-from-grub-legacy is automatically called. what does that mean ?
[19:48] <volvering> acicula, coz of this error   http://trac.aircrack-ng.org/ticket/742
[19:48] <acicula> volvering: i understand what you are doing, but building custom kernels is not supported, if you must have the special features for aircrack consider using a distribution that is designed for it?
[19:48] <acicula> volvering: like backtrack
[19:49] <H4gbard> guntbert: u are right, but i ve updated something so i was root ;) btw: is there anything like a man for irssi-commands?
[19:49] <Guest97860> anyone here use media streaming at home?
[19:49] <volvering> acicula, ok i understand now .. so how to delete the change i made?
[19:49] <acicula> volvering: just deleting the custom kernel from /boot and the modules from /lib should do it
[19:50] <guntbert> H4gbard: I don't know about irssi, but as for updates: learn to use sudo/gksudo
[19:50] <acicula> volvering: maybe the kernel make file comes with a uninstall option
[19:50] <acicula> volvering: mind you dont remove all modules from /lib/modules/ , just the ones for your custom kernel
[19:50] <ruan> H4gbard: irssi? what are you looking for
[19:50] <DJones> H4gbard: Try typing /help in your irssi status window
[19:50] <H4gbard> ok ill do :) so ill try google and help :)
[19:51] <llutz> H4gbard: http://www.irssi.org/documentation
[19:51] <Guest97860> I'm not running ubuntu yet so can not search on that os
[19:51] <brontosaurusrex> Guest97860, i play movies from server to client sometimes
[19:51] <Guest97860> do you have problems streaming?
[19:51] <acicula> mang0: you can get some free storage , but not 10Gb, unless you use something like google mail to store your data, but that wouldnt be very reliable since its against the eula
[19:52] <Guest97860> or do you use a dedicated programme or server?
[19:52] <H4gbard> thx for the hints.. the url was really easy. i had to think about that by myself *grr*
[19:52] <brontosaurusrex> Guest97860, with fullHD movies i can get over the limit of the wireless network yes, what problems?
[19:52] <Guest97860> no probs as yet
[19:52] <volvering> acicula, mmmm i dont know how to catch them..
[19:52] <brontosaurusrex> Guest97860, nothing dedicated, this are just two pcs
[19:52] <daniel__> Whoa... new to Xubuntu, what is Xchat? A chat program for linux only people?
[19:53] <acicula> mang0: you have some freebies with amazon cloud storage and at dropbox
[19:53] <brontosaurusrex> daniel__, irc client
[19:53] <mang0> hm?
[19:53] <brontosaurusrex> daniel__, like mirc on windows for example
[19:53] <gribouille> isn't it possible to chainload grub-pc anymore ?
[19:53] <DJones> daniel__: Its windows & linux irc client
[19:53] <mang0> basically
[19:53] <Guest97860> just bought a new sony bravia tv
[19:53] <Guest97860> ,will buy new pc soon and also a home theatre,just want to be sure if I install and run ubuntu on the new pc I'll be able to play back music to hts
[19:53] <mang0> i need to partition my D drive for ubuntu. ATM my d drive is backup
[19:53] <acicula> volvering: installing a kernel leaves a kernel image,initrd, system map file in /boot and a directory with modules under /lib/modules with the name of the custom kernel version
[19:54] <Starminn> daniel__: You can use it on Windows too.
[19:54] <acicula> if you delete those and reupdate grub it should be gone
[19:54] <rhalff> hi I have random crashes, in general, last one was when I tried to mount a cd, any clues what kind of hardware could be failing ? most obvious the memory maybe ?
[19:54] <janska> hello , i just migrate from ubuntu 1010 2 xubuntu and  i lost sound where i can get it again (sorryu 4 bad ENG)
[19:54] <volvering> acicula,  or to do just this steps as is mentioned on the page? Uninstalling the package
[19:54] <volvering> Should you be in any way dissatisfied with the new drivers, you can uninstall them very easily and return to your default wireless kernel drivers:
[19:54] <volvering> $ cd compat-wireless-$(date -I)
[19:54] <volvering> $ sudo make uninstall
[19:54] <volvering> $ sudo make wlunload
[19:55] <FloodBot1> volvering: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:55] <acicula> volvering: that should work
[19:55] <brontosaurusrex> Guest97860, what kind of servers are supported by this hts?
[19:55] <Guest97860> home theatre system/hts
[19:55] <acicula> rhalff: well its always a bit of a guess, but memory is a good place to start. Is this a standard ubuntu installation or do you have any custom (compiled) software, also does the entire system crash or just some programs
[19:56] <Guest97860> there's a service,mezzmo
[19:56] <Guest97860> organises your libraries for you but only runs windows
[19:57] <janska> such a guru, &  nobody doesnt try to help
[19:57] <Guest97860> I'm wanting to know if there's a similar app for ubuntu
[19:57] <Guest97860> found one called mediatomb
[19:57] <volvering> acicula, that dont work! it say there is no rule
[19:57] <Guest97860> but it does not transfer files into readable format
[19:57] <acicula> volvering: you have to make sure you are in the same directory as where the files are that you unpacked
[19:57] <jiltdil> how to text chat via terminal?
[19:57] <ohzie> Guest97860: I think Vuze is multiplaform. Does it run on Ubuntu?
[19:58] <Guest97860> so would have to do each one on a use basis
[19:58] <gribouille> when I install grub-pc, upgrade-from-grub-legacy is called automatically. how can I prevent this ?
[19:58] <Starminn> ohzie: Yeah
[19:59] <Guest97860> don't want to pay for widows if I can get full function from ubuntu
[19:59] <ruan> vuze is in the repos
[19:59] <Starminn> ohzie: Search Vuze in Software Center and you're done
[19:59] <brontosaurusrex> Guest97860, how about a lil hardware like wdtv?
[19:59] <Guest97860> used vuze b4
[19:59] <jiltdil> how to text chat via terminal if i have an ip of my friend?
[19:59] <ohzie> Starminn: I don't need it, I was suggesting it to Guest97860.
[19:59] <Guest97860> didn't tsake to it
[19:59] <ohzie> Starminn: but thank you
[19:59] <DasEi> jiltdil: checkout irssi
[20:00] <janska> ppc, da i huy s vami sam razberus/ a eshe ubuntu - vse drug drugu pomogayut ---------- naxuy
[20:00] <DasEi> jiltdil: checkout irss
[20:00] <DasEi> jiltdil: oh, wait , non irc ?
[20:00] <acicula> gribouille: grub-pc is nto compatible with version 1 of grub
[20:00] <Guest97860> yh,guess I'll wait until I can get ubuntu installed,then can see what's on offer there
[20:01] <Starminn> DasEi: He could ssh? (I know nothing about ssh, thus my suggesting it to you)
[20:01] <ohzie> jiltdil: It would be best to get that friend to log into a chat network like irc or aim, and use irssi or naim respectively. Alternatively, you can SSH into his box or he can SSH into your box and you can echo "" | wall eachother to your hearts' content.
[20:01] <DasEi> Starminn: my mind , or vpn, thus irc or not must be clear
[20:01] <Guest97860> ty guys,bye for now
[20:01] <acicula> H4gbard: please dont PM, just ask your questions here
[20:02] <jiltdil> Daesi:ohzie:thanx but please tell how to uose irss
[20:02] <gribouille> acicula, and ?
[20:02] <ohzie> jiltdil: man irssi
[20:02] <H4gbard> acicula: it was only a test
[20:02] <DasEi> jiltdil: you just got his IP or you want t irc over terminal ?
[20:02] <jiltdil> ohize:ok
[20:02] <gribouille> DasEi, when I install grub-pc, upgrade-from-grub-legacy is called automatically. how can I prevent this ?
[20:02] <jiltdil> Daesi:no i asked only about irssi,please tell me how to chat if i had his ip
[20:02] <DasEi> gribouille: idk
[20:03] <gribouille> DasEi, you should
[20:03] <rhalff> uhm question, is it correct that I cannot switch to a console with ctrl + alt + function key anymore in the beta version of ubuntu ? I'm booting straight into X and I don't get a login shell on the other consoles
[20:03] <acicula> gribouille: you probably have version 1 of grub installed, which is why it insists on running that upgrade to grub2
[20:03] <Starminn> !natty | rhalff
[20:03] <XOXO1> how to get gnome3 on ubuntu?'
[20:03] <gribouille> acicula, but it wasn't tha case before
[20:03] <DasEi> jiltdil: irssi is a irc messenger for terminal, so that's not your option, google teamspeak
[20:03] <acicula> gribouille: the description of grub-pc is pretty clear on it not being compatible with grub-legacy(version 1_
[20:04] <gribouille> acicula, I don't want to install grub2
[20:04] <Starminn> XOXO1: Only an old version at the moment, or on 11.04
[20:04] <jiltdil> Daesi: ok thanx
[20:04] <Starminn> !info irssi
[20:04] <XOXO1> im on 10.something
[20:04] <acicula> gribouille: then you can not install the grub-pc package
[20:04] <Starminn> XOXO1: Only an outdated version so far. You can run Fedora 15 Alpha and use it though, but again, not on Ubuntu 10.*
[20:05] <XOXO1> ok
[20:05] <gribouille> acicula, just look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 : it says that you can upgrade to grub2, but you don't have to
[20:05] <acicula> gribouille: correct
[20:05] <gribouille> acicula, but that's not what happens
[20:06] <gribouille> acicula, if you install grub-pc, you're upgraded automatically to grub2
[20:06] <acicula> gribouille: if you do not install grub-pc you will not have to upgrade right
[20:06] <gribouille> acicula, but with grub1, there is no entry for my Windows XP
[20:06] <gribouille> in the menu.list
[20:07] <acicula> gribouille: if you check the description, grub-pc is the package containing grub2
[20:07] <lwizardl> what would be considered the best linux mail reader for multiple mail accounts??
[20:08] <txomon> Hi, does anyone use any documenting tool?
[20:08] <Starminn> !Best | lwizardl
[20:08] <Starminn> lwizardl: I use Thunderbird, though, because I got used to it in Windows and saw no need to switch.,
[20:08] <acicula> so if you do not want to install version 2 of grub then do not install the grub-pc package. If your windows is not detected by grub the first step is usually to ensure that windows is properly shutdown
[20:09] <acicula> ie, boot windows and then make sure it shutsdown cleanly
[20:09] <gribouille> acicula, of course it does
[20:09] <gedO> hi guys
[20:10] <gedO> my hdd is falling
[20:10] <acicula> gribouille: i dont understand , off course it does what?
[20:10] <txomon> so does anyone use anything to document?
[20:10] <gribouille> acicula, shutdown correctly
[20:10] <gedO> I get error "Realocated sectour Count"
[20:10] <gedO> Any way to fix this???
[20:10] <Starminn> txomon: Further define "document" and maybe they can help more.
[20:10] <acicula> gribouille: can you try anyway and then try running update-grub?
[20:11] <lovesthethianood> im tryign to follow this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1570791 how do i figure out what port number i should use for my local port and the iphone port? in sudo iproxy <local port> <iPhone port>
[20:11] <txomon> Starminn: document from "document a project"
[20:11] <gedO> Guys how to check my hdd with smartmontools???
[20:11] <acicula> gedO: what is the error
[20:11] <acicula> gedO: smartctl
[20:11] <gedO> acicula: "Realocated sectour Count"
[20:12] <acicula> gedO: or under administration -> disk utility
[20:12] <Starminn> txomon: I'm leaving, I was just suggesting. ;)
[20:12] <Pici> txomon: You're still being quite vauge.  Are you asking about documenting a software project that you've written, or something else entirely different.
[20:12] <Domingo> do you know how could I use my usb modem Huawei e1550 with this OS?
[20:12] <gedO> acicula: How I could fix this error???
[20:12] <sivam> is there any command to display all tcp configuration options like timeout,  send buffer, receive buffer, etc
[20:13] <acicula> gedO: that number represents reallocated sectors to compensate for broken secots
[20:13] <lovesthethianood> im tryign to follow this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1570791 how do i figure out what port number i should use for my local port and the Iphone port? in sudo iproxy <local port> <iPhone port>
[20:13] <sivam> is there any command to display all tcp configuration options like timeout,  send buffer, receive buffer, etc
[20:13] <gedO> acicula: any way to reduce that number?
[20:13] <gedO> acicula: lets say with nuke
[20:13] <gedO> ?
[20:13] <gribouille> acicula, ok
[20:14] <acicula> gedO: nope
[20:14] <gedO> acicula:  is that dangerous to use this hdd longer?
[20:14] <ayecee> gedO: why, what is the number now?
[20:15] <orbarron> asking this again --> does anyone know why ubuntu 64bit does not install on Dell XPS 630i? -- 10.4, 10.10, 11.04 -beta does not work from CD, DVD, or USB install
[20:15] <neverblue> can someone suggest an easy to setup FTP server for Ubuntu please ?
[20:15] <gedO> ayecee: 2033
[20:15] <ayecee> orbarron: no. what happens when you try?
[20:15] <acicula> gedO: you probably want to replace the disk as soon as possible
[20:15] <lovesthethianood> im tryign to follow this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1570791 how do i figure out what port number i should use for my local port and the iphone port? in sudo iproxy <local port> <iPhone port>
[20:15] <ayecee> gedO: it's not critical, but yeah, that's a predictor of future problems.
[20:15] <brontosaurusrex> neverblue, pure-ftpd
[20:15] <ayecee> gedO: but mostly if the number goes up.
[20:15] <orbarron> ayecee: i get to the install screen then see a black screen with a cursor on the top left side of my display
[20:16] <orbarron> ayecee: after that nothing happens.. I am forced to reboot
[20:16] <gedO> ayecee: any softwsare to write 0 or 1 on thouse bad sectors?
[20:16] <ayecee> orbarron: Let's see if I understand. You get to the usb boot screen and launch the installer, then the screen goes blank with a flashing cursor?
[20:16] <ayecee> gedO: for what purpose?
[20:17] <acicula> gedO: you can tell the disk firmware to remap sectors as good using a low level format, but it does not fix the drives surface. best to just shell out for a new drive
[20:17] <gedO> ayecee: to awoid for system use
[20:17] <ayecee> gedO: awoid?
[20:18] <gedO> avoid
[20:18] <ayecee> gedO: is your disk reporting bad sectors now, or are you just concerned about the reallocated sector count?
[20:18] <neverblue> brontosaurusrex: thx
[20:18] <txomon> Pici: I am talking about documenting all work, from meetings to software releases, going by ways things work, all stuf
[20:18] <txomon> stuff*
[20:18] <gedO> ayecee: every time I boot S.M.A.R.T. tells me about thouse sectors
[20:19] <Pici> txomon: Ah. I misunderstood the use of 'project' there, sorry.
[20:19] <gedO> so I'm looking for a way to fix them
[20:19] <gedO> or reduce
[20:19] <acicula> gedO: reallocated count means the drive is compensating for bad sectors
[20:19] <Domingo> do you know how could I use my usb modem Huawei e1550 with this OS?
[20:19] <gedO> or something
[20:19] <ayecee> gedO: they can't be fixed, but they're not causing a problem at the moment aside from the warning.
[20:19] <brontosaurusrex> txomon, dokuwiki maybe
[20:19] <ayecee> gedO: you can get rid of the warning only by replacing the disk
[20:19] <txomon> Pici: np... I have asked in #ubuntu-es and they talked me about doxygen
[20:19] <gedO> okey
[20:19] <Pici> txomon: cool beans
[20:19] <gedO> THX for info :)
[20:19] <asadeddin> Hey all... Quick question. What's the python-xml package called? I can't find it :/
[20:20] <ayecee> asadeddin: maybe python-libxml2
[20:20] <Domingo> do you know how could I use my usb modem Huawei e1550 with this OS?
[20:20] <lavon> hello
[20:20] <asadeddin> let me try that out
[20:20] <asadeddin> thanks
[20:21] <ayecee> Domingo: what is the usb id? you can find it with "lsusb", it's in the format xxxx:xxxx
[20:21] <lavon> hey can any one tell me how to use archive manager to download vuze
[20:21] <Domingo> I am writing from windows.
[20:21] <ayecee> Domingo: could you try from linux?
[20:22] <nit-wit> lavon, is it a deb not the one in synaptic?
[20:22] <lavon> it's snyaptic
[20:22] <Domingo> there's no internet there. my modem is working well from windows and there is no wifi here :(
[20:22] <txomon> brontosaurusrex: and which is the difference between that and a normal wiki?
[20:23] <orbarron> ayecee: yes
[20:23] <nit-wit> lavon click install and use it why would you need gthe file manager?
[20:23] <ayecee> orbarron: have you tried disabling acpi?
[20:23] <nit-wit> *archive manager
[20:23] <lavon> ok
[20:23] <orbarron> ayecee: no.. thought it would be a simple as installing 32bit version
[20:24] <orbarron> ayecee: 32bit works with no issues
[20:24] <lavon> also i did not know that ubuntu had live chat
[20:24] <nit-wit> lavon, I like deluge myself, they should both install and be in the menu.
[20:24] <brontosaurusrex> txomon, it is a normal wiki, this one is flat-file databased thought, so basically you can copy/paste it to say local enviroment - server ect
[20:24] <lavon> ok
[20:24] <ayecee> orbarron: oh, this is only for the 64bit?
[20:24] <txomon> brontosaurusrex: ah! ok
[20:24] <txomon> thats nice for CVS
[20:25] <ayecee> orbarron: I don't really have any suggestions, then
[20:25] <acicula> Domingo: from what i can grasp by googling is that it shouldm work with a current version of ubuntu. You can try this out yourself by creating a livecd or usbstick and booting that
[20:25] <lavon> also after i extract the files what should i do after that i dont know which folder to use
[20:25] <ayecee> Domingo: it seems like this might apply to your problem: http://forums.vr-zone.com/software-internet-zone/448188-how-enable-huawei-e1550-usb-3g-dongle-ubuntu-9-04-a.html
[20:26] <Pici> !es | edgarx
[20:26] <root_> hello
[20:27] <root_> Please I' m new in Backtrack , and i have some question ^^
[20:27] <the67pc> ./join #ferror
[20:27] <root_> but I can't find Backtrack Chat room
[20:27] <ayecee> root_: I think there's a #backtrack-linux channel
[20:27] <ayecee> !bt
[20:28] <ayecee> doh, wrong link.
[20:28] <Pici> ayecee: Thats the right channel name
[20:29] <root_> Ok Thank's , and ... Can I join Backtrack's Room on root ?
[20:29] <neverblue> if I want to find all commands containing group, what is the command to query them all ?
[20:29] <ayecee> root_: I don't know. try?
 thank you very much!
[20:29] <ayecee> neverblue: I'm not sure what you mean, could you rephrase?
[20:29] <root_> Cannot join #backtrack-linux (You are banned)
[20:30] <root_> WTF ?
[20:30] <acicula> you are root
[20:30] <kramble> neverblue, try apropos group
[20:30] <root_> how to create a new user ?
[20:30] <wang_> 大家好
[20:30] <acicula> and/or unregistered
[20:30] <neverblue> kramble: yes, thanks
[20:30] <Nero-> wow
[20:30] <den2st> Âñåì äîáðîãî âðåìåíè ñóòîê! Íàðîä ïîìîãèòå ÷àéíèêó ïîñòàâèòü GRUB
[20:30] <Nero-> just installed kde
[20:30] <wang_> I am china
[20:30] <ayecee> root_: yup, it looks like you can't join as root.
[20:30] <Nero-> amazing
[20:30] <ayecee> root_: probably shouldn't irc as root anyways
[20:31] <wang_> 有中国人没
[20:31] <ayecee> !cn | wang_
[20:31] <IdleOne> root_: #backtrack-linux bans users who run irc as root
[20:31] <root_> who are arabic here ?
[20:31] <Pici> !sa | root_
[20:32] <HelloWorld321> #unicode
[20:32] <jaeddu> does anyone know why the ubuntu software center wont let me download oracle virtualbox?
[20:33] <Nero-> what is it saying
[20:33] <root_> thx IdlOne ,
[20:34] <root_> thx Ayecee , and everybody for your help ^^
[20:34] <jaeddu> unsafe item
[20:34] <jaeddu> let me get more accurate. sorry
[20:34] <Nero-> .
[20:35] <acicula> jaeddu: its not included in the ubuntu repositories
[20:35] <txomon> brontosaurusrex: I just looked the wiki you suggested, and it is not intended to be what I am trying to find, as the main wiki uses a CVS, and I was thinking about implementing it in the project's CVS
[20:35] <acicula> jaeddu: you will have to go to the oracle virtualbox website and add their repository for ubuntu
[20:36] <rww> !gpg-err | jaeddu
[20:36] <rww> !gpgerr | jaeddu
[20:36] <jaeddu> ok. i literally tried it 10 time from the software center and from oracle website. to no avail. i just tried again and its working
[20:36] <rww> lol computers.
[20:37] <bastidrazor>  heh
[20:37] <shazbotmcnasty> ^ what he sai
[20:37] <shazbotmcnasty> d
[20:37] <brontosaurusrex> txomon, i dont follow you, but i imagine you could integrate the flat-file database into CVS
[20:37] <jaeddu> random ftw!
[20:37] <shazbotmcnasty> what happened here
[20:37] <jaeddu> thank all!
[20:37] <k3yhol3> heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[20:37] <shazbotmcnasty> hi.
[20:37] <txomon> brontosaurusrex: I was thinking about integrating ALL wiki in the project
[20:38] <brontosaurusrex> txomon, and why not?
[20:39] <k3yhol3> 2 and a half man... very cool
[20:39] <superroot>  /quit
[20:39] <LjL> k3yhol3: what?
[20:39] <txomon> brontosaurusrex: that wiki would have it's own pages revision history, and the versioning system also
[20:40] <vacho> my ubuntu server is using a bunch of swap so it slows down the entire server,,, what to do????
[20:40] <Jibadeeha> when i try to mount my external hard drive (ntfs format) i get this error message "Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 21:" ... it works on my other ubuntu laptop but not this one ... anyone know what exit code 21 one means .. i've tried googling it but nothing
[20:40] <kitche> vacho: see what's using all the swap you might have a leak
[20:40] <k3yhol3> hey... are u nerds?
[20:40] <shazbotmcnasty> no.
[20:41] <LjL> k3yhol3: please use #ubuntu-offtopic for chat
[20:41] <vacho> kitche: how can I find out?
[20:41] <k3yhol3> [LjL]: why?
[20:41] <przemek_> hi there
[20:41] <Pici> k3yhol3: This is a support channel.
[20:41] <LjL> k3yhol3: because here it is Ubuntu technical support only.
[20:41] <kitche> vacho: what this server running?
[20:41] <vacho> kitche: lamp and webmin,virtualmin
[20:42] <kitche> vacho: try looking at php apache or webmin first places I would check really
[20:42] <acicula> Jibadeeha: how are you mounting the drive?
[20:43] <lavon> after i extract files from archive  what should i do i get a whole bunch of folders txt files and wine and coffee images and dont know what to do what should i do
[20:43] <vacho> http://screencast.com/t/nzFdonWAH
[20:43] <vacho> kitche: v
[20:43] <vacho> kitche: http://screencast.com/t/nzFdonWAH
[20:43] <searayman> How can i watch mlb.tv 2011 on ubuntu? It wont play infirefox
[20:43] <Jibadeeha> acicula, just plugin it in and normally it would auto mount but now i get that error .. i have tried it from the command line mount -t ntfs -v /dev/sdb1 /mnt .... it just doesn't do anything and returns back to the command prompt without mounting it
[20:43] <neverblue> brontosaurusrex: would you be able to help me with the pureftpd setup for a moment ?
[20:44] <brontosaurusrex> txomon, i cant see a problem with that.....
[20:44] <lavon> hello
[20:44] <brontosaurusrex> neverblue, ask
[20:45] <neverblue> brontosaurusrex: I am using this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureFTP and after the command: "sudo pure-pw mkdb" I get the error: "Unable to open the passwd file: No such file or directory"
[20:45] <acicula> Jibadeeha: odd, whats the error you get when you double click the disk in places?
[20:45] <kitche> vacho: I would look into apache myself I stopped using their httpd myself but that appears could be the leak
[20:45] <bars_tt> Всем привет
[20:45] <txomon> brontosaurusrex: my group is using svn... and I hate crashes, merges and those things... so I need that the wiki uses project svn to store pages and changes
[20:45] <Jibadeeha> acicula, it says "Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 21: "
[20:45] <LjL> !ru | bars_tt
[20:45] <vacho> kitche: hmm
[20:47] <acicula> Jibadeeha: connect the disk to the nearest windows machine and cleanly remove the drive
[20:47] <Jibadeeha> achillion, it doesn't show anything the /var/log/syslog either
[20:47] <acicula> Jibadeeha: via eject hardware or something called to that extend
[20:47] <Jibadeeha> acicula, will try that .. strange it works on my other ubuntu laptop though
[20:48] <neverblue> ha, there is a #pureftpd channel, but it requires invitation
[20:48] <neverblue> brontosaurusrex: can you offer assistance, else i will look elsewhere
[20:48] <ether_boy> why is facebook not accesible from any browser on ubuntu 10.10 over ADSL network internet
[20:48] <brontosaurusrex> neverblue, look elsewhere
[20:49] <neverblue> brontosaurusrex: gotcha, thanks again
[20:49] <acicula> Jibadeeha: could try administration->disk utility and see if it says anything, but mounting errors with ntfs ussualyl come from uncleanly removed filesystems
[20:50] <lavon> HELLO IAM TRYING TO INSTALL VUZE AND IKM USING THE ARCHIVE MANAGER WHEN I DO THAT AND EXTRACT THE FILES I GET STUCK WHAT SHOULD I DO PLEASE HELP
[20:50] <aeon-ltd> ether_boy: as in shows nothing or can't connect?
[20:50] <acicula> !caps
[20:50] <neverblue> lavon: the use of CAPs is assumed to be shouting in IRC, i suggest not using them
[20:50] <aeon-ltd> lavon: if its source compile
[20:50] <aeon-ltd> !compile | lavon
[20:50] <meganerd> Jibadeeha: you might want to install ntfsprogs, then use ntfsfix on the partition that is giving you grief.
[20:50] <ether_boy> aeon-ltd, the page shows after i clear browser cache but the ajax stops working soon after I start browsing
[20:51] <xangua> lavon: how about you install it from software centre
[20:51] <lavon> ok
[20:51] <Nero-> wow kde runs slow
[20:51] <lavon> thank you and sorry for shouting
[20:51] <Nero-> need better comp
[20:52] <Nero-> lavon: vuze?
[20:52] <lavon> yeah what's wrong with vuze
[20:52] <Jibadeeha> acicula, works fine on Windows XP and just tried it on Linux again and still the same problem :(
[20:52] <Nero-> transmission is more integrated
[20:53] <Nero-> and better imo
[20:53] <Nero-> its already installed too
[20:53] <Jibadeeha> meganerd, will give it go
[20:53] <slaps> I find Transmission to be a bit of a bottleneck sadly.
[20:53] <meganerd> Transmission works great for me
[20:53] <lavon> hey how doi i use transmission
[20:54] <meganerd> click on a .torrent link, it should start up
[20:54] <Nero-> yep
[20:54] <Nero-> lavon: theres lots of stuff already installed
[20:54] <ether_boy> anyone here facing problem while accessing facebook on ubnuntu 10.10?
[20:54] <lavon> give me torrent link please
[20:54] <Nero-> ether_boy, no
[20:55] <furlan026> hellow
[20:55] <meganerd> ether_boy: nope, I am on facebook with 10.10 right now
[20:55] <Nero-> http://torrents.thepiratebay.org/6301890/80_Black_and_White_nice_wallpapers.6301890.TPB.torrent
[20:55] <Jibadeeha> meganerd, says /dev/sdb1 was processed successfully ... but still comes up with error 21:   i am convinced it is to do with my ubuntu installation as the usb drive works on my other ubuntu laptop and windows xp laptop
[20:55] <Nero-> same
[20:55] <Nero-> facebook works fine
[20:55] <ether_boy> Nero-, meganerd : what kind of internet connections do you have?
[20:55] <meganerd> Jibadeeha: have you tried manually mounting it?
[20:55] <Nero-> public
[20:56] <meganerd> ether_boy: at home I have a 15mbit cable connection
[20:56] <Nero-> lavon, http://torrents.thepiratebay.org/6301890/80_Black_and_White_nice_wallpapers.6301890.TPB.torrent
[20:56] <Nero-> whats it doing?
[20:56] <An_Ony_Moose> I set the xfce panel to always group tasks and now it complains about a floating-point exception when I try to restart it. Where are its config files so I can undo the change?
[20:56] <meganerd> ether_boy: right now I am using a 3g connection
[20:56] <Nero-> ether_boy, whats it saying
[20:56] <Nero-> ether_boy, or not doing right
[20:56] <Jibadeeha> meganerd, yeah it doesn't even output anything and just returns to the prompt
[20:57] <acicula> Jibadeeha: dont know then, maybe due to different ubuntu version?
[20:57] <meganerd> Jibadeeha: try this: "sudo mkdir /mnt/test"
[20:57] <acicula> Jibadeeha: or does the disk show up in dmesg when you plug it in?
[20:57] <meganerd> Jibadeeha: then "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /mnt/test"
[20:57] <ether_boy> Nero-,  Facebook on my ubuntu 10.10 stops responding soon after I login, The login page refuses to appear evry now and then. Evrytime I need to clear the browser cache to see the facebook login page
[20:58] <meganerd> Jibadeeha: that is assuming the drive is /dev/sdb1, use the appropriate device
[20:58] <meganerd> ether_boy: what browser and what version?  I have had problems with Chrome and facebook, though those problems are on all the platforms I have tried
[20:58] <Jibadeeha> meganerd, just tried what you said it just doesn't come back with anything
[20:59] <Jibadeeha> meganerd, when i do a df it isn't mounted
[20:59] <meganerd> Jibadeeha: no errors?
[20:59] <Jibadeeha> meganerd, none :(
[20:59] <meganerd> Jibadeeha: what about "dmesg |tail"
[20:59] <ether_boy> meganerd, this happens with all the browsers I have installed on ubuntu 10.10 (firefox, chrome)
[20:59] <Nero-> hardware?
[20:59] <Vincenzo> hi
[20:59] <Nero-> brb rebooting
[21:00] <meganerd> ether_boy: I generally use Firefox with Facebook.  3.6.xx worked fine, 4.x is working great right now
[21:00] <Jibadeeha> meganerd, nothing in dmesg | tail
[21:00] <meganerd> Jibadeeha: nothing at all?
[21:00] <Jibadeeha> acicula, it shows that the device was plugged in
[21:00] <Vincenzo> i want to install ubuntu 10.10 but it don't recognize mouse and keyboard PS2... in windows xp both work... can someone help me?
[21:01] <Jibadeeha> meganerd, i just tailed /var/log/syslog and tried to mount again and it doesn't even make an entry in the logs
[21:01] <ether_boy> meganerd, all the other websites work fine, got no issues so far, It;s just the facebook that behaves wierd!!??? I have to use some other operating system just to use facebook.
[21:01] <meganerd> Jibadeeha: "tail -f /var/log/messages" while plugging in the drive
[21:02] <meganerd> ether_boy: something is wrong with your setup, I have facebook working fine on 4 different computers with 10.10
[21:02] <Nero-> back
[21:02] <meganerd> ether_boy: I assume that you have already verified that it is not an addon?
[21:02] <Jibadeeha> meganerd, i get all the usual "attached scsi ...." but there is an entry that says "[sdb] Test WP failed, assume Write Enabled"
[21:02] <Nero-> same addon in both chrome & firefox?, cant be
[21:03] <meganerd> Nero-: I have noscript in both
[21:03] <Vincenzo> i want to install ubuntu 10.10 but it doesn't recognize mouse and keyboard PS2... in windows xp they work... can someone help me?
[21:03] <Nero-> :(
[21:03] <Nero-> my bad
[21:03] <Nero-> well I do admit I don't use both
[21:04] <meganerd> Nero-: as well as flashblock and xmarks
[21:04] <ether_boy> meganerd, no addons were installed, just the java plugin and flash plugin, I have installed ubuntu several just to chk this problem
[21:04] <Nero-> Hey ether_boy, do you have javascript enabled?
[21:04] <ether_boy> Nero-, yes, javascript is enabled
[21:04] <Nero-> meganerd, my bad was not thinking
[21:04] <Nero-> and it happens in chrome and firefox?
[21:05] <ether_boy> Nero-, yes, facebook works fine for a while when I clear all the cache
[21:05] <meganerd> ether_boy: I have always had problems with Facebook and Chrome, but Firefox has been rock solid.  Have you tried downloading FF from mozilla.com, and running it manually?
[21:06] <Nero-> try updating to ff 4
[21:06] <meera> I installed on xp unbuntu 11.4 now i have participation 30/40 on hd but it works very slow. how can i exchange this tempo? so that hd works faster?
[21:06] <ether_boy> meganerd, yes, I actually upgraded few hours back but no luck
[21:06] <YankDownUnder> (Can't get on Facebook => OMG! REINSTALL!!!) :)
[21:07] <acicula> meera: are you using wubi?
[21:07] <ether_boy> I have got FF4 and chrome 10 installed at present
[21:07] <meera> no wubi unbuntu with grub
[21:08] <acicula> meera and you are testing your hard drive speed how
[21:08] <oCean> meera: 11.04 is still beta, support in #ubuntu+1
[21:08] <Nero-> acicula, there is a way in disk utility
[21:08] <meera> ok
[21:09] <acicula> Thanx Nero-
[21:10] <spyder48>  /EXEC cd $HOME/.xchat2/buduscript && ./install.sh
[21:13] <spyder48> 		/load .xchat2/budus.so
[21:14] <scud> I'm not sure if I like the unity shell or not
[21:14] <scud> I'm on 11.04 right now
[21:14] <aeon-ltd> scud: well do you like the look?
[21:15] <YankDownUnder> More than enough links pointing to how to switch from Unity to just about anything else...
[21:15] <scud> aeon-ltd: I love the look
[21:15] <scud> the bar to the left is different
[21:16] <Pici> : Natty/11.04 is not yet released. Please join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion.
[21:16] <aeon-ltd> scud: then are you or do you feel more productive? if yes then you like it :)
[21:16] <bug_> hi
[21:16] <Jibadeeha> have just removed ntfs-3g and now it mounts the ntfs partition - strange
[21:17] <sTaTiC> Can anyone tell me where i could find a list of all channels?
[21:17] <scud> aeon-ltd: I think I well like it more once I get use to it. I'm not saying I hate it or it sucks, it is just a different feel is all
[21:17] <scud> well/will
[21:17] <YankDownUnder> sTaTiC, Depends on your IRC client, but you can try : /list
[21:17] <oCean> !alis | sTaTiC
[21:17] <Pici> !alis | sTaTiC
[21:17] <sTaTiC> I'm using empathy to do it :) but might start working on ircii
[21:18] <kernix> hi all
[21:18] <Pici> scud, aeon-ltd: Can we move the Natty discussion to #ubuntu+1 or to #ubuntu-offtopic? People are still looking for stable support here in #ubuntu
[21:18] <sTaTiC> : /list
[21:18] <sTaTiC> damn XD
[21:18] <bug_> exit
[21:18] <bug_> bay
[21:18] <Vincenzo> ubuntu 10.10 doesn't recognize mouse and keyboard PS2, how can i install ubuntu?
[21:18] <scud> Pici: it is just a conversation, I'm not asking for support.
[21:19] <YankDownUnder> Vincenzo, Have you checked all your BIOS settings...? Just to be sure?
[21:19] <sTaTiC> I hate being a green user haha. Then again everyone starts sh*t
[21:19] <Pici> scud: And #ubuntu is for support only.
[21:19] <guntbert> Vincenzo: did you try with the live CD (before trying to install)?
[21:19] <Vincenzo> no, how can i chek BIOS settings YankDownUnder
[21:19] <guntbert> !language | sTaTiC
[21:19] <Vincenzo> guntbert, i try live CD
[21:19] <YankDownUnder> Vincenzo, Um...mate, do you not know how to get into the BIOS of your computer?
[21:20] <sTaTiC> Alright dude will do *oops
[21:20] <Raikia> Vincenzo: Are your keyboard and mouse USB or other?
[21:20] <Vincenzo> yes, i know
[21:20] <scud> Pici: So I'm confusing everyone by even mentioning the word unity?
[21:20] <Vincenzo> Raikia, PS2
[21:20] <scud> Pici: I'm causing no harm. The conversation is over anyways.
[21:20] <guntbert> scud: you are filling the channel with non support related talk
[21:21] <Vincenzo> YankDownUnder, i know, what i have to do in BIOS settings ?
[21:21] <byoungmn> Vincenzo: Did it work under the live CD
[21:21] <speaker> hello everyone
[21:21] <scud> I understand the point but I don't agree with it. Bunch of people joining and quiting with 2 questions
[21:21] <Raikia> Vincenzo: Did you look at: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=186689
[21:21] <scud> whatever man
[21:21] <Vincenzo> byoungmn, no, they doens't work
[21:22] <YankDownUnder> Vincenzo, Mate, CHECK your BIOS settings => if anything, READ the documentation that pertains to your motherboard or your laptop. I can't think for you, I can only offer a suggestion.
[21:22] <Vincenzo> byoungmn, ii want to install ubutnu 10.10 from live CD
[21:22] <kernix> what the command for install adobe flashplayer on cli
[21:22] <speaker> using Ubuntu 8 on a tablet PC.. anyone know how to enable tablet functions.. or a good site .. looking for a light version of Ubuntu
[21:22] <guntbert> YankDownUnder: please tone down - no need to be unfriendly
[21:23] <YankDownUnder> guntbert, Hmm...I'm being unfriendly...right...thanks for that, I"ll go sit in the corner now.
[21:24] <ubuntu> hi
[21:24] <xsodia> arabic ?
[21:24] <ubuntu> noo
[21:26] <marknigh> Hi y'all, I jacked up a UNITY feature somehow. I don't think it's a bug. Trying to open any folder through UNITY. Click on upper left logo, opens search page, click on find files. When you select a folder it tries to open with Vinagre.
[21:26] <xsodia> where are you bot arabic ? xD
[21:26] <mitras2> hi
[21:26] <mitras2> I have a question:
[21:26] <mitras2> I just set up Ubuntu and now I would like to route the default "Documents"-Folders onto my third partition.
[21:26] <mitras2> I have tryed to erayse the bookmark inside nautilus and replace it with the new folder on the third partition, but Software like OpenOffice still wants so save the files to the "Documents"-Folder inside my User directory.
[21:26] <mitras2> Can anyone tell me how not only to change the bookmark, but how to route the standart-"Documents"-Folder onto an other partition ?
[21:26] <FloodBot1> mitras2: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:26] <ubuntu> l
[21:26] <xsodia> don't found my favorites channels :s
[21:26] <oCean> !ar | xsodia
[21:26] <guntbert> !arabic | xsodia
[21:26] <oCean> guntbert: yeah, that too :)
[21:27] <randomuser-field> mitras2 fyi best practice  is to route /home to third partition during install.
[21:27] <guntbert> oCean: :)
[21:27] <mitras2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/590962/
[21:27] <mitras2> need help
[21:27] <ether_boy> facebook not accessible (page refuses to load) on ubuntu 10.10 any browser, clearing cache solves the problem for a few clicks, any particular reason? rest all the websites work fine
[21:30] <YankDownUnder> ether_boy, Install dnscache-run (sudo apt-get install dnscache-run), reboot - or restart your network connection. Make sure your browser does NOT have a proxy setup. Try that.
[21:30] <ether_boy> YankDownUnder, ok, trying that right now
[21:30] <randomuser-field> mitras2 use your desired partition as home and br done with it
[21:30] <lavon> hey is there any thing that comes with ubuntu that teaches how to program
[21:31] <iceroot> lavon: manpages
[21:31] <xsodia_> pliiz what is backtrack's server ?
[21:31] <mitras2> randomuser-field: how can I use my third partition as home?
[21:31] <leapy0yo> hi
[21:31] <iceroot> !backtrack | xsodia_
[21:32] <leapy0yo> mv is mostly a rename command, right? is there a way to move but also change the owndership of the file using only one command?
[21:32] <randomuser-field> mitras mount the partition cp home to it then add it to fstab
[21:32] <leapy0yo> or to change the ownership of a file using cp?
[21:32] <iceroot> leapy0yo: no
[21:32] <Success> where is /proc ?
[21:33] <iceroot> Success: /proc
[21:33] <acicula> lavon: there are some howtos, but really the best is to just grab an introductionary text to programming
[21:33] <llutz> :D
[21:33] <Success> it says like /pro/cpuinfo or something
[21:33] <Success> how do I get there
[21:33] <iceroot> Success: that is the path
[21:33] <iceroot> Success: cd /proc
[21:33] <iceroot> Success: less /proc/cpuinfo
[21:33] <mitras2> randomuser-field: sry - I'm new to Ubuntu. I dont know the Terminal-comands
[21:34] <iceroot> Success: leave less with "q"
[21:35] <acicula> since /proc/cpuinfo is just a file you can jsut open it via the filebrowser in gedit
[21:35] <soreau> When I set gconf key /desktop/gnome/remote_access/alternative_port to something other than the default 5900 and enable use_alternative_port, I no longer can connect with vncviewer locally via LAN. If I disable use_alternative_port, it works. How can I change the port and still have it work? (or why does it break?)
[21:35] <Chilaquiles> hey guys I have a problem with my ubuntu, I'm using Ubuntu 10.10 and the battery stopped reading, I know it works because when I disconnect the charger I can keep using the computer, but the battery led is flashing red, any sugestions?
[21:35] <leapy0yo> is there a way to cp or copy and also change the ownership of the file?
[21:36] <llutz> leapy0yo: no
[21:36] <aeon-ltd> leapy0yo: write a script?
[21:36] <Chilaquiles> is there any way to reset the battery
[21:36] <iceroot> leapy0yo: i already told you its not possible
[21:37] <Chilaquiles> something happen to the battery of my laptop
[21:37] <iceroot> Chilaquiles: ##hardware
[21:37] <marknigh> Too much traffic. I'm out!
[21:37] <Chilaquiles> the problem is not in hte battery
[21:37] <Chilaquiles> is in Ubuntu
[21:37] <acicula> marknigh: you can filter channel events, pretty readable then
[21:37] <iceroot> Chilaquiles: ubuntu is not controlling the led on your notebook for the battery
[21:38] <soreau> I have restarted vino server and the machine but still can't connect when remote_access port is set to anything other than 5900
[21:38] <acicula> soreau: ehm, are you connecting on the alternative port? what does netstat stay about the port/iprange it listens on
[21:38] <Chilaquiles> I just want a way to reset the battery metter
[21:38] <Chilaquiles> meter
[21:38] <Success> LMAO
[21:38]  * Success SUPER-FACEPALM
[21:38] <Success> my really nice desktop has no vt-x
[21:38] <soreau> acicula: When I restart vino, it says it's listening on the alternative port I set but I can't connect from the other machine
[21:39] <Success> but my old laptop does
[21:39]  * Success bangs head against wall several times
[21:39] <acicula> soreau: if you type sudo netstat -tulpna in a terminal can you see the port?
[21:39] <soreau> acicula: From which box? client or server?
[21:39] <acicula> Success: welcome to intel marketing,should have bought amd
[21:39] <acicula> soreau: the server
[21:40] <Success> what's intel-amd
[21:40] <acicula> soreau: what it outputs is all sockets currently open and by which process
[21:40] <vish> are there any good guides/wiki about how to edit .ui files? (I'm looking to edit a toolbar's .ui and use a custom icon there)
[21:41] <teemo> i updated ubuntu, and my firefox is gone, and i have this weird blue-iconed namoroka browser?
[21:41] <soreau> acicula: Currently, I unchecked use_alternative_port so it's working with 1637/vino-server \n tcp6       0      0 192.168.5.101:5900      192.168.5.201:34853     ESTABLISHED
[21:41] <gibbster> Hi guys. I need help configuring my ethernet card. lspci shows me my ethernet controller, but I don't know what to do from here.
[21:41] <anasule> I have an Alfa AWUS051NH  is the rt2800usb the right driver?
[21:41] <soreau> acicula: .101 is the server, .201 is the current client
[21:41] <ether_boy> YankDownUnder,  installed dnscache-run and rebooted system but facebook still not responding
[21:41] <teemo> how can i get firefox 4.0 on my system?
[21:41] <xangua> !fx4 | teemo
[21:41] <acicula> Success: soreau there should also be a listeing port
[21:41] <acicula> *listening
[21:41] <junixbr> is there some command to check the integrity of all my packages installed?
[21:42] <soreau> acicula: tcp6       0      0 :::5900                 :::*                    LISTEN
[21:42] <andai> If i open an image in Ristoretto in a folder with lots of images, it seems to load them into ram to create the thumbnails... then keep them there... just had ristoretto running at 900mb ram
[21:42] <soreau> acicula: Again, this is while in the default working state
[21:42] <hipu> soo....i'm a noob (to penguin), and i think i accidentally my entire java 6 jre/openjdk installation
[21:42] <YankDownUnder> ether_boy, If it's ONLY Facebook, repeat ONLY Facebook, then there has to be an issue with DNS on your network/router/modem, don't ya reckon?
[21:42] <acicula> soreau: k, now change it and check the port it listens on again?
[21:42] <hipu> is there anyone who can help me with this?
[21:42] <soreau> acicula: Alright
[21:43] <acicula> junixbr: debsums can do that
[21:43] <andai> hipu... reinstall java? :P
[21:43] <teemo> so whats Namoroka?
[21:43] <junixbr> acicula, let me try
[21:43] <hipu> i installed java over top of openjdk, and it would not work, so i uninstalled java, and now apt-get won't work
[21:44] <iceroot> hipu: errors to pastebin please
[21:44] <acicula> hipu: how did you install java on top of openjdk?
[21:44] <soreau> acicula: Ok, I enabled use_alternative_port and now netstat is showing it's listening on the port I set..
[21:44] <hipu> haha i just installed it acicula
[21:44] <acicula> hipu: via apt-get or did you use something
[21:44] <acicula> else
[21:44] <hipu> and iceroot i suppose i could make some errors....lemme try
[21:44] <ether_boy> YankDownUnder, I have got windows installed on the same machine using the same network, facebook runs fine on them!
[21:45] <iceroot> hipu: just show use with usefull details what "apt-get wont work" means
[21:45] <soreau> acicula: And haven't restarted vino. The current instance of vncviewer is still working but if I try to start another instance, it says connection refused
[21:45] <acicula> soreau: can you paste the line?
[21:45] <acicula> from netstat i mean
[21:45] <soreau> acicula: tcp6       0      0 :::12850                :::*                    LISTEN
[21:45] <hipu> acicula i used apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin
[21:45] <stefg> !wontwork
[21:45] <teemo> so where did firefox 4.0 install?
[21:45] <hipu> and i'll get right on that icerrot
[21:45] <teemo> i still have namoroka
[21:45] <acicula> soreau: if you connect to that port via netstat can you connect?
[21:45] <hipu> iceroot
[21:45] <stefg> !doesntwork
[21:46] <acicula> soreau: also you do not have any ipv4 configured or are you consciously ignore ipv4?
[21:46] <acicula> *ignoring
[21:46] <soreau> ! work | stefg
[21:46] <theacolyte> Sorry, this is a horrible question, but I can't find the answer - is there a way to set a global .mailrc?
[21:46] <theacolyte> The user I'm sending using doesn't have a home directory
[21:46] <acicula> i meant connect via netcat or telnet or anything you like
[21:46] <YankDownUnder> ether_boy, Mate, the joke I made earlier is a very pointed statement; This is not Windows, and whether or not Windows works is not the issue; the issue is that a single site, i.e., Facebook, does not work properly under Ubuntu. Having removed all other issues, browsers and plugins and the likes, you have to then think about the actual network and network related issues, and therefore, resolve those issues firstly.
[21:47] <teemo> its Minefield?
[21:47] <soreau> acicula: I don't know how to 'connect to that port via netstat' and I haven't done anything out of the ordinary with ipv4 AFAIK
[21:47] <soreau> acicula: I don't know how to connect via netcat or telnet
[21:47] <wfaulk> I'm having trouble getting audio output over HDMI.  I've had it woring before with another Ubuntu installation, but I can't make it happen now
[21:47] <gibbster> hey guys. My ethernet card works when I boot ubuntu live, but not when I do a regular startup. Anyone know why?
[21:48] <acicula> soreau: how are you normally connecting from the client ?
[21:48] <wfaulk> the audio devices seem to show up properly, and speaker_test seems to work, other than no audio being produced on the speakers
[21:48] <stefg> ether_boy: DNS resolving problems come to mind ... you windows and your ubuntu might have different DNS servers configured
[21:48] <soreau> acicula: vncviewer <SERVER IP>
[21:48] <acicula> soreau: and when you change the port how do you connect
[21:48] <soreau> acicula: Same way
[21:48] <YankDownUnder> ether_boy, So, in lieu of those facts, I'd try to make use a change to your DNS servers in your connection; you can add a Google DNS server, which is 8.8.8.8, to your existing DNS server(s), restart your network connection, and try again.
[21:48] <acicula> soreau: you need to specify the different port
[21:48] <filipe_> salut
[21:48] <soreau> acicula: Do I need <SERVER IP>:<PORT> ?
[21:48]  * soreau tries
[21:49] <SmogExtreme> Buenas tardes
[21:49] <acicula> soreau: eh depends on how vncviewer expects arguments
[21:49] <acicula> soreau: ip:port is a convention, but maybe it requires -p or --port etc
[21:49] <SmogExtreme> Estimados programadores del software libre quisiera pedir un favor
[21:49] <soreau> acicula: Ah yes, that works
[21:49] <Derpie> can anyone help me resize ubuntu with gparted?
[21:49] <GOMI> need some help here , have a nvidia card and my screen is flickering ?  adjusted the resolution and refresh rate but still not working correctly
[21:49] <acicula> soreau: great :)
[21:50] <SmogExtreme> Donde encuentro el codigo fuente o parte de Unix ?
[21:50] <Derpie> Gparted tells me i should have 300 free gigs but when i boot ubuntu it says my home folder only has 500 free mb
[21:50] <aeon-ltd> SmogExtreme: espanol? /join #ubuntu-es
[21:50] <acicula> soreau: normally you dont need to specify the port because 5900 is an accepted default port, so if you change it on the server you will have to specify this on any client
[21:50] <ether_boy> YankDownUnder, I have tried using google dns servers and openDNS, but the problem lies on my machine. I have been facing this problem since the last 3 times I installed ubuntu 10.10. Facebook was working fine earlier. Both ubuntu 10.10 and Windows 7 professional are using the same DNS servers right now
[21:50] <SmogExtreme> Thank aeon-ltd
[21:50] <acicula> Derpie: 300GB unpartitioned space perhaps?
[21:50] <spyder48> the american
[21:51] <stefg> Derpie: is that a wubi install?
[21:51] <Derpie> stefg yes it is
[21:51] <hipu> acicula iceroot http://pastebin.com/K75HQxrr now it won't even let me lock....i don't have anything else open
[21:51] <GOMI> anybody here had a problem with nvidia card ??
[21:51] <hipu> acicula iceroot http://pastebin.com/K75HQxrr now it won't even let me lock....i don't have anything else open
[21:51] <hipu> oops
[21:51]  * hipu facepalms
[21:51] <saal_> why did my xchat change? the menus on the top are gone and now i cant access the logs?
[21:51] <acicula> GOMI: best to just describe the problem you are having
[21:52] <stefg> Derpie: that explains it.... your loop-file is not the same as a partition
[21:52] <Derpie> ah, how would i fix it?
[21:52] <Alexanderjb> I have a pretty modern nvidia card and after tweaking plymouth and grub, everything was cool
[21:52] <Logan_> saal_: Hit F9.
[21:52] <stefg> Derpie:  i'd suggest a real install
[21:52] <spyder48> il grinta
[21:52] <Alexanderjb> oh, and I think I have the proprietary drivers installed.
[21:52] <acicula> hipu: usually means apt-get is already/still running
[21:53] <Logan_> !it | spyder48
[21:53] <carbono> Hello everyone
[21:53] <Derpie> hmm well i am dual booting windows and ubuntu.  how would i do a full install without wiping windows?
[21:53] <acicula> hipu: or you have the software center open or something
[21:53] <acicula> !dualboot
[21:53] <carbono> can you help me_ i am really desperate_
[21:53] <stefg> Derpie: there are other ways, but wubi is actually just for evaluation purposes...
[21:53] <gibbster> Hey guys. Ethernet is working on ubuntu live but not on the regular bootup
[21:53] <Logan_> !ask | carbono
[21:53] <gibbster> how do I fix this
[21:53] <saal_> Logan_,  thanks it worked!
[21:53] <Logan_> saal_: You're welcome.
[21:53] <GOMI> screen flickers and it puts me back to login screen ???
[21:54] <Derpie> ooh i only used webui cus i dont have any blank dvds.
[21:54] <hipu> acicula nah i don't have anything open or running other than chromium and terminal
[21:54] <GOMI> i tried resolution en refresch rate but not helping
[21:54] <acicula> gibbster: tried enabling the network via the network applet?
[21:54] <hipu> acicula should i logoff and log back on?
[21:54] <stefg> Derpie: USB-stick?
[21:54] <gibbster> acicula: I'm running server, so no gui
[21:54] <acicula> hipu: well something is blocking it
[21:54] <soreau> acicula: vncviewer server_ip:port works from one box but not the other..
[21:55] <geraudk2000> Hi guy, please help me
[21:55] <geraudk2000> How do I download graphics driver for intel core i3? [Ubuntu]?
[21:55] <acicula> gibbster: well a headlses server isntallation is different from the livcd, you will have to configure the network
[21:55] <hipu> acicula brb imma log off and log back on real quick
[21:55] <geraudk2000> and install on ubuntu 10.10
[21:55] <carbono> I had dual boot with ubuntu and windows 7... I deleted the ubuntu partition today and now I cant load the windows 7. when i turn on my computer it gives me an Grub error 22! Because the partition was deleted and the grub was not unistalled... i only have a live cd for ubuntu.. how do i fix my windows boot_
[21:56] <acicula> soreau: ehm, if you disconnect any other clients will it let you connect then?
[21:56] <gibbster> acicula: do you know how to do that, or have a reference. I know that I'm using a via Rhine II
[21:56] <geraudk2000> please help me
[21:56] <acicula> carbono: with a windows boot cd
[21:56] <geraudk2000> How do I download graphics driver for intel core i3? [Ubuntu]?
[21:56] <gibbster> acicula: I tried modprobe via-rhine, but that didn't help
[21:56] <asadeddin_> carbono: reinstall ubuntu it will reinstall grub
[21:56] <acicula> geraudk2000: thats not needed
[21:56] <carbono> acicula where can i download one, since i dont have any
[21:56] <junixbr> acicula, it doesn't help me
[21:57] <junixbr> I have a problem with software-center
[21:57] <junixbr> I can not run this application
[21:57] <junixbr> I got a python error
[21:57] <carbono> hmm i will try asadeddin, and then how can i safely remove ubuntu_
[21:57] <soreau> acicula: It was an older version of ubuntu, thus older version of vncviewer and needed server_ip::port
[21:57] <acicula> carbono: your supplier of your windows installation should/has provided you with one, alternatively i believe it is possible to download windows 7 installation media directly from windows
[21:57] <soreau> acicula: Two colons, for whatever reason
[21:57] <soreau> acicula: Thanks again :)
[21:57] <acicula> soreau: your welcome
[21:58] <geraudk2000> acicula: I have a problem with my screen resolution. on my gateway intel HD graphics coire i3
[21:58] <carbono> i will install the ubuntu again so it reisntall the grub but then how do i safely remove the ubuntu partition_
[21:58] <ether_boy> YankDownUnder, I am still frustrated about facebook not working on ubuntu 10.10 though I appreciate your help. I should probably use trial and error method. I ll come back if I find the reason.
[21:58] <acicula> gibbster: eh you need to specifify your configuration settings in /etc/network/interfaces
[21:58] <Derpie> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10650264&posted=1#post10650264  has screenshot of my gparted if anyone wants to help
[21:58] <geraudk2000> acicula: I have black screen too
[21:58] <nopz> hi
[21:59] <asadeddin_> carbono:
[21:59] <nopz> i've just installer a vsftpd server and i got the 553 Could not create file.
[21:59] <gibbster> acicula: that's set up already. I think it has something to do with the driver, since it was working before I changed ethernet card
[21:59] <acicula> geraudk2000: how did you install ubuntu
[21:59] <asadeddin_> u say u've got windwos 7 right?
[21:59] <nopz> anon_root: /data/ftp
[21:59] <carbono> yes
[21:59] <carbono> yes
[21:59] <searayman> can somone help walk mem through installing mlbtv viewer
[21:59] <acicula> gibbster: you changed the network card?
[21:59] <carbono> asededdin yes
[21:59] <nopz> drwxrw---- 2 root root  4096 2011-04-07 22:39 ftp
[21:59] <asadeddin_> so u can actually delete the patition from there
[21:59] <carbono> ups sorry lag
[21:59] <acicula> gibbster: as in physically replaced it?
[21:59] <asadeddin_> after reinstalling ubuntu and grub.
[21:59] <gibbster> acicula: yes, well actually the whole motherboard, but that includes the ethernet card
[21:59] <asadeddin_> get into windows 7 and delete and merge the partitions
[22:00] <carbono> i deleted the partition from there and thats why i am having this trouble
[22:00] <asadeddin_> mmm....
[22:00] <asadeddin_> i see...
[22:00] <gibbster> acicula: (onboard)
[22:00] <acicula> gibbster: ubuntu keeps track of network interface cards
[22:00] <asadeddin_> one sec carbono
[22:00] <asadeddin_> let me search arround
[22:00] <seabird_> hi guys
[22:00] <hipu> acicula http://pastebin.com/QW357JM5 <<now it tells me that, and i run the --configure -a and nothing happens
[22:00] <gibbster> acicula: what do you mean?
[22:00] <searayman> are there different flash plugins?
[22:01] <acicula> gibbster: check /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[22:01] <hellsend> quit:
[22:01] <hellsend> :quit
[22:01] <stefg> Derpie: understand that a wubi install lives inside a *file* on your windows partition. so using gparted doesn't help. it's even dangerous to fiddle with the windows partition while you are using a *file* sitting on that very partition
[22:01] <hellsend> quit
[22:01] <acicula> gibbster: im guessing there is an eth0 and eth1 nic defined there
[22:01] <geraudk2000> acicula: normally, it's a current problem black screen ubuntu intel hd graphic
[22:01] <geraudk2000> acicula: core i3
[22:01] <soreau> acicula: Would you happen to know a reliable way to tell if a certain port is open?
[22:01] <asadeddin_> carbono: http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/how-to-safely-uninstall-ubuntu-in-windows-dual-boot-environment/
[22:01] <Derpie> Ooh I didnt know that.  Maybe I will just do a full wipe and only install ubuntu.
[22:01] <acicula> soreau: telnet port ip
[22:02] <asadeddin_> this should be of help for u
[22:02] <acicula> in a console
[22:02] <radiushelp> he anyone got experience setting up freeradius?
[22:02] <acicula> geraudk2000: please answer my questions, how did you install ubuntu
[22:02] <Derpie> If I use windows via vmware to play video games with they work just as fast?  have 8 gigs ram and core2 quad
[22:02] <root_> has any progress been made on a gui for quickly?
[22:02] <acicula> geraudk2000: ie did you use the standard installation, did you get graphics then, and what version
[22:03] <gibbster> acicula: thanks... this is looking interesting
[22:03] <stefg> Derpie: no, 3d support will only work reasonably fast on real hardware
[22:03] <Combatjuan> I'd like to script adding a user.  How can I do it such that I either specify full name etc on the command or avoid having to enter such information altogether?
[22:03] <acicula> radiushelp: radius servers are fairly serious beyond hobby help and well into well payed consultancy help
[22:03] <carbono> asadeddin it seems that all i need it's to access the command prompt of windows... can't i download a small boot cd to that_
[22:03] <hipu> acicula?
[22:03] <geraudk2000> acicula: standard installation with Cd live, ubuntu version 10.10
[22:03] <Combatjuan> On another note, is anyone here using Ubuntu on the AMD Fusion platform?
[22:03] <acicula> hipu: /
[22:04] <deunnero> Hey all... quick question.    Some files are getting saved to a shared folder  I have ubuntu running in virtual box with a folder being shared.   Now... I have clonezilla running and it's backing everything up to that shared folder thats mounted.  My issue is that for some reason..  The files are there but I can't see them :(
[22:04] <hipu> acicula http://pastebin.com/QW357JM5 <<now it tells me that, and i run the --configure -a and nothing happens
[22:04] <asadeddin_> i guess so... but when u delete ubuntu, it seems like u're deleting grub
[22:04] <asadeddin_> so u need a boot loader instead
[22:04] <root_> ubuntu in a chroot on Droid here.  yes, it rawks.  yes, i'm bragging.  sorry
[22:04] <acicula> geraudk2000: so you went through the rgaphical installer, rebooted and then black screen?
[22:05] <searayman> can somone help me get mlb.tv to work in ubuntu?
[22:05] <carbono> where do i get one_
[22:05] <root_> @searayman silverlight?
[22:05] <geraudk2000> acicula: it's a problem with intel Hd graphics + corei3
[22:05] <gibbster> acicula: It looks like that was the problem. Thanks!
[22:06] <asadeddin_> check out the article i put up
[22:06] <searayman> can somone help me get mlb.tv to work in ubuntu?
[22:06] <asadeddin_> here it is again:http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/how-to-safely-uninstall-ubuntu-in-windows-dual-boot-environment/
[22:06] <acicula> gibbster: always happy to help, remember that ubuntu does this every time you switch things like nics
[22:06] <ubuntu> me
[22:06] <root_> @searayman is mlb.tv in silverlight?
[22:06] <gibbster> acicula: can I edit the persistent rules file by hand?
[22:06] <seba_> Hi, Could somebody help me
[22:07] <gibbster> acicula: for now I just switched eth0 for eth1 in the interfaces file
[22:07] <gibbster> acicula: but I'd like it to go back to eth0
[22:07] <acicula> gibbster: yup, may have ti reboot for them to persist, just delete the old eth0 reference and rename the current eth1 to eth0
[22:07] <gibbster> acicula: cool. Cheers!
[22:07] <acicula> geraudk2000: what laptop do you have?
[22:07] <root_> anybodyknow how to get sound working in a chroot inside of android?
[22:07] <radius> anyone here setup a freeradius server?
[22:08] <seba_> I can add group for all user and the group has to password available
[22:08] <acicula> hipu: eh ok, what are you attempting to fix with -f?
[22:09] <geraudk2000> acicula: gateway NV59C
[22:10] <Combatjuan> seba_: Could you try restating that?  What do you want to do?
[22:10] <acicula> geraudk2000: and when did the black screen occur, until when was it working
[22:10] <searayman> can somone help me get mlb.tv to work in ubuntu?
[22:10] <mithridates> hey guys
[22:10] <hipu> acicula i was trying to fix the java installation, but after using sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre it kinda works
[22:11] <phsoftnet> hey everyone. i have the following question: suppose windows 7 is the host and ubuntu is running as a guest in vmware player. can ubuntu (guest) and windows (host) both have the same ntfs partition mounted at the same time? so that they have some common storage space?
[22:11] <mithridates> I'm trying to install gnome3 on maverick but I can't, I added ppa and installed couple of packages but I can't get into gnome3 it's still gnome 2.5
[22:11] <popey> phsoftnet: that sounds very unwise
[22:11] <hipu> acicula but now it has a screen with an agreement that i can't accept because the button doesn't work, and Y and enter don't work
[22:11] <acicula> searayman: what does the site use?
[22:11] <geraudk2000> achillion: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6587457&CatId=4965
[22:11] <geraudk2000> acicula: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6587457&CatId=4965
[22:11] <ubuntu> l
[22:12] <root_> @mith $gnome-shell --replace
[22:12] <achillion> geraudk2000: mistype?
[22:12] <searayman> acicula: just flash, but the games never load
[22:12] <ubuntu> ppl
[22:12] <phsoftnet> popey: so the only way to do that would be to export the ntfs partition from windows and mount it in ubuntu using samba?
[22:12] <acicula> geraudk2000: yeah i understand the model, no reason why it wouldnt work
[22:12] <mithridates> any idea about installing gnome 3 on ubuntu maverick?
[22:12] <geraudk2000> achillion: sorry it's a mistake
[22:13] <popey> phsoftnet: i am not familiar with vmware, but surely it has a file sharing option? virtualbox does
[22:13] <achillion> geraudk2000: no harm done :)
[22:13] <spyder48> the american
[22:13] <root_> can anybody read this?
[22:13] <hipu> root yes
[22:13] <acicula> hipu: page up or page down perhaps?
[22:13] <ubuntu>  all adress on radio  world online list where i found it?
[22:13] <seba_> restart not help
[22:13] <geraudk2000> acicula: the problem it's a driver for intel on ubuntu
[22:13] <phsoftnet> popey: i am not familiar either to be honest ... just yet
[22:14] <Clovis> Hi.. Ubuntu 10.10.  What is the best software available so I can use my webcam to record a video(with sound)?  Thanks!
[22:14] <hipu> acicula no dice...it's an agreement within terminal and i could pastebin it if you want
[22:14] <seba_> If I'm admin I can get into group
[22:14] <acicula> geraudk2000: i dont understand what you mean by that
[22:15] <seba_> but if I'm user ofter give password iI get Invalid password ;/
[22:15] <acicula> geraudk2000: did you manually install a driver? for an i3 with integrated graphics you dont have to do anything in terms of adding drivers
[22:15]  * \Jan\ hunts for a way to list pending security updates on a system.
[22:15] <meganerdca> acicula: a recent i3 is not supported
[22:15] <fallore> i just restarted my computer while ubuntu 10.10 was running a big automatic software update, now i get to the log in screen but can't move my mouse or do anything with my keyboard. when i tried to reboot into recovery mode (the option at the grub screen) it didn't get past something about firewire
[22:15] <acicula> meganerdca: a sandy bridge i3 perhaps
[22:15] <meganerdca> acicula: the sandy bridge generation
[22:15] <acicula> meganerdca: but he has a nehalem i3
[22:16] <geraudk2000> acicula: no, But I want install but I don't have skill for it
[22:16] <acicula> or whatever the mobile core variant is named
[22:16] <meganerdca> acicula: ah, I have a nehalem i7 and a sandy bridge i5, been a fun week :)
[22:16] <Combatjuan> seba_: I still don't understand you.  What command are you running?
[22:16] <ubuntu>  all adress on radio  world online list where i found it?
[22:16] <meganerdca> acicula: my connection has been flapping, missed that critical part :)
[22:16] <acicula> geraudk2000: you dont have to/cant
[22:16] <root_> @fallore boot live cd, chroot into ubuntu install and apt-get update etc.
[22:16] <Clovis> Hi.. Ubuntu 10.10.  What is the best software available so I can use my webcam to record a video(with sound)?  Thanks!
[22:16] <geraudk2000> acicula: so I need your help to install
[22:17] <acicula> meganerdca: afaik natty has support for the newer hd's for awhile now
[22:17] <seba_> Comabjuan Can you tell with mi on priv
[22:17] <geraudk2000> acicula: if you a have a link for it please send me
[22:17] <acicula> geraudk2000: what happens when you boot ubuntu now?
[22:17] <stefan__> Hello everyone
[22:18] <mithridates> I've added ppa for gnome3 but I can't get gnome-desktop3 package from it :
[22:18] <mithridates> E: Unable to locate package gnome-desktop3
[22:18] <stefan__> Does anyone know, why my Ubuntu 10.10 returns to the login screen in 80% of the time when i want to shut down?
[22:18] <mithridates> any idea about installing gnome3?
[22:18] <xangua> mithridates: it's only for !natty
[22:18] <meganerdca> acicula: I have been playing around with natty on my SB i5, it is still a work in progress, even with the beta
[22:18] <acicula> \Jan\: apt-get upgrade lists any pending upgrades, not sure if it has an option to sort these by bugfix or priority security updates
[22:18] <geraudk2000> acicula: it's work if I connect another Screen (fine but not Good resolution)
[22:18] <meganerdca> acicula: it should be supported by natty by release, as well as Fedora 15
[22:18] <mithridates> xangua: but I've seen in in launchpad there is a package for maverick
[22:19] <mithridates> is it stable enough to use natty?
[22:19] <hipu> acicula do you think if i just did a fresh install it would be better? because i did *just* install ubuntu 10.10
[22:19] <mithridates> how's natty? can someone give me a feedback?
[22:19] <ubuntu>  all adress on radio  world online list where i found it?
[22:19] <soreau> acicula: Does 'telnet port ip' check for tcp or udp?
[22:20] <Galvatron> mithridates It's beta, so might cause problems
[22:20] <acicula> hipu: if you cant fix it thats definitly the quickest way
[22:20] <Clovis> mithridates, this isnt the place for that.. try #offtopic plz
[22:20] <Konnie> Hey everyone, I need some help with my fresh ubuntu installation
[22:20] <acicula> soreau: tcp only
[22:20] <mithridates> so I wait, Clovis I'm talking about ubuntu and it's not offtopic!!!!
[22:20] <acicula> soreau: you cant really connect with udp since its not connection oriented
[22:20] <Clovis> mithridates, ummmm.
[22:20] <soreau> acicula: Now I'm trying to connect from external ip but it says connection refused even though sys>prefs>remote desktop shows I can connect from some external-looking ip, however, it isn't what 'whatismyip.com' say it should be
[22:20] <hipu> acicula haha okay...and should i try for the 11.04 beta? or would that be for someone who actually knows linux lol
[22:21] <Clovis> this chan is for helping others, not feedback.. there are ppl in offtopic who will discuss that.. respect the channel plz
[22:21] <Galvatron> mithridates: Best add Gnome 3 PPA and sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude full-upgrade. Then log out and choose an apprioriate session.
[22:21] <Konnie> I could really use some help, long story short - my lappy boots to a black screen after I installed 10.10
[22:21] <acicula> hipu: dont try betas if you have trouble fixing stable releases ;)
[22:21] <Konnie> and I have literally no idea what could be causing it
[22:21] <soreau> acicula: I can ping this ip it says I should be able to connect from, but when I try vncviewer on it, it says connection refused
[22:21] <hipu> acicula haha okay thanks for the help :)
[22:21] <asadeddin_> quick thing: anyone have an experience with setting up openerp?!
[22:22] <mithridates> Galvatron: thank you!!!
[22:22] <soreau> Oh no, now it's gone back to only local ip's
[22:22] <soreau> hmm
[22:22] <Galvatron> Konnie: What laptop is it?
[22:22] <acicula> soreau: eh that depends on how you are connecting
[22:22] <asadeddin_> hey soreau
[22:22] <asadeddin_> i had this problem
[22:22] <asadeddin_> a solution that's quick and easy
[22:22] <Konnie> Sony Vaio Z, it might be a display issue since it has specialised gpu drivers
[22:22] <asadeddin_> is just to install x11vnc
[22:22] <asadeddin_> then ssh into the other machine
[22:23] <asadeddin_> and then type x11vnc and connect to it
[22:23] <acicula> geraudk2000: when you boot your laptop without a monitor connected does it show you the login screen?
[22:23] <meganerdca> soreau: asadeddin_ or just use nmap to verify that the port is listening
[22:23] <soreau> meganerdca: How with nmap?
[22:24] <meganerdca> sudo nmap -sV <ip of target> -p <port to check>
[22:24] <asadeddin_> i spent hrs yesterday trying to set this up, and nothing showed what was wrong to be honest. I just ran x11vnc instead
[22:24] <asadeddin_> made my life a ton easier
[22:24] <geraudk2000> acicula: no, I just get a black Screen
[22:24] <asadeddin_> not that vncviewer is bad or anything
[22:24] <asadeddin_> it's just not simple to setup
[22:24] <soreau> meganerdca: Awesome, thanks
[22:25] <asadeddin_> x11vnc has no setup :)
[22:25] <acicula> geraudk2000: but when you connect a monitor it shows the login screen on that monitor?
[22:25] <soreau> So the port is open, I wonder what else I have to do
[22:25] <Konnie> Galvatron: The laptop is a Sony Vaio Z, it's probably not an installation issue as I've done it through two live CDs and once through the windows installation software
[22:26] <geraudk2000> acicula: yes, I have login screen on both monitors
[22:26] <meganerdca> soreau: does it identify the service?
[22:26] <acicula> geraudk2000: both monitors?
[22:26] <soreau> meganerdca: I don't know
[22:26] <mithridates> Galvatron: that didn't work, didn't install gnome3 packages, is the source for ppa from apt-get different with aptitude?
[22:27] <cg2916> how do i make the grub command line switch from the primary to the secondary hard drive?
[22:27] <geraudk2000> acicula: yes, both monitors
[22:27] <acicula> geraudk2000: by that you mean two separate monitors or a monitor and your laptop screen?
[22:28] <geraudk2000> acicula: I have login Screen on a two separate monitors
[22:28] <soreau> meganerdca: How to check if it's identifying the service?
[22:28] <\Jan\> security, does anyone speak it?
[22:29] <acicula> geraudk2000: you have a login screen showing on the laptop screen and on the external monitor?
[22:29] <nopz> http://pastebin.com/3JwEQnmh
[22:29] <geraudk2000> acicula: yes It's Wonderful I know but it's true !
[22:30] <meganerdca> soreau: the nmap output, with the -sV flag should try and identify the service and version and not rely on the port number indicating the service.  You could use this to detect an ssh service listening on port 80
[22:30] <Galvatron> Konnie: Try downloading this (to your home folder): http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-260.19.44-driver.html, log into terminal (Alt + F1), kill X-server (sudo service gdm stop) and sudo sh ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-260.19.44
[22:30] <acicula> Konnie: dont do that
[22:30] <soreau> meganerdca: I don't understand what the 'service' would be here or the purpose of finding this information out
[22:30] <acicula> Galvatron: dont ever suggest that again, thats such a bad idea
[22:31] <Konnie> Dear god now I am so confused.
[22:31] <ubuntu4shane> I need some help troubleshooting my screen, I have an ATI card, and it goes white on me and I have to wiggle things around to get it back, I dual boot with windows, and never have this issue with windows, odd for me.
[22:31] <acicula> Galvatron: if you must use the drivers from nvidia directly at least use the provided --deb flags to properly install packages without hosing someones system permanetly
[22:31] <soreau> ubuntu4shane: wiggle things?
[22:31] <ubuntu4shane> Konnie: I don't think God is in this channel. :)
[22:31] <meganerdca> soreau: to see if some other software had that port open, or to indicate other kinds of failures.  Merely being "open" does not tell you a whole lot
[22:31] <geraudk2000> acicula: after boot on both screen I can separte the both monitors, then I works normaly in my laptop screen
[22:31] <soreau> meganerdca: Oh..
[22:32] <ubuntu4shane> soreau: well, I usually wiggle the laptop screen, but I'm not sure if that really fixes it.
[22:32] <acicula> geraudk2000: yeah i dont think there is anything wrong with your laptops drivers
[22:32] <soreau> meganerdca: Well I just want to connect with vncviewer to a remote (external) ip
[22:32] <ubuntu4shane> soreau: I thought it was a hardware issue (connection) before, but since it doesn't do it in windows, and frequently does this with ubuntu, I'm not sure now.
[22:32] <acicula> geraudk2000: nor do i understand what the problem is that you have/think you have
[22:32] <Konnie> acicula: So how do I use the provided -deb flags, and more importantly, what the hell are those but I can look that up.
[22:32] <Galvatron> acicula: I'm personally installing them as I mentioned and observed no problem
[22:33] <soreau> ubuntu4shane: When does it happen?
[22:33] <milamber> geraudk2000: this is standard behavior
[22:33] <acicula> Konnie: eh what is the problem you are trying to solve
[22:33] <geraudk2000> acicula: also I don't get a Good resolution on my screen
[22:33] <ubuntu4shane> soreau: plus it can happen when nothing is being touched, well, it just started doing it again.
[22:33] <ayecee> i'd like setup a test to verify disk is working by writing data out, then reading it back in and comparing. How do I avoid hitting the cache on this, and maybe getting misleading results?
[22:33] <soreau> meganerdca: For a second, vino-preferences showed some external ip to connect to, then I restarted it and it showed the local ip only again
[22:33] <acicula> Galvatron: the problem is not with the installing of the drivers, but with the fact that they ignore the ubuntu package manager and break subsequent upgrades or removal attempts
[22:33] <ubuntu4shane> soreau: it blinks and flashes very sporadically.
[22:33]  * kleinmeerkat slaps FloodBot1 around a bit with a large trout
[22:33]  * kleinmeerkat slaps FloodBot1 around a bit with a large trout
[22:33] <kleinmeerkat> vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv
[22:33] <ikonia> kleinmeerkat: please don't do that
[22:33] <kleinmeerkat> vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv
[22:33] <kleinmeerkat> vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv
[22:33] <FloodBot1> kleinmeerkat: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:33] <soreau> ubuntu4shane: I don't see why you would think it's a driver issue.. is there anything interesting in dmesg ?
[22:34] <\Jan\> /usr/lib/update-notifier/apt-check
[22:34] <geraudk2000> acicula: milamber the same problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1465764
[22:34] <Konnie> acicula: Laptop boots to black screen, multiple installations so that's not a problem, but funky GPU drivers a likely suspect
[22:34] <thevishy> in gnome session is it possible to use the KDE GUI's interface ?
[22:34] <ubuntu4shane> soreau: well, I don't think it is a driver issue, I don't really know what it is.
[22:34] <thevishy> maybe KDE's window manager
[22:34] <grepory> Are there any known issues with upgrading through update-manager to natty on 64-bit machines?
[22:34] <grepory> (that i couldn't find in bugzilla)
[22:34] <xangua> !natty | grepory
[22:34] <\Jan\> /usr/lib/update-notifier/apt-check is all you had to say robot!
[22:34] <acicula> Konnie: dual gpu laptop i presume?
[22:34] <grepory> aha. awesome
[22:35] <xangua> thevishy: aaah....start kde session¿¿
[22:35] <ikonia> grepory: natty isn't stable yet, so why don't you wait for it to be stable before asking if there are problems
[22:35] <soreau> ubuntu4shane: I would assume it's a hardware issue unless I saw something in logs or if it happened by running a certain command (not physical interaction, which indicates a short)
[22:35] <Konnie> acicula: it's a Sony Vaio Z, so yeah, fancy "Hybrid Graphics System" and all
[22:35] <grepory> ikonia: because i'd like to help with the beta, if i can. i'll join the recommended channel.
[22:35] <soreau> ubuntu4shane: Probably a short in the flat cable that connects the screen to the mobo
[22:35] <ayecee> how might I read data from a disk and ensure it's coming from the physical disk and not the cache?
[22:35] <Guest77049> hey
[22:35] <ubuntu4shane> soreau: http://pastebin.com/PptfPvhD  that is the dmesg tail
[22:35] <ikonia> grepory: you'd like to help with the beta, but you're asking for known problems....
[22:35] <Guest77049> help me
[22:35] <thevishy> xangua no just the wm I guess
[22:35] <Guest77049> help me
[22:35] <FloodBot1> Guest77049: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:35] <grepory> ikonia: nevermind.
[22:35] <Guest77049> help me
[22:35] <ikonia> Guest77049: stop it
[22:35] <ikonia> Guest77049: ask a question
[22:36] <\Jan\> punt time
[22:36] <Guest77049> HELP me
[22:36] <acicula> Konnie: do you see anything at all when you turn on the laptop?
[22:36] <soreau> ! repeat | Guest77049
[22:36] <milamber> geraudk2000: touchpad/suspend not working? you have to be *specific* most of the replies on that thread are "works great"
[22:36] <soreau> ! help | Guest77049
[22:36] <Konnie> acicula: I installed Ubuntu within windows, so I see the dual boot screen, I chose Ubuntu, it counts down - then black screen\
[22:36] <ubuntu4shane> soreau: see, I would agree, but it is extremely odd that it doesn't happen in windows, granted I don't boot into windows often, but recently had to, and it never did that in the fews days I used it to update, fix and clean up windows to do the one thing I booted into it to do.
[22:37] <[snake]> I have a ton of samples(audio) that can't be read. They are in wav format.
[22:37] <Galvatron> Konnie: Shpuld have started with the info it's a virtual system
[22:37] <[snake]> What do I do?
[22:37] <thevishy> what is nautilus equivalent in KDE ?
[22:37] <acicula> Konnie: k, ill have a looksie on google
[22:37] <soreau> ubuntu4shane: Well, you really should narrow down if it's hw issue or not because identifying the actually problem is an important first step
[22:37] <ubuntu4shane> soreau: and I have had nothing but problems with the ATI drivers in this laptop since I bought it, so that is where I may tend to lean for any problem
[22:38] <ubuntu4shane> soreau: agreed.
[22:38] <soreau> ubuntu4shane: What card is it?
[22:38] <muelli> thevishy: konquerer I think
[22:38] <Galvatron> thevishy	Dolphin
[22:38] <[snake]> Isn't there a program out there that tells you what type a file is regardless of the extension?
[22:38] <thevishy> thanks
[22:38] <muelli> ah yeah. Konqueror ist the web browser. Dolphin is the file manager.
[22:38] <geraudk2000> mindbeat: no when I boot on ubuntu I have a black screen
[22:38] <ubuntu4shane> soreau: ATI Radeon 3100 or HD3100 let me check
[22:38] <ikonia> [snake]: "file" is the command
[22:38] <soreau> ubuntu4shane: If you're using fglrx, remove it and try using the default open radeon driver
[22:38] <soreau> ubuntu4shane: Also, keep an eye on the card temp..
[22:39] <[snake]> ikonia, hmm... convenient :)
[22:39] <ubuntu4shane> soreau: Yes, I do that like a hawk, it used to overheat almost every time it was turned on, 100% driver related
[22:39] <kdub> havent heard about fglrx in a longgg time
[22:39] <geraudk2000> mindbeat: acicula the screen is black but I hear the sound of booting
[22:40] <soreau> ubuntu4shane: Try natty when it's released. There have been a ton of fixes in the radeon driver for the newer HD series radeons
[22:40] <ubuntu4shane> soreau: yep, I'm using fglrx, it has been a while since I tinkered around with this laptop, I installed well over 5 distros trying to find something that would work with the ati card, it was a nightmare.
[22:41] <ubuntu4shane> soreau: plan on doing that, Maverick was a big improvement over the the previous one, I was using a different distro that handled things really well, but had to come back to Ubuntu.
[22:41] <soreau> ubuntu4shane: fglrx is worse than the radeon driver, even if it's faster
[22:41] <[snake]> How do you read: "RIFF (little-endian) data, WAVE audio, stereo 44100 Hz" Files?
[22:41] <jMerliN> is it possible to have autofs use an rbind instead of a bind?
[22:42] <ubuntu4shane> soreau: that may be true, but it runs cooler, that is really the only thing that I have been concerned with for this laptop, given the overheating, I mean a 30 sec youtube video would overheat it before, sometimes, just booting it up would run it close, and opening more than one window was impossible
[22:42] <Scunizi> I occasionally use Tasque (remember the milk connector).  Looking into why it wasn't connecting today like it normally does I found /usr/lib/tasque/Tasque.exe ... why would a linux based program have a .exe??
[22:42] <Galvatron> ubuntu4shane: There's one X server for all the distros, so you should try a newer version of it, instead of changing distros.
[22:43] <ubuntu4shane> soreau: I hate to remove fglrx, because it overheats just installing it
[22:43] <acicula> Konnie: what vaio Z series do you have?
[22:43] <ubuntu4shane> Galvatron: I realize that to an extent, but changing/upgrading X isn't easy, Sabayon was the distro that handle things well, because it is bleeding edge.
[22:43] <soreau> ubuntu4shane: Natty.
[22:43] <geraudk2000> acicula: same problme : http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?32379-Intel-core-i3-HD-graphics-black-screen
[22:43] <thevishy> there is metacity icons and gnome 'control' ...is it possible to change this gnome control to what KDE uses ?
[22:44] <milamber> [snake]: do you have restricted extras enabled?
[22:44] <ubuntu4shane> soreau: I may upgrade, I usually jump in at the RC level anyway.
[22:44] <soreau> ubuntu4shane: If you still have problems with natty radeon kernel driver, ask in #radeon. There is some pm (power management) implementation you can use
[22:44] <geraudk2000> milamber: same probleme please help me : http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?32379-Intel-core-i3-HD-graphics-black-screen
[22:44] <Konnie> acicula:  not exactly sure what "series" there are, but VPCZ1190X is the full model name
[22:44] <Chilaquiles> ubuntu doesn't detect my battery, any suggestions?
[22:44] <newbie35> hello
[22:44] <ubuntu4shane> soreau: ok, thanks
[22:44] <[snake]> milamber, nope :P I wonder why I forgot them. lol
[22:44] <Galvatron> ubuntu4shane: In Ubuntu ypu have the repo called xorg-edgers
[22:45] <ubbo> hi all! I just installed Ubuntu LTS (10.4.2): fine. There a way to install here GNOME3?
[22:45] <soreau> ubuntu4shane: Yes, you can also upgrade the open driver stack with xorg-edgers (after removing fglrx)
[22:45] <newbie35> i have a problem about ad hoc connection.. can anyone help please?
[22:45] <Galvatron> Where you can find the latest stuff
[22:45] <ubbo> *there's a way
[22:45] <ubuntu4shane> Galvatron: I did have that before, but even that wasn't quite bleeding edge enough, and the one was unstable, with a lot of updates
[22:46] <ubuntu4shane> soreau: I been down that rode, I had a very highly modified system before, but honestly, don't like messing around with all that.
[22:46] <neverblue> hi, I am attempting to setup an FTP Server on my Ubuntu box (VM on my imac), i tried to setup both proftpd and Pure-FTPd, and I have the same issue with both : (auth works) "PORT command failed Error loading directory..." Could someone assist me with this please ?
[22:46] <BajK_> this 2.6.38 kernel rocks, I am currently compiling KDE from trunk and can easily do something else without lags :)
[22:46] <BajK_> in vbox!
[22:46] <Galvatron> ubuntu4shane: To have the most bleeding-edge stuff, you need Ubu 11.04
[22:47] <ubuntu4shane> Galvatron: yeah, I'm thinking right now that is my best bet.
[22:47] <bignono1> how can i get the who dependency?
[22:47] <newbie35> i have a problem about ad hoc connection.. can anyone help please?
[22:47] <Galvatron> BajK: I'm now running a modified 2.6.37 with the very same "miraculous patch" added by the maker.
[22:47] <soreau> So I'm trying to connect remote desktop viewer from external server ip but when I look in vino-preferences, it doesn't have the option of external ip. I have forwarded the correct ports AFAIK, but it just says connection refused when I try to connect with vncviewer
[22:48] <ubuntu4shane> Galvatron: soreau  lspci reports:  01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS780MC [Radeon HD 3100 Graphics]
[22:48] <soreau> ubuntu4shane: Yea, it's an HD series r6xx
[22:48] <soreau> or rs780 as it says
[22:49] <Logan_> !nickspam | HyacinthBouquet
[22:49] <soreau> ubuntu4shane: There has been a ton of work going on for the r600 driver, namely in the kernel and mesa
[22:49] <acicula> Konnie: from what i can gather it requires some effort to get it working
[22:49] <HyacinthBouquet> Logan_, i chose not to care about and i'll blog about it.
[22:49] <Chiggins> Hey does anyone know if you can connect to an SSTP VPN with Ubuntu ?
[22:50] <acicula> Konnie: http://www.adhocism.net/2010/11/installing-ubuntu-10-10-on-sony-vaio-vpc-z13m9eb/ seems to apply. Not sure if its supported better under the next ubuntu version either
[22:50] <Yaron-Heb> Hey guys! can anyone please help me with compiling ts file into qt with msgfmt?
[22:50] <ubuntu4shane> soreau: yeah, I know, however going on 2 years too late for me. :)  I learned a very important lesson, try before you buy!
[22:50] <Konnie> acicula: exciting, I think I can follow that. Is it the dual graphic cards that complicate things?
[22:51] <ubbo> hi all! I just installed Ubuntu LTS (10.4.2): fine. There's a way to install here GNOME3?
[22:51] <soreau> ubuntu4shane: Or at least research before you buy.. still, the radeon driver will continue to improve as AMD has several devs hired to work full time on the linux open driver
[22:51] <Yaron-Heb> brb
[22:51] <acicula> Konnie: well that and the optimus stuff that tries to integrate the use of both gpus at the same time
[22:51] <soreau> ubuntu4shane: I think it's a good investment, though the drivers need to mature
[22:51] <acicula> Konnie: the quickest fix is to disable one of the gpus in the bios if thats possible
[22:52] <acicula> but obviously not the most desirable one
[22:52] <ubuntu4shane> soreau: I agree, just mad at myself for having jumped in before drivers did. :)
[22:52] <maroccain> how to enable mod_perl ?
[22:52] <gangil> I also have the same question as ubbo
[22:52] <gangil> I have 10.4 installed, how to upgrade to gnome 3?
[22:52] <soreau> So I'm trying to connect remote desktop viewer from external server ip but when I look in vino-preferences, it doesn't have the option of external ip. I have forwarded the correct ports AFAIK, but it just says connection refused when I try to connect with vncviewer
[22:52] <Chiggins> maroccain - a2enmod mod_perl
[22:53] <ubuntu4shane> soreau: ok, how do I remove the fglrx stuff, just sudo apt-get remove fglrx?  I'm going to upgrade this thing tonight.
[22:53] <Chiggins> gangil - i heard its easier to do with the 11.04 build
[22:53] <soreau> oh hmm
[22:53] <gangil> when is 11.04 coming, April is here
[22:53] <gangil> ?
[22:54] <soreau> ubuntu4shane: Use 'gksu jockey-gtk' (sys>admin>additional drivers) unless you installed from AMD site for some reason, in which case you'd need to run the uninstall script found in /usr/share/ati/
[22:54] <hiexpo> !11.04 | gangil
[22:55] <gangil> thanks hiexpo  :)
[22:55] <ubuntu4shane> soreau: I don't remember, but I don't think I installed off the amd site, they had serious issues with the drivers they were putting out, that didn't work so I avoided them like the plague.
[22:55] <geraudk2000> somebody can hep me I'am desperate my problem : http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?32379-Intel-core-i3-HD-graphics-black-screen
[22:56] <Konnie> acicula: No, that's not something I want to do.I take it from reading this that there is no way to get linux onto this with everything working properly. I'm not sure if there is any point in that case.
[22:56] <soreau> Ok, so now vino-preferences shows the external ip but when I go to connect with vncviewer, it says connection refused *sigh*
[22:56] <soreau> acicula: Still around?
[22:56] <acicula> soreau: yup
[22:56] <B4ckBOne-> If i compile this codehttp://pastie.org/pastes, and try to run it, bash tells me:
[22:56] <ubuntu4shane> soreau: that was a while ago though.
[22:56] <B4ckBOne-> damn :-)
[22:56] <ubuntu4shane> soreau: thanks for the info
[22:56] <soreau> acicula: I've almost got it but I can't connect using the external ip now
[22:57] <soreau> ubuntu4shane: np
[22:57] <acicula> Konnie: well im not saying it doesnt work, if you follow the steps that page i linked suggests it should work
[22:57] <B4ckBOne-> i compiled this code http://pastie.org/1769672  , but it does not run. Why?
[22:57] <Yaron-Heb> Can someone please help me with msgfmt? I want to compile a ts to a qm file please
[22:58] <soreau> acicula: vino-preferences shows the external ip and I have the port forwarded but when I try connecting using the external ip, it just says connection refused, regardless if I specify the port or not
[22:58] <acicula> soreau: maybe your  portforwards are incorrect
[22:58] <Chiggins> B4ckBOne- This isn't a C++ channel, but I dunno if std::string exists. But that might just be because I don't have a lot of experience
[22:59] <Pici> B4ckBOne-: ##C++ would be the best place to ask
[22:59] <soreau> acicula: Well I assume since vino-preferences shows that it should be able to connect from external ip, that it's saying ports are forwarded correctly
[22:59] <kdub> also soreau long time, no see
[22:59] <Combatjuan> B4ckBOne-: I compiled and ran that code just fine.
[22:59] <Konnie> acicula: from the comments it seemed that brightness settings don't work as they should, and that I won't be able to switch the GPU at my lesiure... that being said, since I won't be doing any gaming or graphics editing on the Linux boot I guess I won't need the nVidia drivers
[23:00] <B4ckBOne-> Combatjuan: strange, why cant i ?
[23:00] <soreau> kdub: Heya, saw you poking around in #wayland the other day but was too tired to say hi :)
[23:00] <Combatjuan> B4ckBOne-: What error do you get?
[23:00] <B4ckBOne-> Combatjuan: compilation is fine, i use g++ , then i chmod +x and  ./ it
[23:00] <Combatjuan> B4ckBOne-: What is the error?
[23:00] <B4ckBOne-> Combatjuan: error is: Cant run file
[23:01] <branchman> hello, how can I block packets containing certain hex sequence (ffffffff54536f7572636520456e67696e6520517565727900)? I tried "iptables -A INPUT -p udp -m string --algo bm --string 'TSource Engine Query' -j LOG" but there is nothing in log...
[23:01] <kdub> soreau: yeah, trying to get that going. want to help with a gtk port
[23:01] <B4ckBOne-> Combatjuan: Can not execute file
[23:01] <soreau> kdub: Oh that is awesome. I can't wait to see wayland take off and native kits for it etc
[23:01] <Combatjuan> B4ckBOne-: What command are you using to compile? Perhaps you are compiling but linking it to runtime.  Do something like "g++ -o runnable main.cpp"
[23:02] <kdub> soreau: a good native toolkit will do a lot to drive adoption i think
[23:02] <maco> branchman: you want normalisation of strings regardless encoding? that sounds like you want a real IDS
[23:02] <soreau> kdog: Indubitably ;)
[23:02] <soreau> err..
[23:02] <kdub> haha
[23:02] <B4ckBOne-> Combatjuan: g++ -l/usr/include/ -Wall -c hello-world.c
[23:02] <soreau> kdub: Your dog is here too? xD
[23:03] <Combatjuan> B4ckBOne-: Yeah, an object file isn't executable.
[23:03] <AndroUser> ubuntu kernel
[23:03] <soreau> kdub: I wanted to start looking into porting compiz to wayland but I am very strapped for time these days :P
[23:03] <branchman> maco: sry, I tried it also with --hex-string ffffffff54536f7572636520456e67696e6520517565727900
[23:04] <geraudk2000> please don't let me boot on windows, I'm desperate my problem http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?32379-Intel-core-i3-HD-graphics-black-screen
[23:05] <nikola> o hai
[23:05] <Combatjuan> B4ckBOne-: The "-c" option to g++ explicitely tells it to compile only and not link.  If you either omit it (and use a.out) or you specify an output with -o, you'll get a linked executable.
[23:05] <Galvatron> soreau: I wonder, how many year might it take before we see a first distro with Wayland?
[23:06] <anygivenname> anyone can help with Asterisk ?
[23:06] <Combatjuan> B4ckBOne-: In fact, if you either omit -c or use -o, you'll note that g++ will have automatically marked the file with the +x flag.
[23:06] <B4ckBOne-> Combatjuan: ok, so using -o will fix it?
[23:06] <kdub> soreau: i'm just trying to get the example compositor running on the bare hardware before worrying about anything more. still havent succeeded...
[23:07] <soreau> Galvatron: canonical and mr. shuttleworth have already announced they will support it in the future
[23:07] <soreau> kdub: I haven't even had time to get the thing up and running :/
[23:07] <soreau> Looks promising though
[23:07] <Combatjuan> B4ckBOne-: The main thing is to leave off the -c.  Or if you want, you can do:  "g++ -c hello-world.c; g++ -o hello hello-world.o"  The second command takes your object file and links it into an executable.
[23:07] <kdub> it compiles, i'm fighting with mesa though
[23:07] <anygivenname> anyone can help with Asterisk ?
[23:08] <soreau> kdub: I want to see my vt's on a cube face ;)
[23:08] <Combatjuan> B4ckBOne-: For such a simple project (single file), there isn't much point to doing it in two steps though.
[23:08] <Chiggins> Hey does anyone know if you can connect to an SSTP VPN with Ubuntu ?
[23:08] <neverblue> anygivenname: more specifically ?
[23:08] <Pici> anygivenname: You can ask here, but you'll probably get better support if you ask in #asterisk
[23:08] <erbun> Qeustion - I am running 10.10 and while using airodump to look at prior associates given by my probe requests I only see the SSID that I am currently associated with, or an SSID that I was just recently associated with.  I do not see other prior associations, even though that my computer will still automatically connect to these networks.  My question is this - Does Ubuntu/linux not transmit the traditional prior associations and instea
[23:08] <erbun> d use a different method for connecting to known networks?  I ask because I know WIndows 7 also does something similar for security reason.  Thnx in advance
[23:08] <neverblue> anygivenname: as there is a channel for it, #asterisk
[23:08] <anygivenname> need to know how to configure it
[23:08] <B4ckBOne-> Combatjuan: thanks a lot, im just beginning ;-)
[23:08] <Combatjuan> B4ckBOne-: No problem.  Have fun!
[23:08] <Galvatron> I'm falling asleep
[23:08] <neverblue> anygivenname: going onto to IRC and asking that question is insane
[23:08] <Galvatron> Bye
[23:08] <Scunizi> how do you wake a sleeping usb drive from cli ?
[23:09] <neverblue> anygivenname: buy a book and read
[23:09] <neverblue> Scunizi: mount ?
[23:09] <asadeddin_> anyone with any experience setting up openerp?  thanks :)
[23:10] <neverblue> asadeddin_: don't ask, just ask your question
[23:10] <asadeddin_> well... basically i installed postgresql and it works, and i installed openerp-server, then the client, but the client tells me that it could not connect to server
[23:11] <neverblue> asadeddin_: is the service running ?
[23:11] <neverblue> is there an error ?
[23:11] <asadeddin_> which one postgre or openerp server?
[23:12] <neverblue> well, you are attempting to take a client and allow it to connect to a server
[23:12] <asadeddin_> yeah
[23:12] <neverblue> if that server depends on another server, you will need to isolate where the issue lies
[23:12] <neverblue> logic, find out where the error is, aka: what is the clients error ?
[23:12] <kdub> soreau: all those things that gave us such a big headache in compiz will be easy. freewins, dynamic backgrounds
[23:13] <mithrida1es> what's the package for gnome3 themes? I can't get them from repository I have gnome3 running on my machine now, but I don't have its default theme
[23:13] <neverblue> then you persue from there
[23:13] <asadeddin_> mmm... how do i check if openerp-server is running?
[23:13] <neverblue> asadeddin_: consult your manual
[23:13] <asadeddin_> just did ;)
[23:14] <Combatjuan> asadeddin_: $ ps -Af | grep postgres | grep bin
[23:14] <asadeddin_> thanks Combatjuan
[23:14] <Combatjuan> asadeddin_: (That's for postgres, you'll have to do similar for open-erpg or whatever it is.  I have no idea what it is)
[23:14] <asadeddin_> i got this: postgres  9496     1  0 Apr07 ?        00:00:01 /usr/lib/postgresql/8.4/bin/postgres -D /var/lib/postgresql/8.4/second -c config_file=/etc/postgresql/8.4/second/postgresql.conf
[23:15] <asadeddin_> seems correct?
[23:15] <Combatjuan> asadeddin_: Ok good.  That means postgres is probably running just fine.
[23:15] <asadeddin_> and i just did it for openerp
[23:15] <asadeddin_> and it looks ok
[23:16] <asadeddin_> mmm... i could be config issues
[23:17] <asadeddin_> do u have any idea Combatjuan what it could be?
[23:17] <Combatjuan> asadeddin_: A configuration error seems likely.  Perhaps something like postgres wasn't setup when openerp was installed so openerp couldn't create it's database and now it's mad.
[23:18] <asadeddin_> well it says it cant connect to the server
[23:18] <Combatjuan> asadeddin_: Try and find the error logs for openerp.  Hopefully it has a more specific error.
[23:18] <mandar> Hi all
[23:18] <mandar> I am facing some problem using Ubuntu 10.10 desktop edition...
[23:18] <mandar> can anyone help me?
[23:19] <Combatjuan> asadeddin_: Here's another thought.  I think the default postgres might not allow local connections.  You should make sure that you can access it locally.  "$ psql"  Then "=$ SELECT NOW();" and Ctrl-D to exit.
[23:19] <chid> is there an easy way to blank the screen?
[23:19] <chid> for a laptop
[23:19] <itaylor57> chid: clear
[23:19] <asadeddin_> let me try
[23:20] <mandar> is anybody here to help me?
[23:20] <Combatjuan> mandar: Please state your problems.
[23:20] <mandar> thanks.. here it goes
[23:20] <chid> itaylor57: blank the display not the terminal
[23:20] <asadeddin_> it says Fatal
[23:20] <mandar> I have installed Ubuntu 10.10 on my Toshiba Satellite A660
[23:20] <asadeddin_> password authentication failed
[23:21] <mandar> when I logged into ubuntu, it is not detecting wireless LAN card
[23:21] <aeon-ltd> mandar: did it work before? if not then you need a module/driver for your card
[23:21] <mandar> Which means, it is not showing any available connections and hence, not allowing me to connect to any wireless network
[23:21] <anivair_> can anyone give me a hand?  For some reason my system isn't recognizing that it has a gateway set.
[23:22] <anivair_> if I enter the route commend, there is nothing listed under the gateway field
[23:22] <anivair_> but it's in the network setup
[23:22] <mandar> no.. it did not work before.. in fact, I have installed Ubuntu first time on my laptop
[23:22] <mandar> I guess, I need drivers for wireless network card
[23:22] <Combatjuan> asadeddin_: Did it ask you for a password?  Or did you specify one on the command line with "--password"?
[23:22] <asadeddin_> it asked
[23:23] <Combatjuan> asadeddin_: For user 'postgres'?
[23:23] <asadeddin_> oh
[23:23] <asadeddin_> i typed in psql
[23:23] <mandar> Additionally, hotkey to power on the wireless network card is not working
[23:23] <tacomaster> i was wondering i have tried the locate command but where is ruby installed at if you install it with apt-get?
[23:23] <asadeddin_> should i go into user postgres?
[23:23] <Combatjuan> asadeddin_: That's the default user.  Did you create another?
[23:23] <mandar> I suppose, if hotkey works then I can power on the wireless network card
[23:23] <asadeddin_> no
[23:23] <mandar> can anyone help me?
[23:24] <asadeddin_> i m on it right now
[23:24] <asadeddin_> then: =$ SELECT NOW();
[23:24] <asadeddin_> right?
[23:24] <Combatjuan> asadeddin_: That's a simple command to test and make sure postgres is responding.  Enter that in the psql prompt.
[23:24] <neverblue> mander, asking a question, rather than randomly asking for help, is a lot more helpful
[23:24] <Combatjuan> asadeddin_: (Just the "SELECT NOW();" part)
[23:24] <neverblue> take that into consideration
[23:25] <asadeddin_> k
[23:25] <asadeddin_> yeah it's running
[23:25] <asadeddin_> i got the psql version, then the help thing and then postgres=#
[23:25] <mandar> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/684130?comments=all
[23:25] <demonspork> let's get ready to party people!!!
[23:26] <mandar> yes... it's a bug!
[23:26] <Combatjuan> asadeddin_: Ok.  That's good.  The prompt should be "<username>=#".  What does it have for username?
[23:26] <rance> hey gang, I need some help expanding an existing centos setup script that I use for new servers to support debian/ubuntu.  In the script I need a way to reliably tell the difference between a ubuntu install and a debian one, so far all I have is the output of uname -v that has Ubuntu in the kernel version.  Don't know if I can rely on that though.  The existence of /etc/debian_version gets me that the distro is debian based.  But I sti
[23:26] <rance> ll need the difference between debian and ubuntu, any ideas?
[23:26] <asadeddin_> postgres
[23:27] <Pici> rance: See the "Ubuntu and Debian" section here: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/installation-guide/i386/what-is-debian.html
[23:27] <Combatjuan> asadeddin_: I thought you said that 'password authentication failed'.  Did you fix that?
[23:27] <mandar> ubottu: any idea about that bug?
[23:27] <mandar> ohh... lol okay
[23:27] <rance> <-- reading now
[23:27] <asadeddin_> no.. i made a mistake
[23:28] <Combatjuan> asadeddin_: You typed the password incorrectly you mean?
[23:28] <asadeddin_> i was on a different user. so i switched to postgres
[23:28] <Combatjuan> asadeddin_: Ah.  Ok.
[23:28] <asadeddin_> so what now chief?
[23:28] <demonspork> Here is my setup: I have 4x 1.5TB hard drives and 3x 1TB hard drives. The plan is to use one of the 1.5TB drives as the OS drive and then configure the remaining 3 1.5TB drives in software RAID5 and the 3 1TB drives in software RAID5.  So 2 software RAID5 arrays and a single OS drive is the ultimate goal. Does anyone have any alternative suggestions or recommendations while going through this process?
[23:28] <Cam0> Hi all
[23:29] <demonspork> !hi Cam0
[23:29] <demonspork> !hi | Cam0
[23:29] <demonspork> !hello | Cam0
[23:29] <Pici> demonspork: there is no !hi factoid.
[23:29] <Combatjuan> asadeddin_: You got the private message?
[23:29] <asadeddin_> nope
[23:29] <demonspork> there used to be one that said hello to whoever you were sending it to
[23:29] <demonspork> it was nice
[23:30] <sjm> demonspork, It all depends on what you want to do with the box.
[23:30] <Pici> demonspork: You can say hi yourself, the factoid was just needless noise in the channel.
[23:31] <demonspork> sjm, fileserver that might be wired in to do media playback as well as serve files to 2 or 3 other media centers in the house.  nothing extremely demanding thus the reason I don't have a dedicated RAID controller or server grade hardware
[23:31] <rance> Pici:  That is actually good reading, but unfortunately explains my problem rather than solves it.  Part of my setup script is to install packages that arent available after a stock install.  Debian and Ubuntu vary on what a stock install is.  So I will need separate package lists for each supported distro in my work.  Hope this helps explain my need.  Now is there a way to tell them apart from a console running either one?
[23:31] <beharbunjaku> hi!
[23:31] <beharbunjaku> i need help installing gnome3 on ubuntu 10.10 , can anyone help me plz !!
[23:32] <sjm> demonspork, I'd probably use one of the 1TB drives as the OS and the rest in one big raid10 array
[23:32] <demonspork> beharbunjaku, please start with the issue you are having.
[23:32] <Pici> rance: lsb_release -i and/or /etc/issue should differ.
[23:33] <chrissbx> Hi. How would you do traffic accounting, i.e. sum up the amount of traffic that went over ppp0 or similar over the course of a month? I'm actually a Debian user, but missing a solution so far I'd start looking into porting.
[23:33] <beharbunjaku> demonspork: how ?
[23:33] <anivair_> nobody?  I'm pretty confused about why my system seems to be allergic to my gateway.
[23:33] <Diamondcite> chrissbx: Have you looked at ntop in the paste?
[23:33] <demonspork> sjm, RAID10 - not familiar with that.  Will it allow me to use all of the drive space (RAID5 for all of them would cut off .5TB on the 1.5 drives because N is the smallest drive)
[23:34] <chrissbx> Diamondcite: I need something that sums up traffic all the time, not only when I run it at the console.
[23:34] <Pici> chrissbx: vnstat perhaps? Heres an image output (it also provides a cli tool) for my server: http://files.nullcortex.com/images/vnstat/
[23:34] <Diamondcite> chrissbx: The name ntop is deceising, it's a pretty comprehensive logger
[23:35] <Diamondcite> chrissbx: *deceiving
[23:35] <rich_> is one familiar with "easy hosting control panel"? I seem to be having issues with domain specific aliases
[23:35] <chrissbx> Ok, I'll look into ntop and vnstat, thanks guys!
[23:36] <pp7> how do i rip a DTS encoded CD in ubuntu?
[23:36] <Pici> chrissbx: vnstat is doing exactly what you asked, and its a lot more lightweight than ntop.
[23:36] <Pici> s/is/is for/
[23:36] <chrissbx> good
[23:36] <sjm> demonspork, you'd set up three raid1 arrays (something like: md0=two 1.5TB drives, md1=two 1.5TB drives, md2=2 1TB drives) and then RAID0 over that (something like md3=raid0 of md0,md1,and md2) You'd have a total of 4TB, I think.
[23:36] <Diamondcite> Pici: vnstat sounds familiar.. does it read that information by polling the devices?
[23:37] <rance> Pici:  TY
[23:37] <sjm> demonspork, but it'd be one big array without the "risk" or "disadvantages" of RAID5 (google it, if you want).
[23:37] <Pici> Diamondcite: It reads information out of /proc or /sys and logs it somewhere periodically
[23:38] <meganerd> demonspork: you may wish to check out btrfs if this is not mission critial data
[23:39] <Diamondcite> Pici: vnstat was nice. but least in my home, it would periodically mis-read.. (goes over by hundreds of GB)
[23:39] <bc81> hi.  if i boot my (xubuntu) server with no monitor plugged in, it defaults to 1024x768 resolution.  how can i force it to some arbitrary resolution (i.e. 1366x768, or 1920x1080)?
[23:39] <oo> Hey all, i'm trying to read a cd but when i insert it it says Location is not mountable, what do i do?
[23:39] <Pici> Diamondcite: yikes!
[23:39] <meganerd> bc81: xrandr will do this
[23:40] <bc81> meganerd: ok, thanks.  so if i do that once it will remember, or will i need to add the command to a startup script?
[23:40] <BajK_> One question: Since when does Kubuntu use KDE 4 only? 8.10?
[23:40] <BajK_> so why the hell does qmake STILL symlink to qmake-QT3??
[23:40] <sjm> bc81, what do you need to do it for?
[23:41] <maco> BajK_: yes 8.10
[23:41] <IMAD> hello again ^^
[23:41] <meganerd> bc81: things like screen resolution are mostly handled dynamically, so likely something that you would have to script
[23:41] <IMAD> I have just download Eagle USB [ drivers for my modem ]
[23:41] <IMAD> so how I can install it ?
[23:41] <meganerd> bc81: assuming that the autodetected settings were suboptimal.
[23:42] <BajK_> that stupid thing cost me half an hour of trouble finding the reason for the scripts not finding qmake -.-"
[23:42] <pp7> how do i rip a DTS encoded CD in ubuntu?
[23:42] <sjm> bc81, what do you need to do it for?
[23:42] <bc81> meganerd: sounds good, i'll look into this.
[23:42] <maco> BajK_: if it makes you feel any better, it took me at least htat long to realise that .pyc's were the reason my changes seemed not to have any effect on the code i was working on last night
[23:42] <bc81> sjm: when i vnc into the machine, 1024x768 is too small
[23:43] <IMAD> some one can help ?
[23:43] <BajK_> maco: oh, i know that problem, so you edited the py files but the pycs were used^^
[23:43] <maco> BajK_: yup. didnt realise there even WERE pyc's
[23:43] <sjm> bc81, ok, that makes sense, but if you are coming from another linux machine, you can use ssh with X-Forwarding
[23:44] <BajK_> maco: I encountered py and pyc when scripting for Star Trek Bridge Commander :D luckily that GAME(!) had a python compiler shipped with it so it autocompiled every time you started *gg*
[23:44] <demonspork> sjm, I am looking for a solution that gives me maximum space + at least basic redundancy with the hardware I have.  I get 5TB with the setup that I proposed.  do you think any of the disadvantages of RAID5 will cause any bottlenecks in a media center computer?  it will be downloading stuff periodically and have DVD disks copied to it's drives but most of its use will be reading the data.
[23:44] <bc81> sjm: that sounds interesting.  i'll look for a tutorial on that, thanks
[23:44] <IMAD> I have just download Eagle USB [ drivers for my modem ]
[23:45] <IMAD> so how I can install it ?
[23:45] <IMAD> ?
[23:45] <Diamondcite> IMAD: Have you tried reading: http://atm.eagle-usb.org/wakka.php?wiki=UeagleAtmDoc
[23:46] <BajK_> eh, how do I report a bug in launchpad? the lik there redirects me to the wiki which say s I shall run "ubuntu-bug" and this program is so dumb, when I chose "other problem" and "other problem" it says "yeah this behavior is expected since there is no tty allocated blablabla add the -t flag" and I say ? what? I want to report a bug mamn!
[23:46]  * sin8h hello
[23:46] <sjm> demonspork, If your priority is space, then your solution is probably the one (if it's not a problem to have the two different raid disks).  IIRC, the problems with RAID5 is data integrity especially with a failed member of the RAID.
[23:46] <sjm> demonspork, If the data is not "critical" and you are checking on the raid health regularly, it shouldn't be a problem.
[23:47] <yuskhanzab> hello all, is there any option to use webcam in pidgin(yahoo)?
[23:47] <demonspork> sjm, so what method should I use to build the RAID5?
[23:48] <demonspork> yuskhanzab, as far as I am aware pidgin doesn't support any video chat
[23:48] <hackel> yuskhanzab: No, webcam is only supported on XMPP (Google Talk).
[23:48] <demonspork> that is new
[23:48] <demonspork> :)
[23:48] <sjm> demonspork, you could end up with 5.5TB if you use 1TB for OS, 4x1.5TB RAID5, and 2x1TB RAID1
[23:48] <yuskhanzab> owh, thx for the info
[23:49] <hackel> yuskhanzab: You can use gyachi for Yahoo, there was a PPA, you can search for it.
[23:49] <demonspork> sjm, nice.  Now which filesystem would you recommend for running on the RAID disks?
[23:49] <meganerd> demonspork: you could use LVM to glue several different RAID arrays together.  It really depends on what you want to do
[23:50] <sjm> !RAID | demonspork
[23:50] <yuskhanzab> gyachi can use webcam for yahoo?
[23:50] <demonspork> meganerd, yeah, I know.   I plan to keep them separate because their size lines up with about their uses.  the 2x1TB in RAID1 would kind of throw that off a bit
[23:50] <TheFriendlyOnes> What is the channel for ubuntu packaging?
[23:51] <FroztIkon> if I want to use my laptop as a way for the xbox to connect to the net, how do I get around nat issues (wireless router has Unpnp enabled)
[23:51] <demonspork> FroztIkon, you generally don't. at least not that I have found
[23:51] <Pici> TheFriendlyOnes: Oddly enough: #ubuntu-packaging
[23:52] <TheFriendlyOnes> Pici: Lol, thank you so much for the help =)
[23:52] <sark666> i have to rewrite grub, but i've been behind on updating ubuntu.  I think the one on my drive was 9.04.  Is that pre-grub2?  I believe I read in a recent guide taht grub2 has a different method for rewriting
[23:52] <FroztIkon> well, its giving my xbox a very bad connection. In multiplayer games, I usually have just a bar
[23:52] <sark666> i just burned latest for a live cd to fix it
[23:53] <shcherbak> FroztIkon: You need to make bridge.
[23:53] <FroztIkon> shcherbak is that the wired connection or wireless that I make shared?
[23:53] <sark666> is there a way to tell if a drive has grub vs grub2?
[23:54] <shcherbak> FroztIkon: Up to you, how your xbox is connecting?
[23:54] <FroztIkon> scherbak: its wired
[23:54] <sjm> sark666, yes, I think if the /boot/grub/menu.lst file exists, it's prior to grub2
[23:54] <sark666> thanks
[23:55] <sark666> sjm do you know if the methods differ for rewriting grub vs grub2?
[23:55] <sjm> sark666, see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[23:56] <sark666> sjm thanks again
[23:57] <sjm> sark666, you're welcome
[23:58] <FroztIkon> is there a way to set the eth0 (lan connection) to something other than 10.42.43.0?
[23:58] <sur> hello, what software is used for shooting this video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3rM4vT7Vgs