[00:00] joepa: well, to recover anything, you need to boot the system... if there isn't a bootable OS on the hard drive, and you don't have an external media to boot from, you're SOL, *period*. [00:00] joe75, assuming Grub2 this might help (i haven't looked at it carefully) http://michael-prokop.at/blog/2009/05/25/boot-an-iso-via-grub2/ [00:00] what's the difference between sudo su and sudo -i [00:00] what's the difference between sudo su and sudo -i ? [00:00] is it possible to update to gnome 3 on ubuntu 10.10? and if so how do i do it? [00:01] nerdshell, don't use "sudo su" -- it sets environment variables differently (i don't know the specifics) [00:01] joepa: unless you're thinking of removing the drive and imaging a partition with a second machine, in which case, cut out the middleman and use the second machine to recover data directly [00:01] mello, gnome-shell is broken in 10.10 (not possible due to some bug) [00:01] ZykoticK9: what do you mean sets environment variables differently ? [00:01] what's the difference between sudo su and sudo -i ? [00:01] roothorick: okay, good point, I'll do that [00:01] ok ty ZykoticK9 [00:02] nerdshell, it sets environment variables differently (that IS the difference) [00:02] nerdshell, don't use "sudo su"... end of story really. [00:02] ZykoticK9: yes, I mean, in fact, how could this be dangerous ? [00:02] I'm trying to auto-mount two ntfs software-raid drives, in Nautilus they appear but I have to mount them manually, but in /dev/ they all appear as seperate drives :/ could someone help out? how can I auto-mount these ntfs arrays? [00:02] I'm not an ubuntu guy, but sudo su seems kinda silly [00:03] nerdshell, not up for debate. good luck. [00:03] nerdshell: if u use man sudo in the terminal u can read what the -i command dose [00:04] capleton: ntfs? software-raid? Wait, what? [00:04] capleton: you can't be doing Linux MD RAID with NTFS, so... what RAID solution are you using? [00:04] :/ [00:05] it was the one that came with ubuntu server edition... if that's what you're asking [00:05] capleton: so you seriously... NTFS in Linux MD RAID? Why? [00:05] the drives were already formatted witha bunch of data [00:05] I can mount and use them fine with Nautilus [00:06] ...okay, I'm not following, maybe someone that knows ubuntu's idosyncracies will understand what's going on [00:06] hah, i hope. I think it has to do with /dev/mapper [00:06] ...maybe [00:07] idk [00:07] i'll be back [00:08] <[deXter]> Hi all, just installed lubuntu on this laptop but the problem is it doesn't automatically connect to the network upon a fresh boot, any ideas? Thanks. [00:09] Soooo... I'm sure I'm not the first person asking, but I can't find the info anywhere. How do I upgrade to gnome 3 on my ubuntu 10.10 desktop? [00:09] join ubuntu-beginners [00:10] hello, does anyone know where to find the desktop effects in natty narwal??? [00:10] quit [00:10] Hello [00:10] !natty | frank [00:10] frank: Natty Narwhal is the codename for Ubuntu 11.04, due April 28 2011. Help and support (only) in #ubuntu+1. Natty is beta and is not intended for production systems. [00:11] I know but it works like a charm already (beta) [00:11] <[deXter]> Does anyone know if GNOME3 can be installed on Maverick, and if so, how to go about it? [00:11] [deXter], it can't :( [00:11] frank: Please ask in #ubuntu+1, as ubottu said. [00:11] <[deXter]> ZykoticK9: Thanks. :( [00:12] ok [00:12] [deXter], regarding lubuntu networking issue - you might want to ask in the #lubuntu channel (i'm not sure what, if any, network manager it uses). Good luck. [00:13] <[deXter]> ZykoticK9: Thanks, but I figured it out.. 'connect automatically' wasn't checked for some reason. === chris_ is now known as Guest16268 [00:16] Okay, I semi-figured out the situation, the raid is mapped under /dev/mapper/nvidia_adf1 etc. But now I don't know whether to use regular mount or ntfs-3g [00:16] What would be the difference between using regular mount and ntfs-3g? [00:16] capleton: what's the regular mount? [00:17] capleton: you should usually use ntfs-3g [00:17] just using sudo mount, idk === Guest16268 is now known as Chr|s [00:17] kkk [00:17] ntfs-3g is read/write, the kernel ntfs driver is read-only. [00:18] oh i c [00:18] ntfs in theory offers slightly higher performance, but in practice you'd rarely notice the difference. [00:18] rather, the read-only in-kernel ntfs driver does. [00:18] okay. Now i've gotta find a good fstab tut :/ [00:18] or maybe a manpage [00:19] good call :) [00:19] if I'm logged in to my pc with my gui and leave it and go into single user mode, is there a way to go back? or do I jsut ahve to reboot? [00:20] deshymers: how did you go to single user mode? [00:20] control + alt + F1 [00:20] ah. that's not single user mode. that's just a virtual terminal. [00:20] ahh ok [00:20] hit alt-f7, usually. [00:21] since X is usually on the 7th virtual terminal [00:21] excellent, I was trying to do that before but wasnt able to find it, thanks [00:22] hello [00:22] can someone give me suppor with grub problems on USB HDD [00:22] ? [00:23] GatunoRox: only if you describe the problems. [00:23] hello ayecee [00:23] here's the deal [00:24] can i chroot into ubuntu from a debian live stick? [00:24] I've installed ubuntu on an USB HDD, full install 640GB ext4, without any internal hard drive sou grub wouldn't install anywhere other than the HDD, and oh well, works like a ccharm on the compute i used to install [00:24] it's good to know that the deal is coming, that way i can prepare to receive the deal. [00:25] bluenemo_: i don't see why not [00:25] ayecee, cool thank you [00:25] yet, when I use ito to try and boot on my laptop computer or on my other pc, all I get is either grub rescue or black screen with type cursor flashing === michael is now known as Guest6317 [00:26] Does anyone know the dd command to clone a interntal hdd to a external [00:27] GatunoRox: it could be your laptop bios doesn't handle booting from such large usb devices. Maybe there's a bios upgrade available for the laptop? [00:27] what tool would i use to create partitions with? [00:27] miles__: dd if=internaldevicename of=externaldevicename [00:27] MrBushido: fdisk [00:27] * MrBushido facepalms [00:27] it didn't have any prroblem on my previous install, though [00:27] ayecee: thanks [00:27] ;miles__nope i don't know if somethink like this exist in ubuntu!try norton ghost [00:28] ayecee: thanks [00:28] armor-64: norton ghost is for windows [00:28] GatunoRox: perhaps the boot files were placed in a different location on this try, further into the disk. If there's an option to create a boot partition first on the disk, that'd probably fix it. [00:28] MrBushido, use gparted, its veeery simple. sudo apt-get install gparted && gparted [00:29] MrBushido: gparted probably does a better job of it though, if you're within a gui [00:29] miles__:have you try it? [00:29] armor-64: several program like that exist in ubuntu. [00:29] armor-64: why mess up with wine to get a program working, while ubuntu has the same commands built in [00:30] ayecee: can you tell me one of them(a good one) [00:30] armor-64: dd [00:30] miles__: i am no messing a wine into this!a bootable ghost exist(i am using one of this and it's good [00:31] armor-64: ghost is also commercial software, so one would have to go out and buy it. [00:31] using dd is not idea.. as it will copy pointless portions of the disk [00:32] including the "free" space [00:32] ayecee: have you try piratebay(i downloaded a pirated edition) [00:32] I would use a tool like ntfsclone [00:32] reinstalled openoffice. it now has a seemingly ugly gui, like windows 98 style. wat happened.. [00:32] armor-64: it is not polite to pirate other peoples' work. [00:32] !pirate [00:32] !piracy [00:32] piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music, and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o [00:32] help with play an mkv the audio and vedio do not match how to fix it ? [00:32] dotblank: that's sensible for ntfs partitions, at least :) [00:33] dotblank: there's probably similar tools for other filesystems [00:33] ayecee: i know sorry but i don't have much money(if ubuntu have a program like tha then i will instal it) [00:34] well its easier on linux you could just do a loopback mount then cp and use archive mode [00:34] what program ? [00:34] you may run into problems with special udev devices [00:34] armor-64: why, how much does it cost? [00:35] hey guys [00:35] There are lots of programs that are open source and like ghost [00:35] Need some help [00:35] in fact better === fred_ is now known as Guest84647 [00:35] dotblank: myself, I find it easier to use dd and then gparted to resize, even if it's more time consuming. it's not like I'm sitting there waiting for it. [00:35] ayecee: around 60euros or more(i live in greece so imagene with the crisis we have here how it will cost) [00:36] Heylo [00:36] help with play an mkv the audio and vedio do not match how to fix it ? [00:36] armor-64: money must be very tight for you, but I suspect you merely have other things you'd rather spend money on. [00:37] armor-64: abs is totaly free, in some way you could write own custom solution. [00:37] ayecee, for what type of images? ntfs images? [00:37] dotblank: plus, most of the time when I'm cloning, I'm doing it because the data is damaged, so recovering the (maybe) free space is useful. [00:37] or ext2/3/4 [00:37] dotblank: any kind. also including bootloader. [00:37] ayecee, Yea for use with computer forensics I would use dd [00:37] ayecee: i help my family with the financial problems so no money for pc :( [00:38] or data recovery, yeah [00:38] but if I'm distributing a network image i wouldn't use that [00:38] dotblank: true enough [00:38] shcherbak: what do you mean? [00:38] its a 1 time occurrence then dd is fine but after the 4th image using dd you look elsewhere [00:38] ubottu: tell armor-64 about abs [00:38] armor-64, please see my private message [00:39] heh. abs. what a horrible name for a linux program. [00:39] Ayecee: you said dd if=internaldevicename of=externaldevicename for the command, but it doesn't seem to be working.. [00:39] how do i fix the audio sync mkv file? [00:39] ayecee: it is guide. [00:39] miles__: you know that you have to replace internaldevicename with an actual device name, yes? [00:39] Ayecee: should i be naming their factory names or their set names. [00:39] miles__: likewise with externaldevicename ? [00:39] miles__, its not verbose [00:39] Ayecee, i should feel insulted you asked that. [00:39] good day all [00:39] lol [00:40] shcherbak: you mean this!sorry i imagine something else(i know about this) [00:40] miles__: well, I wondered because you didn't show the command as you yourself had entered it. [00:40] ayecee: dd if=ATA TOSHIBA MK1234GSX of=WD My Passport 071A [00:40] miles__: aiee. those aren't device names. [00:40] msg hey [00:40] I ned some help [00:40] pooltable, vlc might be able to fix files and you could use a tool like avidemux [00:40] miles__: device names would be similar to /dev/sda, or something. [00:40] Hi everyone. [00:41] Ayecee: Ah, i see alright.\ [00:41] armor-64: bash provides all needed tools and elegant transport solution (ssh) for any form of data. [00:41] Can I get some help [00:41] dual booting [00:41] !ask [00:41] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [00:41] botbank: is avidemux with vlc or another program ? [00:41] Gucci: that is an excellent question. [00:41] okay [00:42] pooltable, avidemux is a standalone program that you can install with the software center [00:42] dotblank: will try [00:42] shcherbak: yeah i know,i will try to do something that will help me in my job [00:43] how do I reply [00:43] to ayecee [00:43] pooltable, I just checked.. with avidemux you can shift the audio track [00:43] dotblank: gtk+ or qt version ??? [00:43] pooltable, gtk+ [00:43] anyone help me dualboot? [00:43] armor-64: Try to describe problem, we are keen to help. [00:43] !tab | Gucci [00:43] Gucci: You can use your key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line. [00:43] Gucci: you must describe your problem before anyone can help you. [00:45] dotblank do i run vlc and avidemux at the same time ? [00:45] How can I burn a non-Ubuntu iso to a USB drive? [00:45] pooltable, no, you should be able to shift audio all in avidemux [00:45] Starminn: try unetbootin === yofel_ is now known as yofel [00:45] I'm considering upgrading from 10.04 to 10.10. I can't upgrade past gdm 2.2 b/c I require multi-seat support which was dropped with the next release. Can I upgrade ubuntu, but prevent GDM from being upgraded? [00:45] pooltable, I suggested vlc because people often have that and it can repair streams [00:46] shcherbak: some one asked about how to copy the hole HDD to an external HDD and i don't know about such a program that's why i ask if something like that exist(everything in Ubuntu of course) [00:47] hi, how do i partition my hard drive for ubuntu on windows xp? [00:47] ejay: using gparted on the ubuntu livecd. [00:47] dotblank i have vlc it was still off [00:48] ejay, ubuntu should detect your windows instalation and allow you to install it along side it [00:48] ok, that's what i heard. how do i use it? [00:48] Spoog thnx, but IMAP does not appear to be supported on the Exchange server I'm trying to connect to... at least when I telnet domainXXX 143 I'm getting a connection refused err. [00:48] ejay: i'm not sure how to answer that. what do you mean? [00:48] pooltable, ok.. yea avidemux is your friend [00:48] ejay: I mean, aside from the obvious steps of 1) boot livecd 2) run gparted from livec [00:49] dd214, the network or system admin has to enable imap support on the exchange server [00:49] most of the time it is enabled i find [00:49] shcherbak: Thanks [00:49] i understand that but i mean use the program [00:49] ejay: then you'd use the slider to resize the partition, and then apply the changes, and then gparted makes the changes. it's sometimes time consuming. [00:49] ejay, I personally like the new disk manager and prefer it to gparted [00:50] dd214 were you in the US service ? [00:50] ejay: is that what you mean by use? [00:50] when i insert the disk and hit install now, i hit run alongside windows and it shows 1 partition and says if i continue it will erase my WHOLE other partition and replace it with ubuntu [00:50] yea [00:50] armor-64: To copy system (does someone expect copy to be bootable?), for raw data: i would use fdisk (or gpated) to copy partition, and gzip/find to copy directory tree and then gzip/find to fill it with files (and report), or just use dd (best if drive is failing) [00:50] dotblank Strange, I use the same config information that works with my Android, but can't get Evolution to work. [00:51] Ugggh, oh boy, its taking forever to reformat my ext [00:51] can someone hack me into 4chan i just got banned [00:51] botblank why does it take so long to load a file is it fixing it? [00:51] shcherbak: ok thanks man [00:51] pooltable USMC [00:51] dd214 Navy here [00:51] when i insert the disk and hit install now, i hit run alongside windows and it shows 1 partition and says if i continue it will erase my WHOLE other partition and replace it with ubuntu [00:52] ejay: okay, insert the disk and reboot. hopefully a boot menu comes up that lets you "try ubuntu without changing your system", or something to that effect. === Adom|AFK is now known as Adom [00:52] dd214 odd nick [00:52] i've done that before [00:52] ejay: good! then you know how to get there :) [00:52] next step please [00:53] !dualboot [00:53] Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows - Macs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot [00:53] dotblank h.264 detected what do i do ? [00:53] ejay: launch gparted from the menu when it comes up. I don't have the location memorized. [00:53] pooltable I've been using it as a handle dating back to my Quake days. [00:53] ayecee: alright so, after reformating my ext its dd if=/ of=/media/Distro right? [00:53] i know where it is [00:53] ejay: i'd imagine it's under system menu. [00:53] next please [00:54] pooltable, I think I should explain video format 101 [00:54] pooltable, h264 is a codec [00:54] miles__: erm.. no, those are directories, not device names. [00:54] pooltable, mkv is a container [00:54] miles__: if you just want to copy the files and not the partitions, maybe cp is easier to use [00:54] pooltable, the container allows you to have multiple audio/video streams [00:54] dd214 my a form of my old freenet days eightball [00:54] Ayecee: sure whatever works, i'm just trying to copy my whole isntall onto my ext [00:54] ejay: like I said, resize your partition using the slider [00:54] then how do i add a partition? [00:54] pooltable, Example 1 video stream and 2 audio streams (english and spanish) [00:55] ejay: you can safely leave that part for the install. [00:55] will it erase my data (thats what i heard) [00:55] miles__: Why do you need to copy whole system? [00:55] pooltable, h264 is a common format used now adays for hd video [00:55] hello.who know if we can set our mac address to 00:00:00:00:00:00?? [00:55] dotblank still skips what to do ? [00:55] ejay: will gparted erase your data? no. [00:55] so i can take my install with me places with out dragging the laptop around. [00:56] miles__: oh. that's a bit different, eh? [00:56] pooltable, the audio skips? can you be more specific.. does the audio skip get greator over time? [00:56] hello.who know if we can set our mac address to 00:00:00:00:00:00?? [00:56] pooltable, or is it constant [00:56] Well copying the whole install like i said is basically it. [00:56] thank you very much ayecee! i really appreciate it. if i need more help, i will come back [00:56] biborn: you cannot. [00:56] miles__: Do you have separate /home ? [00:56] pooltable No go on the IMAP, it's a corporate Exchange and have no control over it. I've got Win7 running in VM Workstation and will use Outlook using "Unity" mode.. ugh.. [00:57] Shcherbak: What do you mean separate [00:57] dotblank i push play i am playing a wwe file and it say wecome to but it skips the word to [00:57] miles__: see, the way that I was describing it would have made a clone of your drive, but it probably would not have been bootable, and would probably be bad to do while you're actually running on the same drive. [00:57] miles__: Separate partition for /home and/or any others? [00:58] pooltable, I am even more confused... [00:58] shcherbak: No [00:58] ayecee: Well what should i do then. [00:58] pooltable, are you talking about the audio or the actual video [00:58] dotblank the audio [00:58] pooltable LHA-4 1996-97 / 26MEU / 6th Fleet [00:59] pooltable, is the video in hd or is your computer slow/underload [00:59] miles__: is the external disk larger than the internal disk? [00:59] ayecee: of course it is. [01:00] For some reason, the GNOME3 I'm running isn't the right one. [01:00] miles__: okay, it may work anyways then. boot from a livecd to do the copying [01:00] Ayecee: well what command do i use. [01:00] miles__: it would probably be easier just to install ubuntu again on the external disk. [01:00] hello.who know if we can set our mac address to 00:00:00:00:00:00?? [01:00] biborn: can you see me? [01:01] dd214 USS Constallation CV-64 1994-198 USS NImitz CVN 68 1999-2001 USS Portland LSD 37 2001-2003 [01:01] which filesystem should a carefree noobie use? ext2/3/4? [01:01] dotblank viedo HD [01:01] video [01:01] ayecee: yes...see what?? [01:01] MrBushido: a carefree noobie should use the default. [01:01] pooltable, have you tried playing the file in mplayer [01:01] MRBushido: And the default is ext4 [01:01] biborn: did you see that I said no? [01:01] ayecee: i dont know what th edefault is :< [01:01] MrBushido: Read my message [01:02] MrBushido: the default is what is presented to you before you make a choice. [01:02] no i dont [01:02] biborn: Why do you want to do it, some devices support MAC clonning. [01:02] dotblank avidemux [01:02] biborn: okay, now you do. [01:02] it could dbe the actual file is currupt or the container format you are using is unsupported by linux [01:02] Starminn: ah ty <3 [01:02] stuff like windows media seems glitchy at best [01:02] how can i connect to #aethermod @ irc.esper.net:5555 [01:02] MrBushido: :) === grim76^ is now known as grim76 [01:03] hello? [01:03] hi [01:03] miles__: I'm not very good at explaining this part, I guess. [01:03] ayecee: then how can i bypass mac filtering that only allow 00:00:00:00:00:00 to enter the router?? [01:03] how can i join #aethermod @ irc.esper.net:5555 [01:03] biborn: I guess not. [01:03] ayecee: u mean there's no way?? [01:04] eamondo2: /server irc.esper.net 5555, then /join #aethermod [01:04] biborn: correct [01:04] biborn: Spoofing, but this is not supported here [01:04] dotblank with avidemux it look like i can save in another format should i do that then it way work ? [01:04] shcherbak: i don't think you could even do that with that mac address. [01:05] pooltable, yea go ahead and give it a try [01:05] pooltable, if the video is long it could take some time [01:05] shcherbak : make it for educational purpose only, how can i get to it?? [01:05] ayecee: He could ack, but configuring router seems more effective. [01:05] biborn, you can spoof your mac address [01:06] dotblank: not all nulls, though. [01:06] dotblank:do u mean by using macchanger?? [01:06] biborn: could you reconfigure your router? [01:06] he could do some fancy packet forging [01:06] even if it went past the filter, the stack would through it away. [01:06] what kind of router uses all 0s for the mac [01:06] in an acl [01:06] biborn: Wiki: MAC, Man in the middle; Google: configuration [01:07] ayecee, you can make the stack ignore it [01:07] i cant even enter my router even the passwords are correct cause im filtered [01:07] you can send anydata you want providing you have the user permision on the system and you change policy [01:07] biborn: in that case, you may have to reset it to factory defaults. [01:08] dotblank: no, I mean the stack on the router. [01:08] ayecee, oh yea.. it would [01:08] Hello guys :) i have one question before i do a new clean install, should i ask here or in pm? dont want to flood your channel [01:08] ayecee: FYI, im remote [01:08] biborn: null MAC most likely meany "ANY MAC" [01:08] I am missing the battery indicator from my panel and it no longer is in the panel by default like I would like it to be. How do I fix this? [01:08] deadduck: in channel, please. be concise. [01:09] biborn: then you will have to be local to reset to factory defaults. === b is now known as Guest70696 [01:09] Jon--, you could reset your panel [01:09] !panel [01:09] Jon--: disconnect charger [01:09] !panal [01:09] !resetpanel [01:09] To reset the GNOME panel to defaults, type this in a !terminal: « gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel » [01:09] ayecee: that's almost imposible [01:10] biborn: nevertheless, it will be required if you can't access the unit any other way. [01:10] shcherbak, did nothing [01:10] dotblank, how? [01:10] what causes a server to stop respoinding to pings from one subnet to another? [01:11] !resetpanel | Jon-- [01:11] Jon--: To reset the GNOME panel to defaults, type this in a !terminal: « gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel » [01:11] ok, here it is : I made a separate partition with gparted and copied my (/home) folder in it with all the hidden files and it copied fine , now i want to do a clean install of 11.04 and point this as a home folder, will my transmission torrent list be ready after i install the new transmission? (using 10.04 and 1500 torrents in transmission) [01:11] jeeves_: power outage [01:11] scsherbak: then u mean i have set thet router to block any mac wirelessly?? [01:11] is there anyplace to report "bugs" at the ubuntu.com website? (I noticed a couple of bad links, and some buttons that did nothing.) [01:11] jeeves_, there can be many reasons.. it could be a router is filtering traffic or the server doesn't have a default gateway [01:11] also the router could be dead.. or the server could be off etc [01:12] sscherbak: then u mean i have set thet router to block any mac wirelessly?? [01:12] seriously trying out ubuntu for the first time... running 11.04 beta. I'm really, REALLY impressed. A lot of thought was put into this installer. [01:12] deadduck: maybe, providing the versions of transmission in 10.04 and 11.04 aren't too different. [01:12] this is assuming you arnt using PAT [01:12] shcherbak: then u mean i have set thet router to block any mac wirelessly?? [01:12] I have a cisco router connecting my 2 subsnets (internal). I can ping other boxes from one subnet to another (192.168.1.0/24 --> 192.168.2.0/24, and back again), but I can't hit the server. I KNOW the port is working (since it's serving up DNS, e-mail, etc to the external clients [01:13] biborn: that's how you described it.. [01:13] jeeves_, this is off topic for ubuntu.. I would take it into #cisco [01:13] ayecee: ok what can i do to be sure? i would really not have the time to do it manually... i am currently using Transmission 2.00b2 (10722) [01:13] dotblank, it's not a cisco issue. I was just there. and since I can ping other systems on each subnet, it's ONLY the server that refuses to play nice [01:14] Will the GNOME3 install for Natty also work in Maverick? [01:14] deadduck: I can't think of a way other than trying it. [01:14] jeeves_, is there an acl or firewall? [01:14] jeeves_, acl on the router [01:14] dotblank, no. [01:14] biborn: No, you do A) permit ALL and block SOME, or B) block ALL and permit SOME. Try to hook up with A at first. [01:14] then it must be the server dropping icmp packets [01:15] What's the preferred way of installing gnome 3 on 10.10? [01:15] starminn: i try it i did not like it was not sure how to mount my ext hd it is listed in places under ubuntu [01:15] jeeves_, must be a firewall on the server [01:15] pooltable: It's also under places in GNOME3 [01:15] ayecee: would it be possible for me to clone my mac to the mac of wired client connected to the router even if im wirelessly connected?? [01:16] pooltable: Wait, what did you try it in? You're in Ubuntu either way. === yang is now known as Guest99955 [01:16] dotblank, I can hit the server (and all of the services) from the same subnet that the server is on. [01:16] does anyone know if gnome 3 will be available for ubuntu 10.10? [01:16] hello [01:16] biborn: you said that you had blocked all mac addresses except the one, so no, that would not help. [01:16] jeeves_, it could still be a firewall issue on the server tho [01:16] dotblank, how do I check? [01:16] starminn i log out chage to gnome 3 back to ubuntu [01:16] pooltable: You never leave Ubuntu. [01:16] jeeves_, the server could say deny all icmp packets outside my netmask [01:17] shcherbak: i set it to allow, and set all list of mac to nulls [01:17] dotblank, where am I looking for that? [01:17] dotblank isave it not is work in vlc thanks [01:17] jeeves_, it depends on the server [01:17] now [01:17] i did early [01:17] ayecee : okay, then i assume just copying /home folder is ok then? and is a common/used technique? because i didnt follow any guides on the net like http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome to move home folder, i just copied folder in a new partition. its the first time i am trying to make a separate /home partition so i can do clean installs easier [01:17] pooltable, :/ [01:17] skpl: In some form yes (like source), and propably ppa. [01:17] dotblank, ugh, I think I found out why the 192.168.1.0/24 network is hitting the DNS server. UGH! ok, off to #cisco again [01:17] Where can I find an up-to-date GNOME3? The one in the repos is outdated it would seem. [01:17] deadduck: yup, that should do it [01:17] starrminn i did not like it i did not even come here to say that [01:18] deadduck: You don't need a separate /home partition to preserve /home during re-installs. [01:18] biborn: Is it Linksys? [01:18] jordan_U : how else can i preserve it? [01:18] ayecee: OMG what have i done?then how can the local user connected to the router using wired connection connect to internet?? [01:19] biborn: isn't the mac filter just for the wireless side? [01:19] shcherbak: im not so sure ijm not at the scene now to check maybe linksys or dlink [01:20] deadduck: Choose manual partitioning, set the mountpoint for your current '/' partition to '/' and be sure that the "format" option is *un*checked. === draven_sol is now known as draven [01:20] deadduck: still, having a separate /home is easier. [01:20] ayecee: yes u r right...i almost forgot bout that [01:20] biborn: Block and all fields with null MAC [01:21] shcherbak:no. allow and all fields with nulls [01:22] how do i hack 4chan bc i just got banned [01:22] The_Pharoah, That is not Ubuntu support. [01:22] biborn: It will allow none. just make sure you will add your MAC in this case. [01:22] [01:22] Jordan_U, ayecee :ah yes of course but isnt a clean install after format better? . [01:23] shcherbak:i got ur idea but now im disconnected and cannot even connect to add my mac as allowed one [01:23] i already made the partition so.. i am going to try it now thanks for the advice guys [01:23] deadduck: Better how? === AaronMT_ is now known as AaronMT [01:23] biborn: Do you have wire? [01:24] jordan_u files are where there to be asscess faster [01:24] shcherbak:as i mentioned before, im remote...there's no way that i can connect to the router through wire [01:24] Jordan_U: i dont know i just have randomy seen people in forums always recommend clean install , i assume alot of useless stuff being deleted [01:24] biborn: you mean out of lan? [01:25] ogko4g [01:25] jgitghj [01:25] shcherbak: of course [01:25] niaho [01:25] administrator__: Please stop. [01:25] o [01:25] ni shuode shi shenm ya [01:25] shuohua [01:26] how do i change the max volume that i can go up to when im using the gnome desktop environment, alsa lets the PCM volume go over 0dB and I do not want this to happen [01:26] biborn: MAC filtering is only for wlan. Run nmap on wan IP to see if router is visible. [01:27] shcherbak: how to do wan ip scanning ? any hint? === mali is now known as M\aw === Jasonn is now known as jsecc === jsecc is now known as is_awesome === is_awesome is now known as jsecc === jsecc is now known as Jasonn [01:27] biborn: nmap [01:28] shcherbak: how could that be possible if im disconnected?? what ip do you mean?192.168.1.1?? === peregrinator_six is now known as pqatsi_3 [01:29] biborn: I am confused. Are you trying to connect to that router via wifi? [01:30] Hey smart guys: I went to /gcc-svn/configure --prefix=/usr/local/ and typed gcc --enable-languages=c --disable-bootstrap [01:30] output: gcc: no input files [01:30] Did I say that twice? [01:30] stevecam: You can go over 100% volume in Sound Preferences [01:30] I'm reading an sh file that reads ../gcc-svn/configure --prefix=/usr/local/gcc --enable-languages=c --disable-bootstrap [01:31] what am I doing wrong? [01:31] shcherbak: or course i am..and i am failed since i've misconfigured the mac filtering option.. [01:31] no input files [01:31] i'm using iostat to check out some stuff on my system, and it's listing two devices, dm-0 and dm-1, and i have no idea what these are. any help please? [01:32] biborn: then you are not remote, you are local. Do you have wired access to router, or do you know its internet IP (to access it outside of lan)? Or can you reset it to deffault. [01:33] nevermind === xiambax_ is now known as xiambax [01:33] what port does samba run on by default? [01:34] cant find it in the config [01:34] or even better, is there any way for me to find out what ports processes are attaching themselves to? [01:34] MrBushido: netstat -anp [01:34] ty maco <3 [01:34] Samba = Port 445 [01:34] MrBushido: sudo netstat -tulp [01:35] i'll go man netstat [01:35] shcherbak:i dont have wired access since it is my friends router.i dont know its internet ip.and of course i also cannot reach the router by my hand.i am not beside the router my friend. [01:36] anyone having trouble booting since the latest updates? [01:37] ramy_d no [01:37] Booting? Rebooting? Um...218hrs since last reboot...um... [01:37] damn, i guess it's just me then [01:37] ramy_d: whats is your problem? [01:38] i'll go look at what the problem is exactly [01:38] laters [01:39] ramy_d my computer is 5 years old it takes a few to start but is fine for the age [01:39] shcherbak:i dont have wired access since it is my friends router.i dont know its internet ip.and of course i also cannot reach the router by my hand.i am not beside the router my friend. [01:39] biborn: hm... Do not look good. [01:39] I'm partitioning my disks for ubuntu server install - but I cannot make /boot "bootable flag: on" [01:40] The screen juts flashes and i cannot set it to on, only stays at off [01:40] dotblank, are you still in #cisco? [01:40] shcherbak: do u mean i'm dead?? i just want to roll it back to norm,al.. [01:42] shcherbak?? [01:42] biborn: Do not recall to much, in real term you can try to scan whole net in search for The One (assuming that remote management is on), or... === jsec is now known as DRUNKWITHGUN === DRUNKWITHGUN is now known as jsec [01:44] biborn: or try to spoof, but this do not let you far (for sure not to web-configuration-interface) [01:44] right so, pretty sure i did an update yesterday [01:44] watched a movie, shutdown, not it won't mount the drive === mdpatrick__ is now known as mdpatrick [01:45] error is mount failed for /dev/blabla the uuid of the disk here on /root failed [01:45] then the same message for [01:46] /dev on /root/dev [01:46] /sys on /root/sys [01:46] and [01:46] /proc on /root/proc [01:46] shcherbak : and 1 more thing. i have changed the admin username and password of the router.would it be possible for wired user to connect to the router to make some changes to the router?? [01:47] finally, "target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init" then "no init found" and "try passing init= bootarg" [01:47] biborn: Did you use this router to access any logged sites (like gmail), that would give you wan IP. Wired, yes (with new credentials) [01:47] then it throws me in busybox shell [01:48] what package does u1sdtool exist in? [01:48] this used to happen a long time go, but after a reboot from the shell, everything was fine. now it's stuck though, happens at every boot [01:48] shcherbak: i just log into facebook.would that count?and what do u mean by new credential? [01:49] biborn: password/username = credentials, facebook? Not sure that they show last log. [01:49] reading this on the forums now, seems related but i'm pretty sure i shutdown correctly http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1633183 === DavidH is now known as David_HII [01:51] shcherbak: how can they ahve those new password?? sory for the stup*d question. [01:51] theshadow: where do you see mention of it? [01:51] can somone tell me how to fix this error? /etc/mail/sendmail.cf: line 109: fileclass: cannot open '/etc/mail/local-host-names': World writable directory [01:52] biborn: They? [01:52] shcherbak:i mean they are wired user. [01:53] biborn: I ment, if they know new password. [01:54] shcherbak:how if they do not know the password i set??i have never tell them before.. [01:54] What is the most "proper" way to resize a Windows partition, then give it to Ubuntu? [01:54] biborn: Then they cannot (unless they are smart enough to reset unit). [01:55] Starmin: using disk management in windows to shrink first and then create new partition.maybe that's the best way i think [01:56] shcherbak: what do u mean by resetting unit?? [01:56] biborn: I was thinking: 1.)Boot Windows, resize partition. 2.) Reboot Windows so it knows it's there and doesn't freak out. 3.)Hop on a LiveCD and move the unallocated to Ubuntu. 4.)Boot Ubuntu and I'm done if all went well. [01:56] Starminn: windows partitioner is scurry [01:57] biborn: i belive the live cd comes with a tool called 'gparted' which is a pretty nifty partition manager [01:57] use parted [01:57] ^^ [01:57] :) [01:57] Starmin: that's what i mean [01:57] [g|k]parted are the GNOME and KDE equivalents [01:57] biborn: Reseting unit = pressing (for aprox 30 seconds) small (often obscured) button, with in effect restoring factory setting of router. [01:58] biborn: Awesome. Thanks. [01:59] Starminn: Plan is good, just add point 0) Back up all important data. [01:59] The_Pugilist: i think the shrink option is more handy for new linux user which are scared using gparted.in case the progress is unsuccessful,no linux apps is there to be blamed since he done it using windows. [02:00] this is true [02:00] does ubuntu have a hashmap library for c++ [02:00] can someone help me with bridging? when i create my bridge and issue a /etc/init.d/networking restart, all network traffic gets killed [02:00] shcherbak: iam afraid they are not that smart to reset..*igh* [02:01] poop [02:02] this might be my solution! http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1633183 [02:02] biborn: and since no one will use they recently secured wifi, they internet speed will significantly inrease. [02:02] shcherbak: Bleh. I don't believe in backups. ;) [02:04] Starminn: You do not have to belive it, just do it regulary. [02:04] shcherbak: but before i have checked the clients and all are using wireless.i am afraid that they are too brainless [02:04] shcherbak: All important info I have on Ubuntu One. [02:05] Starmin: get an external man. [02:05] join #matrixdev [02:05] Starminn: In One we trust. [02:05] biborn: I intend to as soon as I can. A nice, big one. [02:05] shcherbak: Haha, very nice! [02:05] Starmin: i've never and will never believe cloud computing that hold our data. [02:06] biborn: Nor do I. I don't like the idea of storing sensitive files through cloud computing. Ever. No matter what anybody tells me. [02:06] biborn: But, in lieu of anything better, it's my only method, really. [02:07] Starmin: but just now u said u believe in Ubuntu One didn;t u???? [02:07] what. [02:07] biborn: Nope. [02:07] I'm trying to see if my kernel has TAP driver support, so I'm doing "modinfo tap", but I'm getting: "/lib/modules/2.6.18-028stab070.10/modules.dep" - any idea why? [02:07] that modules.dep file exists, I've run depmod -a [02:07] biborn: That was shcherbak. "In One we trust." I just said it was funny. I'm only using One because I don't have anything better. [02:08] It appears to have a size of 0 though [02:08] Starmin: oic sorry i didn't realize that. [02:09] biborn: :) Not a problem. [02:09] shcherbak : which 1 u prefer? seagate or WD?? [02:09] lsmod also returns an empty list [02:10] Hello. I am trying to find out what graphics card my laptop has . LSHW gives me this: http://pastebin.com/LAvVvhUT any ideas? [02:11] jubei: no sticker on the laptop?? [02:11] modprobe.conf is also empty [02:11] biborn, no. And the manufacturer's site offers all sorts of different configurations so I've no idea what my lab selected when they purchased it [02:11] mt-daapd/forked-daapd is not recognizing all of my music library. Any suggestions? [02:11] biborn, i know it's an intel , just wanna know exactly what [02:11] biborn: No preferencies, well still on IDE. [02:13] hello [02:13] jubei: what OS u use? [02:13] biborn, ubuntu 10.10 [02:13] can I give a user full 777 chown to a folder ? [02:13] Shcherbak: what's wrong with sata?? [02:13] does anybody know if there are still problems connect to a samba share with windows 7 home? I'm not sure if i've messed up my samba config or if its windows just being dumb [02:14] why my nick is banned in #ubuntu ? [02:14] MrBushido: I'm running Windows 7 and Ubuntu 10.10 with Samba shares working fine === jeeves_ is now known as jeeves_moss [02:14] Cengkadak: Your current one obviously isn't. Which one do you mean? [02:14] Irish`: home or prof/superduperawesome edition? [02:14] Hello, I have a problem running the novashell(rtsoft.com) Game Maker Under Ubuntu I'm not sure if this is a ubuntu problem, or a novashell problem, but when i run it i get the results found at http://paste.ubuntu.com/590523/ === MK`` is now known as MK` [02:15] rww: my nick ApOgEE is registered. this one isn't [02:15] MrBushido: two Ultimates and a Home [02:15] Irish`: ok thanks, then it's probably just my config! I'll go read more in to samba [02:16] Perhaps i should add to my question that i am running ubuntu 9.10 [02:16] MrBushido: Home Premium as it turns out, not sure if that'll matter, but good luck :x [02:17] biborn: I am few years delayed with hardware (best PC is P4 3.02), but have sata-usb adapter. [02:17] Cengkadak: I don't see that nick on #ubuntu's banlist. Easiest way to sort it out would be if you switch to whatever's banned and /join #ubuntu-ops === jsec is now known as ZzZzZzZzZ [02:17] is there any reason why my nick ApOgEE is banned in #ubuntu ? === ZzZzZzZzZ is now known as jsec [02:18] ApOgEE [apogee@gateway/shell/bshellz.net/x-vqpxcvdacvygwfog] === shcherbak is now known as Ap0gEE [02:18] Cengkadak: bshellz.net is banned from #ubuntu due to abuse. [02:18] Strange [02:19] 09:18 -!- Cannot join to channel #ubuntu (You are banned) [02:19] I've got 10.10 as my host and a VM Win7, both connecting using OpenVPN. The Win7 works fine, but my LNX host is not getting the DNS from OpenVPN. I can access all the sites but must know the IPs... any workaround other than this> http://www.softwarepassion.com/solving-dns-problems-with-openvpn-on-ubuntu-box/ [02:19] Cengkadak: Am I looking good. [02:19] BRASS MONKEY! === Ap0gEE is now known as shcherbak [02:21] I need help. I had Lucid and Compiz was working fine, but when I upgraded to Maverick, it doesn't work anymore. why? [02:22] fr00g: reenable desktop effects [02:23] It says that it can't [02:23] "Visual effects could not be enabled" or something === jsec is now known as GETONWITHIT [02:23] fr00g: Do you have properiary driver? menu > Admin > Hardware Drivers === GETONWITHIT is now known as jsec [02:24] It says "No proprietary drivers in use on this system." [02:24] fr00g: Do you have any listed to install? [02:25] No [02:26] fr00g: Check your video card (type) and pass through google. It will tell you what open driver you can use to get most of your card. Some card dropping from support. [02:27] How do I check my video card? [02:27] lspci [02:31] guys whats the least i can put an / partition in ubuntu 10.10 [02:31] hi [02:32] Do I use the VGA compatible controller or the Display controller? [02:32] VGA [02:32] mark shuttleworth is an idiot, the best gnome released has been done today with gnome3 and he will write "unity", omfg... [02:32] abiss27: This should help: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/installation-guide/i386/minimum-hardware-reqts.html [02:33] I was wondering if there is a way to make shortcut keys to do various things on my ubuntu system. like say ctrl+shift+f5 to turn on screensaver. etc [02:33] ok thanks for the link [02:33] nvm, sorry about that [02:33] diegovio1a: I think he's going for the Mac ideology of further integration from the base. [02:34] Can anyone help install xp over ubuntu partition [02:35] Gucci: Ask in ##windows [02:35] How do I change [02:35] Gucci: but if you want to eliminate Ubuntu like it seems, just erase all partitions and install with nothing on your hard drive. [02:35] no [02:35] you gotta be official, gucci [02:35] Gucci: /join ##windows [02:35] every time you do something speak in the third person [02:35] How do I reply to you guys [02:35] Make my text red [02:35] Gucci: Installing two systems on same partition should be avoided. [02:35] "gucci mane join ##windows" [02:35] No [02:36] different partitions [02:36] How do I reply to you guys [02:36] individual people? [02:36] So my text is red like your text is to me [02:36] Gucci: Oh. So not over ubuntu partition. But next to it? [02:36] !enter | Gucci [02:36] Gucci: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation! [02:36] !who | Gucci [02:36] Gucci: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :) [02:36] Gucci: try Gucci: make it red [02:36] Gucci: ^^ Just stick their nickname in there [02:36] !Starminn Yes [02:37] Gucci: No ! is needed. [02:37] Starminn ye [02:37] ugg [02:37] ! [02:37] dang [02:37] Gucci: And use tab, like star [02:38] Starminn: like this [02:38] Starminn: got it lol [02:38] Gucci: If you put my name anywhere in the message, it will highlight me and show a popup message on my Ubuntu system. [02:38] Gucci: Awesome! [02:38] Starminn: whas missing the tab lol [02:38] Gucci: Now then, you wanted to install XP next to Ubuntu? [02:40] Starminn: So yeah I have two different partitions, I installed windows originally. Then immediatly after I installed Ubuntu and created two seperate partitions. But I'm pretty sure I messed up somewhere during partitioning so once I finished installing Ubuntu. It booted and no boot options were shown. It now simply loads into Ubuntu by default. I dont know what happened to windows, but It says my hd is still partitioned like I set it. I [02:40] can describe my partitions for you if you want [02:41] Gucci, do you know if Windows still lives on your old partition? It might still be there even though Grub doesn't show it. [02:41] Gucci: So basically, Windows isn't showing in your GRUB menu? [02:42] brightspark: I think it does but Grub doesnt show it. [02:43] Starminn: exactly [02:43] Gucci: Have you tried manually adding XP to that list? [02:43] is ubuntu one always so horribly slow? [02:44] Starminn: No, which is exactly why I need people like you to help me lol [02:44] digitalfiz, live or installed? [02:44] Gucci, try opening a terminal and running update-grub. Off-chance it will solve your problem quickly. [02:44] nick_h, i set a folder to sync and it has taken over an hour to sync a few mb's of files [02:45] Gucci, sorry, it must be "sudo update-grub" [02:45] digitalfiz, idk honestly, i dont use ubuntu except on my headless server [02:45] brightspark: ill give it a try and restart, then get back on IRC [02:46] brightspark: brb [02:46] nickals, i tried it over dropbox to see if it was better but it is like 500x slower so i suppose ill stick to dropbox [02:46] What's the apt equivalent to equery belongs? [02:46] hmm, any pointers as to why i only get around 1.1MB/S on a 1Gb connection? [02:46] or to put it differently, how do I find out which package a file belongs to? [02:46] erm [02:46] ***hmm, any pointers as to why i only get around 1.1MB/S on a 1Gb connection with samba? [02:47] MrBushido: the other end may not have a gigabit connection? [02:47] MrBushido: or maybe a poor quality cable prevented a gigabit link from being established? [02:48] aren't cat6 cables required for gigabit connections> [02:48] officially, but I've gotten good results with short runs of pretty crappy cat5 [02:49] Starminn: back [02:49] it'll work over eight separated 22-gauge wires if the run is short enough [02:49] Back [02:49] cat5e is able to do gb [02:49] though cat5 is so cheap, there's no excuse [02:49] Who was I talking to [02:49] hi guys. i have 6 quad core E5620 servers, each with 32 gigs of RAM. I was hoping to assemble a UEC set-up for it. Should I assign one machine as the cloud controller/cluster controller/walrus and storage controller and the rest as node controllers? or should i find a lower specc'd machine and use it as the controller? [02:49] Who helped me [02:49] ? [02:50] told me to update grub [02:50] Didnt work [02:50] Gucci, how did that work? [02:50] When something is nfs mounted. Does the bw taken from master or client ? [02:50] Gucci: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [02:50] Hey can the update manager resume the updates from where it left off? I mean I'm halfway through updating atm but I need to log off really soon so it won't complete by then, or will I have to re-download everything again? [02:50] brightspark: to no avail [02:50] Starminn: you there? [02:51] Yeah [02:51] Gucci, sorry. thought it might be a quick fix. Last one was. [02:51] Your manual xp addition sounded brilliant (the idea) [02:51] brightspark: no Im pretty positibe i tried that before lol [02:51] brightspark: not that much of a noob [02:51] helpkw, you'll be fine. you can stop it [02:52] Starminn: do you know how to make it happen? [02:52] helpkw, only if you are still downloading, not installing [02:52] sigh [02:52] 238mb of 313mb... [02:52] all over again then yeah? [02:52] Gucci, for future reference you don't necessarily need to restart; Windows whsould show up in the terminal of the update command. [02:52] brightspark: can you help fix it? [02:52] helpkw, downloaded? or installed? you can stop it if it'd still downloading packages. [02:53] downloading [02:53] brightspark: woops lol [02:53] im stil downloading packages via update manager [02:53] 238mb of 313mb... [02:53] Gucci: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-237172.html [02:53] brightspark: im still a noob when it comes to that type of stuff [02:53] Starminn: thank you [02:53] helpkw, then you're fine. it'll have to redownload whatever gets cut off, but you can stop it, and you'll be fine [02:53] Starminn: Ill check it out [02:53] Ah kk sweet, thanks [02:54] Gucci: So you just go to the file that controls what shows up, and add what the folk at the bottom put (adjusted to your particular position) [02:54] Starminn: Im on 10.4 brw [02:54] Im on 10.4 btw [02:54] BR? [02:54] So Grub2 [02:54] Ah [02:54] Do you guys want me to show you what my partition looks like? [02:55] From Disk Utility or something [02:55] Gucci, only if it's purple and fuzzy. [02:55] My video card is Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07), what driver do I install? [02:55] Gucci: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Custom%20Menu%20Entries [02:55] Starminn: would you like me to detail my partitions from the Disk Utility? [02:55] Gucci: This is from Ubuntu folks, themselves, and should cover you I'd say. [02:56] Starminn: ill try the first link to it. This isnt robby btw is it? Starcannon? [02:56] Starminn:? [02:57] Starminn: you see im not sure I partitioned right when I installed ubuntu [02:57] Gucci: No Starcannon I know here. [02:57] Starminn: oh [02:57] Gucci: Why didn't you just use the default installer? Works fine with XP. [02:57] Instead of "manual" [02:58] Starminn: if I go to disk utility [02:58] Starminn: what do you mean? I installed xp before ubuntu === jsurfer_ is now known as jsurfer [02:59] Gucci: "Install them side-by-side" [02:59] Gucci: Anyway, too late now, what are your partitions? [03:00] Starminn: yeah. I didnt know any better. A year or so ago, maybe two years, Starcannon helped me setup daul partition on my old computer [03:00] Starminn: just b4 it died coincidentally lol, 6 years old. Motherboard gave up [03:01] What should I search to learn more about how the [mouse,keyboard, usb, ethernet...] sends data to the computer, and how linux goes about interpreting the data.? [03:01] Starminn: so I didnt know any better this time. I should have come here for answers [03:01] Starminn: Okay anyway in Disk Utility, Under Volumes it says, in the partition pictures [03:01] !netsplit [03:01] netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit [03:02] Starminn: 162 GB ext4 = dark grey [03:02] Starminn: 156 GB NTFS = white space [03:03] Starminn: and all the way in the right we have two little white boxes === abc is now known as Guest20754 [03:04] My video card is Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07), what driver do I install? [03:04] how do I upgrade to the latest beta ?? [03:04] can sb tell me how to install ubuntu 10 on sata hdd? [03:04] Hello - I'm trying to use Skype, and my microphone is part of my USB webcam. I can hear audio output, but the mic doesn't seem to work. When I go into options the only option for the microphone is PulseAudio Server. Any ideas on how to fix this? [03:04] Starminn: Extended 1.5 GB. Under Usage it says : Container for Logical Partitions [03:04] !natty | tyler_d [03:04] tyler_d: Natty Narwhal is the codename for Ubuntu 11.04, due April 28 2011. Help and support (only) in #ubuntu+1. Natty is beta and is not intended for production systems. [03:05] Starminn: still there? [03:05] so I will try again.... how do I upgrade to the latest beta ?? [03:05] God I just closed the view menu up at the top. Anyone know how to bring it back? === Guest47224 is now known as Logan_ [03:06] guys how to install new ubuntu and keep same /home partion without touching it... [03:06] Gucci: Hit Alt or something [03:06] Starminn: i did [03:07] abiss27: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/natty/beta [03:07] Starminn: it says your robert! [03:07] Starminn: You must be starcannon [03:07] Starminn: Its Tejas [03:07] Gucci: Yes, I am Robert. But I'm not Starcannon. [03:07] Starminn: oh dang [03:07] Starminn: Lol [03:07] Gucci: You are testing my patience. [03:07] will have a look , thanks dude [03:07] Starminn: Sorry [03:07] !enter | Gucci [03:07] Gucci: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation! [03:08] trying to get the menu bar back up [03:08] !details | Gucci [03:08] Gucci: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..." [03:08] can sb say why hdd is not visible during installation of ubuntu? [03:09] Im simply trying to bring back the view menu, which i clicked and disabled by acc [03:09] Wont come back [03:09] Gucci: *sigh* I'm asking what program. [03:09] I was wondering if there is a way to make shortcut keys to do various things on my ubuntu system. like say ctrl+shift+f5 to turn on screensaver. etc [03:09] Starminn: woops [03:09] Starminn: Smuxi [03:09] Starminn: i just got it [03:10] Starminn: went to the Smuxi home tab and right clicked [03:10] lwizardl: System->Preferences->keyboard shortcuts [03:10] Starminn: into blank space [03:10] Starminn: Okay so back to the problem. Did you read what my partitions said [03:10] Starminn: I have four boxes under volumes in Disk Utility [03:10] Starminn, yeah but that just gives you option for name and keys [03:11] lwizardl: And you want to set those keys to execute an option. [03:11] Hello [03:11] Gucci: Take a screenshot, and put it on imagebin.org [03:11] Starminn: Yes sir. Brilliant idea [03:11] How can I install gnome 3 ? [03:12] try synaptic. [03:12] Starminn, right but what would i link to for command "screensaver" [03:12] Gucci: Just do Applications->Take Screenshot->Select area to grab then put it on there [03:12] is this channel still for 10.10? [03:12] Hello - I'm trying to use Skype, and my microphone is part of my USB webcam. I can hear audio output, but the mic doesn't seem to work. When I go into options the only option for the microphone is PulseAudio Server. Any ideas on how to fix this? [03:12] where do i go for Natty support? [03:12] !natty | Scotty [03:12] Scotty: Natty Narwhal is the codename for Ubuntu 11.04, due April 28 2011. Help and support (only) in #ubuntu+1. Natty is beta and is not intended for production systems. [03:12] Scotty: Yes, and it will be for a long time [03:12] Starminn: well, 18 days [03:12] Logan_: It will still be 10.10 support. [03:13] *22 days [03:13] Logan_: #ubuntu is for supported releases of Ubuntu. 10.10 is supported until April 2012 ;P [03:13] rww: no, but I'm saying that 11.04 will be supported here as well [03:13] Logan_: Oh, yeah, absolutely. [03:13] that's not what Starminn didn't say :3 [03:13] okk, so it's not suipported here until release? [03:13] rww: double negative much? [03:13] :P [03:13] Scotty: Right. Natty is only in #ubuntu+1 till the 28th I believe. [03:13] my Internet keeps disconnecting me after a few hours of use. Then I must restart my computer. Anyone know why? [03:14] ubuntu+1 is always dead lol [03:14] I have ubuntu 10.04 and an nVidia gt220. the vga port works fine but plugging in a monitor to dvi only gives me 640x480 resolution. I have the binary driver, and the nvidia manager doesn't help at all, that is the highest resolution it gives me! help! [03:14] Starminn: http://imagebin.org/146958 [03:14] is there any way to update to 10.04 from 10.10 ? [03:14] anyone try out Gnome3 today? [03:15] Starminn: I can click on any of the volumes if you'd like me too [03:15] !downgrade | icarus_ [03:15] icarus_: Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system. [03:15] *to [03:15] what does it mean when you try to make depend && make install a program in Ubuntu and then make install, and then it looks like the program is NOT installed at all? [03:15] what do i need to do additionally [03:16] Gucci: So click on NTFS to see where it's at (i.e. /dev/sda1 or something) then using the instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Custom%20Menu%20Entries do your thing [03:17] Anyone help me with my wireless issue? I disconnect after a few hours and I have to reboot. [03:17] Starminn: Yeah I clicked previously, it was sda2 [03:17] Starminn: Let me check it to make sure. Thankyou so much btw [03:18] hello, what tools are available for automating packages to be installed on a new ubuntu installation? I would like to automate the packages to be installed and settings to be done on a server... [03:18] Is there a way to tell skype to not use pulseaudio? [03:18] sur: What do you mean "automate"? [03:18] Starminn: Yeah so its " /dev/sda2 " [03:18] Gucci: Alright. [03:19] theres a way to automatically install updates on the desktop version. not sure about server edition [03:19] I have an nvidia nforce NIC and it changes its MAC address on every restart [03:19] setting the cloned mac address didn't seem to work [03:19] would it be absolutely necessary to resort to the shell script? [03:19] Starminn, I';; install ubuntu on a new machine than tell this tool to set it up with necessary packages and settings [03:20] sur: So why not just write a shell script that runs a bunch of "sudo apt-get " with the "yes" flag? [03:20] pm2: still with us? [03:21] Starminn, and settings... [03:21] sur: Oh..... :) [03:22] acerimmer: i was PMing with pm2 [03:22] H [03:22] aherron: ok. problem solved I hope [03:23] but i dont think it helped... told him to reload the alsa-drivers... no word on if it worked and he ran [03:23] aherron: I tend to suspect he might have set his sound preferences wrong. EZ to do with SKYPE [03:24] sur, see keryx and apt-offline near bottom of page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware [03:25] hello all [03:25] I just installed the beta version of 11.4 [03:25] I love it. [03:25] is anyone know when the stable version will be release? [03:27] !schedule-#ubuntu+1 [03:27] A schedule of Natty Narwhal (11.04) release milestones can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyReleaseSchedule [03:27] @natty [03:27] !natty [03:27] Natty Narwhal is the codename for Ubuntu 11.04, due April 28 2011. Help and support (only) in #ubuntu+1. Natty is beta and is not intended for production systems. [03:27] how do I switch from the proprietary nvidia drivers to the open source ones? [03:28] is the new one any good/ [03:28] who teachs free english? [03:28] when you ctrl+z something in the terminal, does it get killed? or is it suspended? also what is the [1]+ for when you use ctrl+z? [03:29] is there a way to start in safemode? [03:29] in screen, is there a way to move windows between different screen processes? [03:30] vhd, you stop the process and you're returned to the shell. you can type bg to run it as a background process or fg to return it as a foreground process [03:30] then how do you truly kill it? [03:30] does the system revert to the free drivers after you remove the proprietary ones? [03:31] ctrl+c is also suspend no? [03:31] I have a binary driver for nVidia, what lines do I need in my xorg.conf to get the proper resolutions out of DVI connection? [03:31] ctrl+c is a kill signal [03:31] I can paste up my xorg.conf [03:31] hmm i see, I guess I got the two mixed up then. [03:32] vhd, processes can chose to capture and ignore the kill, in which case you have to send them a SIGTERM (kill -9 ) [03:33] vhd, I can reccomend having a look at the jobs manpage [03:34] nvidia-auto-select is used as the requested mode, I think I need to change that [03:37] Hi All. Anyone hear familiar with OpenVPN? [03:37] here [03:38] When I try to connect I get the following message: The VPN connection 'VPNReactor OpenVPN' failed because the connection attempt timed out. [03:41] Hello, I have an OpenVPN issue [03:41] hello gang [03:41] The VPN connection 'VPNReactor OpenVPN' failed because the connection attempt timed out. === Robert_ is now known as Guest47139 [03:49] Hi guys, is there a repository that already contains gnome 3 packages? [03:50] Yes, it is a ppa but I do not have the exact URL [03:50] delerium_ gnome 3 is in the software center already if i recall correctly [03:51] Yes but they are not the latest version [03:52] Thanks Brightspark / tumbleweed. So, the final release of today is not yet avaiable? [03:52] It was released? [03:52] * tumbleweed|iPod checks his facts [03:53] yup: http://www.gnome.org/press/2011-04-gnome-3.0-released.html [03:53] ouchhh.. the pages has been removed (?!?!?!!) [03:54] here we go : http://www.gnome.org/press/2011/04/gnome-3-0-released-better-for-users-developers-3/ [03:55] holas [03:56] Oh i was looking at gnome3.org [03:57] tumbleweed: It's a link coming from www.osnews.com [03:58] how can i cd into a restricted directory with sudo..it says command not found [03:58] Sudo -s [03:58] :) [03:59] thx it worked [03:59] Erm... [04:00] sudo cd lolcat ;p [04:03] hi, i have a kind of issue with my filesystem. i have got ext3 partition on /dev/sda5 and it is not mounted during boot on my ubundu server. i have chcecked my fstab for any errors but it looks clean. than i tried to mount it manually with specified mountpoint and it works just fine, but when i mount it without mountpoint it gets error "couldn't mount becouse of unsupported optional features". i am currently running fsck -c on that partit [04:03] whats a fast terminal emulator for X? [04:03] kermit: Xterm [04:04] lilyterm! [04:05] tumbleweed|iPod: thanks [04:06] holas, un gusto desde el chat de ubuntu [04:06] is there anything wrong with the following cron in crontab: * * * * * /usr/bin/wget http://site.com/daily_cron.php?pass=sdf324d [04:06] for some reason i cant get it to run at all :/ [04:07] tianshiz: No input file specified [04:08] testing [04:08] Hai root_ [04:08] sorry i'm a bit of a newb [04:08] no input file specified? can you give me an example? === M\aw is now known as Malina\aweh [04:08] to both ubuntu and freenode [04:08] tianshiz: Go to the link [04:08] necercis: How does your fstab look (pastebin)? [04:08] root_: We all were at one point [04:09] i ran this command and i'm trying to fix it [04:09] : [04:09] sudo chmod o-rwx -R /* [04:09] !danger [04:09] DO NOT RUN THAT COMMAND! That particular command is DANGEROUS and shouldn't be uttered here. REST OF YOU: DANGER, WILL ROBINSON, DANGER! Do not use the command or utter it here thank you! [04:09] oh well im just putting in a random link there... [04:09] yeah. [04:09] thats not the actual site or the actual file [04:09] root_: You'll pretty much need to re-install. [04:09] Yea that pretty much covers it, ubottu [04:09] i changed the domain name of what i was using [04:10] awesome. There should be a channel dedicated to things you should never ever do. [04:10] Seven_Six_Two: Make one [04:10] what about chmod 777 or something extreme like that? [04:10] no good? [04:10] And invite me :) [04:10] I have a question about setting up SSH servers...is there a good channel I can go to for this? [04:11] root_: Does chmod still work? [04:11] I just did. well, it's not registered..,. #pandorasbox [04:11] root_: nope, that's also bad. [04:11] yeah. i can run pretty much any command using sudo [04:11] It's like back in the day when ppl got duped in to making their irc faster by hitting F4 or alt+ctrl+del twice really fast on win95. [04:11] arand: www.pastebin.com/mqBWZztX [04:11] root_: you'd need to individually re-create permissions for various files. This is non-trivial. [04:12] root_: But if you ran that command nothing is executable, right? [04:12] <[4-tea-2]> Anybody got an idea why I can't reassign Capslock any more after upgrading to natty? (try: xmodmap -e "clear lock" to see for yourself) [04:12] you're asking about the settings, or if i can actually run things? [04:13] Can you execute files [04:13] Yes/no [04:13] yes [04:13] Ok [04:13] as root. [04:14] Try chmod +x -R * I think [04:14] is there an issue with making things like text files executable? [04:14] But you need to make these files in $PATH +x [04:15] arand: whoops fail http://pastebin.com/z9PmreR0 [04:15] files in $PATH? [04:15] ie the path that i used when running command-that-is-not-to-be-run? [04:16] I do not completely understand what command you ran [04:16] You set -x everything on your system, right? [04:16] for the 'other' user [04:17] Just for one user? [04:17] so a file with permissions -rwxr-xr-x is now -rwxr-x--- [04:17] Or all users but root [04:17] ubuntu, desde >Puyca, provincia la union, departamento de arequipa, Perú, el distrito más pobre de arequipa [04:17] Very bad form to be logged on as "root" or even to have "root" as a nick... [04:17] yeah i figured. first time on freenode, don't even know how to change the nickname. [04:18] root_: Oooh I see, man I'm stupid [04:18] necercis: necercis Hmm, I fail to see any reason why it would do that... [04:18] Not really a matter of changing "nick" => being online as "root" is extremely dangerous... [04:18] exit [04:18] sorry wrong window [04:19] necercis: Not sure if using the UUID would help, but I don't see why... [04:19] but yeah that makes sense. [04:19] arand: yea I'm confused, I have nerver had such problem [04:19] <[4-tea-2]> Ah. setxkbmap is the new xmodmap. \o/ [04:20] necercis: If you mount it with -o defaults does it give the same error? === aron is now known as Guest29032 [04:22] arand: mount /dev/sda5 -o defaults /pub works fine, without /pub it does not [04:22] jyk [04:23] how to check how much space my VM had taken through host via terminal? [04:23] necercis: Hmm, if you also use -t ext3 ? [04:23] arand: its the same as earlier [04:24] Can anyone assist me with this? http://pastebin.com/MEnudw6g [04:24] arand: with /pub works, without not [04:24] <[4-tea-2]> necercis: is http://pastebin.com/z9PmreR0 your current fstab? [04:24] What's the root password in linux, as opposed to the login? [04:24] hey all [04:24] [4-tea-2]: yes [04:24] this is the newb formerly known as _root [04:24] Bite: There is none [04:25] Bite, There is only sudo => unless you create a password for the root account. [04:25] Bite: You use sudo in ubuntu [04:25] <[4-tea-2]> necercis: is there a newline char after the last line? [04:25] Guest29032: The repository docent support edgy [04:25] arand: I'm getting the auth screen for running say, synaptics managers. [04:25] <[4-tea-2]> necercis: i bet there isn't. [04:25] but i'm having issues. [04:25] Doesn't* [04:25] Bite, Put in YOUR password. [04:26] tumbleweed|iPod: so you were saying I should just run chmod -R +x * [04:26] ? [04:26] grub error show grub rescue> . if i use livecd always hang [04:26] I get an incorrect password error. [04:26] No, sorry blah234 [04:26] blah234: At the time I didn't understand it [04:26] [4-tea-2]: no there is not, I have added it now but no difference [04:26] Bite, Well, what you can do is to open a terminal, and try: sudo passwd [04:26] tumbleweed: what does that mean? [04:26] tumbleweed|iPod: i see. [04:27] But yea, you need to probably reinstall [04:27] See if anyone else can help you [04:27] :/ [04:27] YankDownUnder: Does that change it? [04:27] Because that's not the issue. [04:27] Bite, That allows you to create a password for the root account. [04:27] Oh, ic. [04:28] tumbleweed I ipod: what does that mean? [04:28] YankDownUnder: Thank you, I understand the issue now. [04:29] I installed ubuntu server, but then installed XFCE over it. [04:29] !noroot | YankDownUnder [04:29] YankDownUnder: We do not support setting a root password. You're free to do it on your own machine, but please don't offer instructions on how to set a root password or ask for help with setting it. See !root and !wfm for more information. [04:29] So the root account never had a password. [04:29] !root [04:29] Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo [04:29] <[4-tea-2]> necercis: you could put "hexdump -C /etc/fstab" on pastebin if you want me to believe that. :D [04:29] rww: [04:29] I was having issues authenticating things. [04:29] Guest29032: The file doesn't exist on the server [04:30] arand, [4-tea-2] I solved it, cfdisk showed me that fs is ext3 but it was ext4. [04:30] yesterday i made video using desktop recorder and from there is an image of the video i am seeing in the middle of the screen and it os still there and not going from there how to fix this please help me [04:30] Bite: then fix that, instead of using a dubious workaround [04:30] necercis: There we go =) [04:30] rww: dubious workaround? [04:30] Bite: in this case, start with investigating gksu-properties and whether it's set to use sudo-style behavior [04:30] Bite: yes [04:30] Hey, a bad video apparently put my ubuntu netbook into a freeze. I'd rather not do a sysrq+b reboot as I have N [04:31] What's N? [04:31] rww: Where's gksu-properties? [04:31] Hey, a bad video apparently put my ubuntu netbook into a freeze. I'd rather not do a sysrq+b reboot as I have an unsaved OO spreadsheet I was working on. Nothing I can't replace. [04:31] Bite: it's a program. Type alt-F2 and type it in there [04:31] Anyone got an idea? [04:31] arand, [4-tea-2] thank you for help :) [04:32] rww: Auth mode: Su, Grab mod: Enable. [04:32] <[4-tea-2]> mute: ssh on the netbook, send a HUP to OO and hope it's smart about saving the file? [04:32] Bite: change auth mode to sudo. [04:32] OH! I managed to get to a vterm. [04:32] rww: what does it do? Asking out of curiosity. [04:32] [4-tea-2]: No sshd running. [04:32] rww: and should i remove the password i set on the root account? how? [04:32] Bite: asks for your user password and authenticates using sudo, instead of asking for the (hopefully non-existent) root password and using su. [04:32] <[4-tea-2]> mute: That's bad. [04:32] Bite: see that RootSudo page ubottu linked [04:33] Okay, will, thanks. How do i remove the password for the root account? [04:33] !root [04:33] Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo [04:33] [4-tea-2]: I wouldn't know how to do it even if I did. [04:33] Bite: the RootSudo page has the command for it. I don't have it handy. [04:33] tumbleweed I ipod: so i shouldnt worry about it? [04:33] yesterday i made video using desktop recorder and from then there is an image of the video i am seeing in the middle of the screen and it os still there and not going from there how to fix this .Also the word written on anything looks like fade please help me to fix this [04:34] rww: Thanks for the help. If i were to install xubuntu from the xubuntu iso and not the ubuntu server, would that be preset to sudo instead of su? [04:34] I'm hoping someone can answer this one for. Is there a auto hide function to this Launcher in Unity? Running 10.10 [04:34] You really don't need a superuser in this era of single user machines, but having the extra layer of requiring sudo permission is still beneficial. [04:35] Bite: I'm not sure why it gets set wrong, or if there are other considerations it uses. It works out of the box on Xubuntu though, so I guess so. [04:35] rww: I would assume so as well. [04:35] new_to_ubuntu1: There is in natty, I'm not sure if it is availble in the 10.10 version [04:35] rww: I just think that there was an issue in installing the window manager over it. [04:36] ooh, pulseaudio's CPU usage is up to 97% [04:36] There's the offender. [04:36] rww: Is there a GUI program that would let me configure grub? [04:36] I'm aware of startupmanager. [04:36] How should I kill it? 9? [04:36] Bite: I just use the text configuration files, so... [04:37] !grub2 | might mention one [04:37] might mention one: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 [04:37] mute: just pulseaudio -k [04:37] mute: Normally doe sit [04:37] arand: I'm in htop. [04:38] gives me the option of killing with a certain signal. [04:38] arand: thanks. I have not put Natty on any of my boxes yet? Are you running it? What do you think of it? [04:38] rww: i just need a quick fix. I don't necessarily want to go back to grub. [04:38] hello, has anyone sucessfully installed gnome3 on ubuntu 10.10?? [04:39] new_to_ubuntu1: #ubuntu+1 For further discussion, I'm only running it in in a VM, hence no unity/effects. [04:39] <[4-tea-2]> mute: 9 (KILL) is for when you want a program to be gone, immediately, no questions asked (so, yes) [04:39] arand: okay, thank you for the info. [04:39] help me please whenever i opens any thing that has black screen it shows my video image that i had made sometime ago over it.how too fix this also the words written above the open thing goes faid [04:39] <[4-tea-2]> mute: HUP is for when you want to give a program a chance to shut itself down properly, just fyi. [04:40] mute: The proper way to restart pulseaudio is with the pulseaudio -k command rather [04:40] <[4-tea-2]> mute: and TERM is HUP for programs that do different things when you send them a HUP (like reload their configuration or other obscure stuff) [04:40] rww: i can't find something specific for removing the root password [04:41] [4-tea-2]: Does TERM work on the others? [04:41] <[4-tea-2]> mute: yes [04:41] Bite: sudo usermod -p '!' root [04:41] The ones I always hear about are 9 10 and 15 [04:42] rww: thanks for everything. I'm off, bye! [04:42] I just installed ubuntu server 10.10, and i am getting random network drops, if I am SSH'ed into the box ill get booted, cannot connect to in via SMB or http, then all the sudden it will come back, Any guesses where I should look? [04:42] pff, skimmed right over that part.... [04:43] <[4-tea-2]> mute: historically, 1 (HUP) is "hangup", which causes some programs to treat this signal as "the user might have accidently closed his connection or X server or whatever". [04:44] <[4-tea-2]> mute: that's why I try it first when I want to give an application a chance to save my date. [04:45] for using 64bit OS in virtual box will i have to enable VT or VT-d or simply both from BIOS menu? [04:45] where do trayed apps go in unity...like xchat? [04:45] Hello. Is anyone else having troubles adding people to msn/pidging? [04:46] <[4-tea-2]> faryshta: I had, until I got a fresher Pidgin from the PPA. [04:46] faryshta, yea i was trying to add your mom last night, but it just wouldnt work [04:46] :p [04:46] <[4-tea-2]> faryshta: usually some error message complaining about an invalid mail address format, iirc. [04:47] [4-tea-2], well I know the emails are corrects. [04:47] for using 64bit OS in virtual box will i have to enable VT or VT-d or simply both from BIOS menu? [04:47] [4-tea-2], can you recomend me other program to access msn? [04:47] <[4-tea-2]> faryshta: I don't doubt that. Get the fixed Pidgin. [04:47] faryshta, I use empathy [04:48] [4-tea-2], I just updated my system :( Seven_Six_Two let me try. [04:48] <[4-tea-2]> faryshta: the bug is fixed in the pidgin-developers PPA. [04:49] <[4-tea-2]> faryshta: https://launchpad.net/~pidgin-developers/+archive/ppa [04:49] [4-tea-2], let me try too. [04:50] pidgin works great for msn [04:50] does anyone know how would I play a midi note from my soundcard? [04:50] pidgin don't work for facebook [04:50] friends don't get your messages [04:50] hiexpo: irssi + bitlbee works great for everything imo [04:50] it's annoying. [04:51] Muimi, well than i am special cause mine does [04:51] get it together, guys. [04:51] better check to be sure. i checked against 3 remote computers and checked 2 local computers. [04:51] but hey.. if you know you know, i mean [04:51] c00lryguy: timidity [04:51] !timidity | c00lryguy [04:52] ill check that out thanks [04:52] has anyone here mentioned gnome 3 today? i'm wondering if/how it can be installed on 10.10? [04:52] you have to use xmpp for facebook [04:52] c00lryguy: It isn't a gui, so in the command line, timidity file.mid [04:53] c00lryguy: also, you should install freepats or something for the intstruments to make it sound nice, there is a gui midi player, but I don't know what it is off hand. [04:53] when ever i try to run ffmpeg i get "ffmpeg: error while loading shared libraries: libvorbisenc.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory " what do i do? [04:53] not that i have seen sysRPL. [04:53] i have libvorbis installed [04:54] Great MIDI => Rosegarden [04:54] someone said [04:54] sysRPL: I saw today there is a ppa setup for the 11.04 version, I think I saw something for 10.10 too, but it was ir-reversible if you install it, so back up first. [04:54] 07:49:42 PM) Delerium_: Hi guys, is there a repository that already contains gnome 3 packages? [04:54] (07:50:48 PM) brightspark: delerium_ gnome 3 is in the software center already if i recall correctly [04:54] Oh I'm sorry. I'm not trying to play a midi file. I have a program thats using midi input/output from a keyboard i have and i want to use my sundcard to play midi notes when i hit the mon the keyboard [04:54] i got earlier logs if you want me to check? [04:54] shane4ubuntu: i'm running ubuntu on a htpc [04:54] shane4ubuntu: there's nothng too crtical on it [04:54] giaga n20 [04:55] Hey people I am new to this bug reporting thing, the two finger functionality of my touchpad doesnot work in ubuntu11.04 although the touchpad section shows it to be enabled . Shall I report this as bug ?? [04:55] c00lryguy, I'm using JACK and all the JACK input/output coupled with Rosegarden => works wonderfully. [04:55] sysRPL: you are at your own risk here: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/11/install-vanilla-gnome-3-in-maverick/ [04:55] YankDownUnder: sounds good. i'm ot entirely sure what JACK is but I'll look into it === xiambax_ is now known as xiambax [04:56] c00lryguy: ohh, that is totally different, scratch the timidity suggestion I gave you then. :) [04:56] Thanks for the input though! [04:56] c00lryguy, jack is "jack audio connection kit" and you'll want the realtime kernel too. probably the easiest is to install the ubuntu-studio metapackages [04:56] c00lryguy, On a silly Toshiba P4 laptop, I've replaced the Pulseaudio with JACK, installed Rosegarden, setup JACK for my keyboard via USB, and hey, it's great. For recording - or whatever. [04:57] cool thanks guys [04:57] can someone tell me of a console pdf tool that will aes encrypt an exisiting pdf, that isnt pdftk, which needs tones of dependancies, something small? [04:57] Anyone know why I would be getting random drops of SMB, SSH, and HTTP connections so ubuntu 10.10? [04:58] shane4ubuntu: that post was from november last year ... i was hoping for something more current [04:58] shane4ubuntu: but ty anyways [04:58] bouma: On ruby, there is a library called Prawn that can do wonders [04:58] Deleting my boot partiton and instaling new ,will it also delete my virtual box from system? [04:58] I believe it is a C extension as well so it's all in C [04:59] sysRPL: ohh, I didn't look at it too closely, just noticed that it could be done, however if the repo is still up, and up to date, then all should be good. [04:59] scratch that, its all ruby [04:59] shane4ubuntu: no problems. thanks [05:00] does anyone here use mon and c# on ubuntu? i'm considering doing some stuff with opentk on ubuntu, but don't know if it has a lot off issues i don't want to deal with [05:00] mon = mono [05:01] sysRPL: Have done very minimal work with mono on linux. (I've compiled some simple programs and run them). For what it's worth, it was error free. [05:01] i've never really done foss ... just my own stuff mainly for windows [05:01] I set up two partitions when i installed- one for / and one for /home. I made the one for /home almost 100G bigger, but when I installed I accidentally set them backward. I am already 25% in /home and i installed saturday. is there a way to fix it? i.e. just swap the contents and edit lilo? [05:01] edbian: do you do any other foss development? [05:01] sysRPL: that ppa was out-dated and pointed to this ppa, that is only for Natty, :( [05:02] sysRPL: https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3/+packages the ppa. [05:02] sysRPL: Not professionally. But I code in python all the time! :D [05:02] shane4ubuntu: "This PPA currently publishes packages for Natty." [05:03] edbian: what editor do you use? [05:03] can someone please help me? i installed ubuntu with wubi and rebooted and it set it up and then i got a flash of code and my computer turned off, now when i pick to boot to ubuntu i get a command prompt type thing and idk how to boot to the os [05:03] sysRPL: :) I'm actually writing my own right now! :) I use that, or gedit and a terminal. [05:03] sysRPL: right, that is what I was saying, :( [05:03] edbian: i need tools like visual studio, eclipse, monodevelop, etc [05:04] sysRPL: Visual studios is windows only. eclipse is available on linux. Not sure about monodevelop. I generally code old school with a text editor and a terminal [05:04] ohh gnome 3, you ruin my life lol [05:04] i have 4 files on my linux drive i need to get off, whats the best way? [05:05] Scotty, copy to USB [05:05] Scotty: use linux to copy them? [05:05] i try mounting it as external, no go. on that one [05:05] cant boot up, gota re-format [05:05] edbian: doesn't that make it hard to refactor/goto compile errors/debug inside the editor/use an immediate evaluate and modify window? [05:05] killed machine with Gnome 3 [05:06] sysRPL: yes. I make up for it by coding well. [05:06] please help me how to recover from this locking the screen shows me the part of current opened applications in a fade from why it is happening and how to solve this? [05:06] can someone help me with this unusually long boot time I'm having? [05:06] I want to upgrade a server to natty, prior to our migrating mail and web services to it. Recently we had an issue where our Xen VPS wouldn't reboot after upgrading to Maverick. See bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/727814. What is the url to find known issues with Natty, and does anyone know of red flags why I shouldn't upgrade now. [05:06] Ubuntu bug 727814 in linux (Ubuntu Maverick) "[Maverick] Reboot of linux-virtual hangs on EC2" [Medium,Fix committed] [05:07] sysRPL: Admittedly I have never worked on a large project (more than 10,000 lines) [05:07] jiltdil, I believe that there's a screensaver that does something like that. [05:08] Seven_Six_Two; no i changed screen saver too but still there is a problem also typing to google serach bar the word typed by me is fade [05:09] linuxtech, is this the URL you're looking for? oops, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+bugs [05:09] Any solution to my problem === xiambax_ is now known as xiambax [05:10] by the way peoples ... i am super impress with nettops and ubuntu ... computers like the giada n20 i got last week http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2372300,00.asp [05:11] aauthor: Perhaps it is. In previous releases they had some pages setup on showing a bit of what they wanted tested. [05:11] i'm not a very knowledgeable linux/ubunut guy ... and i managed to get the hdi with sound working, as well as vdpau for real smooth 1080p video playback [05:11] hdmi rather [05:12] linuxtech, you might also check out this page: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/natty/beta#Known%20issues [05:13] thanks, that is what I was looking for! [05:13] No problem. [05:13] <[4-tea-2]> Anyone else experiencing Liferea crashes (segfaults) on natty? [05:13] Ubuntu 10.04 grub 1.98 ...How do I display grub menu at startup [05:14] moes, the file you need to edit is "/etc/default/grub" [05:14] moes, Edit the /etc/default/grub configuration file, then run "sudo update-grub" [05:15] aauthor yes but what entry in the default file [05:15] need help. installed ubuntu 10.04 on very old desktop. itunes and a graphical game crashes computer. no clue where to start. im thinking bad graphics driver [05:15] moes ... hold shift [05:15] * aauthor checks documentation [05:15] Stronze: ubuntu doesn't have itunes [05:16] GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT [05:16] tensorpudding - itunes via wine [05:16] sysRPL, That works but want to see it at boot [05:17] Stronze, Success stories of running iTunes via WINE - or at least any version greater than iTunes 7.0, are nearly nil. [05:17] I think I tried that once without any luck [05:17] Stronze, and what do you mean by crash? Kernel panic? Black screen? [05:17] yankdownunder - i know, i was testing to see if it would work but thats not the issues, graphics get overloaded and crash computer [05:17] moes, comment out GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0 (i.e. put a # in front of that line) [05:17] moes:hit esc or down arrow key,to see grub menu [05:17] seven_six_two black screen with graphic glitches [05:18] Stronze, can you ssh in from another computer? [05:18] Stronze, Yeppers - been there done that heaps of times...on many different types of machines...just for giggles and grins - I love an exercise in futility. [05:18] Stronze, or can you switch to a tty? [05:18] moes, documentation is at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#/etc/default/grub (file) [05:19] yankdownunder - this a my cousins family computer and their windows did its windows thing. figured why not [05:19] moes: erm, we'll try that again: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#/etc/default/grub%20(file) [05:19] Stronze, try a virtualbox xp machine for that [05:19] seven_six_two im not an advanced linux user. slow down bud [05:19] Stronze, Yeah mate - kinda know what ya mean... [05:19] vyper1877 - i was thinking that but im not sure this pc can handle that [05:20] Anything typing on google using firefox is looking fade also locking screen shows some fade pictures of the running program how to resolve this [05:20] Dual boot? [05:20] Stronze, can you get a login screen with alt+ctrl+F1 [05:20] moes, don't forget to update grub afterwards by running "sudo update-grub2" in terminal. [05:21] Stronze, Just as an FYI, my missus uses a iPod Nano 8gb, and uses Rhythmbox quite happily...however, it's not a "brand new" item, and she's well aware of how to download music instead of "Apple Store" purchasing... [05:21] moes: did you read my comment about holding shft at boot to get to grub? [05:21] moes: shift [05:23] there actually a couple of programs for linux that can interact with ipods, however most ipods have to be older models [05:23] woot learned a new command [05:23] hello [05:24] is anyody available to help me? My nick says it all [05:24] but forgot how to start graphical interface from text lvl [05:24] it's a miracle i was even able to get this chat program going :) [05:24] aauthor, Thanks that worked [05:24] puren00b, there's a lot of people available, but nobody can make you a not-n00b [05:24] puren00b: and my name says i am not a mind reader so say your problem [05:24] puren00b: and you set you nick [05:24] lol [05:24] moes, no problem. Glad to help! [05:24] okay [05:24] how to set my nick? [05:24] i thought i already had! [05:24] seven_six_two :D [05:25] puren00b, register your nick? [05:25] how? [05:25] lol [05:25] Stronze, I'm guessing that gave you a terminal? [05:25] !register | puren00b [05:25] puren00b: Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode [05:25] !register puren00b [05:25] Seven_zix_two gave me non graphical interface [05:25] nope [05:25] puren00b: /join #freenode [05:26] Seven_six_two forgot what each interface levesl are, read it awhile back and forgot [05:26] puren00b, did you have a question about ubuntu? [05:26] yes [05:26] i do [05:26] Stronze that should have given you a text login. [05:26] puren00b, what's up? [05:26] i've installed 10.10 on this machine i'm on [05:26] seven_six_two it did [05:26] and it's perhaps beyond this machine's capabilities [05:27] where can i find i list of the system's specs on ubuntu? [05:27] Google it [05:27] no [05:27] like [05:27] puren00b, You can always try: sudo dpkg --reconfigure xorg-server => see if that straightens ya out. [05:28] puren00b: Is it desktop or laptop? [05:28] now how do i record the graphical error during a pc crash and retrieve after reboot? [05:28] have ubuntu tell me the specs of the machine its on [05:28] laptop [05:28] Oh, my bad [05:28] puren00b: What model of laptop? [05:28] yankdownunder - you telling a noob to access xorg's text file? [05:28] Stronze, and when you login, try typing dmesg and read whatever is at the end of the output (while machine is not working). That might give you a hint. or try less /var/log/Xorg.0.log [05:28] puren00b: lspci gives you some of it [05:29] okay hang on [05:29] Stronze, Nah mate - tellin' him the basic console command for reconfiguring xorg....easy peasey [05:29] it's a packard bell easy note [05:29] i actually can't find any other info on the case [05:29] Um...the Packard-:Bell site doesn't have any information? [05:29] so can't ubuntu tell me what speed cpu and amount of ram are in here? [05:29] yankdownunder - im still learning. of of these days im gonna get unlazy and read the guide i printed up for the nuts and bolts [05:30] Stronze, Um...yeah...reading is a good thing...hehehehehhehe [05:30] puren00b: System>Administration>System Monitor [05:30] puren00b: Any easynote will run Ubuntu, can you boot it (till what stage if yes) === david is now known as Guest2719 [05:31] aauthor, Um...if he ain't gotta GUI, how's he gonna do that? [05:31] YankDownUnder: Oh, ha ha! I missed that part. [05:31] yes it boots [05:31] :) [05:31] 700mb ram [05:31] hey guys anyone plays online chess on ubuntu 10.10 ? [05:31] yankdownunder - love to read but tech manuals are the best sleeping aides in the world for me [05:31] mobile AMD Athlon XP-M 2400+ [05:31] it runs [05:31] lasha: a bit [05:31] 10.10 slowly [05:31] lasha: Nf3 [05:31] so [05:32] puren00b: it will work good if you don't use compiz [05:32] shcherbak: which software do you use ? [05:32] puren00b, Mate, hows this sound => boot to the console, login, right? Once ya login, type: dpkg --reconfigure xorg-server [05:32] i don't [05:32] at least i haven't enabled it [05:32] tech manuals are good when used in conjunction with actually tearing something apart :) [05:32] shcherbak: Nf3 is an application name ? [05:32] anyone know offhand how to open compiz config manager from a terminal? [05:32] it works too slowly; i actually switched to ubuntu because xp was just getting too slow and the CD drive in this one is broken [05:32] !ccsm | geekahedron1 [05:32] geekahedron1: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu: install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' or 'simple-ccsm'. If you install the latter, a new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz [05:32] so i thought i'd tyr ubuntu from a usb stick [05:32] i've installed it now [05:33] lasha: jin (for fics), scid (database), xboard, fritz, arena (wine) [05:33] geekahedron1, the command to start it up is ccsm, but that gives the gui. That not what you want, right? [05:33] yes, actually it was [05:33] puren00b, If ya got the point of getting it installed, ya might, stressing MIGHT be able to get Xorg running... [05:33] shcherbak: i have heard of fritz, from web or from repository ? [05:33] i disabled unity from the gui [05:33] puren00b: ok, get Xubuntu, much faster. [05:34] ok [05:34] but i couldn't get gdm to run [05:34] what's the difference? [05:34] geekahedron1, alright, make sure you install it through the synaptic first. [05:34] it's installed [05:34] will Xubuntu still run google chrome? and VLC? [05:34] but i had no gui [05:34] i could only run things i knew by name :p [05:34] hi, i've upgraded to 10.10 and now apache gives segfaults all the time... where should i look for details? [05:34] Ah OK! [05:34] hi, do you know a link where i can make a kind of ubuntu one but with a folder from my server [05:34] puren00b, Yes... [05:34] lasha: one from web, one via wine (and arena run well older engines) [05:34] yes puren00b , even less resourses¿ !lubuntu [05:34] k [05:34] geekahedron1, quite the conundrum. :) [05:35] i'm having another prolem too [05:35] i can NOT get video to play on this one [05:35] audio comes through but no picture [05:35] even on VLC [05:35] Question about the new version of skype: does anyone know if it will work on Karmic? Is there another place I should be asking this? [05:35] puren00b, what kind of gfx hardware? [05:35] shcherbak: I am trying to avoid installing wine because i feel like it corrupts comp with windows aura :D so there is no popular client specifically for linux/ubuntu ? [05:35] onboard [05:35] puren00b, Um, mate, did you install all the codecs necessary to play video? [05:35] Lancelot: "new" version of skype? [05:36] shcherbak: the beta 2.2 [05:36] shouldn't need installed codecs for vlc... [05:36] i had ral difficulty in acquiring codecs [05:36] and yeah, shouldn't need codecs for VLC [05:36] Lancelot: download it and try it¿ [05:36] VLC is GREAT :D [05:36] yankdownunder - give em that after install guide for his version [05:37] puren00b, possibly an issue with the video driver [05:37] xangua: I don't want to install it just yet in case something goes wonky. I wanted to see if anyone else running Karmic had tried it [05:37] Lancelot: they made new version of skype for linux ? [05:37] i figured it's because this computer just isn't up to running this OS and playing video at the same time [05:37] Lancelot, I was runing skype beta without a problem in karmic [05:37] lasha: xboard and scid is very decend duo, you will need to play around polyglot to get some engines to run. [05:37] lasha: Yes, an update. It's 2.2 now. http://blogs.skype.com/linux/2011/04/2_2_beta.html [05:37] vyper1877: are you running the new version of the beta? [05:37] puren00b, Just FYI, have you thought about using an older version of Ubuntu - like maybe 9.10 or so? [05:37] brb [05:38] shcherbak: hmm ok i will try those thank you :) [05:38] Lancelot: I was [05:38] Lancelot: I recall 8.10 deb on skype website. [05:40] Lancelot: You right, let try it! [05:40] what's the difference with Xubuntu? [05:40] !Xubuntu [05:40] o [05:40] Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels [05:40] hello [05:41] and how hard is it to change distro from this to an earlier one, or to Xubuntu? === rene is now known as Guest20542 [05:41] i need help!!! [05:41] puren00b, Mate, you can just install it from the console: sudo apt-get install xfce-desktop => and wait... [05:41] how big is it? [05:41] shcherbak: sounds good, I'll be back in a little bit [05:42] how can I unistall JULinux from my PC? [05:42] puren00b, I reckon about 30mb or so... [05:42] srs!! [05:42] so wait [05:42] puren00b: Guest20542 JULinux? [05:42] yes [05:42] Xubuntu will STILL google chrome and VLC and it's a 30mb download [05:43] Guest20542 JULinux? What is it? [05:43] ill give you a link [05:43] ok [05:43] ? [05:43] Xubuntu will STILL google chrome and VLC and it's a 30mb download? [05:44] will it still run games under wine? [05:44] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANkVyqVycO8 === awvtui is now known as _awvtui [05:44] Nopes no way to play games under wine !!!! [05:44] puren00b, It's just a different GUI that doesn't suck up system resource... [05:44] where does the extra 670mb go? === _awvtui is now known as awtui [05:44] Too much WINE and ya can't do anything, really... [05:45] i wanted to put windows7 to my pc so that I can do some programing uisng C# [05:45] had anybody a replacement for KMP player the korean one [05:46] has anyone heard about JULinux? [05:46] Heck of a place to ask about different linux distros... [05:47] lol [05:47] Guest20542, you installed it as another operating system on your computer? [05:47] lol dude i'm new here [05:47] yeah, i should not have [05:47] my nick says it ALLLL [05:47] i know nothing about linux other than it's free and i have it [05:48] The only OS I have is JULinux [05:48] and terminal kicks the bollocks out of the DOS prompt lol [05:48] Guest20542, then you could format your drive and install the operating system you wanted on top of it, right? [05:48] puren00b: you can run cygwin in windows, which uses bash [05:48] I try to pt WIn7 but it says that it cant define an OS on my PC [05:48] I thought of that [05:49] okay srsly now though [05:49] you've seen my spces [05:49] what's going to e ideal and yet still do what i want [05:49] i just want to make this machine surf internet and load videos in VLC as fats as possible [05:49] Guest20542: Looks like you need to be convinced to download Ubuntu and install it (like it should be done), any objections? [05:49] how can I format my drive [05:50] I would if I could [05:50] I will try it [05:50] Guest20542, is your Win7 disk a fresh-install license? (I.e. not an upgrade only disk?) [05:50] Boot with liveCD, click SYSTEM => ADMINISTRATION => GPARTED PARTITION EDITOR, format drive. [05:50] hi [05:50] is there a 3d opensource driver for recent nvidia cards? I'd rather not load closed source drivers on this system [05:51] I have a legit key but the win7 is a copy [05:51] hi [05:51] anyone could lend me a hand with something? [05:51] icedtea, Um...the "normal" drivers are fine and dandy...or what are you getting at? [05:51] Guest20542: What is problem? To format drive (before Ubuntu instalation) insert LiveCD (ev. adjust bios booting setting) and start live session, and format drive. [05:51] YankDownUnder: I can't get desktop affects enabled with the standard drivers [05:52] Icedtea are you using the optimus technology cards? [05:52] today i came back from work and all i see is a black screen with a blinking cursor [05:52] icedtea, Um...did you check SYSTEM => ADMINISTRATION => HARDWARE DRIVERS and see if you've got the recommended driver running/installed? [05:52] can I format it before anything else [05:52] no, evga geforce 9800GT [05:53] icedtea, Funny that ....I"ve got the same card.... [05:53] then when i tried to restart the computer it doesnt boot, stuck after post with this black screen [05:53] Guest20542, yes you can. With a Windows disk you can tell it to do a fresh install instead of an upgrade and it will walk you through formatting your disk. [05:53] then i popped a ubuntu live cd and it wont boot either [05:54] gives a error and warning something like "pwuid: Unknown user {0}" [05:54] i will try it [05:54] Guest20542, however, if you want more detailed assistance, you might try going to #windows, as that's there area of expertise. [05:54] YankDownUnder: its recommending I install the nvidia proprietary driver, I'd rather avoid that [05:55] icedtea, Well, mate, that's your choice. All good. [05:55] how can I come back to this chat? I am new at this [05:55] Guest20542, what program are you using to access this chat on IRC? [05:56] it was on the OS hold on let me check [05:56] Guest20542 is using xchat [05:56] YES [05:57] just use "/ctcp Guest20542 version" [05:57] shcherbak: I'm back, how's the client? [05:58] is there a way to measure network data flow ? [05:58] kaushal: open the process monitor [05:58] kaushal, or netstat [05:58] DaPenguin: netstat ? [05:58] I need measurement in real time [05:58] kaushal: do that, or if you pick the process monitor go to the resources tab [05:59] kaushal, cli app, run it in a terminal and see what it pops up :) [05:59] kaushal: both netstat and the process monitor give you live information [05:59] Kaushal You can also add the network applet to your task bar [05:59] alguien sabe español aqui? [06:00] !es | povedaespinoza [06:00] povedaespinoza: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter. [06:00] You can keep an eye on your monitor that way [06:01] hi guiz, just wondering wuts the purpose of hard links ? :) [06:02] why does my firefox jump up to 80% CPU usage all of the sudden? [06:02] because yer loading loads of plugins ? [06:02] I don't have that many plugins, and it did that before when I even had less. [06:03] Could be that "special" plugin - the "Eatupresources.xpi" [06:03] nunuyabiz: flash can also cause this [06:03] YankDownUnder: HA! Nice one. [06:03] vyper1877 that would make sense. can it happen even if I'm not playing a movie? [06:04] Lancelot, (or could be the "ActLikeWindows.xpi") [06:04] XD [06:04] hi guiz, just wondering wuts the purpose of hard links ? :) [06:04] dr0id: the advantadge of a hard link is that even if you delete the first, original file, the second file that was linked will still have the data [06:05] well, that's no advantage [06:05] hey guys; how would i go about finding out what grahpics driver i need in ubuntu? [06:05] I mean, if I change the hard link, the original files are not modified [06:05] also there is another process that jumps up to 80% cpu. It's the gdm/auth-for-gdm WTXQ anone know why that hogs cpu? [06:05] I just upgraded java on my Ubuntu box and now I cannot login to the tax department, where do I find previous packages of java specifically 1.6.0.20 for Ubuntu 10.04 64bit? [06:05] icedtea: so, better just have the original file ? :P [06:05] dr0id: if you change the hard link, the original is modified. [06:05] dr0id: no, if you change the hard link, the original file is modified too [06:05] ohh [06:06] why doesn't things work when I try :S [06:06] hold on, will try again [06:06] puren00b, Are you at the console, or in the GUI? [06:06] Nunuyabi, look at your system monitor, it has happend to me that I close a session where I was using flash and the process keeps living even after closing firefox [06:06] the gui [06:06] i can use the terminal [06:06] termainal is the same thing as console? [06:06] puren00b, SYSTEM => ADMINISTRATION => HARDWARE DRIVERS === _TechAway_ is now known as _Techie_ [06:07] Has anyone tried out the new version of skype in karmic? [06:07] dr0id: I found in some instances some programs can't open symbol links properly though I think that was a while ago and may not have even been on linux, but another *nix os [06:07] symbolic links rather [06:07] Lancelot: so just run netstat ? [06:07] hmm [06:07] i'm trying to upgrade to natty on my netbook but my ssd is only 4gb and doesn't have the space available to do so. can someone point me in the right direction? [06:07] Lancelot: process monitor ? [06:07] vyper1877 that would explain why sometimes when I close or open firefox, an audio that I havn't listened to starts playing. [06:08] din: natty narwhal support is in #ubuntu+1 [06:08] kaushal: that's one way to go. If you just want bandwidth usage use the resources tab of the process monitor [06:08] nope it's different on 10.10 [06:09] icedtea: aah yes. so symlinks just hold the reference to the original files, while hard links hold reference + data ? :) [06:09] hello everyone [06:09] hi Ope [06:09] opera: [06:09] ayecee: this isn't natty yet. this is an issue with do-release-upgrade [06:09] i am a new bird [06:09] dr0id, sort of [06:09] who can help me [06:09] there's no hardware pane under administration [06:09] DaPenguin: thanks :) [06:09] dr0id: a symbolic link refers to the original by name, a hard link refers to the original by inode [06:09] Yeap, sounds like that is the problem, I ended up reinstalling a fresh copy of firefox [06:10] <[nDy]> Hi all, am thinking of starting to use linux (a friend has put me onto it) but I listen to Itunes Radio a bit but I guess that isnt available on linux? [06:10] dr0id: a hard link increases the reference count so the file is kept if the original link is deleted. A symbolic link does not. [06:11] dr0id: thus, you can have a dangling symlink (points to a file that no longer exists), but never a dangling hard link. [06:11] ayecee: you thought symlink referred by inode too [06:11] There are all types of internet based radio playing programs for linux. [06:11] I thought* [06:11] Ask away opera, and someone will respond [06:11] for faster performance [06:11] [nDy]: rhythmbox has a very similar interface, but I'm not sure if it does Itunes Radio in particular. [06:11] dr0id: think of a symbolic link as just a file that contains the original filename that it points to. If the original file is wiped, the symbolic link still points to that directory location but its broken [06:11] dr0id: nope, by name. [06:11] just about any media player will accept an internet url as a playable file [06:11] vype, thank you [06:12] dr0id: the name is often stored in the directory entry though, instead of its own inode [06:12] yeah, own inode. sorry [06:12] i want use opera , who can get me a book on how to use ubuntu [06:12] vyper1877 I went to system monitor and it reports that everything including xchat. The only thing it reports as running is gnome system monitor. [06:13] !manual | opera [06:13] opera: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/ [06:13] opera the internets. I saw thems around here somewhere [06:13] vyper1877 everything is sleeping..... [06:14] is it possible to extent the partition that ubuntu resides on? [06:14] my email is XMYUAN@126.COM [06:14] itilious, yes, check out gparted [06:14] xmyuan@126.com who can get me a book on how to use linux operate [06:15] i gotta be on live cd tho right? [06:15] can anyone tell me how to check out what video drivers i need in 10.10 [06:15] So is firefox running? [06:15] opera, ubottu gave you the answer to that question. [06:15] vyper1877 is it possible that system monitor could report everything is sleeping except the gnome system monitor [06:16] puren00b: the OS should figure that out for you during the install, but there are exceptions and closed source drivers that often provide better 3d acceleration [06:16] not right now. I will open firefox now [06:17] i ask because my movies play without video, audio only :( [06:17] it's killing me [06:17] even in VLC [06:17] puren00b: to see if you have additional drivers that could speed things up, click on System->Administration->Additional Drivers [06:17] puren00b, what are you trying to watch [06:17] i have no additional drivers listed there [06:17] cartoons, movies [06:18] mp4, avi, wmv, etc [06:18] everything [06:18] thank you everyone [06:18] puren00b, dvd? [06:18] vlc plays it all but with no video [06:18] vyper1877 I opened firefox, and even though the cpu usage skyrocketed, system monitor reports it a sleeping! [06:18] not DVD, this machine's dvd drive is bung [06:18] that's why i'm ubuntu now lol [06:18] puren00b: what type of video card/chipset does it have? [06:19] puren00b, can you put the output of sudo lspci -vv at pastebin.com and paste the url back here [06:19] no idea [06:19] whats different between gnome3-session(10.10universe) and gnome3 [06:19] Nunuyabiz Hmmm that's weird, try using htop it is much better [06:19] puren00b, you have to enable universe, multiverse repos for restricted drivers [06:19] I am using htop, that is where I'm getting my cpu stats from [06:19] hey guys. can anyone tell me if gedit's scrollbars respond when the program is maximised and you click on the very far right side of the screen? as far as you can push the mouse [06:20] i'm trying to compose a bug report for the new overlay scrollbars (they don't respond in the same way as the old ones) in that specific case, which i think is a usability regression [06:20] http://pastebin.com/4fiArDKQ [06:21] i think i already have that enabled sykes [06:21] When you open firefox does it stay at 80% all the time or does the cpu usage go down? [06:22] no, it only jumps up there for short periods of time. [06:22] the gdm/auth-for-gdm WTXQ does the same thing. what the heck is WTXQ? [06:23] Seven_Six_Two didja catch that? [06:23] As I started the upgrade to Natty I noticed it is using screen, is it also logging to some file like script does? [06:23] I searched it on google ... no results [06:23] !natty | linuxtech [06:23] linuxtech: Natty Narwhal is the codename for Ubuntu 11.04, due April 28 2011. Help and support (only) in #ubuntu+1. Natty is beta and is not intended for production systems. [06:23] Ok, if you can try disabling or uninstalling your pluggins one at a time and try to run ff to see if one of them makes a difference [06:24] that's a good idea..... I'll try that. [06:24] puren00b, yeah, I was looking at it. SiS video... [06:24] Gots to go, good luck [06:24] vyper1877: mozilla recently published an article about addons that make firefox slower [06:25] am i going to need a special driver for ubuntu? [06:25] whats different between gnome3-session(10.10universe) and gnome3,i want to use gnome3 in 10.10,can i use gnome3-session instead of gnome3? [06:25] xangua thanks I'll google that [06:25] I seem to recall even getting the right driver to make it happy in windows was a trial [06:25] puren00b, maybe. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Sis === ftjla is now known as fgwilliams [06:26] ummm can you e a little more specific lol [06:27] puren00b, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1499280 [06:28] Seven_Six_Two: that seems to be for the sis671 rather than the sis65x [06:28] should i try it then? Putting in the wrong driver can sure mess things up under windows [06:28] puren00b, not really. Those are important reading. ayecee I didn't read that closely... [06:29] puren00b, the second thread is from a search based on your "video card" which is onboard video. [06:29] hmm. is that a very old chipset? [06:29] 6 years maybe 7? [06:29] the thread makes it sound that way. no 3d available. [06:30] thanks a lot ayecee :) [06:30] puren00b: from what I can tell, this one should be supported out of the box. are you having problems with it? [06:30] puren00b: but yeah, no 3d [06:30] oh bollocks, from the looks of this i won't have much luck playing games with it if i do anything with the drivers availalbe [06:31] yes ayecee [06:31] i can't get it to play videos, only audio comes out, even under VLC [06:31] puren00b, if it makes you feel any better, trying to get an ati card to work 8 years ago was how I learned to love/hate the prompt [06:31] Seven_Six_Two: i've been trying to get an apparently supported ati card to work just a few WEEKS ago :( [06:31] puren00b: does it do the same in mplayer? [06:31] yup [06:32] aw man the only things this laptop needs to do are play videos and surf the net\ [06:32] puren00b: what output driver does mplayer default to, and have you tried others? [06:32] will_, wow. I haven't had ati in a while. [06:32] i only have the default ubuntu driver [06:32] brb smoke time [06:34] Can anyone recommend a good low cost mic and cam that will work straight out of the box with ubuntu? [06:35] puren00b: this is a shared memory video device, eh? It might help to increase the amount of ram allocated to it in the bios, it could be that it needs more room to do DRI of video. [06:35] Seven_Six_Two: the open source radeon drivers are pretty cool if you get the lottery of having a card that works. my card downstairs in my other PC is perfect, gorgeous - KMS, compiz, smooth and lovely and moral [06:35] zeus: I don't know about good and low cost, but the last one I picked up off the shelf at the supermarket worked fine. [06:36] zeus: bizarrely, the cheaper it is, the more likely it'll work, since they'll use existing chipsets. [06:36] zeus: I have a cheaper logitech one (maybe $20??) that works fine [06:36] thanks guys === ubuntu is now known as newby65 [06:36] join #python [06:37] linux-noob: no ;) [06:37] i dont need anything fancy, so knowing that cheaper may be better is perfect [06:37] how do i start mongodb service on ubuntu [06:38] I am already using 3 partitions for win7 on my Dell N5010, is there any way to dodge the requirement of 2 primary partitions for ubuntu installation? === dustin_ is now known as folorn [06:38] zeus: that's probably a good rule of thumb. buying a 3D camera with bidirectional sound dampning and star wars-style blue projections is less likely to work than your standard lifecam type thing [06:38] abhinav_singh: perhaps "service mongodb start" [06:39] newby65: does ubuntu need 2 primary partitions? or do you mean for windows 7 AND ubuntu? [06:39] newby65: this might not be what you'd be happy with, but wubi would definitely work [06:39] newby65: you can have up to 4 primary partitions, but only one of them can be "active". however, if the bootloader is installed on the "active" partition or the mbr, that's not a problem. [06:39] I am convinced it does need, as /boot/ partition must be primary and then you want swap to be somewhere [06:40] newby65: swap does not need to be a primary partition. [06:40] it doesn't but it must be on an extended one which takes a slot of primary [06:40] as a subpartition [06:41] /boot need not be its own partition, but if it is, it should probably be primary. / need not be primary [06:41] test [06:41] will_, thanks, I'll have a look at what it is [06:41] ubuntu can be installed on a primary or extended partition [06:41] jingqq5210: test passed [06:41] ayecee: thx [06:41] vyper1877 I have disabled all my plugins, and firefox is running unusually quiet. I'll turn them on one by one gradually until I find the culprit. Then I'll disable it and only enable it when I need it. [06:42] ayecee, /boot/ must be on a primary partition, it might be the actual / partition, yes [06:42] what a difference. this thing has been driving me nuts [06:42] newby: i recommend following everyone else's advice first - wubi is hardly ideal but it WILL work if you want ubuntu without adding an extra partition [06:42] newby65: wright [06:42] right, too [06:42] but that still means it takes a slot of primary partition, and I have only 1 remaining [06:42] so no place for swap [06:43] newby65: the swap goes into the 1 remaining, right? [06:43] as long as the grub is installed on mbr [06:43] there is none remaining after I create the /boot/ (or /) one:) === mike_ is now known as Guest91086 [06:43] newby65: you can have many extended partitions within a logical partition, and the logical partition takes one slot. [06:43] it doesn't matter which partition ubuntu is installed [06:44] ^^ [06:44] just put ubuntu into / [06:44] let ubuntu decide for itself [06:45] ok, to clarify it a bit: 1st primary - taken up by dell something, 2nd primary - taken up by win7 system restore, 3rd primary - win7 OS, 4th - empty [06:45] newby65: provided grub is installed in mbr instead of partition, that should be no problem. [06:45] not the most popular choice, but functional in your case [06:45] agreed [06:46] just installed ubuntu as default [06:46] lol nice [06:47] how to add music to my silent video ? [06:47] jiltdil: have u tried the prithvi [06:47] no [06:47] ayecee: why don't people like installing it in the MBR? [06:47] who's an op here? [06:48] Bluebill-Wolf I was so exhausted after I wrote your nix that I couldn't write a message [06:48] ayecee: No partitions in Ubuntu need to be primary. You can make an extended partition for partition 4 and put as many logical partitions within it as you want. [06:48] jiltdil: I think you can add the audio to video using prithvi.. it is just like a video editor [06:48] indeed, are there any drawbacks? [06:48] Jordan_U: perfect [06:48] !ubottu list ops [06:48] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [06:48] Seven_Six_Two: If you' [06:48] will_: dunno. aesthetics? === chymos is now known as Chymos [06:49] Seven_Six_Two: ... If you'd like to talk with the channel ops join #ubuntu-ops. [06:49] Jordan_U, thanks! [06:49] Seven_Six_Two: You're welcome. [06:49] abhijeet:ok i am trying,please tell me why my mic is not recording sound to any of recorder also when i voice chat to any other person his voice comes to me but mine doesnot goes to him while using Windows OS it works fine [06:49] ayecee, do I loose anything in comparison to having a 'real' /boot/ partition? [06:49] Jordan_U, now that you mention that, someone told me that recently, and I forgot I had even asked. [06:49] newby65 be sure to learn how to use vmware! [06:50] newby65: unless you're using a very old system, or very large disks, I don't think so [06:50] ok, thank you! [06:50] jiltdil: did u tried the voice recorder? [06:50] abhijeet:yes [06:50] try the mic volume, turn it up [06:50] while upgrading its stopped here http://postimage.org/image/2b50uaack/ [06:50] jiltdil: can u see the bars when you speak louder [06:51] abhijeet:yes they are not moving they are still [06:51] jiltdil: then there must be issue.. one sec.. [06:51] abhijeet:i tried almost many but i fail to record my sound [06:52] jiltdil: try alsamix in command prompt [06:52] newby65 they are all real partitions. 4 primary is just an old microsoft standard [06:52] ok now [06:52] you can see a gui right [06:52] abhijeet:yes i see,opened i actually tried alsamixer but idnot understood what to do [06:53] there go to the mice option increase the volume [06:53] abhijeet:front mic or just mic [06:53] Anyone ever use Skype? Me and my girlfriend are skyping, and for some reason I'm getting her video on like a two minute delay and I don't know why. [06:53] jiltdil: u are in lappy [06:53] abhijeet:no in desktop [06:54] abhijeet:also there is option bosss mic [06:54] jiltdil: then i think it will be mic [06:54] what is lappy [06:54] abhijet:ok m trying [06:54] jiltdil: anyway increase all of them .. we will see what happens [06:54] ly: lappy is slang for laptop [06:54] while upgrading its stopped here http://postimage.org/image/2b50uaack/ [06:55] thanks [06:55] abhijeet:actually i tried all of them [06:55] jwtiyar: how long have you waited? [06:55] jiltdil: :( [06:55] its 20 minutes or more [06:55] Who can tell me how to install my network printer [HP laserjet 1213nf MFP [06:55] ayce [06:55] abhijeet:it didinot work again [06:56] ayecee, its 20 minutes or more [06:56] jwtiyar: any disk activity? [06:56] arvy have you tried to plug it in yet? maybe it will hot plug [06:56] jiltdil: okay... have u tried the sound options from menu bar [06:56] ayecee, i dont understand [06:56] there check the input h/w [06:56] abhijeet:i tried but you tell me i will also try it please [06:56] jwtiyar: there is a light that flashes when your disk is used. do you see that flashing? [06:57] ayecee, nope [06:57] jiltdil: okay [06:57] abhijeet:please wait for 5min i am coming some urgent if u don't mind [06:57] jwtiyar: there are two options, and neither one is pretty. one is to open a terminal and try to figure out what is stuck. the other is to reboot and pray. === Guest84973 is now known as Khisanth [06:58] jiltdil: sure [06:58] Khisanth: have i seen you on efnet? [06:58] no [06:58] ok [06:59] ayecee, sorry but i dont know what to do in terminal ? , its not finished yet to restart it [07:00] jwtiyar: run "ps aux" and pastebin the results [07:00] disculpa el canal de español cual es?? [07:01] ayecee, http://pastebin.com/mDGsGC9J [07:01] nunuyabiz: Thanks.I've plug it in my computer all ready. [07:01] jwtiyar: sorry, "ps auxwww" [07:02] como hago para ir al panel de español.. [07:02] !es | povedaespinoza [07:02] povedaespinoza: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter. [07:02] ayecee, http://pastebin.com/KeSjSL2J [07:03] nunuyabiz: The printer can be found.But the driver is wrong...and,I can not find the current driver for ubuntu [07:04] jwtiyar: my guess is to "kill 26903", the process that's trying to start mysql. Anyone else want to take a stab at it? [07:04] ayecee, ok whats whole command to kill it? [07:04] jwtiyar: that's the whole command [07:05] arvy here is a thread on how to do it: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=200179 [07:05] hello [07:05] y helo [07:06] how goes it? [07:06] ayecee, i did and itarted again [07:06] NegativeZer0, ask your question [07:06] jwtiyar: with a different process id? [07:06] ;) [07:07] nunuyabiz: thanks [07:07] ayecee, after i killed mysql the installing updates started againg and its doing updates now [07:07] jwtiyar: oh good! [07:08] ayecee, thanks , i will install lamp again if the mysql doesnt work [07:08] abhijeet:thanx should we proceed now please [07:08] arvy I don't know if that will work but I think it's worth trying. I see you said you can't find the driver, but Besides, whatever is wrong may become evident when you go throught that. [07:08] brusque up! [07:08] ok [07:09] wats best filesystem for linux? ext4? [07:09] RealOpty: yes, sure [07:09] there's no best, ext4 is pretty good for a lot of things though [07:09] theres a lot of things you can do with files and each scenario will have an ideal choice; but for general use, ext4 [07:10] is ext3 better? [07:10] RealOpty: not in a way that you'd notice. [07:10] depends, ext4 has different file allocations and extents, which can make it much faster in ideal situations [07:10] mmm does the journal use less filespace? [07:10] ext3 added a journal to ext2 and made some other changes, but nothing i can remember stands out as worth mentioning [07:11] couldn't say [07:11] RealOpty ext4 is good for fast bootup and it is more mature than ext3 it has greater recovery capabilities [07:11] лорарвр [07:11] Ffff [07:11] nunuyabiz: wait, what? more mature? [07:11] journaling uses more space [07:11] nunuyabiz: I think you're using that term in a way I have not seen. [07:11] lol [07:11] jiltdil: okay [07:12] nunuyabiz: perhaps you meant "modern" or "advanced" [07:12] the log size is adjustable but you probably wouldn't want to mess with anything you can change when you create the fs; defaults are good outside of exceptional cases [07:12] i think he means more like bleeding edge [07:12] Hi, i would like to create a script that backup some files and send me an e-mail at the end... what should i use to send an e-mail in a bash script? [07:12] xro: maybe sendmail [07:12] your right, that is not the correct use of mature [07:12] ^- sendmail [07:13] but sendmail is a mail server, no? [07:13] xro: yes, and it's also a command to send mail [07:13] xro: bsd-mailx works and is small / default thing for most packages needing to send mail [07:13] abhijett:please tell me hnow what to do [07:14] xro: and much less complex if you just want to send a mail to a local or remote address [07:14] ayecee it seemed to me that ext3 was more mature than ext2, even thought the bugs may not have been worked out. [07:14] hi guys need help with scripting. here is the line: CRITICAL - load average: 0.48, 0.53, 0.54|load1=0.480;0.000;0.000;0; load5=0.525;0.000;0.000;0; load15=0.540;0.000;0.000;0; [07:14] Anyone have any suggestions on nvidia HDMI audio? I dont want to remove pulseaudio :\ [07:14] and don't really want to install a mail server on a production server... so i would like a minimal tool to send mail... mailx is the best? [07:14] i wanted to get the 0.54 only so how can i cut everything else [07:14] nunuyabiz: in what way? [07:15] RealOpty: probably should state the problem, from the information you've given, you just need to switch the device in the volume control properties [07:15] RealOpty: unless you mean you want to _use_ hdmi, and send more than pcm stereo [07:15] oh yeah lol [07:15] wasn't ext3 based on ext2 but journaling was added to it? [07:15] xro: no best, but like i said, small/simple, and default used by a lot of packages that send mail [07:16] nunuyabiz: among other things, but yes [07:16] problem is it dont work with pulseaudio. it detects it but no sound. but ALSA works [07:16] ohsix, ok... so i will use it... [07:16] nunuyabiz: there's lwn articles about it, and detailed summaries on kernelnewbies.org, btu you'd have to find out what kernel it was introduced in [07:16] xro: check out SSMTP [07:16] thanks all for your advices [07:16] ok [07:17] nunuyabiz: that was the most notable feature, but there were also directory htrees, and presumably other things [07:17] xro: its what i use in my projects. very small stripped down, can connect out externally to like gmail for sending, or send from the localhost, secure and only does what you need it to [07:18] How to install gnome3 stable in ubuntu 10.10?.. [07:18] RealOpty: you might need to set default-sample-rate; but i don't think you still need to, it would be something to try (don't forget to revert it if it isn't the fix) it's in /etc/pulse/daemon.conf, and you can restart pulse with killall pulseaudio or pulseaudio -k [07:18] is gnome3 stable? [07:18] sangeeth: i believe its apt-get install gnome3-session [07:19] ohsix, ty ill try [07:19] !ALSA [07:19] superman097: i don't think it is upstream yet, but i haven't checked in a while [07:19] If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !players and !mp3. [07:19] superman097: gnome3 was officially released today, so yes [07:19] that settles that, thanks noisewaterphd [07:19] hi [07:19] i got "##c++ Cannot send to channel", does anyone tell me what happened? [07:19] Big_bear: you probably need to be registered to speak === jeff_ is now known as Guest94162 [07:19] Big_bear: you got banned or muted [07:19] or need to register. [07:20] ohsix: i don't think the release has made it in to the package repositories yet, I have no idea whats in there right now [07:20] or it's +m and you're not voiced [07:20] noisewaterphd: I hope that it is not yet updated with the latest release... [07:20] help! if i go to sound properties, no sound hardware is detected! and i cant play any audio [07:20] i have a problem, the update manager is mentioning an upgrade to me, but i don't know what it would be upgrading to. how do i find out? [07:20] but in lspci, it shows 00:05.0 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP61 High Definition Audio (rev a2) [07:20] ruan: see if the output of fuser -v /dev/snd/* is empty [07:20] sangeeth: no, im sure the official release hasnt made it in yet, but you can download and build yourself [07:20] thanks [07:20] ohsix: Specified file name /dev/snd/* does not exist. [07:20] Is there any way in the software center to find out which package is teh most popular? [07:20] noisewaterphd: Thanks !!! [07:21] thanks all [07:21] noisewaterphd: Hope building it would be simple... [07:21] ruan: then something is very wrong, did you mess with the sound related modules, modprobe.d options, or try and install from source OSS or newer versions of alsa? [07:21] cheater00 what version of ubuntu are you running? [07:21] sangeeth: hah! that's funny. [07:21] 10.04 LTS [07:21] ohsix: i tried to install OSS before this happened, not from source though [07:21] ayecee: Which is??? [07:22] sound was very choppy in OSS [07:22] ruan: well there you go, just revert it and forget OSS exists; come back with your real problem and we'll fix it without papering over it :] [07:22] sangeeth, should be straightforward if you are comfortable building from source, or maybe gnome has a .deb download already, i don't know. [07:22] Anyone use OpenWRT :D ? [07:22] cheater00 it will upgrade to 10.10 [07:22] noisewaterphd: Cool [07:22] ohsix: how do i revert it? remove the packages? [07:22] sangeeth: the idea that any gnome project would be easy to compile :) [07:22] RealOpty: kind of the wrong channel, eh? [07:22] sangeeth: i'd just hit http://gnome3.org and see what is available. [07:22] nunuyabiz: but i chose not to upgrade to 10.10 when it first came out, why would it be mentioning the upgrade now? [07:22] sangeeth: and report back your experience because I'm considering checking it out myself [07:23] ruan: what's the package name? [07:23] ayecee, nah, just wondering if any one that uses ubuntu uses it :) [07:23] RealOpty: in that case, yes :) [07:23] cheater00 you don't need to upgrade, and you don't have to. Just don't click on the upgrade button and close the update manager [07:23] ohsix: oss4-base [07:23] ohsix: and oss4-compat and gtk [07:24] ruan: chances are the package blacklists all of the alsa modules too [07:24] noisewaterphd: I had already checked it out... The beta version before 3 days... It's real awesome... Especially the modifications for chat and Activities, a new addition are superb... [07:24] it does [07:24] nunuyabiz: ok, but why is it all of a sudden mentioning the upgrade at all? [07:24] ruan: ok purge it [07:24] hello guys i tried to update my 10.10 to 11 and now it freezes at startup [07:24] noisewaterphd: Just do it, sudo apt-get install gnome3-session [07:24] cheater00 It's just letting you know. I don't upgrade because I want LTS [07:24] i am able to drop into root shell and start up gdm from there [07:24] ok brb, rebooting [07:24] but other than that normal boot freezes [07:24] noisewaterphd: I already got it, but not getting any update for the first stable release [07:25] nunuyabiz: but it let me know a few months back already [07:25] noisewaterphd: Will try to build it [07:25] nunuyabiz: why would it "let me know" again? [07:25] Nick_Meister sounds like a video card driver problem [07:25] ayecee, i <3 openwrt. do you use ushare at all? [07:25] RealOpty: never heard of it [07:25] cheater00 it will always let you know. It doesn't matter if it lets you know [07:25] icedtea, so what should i do>??? [07:25] Nick_Meister: look at the xorg.log in /var/log [07:26] nunuyabiz: then why did it not let me know every time i ran the upgrade manager for the last 6 months? [07:26] cheater00 just a fluke! [07:26] where does this fluke come from? i want to figure it out [07:26] sangeeth: it looks like the gnome3 website hasnt even been updated yet which is wierd. you wouldnt think they would send out a press release before the site is ready? here is a link to the press release though: http://www.gnome.org/press/2011/04/gnome-3-0-released-better-for-users-developers-3/ [07:26] Nick_Meister: Xorg.0.log, sorry [07:26] ayecee, its a upnp streamer thingy. love it. just needs a the ability to transcode on the fly. [07:26] cheater00 it doesn't matter. That's all that matters. [07:26] icedtea, where can i find that? [07:26] ohsix: thanks! my sound works now [07:27] i don't think you have helped me [07:27] evil oss :( [07:27] ruan: np, why did you bother with OSS? [07:27] Nick_Meister: its in "/var/log" folder [07:27] ohsix: a game needed it [07:27] RealOpty: transcoding on the fly sounds processor intensive [07:27] cheater00 feel fortunate, now you have a purpose in life! [07:27] ohsix: sound was choppy with its version [07:27] ruan: padsp or aoss didn't work? [07:27] icedtea, ok ill brb going to go check it out [07:27] ohsix: havent tried aoss, padsp came out choppy, original game had no sound at all [07:27] noisewaterphd: Just check this out... Goto gnome.org and then click on the banner that's appearing... [07:27] cheater00 I'm really trying! [07:28] i don't think so [07:28] ok, never mind [07:28] woah [07:28] now it's not choppy anymore [07:28] maybe there's someone else who actually knows [07:28] ayecee, it is indeed. i just need to find a codec that works on the PS3 and XBMC [07:28] RealOpty: oh hey, that looks useful [07:28] sangeeth: thanks, found it [07:28] noisewaterphd: No problem :) !!! [07:29] ruan: pulse can get a little messed up if it's long lived, something with the resampler and swapping out; i haven't tracked it down, but it is safe to kill it if you suspect it is messing up, it will restart itself [07:29] noisewaterphd: It is really cool... I suggest you to try it... [07:29] cheater00 you could be that someone! what an honor! [07:29] i bet rhythmbox would like talking to that [07:29] icedtea, the last thing that it says is NVIDIA using gamma correction and boom EOF [07:29] nunuyabiz: please stop trolling [07:29] noisewaterphd: Also, for its complete features try some features description in any site... [07:30] ayecee, rythmbox needs a upnp client integrated. [07:30] cheater00: what was your question? [07:30] sangeeth: here is what looks like a decent write up on installing gnome3 on ubuntu from the source repo: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/10/install-gnome-shell-from-git-in-ubuntu.html [07:30] RealOpty: doesn't it have one? I don't have it handy to check [07:30] RealOpty: maybe as a plugin [07:30] it does have one, you just need to turn it on [07:31] noisewaterphd: Checking it out... [07:31] sangeeth: ya, I plan to install it this week and see what's up. I'm testing out unity on 11.04 right now, and so far I'm not very impressed at all [07:31] ayecee, i dont remember seeing it in the pluin list [07:31] * RealOpty looks again [07:31] Nick_Meister: if you hit ctrl+alt+f1 can you return to a console? [07:31] cheater00: To have it only prompt for LTS releases go to System > Administration > Software Sources and change the "Show new distribution releases:" option to "Long Term support releases only". [07:32] noisewaterphd: Oh !! Let's Wait till it gets perfect !!! [07:32] Nick_Meister: or does X just freeze up [07:32] icedtea, nope complete freeze [07:32] icedtea: that's tty [07:32] jingqq5210: ty [07:32] noisewaterphd: But, I love GNOME 3... Try it right now... sudo apt-get install gnome3-session === newbie is now known as Guest83073 [07:32] noisewaterphd: It's really COOOOOL... [07:33] Jordan_U: that's the weird thing, i remember having set it when 10.10 first came out, and it still is set. what do you think is going on? [07:33] ohsix, where can i find this plugin? [07:33] Nick_Meister: where you using the nvidia closed source drivers before? [07:33] RealOpty: in the options [07:34] hi all my problem after install lamp and php5 all my systm not work how can add php4 in server [07:34] icedtea, i was using nvidia-current package [07:35] sangeeth: i may do it sooner than later, ive got a multiboot system and im using natty right now. I'll probably boot back into meerkat to install gnome3 though. Maybe tomorrow [07:35] i'm trying to delete a user but i get an error that the user is logged in [07:35] ohsix, its not in the plugin list lol or 'options' [07:35] cheater00: Can you pastebin your /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades? [07:35] hey guys [07:35] got a problem [07:35] ain't there a firefox 4 for ubuntu yet ? [07:35] but, if i ps ef|grep username or |grep uid, nothing shows up [07:36] RealOpty: hm [07:36] NoPasaran: Firefox 4 will be inbuilt in Ubuntu 11.04 [07:36] it's just "[DEFAULT]", comments, and "prompt=lts". (without the quotes) [07:36] ok thanks [07:36] RealOpty: it's here, theres a rhythmbox-plugins package, but i don't remember having to had it installed and it's worked as long as i can remember [07:37] Jordan_U: ^ [07:37] cheater00: "prompt" or "Prompt"? [07:37] join #ubuntu cn [07:37] lowercase. [07:37] RealOpty: hm it's not here anymore, let me look into it [07:38] 中文如何进入？ [07:38] cheater00: Try changing it to "Prompt" then. [07:38] Jordan_U: ok. how does it look on your installation? [07:38] Nick_Meister: can you post the Xorg.0.log somewhere? [07:38] RealOpty: it's in rhythmbox-plugin-coherence, i forgot i reinstalled [07:38] cheater00: Prompt=normal [07:38] NoPasaran: firefox4 is in the package manager right now. just sudo apt-get install firefox [07:38] icedtea, do you happen to know the command line tool to send files to pastebin>>>??? [07:39] cause its a different computer [07:39] ohsix, ty :) [07:39] any answer [07:39] !pastebinit | Nick_Meister [07:39] Nick_Meister: pastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com [07:39] NoPasaran: its been there for at least a week, because i installed it about a week ago [07:39] Jordan_U: that has not changed the behaviour of update-manager [07:39] cheater00: Can you post a screenshot? [07:40] i tried apt-get pastebininit and it said not found [07:41] apt-get install pastebininit [07:41] Nick_Meister go to paste.ubuntu.com [07:41] icedtea, it did not work [07:41] Nick_Meister: sudo apt-get install pastebinit [07:41] dont work.... [07:42] cheater00: it has an upgrade button but doesn't say what version? its safe to click on that button btw, it will bring up a readme about the new release; which you can cancel [07:42] It should. Dbl check [07:42] Nick_Meister: Please pastebin the exact output of "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" [07:42] wth.... [07:42] ohsix: no it has a "partial upgrade" button [07:43] ohsix, Jordan_U: http://tinyurl.com/3vhgugh [07:43] cheater00: peculiar [07:43] cheater00: Partial upgrade is not the same as distribution upgrade. Partial upgrade is most likely caused by a PPA. [07:43] yes! [07:43] Jordan_U: hmm.. [07:43] (ppas should be purged before upgrades) [07:44] cheater00: ahh that is a different dialogue than most people would think based on what you have said [07:44] ohsix: "purged"? what does this mean? [07:44] cheater00: it doesn't mean a distro upgrade, it means among the packages with new versions, it can only handle partially upgrading them [07:45] hmmmm [07:45] cheater00: Partial upgrade means that some packages have been held back or need to be removed to complete the upgrade. As the message states this shouldn't normally happen with a stable release, unless you are using third party packages / repositories. [07:45] ok, sorry about the confusion then [07:45] cheater00: i was talking about distro upgrades, (say 10.04 -> 10.10, which this isn't is) but the package ppa-purge removes and pins original versions to restore your system as if the ppa hadn't been installed [07:45] cheater00: no problem [07:45] ohsix: so was i - i thought it was a distro upgrade [07:45] how do i find out any details about what cannot be "upgraded"? [07:45] anyone have a clue to how to get aptitude to prefer solutions that will do holds over any installs or removals [07:45] cheater00: Run "sudo apt-get upgrade" in a terminal. [07:46] cheater00: i'd use aptitude, synaptic can probably give you a list too; but i don't use it [07:46] noisewaterphd: did you find it in Synaptic? [07:46] where do i get skype the full version, not the beta version? [07:47] The following packages have been kept back: winetricks ok, makes perfect sense [07:47] thanks guys! [07:47] ubuntu cn [07:47] what mean %u example firefox %u for a command? [07:48] ljsoftnet: I think they only offer the beta version right now [07:48] erkan^, that would be to pass firefox a variable, like a file name [07:48] icedtea ah ok, you know where i can get the 2.1 version? [07:48] ow ok [07:48] erkan^, or a url, of course [07:49] ljsoftnet: not been released yet I believe. I check the website ever so often [07:49] Seven_Six_Two, sorry for pm. i am tried a url [07:49] ljsoftnet: www.skype.com has deb's to install from there [07:50] icedtea the latest beta version, is showing a very dark color on my webcam [07:50] ubuntu 中文聊天室如何进入？ [07:50] erkan^, no problem. if it is calling that in a shortcut or menu item, it would also be use with "open with" in context menus and such [07:50] yes i understand it [07:50] hi [07:50] systemf1: #ubuntu-cn [07:51] icedtea 谢谢 [07:51] can i use 11.04 already for productive needs? [07:51] #ubuntu-cn [07:51] systemf1, !ubuntu-cn [07:51] err... [07:52] i'm having some audio problems. mp3blaster is saying "failed to open sound device." my audio works on rythmbox and movie player though. any thoughts? [07:52] kreantos: no, and #ubuntu+1 for support [07:52] systemf1: /join #ubuntu-cn [07:52] ok, thanky you [07:52] anybody able to tell me why I can't get tftpd running no matter what I try? [07:53] dnsmasq is supposed to enable it, no? [07:54] ljsoftnet: strange, yeah the skype beta for linux isn't as nice as the windows one unfortunately, they really haven't put that much time into it and it shows [07:55] * RealOpty trys gnome3 [07:55] icedtea ok thanks, im gonna try 2.1 which worked, im downloading it rigth now [07:57] um lol gnome3 reminds me of a crippled netbook running ubuntu [07:57] :] [07:59] RealOpty: you should try unity if you think gnome3 is bad [08:00] I see my self revisiting xcfe in the near future [08:00] ^- same [08:00] or the classic session [08:00] <3 terminal [08:01] well, if i have to bother messing with defaults, i slightly prefer xfce anyway so I would go back. gnome2 isnt bad enough to warrant the small amount of work, unity on the other hand definitely does [08:01] does flash work in lynx LOL ? [08:02] should [08:02] RealOpty: it probably could with great effort, or for silliness, but i don't know of anyone who has done such things :] [08:03] at least someone caught my humor [08:03] apparently you missed mine [08:04] lol :) why am i awake at 3 am? [08:04] I noticed it [08:04] east coast eh? [08:04] RealOpty, maybe you are like me, and think better when nobody else is around. [08:05] I do love quiet time. [08:06] oh yeh now i remember ! [08:06] anyone use XBMC? [08:07] I have in the past [08:07] like on the oldschool xbox? [08:07] no, on a pc [08:07] oh, yes. like that. but it was in ubuntu [08:08] noisewaterphd: still have problems with firefox [08:08] Other than gnome, I only use ice on my server [08:09] If I put my home directory on a separate partition, is it easier for me to resize that partition later? [08:09] anyone know the apt-get line for grabbing codecs? [08:09] I have a NAS that runs OpenWRT, i use ushare to stream my media to 3 xbox's, 2 ps3s, and a few computers. i need a codec that works on all. [08:09] HI, quick question is there anyway that i can play " rtsp link extension .wsx in vlc player? well its live feed. all comments/help welcome. [08:09] MK`, no [08:09] NoPasaran: what problems [08:09] kriscolt, which codecs [08:09] hello there [08:09] is there anyone can help please? or is there anyway to download or convert that stream to another wmv or any other extension? [08:09] um... all of them? [08:09] kriscolt do a google on medibuntu [08:10] is just say " firefox is already the newest version. [08:10] i think i'm trying to play divx or xvid [08:10] hello there [08:10] Hey guys - Simple question: what's a good way of 'preloading' a copy of Ubuntu onto a spare harddisk(from within a ubuntu install)? [08:10] hi I made sudo adduser --system --no-create-home --group svn [08:10] and now I am trying to connect via ssh and ubuntu wants password to log in - when I turned on users manager then I can not see user svn - where is a problem - how to set up the password? [08:10] how to ping 3 ip at same time ? [08:10] kriscolt, for general stuff in the terminal sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras if your runninh=g ubuntu [08:10] and i can't find it in Synaptic [08:10] i mean how to ping 3 URL same time [08:10] Ah, so I need to have both mounted at all times? [08:11] i mean is it possible to ping : $ping www.bing.com www.google.fr www.yahoo.fr [08:11] NoPasaran: sorry, i though it was there by default, it looks like you actually need to add this repository: ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable [08:11] at the same time ? [08:11] MK`, if you only have / and /home then more or less. You don't have to have /home mounted unless you want to do something user related. [08:12] Adding new system user `svn' (UID 117)... [08:12] adding a system user `svn' (UID 117) to group `svn'... [08:12] tyreza: Uh... why? [08:12] and now I am trying to connect via ssh and ubuntu wants password to log in - when I turned on users manager then I can not see user svn - where is a problem - how to set up the password? [08:12] just liket that [08:12] MK`, which of course is just about everything except fixing stuff [08:12] while updating my ubuntu 10.10 is Shows me error "requires Installlation of untrusted packaages [08:12] oof [08:12] how many packages are there in ubuntu and what is a site that can tell me this number? [08:12] tyreza: Uh... I'd just open three terminals, run 'ping X' in one, 'ping y' in the second etc. [08:13] NoPasaran: So in ubuntu software center choose Settings>Repositories>Other Software, click on the add button and paste in that PPA [08:13] depends on how many programs u dled [08:13] MJBrune: Uh... a lot. Many thousand [08:13] MJBrune, !repos [08:13] robbiethe1st: I understand this, freebsd has 22k in ports and tells this. [08:13] noisewaterphd: OK [08:13] !repos [08:13] The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories [08:13] while updating my ubuntu 10.10 is Shows me error "requires Installlation of untrusted packaages [08:14] Seven_Six_Two: again i am looking for a number [08:14] Seven_Six_Two: none of these say a number. [08:14] MJBrune: Hm, let me check. apt may give that info [08:14] im haveing a minor problem with tor and need the right repos i think possibly anyone know the correct ones so it will recongize and find them when i go to update before the install? [08:15] robbiethe1st: probably wont [08:15] gaurav_help that probably means that you have installed packeges on your box that are not in the supported reposetories [08:15] MJBrune: Uh... why not? it has a cache file with the entire list [08:15] robbiethe1st: ok sorry, i meant it might but that wont help me if its not on a website. [08:15] I know you can't alter the size of the / partition without using a livecd, but if I have /home on another partition, can I unmount it to resize it, then remount it, I mean? [08:15] MJBrune: well, at least of all the ones in the repos you have enabled [08:16] MJBrune: Uh... why? [08:16] MJBrune: what are you trying to do? [08:16] robbiethe1st: creating a report. [08:16] robbiethe1st: i need hardcore statistics. [08:16] nunuyabiz, so what i do [08:16] MK that would depend on if you have free space eg. if you want to increase the size [08:17] !chm [08:17] hello [08:17] MJBrune: Well, cite it as being from apt in Ubuntu 10.10. Anyone who actually cares can look it up [08:17] i am confused [08:17] has any installed justlinux [08:18] that's not a good solution robbiethe1st [08:18] robbiethe1st: ok how many are there? [08:18] gaurav_help personally, I would just go ahead and upgrade because I am the one that installed any unsupported packages [08:18] robbiethe1st: thats a piss poor way to cite but meh im not a stickler [08:19] Hey all. I have a problem that i need some help with. We're moving from one ip to another and I need to update the MX record, doing this will give me some downtime because i have to wait for the thing to propagate and then swtich the hardware and software setup [08:19] is there a way i can setup the new MX record while keeping the old one so that the new one propagates and then i can switch the hardware and software setup quickly then i can delete the old record [08:20] According to "apt-cache search .+ | wc -l", I get 35013 [08:20] hi, today my eclipse plugin for c++ broke, anyone knows what could be wrong? [08:20] nunuyabiz, How i Install these unsupported packages === mgolisch_ is now known as mgolisch [08:21] MJBrune: So, incase you missed that - 35013 for my system with Universe/multiverse and some other bits enabled [08:22] robbiethe1st: :/ thats not accurate. [08:22] robbiethe1st: thanks anyways. [08:22] MJBrune, 32,218 for me. 10.10 with everything but sources enabled [08:23] gaurav_help are you updating from the update manager? When it give you an error, does it give you a "Details" button? [08:23] MJBrune: Uh... how is it not accurate? I mean... it's going to vary based on the version used, the repos enabled and such [08:23] MJBrune: Best you could get is a per-repo/version table... But even that's subject to change [08:24] nunuyabiz, yes its shows me [08:24] robbiethe1st: yeah your pull of wc -l could mean that the description took 2 lines or more [08:24] im haveing a problem finding the right source's for it could anyone help? [08:24] what are the details? post them in pastebin or tinyurl [08:25] MJBrune: Doesn't work that way. Pipe it through less witrh a wider console; they all are on one line excluding wordwrap [08:25] MJBrune: and it doesn't count that. [08:25] folorn, http://www.torproject.org/ [08:26] gaurav_help you need to run apt_get update in the terminal [08:26] folorn, tor has it's limitations in speed and privacy, read up on it. [08:26] robbiethe1st, that's what I would do too, but my synaptic says 32218 and your command counts 30469. I don't know why [08:27] Seven_Six_Two: Uh, it should. I've got different sources enabled. [08:27] nunuyabiz, then after running that in terminal what i will do [08:27] robbiethe1st, lol. I'm an idiot. I forgot I had ssh'd into my server :/ [08:27] Seven_Six_Two: Heh [08:27] hi. [08:28] guarav_help after you run apt_get update go to this website for instructions on how to get the missing keys [08:28] http://www.liberiangeek.net/2010/10/fix-requires-installation-untrusted-packages-error-ubuntu-10-10-maverick-meerkat/ [08:28] MK that would depend on if you have free space eg. if you want to increase the size [08:28] i know nitwit im on the torproject just haveing trouble with the sources. think u can help? [08:28] Yeah say I have [/] [space] [/home] and I want to expand /home into that space [08:28] can I do that without a livecd? [08:28] Can anyone help me with SSH tunneling? [08:28] I have a local admin user user1. I am trying to duplicate it by copying->chowning/chmodding files for user2. [08:29] I need to route my internet access on this PC through a remote server [08:29] when I am trying to pop up update manager, I am still being asked for password for user1. [08:29] MK`, I created a partition, and set it to mount at /home/username/storage === nuke is now known as Guest83256 [08:29] Why is it so, and how do I fix this ? [08:29] red: Easy. PM me [08:29] I plan migrating to nginx on my server. But before I'm going to install one, does ubuntu have a process manager that'd particularly let me provide multiple instances of nginx all with different configs? === Guest83256 is now known as nuke_ [08:29] MK`, so you don't have to resize your home in most cases [08:30] Whats the best graphics driver to use with ubuntu 10.10, i have a hd 5770 [08:30] Cheery: what do you mean by "provide" [08:30] (and different users) [08:30] Ok. I just wanted to know if what I said was possible [08:30] Hey guys.. I'd to install gnome3-session, but how can I make a backup of my entire system? This is my work computer and I can't take the risk of any problem.. I'd have a big problem if I can't login.. [08:31] sobersab1e: well I'll need one root nginx to proxy around things, and many user nginx to serve each site in it's own user space. [08:31] MK`, it's possible to resize. I wouldn't try it without a live cd, and I wouldn't do it if I had important data. If you got it wrong you can always start over,,, [08:31] sobersab1e: and I'd need to get them start up on boot [08:31] Cheery: I don't understand your sentences. I understand each word though. [08:32] Ok. It's a fresh install and /home is empty [08:32] right now it's on the same partition as / [08:32] rodhash, a live cd, and dd will give you a bit by bit image [08:32] sobersab1e: it's common that ppl don't understand me. but you understand this right? [08:32] the last sentence - I do understand. [08:32] rodhash, if you don't mind bash [08:32] and partially some of the previous ones. speak simply. makes it clearer. moment. [08:32] sobersab1e: 1. I need to define bunch of processes to start up at boot. [08:33] Seven_Six_Two: what do you mean? [08:33] sobersab1e: 2. I'd like to have a way to stop and restart them. [08:33] I'm back. [08:33] sobersabre: how to do those things? :) [08:33] Cheery: I don't think this is the right channel. [08:33] it's app-specific domain. [08:34] go to nginx related chan, IMHO. [08:34] ubuntu is a distribution, it has a process manager. [08:34] Cheery by "process manager" you mean an app to show you the processes running, etc. ? [08:35] rodhash, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dd_(Unix) [08:35] hey, i knwow this is a bad idea but need it for torubleshooting: can i get a python script to run with su permissions or the permissions of a particular user? [08:35] red, all your trafic? or just one port [08:35] sobersabre: nah. that'd be `top` - display linux tasks [08:35] Cheery: then wtf are you talking about... ? [08:35] what is "process" you're talking about ? [08:36] sobersabre: process manager is a program that starts and stops processes autonomously. [08:36] hi! the beep sound in my system suddenly changed to static sound. how can i change it? [08:36] like a buzz [08:37] sobersabre: process is an instance of program, executing the program in system memory. [08:38] its called "alert sound". it was "default" but now its an annoying buzz sound [08:38] does anyone know anything better than tor thats user friendly that accomplish's about the same thing [08:38] noisewaterphd: you are the demigod of the day, thanks for the help! [08:39] folorn, tried a shell? [08:39] that doesnt protect the browser? [08:40] how do you go under a proxy via ubuntu netbook remix [08:40] Cheery do you want to run something like apache virtual hosts in ngix? [08:41] Guys, what if I run 'dd' with the ubuntu running? Will it work? [08:41] nunuyabiz: well nginx does virtual hosts, but I need to protect the web apps from each other too. that's why I'll put them into their own user space each. [08:41] I guess I found what I need anyway though. [08:42] hi, how can i preload openoffice at startup, so its starts faster once i need it? and how can i preload the ubuntu main menu, so there is no delay clicking it the first time? === JimmyJ_ is now known as JimmyJ [08:42] rodhash, not a good idea on a mounted partition and open files. unmounted only, which means live. There are ways to backup without imaging. there are quite a few solutions listed in synaptic [08:42] you know much about that torproject theos? [08:43] Cheery doesn't apache do that? in other words it gives each virtual user its own configuration. [08:43] Seven_Six_Two: Ok, another question: I'm using LVM, can I back up only the system or should I back up the entire disk? [08:44] rodhash, I have never used lvm, so I will have to defer to someone who has. sorry. [08:44] nunuyabiz: yeah, and I've got apache running as well, but I'm bored to apache and the messy configs it has. [08:44] Cheery what solution did you find? [08:45] nunuyabiz: I guess I'll need to write a python script which I'll then position into /etc/init.d/ [08:45] nunuyabiz: not sure yet how I'll make it run at bootup [08:45] rodhash, a quick search reveals that dd isn't recommended with lvm, but a filesystem backup would be easiest. [08:50] :) [08:52] does /home contain anything aside from user-specific settings? [08:52] Like, if I installed a new version of ubuntu, would it touch /home at all? etc. [08:52] MK`: not only the user specific settings, but also their files. [08:52] yeah of course [08:53] depends on what your setup is. Is your /home directory on your root partition? Or did you place it on a seperate partition? [08:53] It's on the root partition right now, I am reading up how to move it to a separate partition [08:54] but once I do move it [08:54] hi guys [08:54] hi [08:54] best thing to do, in my opinion, is backup /home, install the new system with a /home partition, and copy them back :-P [08:54] does it exist a ubuntu news channel or something like that? [08:54] This is a brand new install of linux btw [08:55] MK`: maybe you can look at http://www.howtoforge.com/linux_resizing_ext3_partitions [08:55] if its ext3 ofc :-P [08:55] I am currently reading this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving [08:56] V3NOM: mayby google it: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ubuntu+news [08:56] hehe [08:56] thanks guy [08:58] I love ubuntu :-P [08:59] what is stored in gvf files? [08:59] and yeah it's great [09:01] how do I find out how much space is available on a usb disk from the CLI in ubntu 8.04 [09:01] jussi df [09:01] sudo fdisk -l [09:02] nunuyabiz: thank you :) [09:02] say, about the article I linked [09:02] should I login as root for that [09:02] or use any admin user [09:02] !sudo [09:02] sudo is a command to run command-line programs with superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (GNOME, Xfce), or !kdesudo (KDE). If you're unable to execute commands with sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo [09:02] ah, so just prefixing with sudo will do the same? [09:03] depends on the command [09:03] I thought it would limit it somehow heh [09:03] sudo does all root commands [09:03] gksudo for graphical apps [09:03] ok === oleg is now known as Guest69824 [09:04] bye bye [09:04] can I resize my root partition from either side using a livecd with no problems? === administrator is now known as Guest94759 [09:04] hey guys if i want to do a dist upgrade do I enter sudo apt-get dist-upgrade? or should i first do something with the sources.list file? eg edit it with the newdist. sources list? did a install last night off older cd, now just want to updrage. [09:04] yes. with gparted which is included [09:05] ok [09:05] but always backup before partitioning [09:05] is ubuntu rolling release? [09:06] How much space do I need for /, excluding /home? [09:06] rolling? [09:06] MJBrune: No its not, it has a 6 monthly release cycle [09:06] kleinlappies first do sudo apt_get update then do sudo apt_get upgrade [09:06] !partitioning [09:06] For help with partitioning a new install see: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/switching/installing-partitioning.html - For partitioning programs see !GParted, !QtParted (!Kubuntu 8.10 and lower) or !PartitionManager (!Kubuntu 9.04 and up) - Other partitioning topics include !fstab !home and !swap [09:07] DJones: yes but does it require a CD to install the next version? [09:07] oh cool so just the upgrade on need to edit the sources file? the system is up to date at the moment, thx [09:07] MJBrune: no [09:07] MJBrune: No you don't a cd to upgrade, you can upgrade automatically via the web [09:07] how can i make FTP server on my own laptop so i can login to it and manage users and such things ? [09:07] MJBrune: but you can upgrade via the alternative cd if necessary [09:07] MK you can easily get by with 5 or 6 gigs, but I use 10 [09:07] im using ubuntu 10.10 [09:07] to be safe === apt is now known as Guest86223 [09:08] hm [09:08] In case I need room to install lots of packages later [09:08] hello everybody [09:08] it's a 15GB drive, I figure I can use it for / and swap [09:08] nunuyabiz j ust the upgrade on need to edit the sources file? the system is up to date at the moment, thx [09:08] and have home elsewhere; it's 1.5GB === Guest76723 is now known as dhruvasagar [09:08] hey is there anyone who help me for project???? [09:09] Guest86223: what is it? [09:09] kleinlappies I don't think you need to edit sources file, they will import to the upgrad I'm pretty sure [09:09] phonex01: sounds like fun. apache makes i believe /var/www world wide accessable. can't imagine it would all that different than how 'it' handles it. as far as creating accounts i'd imagine that would be a system wide thing with permisions and such [09:10] nunuyabiz great thx gonna do that justnow. [09:10] phonex01: when you find out let me know :D [09:10] ruan: my project is to add a package to the kernel and than again recompile the kernel so that package shud get installed automatically along with the kernel.. [09:10] FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd, MuddleFTPd, wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: PureAdmin, GProftpd (for GNOME), KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP [09:10] https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/serverguide/C/ftp-server.html [09:10] !ftp [09:10] FTP clients: Nautilus (Places -> Connect to server), gFTP, FileZilla (for !GNOME); Konqueror, Kasablanca, KFTPGrabber (for !KDE); FireFTP (for Firefox); ftp, lftp (for !cli) - See also !FTPd [09:11] any utilities that are internal dictionaries??? meaning no connection needed to use them and are comprehensive? [09:12] hi! the system alert sound suddenly changed to static/buzz sound. how can i change it? [09:12] phonex01: ubottu will also tell you that !webmin is no longer supported or maintained or what have you but i used it before and it was kinda like operating a webcart with a backend and all that, user friendly though i know i will get flamed for recommending it to you :D [09:12] can I resize swap safely with gparted on a livecd as well? [09:12] theos: system > preferences > sound [09:12] MK`: i believe so, yes [09:12] ok [09:12] ruan, i tried that thanks. but it doesn no effect [09:13] theos: choose an alert sound? [09:13] <_-_Marek11_-_> Is that the first channel on that server? [09:15] ruan, yes i chose an alert sound but it doesnt get applied. i can hear it when i click on it like dog bark etc. but it doesnt get activated [09:15] Hi! [09:15] Will the new Gnome 3 work for ubuntu 10.10? [09:16] No [09:16] must be buggy [09:16] Hope somebody can help me too [09:16] LarsTO: you need to ask a question [09:17] ok [09:17] well ... start at the beginning [09:17] LarsTO: just summerise your question [09:17] it was a sunny day i walked around in the park garden. i thought and thought ...windows is expensive [09:17] ok well [09:17] thia channel is impossible to talk on [09:18] Vanquish349: what's up ? [09:18] haha [09:18] i want using Gnome 2 ! or at least gnome 3 but not unity [09:18] LarsTO, you can try the gnome shell for the time being [09:18] LarsTO: gnome 2 is available in ubuntu 8.04 to ubuntu 10.10 [09:18] in the next ubuntu editions... no possibility ?? only advice changing to xfce ? [09:19] oblem [09:19] LarsTO: use what ever desktop manager you like, all have pros/cons, gnome/kde/xfce/fluxbox etc, try them see what works for you [09:19] i want gnome [09:19] LarsTO, (will be buggy) sudo apt-get install gnome-shell , gnome-shell --replace [09:19] x11/keysym.h not found problem [09:19] LarsTO: ok, so then you are limited to ubuntu 8.04 to ubuntu 10.10 for gnome 2 [09:20] and ubuntu 11.04 [09:20] it is also gnome 2 [09:20] LarsTO: that is upgraded to a later version of the gnome base [09:20] but not ubuntu 11.10 [09:20] Are there any hotkeys like nano has ctrl+w to search through a manpage? [09:20] 11.10 doesn't exist yet [09:20] yes i know [09:20] but i read any articlesa [09:20] and firefox has ctrl+f etc. [09:21] x11/keysym not found [09:21] LarsTO: then it's wrong - as 11.10 doesn't exist so people don't know what's available in it === wizardken_ is now known as supraken [09:21] since /home is empty I am just going to reinstall. [09:21] mh [09:21] theos: click the round button next to the sound [09:22] MK`, you can try adding users and see before reinstalling. /home has users [09:22] see what? [09:22] ruan, which round button? to select the desired alert sound? i tried but it doesnt select it [09:22] I installed openjdk and 'idea' complains. it wants sun-jdk, how do I install sun-jdk [09:22] hello [09:23] hello [09:23] god damn't i love ubuntu [09:23] Karen_m: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre [09:23] hi guys...I'm getting a little worried about my machine. It's not a bad spec, but the screen is starting to lag when I drag windows around [09:23] x11/keysym.h not found problem [09:23] Karen_m: wait, jdk? [09:23] ALMOST like windows when there are no driver files installed? [09:23] Karen_m: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk [09:23] saini: what are you trying to do ? [09:24] x11/keysym.h header file not found [09:24] i have heard that chromium is a fast lightweight web browser but i just want to throw in the ring a good word for Mirdori [09:24] ruan, i do aptitude search sun and it doesn't come up,trying that [09:24] saini: what are you trying to do === P4R4N01D1 is now known as P4R4N01D [09:24] benzaldehyde: no-one is asking for browser opinions [09:24] E: Package 'sun-java6-jdk' has no installation candidate [09:24] x- windoes programming [09:24] Karen_m: the partner/multiverse repos must be enabled [09:25] ruan, oh.. have a guide? sorry lol [09:25] saini: ok, so you need to install the X11 development packages for the headers [09:25] Karen_m: go to software sources [09:25] ikonia: that's rude, you misspelled summarize unless however you are from the UK :D [09:25] Karen_m: in system > administration > software sources [09:25] tell me command [09:25] benzaldehyde: it's not rude, it's pointless you making random statements like that, and I am from the UK [09:25] benzaldehydy I might try Mirdori.... Firefox is such a hog, I'm getting tired of it and Chromium is a hog too [09:25] ikonia: do you use ubuntu 10.10 gnome ? :) [09:26] Karen_m: then check the multiverse option (fourth option) [09:26] LarsTO: it doesn't matter what I use [09:26] Guys regaring my concern in installing gnome3, if some incompatibility occurs among the gnome3 and any of the softwares from my company.. is there a way to go back to the previous state? [09:26] ok [09:26] I don't have Software sources under that, hrmm [09:26] rodhash: what pervious strate ? eg: gnome 2? [09:26] Hey guys, I would like to start using Linux... Could you maybe give me some more information? [09:26] ikonia: if one is to avoid making repititious statements about that which he seeks help for what other alternatives are there but to change the subject [09:26] ikonia: yes [09:26] Karen_m: enable it from Main menu in system > preferences [09:26] UbuntuUser: http://help.ubuntu.com is a good introduction to Ubuntu linux [09:26] Karen_m: or go to software sources from synaptic [09:27] UbuntuUser: as is http://www.ubuntu.com [09:27] rodhash: if there are no packages available for your distro, no [09:27] ikonia: what do you mean? [09:27] Hi , is there any way to specifiy which all applications to run after a machine boots up ?? ex - i want xchat to be launched on a restart ... any way to do that ? [09:27] rodhash: if canonical push out gnome3, but put gnome2 packages in the repos you can downgrade, if not, you're limited to gnome3 [09:27] Karen_m: or run gksudo software-properties-gtk [09:27] ikonia: so, can I back up the current packages installed and reinstall later in case of any issue occurs? [09:28] rodhash: what version of ubuntu are you using ? [09:28] rodhash I'm not gonna touch gnome 3 for a while. I'm sticking with LTS 10.4 [09:28] ikonia: 10.10 [09:28] command for install x11 package [09:28] saini: which x11 package? [09:28] rodhash: ok, so 10.10 uses gnome2, so there shouldn't be a problem [09:28] ruan, the weird thing is.. multiverse is selected [09:28] nunuyabiz: not a bad idea, LTS is released every two years? [09:29] X11/keysym.h not found problem [09:29] every three years [09:29] nunuyabiz: thank you [09:29] Karen_m: odd. what happens if you search it in synaptic? [09:29] ikonia: Ok, lets say the gnome3 doesn't work fine with the softwares from my company.. how would I go back to gnome2? [09:29] is there any one who can help me for my kernel recompilation project?????? [09:29] rodhash: on 10.10 ? [09:29] Guest86223: what's the question ? [09:29] ikonia: yes [09:29] rodhash: you won't have a problem with gnome3 as 10.10 uses gnome 2 [09:30] x11/keysym.h not found problem [09:30] ikonia: I hope so, but I'm using a lot of softwares from my company.. and I'm worried if any of them gets any incompatibility [09:30] saini: yes, and I've told you what to do [09:30] nunuyabiz: and now, i am gonna wiki search to prove you wrong, because, i have no wife, uh uh i mean life :D [09:31] rodhash: why ? 10.10 uses gnome2 NOT gnome3, so any problems with gnome3 won't affect 10.10 as it doesn't use gnome3 [09:31] command & process [09:31] benzaldehyde same difference [09:31] saini: what ? [09:32] nunuyabiz: my sentiments precisely [09:32] ikonia: Sorry let me explain, I know it uses gnome2 but I wanna upgrade to gnome3.. and my concern is if there's a way to go back in case of any issue.. [09:32] how i can install it [09:32] rodhash: remove the gnome3 packages, install the gnome2 ones [09:32] saini: open the package manager, browser for the X11-devel packages and install them [09:32] "browse" [09:32] ikonia: ok.. could you give me some tips on how to do that? [09:32] nunuyabiz: "It was decided that every fourth release, issued on a two-year basis, would receive long-term support (LTS)" -wiki [09:32] ruan, , OH I NEVER ENABLED THE KEY or something, it complained about the key === lolmatic1 is now known as lolmatic [09:33] i did this, hopefully it works : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu [09:33] Karen_m: ok [09:33] rodhash make a clone of your system before you install gnome 3 [09:33] rodhash: open the package manager, install gnome3 packages, if you don't like it, open the package manager, remove the gnome3 packages [09:33] Karen_m: also, sudo apt-get install restricted-extras [09:34] ruan, what is that? says "unable to locate package restricted-extras" [09:34] ikonia: i wanna add a vlc player along with kernel so that when i install the kernel than vlc player must also automatically install with it. [09:34] i finally have the sun version now!! [09:34] nunuyabiz: i had heard a rumor that it was supposed to be every three years but then moses dropped the third tablet :D [09:34] maybe now all my issues will go away [09:34] benzaldehyde I guess your right 8.04 10.04 [09:34] hi, can someone tell me what grub is [09:34] Karen_m: hmm, now i cant find it [09:34] Guest86223: that's not a good idea [09:34] ruan, what would it have done? i will search google :) [09:35] Guest86223: you can package it with ubuntu [09:35] Guest86223: plus, that's not kernel complilation, that's just creating a meta package [09:35] Guest86223: not sure about the kernel. [09:35] ikonia: but is there any chance to do it? [09:35] tanks [09:35] Is it possible for me to create a swap file to supplement an existing swap partition if I add more ram? [09:35] and have ubuntu use both [09:35] Karen_m: it would've installed sun java, adobe flash, and other stuff [09:35] ruan: how give me the appropriate way? [09:35] Guest86223: no, the kernel has no interest in vlc or awareness of it, you can however make a meta package === tim_ is now known as autotron [09:35] ruan, oh neat.. darn that package would have been nice.. [09:35] ikonia: How could I do that with apt-get or aptitude instead of the graphical package manager? [09:35] Guest86223: a meta package is just a package that installs multiple subpackages [09:35] ikonia: how i can make it [09:35] !restricted [09:35] For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats [09:36] meera grub is a boot loader [09:36] hmm [09:36] ok [09:36] ikonia: ok [09:36] nunuyabiz: I only just recently started to 'boon too' am i to understand that the previous mirrored the recent such as 10.04>10.10>11.04>11.10 therefore 11.10 ought to be the new LTS? [09:36] Guest86223: you need to read up on how to make ubuntu packages, however I would strongly advise you not to do this [09:36] !remaster [09:36] Interested in remastering the Ubuntu !live CD? See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization or use tools such as http://uck.sourceforge.net/ or http://linux.dell.com/wiki/index.php/DRU_Disc_Remastering_Utility [09:36] ruan, let me ask you this.. i have "openjdk-6-jre" installed, and i tried to remove it in favor of installing the sun version but my 'freemind' depends on it. Any idea how I do this? swap one with the other? [09:36] ikonia: tell me the way of making it [09:36] rodhash: same way as with the gui, add/remove the package names you want [09:36] Guest86223: it's quite complex, you need to research [09:36] Karen_m: you don't need to remove it before using sun java. [09:36] ikonia:y? wats d reason behind it for not doing it? [09:36] Karen_m: i'm running sun java and openjdk fine [09:37] benzaldehyde no 12.04 will be the next LTS [09:37] idea says openjdk is terrible, that's why I wanted to get rid of it. Ok i will install the sun version... [09:37] Karen_m: maybe it's ubuntu-restricted-extras [09:37] Guest86223: because they are not associated technologies, and the kernel packages should be updated by canonical, not you, which can cause a conflict [09:37] hi guys how can i increase my cpu usage for testing? [09:37] ikonia: so there none other way to add any of the package with the kernel [09:37] do I use that... update-alternatives --config java to enable sun over openjdk? [09:37] ikonia: look: [09:37] rodhash@rod-t400:~$ dpkg -l | grep gnome | wc -l [09:37] 111 [09:37] There're a lot of packages from gnome2 installed.. Should I install all of them again if I decide to go back to gnome2? [09:37] rodhash: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [09:37] rodhash: yes [09:38] nunuyabiz: seems inconsistant [09:38] rodhash: however there is a metapacakge called "ubuntu-desktop" which will install the ubuntu desktop, which includes gnome2 [09:38] Guest86223: you can add preinstalled packages with !remaster [09:38] !remaster | Guest86223 [09:38] Guest86223: Interested in remastering the Ubuntu !live CD? See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization or use tools such as http://uck.sourceforge.net/ or http://linux.dell.com/wiki/index.php/DRU_Disc_Remastering_Utility === autotron is now known as coder9 === coder9 is now known as coder8 [09:39] benzaldehyde nope 2 year..... like you said april of 2010 to april of 2012 [09:39] Karen_m: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java [09:39] Is it possible for me to create a swap file to supplement an existing swap partition if I add more ram, and have ubuntu use both? [09:39] where is package manager [09:39] ruan : u mean to say like redhat installation dvd we can cutomize the ubuntu cd with the packages [09:39] MK`: sure is [09:39] ok :) [09:39] saini: system->administrations->software [09:39] Guest86223: well, the link explains it [09:40] MK how much ram do you have now [09:40] ikonia: wow, that's big work to do then.. :) [09:40] 1.5GB on the PC I am working with [09:40] ikonia: 111 packages [09:40] the HD is only 15GB [09:40] ruan : ok thnx buddy [09:40] hi - is there anyone who has some trouble in using "man" ? actually my apt says i've already installed man-db but also i should install man-db to be able to call "man" ? whats wrong there? [09:40] MK ram is usually so big that swap is not necessarily needed these days === coder8 is now known as tangoIII [09:40] kth: check your dependancies [09:41] and, it's a business PC. No games more intensive than tetris, limited video [09:41] MK if you do a 2 GIb swap you're pretty much set for life [09:41] most intensive program on it is probably libreoffice === blueghost is now known as vegetableshoots [09:41] ruan: ? how should i do this? - executable "man" should be in "man-db" included or not? === vegetableshoots is now known as VegetableShoots [09:42] kth: it should [09:42] kth: type "whereis man" [09:42] nunuyabiz: i am often severely confused. however, April 28th marks my one year non-smoker anniversary. so it is kinda cool because as you may know all ready 11.04 goes 'stable' [09:42] kth are you saying that you do man commands and they don't work? [09:43] ruan: it gives me : man: /usr/src/blcr-0.8.2/man /usr/bin/man /usr/local/man /usr/share/man /usr/share/man/man7/man.7.gz /usr/share/man/man1/man.1.gz - yes [09:43] nunuyabiz: . . . goes stable on that day === tangoIII is now known as autotron [09:44] ruan: also the man-db version seems to be correct - dpkg -l man-db gives me "ii man-db 2.5.7-4" [09:44] benzaldehyde good thing it's not on April 1st [09:44] ruan: hey ruan is there any link which cud explain better that how to chnge the view and luk of ubuntu from each and every side [09:44] nunuyabiz: if it were that would be kinda cool, one of my grand fathers died or was born on that day, can't remember which [09:44] Guest86223: you can preinstall themes, or use kubuntu/lubuntu/xubuntu instead [09:45] ruan: no i wanna chnge it manually by just chnging the files,so is there any way [09:46] Guest86223: you can change the default themes or change default settings [09:46] ruan: ok so theres none othr way to chnge the luk and appearance [09:46] fola [09:47] hola [09:47] Guest86223: that's the limit of how you can really change themes. [09:47] Guest86223: you can change gnome's settings [09:48] how do I use ls to tell me the last few files modified in a directory tree? [09:48] or is there a better way than using ls? [09:48] Anyone know how well Gnome 3.0 works with oss? [09:49] ruan: also update the mandb by invoking "mandb" as root is possible it says that there are > 9k entries - but it seems that the binary of man isn't there? [09:52] ruan: i found the solution ... texlive has overwritten /usr/bin/man with a symbolic link oO [09:52] shomon maybe ls -time=word....... check out the man page [09:52] hello [09:52] how can I know in debian/postinst if it is an new install or an update of my .deb ? [09:52] nunuyabiz, hi, thanks - yeah I was trying to decipher that... [09:52] shomon or --sort=time [09:54] while I'm at it, ubuntu 10.10 isn't doing very nice cut and pastes. I like unix style, where it automagically copies anything I highlight, and pastes with a middle mouse click, but for some reason this isn't working since upgrading from 10.04 [09:55] now I have to ctrl-shift-v and menu->paste to do it... is there a setting to switch this behaviour? or is it per-app? [09:55] hello [09:55] hi [09:56] how do i manage ubuntu daemons, which is started via /etc/init/*.conf files ? [09:56] hi I want to link an html folder to apache /var/www. how can I do that? [09:56] shomon ls -ltr [09:57] thanks nunuyabiz that worked fine! [09:57] shomon you might be able to customize hotkeys the way you like it [09:59] cutout what do you mean link it. I think what you are asking is that you just need to put the html in /var/www [10:00] Hi, I want to install MySQL, but I get this error: [10:00] E: Unable to locate package mysql [10:00] hey i can`t install ubuntu from USB.. it says No DEFAULT or UI configuration directive found! ... and i have checked the MD5SUM and its the same..its OK..what`s the problem ? [10:00] !lamp [10:00] LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+) [10:01] Hey guys. Just booted up my ubuntu computer that's running 10.04. I'd like to update to 11.04. Is this possible through the update manager? I only get 10.10 as a option. [10:01] nyuszika7h what method are you using to install [10:01] nyuszika7h: try mysql-server [10:01] hello [10:01] should i install debian or ubuntu [10:02] LarsTo: it's a user decision, but ubuntu is best for beginners [10:02] hey i can`t install ubuntu from USB.. it says No DEFAULT or UI configuration directive found! ... and i have checked the MD5SUM and its the same..its OK..what`s the problem ? [10:02] ok [10:02] i am using linux since 3 years @ ruan ;) [10:02] koltroll you must update to 10.10 before you can update to 11.4 [10:03] LarsTo go to the debian chanel to ask that [10:03] !debian | LarsTo [10:03] LarsTo: Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/installation-guide/i386/what-is-debian.html - Remember, !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu! [10:03] nunuyabiz, hm ok. Then I haft to make a decision what's faster. Downloading 11.4 make a clean install or make upgrades in steps... =) Thanks [10:03] yep [10:06] shcherbak: r u still there? [10:07] this is like the calm after a storm [10:08] is there ny suport for linux mint? [10:08] biborn: I think mint support in is #linuxmint [10:08] !mint [10:08] Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org [10:09] while updating my system its shows me duplicate list entry [10:09] how i resolve this [10:10] not sure I understand duplicate list entry [10:10] It seems I've accidently deleted Windows instead of FreeDOS :/ [10:10] gaurav_help: check your sources.list(s) and remove the duplicate entry [10:10] On turning on my computer, I see Ubuntu, Ubuntu (recovery mode), two memtests and FreeDOS. [10:11] how i find the duplicate entry . and where is the list [10:11] llutz, help me [10:11] gaurav_help: /etc/apt [10:11] gaurav_help: /etc/apt/sources.list(.d/*) [10:11] hi all [10:12] nyuszika7h do you have a dual boot on your hard drive? [10:12] does anyone know how to change empathy shortcuts? [10:12] i know you can do it [10:13] by pressing some keys and editing the shortcut in the menu [10:13] just don't remember how [10:13] and google is not turning anything up [10:13] llutz, i cont't find any duplicate entry all list shows me first main then source code === VegetableShoots is now known as blueghost [10:15] llutz, i cont't find any duplicate entry [10:16] gaurav_help what are you using to look at the file? [10:16] bunty [10:16] gaurav_help: if apt-complains about it, theres one (most likely). look again, carefully [10:16] error comes to me "Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ maverick/partner i386 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_ubuntu_dists_maverick_partner_binary-i386_Packages" [10:16] hello === adnan is now known as rambo3 [10:17] is there anyone who is presently working for canonical? [10:17] bunty i have problem in installing canon mp250driver help me [10:17] please [10:17] gaurav_help: check also files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ directory not just /etc/apt/sources.list file [10:17] llutz, i list the error what i find and what i have 2 remove [10:17] Hey. My PDFs load unusually slow. Every time I scroll to a new page it takes 5 seconds to load. Using Okular. Anyone have any clue why this is? [10:18] gaurav_help i have problem installing canon mp250 [10:18] gaurav_help please help me [10:19] Moopz: could be memory, could be your graphics card [10:19] divya: did you enable your graphics driver? [10:19] divya, see my personal note [10:19] gaurav_help where [10:20] left side of ur pane of this xchat [10:20] see just below #ubuntu [10:20] Chr|s, I set Okular to aggressive memory usage, and I have 4GB ram so it's not that. I do use the proprietary FGLRX drivers for my ATI card though. [10:21] Moopz: it could be that [10:21] Moopz: did you set it to aggressive before or after this problem [10:21] Moopz: generating data "agressively" ahead of time, takes time [10:22] Hi i need an older version of wuftpd installed in my ubuntu system and I cant install it because the bison/yacc in the system seems incompatible. [10:22] Please have a look at this http://paste.pocoo.org/show/367070/ [10:22] Chr|s, I set it to aggressive to counter the problem but it doesn't work. [10:22] Moopz: you could also see if the same thing happens in evince [10:23] anyway i can get help with virtualbox? if not, can i be pointed to a place that will help me? [10:23] fisch246: #vbox, but fair warning, i do not know if its a user support channel personally [10:23] fisch246: depends a bit on the sort of problem you're having [10:23] ohsix, same happens in the default Document Viewer [10:24] Any hints on how i can install wuftpd 2.6.0 on my ubuntu 10.04? [10:24] Moopz: sounds like a challenge! :] [10:24] sipior: has to do with the screen running past the bottom of my monitor, when switching to fullscreen... [10:24] tester: you could of course build it yourself, bearing in mind the risks of running an older version of a network service. [10:25] Moopz: do you get a flurry of disk activity when this happens? [10:25] ohsix, checking 2 secs. [10:25] fisch246: the guest monitor resolution is the same as that of the host? [10:26] sipior: no it's smaller [10:26] sipior, yes i am aware of it and am trying to build it on my own. However the make fails. Please see http://paste.pocoo.org/show/367070/ [10:26] can someone tell me where to find the package automake1.8? [10:27] ohsix, no unusual disk activity, however it overtook one of my CPU threads entirely and used it 100%. [10:27] skpl: do you need 1.8 and 1.8 only? [10:27] !find automake [10:27] Found: automake, automake1.10, automake1.4, automake1.9, automake1.9-doc [10:27] tester: was there a configure line before that? [10:27] ohsix: yes [10:27] fisch246: what happens if they are set to be equal? [10:27] sipior, i just did a "./configure" === itheos is now known as theos [10:28] sipior: if it helps i'm testing arch... and using the command "vga=842" on a "1366x768" screen [10:28] tester: would be nice to see the output of that. [10:28] sure, one sec [10:29] Moopz: ok, can you install linux-tools; run sudo perf top in a terminal, then switch pages in the viewer & tell me the top few entries in the output of perf [10:29] sipior, http://paste.pocoo.org/show/367073/ [10:29] tester: could i also get you to pastebin the output of ./configure --help? === nyuszika7h is now known as [^_^] [10:30] sipior, sur === [^_^] is now known as nyuszika7h [10:30] sure* === kjs_ is now known as kjs === nyuszika7h is now known as \[^o === \[^o is now known as nyuszika7h [10:31] ohsix, System_call, copy_to_user, schedule [10:31] sipior, http://paste.pocoo.org/show/367075/ [10:32] Moopz: hm interesting; thanks [10:32] is the ubuntu 11.04 gonna have gnome 3? [10:32] kubanc: no [10:32] kubanc: no by default anyway [10:33] hi all [10:33] does anyoen know where to find the package automake1.8? [10:33] so i upgraded from 10.10 to 11 b and had huge problems , right now have no bars on top or side.. [10:33] skpl: look for a ppa [10:33] G00053: 11.04 uses no bars/panels afaik. ask in #ubuntu+1 [10:34] !11.04 > G00053 [10:34] G00053, please see my private message [10:34] erUSUL, thank you for you answer [10:34] ohsix, what also annoys me that even after loading a page, if you scroll away from it, its already thrown it out of memeory and have to reload it. [10:34] Hi, i'm looking for an rss reader... I want one i get let on my gnome desktop "like a widget" and with good looks... have you an idea? a google gadget? [10:34] hello [10:35] tester: nothing looks terribly out of the ordinary. you *might* consider modifying the makefile to remove the "-y" switch from bison. might be that the file is not compliant with the posix variant. [10:35] ruan: how do i do that? [10:35] Moopz: well i wouldn't say that; it sounds like the drawing part is the slow part [10:35] hello everybody [10:35] tester: best bet really is to contact the maintainers, although i suspect they'll just tell you to run the latest version :-) [10:35] ruan: would it hurt my installation to use a package from a previous version of ubuntu? [10:35] tester: mind if i ask why you need this specific version? [10:35] ah found the issue >.< [10:36] skpl: is 1.8 the latest? [10:36] (: I never knew gedit supported syntax highlighting... Nice! [10:36] skpl: it shouldn't hurt, but if you remove the latest you may have dependancy issues [10:36] nyuszika7h: i don't think you can call yourself an editor these days if you don't :-) [10:37] * erUSUL notepad FTW [10:37] THE VP8 and ogv. look bad, you can not encode better? [10:37] *it [10:38] Moopz: i'm thinking of a simple way to see what it is [10:39] nobody use a rss reader on the gnome desktop? [10:39] not me [10:39] lifrea is the one i've heard of t hough [10:39] I have one, but I don't use it. [10:39] xro: i use google reader in the browser [10:40] erUSUL, that is a good solution... but i would like to have it on the desktop... instead of that i miss a lot of them... [10:40] missing rss feeds is the best part if feeds [10:40] xro: lifearea? rssowl? research in the ubuntu software center [10:41] overwhelming yourself so you ignore triviality [10:41] ohsix, personally I have no clue what it could be. [10:41] Moopz: its probably the way its drawing [10:41] erUSUL, i saw thiese name.. but they are not integrate in the destop like a widget [10:41] is it just one file or all files? [10:42] Hi all is there a command like top for ifconfig [10:42] ? [10:42] ohsix, All files. Not sure how I can change the way it renders the files..? [10:43] hello [10:43] mithran1: ntop, if i understand your question correctly [10:43] Moopz: you can't, but you can report the bug [10:43] mithran1: you're looking for a top-like network usage application? [10:43] ohsix, but do we actually know what's causing it? [10:43] sssssssss [10:44] Moopz: i'm thinking of a way to check [10:44] anyone know how to solve this http://pastebin.com/HrG7BEKu ?? [10:45] seek: if you need help just ask :) [10:45] I usually set up an SSH tunnel by running "ssh -fN hostname" but for some reason it doesn't work if I add that command as a startup application. Does anyone know how I can do this? [10:45] Moopz: can you handle building a tool to record a drawing trace? [10:46] mithran1: yes one of the computers we use has mulitiple network interfaces, and I want to get an updating list of the transmitted and received packets [10:46] sorry sipior: i meant to send that to you [10:46] Strange question: the sole partition on this disk is /dev/sdb2. Is there any way for me to "rename" it to /dev/sdb1 without recreating the table? [10:46] mithran1, then you might wanna try Wireshark [10:47] ohsix, no. While I consider myself fairly competent, that's well out of my reach. [10:47] k, one moment [10:47] vadviktor: but its too complicated, b4 i know it i have tons of packages, i want to monitor something on a long term basis, not to isolate an issue and analyse [10:48] mithran1, i see [10:48] in specific i want to see the Tx and Rx of the interfaces [10:48] Hello! I have FreeDOS, Windows 7 and Ubuntu installed. On starting my computer, I can't select Win7. Could anyone help? [10:48] I installed Ubuntu after Win7. [10:48] MK sdb is usually a usb drive [10:48] it's a second harddrive [10:48] I want to rename it for ocd purposes [10:48] is this possible? [10:49] helo [10:49] hello, any good web app deployers here? [10:49] MK`: Obsessive Compulsive Disorder purposes? :D [10:49] bigMike: wrong channel [10:49] yes [10:49] mithran1, would you like to log that data or just monitor the changes on a display? [10:49] great [10:49] I want the first partition to be sdb1, not sdb2 :P [10:49] Moopz: ok, install cairo-perf-utils [10:49] MK it may be possible, but probably not a configuration that ubuntu supplies [10:49] what's the best approach to managing various apps, say most are based on ubuntu, mysql backed on each virtualised server [10:50] Its a multipath, so I want to see which path it is running on, for a given policy algorithm over time :) [10:50] but the apps are largely php driven joomla/drupal etc. [10:50] some rails apps too. Puppet or Landscape? [10:51] ohsix, do I need a special repo? It's not in my standard ones. [10:51] vadviktor: The policy determines which ethernet interfaces data runs on, i just want to see that policy in action... [10:51] Moopz: hm let me look [10:51] ^^---Nobody can answer my question? [10:51] MK you could probably switch the hard drive cables, or reset the master slave switches on the drives one or the other [10:51] nyuszika7h, what loader do you use? [10:52] Moopz: ok, easy way to install it, use software center; otherwise enable the universe archive in software properties [10:52] Moopz: GRUB === harry is now known as Guest40566 [10:53] No I mean... I have HDD /dev/sdb. I created 2 partitions on it, [/dev/sdb2][/dev/sdb1]. Then, I deleted /dev/sdb1, and merged it into /dev/sdb2. So now the only one has that name, and I want to rename it [10:53] It seems different than in older versions... it uses a console font. [10:53] mithran1, I don't think I can imagine right what you want, but I try to suggest one possibility: [10:53] Empathy 2.32.1 problem z połączeniem do serwera gg [10:54] How do I get color into ircii in ssh? [10:54] mithran1, I would use the watch command in combination of ifconfig and grep. watching the ifconfig data in some intervals and filter the lines with grep [10:54] problem z połączeniem do serwera gg moze ktos pomoze [10:54] MK`: that depends on the order of the partitions, if its not partition one i don't know theres a lot you can do besides break out a hex editor; you might get lucky if you read and rewrite the partitions with cfdisk or something [10:55] mithran1, specifically Tx and Rx, but I don't know how would I pipe the commands to filter that specific interface of yours [10:55] HfX: you install a script that does it, ircII doesn't do _anything_ by default [10:55] ohsix, can't find that software properties you're talking about. [10:55] it's the sole partition on the drive now, encompassing the entire thing [10:56] vadviktor: ok let me try that [10:56] Moopz: oh eh, it's software-properties-gtk, you can start it by itself or got to "software sources" somewhere in the synaptic menus [10:56] Moopz: So any ideas? === krabbe is now known as Krabbe [10:57] nyuszika7h, get StartUp-manager [10:58] Moopz: where can I get it? [10:58] ohsix, universe repo is enabled. [10:58] I'd need to hexedit the mbr? [10:58] nyuszika7h, sudo apt-get install startupmanager [10:59] MK this is probably the closest you can get to doing what you want to do, but it would be tricky to to this on bootup [10:59] I have a livecd I can use to do it [11:00] im running pinguyos and my desktop froze. i can still move my mouse around but nothing else. i can access a terminal through ctrl-alt-f1. my question is how can i restore or restart my desktop enviroment without losing the documents i was working on? [11:00] MK you need to know where the kernel assigns the devices on bootup [11:00] MK`: if you're really brave, just delete the partition, and then recreate it *with exactly the same boundaries* [11:01] MK`: it probably goes without saying that you'll want to check on the status of your backups, etc. [11:01] it's an extended partition. If I deleted it it'd probably still delete the logical paritions inside [11:01] MK`: if the boundaries of the new partition are identical, i don't see the problem. [11:01] MK do you want to save what is on the partition? [11:02] it's a fresh install of ubuntu, so, no [11:02] firefox runs slow on my laptop [11:03] just reinstall the more you do it the more you learn. if you do it again you will know ubuntu that much more [11:03] so if the entire drive were deleted I wouldn't lose anything. I just want to do something faster than reinstalling the OS [11:03] heh [11:03] well, I will learn by editing the MBR X) [11:03] hello [11:03] you are not going to find anything faster than reinstalling [11:03] and if that messes up the drive, I'll learn to/be too afraid to try that again [11:03] i'm new with ubuntu [11:03] heh [11:04] that will take you much longer [11:04] what can yu advice me for beginnig [11:04] hello. I added the text " noapic" to the file /etc/default/grub, in the line "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=". But, running update-grub, it says "noapic: not found". What to do? [11:04] anyone ?? [11:05] what is a good hex editor? ThePunisher join #ubuntu-beginner [11:05] or #ubuntu-beginners [11:05] one of those 2 [11:05] ThePunisher60: with what? [11:05] MK`: the hex editor was not a serious suggestion [11:05] haha [11:05] I just need to change a 2 to a 1 :P [11:05] thnx mk [11:05] MK`: why do you need it to be sdb1? you should be using uuids not bare devices [11:05] Hai, n00b here to make fun of. [11:06] benzaldehyde 'm using backtrack 4 [11:06] I have OCD :( [11:06] But seriously, I am a n00b when it comes to rebuilding packages and making programs from source. [11:06] ThePunisher60: oh I see, testing your network? [11:06] ThePunisher60: you'll have to go to their channel for support, it's not supported here [11:06] do a dd if /dev/zero of /dev/sda count???? bs??? and start over [11:06] ah ok [11:06] I was told in a readme to get a 32-bit file and have it blt for my 64-bit system. How can I rebuild it for 64-bit? [11:06] yes benza [11:07] I have a trust tablet, how do I get it working with Ubuntu? [11:07] built* [11:07] * tiox smacks his keyboard [11:07] would someone help me with my earlier ? [11:08] how can i restore or restart my desktop enviroment without losing the documents i was working on [11:08] ohsix, I think I'll just have to live with it for now. Thought there might have been a quick fix but doesn't seem like there is. [11:08] ohsix, thanks for your help. [11:08] can one revert to a base installation? [11:08] how cn i extract files n an encrypted rar file [11:08] I'll try repartitioning with the same boundaries. [11:08] ?? [11:08] MK do a dd if /dev/zero of /dev/sda count???? bs??? and start over..... that is soooo OCD!! [11:09] lol [11:09] Moopz: well using a different driver will probably sidestep the problrm [11:09] ThePunisher60: you could do all that in Ubuntu and i believe the alternate iso is a live cd, if i am not misstaken [11:09] ohsix, so I should try reinstalling my graphics driver? [11:09] Moopz: i was more interested in giving you info to file a bug about it, so it gets fixed [11:09] I have a laptop CQ42-170TX, I want to connect it with my external monitor BENQ 22". But in monitor resolution setting, the max res. is 1280x768 only, but my monitor can support 1920x1080 [11:09] if my ocd were bad enough I'd name the drive hdb since it's an IDE drive :P === h3r0 is now known as h3r0_ [11:09] How can I fix it? [11:09] Moopz: not reinstalling, using another one besides fglrx [11:09] artistik what program is your documents in? [11:10] ohsix, are there others? [11:10] well i instlled it on my hard disk [11:10] thank you- libre office [11:10] i'm no longer working with the live cd [11:10] hi friend i want to ask something... why my nagios server cannot send to our email? but it can send email alerts to gmail and yahoo? [11:10] edwinkcw: you need to add the mode manually because the monitors edid information is incomplete/incorrect [11:10] our company email [11:10] Is Firefox 4 available for Ubuntu? I tried to do "sudo apt-get install firefox", but it says firefox is already the latest version. [11:10] ThePunisher60: one OS is as good as any other [11:11] ohsix: may I know how can I add it? I didn't have much knowledge about this. [11:11] h3r0_: that probably depends on how your company email servers are setup, you'll need to ask them [11:11] hi guys, im trying to run make menuconfig but im getting errors: invalid for RAR_REGISTER and it says your display is too small to run Menuconfig how do i fix this [11:11] yes i know benza [11:11] nyuszika7h: http://askubuntu.com/questions/6339/how-do-i-install-firefox-4/6348#6348 take a peek [11:11] i just want to know how can i extract files from a rar encrypted archive [11:12] ThePunisher60: Install unrar? [11:12] oh... how can opmanager in windows can send to our company webmail [11:12] !ff4 | nyuszika7h [11:12] nyuszika7h: Firefox 4 is the current stable version of Firefox. Current versions of Ubuntu do not have it (see !latest), but there is an unofficial and unsupported PPA that you can use by running the following command: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install firefox [11:12] okay del_diablo [11:12] i find it in the package manager i guess ?? [11:12] ohsix, anyway, thanks for your help. [11:12] ThePunisher60: Yupp [11:12] okay [11:13] i have a terminal open by ctrl-alt-f1, just not sure how to restart or restore the desktop enviroment [11:13] edwinkcw: i can't walk you through it, but i can tell you you use "cvt" and xrandr --newmode and then --addmode with its output [11:13] artistik what program are the documents in that you want to save? [11:14] libreoffice === xiambax_ is now known as xiambax [11:14] ohsix: thanks, because in the old day, there is a x11.conf [11:14] yep [11:14] im having a hard time reading your name otherwise id type it [11:14] edwinkcw: are you using nvidias binary driver? [11:14] artistic if you shut down your box hard kill libreoffice will restore your documnets [11:15] ohsix: thank you for replying [11:15] ohsix: I am using Radeon propietary [11:15] erh [11:15] cv [11:15] what about sys-ctrl-alt-r-e-i-u-s-b [11:15] will that work [11:16] how to get gnome 3 ? [11:16] artistic try it [11:16] i dont want to lose all my homework though. will it save it? [11:16] Has anyone had any experience running two distributions sharing one home directory? I suspect configuration files will be a mess but it could work, right? [11:16] artistic I used to know a way, but it didn't always work anyways [11:16] artistik: does libreoffice save backups periodically? i think it does [11:16] achillion: it will work the more important issue is how grub will work, in that with ubuntu 10.10 or later, it won't work well [11:17] artistik libreoffice will definitely save it, and from now on......ALWAYS BACKUP [11:17] artistik: so if its been like 15 minutes you can just restart with shutdown -r now; then look for the backups [11:17] damn [11:17] I configured gparted to recreate the partitions exactly [11:17] ikonia: How would grub be affected? I'm on 10.04 currently; is there something special about grub on 10.10? [11:17] and when I ran the operation it did it the wrong way for some reason [11:17] artistik: you can look in the dir where your file is in the shell & check if theres a backup there to be safe [11:17] achillion I do it all the time [11:17] so I need to reinstall P [11:17] ThePunisher60: there are two unrar and unrar-free dunno which is pertinent, i suppose one could have both [11:17] achillion: yes, grub2 doesn't have it's config file in a shared location for the 2 distros [11:18] achillion: 10.04 will also be a problem [11:18] ThePunisher60: and package rar to create rar [11:18] nunuyabiz: good to know :) [11:18] okay [11:18] well i was just working on a document and the desktop just froze, so how could i save a backup of something i was working on [11:18] MK`: gparted does a lot more than edit partitions, that is almost secondary to the rest, i suggested cfdisk for a reason D: [11:18] but i didn't find any on package manager [11:18] Ah, i see [11:18] ThePunisher60: add some repositories to sources.list [11:19] well, there goes my entire ubuntu installation :P [11:19] ikonia: I'm sure there's a way around that. nunuyabiz: how do you handle grub? [11:19] but its been more than 15min so if it periodically saves its self then i should be alright [11:19] what ?? [11:19] how to get gnome 3 ? [11:19] MK`: but even then i didn't know if it would reorder them i was being dismissive and suggesting you merely ignore it D: [11:19] achillion try it, there is not [11:19] ThePunisher60: debian for sure, un# some of the restricted if there are resticated urls in the sources.list [11:19] can somone pls confirm if the us k42f-vx312v is fully support under 10.10 i am trying to establish this for a friend...Thx [11:19] ikonia I havn't done it with the latest grub [11:20] ThePunisher60: you should really go to the backtrack channel [11:20] nunuyabiz: I know, it won't work well [11:20] well benza i'm not very good with ubuntu so i don't really know that [11:20] ThePunisher60: whereis apt [11:20] edwinkcw: re: ati, i do not know if it does xrandr, if it doesn't you'll need to use xorg.conf or their control panel [11:20] ohsix i'm asking general ubuntu question [11:20] ThePunisher60: find it then scoot boot'n'boogie [11:21] guys, can you run AVG on ubuntu 10.10? [11:21] ohsix: from a shell how would i save a copy of what i was working on [11:21] ThePunisher60: backtrack is modified in a number of ways that the odds on asking a general question still has a bt perspective [11:21] well i'll drop it for the moment and after i'll llok for it again [11:21] mang0: you shouldn't need it [11:21] or is there another good free virus/malware moniter that you can use? [11:21] oh [11:21] thanx anyway benza [11:21] MK now you know.... you never suck sdb1 into sdb2 unless you'r okay with being stuck with sdb2 see you're learning [11:21] ikonia: why not? [11:22] artistik: basically, you can't; thats why i suggest you look and see if its doing periodic backups [11:22] mang0: virus' don't effect linux in the same way as windows, so most virus scanning is worthless [11:22] ThePunisher60: good luck to you [11:22] okay thanks [11:22] :) [11:22] ohsix can u give the bt4 channel link please [11:22] thnx benza [11:22] !backtrack [11:22] There are some Ubuntu derivatives that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux), Ultimate Edition [11:22] ThePunisher60: #bactrack-linux [11:22] #backtrack-linux [11:23] thnx ikonia [11:23] good bye all [11:23] Is anyone have a package of "matlab for linux "? [11:23] good luck [11:23] ohsix: oh in the logs? could you narrow my search down for me and give me a general area [11:23] thnx [11:23] yeah I am learning :D [11:23] ohsix it was a fresh installation, I had no files on it [11:24] sunriver, bc might help you ;) [11:24] oh ,thanks [11:25] theres got to be a simpiler way to refresh my desktop- something like metacity restore, but that didnt work [11:25] artistik when you are forced to hard kill your box and you restart it, you will appreciate libreoffice that much more when it restarts and asks you if you want to restore the documents that you neglected to back up. [11:25] Could somebody suggest me a nice program for reducing power compsumption? Like for downclocking the CPU? [11:26] how to get gnome 3 ? [11:26] I'm not trying to push you to hard kill your computer..... I'm just sayin [11:26] MK`: oh well, then the simple solution is to wipe it out [11:26] yeah [11:26] I deleted the disk, am starting over now [11:26] MK`: but its also prudent to start using uuids for volumes, as the names/numbers can be unstable berween boots [11:26] ok [11:27] artistik: look in the same directory where the original files, look for one named .bak or ~ [11:27] MK dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb count=1024 bs=???? [11:28] i don't know what dd does yet [11:29] artistic do you have access to a terminal? [11:29] !dd [11:29] MK you don't need to zero out the disk, it's just something that I like to do [11:30] <[deXter]> MK`: copy data from/to a device at a low level, bit by bit.. amongst lot of other things, in this case, dd can be used to wipe a drive [11:30] MK`: he's telling you of one way to clear the mbr [11:30] I nuked the disk before I installed Ubuntu [11:30] ah [11:30] ok [11:30] (and a little bit past the mbr) [11:31] is there a table of contents for the man pages? or a list of all the man pages internally in ubuntu? [11:31] hi there [11:31] supraken: not really, but you can search aming the installed ones on your computer with "apropos" [11:32] supraken: i think they're indexed in yelp too, or at least used to be :[ [11:32] MK nuked? are you talkin dban? [11:32] hi [11:32] how can i host my own irc server ? [11:33] Panthera you sure can [11:33] Panthera: install an ircd [11:33] nunuyabiz: "how" [11:33] ircd ? [11:34] some windows ap [11:34] irc daemon = irc server [11:34] Panthera: apt-cache search ircd [11:34] heh, I chose to not format, and it says "removing conflicting operating system files" [11:34] iostream run your own irc server [11:34] Tanks [11:34] so maybe some files survived [11:34] TANKS! [11:34] beware of the tanks! [11:34] I'm getting all crazy at the new menu - even tho I like it's look. Trying to move the icons around but 50% of the times it thinks I want to move the whole section of icons! [11:34] gahh ^^ [11:35] hi koltroll [11:35] ohsix: thanks and I fixed my problem [11:35] that's because the object is a group of icons [11:35] edwinkcw: good :] [11:35] i wonder where is position when use apt-get install a program [11:35] hi, in 10.04 is there a way to boot to command prompt? [11:35] Wow 1544 users online [11:35] this my first time on irc [11:35] MK yeah that removes all the addressing in the filesystem all the files are still there, but it's okay they will just be overwritten [11:35] in 10.10 [11:35] I've changed xinitrc and now I only get flickering [11:35] i wonder where is position when use apt-get install a program in 10.10 [11:36] ok [11:36] can't even ctrl+alt + Fkeys [11:36] iostream, heya! What do you use for coding ? [11:36] koltroll: nano, gedit [11:36] just keeps flicking back [11:36] iostream, ok :( [11:36] LeanoX: whereis [11:36] is there a way to boot to command prompt? [11:36] koltroll: why? [11:36] skiwithpete: press CTRL+ALT+F1 [11:36] hello [11:37] iostream, have done that - it just flicks back to failing workspace [11:37] can any one help to me recompile the kernel with a new package integrated in it [11:37] skiwithpete: wonky. [11:37] iostream:yes ,where is ? [11:37] eh? [11:37] LeanoX: no, whereis, it's acommand [11:37] i see i try [11:37] a command [11:37] iostream, can I get to command prompt via grub? [11:37] iostream, why what? why I ask? Cause I want a nice coding app. vim/emacs/nano is not an alternative. And even though gedit is nice and all, it's just a simple texteditor. And eclipse is too much. I wan something in between. Gonna have a look at bluefish and see what that's all about. [11:38] koltroll: gedit is not just a simple text editor [11:38] i know what I have to do, I just can't get to a prompt... [11:38] how do I go down a version from php 5.3.3 to 5.2.10 or whatever is newest? [11:38] play with the settings and you'll find a bunch of fancy stuff [11:38] on ubuntu 10.10? [11:39] iostream, like some plugins, themes and "show line number" ? :) [11:39] iostream:thanks for your support . [11:39] this disk is a nice testbed anyway. it has like 33 bad sectors so I don't even know how long it's going to last [11:39] bluefish is a good in betweeny one... :) [11:39] LeanoX: np [11:39] koltroll: you don't need any third party plugins, no [11:39] anyone? [11:39] koltroll: it's all in the software already [11:39] The mission right now is to get my pc keyboard to act like it's a mac keyboard. [11:40] lol [11:40] koltroll I use bluefish only..... I love it but it's a little more than just simple [11:40] need a prompt, x keeps flashing because of failed xinitrc [11:40] shomon: if you want a different version the only way i know of to do it is to purge the package and install the one you want manually [11:40] It's a pain working at a mac more or less all days and then switch back to a pc. So I'm thinking that if I can get the pc keyboard to act like a mac I'm all good. [11:40] that's not possible [11:41] install linux on your mac instead [11:41] it -kinda- works now. But the "apple-key" is on alt-gr. I would've preferred if I could get it on the windows-icon instead. That would be ace. [11:41] benzaldehyde, that's fine I found a tutorial on randyfay.com/node/63 [11:41] Well of course it is possible? It's linux is it not? [11:41] lots of drupal folks have the same problem in 10.10 apparently [11:41] here's how I'll solve it: I'll put a liveCD in and boot to that - then I'll change xinitrc - unless there's a way I can boot to prompt... [11:42] Right now I can do shift+altgr+8/9 to get {} [11:42] skiwithpete boot into recovery mode [11:42] If I could just map alt-gr to the windows-button I'd be allt good :) [11:42] how? [11:42] nunuyabiz, how - 10.04 [11:43] skiwithpete I don't remember but in previous versions you hit esc and you get the grub menu.... I'll google it just a moment [11:44] when a window gets above the menu the menu goes away. How do I get it back without removing the window, and how can I set it up so that it doesn't go away ? [11:45] does someone remember how to get to the grub menu in 10.04...... in previous versions it was hit the esc key [11:46] not anymore [11:46] nunuyabiz: Press & hold down left shift during boot [11:47] skiwithpete did you get that [11:47] Ubuntu installs by default an entry »gdm:x:119:« in /etc/group but without any operating system user. Why? [11:48] skiwithpete when you are in the grub menu, arrow down to the recovery mode and hit enter then make the proer selection. you may want to select drop down to root [11:48] yep, seems to have done it [11:48] bullgard4: files are owned by it, not having a user to access them is kind of beside the point [11:48] how do you rena? [11:48] sorry, how do you rename at prompt? [11:49] rename what? [11:49] how do I set up to build for another kind of lixux while running another like ubuntu?? [11:50] any tips or links would be helpful [11:50] txh google remix [11:51] search for remix? [11:51] yeah remix ubuntu or whatever distro you want to customize [11:52] skiwithpete: "mv" [11:52] remix ubuntu or remix debian or whatever [11:52] someone know when 11.04 will be out ? [11:52] !natty | Panthera [11:52] Panthera: Natty Narwhal is the codename for Ubuntu 11.04, due April 28 2011. Help and support (only) in #ubuntu+1. Natty is beta and is not intended for production systems. [11:52] Pnathera in 4-11 [11:52] Oh only in the 28 =\ [11:53] I think on the 28th [11:53] and say can i keep the Gnome ? [11:53] a [11:53] i dislike Unity [11:53] ohsix: You are writing a very complicated English. operating system groups are there to limit the access of files to certain operating system users, are they not? [11:53] thanks nunuyabiz and ohsix [11:53] Panthera it will be gnome 3 [11:53] Panthera: grievance noted [11:53] how the heck do I access settings for the menu ? [11:54] it will be Unity interface they say [11:54] i just hate it [11:54] bullgard4: users and groups, they are separate & you can have sgid executables like you can suid ones [11:54] Panthera: i meant to say, that's not really on topic, you could try #ubuntu-offtopic [11:56] Panthera unity will be default, but you can chose another [11:56] hi. [11:56] I have asked this before and don't remember getting an answer. [11:56] i know that i can change it [11:56] assuming I have user1 with admin rights. [11:56] I want to use that user's data/settings for another user. [11:56] and what about GNOME Shell ? [11:57] i will be able to use it ? [11:57] I copy /home/user1 to /home/user2, and then replace all the appearances of 'user1' to 'user2' [11:57] jhbuild build [11:57] er. [11:57] Panthera: For questions/queries about Natty, the best channel to ask is #ubuntu+1 which is its support channel until its released [11:57] still, when logged in as user2 and clicking update manager I am getting prompt for the password of user1. [11:57] yes I believe you will be able to use gnome shell [11:57] What do I need to change/update so I am asked for user2's password in that case ? [11:58] sobersabre: you have changed the owner and group for all files, yes? [11:58] yes. [11:58] ok tanks [11:58] beware of tanks [11:58] LjL: the problem I think is that some things not in the user1's dir are getting changed. or maybe there are some databases in user2's files that still contain user1 references. [11:59] sobersabre: well i don't know, but maybe it's something in gconf, so why don't you try grepping for the old user name in ~/.gconf [11:59] I hoped somebody could here point me out where EXCEPT .gconf I can find these references. [11:59] LjL: I did grep there... [12:00] I need a help [12:01] I want to change DNS [12:02] hey [12:02] anyone here know how to refresh the gsettings for unity panel? [12:02] trungtruc: are you on a client machine and you want to make sure it uses a different dns server ? [12:02] yes, i am [12:03] adalal: ask in #ubuntu+1 [12:03] I'm using Xubuntu server [12:03] ruan: thank... [12:04] In log file What is the log entry for deleting a file [12:08] I have removed or moved a file from original location.I want to recover it [12:08] i don't think file deletions are logged [12:09] LjL:I have removed or moved a file from original location.I want to recover it [12:09] can someone recommend a decent gaming mouse that works well in ubuntu ? [12:09] !recovere | cvam [12:09] !recover | cvam [12:09] cvam: Some tools to recover lost data are listed and explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery - Recovering deleted files on !ext3 filesystems can be virtually impossible, although methods that might work is some cases are described at at http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/undelete_ext3.html and http://projects.izzysoft.de/trac/ext3undel [12:09] if it was in a package you can search for it with dpkg -S, or have debsums check all package files [12:10] LjL:I'm not sure that I've deleted. May be I've moved another location [12:10] aruns: razer lachesis is my pet fav, i do not know about the status of tools to change the settings of the mice in linux though, i've never looked [12:11] cvam: well that's not logged either. if the actual file name hasn't changed, you can search for it using like "find / | grep filename" [12:11] Any idea how to use "ufw" firewall to redirect traffic from port 23 to port lets say 1000 [12:11] know your tools :S [12:11] i can only find manual for allow/deny rules [12:11] yang2: i think it is only allow/deny [12:11] <[4-tea-2]> Anyone else experiencing Liferea crashes (segfaults) on natty? [12:12] [4-tea-2]: you can ask in #ubuntu+1 [12:12] LjL:Thank you,I've tried find command wrongly [12:12] <[4-tea-2]> ruan: I was under the impression that natty was released? [12:12] yang2, did you try google? http://goo.gl/Thb16 [12:12] yang2: allow/deny/reject/log [12:12] !natty [12:12] Natty Narwhal is the codename for Ubuntu 11.04, due April 28 2011. Help and support (only) in #ubuntu+1. Natty is beta and is not intended for production systems. [12:13] [4-tea-2]: Not until 28th April, is just in beta until then [12:13] [4-tea-2]: yeah. april 28 [12:13] <[4-tea-2]> DJones, ruan: Ah, I see, thanks. [12:13] yang2: you can probably use fragments of manual iptables commands in a manner where they won't be clobbered [12:14] !dapper [12:14] Ubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) was the fourth release of Ubuntu. Desktop support ended on July 14th 2009, Server support will end in June 2011. See !upgrade for upgrade instructions [12:14] Hi all, how do i access a connection in the terminal which was connected from Places->Connect to server? [12:14] Memphizzz: ~/.gvfs [12:15] yang2: ooh theres a gem in the man page, check the man page for ufw-framework, it describes the hooks; ie. where you can put those custom commands [12:15] !oneiric [12:15] Ubuntu 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot) will be the fifteenth release of Ubuntu. Codename announcement here: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/?p=646 [12:15] jrib, thanks! [12:15] shall ubuntu go over to postgre as default DB? [12:16] PoNuts2: there is no default db [12:16] to test those certificates in linux [12:16] doh (exp. from homer simpsson) ;) [12:16] PoNuts2: and its down to what the package says it can use / suggests, not "ubuntu" [12:16] oh !sorry [12:16] ok [12:17] ohsix, thanks [12:18] How to set ip ubuntu [12:18] Hi, is it possible to override Ubuntu's titlebar with FF4's custom one? [12:19] dont know why but my screen flickers ?!? first time is doing this [12:19] what do you mean, title bar [12:19] jermy_: right-click the network icon in your taskbar and choose edit connections [12:19] how to install dns ubuntu ? [12:19] nyuszika7h: ff should be telling the wm it doesn't want decorations, something in about:config probably controls that [12:22] i did something and my text in eclipse got greyish background and everything in outline view has such diognal line over it. whats going on? http://postimage.org/image/1hf9myqn8/ [12:25] hello there [12:25] trungtruc: a dns server? [12:25] yes [12:26] i've got a problem with my package manager i think [12:26] anybody for help? [12:27] bilal03: i like help === anan is now known as andrej [12:27] bilal03: sometimes i --help the atm at the bank but it just hisses at me [12:27] hey [12:27] !details | bilal03 [12:27] bilal03: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..." [12:27] so Gnome 3 won't appear in Ubuntu? [12:27] i got this error when i want to install something via terminal [12:27] phoque_uni: no [12:28] is there a way to add another source to apt so I can install it myself? [12:28] bilal@gujjar-203:~$ sudo apt-get install docky [12:28] Reading package lists... Error! [12:28] E: Encountered a section with no Package: header [12:28] E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/ci.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_maverick_restricted_binary-i386_Packages [12:28] E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. [12:28] bilal03: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [12:28] bilal@gujjar-203:~$ ^C [12:28] phoque_uni: it may be a ppa with it in the future... ask in #ubuntu+1 [12:28] bilal03: dude pastebin [12:28] phoque_uni: I believe there is a ppa for it [12:29] Reading package lists... Error! [12:29] E: Encountered a section with no Package: header [12:29] E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/ci.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_maverick_restricted_binary-i386_Packages [12:29] ah, right [12:29] E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. [12:29] I read about PPAs somewhere [12:29] I'll try that, thanks [12:29] oh and Firefox 4? :-d [12:29] :-D [12:30] phoque_uni: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/04/gnome-3-released-to-be-available-for-ubuntu-11-04-via-ppa/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+d0od+(Omg!+Ubuntu!) [12:30] phoque_uni: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [12:30] !ff4 | phoque_uni [12:30] phoque_uni: Firefox 4 is the current stable version of Firefox. Current versions of Ubuntu do not have it (see !latest), but there is an unofficial and unsupported PPA that you can use by running the following command: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install firefox [12:30] !ff4 > phoque_uni [12:30] phoque_uni, please see my private message [12:30] the output of ls command contains "Find Command Tutorial" ,But rm command on this directory fails [12:30] erUSUL: Nice, I didn't know it supports pms. [12:30] s/it/the bot/ [12:30] cvam: rm -r is needed for dirs [12:30] cheers, DJones, nyuszika7h and erUSUL! [12:30] erUSUL:Thank s [12:31] !cli > cvam [12:31] cvam, please see my private message [12:31] bilal03: that is weird [12:31] !ff4 > nyuszika7h [12:31] nyuszika7h, please see my private message [12:31] cvam: no problem [12:31] 1 [12:31] 2 [12:31] 3 [12:31] 4 [12:31] 5 [12:31] [12:31] bilal03: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [12:32] bilal03: your partition might be filled [12:32] bilal03: one of them [12:33] i cannot access ubuntu software center as well [12:34] synaptic manager gives the same error while opening [12:34] hello [12:34] no,, there is a lot of space available [12:34] hmm... I've added ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable to my package sources but Synaptic won't show any packages from there [12:34] Hello :) [12:34] I have a question about unity. [12:34] hello [12:35] bilal03: try this 8 be carefull do nmot misspell ) « sudo cp -i /var/lib/dpkg/status-old /var/lib/dpkg/status » [12:35] !ask | r4y Barami [12:35] r4y Barami: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [12:35] how to install pyzmq-2.1.4 from launchpad.net? [12:35] In unity, How can i launch new window by left side bar ? [12:35] it asks about overwrite [12:35] bilal03: say yes [12:36] bilal03: then « sudo dpkg --configure -a » [12:36] it done [12:36] i made 1 files inactive somehow in eclipse, anyone knows how i can make it active again? [12:37] completed [12:37] bilal03: try this sudo cp /var/lib/apt/lists/* /home | sudo rm -vf /var/lib/apt/lists/* [12:37] ohsix: browser.tabs.drawInTitlebar is set to true [12:37] I am on a live disc of 10.04, I used Disk Utility to check this hard drive and it said it was clean but also says over on the right that Disk has a few bad sectors with a green dot next to it === Peer is now known as Guest21824 [12:38] No command 'try' found, did you mean: [12:38] Command 'tty' from package 'coreutils' (main) [12:38] Command 'tr' from package 'coreutils' (main) [12:38] Command 'trn' from package 'trn' (multiverse) [12:38] Command 'trn' from package 'trn4' (multiverse) [12:38] Command 'trs' from package 'konwert' (main) [12:38] bilal03: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [12:38] If Aleady running terminal, How can run a terminal twice by side bar? [12:38] what is wrong with him [12:39] Barami: try middle click on mouse [12:39] it do it [12:39] i do it [12:39] atlef, aleady clicked.. [12:40] bilal03, jesus, stop flooding! [12:40] but event not happened.. [12:40] I'm using 10.10 maverick with unity. [12:40] it is mutter based unity [12:41] 0.2.46 [12:43] hello [12:43] i have connected to my system using ssh. Now I have to copy a file from the client to the server to which i logged in. How can i do that? [12:43] i wanna know how run python cgi ? i have ubuntu gnome [12:44] chroot is it just to add an extra / in passwd? === Krabbe is now known as krabbe [12:45] if you mean chroot as command its something different than passwd file: http://linux.die.net/man/2/chroot [12:45] Hm... [12:46] Hi, does anyone know how I can manually get my Wireless driver in Ubuntu without having to go on the Internet? I've tried using ethernet but it won't work. (Ubuntu 11.04 Beta) [12:46] obscurant1st: sftp user@host <--- After that, it's very similar to FTP command syntax [12:46] I have a raid disk, and I am now in the live cd. How do I mount the disk? [12:46] rob_p, oh ok thanks! [12:47] jussi: with standard mount command, but you might need to get some raid-tools / drivers -- could you specify your problem? [12:47] In unity 0.2.46 (official package of maverick), Does not support launch program by middle click on icon? [12:47] hi evry one there [12:47] Hugo: Ether would be the simplest choise, any idea why it does not work? [12:48] susundberg: the raid drives didnt turn up in places, so Im wondering where to find them. they do appear in fdisk -l though. [12:48] obscurant1st: Perhaps I should clarify... start a new terminal session and do, "sftp user@host" and once logged in, you will have a prompt at which you can put, get, list, etc. Hope that helps. [12:48] Hugo: other options are to download the needed packages on other machine and transfer them via some other medium, like usb stick [12:48] susundberg: It worked before when I had a problem using the Internet on Ubuntu 10.10, I don't know why it doesn't seem to be working this time. [12:48] Is it possible with apt to download the .deb and all dependencies if possible? [12:48] susundberg: How would I go about downloading the packages onto my Windows partition? [12:49] I want to link a folder to apache server, how can I do that? [12:49] Hugo: did you tell it to issue an ip through dhclient [12:49] rob_p, the 1st reply was ok, i got it! :) thanks [12:49] obscurant1st: cool, just makin' sure... :) [12:49] jussi: 'mount /dev/my_raid_device_here /mnt/' should work [12:49] benzaldehyde: No, not that I know of. It picked up the cable but wouldn't let me use the internet? [12:49] can anyone help me plz? [12:49] rob_p, :) [12:49] (though i guess usually one wants to use /mnt/my_raid_id/) [12:50] susundberg: hrm, do I use the first raid device or the second? [12:50] Hugo: connect the modem to your computer sudo ifconfig eth0 up then sudo dhclient eth0 [12:50] You should mount _partitions_ not devices [12:50] like /dev/sda1 not /dev/sda [12:51] susundberg: unless the device has no partition & is a raw volume [12:51] Hugo: if it does not connect try a different ethernet cable [12:51] benzaldehyde: Thanks, I'll try that now although I will have to reboot, I may be back unless your solution fixes the problem, thanks! [12:51] anyone knows the solution to this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1712869 [12:51] ohsix: but surely you cannot mount raw volumes? [12:51] ! mount [12:51] mount is used to attach devices to directories. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount [12:51] html.setData(Constants.Elements.TYPE, Constants.Elements.COMBO_BOX); [12:51] I want to link a folder to apache server, how can I do that? === administrator is now known as Guest49207 [12:52] ikonia: you're my guy ! === Jeremy_Rist is now known as Rister [12:52] susundberg: sure; theres no distinction between a block device and how you mount it, partitions just let you slice it up [12:52] Fearless13: ? [12:52] ikonia: by downloading with apt, is it possible to get the .deb that it has downloaded? [12:52] susundberg: Is it going to break something if I mount the wrong one? [12:52] it sticks it in the apt cache folder, you can also dell apt to download and not install, so it just downloads the package [12:53] susundberg: you can have partitions on loob block devices too :] [12:53] :| [12:54] jussi: no it will not. but writing on the mounted directory disk will make changes to original disk [12:54] afaik mounting is safe -- though always backup your data [12:54] susundberg: or partitions in partitions, but linux won't number them automatically, point is storage is storage, partitioning lets you break it up into sections, lvm lets you resize & combine sections [12:54] hrm [12:54] susundberg: mounting is not safe if logs are replayed on mount [12:55] its giving me "mount: unkown filesystem type 'linux_raid_member'" [12:55] ohsix: couldn't one send the logs to /dev/null, 2>/dev/null ? [12:55] jussi: md or lvm is supposed to be putting those together for you, why aren't they assembling? === Andrew_ is now known as Guest78251 [12:56] ohsix: Ive no idea. Ive a broken system that I want to try repair from the live cd. but its a bit hard when the volumes dont mount. [12:56] jussi: this isn't a fake raid device is it [12:57] hey [12:57] jussi: mounting and assembly are separate phases, what kind of volume is it? [12:57] ikonia: its possible, Im not certain of the setup completely. is there a way to tell? [12:57] Insecticide: :) [12:58] wow a chat room that talks lol [12:58] jussi: sure, is this a true server platform or a "PC" / desktop platform ? [12:59] Im runnin ubuntu 10.04 how dose 10.10 compair ? [12:59] ikonia: its pc based methinks [12:59] Insecticide: you can run it from a livecd if you want to do comparisons [12:59] hi all, i'm trying to run add-apt-repository behind a proxy but it doesn't seem to work. i've added the http_proxy var to bashrc and configured the proxy in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/80proxy but still no joy. I saw some similar issues online with no solutions, does anyone have experience with this? === phoque_uni is now known as phoque [13:00] Insecticide: You are on a long-term support release [13:00] yeah i know but kinda wanted to get opions befor i burn a Iso [13:00] Insecticide: 10.10 is stable but not a LTS [13:00] opinions are fickle things === nyuszika7h is now known as iiiiiiiiiiiiiiii === iiiiiiiiiiiiiiii is now known as nyuszika7h [13:01] Insecticide: you can use usb-creator to put it on a usb drive too [13:04] test message [13:04] hello if i want to write anything in welcome message/ascii figure to openssh where can i do it then ? [13:04] arcsky: /etc/issue [13:06] arcsky: that reminds me i want to put a little ascii art into my boot sequence [13:06] :D [13:06] ohsix: doesnt work === squishy is now known as SquishyNotHere [13:07] arcsky: works for me [13:07] im lookin for better wine where do i go ? [13:07] Insecticide: a sommelier [13:08] hi guys, my 10.10 machine was working fine a few hours ago, then i let some packages update, now my pc won't boot. i get a purple 640x480 screen briefly, then, nothing. i don't even know where to start looking as to why this occured [13:08] i'm currently booted off a usb ubuntu 10.10 live usb stick that i used to install. any ideas where to start looking? [13:08] ohsix: I was thinking Norhtern CA [13:08] seravitae: sounds like grub got FUBAR [13:09] ohsix: nah im sure its getting past grub, the purple screen is def ubuntu loading, just before the 'good' framebuffer' loads [13:09] Does anyone know of Natty is gonna ship with gnome3? [13:09] good day all [13:09] but im happy to try anything. i need this box up really soon === Robert_ is now known as Guest33293 [13:10] seravitae: then boot it without "quiet splash" and read the boot messages [13:10] ok, ill try to do that - though, i dont get a grub menu so i'm not sure how to add the arguments [13:10] anyone at all? [13:10] Hello! i have an iPod Touch 2G, when i plug this on ubuntu 10.10 show this message: http://pastebin.com/5D1wiUa2 [13:10] it just loads instantly [13:10] na im talking wine for the os [13:10] Gent : Natty/11.04 is not yet released. Please join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion. [13:11] arcsky: http://patorjk.com/software/taag/ [13:11] I was messing around trying to useradd. When I log in to testuser I get: could not update ICEauthority file...then blank background. Can't remove user because tempuser is logged in. Anyone know how to log out user from virtual terminal or as sudo? [13:13] benzaldehyde: thanks [13:13] wwwd: you'll have to kill their session leader; but i think even if you do the greeter still says they are logged in (but if you try to log in as them it starts a new session) [13:13] /var/run/motd it was [13:13] any ideas? [13:13] nah doesnt work neither [13:13] i wanna ask somethin about gfortran [13:14] What is the session leader. I killed Gnu...Oh shit now I forgot what it was [13:14] /etc/motd , /var/run/motd /etc/issue /etc/issue.net [13:14] arcsky: well thats shown on login, but not exactly what you asked [13:14] doesnt work [13:14] works for me [13:15] can anyone name me a good video editor which is capable of .mkv? [13:15] I have a jfs raid6 volume , after a power failure it wont remount, I trying running repair and rebooting but it says the volume is missing, it seems to have no drives attached anymore when i look in diskutils, how to recover this ? [13:16] ohsix: gnome-terminal [13:17] wwwd: i'm thinking gnome-session [13:17] Is it possible to do top so that it only looks at a specific users PID's? [13:17] 1 [13:17] wwwd: you can use htop or ps to look at processes as a tree and find the session leader [13:18] wwwd: try pressing ? it tells you a buch of keys that do stuff [13:18] do i go to "expand array" and add the drives back there ? now it says partially assembled in diskutil [13:19] x404x: if it can't find the drives it is unwise to mess with it until it can [13:19] Hi [13:19] I just upgraded to 11.04 Beta, [13:19] and my trackpad no longer works [13:19] ! 11.04 | birdthief [13:19] birdthief: Natty Narwhal is the codename for Ubuntu 11.04, due April 28 2011. Help and support (only) in #ubuntu+1. Natty is beta and is not intended for production systems. [13:20] birdthief: for natty support please go to #ubuntu+1 [13:20] birdthief: congratulations! you're a beta tester! submit a bug report! [13:20] is there anyone [13:20] i wanna ask somethin about gfortran [13:21] Srebrenica: easiest if you ask your question directly [13:21] yes u right [13:22] how to fix a "partially assembled" jfs volume ? It seems to have dropped all the drives out, they show up but are not linked to the array and I cant find a way to add them back, also I cannot run repair again [13:23] x404x: does jfs do raid internally or is it mdadm/lvm? [13:23] mdadm [13:23] i dowload gfortran and trying to compile my program but it doesnt work though it work with windows compilers [13:24] hi folk! do you know if it is possible to install gnome 3 into ubuntu 11.04 beta? [13:24] Can anyone help me create a custom menu entry here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Custom%20Menu%20Entries, I am running 10.4. I was here yesterday and got help and wast told to do this but I am having some trouble. Can anyone help me with this process of creating an xp menu option [13:24] laura23_ : Natty/11.04 is not yet released. Please join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion. [13:24] help!? http://pastebin.com/vVJ077DU [13:24] * syn-ack trips Pici [13:24] x404x: well you can run mdadm from the console and ask it to be loud about what it discovers, might give you an idea about how to correct it [13:25] what happened to just looking and trying [13:25] Can anyone help me create a custom menu entry here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Custom%20Menu%20Entries, I am running 10.4. I was here yesterday and got help and wast told to do this but I am having some trouble. Can anyone help me with this process of creating an xp menu option [13:25] ohsix: I cilled session. Still tells me I'm loged in. Is it named session leader or session-leader? [13:25] Gucci: it should be done for you automatically, os-prober searches for you [13:26] ohsix: it cant find it but I have a windows partition [13:26] hm first i got bad superblock then i ran repair, it fixed it last time but now it remains "partially assembled" probably some kind of corruption due to power loss [13:26] Gucci: have you tried using os-prober? [13:26] ohsix: http://imagebin.org/146958 [13:26] is there a way to restore the jfs tables ? maybe i can add the drives manually in mdadm ? [13:26] Hello [13:26] ActionParsnip: http://imagebin.org/146958 [13:27] ActionParsnip: ive run update grub. But idk. How do I use os-prober? [13:27] ActionParsnip: updating grub didnt do anything [13:27] Gucci: sudo apt-get -y install os-prober; clear; sudo os-prober; sudo update-grub [13:27] Hello there. I have a problem that I am quite sure is x.org related. My mouse (and keyboard for that matter) seems to lock itself within the focused window, not being able to click anything outside of it. This would include the Gnome-bars, etc. I am using Ubuntu 10.10, Gnome (and Xfce4, it's the same there). I have tried different keyboards, different mice, the problem persists. Any ideas? (I have tried various fixes, but am willing t [13:27] o try again under guidance) [13:27] x404x: i have to admit it does not sound good [13:27] Gucci: if you just run update grub without doing anything extra, it will do nothing at all [13:28] x404x: as long as the volume headers aren't damaged it should be able to assemble [13:28] ActionParsnip: i will try this [13:28] Drengur: what software does it get stuck in? [13:29] x404x: what does mdadm -D report? [13:29] ActionParsnip: so whats the first thing i type into the terminal? [13:29] ohsix: All kinds, it does not really matter what software. Same for xfce4 as Gnome [13:29] ActionParsnip: sudo apt-get -y install os-prober? [13:29] ohsix: Killing gnome-key...seems to have done the trick. Thanks! [13:30] ActionParsnip: do i include the semicolons and all = sudo apt-get -y install os-prober; clear; sudo os-prober; sudo update-grub [13:30] Drengur: ok, no specific examples? whats happening is a grab and apps do them all the time, but they're supposed to let go [13:30] Gucci: its all ONE command, just seperated by semicolons, copy it as ONE command and paste to the terminal [13:30] wwwd: when all else fails kill random things :D [13:30] sipior it says device does not appear to be active [13:31] ActionParsnip: k, thanks. didnt know you could copy to terminal lol [13:31] os-prober should be there already, and you don't run it like that === xiambax__ is now known as xiambax [13:31] x404x: can you assemble with -A? [13:31] ohsix: I've lived with this since i installed 10.10. I am able to free the mouse by right clicking, bringing up the properties menu, and then clicking outside. The funny thing is that, for instance, if I click within Firefox, I only control the content of Firefox, not even the Title bar, I have to free myself yet again for that. [13:31] just got logged off on its own ?!? [13:31] ohsix: True enough. Any idea why I am not able to log into a new user once I create it? [13:31] what does -A do ? [13:31] ActionParsnip: k entered it. it asked for password and is progressing [13:31] Drengur: are you using compiz? [13:32] + something strange with display flickering [13:32] do i need to enter all the devices ? [13:32] ohsix: yes, but I have disabled all the bling [13:32] x404x: the software comes with a man page :-) ("Assemble") [13:32] wwwd: did you give them a home directory? [13:32] ActionParsnip: its done. Now what do I do? open the program or something? [13:32] Drengur: bling or not, theres a lot of plugins that do a lot of things, you might check there [13:32] Gucci: did you see windows mentioned? [13:32] ActionParsnip: nv looks like it found stuff not windows i think though [13:32] ActionParsnip: no [13:33] I had a few questions: (1) When I plug in a new USB audio device, is there a way to figure out what it gets assigned to in /dev? dmesg doesn't tell me. (2) Is there any codec for mencoder that can encode in real-time (1280x800x30fps, ideally, but I can cut back)? [13:33] ActionParsnip: Generating grub.cfg ... [13:33] Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-30-generic [13:33] Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-30-generic [13:33] Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-28-generic [13:33] Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-28-generic [13:33] Found memtest86+ image: /boot/memtest86+.bin [13:33] done [13:33] Gucci: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [13:33] Gucci: bah, that's all I know of grub, os-prober often just finds the other OSes [13:33] ohsix: should I install the advanced Compiz config-thing and play with that? (Does compiz run under xfce) [13:33] pmitros: sudo dmesg [13:33] back again , just logged off again ?!?! [13:33] on its own [13:33] ohsix: Yes. I used useradd -d /home/testuser -m testuser...then changed passwd [13:33] Drengur: yes, ccsm will help [13:34] i dowload gfortran and trying to compile my program but it doesnt work though it work with windows compilers,how can run it?? [13:34] ohsix: I will try it out. Thank you. [13:34] ActionParsnip: that sux for me then. The dude yesterday told me how to create custom menu entry for xp from this link .Cause I clearly have xp partition on here [13:34] mithran: See my question. dmesg doesn't tell me. It just says '[42375.484616] usbcore: registered new interface driver snd-usb-audio' [13:34] wwwd: dunno, did you try a terminal logon? i don't think -d actually creates the directory, just says where it is [13:34] ActionParsnip: heres a picture of my partitions http://imagebin.org/146958 [13:34] hm that seems to do it, now it comes up as running-idle and not mounted [13:34] and capacity is correct [13:35] x404x: huzzah [13:35] ohsix: I think -m creates the directory. [13:35] I'll check the man [13:35] Can anyone help? help me add windows? cause I clearly have the partition in DISK UTILITY http://imagebin.org/146958 [13:35] Srebrenica: do you have the libs required to compile it? [13:35] how to make disk util run as root so i can mount the drive ? [13:35] mithran: That surprised me, since it does for my webcam and my USB mass storage. [13:35] pmitros: ok I have no idea, normally dmesg always tells me [13:35] Gucci: I saw, it doesn't help me any as I am not good with grub. I single boot so have zero issues with grub [13:35] wwwd: you're right [13:35] ActionParsnip: dang [13:35] Anyone? [13:35] x404x: it should ask permission to do it when you try [13:36] hi, i want to plug off a hard drive, but i dont know which one i have to un-plug ... how do i know (for example) what hard drive is connected to /dev/sdb? [13:36] i think there is not [13:36] My partitions = http://imagebin.org/146958. My problem is windows is missing [13:36] but the partition is there [13:36] Gucci: if you mount the ntfs partition in ububtu do you see any files? [13:36] os-prober needs to see them to look [13:36] hi everyone dumb question but can any one tell me how to install custom mouse cursors some with the extention of .cur [13:36] anyone here from cannonical, that have access to the ubuntu site? http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/alternative-download this link has 10.04 lts i386 twice in the download links [13:37] some things can make ntfs-3g refuse to mount them [13:37] ohsix: could you tell me how to do that? [13:37] nope it just says it cannot mount unless its root, maybe coz i changed it to not ask for password all the time [13:37] x404x: maybe [13:37] ohsix: tried osprober already. DIdnt find windows [13:37] ill just try rebooting that should do it [13:37] ohsix: I can upload new picture with details on my ntfs windows partition === Peer is now known as Guest42005 [13:38] new picture will be clicked on ntfs partition details [13:38] x404x: if it doesn't assemble again it might be something weird === Pug is now known as Guest4224 [13:39] hey [13:39] is it normal that "preparing" dpkg takes ages? [13:39] yes [13:39] http://imagebin.org/147004 [13:39] HA! hal-device does it. [13:39] ohsix: http://imagebin.org/147004 [13:39] yes its not mounted [13:39] lolmatic: it depends on how many packages you have installed [13:40] ohsix: not many [13:40] dmesg doesn't, lsusb kinda does but not really, but hal-device tells me everything. [13:40] I g2g bight Ill be back in the afternoon. Can anyone possible find a solution and msg it to me [13:40] Gucci: that is not mounted [13:40] how do i use the ls command to sort files by date modified? [13:41] mithran: ls -lt [13:41] I am trying to list in order the most recent files that got copied into the directory [13:42] --sort=date [13:42] mithran: use ls -ltr to reverse the sort. [13:42] -R to reverse it [13:42] ohsix: -R is recursive [13:42] lawl, small r [13:42] right [13:42] trying to think which tool uses -R cuz it's not ls [13:43] Pici: thanks, works perfect [13:43] ls -r reverse -R recursive [13:43] hm it seems to have assembled and all the drives says "fully synced" but it still cannot mount, it says running idle. will running repair again help ? [13:44] x404x: after tring to mount it, what do you see in the output of dmesg? [13:46] x404x: what does mdadm -D report now? [13:46] since an ubuntu partial upgrade a few days ago i have intermittent sound it vlc, and choppy and intermittent sound when using WINE, are there any reports of this and how can i address the problem please? [13:47] dusf: is the cpu maxing out? [13:47] aeon-ltd: i have a monitor on my top panel, checking now but i don't think so... [13:47] i get a lot of error connecting to socket 101 [13:48] aeon-ltd: no it is not, and no sound at all in vlc at the moment, before now would work on first opening but stop halfway through, or if i skipped through a video [13:49] has anyone ever tried to install Gemplus GemPC Key SmartCard Reader [13:49] mdadm says state is clean and superblock persitant, mount tells me superblock is bad or other error [13:49] Hi, I have a 1TB HDD formatted as 100GB ext3, 4GB swap, remaining XFS. The swap and XFS parts are completely empty. Would anyone know what would be the quickest way to clone this drive ? (e.g. faster than just dd, seeing as most of it is just empty anyway) [13:51] Frans-Willem: use a livecd (clonezilla) to just copy the 100gb then use gparted to rebuild the other partitions? [13:51] does it suggest a problem if update manager tells me "Your system is up-to-date. The package information was last updated 84 days ago"? [13:52] Frans-Willem: partimage is an option, or fsarchiver. [13:52] dusf, not necessarily. Which version of Ubuntu are you running? [13:52] hello [13:52] * Boothk waves a giant foam hand [13:53] any Chinaese? [13:53] !cn [13:53] For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道：打字 /join #ubuntu-cn 或者 打字 /join #ubuntu-tw 或者 打字 /join #ubuntu-hk [13:53] shineliqiang, in #ubuntu-cn [13:53] bazhang ??/ [13:53] syn-ack: 10.10 [13:53] Hi All! My digital camera allows me to attach a title to a picture. However neither f-spot nor kphotoalbum shows the title in the properties. Is there a photo manager that might? The camera is a Panasonic Lumix DMC-ZS7. [13:53] shineliqiang, /join #ubuntu-cn [13:53] 其实我想问谁说汉语的 [13:54] shineliqiang, here is english; #ubuntu-cn for Chinese [13:54] lol [13:54] oh no [13:55] dsnyders: Perhaps its part of the file information? [13:55] all of you say English? [13:55] dusf, That could suggest an issue... Which servers is it trying to use? Can you tell? [13:55] Is there a current gnome3 PPA for maverick? [13:55] syn-ack: can you tell me how to tell please? :) [13:55] shineliqiang, yes, that's what what we all say. [13:55] dsnyders, you could use exiv2 or another exif reader to find out in which exiv tag the information is stored [13:55] how do i install drivers for usb smart card reader? [13:56] oh...where are you from? [13:56] ferengee, exiv2? I'll give it a try. [13:56] What does that matter? You saw what the man said, shineliqiang. [13:56] America or England? [13:56] Question about shell scripting - if I run a predefined command in my script, is it possible to also automate the parts which require confirmation? (i.e adduser student creates a student but it also asks for details and such) [13:56] dsnyders, you could than either rename the file using the exif tag or write the info to another exif tag that might be supported in your favorite photo manager [13:57] syn-ack I don't know what you mean. [13:57] Boothk: for scripting use you may want to use useradd instead of adduser but be carefull === kaos77 is now known as Guest34580 [13:58] I want to know what should we do here? [13:58] ask question or just for chating? [13:58] shineliqiang ask question about ubuntu [13:58] why all drummers are retarded? [13:58] ferengee, I suppose that might be an option. Is there a list somewhere showing which photo manager handles which tags? [13:59] shineliqiang: This is the official support channel for ubuntu. [13:59] !ot | dyd [13:59] dyd: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! [13:59] oh...I think I'm wrong ,bye [13:59] mkay :) [13:59] dsnyders, not that i know of, and i don't use any standard photomanager myself [13:59] i cant see videos in ubuntu [13:59] erUSUL: It's not limited to adduser though.. I also have apt-gets (remove, update, dist-upgrade and install) as well. Most of the commands I use require Y/N answers [13:59] how do i knos more about USB devices, i know that lsusb exsists, but i would like to know more then thar [13:59] i cant see videos in youtube and all videos [14:00] Is there a current gnome3 PPA for maverick? [14:01] mAritz: check launchpad? [14:01] mAritz, do these http://pastebin.com/Kcx5EwwU [14:01] Boothk: apt-get has -y option and other commands may have similar options [14:01] erUSUL: I'm just trying to automate my script (which finally works), so that I can be doing other things while it works away [14:01] hello, what does this mean please? http://pastebin.com/SVnHWyEn [14:01] i cant see videos in youtube and all videos?? [14:01] erUSUL: Really? I didn't notice [14:01] jwtiyar: awesome, thanks :) [14:02] Boothk: take a look at expect? but usually is better if the tool itself has options to suppress user interaction [14:02] Boothk: -y, --yes, --assume-yes --> Automatic yes to prompts; assume "yes" as answer to all prompts and run non-interactively. [14:02] jwtiyar: waaait a second. that would install 2.28 [14:02] has anyone experienced gnome3???? [14:03] syn-ack: can you tell me how to tell please? :) [14:03] mAritz, iam using it now just gnome-shell realeased its not stable release yet [14:03] mAritz, just to be sure,, you wont be able to run compiz with that ,, you know this ,, yes? === xiambax_ is now known as xiambax [14:03] coz_: i'm not running compiz right now eiter ;D [14:03] mAritz, ah ok [14:04] hi all, need some help [14:04] erUSUL: Alright, that pretty much answers my question. Thanks :D === Guest34580 is now known as kaos77 [14:04] Boothk: no problem [14:04] mAritz, well justin case you still want it https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3 [14:05] any reference to downgrade 64bit ubuntu 10.04 to ubuntu 32bit 10.04 ? [14:05] tr4nsltr: you can't [14:05] tr4nsltr, full reinstall [14:05] coz_: afaict that's just natty. :( [14:05] syn-ack: it appears pulseaudio is the culprit and was reinstalled with the partial upgrade [14:05] when will the ubuntu software compilers learn? [14:05] pulseaudio doesn't work. [14:05] mAritz, ah sorry,, i thought i was on natty channel [14:06] it works for most people. dusf . quoting « anecdotal evidence ( yours ) is not evidence at all » [14:06] i cant play videosss [14:06] tr4nsltr: Download 32bit and install it [14:06] how do i see which USB device i have plug-ed in. i would like to see the model of the device [14:06] jwandbor1: why not? [14:06] any one experienced gnome3 on ubuntu???????? [14:06] kubanc: lsusb [14:06] erUSUL: i never said it was evidence [14:06] kubanc: lsusb [14:06] jwtiyar: what type of videos? [14:07] jingqq5210, personally I dont like it but you will have to try it to see [14:07] pulseaudio continue to use standards other developers will not [14:07] lsusb only gives me Gemplus GemPC Key SmartCard Reader. [14:07] jwtiyar: How are you trying to play videos? [14:07] the package is a joke [14:07] ruan, all videos from youtube and other websites [14:07] i've successfully upgrade 32 to 64, why can't othervwise? [14:07] jwtiyar: install flash [14:07] but now, i need driver for this device, but i do not know which model it is [14:07] dusf: well you have to backup an absolute bold calim such as « pulseaudio doesn't work. » with some evidence; don't you ? [14:07] ruan, also i have flash [14:07] erUSUL: aren't you a regular in ubuntu's support channel? [14:07] kubanc: What makes you think the driver isnt already installed and working? [14:07] test message [14:07] dusf: yes [14:08] :) [14:08] tr4nsltr, either requires a full reinstall [14:08] jwtiyar: apt:adobe-flashplugin?channel=$distro-partner [14:08] jwtiyar: enter that into your browser [14:08] soreau, because i cannot see USB key in nautilus and also on virtual machine in Windows XP system... [14:09] hey all got a current problem, could someone explain to me what gdm does [14:09] kubanc: After plugging in the usb key, what does dmesg have to say about it? [14:09] shadowmancer: gdm is gnome desktop manager [14:09] soreau, [43349.825135] usb 3-1: USB disconnect, address 4 [14:09] [43353.930769] usb 3-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 5 [14:09] Hey guys! I'm thinking about formatting my C drive and Installing Ubuntu (I already have a LiveCD, windows is playing up). If I put some files like videos etc onto my D drive, will I be able to acces them in Ubuntu after formatting C? [14:09] !info gdm | shadowmancer [14:09] dusf: if you research a nations health by going to a hospital you will inmadiently conclude that everyone in that nation is ill. so no what we see in this channel is not evidence either :) [14:09] shadowmancer: gdm (source: gdm): GNOME Display Manager. In component main, is optional. Version 2.30.5-0ubuntu4.1 (maverick), package size 723 kB, installed size 2304 kB [14:09] ok so it handles that side bar, and all that? right [14:09] shadowmancer: Its your login screen [14:09] mang0: yes [14:09] ok [14:10] awesome [14:10] kubanc: Does it tell you a node name such as /dev/sdc1 ? [14:10] so somehow every so often my side bars and everything except my windows disapear [14:10] mang0: yes you can access NTFS partitions in ubuntu [14:10] I have two HDs [14:10] if i do sudo service gdm restart it fixes it but at the cost of losing everything and i have reopen everything [14:10] soreau, NO [14:11] so i just wanna be able to get info off D when I wipe C and install ubuntu on it [14:12] erUSUL: i will defer to you as i see you in here a lot helping others, i just know it's caused me a lot of problems and when trying to fix my own came across a lot of others with similar difficulties. when i took it to alsa and wine devs they said the issue was with pulse audio refusing to develop in an interoparable way, and that removing it has once again solved my problems :) [14:12] mang0: you might have to mount it first [14:12] and I can run .exes with WINE can't I? Just I'm an animator, I use flash 8 (exe) so if i copied the program files folder onto D, could i then run it in WINE? [14:12] mang0: but yes, it will work === krabbe is now known as Krabbe [14:12] mang0: The drive will be labeled differently, instead of D it would be /dev/sdb1 or so but it works the same [14:12] k [14:12] d [14:13] Have a problem with my xubuntu session [14:13] dusf: haha who told you that? [14:13] I got kicked out right after login [14:13] ruan: what do you mean i might have to mount it? [14:13] dusf: the person you heard that from would rather it didn't exist, as it only causes problems for them; remember that [14:13] any body know any zombie games for linux ? [14:13] And I keep getting log out [14:14] Insecticide: use WINE? [14:14] Hey folks [14:14] !mount [14:14] mount is used to attach devices to directories. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount [14:14] god that bot knows everything [14:14] hmmm so is there anyways of reseting gdm without losing everything [14:14] yeah [14:14] ferengee, I think I may have found it. Exiv2 doesn't interpret it though. It's just a hex dump. [14:14] No just open sorce [14:14] dusf: it's a red herring, people that actually work with pulse have commit access and there is no trouble upstream [14:15] test message [14:15] ruan,doesnt work [14:15] any one have try gnome3 in ubuntu 10.4,I want to try ,but i don't know what to do ! who can give some tips!? [14:16] jwtiyar: does it work in chromium? [14:16] whats the window manager for ubuntu now [14:16] !gnome [14:16] GNOME is the default !desktop environment on Ubuntu. To install it from Kubuntu or Xubuntu, type « sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop » in a !terminal. [14:16] ruan, wait a second [14:16] e [14:16] kako e [14:16] i asked window manager [14:16] soreau, i'll try to install libccid package, which holds drivers for smart card readers... === Peer is now known as Guest90116 [14:17] ruan,no [14:17] i thought their different to the desktop environment [14:17] oshix: someone from wine, it was some time ago now. every upgrade i have to remove pulse because it breaks my sound, insofar as not letting sound run in more than one program etc, or as described intermittent/no/choppy sound even when only one program is using it [14:17] with it removed everythign works fine? [14:17] shadowmancer, X [14:17] kubanc: Is it a newer card reader? [14:17] dusf: ah wine; yes, they don't have many people working on their sound driver plugins, that's a wine problem [14:17] shadowmancer, were you looking for x11, xorg... that kind of thing? [14:18] shadowmancer: The default wm in ubuntu is compiz, unless there is some problem in which case it falls back to metacity which is the default wm for gnome [14:18] hi, i did run update for all my software and now the installer hangs at "preparing dpkg" since one hour. what can i do? [14:19] soreau: thanks [14:19] dusf: you should use pasuspender with wine, then it will get out of the way; some day wine will have someone that can actually write a proper audio program work on fixing the drivers, i respect the work that they do but i've had discussions with all of them and they don't even understand the problem domain [14:19] even the cancel button is greyed out [14:19] :( [14:19] ruan, what i have to do? i think after upgrading this error appeared [14:19] banxi1988: read here http://blogs.gnome.org/rodrigo/2011/03/03/gnome3-on-ubuntu/ [14:20] ohsix: i see [14:20] hey [14:20] Hi [14:20] I need help [14:20] someone can help to install the terratec driver for ubuntu [14:20] i ve got following source [14:20] http://linux.terratec.de/tv_en.html [14:20] soreau: what controls the side bar which is loaded by default with ubuntu (or atleast the netbook remix) [14:20] is there any expert on irssi here? [14:21] just ask your question [14:21] I have multiple monitors -- is there any way to enable the rotation of the monitors (separately)? [14:21] the only information i get of that site is this: Included in v4l-dvb repositery: ttp://www.linuxtv.org [14:21] do i have add that url now in my repository file? [14:21] and that apt-get install terratec t5 ? [14:21] !enter [14:21] because terratec t5 is my device [14:21] :)) [14:21] suave____: Probably, but #irssi is probably the best place to ask. [14:21] I messed up my irssi setting, i would like to reset the settings [14:21] Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation! [14:22] ahh i think not many people are only because the time in USA is different thatn to europe hehe [14:22] Pici, thanks [14:22] pici you know some stuff? [14:22] maybe you can help me haha [14:22] esing123: I know you're pressing enter way too much. Try to keep your questions on one line. [14:22] shadowmancer: I am not familiar with netbook remix [14:22] pici should I rephrase ? [14:22] >.< [14:22] shadowmancer: In standard ubuntu, there is no side bar (at least, releases prior to natty) [14:23] esing123: Sure. [14:23] suave____: try deleting your ./irssi folder and restart irssi [14:23] please peoplee [14:23] lolmatic, have you enabled all relavent repos in the package manager including canonical partners, if so then run , sudo dpkg --configure -a , in a terminal , then try updating again [14:23] atlef, thanks I'll try that [14:24] Little help here... I have a problem with my xubuntu session... [14:24] okay. I want to install my dvb-t tunner called " terratec T5" on my linux mashine. I found website called : http://linux.terratec.de/tv_en.html which offers those drivers. But i dont understand how can i install those on my ubuntu. do i have to put the www.linuxtv.org into my repository file and then install through apt-get install? [14:24] I am logged off inmediatly after login [14:25] Gibarian: #xubuntu [14:25] BluesKaj: hi, well i dont have canonical partners enabled. but all the other ones are enabled === Maraket is now known as Shadowmancer [14:25] what is that bar on the desktop of ubuntu, its on the pictures of 11.04 [14:25] hi [14:25] its on the left side fo th [14:25] nvm [14:26] anyone here? [14:26] of the screen* [14:26] Shadowmancer: that is the Unity launcher [14:26] can someone tell me how I remove the prev ver. of glib i.e. glib-2.0 from my ststem? [14:27] debd: don't do that [14:27] SirDeiu: excellent, now i know what to restart when i crashes when i close a program [14:27] debd: why would you want to do that? [14:27] debd: where has the "new" version come from ? [14:27] but to compile gtk it asks for glib 2.27.3 [14:27] gtk2+ [14:27] BluesKaj: which process do i have to kill to stop the update? [14:28] debd: why do you need to compile gtk? [14:28] ftp://ftp.gtk.org/pub/glib/2.27/ [14:28] debd: are you aware how much this will probably break your system ? [14:28] cause I cant get abiword to compile and work properly [14:28] why ar eyou compiling abiword [14:28] these are packages that are all in the repo [14:28] trying [14:28] I know [14:29] debd: ok, so why are you doing it ? [14:29] Ijst wanted to compile abi from source [14:29] Hello [14:29] I hot all the dep.s [14:29] What's a good IRC client? [14:29] Xchat [14:30] debd: why ? [14:30] I got all the dep.s for compiling aby [14:30] Hi, Any idea why I have a lot of /usr/sbin/console-kit-daemon when I did htop? [14:30] abi [14:30] debd: why are you doing this, you are putting yourself in a position to break your system [14:30] what does this thing do [14:30] MasterBob: pidgin, irssi [14:30] eipou_, Xchat or xchat-gnome? [14:30] but after installing it isn't opening [14:30] Anyone had an issue where upon installing mysql-server with apt-get, no mysqld.sock is created and the server won't start? [14:30] MasterBob: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat [14:30] debd: how did you install it ? [14:30] MasterBob: It depends what you want, xchat is quite popular with a gui, and irssi is a terminal based app [14:31] ran configure; make ; checkinstall [14:31] debd: ok - so that's where I end support [14:31] debd: you're trying to start an application that is failing to compile [14:31] lolmatic, which package manager ? [14:31] debd: from my opinion you should not be doing any of this [14:31] MasterBob, whatever you prefer. There is not much difference. [14:31] but the dep. s I got through apt-get did'nt meet the ver. requirements [14:32] it was compiled anyway [14:32] i cant open videos every wheere i have flash [14:32] Thanks DJones, eipou_, atlef. [14:32] and installed with sudo checkinstall --fstrans=0 [14:32] debd: I can't support you're system, you've made a mess of it and you don't know what you're doing, [14:32] eipou_, okay. Thanks, guess I'll have to try both. [14:32] I have made no mess [14:32] BluesKaj: i was running the update from system menu [14:33] abiword wich ws previously installed ; was removes from synaptic [14:33] *removed [14:33] Bye bye [14:33] now I want to give it another try === iqpi is now known as {qp}[comiendo] [14:34] and I havn't tried to install gtk2+ manually yet [14:34] I was jst searching for the dep. s it required [14:36] lolmatic, hmm, the only thing I can suggest is somewhat dirty , log out and back in , open a terminal , sudo dphkg --configure -a , then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade [14:36] debd, type everything on one line. This is a busy chat and your question is being scattered all over the place. [14:36] is Glade used for GTK2 development? [14:37] mithran: You can use it [14:37] hm [14:37] using GTK2 can I write any applications for android? [14:37] hi, anybody who knows a thing or two about Perl? (XML::Simple specifically) [14:37] you are too impatient to hear me ikonia [14:37] mithran: android does not use gtk [14:38] BMJackal, anything in particular ? [14:38] Can I install packages while running from a LiveCD? [14:38] mithran: pretty sure android is all about the javas [14:38] E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? <- What is the dpkg command to fix this? I forgot it. [14:38] erUSUL: so Applications will just work on Gnome and XFCE then? [14:38] I need to use backintime to back up my home folder from my messed up computer. [14:38] debd: Installing things from source is something that is usually not needed on Ubuntu, especially for things that are already provided in the repositories. I don't know why you're trying to do this, and you will break your system by randomly installing different versions of things that are critical. [14:38] !aptfix | anonboots [14:38] anonboots: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a » [14:38] anonboots: You have more than one package manager open at once (you can't do that). Look for the process in ps -e (or gnome system monitor) and kill it. [14:38] GibbaTheHutt: yup, I have the hash structure produced by XMLin, but I cannot access the array that it creates (always says the length is greater than it is) [14:39] So I need to know, can I use synaptic and install stuff like normal even though I'll be running froma LiveCD? [14:39] mithran: will work in any unix that has gtk libs and in meego and in windows ( there are ports of gtk to windows ) [14:39] pm me if you want, maybe nopaste the code, I may be able to help, maybe not :) [14:39] BluesKaj: i just rebooted the shit machine, now its installing properly [14:39] mithran: #android and #android-dev are likely better places to seek information about making programs for android. [14:39] I am aware of that. [14:39] lolmatic: Please mid your language here. [14:39] *mind [14:39] How to set different nameserver for certain user? [14:39] Sorry, that was to BMJackal [14:40] Pici, upon running that command, I get this reply "dpkg: status database area is locked by another process" [14:40] anonboots: Then it sounds like you do still have another apt front end running. [14:40] I do. Its software center. [14:40] anonboots: So kill that. [14:40] The packages it was installing... arent installing. [14:41] ok. would you tell me only one thing? is it possible to prevent apt-get from downloading outdated archives? and if yes, how? [14:42] Can anyone tell me how I can enable letting my displays rotate in Ubuntu? [14:43] hi [14:43] On ubuntu 10.10 x64 I installed finger-ldap but it complains "Can't read /etc/libnss-ldap.conf" and that file doesn't exist. Is there a package which does have it I am missing? [14:43] Travis-42, You mean to switch from landscape to portrait as you turn your monitor? [14:44] dsnyders, yea. I used to do that in Windows, but can't seem to figure it out in Ubuntu. [14:44] lolmatic, ok [14:44] how do i get folder contents count ? [14:44] can someone suggest a good networking channel?, I have a DHCP client not recieveing offers problem :( [14:45] this version 10.10... it says If i'm using windows, i can use Ubuntu Windows installer to run Ubuntu alongside your current system. that could mean one of two things: A) it just installs itself to a seperate partition while i'm still in windows, or B) it installs itself as a VM to run inside windows..? [14:45] mithran: #network #freenode [14:45] which one is it? [14:45] Is there any way I can attach a hook when a monitor gets plugged in ? [14:45] RPG__Master: read a little here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD/Persistence [14:45] good evening i have a external WD hd my ubuntu cant detect even in Disk Utility, i tried to issue fdisk -l but no luck, need help thanks [14:45] Есть кто живой? [14:45] hi [14:46] Оо [14:46] hello [14:46] hola [14:46] Hallo [14:46] hello [14:46] oO [14:46] Travis-42, Not a clue. Sorry. [14:46] how do i get folder contents count ? [14:46] hi [14:46] !hello [14:46] this is my first time here [14:46] stjohnmedrano: look at the output of lsusb in a terminal, if it is not there there will probably be an error message in the output of 'dmesg' near the time when you plugged it in [14:46] ssd: o ye ? [14:47] lets party [14:47] yes [14:47] !ot [14:47] #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! === frank is now known as frank9999 [14:47] its really cool [14:47] !ot [14:47] yeh [14:47] how do i get folder contents count ? [14:47] what kind of linux u use [14:47] ssd: you have a ubuntu-support-question? [14:47] well, i use redhat but i am asking in ubuntu [14:47] cuz am crazy [14:47] hey guys, is there a way to give any user under group "test1" to have their home directory automaticly set to /home/test1/user ? [14:47] ok [14:48] Travis-42, Google up xrandr. Some people are using that. [14:48] im using backtrack 4 [14:48] really nice [14:48] dsnyders, thanks, I'll look into that [14:48] ARCH! linux.... [14:48] ssd: again, you have a support-question? [14:48] :D [14:48] how do i get folder contents count ? [14:48] !repeat | dr0id [14:48] no [14:48] dr0id: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/ [14:48] !backtrack | ssd [14:48] why [14:48] ssd: There are some Ubuntu derivatives that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux), Ultimate Edition [14:48] Sprechen sie deutsch? [14:48] ssd: this channel is for Ubuntu technical support only. if you're not using Ubuntu, or simply want to chat about it, try #ubuntu-offtopic [14:48] dr0id: ls /path/ | wc -l [14:48] !de | acer__ [14:48] acer__: In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis. [14:48] !de | acer__ [14:48] haha , sorry. but its kinda urgent [14:49] Was 11.04 ever pushed back? It's end of month but for some reason I thought it was originally earlier [14:49] Travis-42, I think what you do is define two screens in xorg.conf and switch between them somehow. [14:49] mmmm thanks Pici [14:49] overshard: No, its always been the end of the month. Further Natty dicussion in #ubuntu+1 [14:49] ohsix: lsusb not found also, [14:49] oO ok, speak english :) [14:49] what was that app called that gives you an ASCII version of the test you input (like cowsay but not that one) [14:49] Pici: ok thanks, just making sure [14:49] atlef, Thanks! That looks like just what I needed to know. [14:49] overshard: 10.10 was on the 10th, but only because they wanted to release it on 10/10/10 [14:49] Is Wubi an in-windows install, basically it's own VM? if so - how reliably does it work / recieve updates? I'd like to run ubuntu from a VM instead of a standalone OS but i'm wondering about performance issues and whatnot [14:50] RPG__Master: you are welcome [14:50] stjohnmedrano: ok, if theres nothing about it in dmesg then you have to start wondering if it's even plugged in :] [14:50] dsnyders, ah that might make sense! I already switch between some screen setups using xorg.conf to let me enable/disable monitors. probably can't be automatic, but it'll be good enough, thank you [14:50] mordof: Its not a VM, it installs it within a file containing a disk image. It works well, except that there are sometimes issues with updating the bootloader. [14:50] mordof: it uses a file as a hard drive, it's as native as a partitioned install; except with the added overhead of 2 filesystems === lars__ is now known as LarsTorben [14:51] ohsix: i think its plugin coz there is a white light [14:51] You speak russia? [14:51] can i find porn servers here? [14:51] !ru | acer__ [14:51] acer__: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке / Pozhalujsta posetite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke [14:51] ssd: no. [14:51] Pici, ahsix: ah.. ok thanks :) i shall give that a try then and see how it works. [14:52] there are no porn servers here? [14:52] ssd: just stop it [14:52] Pici: not sure why that works tho :P [14:52] Hi, can anyone tell me where Alien saves converted .deb files? They're not in the same directory as the rpms I converted, but I can't re-convert because wherever they are, they can't be overwritten :) [14:52] dr0id: ls changes its output if its being piped into another program. It confused me at first too. [14:53] dr0id: Try ls | less to see for yourself. [14:53] more specifically, it checks if stdout is a terminal [14:53] when it's piped by the shell it isn't [14:53] yeh, i have tried | less or | more before :P [14:53] ohsix: Thanks for the clarification. [14:54] oh, one last thing before i install Wubi and risk wasting bandwidth - Wubi is capable of going fullscreen overtop the windows UI right? [14:54] glad i can [14:54] it'll be pointless if it doesn't :\ lol [14:54] Travis-42, You're welcome. You may also want to do a bit of googling on grandr as well. As far as the switch being automatic, you may be able to write a script and reprogram one of the function keys. [14:54] mordof: yes [14:54] mordof: A wubi install does not run at the same time that windows does. You still need to reboot to run it. [14:54] mordof: huh, wubi dualboots with windows using mbr instead of grub [14:54] oh [14:54] mordof: it will boot instead of windows; the only thing in common is where the files are stored [14:54] hm :\ [14:55] that's pointless then, i'm installing it normally [14:55] it sounded like it was nested inside windows, lol [14:55] running and everything like a VM [14:55] hi. i am on debian right now. i want to prepare my pendrive that i can install ubuntu 10.10 from it. so i don't have "disc creator", how can i prepare my pendrive? (i have got ubuntu 10.10 desktop iso already) [14:55] asdo, use unetbootin [14:55] mordof: Its an option for people who do not want to re-partition their drives, and that only. [14:55] how come xchat link open in FF when i set chrome as default ? (other programs send to chrome) [14:55] ah [14:56] asdo: unetbootin [14:56] mordof: which can help if you can't decide or don't know up front how much space you want/need for each [14:56] how about dd? [14:56] dd'ing an iso to a usb stick won't do anything [14:57] there is an image you can use with dd though [14:57] Huh. I really can't find these converted .deb files [14:57] is it still the case that i have to use the 64 bit version of the OS to get multi-core support? [14:58] mordof: that was never the case [14:58] i think that was a very long time ago [14:58] unless you mean software restrictions in windows, which obviously wouldn't apply; and ubuntu doesn't charge by the socket/core ;] [14:58] Hi, can anyone think of a way to change the default monitor in a dual screen setup, without creating a xorg.conf? is there some gconf setting or the likes? Id prefer X to autodetect the correct driver, since I sometimes boot from a vbox and sometimes on real hardware [14:58] it's been a while since i've used ubuntu.. lol. when multi-core kernel support was coming out it was only in the 64 bit kernel release if i remember correctly [14:59] is there a way to have a "fake" webcam for development? [14:59] hi [14:59] IsoLinCHiP: xrandr [14:59] one more before giving up: Does anyone know where Alien saves converted files? I can't find them anywhere. [14:59] bencc: yep [14:59] FoolsRun: at the current directory you are calling alien [14:59] FoolsRun: no idea what Alien is, so i can't help ya there [15:00] bencc: v4l has vloopback; theres a few things that can write video to it [15:00] iceroot: That's what I thought, but they're not there. [15:00] iceroot: however, if I run Alien again, it says it can't overwrite the .deb files taht apparently exist somewhere. [15:00] Hi all! Is there a program that will convert space separated hex characters into ASCII. eg 86 65 78 69 83 83 65 44 32 76 65 0 [15:00] FoolsRun: sounds like its time for "find" or "locate" [15:01] locate *.deb or something? [15:01] !locate | FoolsRun [15:01] FoolsRun: locate is a command-line file search utility. To make sure its cache is up to date run: sudo updatedb [15:01] FoolsRun: locate foobar*.deb [15:02] dsnyders: you could probably write a simple bash script to do that [15:02] dsnyders: it wouldn't be that hard [15:02] FoolsRun: Does this help? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1017192 [15:02] i burned 11.04 iso to usb flash. How to start installing under linux? [15:02] bencc, http://hardc0l2e.wordpress.com/2010/01/20/fake-webcam-in-ubuntu-linux/ [15:03] mk0: not a good idea to use a beta if you dont know how to handle it [15:03] mk0, difficult... much easer is booting from stick [15:03] i cannot boot from stick. [15:03] why not? [15:03] rumpe1: thanks. trying [15:03] Smth is wrong with PC [15:04] with memory or hdd [15:04] mk0: does your motherboard support it? [15:04] yep [15:04] mk0, "cannot boot" is not a sufficient error report [15:04] who is speaking about error support? [15:04] locate cannot find the files [15:05] I just want to run installer under 10.04 === Lanathel is now known as Meya [15:05] Do anybody know what the difference between the 2.2Beta skype ubuntu package and the static/dynamic ones are? the md5sums of the binaries does not match. While it is reasonable that the static/dynamic ones are different of course, the binary in the ubuntu deb matches _neither_ ...!? [15:05] mk0: what did you use to create the usb stick [15:05] erhhh why? [15:05] the stick works okay in other PC's [15:06] mk0, well... then i would recommend installing it via virtualbox... but its much trickier [15:06] not a virtual box/ just run onstaller and install to a separate partition [15:06] mk0: there is an installer for that in ubuntu. you should download that [15:07] ah nevermind [15:07] misread something on the downloads page [15:07] Ok, so after looking up xrandr, I read that basically the gnome monitor applet uses xrandr. Unfortunately the gui doesnt seem to provide settings for the default monitor, anyone know where the monitor applet saves its settings? maybe that would be hackable :) [15:08] This is ridiculous. I'm going to have to format my machine because I can't find these .deb files [15:08] FoolsRun: just out of curiosity - did you do an updatedb before locate? [15:08] mordof: I did [15:08] locate can find files [15:08] k, just thought i'd check to make sure, heh [15:09] FoolsRun: try using find instead [15:09] find *.deb? [15:09] so on a side note - why is the 32 bit version of the OS recommended over 64 bit? [15:09] find -name '*.deb' ;) [15:09] FoolsRun: find / -name 'NameOfIt.deb' [15:09] FoolsRun, maybe try "sudo find / -iname '*.deb'" [15:09] find is very powerful, you can have regexes and stuff if you want that too... [15:10] mordof: on a system with 4gb of ram or more, get the 64bit. otherwise 32bit will do [15:10] atlef: alright. 64 bit it is~ [15:10] atlef: i forgot about that limitation, thanks for the reminder... heh [15:11] mordof: you are welcome [15:11] mordof: that doesn't fit so much noadays nomore, former there where some apps hard to get in 64' , but lso can use pae, 64 is fine, use that [15:11] !pae [15:11] To use more than ~3.2GB RAM on a 32bit system you can install the PAE-enabled kernel. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnablingPAE for more info [15:11] does anyone know how to run two programs, each one forced to use a different network adaptor by default? [15:12] DasEi: im old :-) [15:12] DasEi: ehh.. i'll just install the 64 bit OS [15:12] find doesn't find the files I need [15:12] yes [15:12] Hi guys [15:12] for gmail and ubuntu users, what do you use to get inbox notifications in Gnome [15:12] geckosenator, some programs allow you to choose the network adapter [15:13] aminho: what about the indicator-applet? [15:13] it's quite confusing that there's an desktop installer under win and under linux there's no anything. [15:13] FoolsRun: locate is another possib', but database must be set up before [15:13] dsnyders: no good, I want a generic way [15:13] FoolsRun: what is your exact command (just to be sure) [15:13] iceroot, i'm taking a look at it [15:13] dsnyders: like a shell or something that blocks some interfaces [15:13] sudo find / -name *.deb [15:13] mk0: not really.. you're already in linux. you shouldn't need to install the new OS - besides.. you can't reinstall the entire OS while in it anyway. i'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish by the route you're taking. a dual boot? [15:13] dsnyders: the best I know of is running qemu and only linking a certain adapter [15:13] it finds some .debs in apt archives, but not the ones I converted with Alien [15:14] you need to escape the *.deb as either \*.deb or '*.deb' [15:14] FoolsRun: looking for a deb ? try *deb [15:14] not reinstall. Dual boot of course [15:14] iceroot, looks like it needs evolution set up ? [15:14] FoolsRun: or have some patience for : sudo updatedb && locate *deb [15:15] mk0: only reason for the windows one is so that windows users can try the OS without a format/partition management [15:15] mk0: you can't use a CD? [15:15] FoolsRun: Did you have write access in the path where you ran alien? [15:15] geckosenator, You may be able to do something with permissions [15:15] geckosenator: While just about any reasonable daemon will normally provide you with a option to specify which address (read device) to listen on, you could probably do some trickery with iptables [15:15] i have no cd. Only usb and iso [15:15] Hai [15:15] IsoLinCHiP: I want programs like firefox and transmission, not daemons [15:15] IsoLinCHiP: maybe I could use a proxy server though [15:16] mk0: there might be something here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes [15:16] What are some cool things you can do with Ubuntu desktop that you can't do with Windows? [15:16] mk0: you may need to fix the problem with why your USB won't boot up [15:16] mk0, well... if your pc doesnt boot from usb, you also could create an entry in grub2 for an iso... i guess.. and boot this way [15:16] Pici: yes, and I ran it with sudo [15:16] IsoLinCHiP: any suggestions for which filter to use in iptables? [15:16] rumpe1: oh hey.. that's a cool idea :o [15:16] Dragonbut, you can get rid of the desktop and be still able to work ^^ [15:16] it boots from usb. But this days something got broken [15:17] mk0: but do you want to dual boot different versions of ubuntu? [15:17] FoolsRun: Whats the issue with running alien again? [15:17] yep, this is the aim [15:17] geckosenator: hmm, ok, if you want specific programms, either look into tsocks and setup a socks proxy server with filtering, or try a search for iptables and transparent proxy, thatll probably get you started in the right direction [15:17] to have lts and betas beside [15:18] Pici: I converted some RPMs and I can't find the .debs. They're not in the directory I ran Alien in, and they're not found by locate or find. I can't convert again because it says the .debs can't be overwritten. [15:18] Hi all! [15:18] mk0, this sounds like something for you: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/02/how-to-boot-iso-with-grub2-easy-way.html [15:18] IsoLinCHiP: cool... the really tricky part will be getting bittorrent to work using multiple interfaces for the same file :-P [15:18] Dragonbut, You can have the program run on one computer and display on another. [15:18] That's all? [15:18] geckosenator: tsocks hooks into the system calls for network, so maybe a search for 'like tsocks' or 'LDPRELOAD network' gives you usefull hits [15:19] FoolsRun: Then it sounds like they are indeed in the path where your .rpms are. What makes you think that they arent? [15:19] Pici: the fact that they're not there. ls, ls -a, and ls as root shows only the .rpm files [15:19] mk0: then you need separate root and home direcories [15:19] Who can use Metasploit Framework? [15:19] i know this, i'd prefer just launch iso that is on usb stick now. Afair smth similar to this i saw in 10.04 [15:19] Hi there. I'm experiencing a weird problem. I'm not sure whether it's ubuntu related or not. But since I'm on ubuntu I'm asking here. I have a large text I need to paste into a textarea in firefox. Unfortunately, I can't paste a snippet when it becomes longer than a 1000 lines or so. It can be pasted to text editor, but browser just does nothing then I press 'paste'. Any ideas? [15:19] how do i change the max volume that i can go up to when im using the gnome desktop environment, alsa lets the PCM volume go over 0dB and I do not want this to happen [15:19] IsoLinCHiP: it would be best if the kernel could do this and send every other packet to a different interface [15:19] FoolsRun: ls *.deb doesn't reveal anything? [15:20] geckosenator: If your not on a LAN that wont give you any speed increase, as your 'dialup is still the bottleneck/same IP' [15:20] IsoLinCHiP: for transmission, but keep all the tcp acks on the right one [15:20] like installer runs under win32 [15:20] Dragonbut, I'm sure there are lots of things. Multiple desktops. Wobbly windows. Snapping. Google up compiz and see where that takes you. [15:20] People!!! [15:20] maus, like for a pastebin e.g.? === Pug is now known as Guest19880 [15:20] IsoLinCHiP: I live on a sailboat in mexico, I have automatically aimed wifi antennas, I can get 6 different connections, but only use 1 at a time :( [15:20] Who can use Metasploit? [15:21] Pici: no, it doesn't [15:21] geckosenator: Ahh, ok, I see, so you basically want downstream from satelite and upstream via the wifi antenna? [15:23] aminho: also working with gmail and thunderbird [15:23] geckosenator: Umn, scratch that with the satelites ;) didnt read carefully [15:23] IsoLinCHiP: no, up and down from multiple wifis in different places [15:23] so if one goes down it sends retries on a different interface [15:23] and if a new one comes online it starts using it [15:23] aminho: i have configured indicator-applet to work with thunderbird [15:23] Hi! I've installed libv8-2.2.1.8, now how do I use it from the terminal? [15:23] rumpe1, actually for a drupal site. But yes, both interfaces are based on a