| rbelem | Riddell, should i change plasma-mobile pkg version from svn to git? | 00:10 |
|---|---|---|
| Riddell | rbelem: surely upstream only uses one revision control system? | 00:11 |
| apachelogger | anyone seen kworker screw with your system? | 00:12 |
| rbelem | Riddell, they are using this now git://anongit.kde.org/plasma-mobile | 00:13 |
| Riddell | so what's the dilemma? | 00:13 |
| rbelem | Riddell, i replaced svn by git and svn is always greater than git | 00:14 |
| rbelem | Riddell, and the date, should i keep it or replace by something different? | 00:15 |
| Riddell | oh so it's ythe version number in the packaging you're asking about | 00:16 |
| rbelem | yup | 00:16 |
| Riddell | just keep it with svn then | 00:16 |
| rbelem | oki :-) | 00:17 |
| Riddell | clarify it in the changelog to stop confusion | 00:17 |
| rbelem | brb | 00:17 |
| txwikinger | Riddell: https://launchpad.net/~locoteams-approved/+members Kubuntu-de is not a member here | 01:14 |
| ScottK | Was it approved? | 01:19 |
| txwikinger | ScottK: approved LoCo | 01:35 |
| ScottK | Sounds like a question for the loco council. | 01:36 |
| txwikinger | You need to be approved to get CDs now | 01:36 |
| ScottK | Yep. | 01:36 |
| txwikinger | Riddell said Kubuntu-de was approved because it is a team on the loco.ubuntu.com website | 01:37 |
| txwikinger | I mean ld.ubuntu.com | 01:37 |
| txwikinger | but non-approved teams are there too, however would not get CDs | 01:37 |
| txwikinger | Another problem with the new CD shipping is, you can only get packages of 250Ubuntu/50Kubuntu/50Server | 01:38 |
| txwikinger | So you cannot get only Kubuntu CDs | 01:38 |
| tsimpson | 250/50/50 seems a little too weighted imo | 01:52 |
| ScottK | I'd imagine special requests can still be made. | 02:24 |
| DaemonFC | I'm experiencing an issue with Kubuntu Natty where shutdown exits to a console instead | 03:00 |
| DaemonFC | Is this a known issue? Right place to ask about it? etc. | 03:00 |
| ScottK | DaemonFC: I suspect it's unlikely to be a Kubuntu specific issue. You might ask in #ubuntu+1. | 03:16 |
| bambee | morning | 08:35 |
| c2tarun | what is plasma-scriptengine-googlegadgets why nobody took it for packing? | 09:47 |
| valorie | c2tarun: did you enter a proposal into GSoC? | 09:48 |
| Riddell | c2tarun: it did let you run google gadets on plasma, but we removed it recently because google gadgets isn't functional | 09:48 |
| valorie | about 10 hours left to do so | 09:48 |
| c2tarun | valorie: I asked few devs in #phonon but nobody replied :( | 09:49 |
| c2tarun | valorie: I also submitted a proposal but failed to find it again, where is it gone? | 09:49 |
| valorie | what was your link id? | 09:50 |
| valorie | I'll search | 09:50 |
| c2tarun | c2tarun | 09:50 |
| c2tarun | valorie: ^^' | 09:50 |
| valorie | alrighty | 09:50 |
| valorie | http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/proposal/review/google/gsoc2011/c2tarun/1 | 09:51 |
| valorie | oh my goodness, there is nothing there | 09:51 |
| valorie | you must fill in the entire proposal, in detail | 09:52 |
| valorie | before the deadline | 09:52 |
| valorie | it is worth doing, and there are devels in #phonon now | 09:53 |
| c2tarun | valorie: this project was suggested to me by apachelogger, I dont have anyother detail to fill there :( | 09:55 |
| c2tarun | valorie: can you please please help me in completing the proposal. | 09:55 |
| valorie | you haven't done any research? | 09:55 |
| valorie | I can't do your research for you | 09:55 |
| valorie | please look at http://goo.gl/EvyrX for some examples of successful past proposals | 09:56 |
| c2tarun | valorie: I tried, I read about android toolchain, asked some more info from apachelogger like how to make plugins and others, he said that mentor will help me in these stuffs. | 09:56 |
| valorie | once you have done it, I can help you improve it | 09:56 |
| valorie | no one can do your research for you | 09:56 |
| c2tarun | valorie: I am ready for research, I just want to know what I am looking for :/ | 09:57 |
| c2tarun | like all I got is about android tool chain, there is no info anywhere (or I failed to find :( ) about how to make plugins and other | 09:58 |
| valorie | I'll bet there is loads out there about how to make plugins | 09:58 |
| valorie | if nothing else, look at some plugin code | 09:58 |
| valorie | looks like qt, phonon, and android are all avenues of research | 09:59 |
| c2tarun | valorie: what is the deadline for submittin the proposal? | 09:59 |
| Nightrose | in 10 hours | 09:59 |
| Nightrose | submit as much as you can until then | 10:00 |
| Nightrose | we might be able to let you add some tiny bits later | 10:00 |
| Nightrose | but the major part of your proposal needs to be in melange before then | 10:00 |
| c2tarun | Nightrose: sure, I'll look on making plugins and Qt can you please suggest any other topic which I should research? | 10:00 |
| Nightrose | i don't know sorry | 10:01 |
| c2tarun | valorie: apachelogger ^^ can you please tell me few more topics for research :/ | 10:02 |
| valorie | #phonon would be productive | 10:02 |
| c2tarun | valorie: the sample proposals are one hell of a proposals, there is no way I can make any proposal like that in next 10 hours :( still I'll try my level best | 10:05 |
| valorie | that's your goal, and I think you can do well if you concentrate | 10:06 |
| steveire | We seem to have cmake 2.8.3 in kubuntu natty. Will this be upped to 2.8.4? | 11:17 |
| Riddell | steveire: needs a good reason for it to get around feature freeze (assuming it has new features) | 11:19 |
| davmor2 | Riddell: cause it's awesome! Or won't that cover it? | 11:19 |
| Riddell | well it might, if steveire thinks it's awesome it almost certainly is | 11:20 |
| Riddell | steveire: so go ahead and convince us :) | 11:20 |
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| steveire | It might be a fix for by pet bug :) http://public.kitware.com/Bug/view.php?id=12057 | 11:48 |
| steveire | Though I don't expect that to be a good reason | 11:49 |
| c2tarun | Nightrose: ping | 12:05 |
| c2tarun | Nightrose: please look at this proposal now http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/proposal/review/google/gsoc2011/c2tarun/1 I am working on implementation details and I dont have any idea how to decide time line :( | 12:07 |
| Riddell | steveire: kontact is working nicely on today's live CD, no akonadi or password issues | 12:10 |
| steveire | Riddell: That's good, but it's not what fedora people are saying... I wonder why | 12:11 |
| Riddell | on the other hand plasma-desktop is crashing, sigh | 12:11 |
| Nightrose | c2tarun: ok i will have a look | 12:22 |
| Nightrose | c2tarun: ok - can you break down your project into smaller pieces? | 12:24 |
| Nightrose | that is a first good step towards a timeline | 12:24 |
| Nightrose | what would you do first? | 12:24 |
| Nightrose | what's the step after that | 12:24 |
| c2tarun | Nightrose: I am exactly not able to decide the small parts, may be after reading something about JNI and creating plugin will help me. but that may take some. I can read about plugins quickly but using JNI is big. | 12:25 |
| Nightrose | ok | 12:26 |
| Nightrose | i can't help you more than that unfortunately as i am not familiar with the technology enough | 12:26 |
| c2tarun | Nightrose: no problem :) I'll try to make the report as better as possible :) before deadline | 12:26 |
| c2tarun | Nightrose: what if I write something about implementation and it may get wrong? | 12:27 |
| Nightrose | try to do your best and we'll see to the rest :) | 12:28 |
| c2tarun | Nightrose: ok :)( | 12:29 |
| c2tarun | :) | 12:29 |
| c2tarun | Nightrose: in proposal the timeline details are very much technical, I dont have that much technical information on the project. I simplified my project into these steps http://paste.kde.org/9211/ but I have no technical details to give :( | 12:51 |
| c2tarun | I was looking forward to mentor to point me to proper reference materials for the project. | 12:52 |
| c2tarun | Riddell: ping | 12:56 |
| Riddell | hello c2tarun | 12:59 |
| c2tarun | Riddell: hi :) you remember that you told me 2 mnths of contribution is required for kubuntu-membership? | 13:00 |
| Riddell | yes that's the usual recommendation | 13:00 |
| c2tarun | Riddell: I packed my first kde application (bangarang) 9 weeks ago. | 13:01 |
| Riddell | best start writing up your wiki page then :) | 13:01 |
| c2tarun | Riddell: is there any wiki page available of any kubuntu-member? that may help me in writing my page. | 13:02 |
| yofel | c2tarun: all members have a wiki page | 13:02 |
| * c2tarun looking | 13:02 | |
| Riddell | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Membership https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Membership example page https://wiki.kubuntu.org/AnthonyMercatante | 13:03 |
| yofel | Riddell was faster ^^ | 13:03 |
| c2tarun | apachelogger: please ping me when you come around. | 13:10 |
| c2tarun | what exactly is the difference between ubuntu membership and kubuntu membership except the fact the my contribution is more inclined to one of them? | 13:12 |
| === Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | Lots to do https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | beta 2 bugs http://goo.gl/HbXHe | ||
| Riddell | nothing | 13:12 |
| yofel | c2tarun: pretty much that, also kubuntu-members are also ubuntu-members | 13:12 |
| yofel | and you get one mail alias more | 13:12 |
| c2tarun | yofel: well I think way through kubuntu is easy then, kubuntu membership considers 2 months of contribution while ubuntu consider 6 mnths :) | 13:13 |
| JohnFlux | Hey | 13:14 |
| JohnFlux | In ksysguard, I merged some patches to add freebsd support | 13:15 |
| Riddell | hi JohnFlux | 13:15 |
| yofel | c2tarun: well, it's a point of view thing I guess, what matters is the commitment and the amount of contribution. I at least think you won't leave us soon ^^ | 13:15 |
| JohnFlux | Unfortunately these patches accidentally removed a #include, which silently meant that Hardware Temperature Sensors no longer worked | 13:15 |
| === rdieter_work is now known as rdieter_away | ||
| JohnFlux | I fixed this just after KDE 4.6.2 was tagged | 13:16 |
| JohnFlux | It would be good if you could merge the one-liner fix to readd the include | 13:16 |
| c2tarun | yofel: not unless someone here starts charging me for contributing ;) | 13:16 |
| === rdieter_away is now known as rdieter_work | ||
| Riddell | JohnFlux: yes can do, a post to kde-packagers is the best way to inform all distros, I think only subscribers can post so if you e-mail me the patch I can forward it then do what we do to get it into kubuntu | 13:17 |
| JohnFlux | It's not just ksysguard that is affected, but all the temperate plasmoids | 13:17 |
| yofel | c2tarun: lol, for now read the wiki pages and make sure to write up a good page about yourself and what you did for kubuntu | 13:17 |
| c2tarun | yofel: sure :) | 13:17 |
| JohnFlux | Riddell: done | 13:20 |
| Riddell | rbelem: how's plasma-mobile packages doing? | 13:21 |
| c2tarun | yofel: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/c2tarun is this page ok? or some more is needed? | 13:35 |
| yofel | c2tarun: simple but sufficient I guess, I'm not a good wiki designer though so let's see what the other say | 13:37 |
| yofel | c2tarun: one thing? can you make the LP id a link to your launchpad page? | 13:37 |
| yofel | s/?/:/ | 13:37 |
| c2tarun | yofel: yup, | 13:37 |
| c2tarun | yofel: done | 13:41 |
| yofel | did you rename that page? | 13:42 |
| c2tarun | yofel: nope | 13:42 |
| c2tarun | yofel: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/c2tarun | 13:42 |
| yofel | wtf, wiki.kubuntu.org says not found, wiki.ubuntu.com works o.O | 13:43 |
| c2tarun | yofel: yup I just noticed :/ why so? | 13:43 |
| yofel | no idea | 13:43 |
| c2tarun | hmmm.... what should I do next? | 13:44 |
| c2tarun | yofel: ^ | 13:45 |
| yofel | looks ok to me, have the others look at it, | 13:45 |
| c2tarun | yofel: who r others? | 13:48 |
| yofel | the other members here? just ask them when you see them | 13:49 |
| c2tarun | kubuntu-members please look at my wiki page and please tell if any changes are required https://wiki.ubuntu.com/c2tarun thank you | 13:51 |
| c2tarun | is there any other work around except testing? (I mean if there is no what others are doing?) | 13:57 |
| c2tarun | Riddell shadeslayer can you please look at my wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/c2tarun and tell me if anything else is needed there? | 15:01 |
| shadeslayer | c2tarun: I m -> I'm | 15:03 |
| shadeslayer | looks good otherwise | 15:03 |
| c2tarun | ok, how can I apply for kubuntu membership then? | 15:05 |
| shadeslayer | !member | c2tarun | 15:06 |
| ubottu | c2tarun: Ubuntu Membership means recognition of a significant and sustained contribution to Ubuntu and the Ubuntu community. For more info see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership | 15:06 |
| yofel | c2tarun: it says so on the kubuntu/membership page | 15:08 |
| txwikinger | Has anybody else noticed that newly installed apps in natty appear in the menu under the Application tab in the K-menu, but they do not seem to be searchable in K-menu anymore | 15:08 |
| shadeslayer | txwikinger: works fine for me on PN | 15:10 |
| c2tarun | yofel: when should I give date for next meeting? | 15:12 |
| yofel | no idea, ask Riddell | 15:12 |
| txwikinger | shadeslayer: PN? | 15:12 |
| shadeslayer | txwikinger: Project Neon :P | 15:13 |
| c2tarun | Riddell: when should I give date for next meeting? | 15:13 |
| txwikinger | Ah | 15:13 |
| shadeslayer | c2tarun: make a doodle | 15:13 |
| shadeslayer | and send it to the Kubuntu Devel mailing list | 15:13 |
| c2tarun | shadeslayer: doodle? | 15:13 |
| shadeslayer | kubotu: google doodle.com | 15:14 |
| kubotu | Results for doodle.com: 1. Doodle: easy scheduling: http://www.doodle.com/ | 2. Doodle: Create account: http://www.doodle.com/mydoodle/open.html | 3. Doodle: Frequently asked questions: http://www.doodle.com/about/faq.html | 15:14 |
| shadeslayer | c2tarun: ^^ | 15:14 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: i've forward ported akunambol to natty, please copy it to the archives | 15:19 |
| shadeslayer | erm | 15:19 |
| shadeslayer | i meant the official PPA | 15:19 |
| c2tarun | shadeslayer: what should I mention in title? | 15:20 |
| shadeslayer | Kubuntu Meeting ? :D | 15:21 |
| shadeslayer | c2tarun: btw i think we had a meeting very recently, you might want to talk to Riddell before scheduling another one | 15:21 |
| c2tarun | shadeslayer: sure :) | 15:21 |
| c2tarun | Riddell: | 15:21 |
| c2tarun | ping | 15:21 |
| Riddell | hi c2tarun | 15:26 |
| c2tarun | Riddell: hi :) shadeslayer told me that there was meeting very recently. so how should I apply for kubuntu-membership? | 15:27 |
| Riddell | organise another meeting | 15:29 |
| c2tarun | Riddell: for what date? | 15:29 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: from where do I copy? | 15:31 |
| apachelogger | I could just make you member of the akunambol team :P | 15:31 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: yeah one sec, i need to test the stuff first | 15:32 |
| Riddell | 15:13 < shadeslayer> c2tarun: make a doodle | 15:32 |
| * shadeslayer is waiting for stuff to build | 15:32 | |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: that seems easier | 15:33 |
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| c2tarun | what is the mailing list for kubuntu-devel? | 15:36 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: dude, have a look at my 2 proposals | 15:37 |
| apachelogger | you have a second too? | 15:37 |
| shadeslayer | the deadline is today, and tell me if they need anymore fixing | 15:37 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: yes ... :P | 15:37 |
| apachelogger | well | 15:37 |
| * apachelogger is still writing his second | 15:37 | |
| shadeslayer | :S | 15:38 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: KHelpCenter and? | 15:38 |
| shadeslayer | Phonon? | 15:38 |
| apachelogger | pr0n | 15:38 |
| bambee | Is there something to do this evening ? | 15:39 |
| c2tarun | shadeslayer: you proposed phonon project? | 15:39 |
| shadeslayer | c2tarun: no | 15:39 |
| * bambee is listening heligoland ... lovely... <3 | 15:40 | |
| shadeslayer | c2tarun: PIM Stuff and KDE Telepathy | 15:40 |
| c2tarun | shadeslayer: I tried to propose but they asked for my experience in multimedia and programming on android :( so I thought about dropping plans for GSoC | 15:40 |
| c2tarun | shadeslayer: anyway what should I write in description of that doodle? | 15:40 |
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| shadeslayer | c2tarun: didn't i tell you alread? :D | 15:41 |
| shadeslayer | *already | 15:41 |
| c2tarun | shadeslayer: that was topic for doodle, description? | 15:41 |
| shadeslayer | ah .. the agenda goes in there | 15:42 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: did you read my phonon proposal? | 15:42 |
| yofel | bambee: testing kdevelop on mav, otherwise nothing official I think | 15:42 |
| apachelogger | it features all sorts of graphics ^^ | 15:42 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: no.. i'm not a mentor ... so ... | 15:42 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: show | 15:42 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: it is the public | 15:42 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: linkie | 15:42 |
| * apachelogger likes to show off his thing | 15:42 | |
| bambee | yofel: It's already backported ;) | 15:42 |
| yofel | bambee: I said testing :P | 15:43 |
| bambee | I have finished to backport it this morning :) | 15:43 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/proposal/review/google/gsoc2011/apachelogger/1 | 15:43 |
| bambee | Ohh | 15:43 |
| bambee | yofel: :D | 15:43 |
| bambee | ok | 15:43 |
| shadeslayer | oooh | 15:44 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: nice | 15:44 |
| shadeslayer | that gives me a idea | 15:44 |
| c2tarun | shadeslayer: I mailed the doodle, do I still need to update kubuntu-meetings page? | 15:44 |
| shadeslayer | c2tarun: please do | 15:44 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: porn? | 15:45 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: images inline with proposal | 15:47 |
| apachelogger | lol, and I thought something awesome :P | 15:47 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: i have a video at the end ... no images tho ... :P | 15:47 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: you just edited raw HTML? | 15:47 |
| bambee | yofel: I can also help for KDE (however I will test kdevlop anyway) :) | 15:48 |
| yofel | well, we already release kde, so just hope it works :P | 15:48 |
| yofel | *released | 15:48 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: I wrote the flipping thing in googel docs :P | 15:50 |
| shadeslayer | O_)O | 15:50 |
| * apachelogger actually thinks that should be how that mumbo jumbo works | 15:50 | |
| apachelogger | if I were web developer I would propose a melange project making melange have inter course with the gdata api | 15:50 |
| bambee | yofel: I mean, I can help on upstream (programming, bugfixes , and so on), so indirectly contribute to kubuntu :) | 15:51 |
| yofel | ah yeah sure, go ahead ^^ | 15:51 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/proposal/review/google/gsoc2011/shadeslayer/1 | 15:53 |
| apachelogger | pr0nz? | 15:54 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: yes | 15:54 |
| apachelogger | a | 15:54 |
| apachelogger | h | 15:54 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: didnt I read that already? | 15:54 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: but you didn't comment ... do you haz any comments? | 15:55 |
| apachelogger | no | 15:55 |
| apachelogger | me likes | 15:55 |
| shadeslayer | ooh :) | 15:55 |
| * shadeslayer hugs apachelogger | 15:55 | |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: remind me to buy beer for you again @ next UDS i come to .... | 15:55 |
| shadeslayer | or at the Desktop Summit ... if i make it there | 15:55 |
| * apachelogger notes that he will be one day late for the DS | 15:56 | |
| apachelogger | my sis is getting married on august 6 it would appear | 15:56 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: congrats :) | 15:56 |
| apachelogger | well, not me obviously :P | 15:56 |
| apachelogger | and being late is nothing one needs congratulations on :P | 15:56 |
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| apachelogger | Nightrose: pingo | 15:57 |
| apachelogger | oh noes | 15:57 |
| apachelogger | my hone is awayz :( | 15:57 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: the congrats is for her .. not you :P | 15:57 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: what do I do if I am running low on brain juice for KHC? | 15:57 |
| shadeslayer | yep | 15:57 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: your idea seems solid, only problem, KHC seems dead | 15:57 |
| shadeslayer | like someone shot it in the head | 15:57 |
| apachelogger | hence the rewrite :P | 15:58 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: integrate it with nepomuk and/or telepathy? | 15:58 |
| shadeslayer | like : Oh look! your friend who uses KDE is online, lets ask him! | 15:58 |
| apachelogger | for starters I would like to have it not be dead :P | 15:58 |
| * apachelogger does not really know what to write about the impl details | 15:58 | |
| apachelogger | writing a lot there is like pre-designing the app | 15:59 |
| apachelogger | that is much against my agile attitude | 15:59 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: btw, eean had the terrific idea of putting the tasks of the tentative timeline into stories for a scrum backlog and split according to gsoc eval time lines into iterations | 16:00 |
| * apachelogger thinks this could go somewhere awesome | 16:01 | |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: scrum backlog? | 16:01 |
| apachelogger | scrumdo.com is also pretty nice on that note | 16:01 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: read up on the scrum | 16:01 |
| shadeslayer | yeah looking | 16:01 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: i also need to read up on Graph Theory | 16:01 |
| apachelogger | backlog is basically the collection of all stories (read tasks) | 16:01 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: why? | 16:02 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: because it's usefull in modelling of networks? | 16:02 |
| shadeslayer | -l | 16:02 |
| apachelogger | I mean, other than graphs being generally useful and stuff ^^ | 16:02 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: how is that? | 16:02 |
| apachelogger | I mean, you can model just about anything in graphs :P | 16:02 |
| shadeslayer | yep, but since my domain is going to be networking, i thought it would be helpful to have a idea on how to use them | 16:03 |
| apachelogger | like world positions in a scenegraph ;) | 16:03 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: so no particular use case yet? | 16:03 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: not really, but it would be useful in the future .. i hope | 16:04 |
| apachelogger | well, especially with nepomuk in the mix I suppose a good use case will arise :) | 16:04 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: reading this atm : http://www.gladwell.com/blink/index.html | 16:05 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sH0R01gP3m0 | 16:06 |
| apachelogger | wibbly wobbly timey wimey stuff! | 16:06 |
| shadeslayer | hehe | 16:06 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: what happens if a feature was delayed by a week? | 16:08 |
| apachelogger | kubotu: order timey wimey detector | 16:08 |
| * kubotu slides timey wimey detector down the bar to apachelogger | 16:08 | |
| shadeslayer | does scrum still split stuff according to the same timeline? | 16:08 |
| apachelogger | check it out this is my timey wimey detector ---> SDF@!@%---. | 16:08 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: well, you do scrum | 16:09 |
| apachelogger | scrum is wibbley wobbly methodology stuff | 16:09 |
| apachelogger | unlike XP which is extremely precise | 16:09 |
| apachelogger | anyhow | 16:09 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: if a story did not get implemented within the target iteration that can mean a) the effort estimation was off -> look at other stories, how long did it take compared to their rating -> if off -> evaluate all pending stories again ... b) your too slow -> either get faster or you need to evaluate whether stories can be delayed to later timelines | 16:11 |
| * shadeslayer notes that there's no Button component in QML .... | 16:11 | |
| apachelogger | b) in particular would probably mean removing storis/features from the scope fo the gsoc project | 16:11 |
| apachelogger | at any rate it brings the advantage that it is less likely you will end up with an unfinished unuseful project by the end of gsoc | 16:12 |
| apachelogger | as both you and your mentor have an idea of how well progress is going, so that appropraite steps can be taken to reduce scope | 16:12 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: does it factor in stuff like pressing engagements that might crop up and force one to not work for a week and put in extra effort the following week | 16:12 |
| apachelogger | equally scope can be increased if progress is good | 16:12 |
| shadeslayer | neat | 16:12 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: that is within your range of decision | 16:13 |
| apachelogger | you say what stories go in what iteration | 16:13 |
| shadeslayer | ah .. interesting indeed | 16:13 |
| apachelogger | and you can do this easier because you estimated the difficulty yourself | 16:13 |
| apachelogger | so you probably should not stuff 2 stories of highest possible difficulty in a 2 weeks iteration of which you know one week will be spent on vacation ;) | 16:13 |
| shadeslayer | sweet man .... | 16:14 |
| apachelogger | but to advertise the general agile approach, as you would have projects for longer than the couple of weeks gsoc lasts you get better values of your overall project velocity | 16:14 |
| apachelogger | simplest value would be: how many points (i.e. difficulty of story) did you finish within the last couple of iterations | 16:15 |
| apachelogger | you would probably want to schedule stories that put together result in an equal amount of points for the next iteration | 16:16 |
| apachelogger | someone please get me some commas ^^ | 16:16 |
| * shadeslayer hands a box full of ',''s to apachelogger | 16:17 | |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: sounds really neat | 16:17 |
| bambee | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usGkq7tAhfc LOL | 16:35 |
| rbelem | Riddell, | 16:51 |
| rbelem | i just upload the new package to revu | 16:52 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: poke | 17:03 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: bingo | 17:05 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: have you seen the progressbar QML mockup? | 17:06 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: the one with the multiple progress bars | 17:07 |
| apachelogger | no | 17:08 |
| Daskreech | rickspencer3: ping | 17:09 |
| rickspencer3 | hi Daskreech | 17:09 |
| Daskreech | rickspencer3: Hello heard that Unity is in question for 11.04? | 17:09 |
| rickspencer3 | Daskreech, well, it was discussed on @-desktop and @-devel | 17:10 |
| rickspencer3 | it looks to not be an issue | 17:10 |
| rickspencer3 | I think phoronix was being, perhaps, a bit sensationalist | 17:10 |
| Daskreech | rickspencer3: So no longer in question? | 17:10 |
| Daskreech | rickspencer3: hey. Eyeballs :) | 17:10 |
| shadeslayer | hmm | 17:11 |
| rickspencer3 | Daskreech, well, we haven't shipped yet, but the trend looks good | 17:11 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: give me a sec okay | 17:11 |
| Daskreech | rickspencer3: what were the issues at the core of the discussion? | 17:12 |
| apachelogger | Daskreech: the supremacy of plasma | 17:12 |
| Daskreech | apachelogger: plasma wins that's not an issue | 17:12 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: one sec is over :P | 17:12 |
| Daskreech | corona maybe | 17:12 |
| rickspencer3 | Daskreech, I'm sorry, I wish I had time right at the moment to discuss with you, but I have some managery stuff I have to get done | 17:13 |
| apachelogger | valorie: pingy | 17:13 |
| rickspencer3 | Daskreech, you can read all about it on the list though | 17:13 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: http://doc.qt.nokia.com/latest/declarative-ui-components-progressbar-content-progressbar-qml.html | 17:13 |
| Daskreech | rickspencer3: link from the Phoronix article? | 17:13 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: thats what i'm using in combination with : http://paste.kde.org/9231 | 17:13 |
| * Daskreech goes to look for the article | 17:13 | |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: and then wat happens? | 17:13 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: but i can't quite figure out why i have multiple progress bar | 17:13 |
| shadeslayer | *bars | 17:13 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: just from quick looky looky ... everytime a repeater gets created a progress bar gets created too | 17:14 |
| shadeslayer | oh ... | 17:14 |
| shadeslayer | whee | 17:15 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: thanks :) | 17:15 |
| apachelogger | did I ping valorie yet? | 17:15 |
| apachelogger | ah, I did | 17:15 |
| shadeslayer | yep | 17:15 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/proposal/review/google/gsoc2011/apachelogger/8001 | 17:15 |
| apachelogger | read and tell me if you likes plz | 17:16 |
| shadeslayer | 8001 :O | 17:16 |
| apachelogger | not that it would have any chance to stand against pron in phonon | 17:16 |
| shadeslayer | people are getting weird url's for their second proposal | 17:16 |
| shadeslayer | i guess it's based on the day you submit | 17:16 |
| apachelogger | today is day 8001 of the 15th age of the matrix | 17:17 |
| shadeslayer | O_O dh: unable to load addon kde: Can't locate Debian/Debhelper/Sequence/kde.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.1 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at (eval 8) line 2. | 17:18 |
| shadeslayer | someone broke my precious dh | 17:18 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: you read the proposal and dont mess with perl | 17:18 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: more likely pkg-kde-tools is either broken or not installed I suppose | 17:18 |
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| Riddell | apachelogger: you used umbrello! bonus points! | 17:35 |
| === ximion is now known as makl | ||
| * txwikinger cheers for umbrello | 17:45 | |
| apachelogger | Riddell: also I know how to crash it reliably ^^ | 17:49 |
| rbelem | Riddell, did you take a look in the pkg? :-) | 17:55 |
| Nightrose | apachelogger: pong | 17:57 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: hmmm ... neat proposal :) | 18:02 |
| Riddell | rbelem: looking | 18:08 |
| Riddell | rbelem: hmm, this feels pretty broken | 18:13 |
| Riddell | rbelem: is it ment to look like this? http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/plasma-mobile.png | 18:14 |
| Riddell | talking of broken I can't find a way to fix the microblog applet, I think we'll have to not patch it and not have it in the default install | 18:16 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/kde-extra | 18:32 |
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| Riddell | debfx: ping | 19:06 |
| Riddell | your 2.8.3-3ubuntu5 cmake upload has a debian autogenerated patch in it | 19:06 |
| Riddell | which i think reverts ubuntu_multiarch_library_directory.diff to an earlier version | 19:07 |
| valorie | apachelogger: pong | 19:38 |
| * Daskreech hugs valorie | 19:41 | |
| valorie | {{{{{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} Daskreech | 19:42 |
| valorie | 15 mins or so until deadline for GSoC submissions...... | 19:43 |
| shadeslayer | valorie: yep | 19:51 |
| * valorie {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} shadeslayer | 19:52 | |
| * shadeslayer {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} valorie back | 19:53 | |
| shadeslayer | valorie: i haz goosebumps | 19:53 |
| shadeslayer | and also i'm sleepy | 19:53 |
| Daskreech | What is good for the Goosebumps is good for the Ganderbumps | 19:54 |
| valorie | well, if your proposal is done, sleep! | 19:54 |
| shadeslayer | valorie: can't need to study for exam on monday | 19:55 |
| valorie | we can't announce anything for days -- don't even know how many slots we will get | 19:55 |
| valorie | more than 50, we hope | 19:55 |
| shadeslayer | yeah :) | 19:55 |
| * valorie proscribes sleep-learning | 19:55 | |
| shadeslayer | valorie: hopefully more :P | 19:55 |
| valorie | or power-napping | 19:55 |
| shadeslayer | valorie: i've tried .. i just ... keep sleeping once i sleep | 19:55 |
| shadeslayer | the only way to wake me up is pump me with coffee | 19:55 |
| shadeslayer | valorie: i was awake during day hours at UDS N just because of coffee | 19:56 |
| shadeslayer | valorie: going to budapest? | 19:57 |
| valorie | not sure -- I'm on the wait list | 19:58 |
| valorie | like last time | 19:58 |
| shadeslayer | another 2 mins right? | 19:58 |
| valorie | yes | 19:58 |
| shadeslayer | valorie: ah .. :) | 19:58 |
| valorie | counting down in kde-soc | 19:59 |
| valorie | :-) | 19:59 |
| shadeslayer | yeah :P | 20:02 |
| rbelem | Riddell, hum.. i will take a look on that | 20:23 |
| Riddell | rbelem: well did it look nicer for you when you ran it? | 20:25 |
| rbelem | Riddell, first time yes, but with the black background | 20:27 |
| rbelem | Riddell, did it happen to you too? | 20:28 |
| rbelem | i will try in the vm | 20:29 |
| ScottK | Is Klipper plasmified in 4.6? | 22:29 |
| Riddell | no, it's an application using status notifiers | 22:30 |
| ScottK | The status notifiers are plasma? | 22:31 |
| ScottK | I'm trying to narrow down a screen corruption issue and so far it seem just to affect plasma type things. | 22:31 |
| Riddell | status notifiers get rendered by plasma yes | 22:34 |
| ScottK | Thanks. | 22:35 |
| bambee | apachelogger: kcm-grub2 has been accepted into archives finally ? I don't find it | 23:02 |
| Riddell | bambee: it's still in New | 23:04 |
| bambee | Riddell: do you mean in the new packages queue ? | 23:06 |
| debfx | Riddell: interesting, could you remove it? | 23:06 |
| rbelem | Riddell, it is working fine in the vm | 23:11 |
| rbelem | Riddell, but without wallpaper | 23:12 |
| mu3en | works here with wallpaper | 23:14 |
| rbelem | mu3en, todays build? | 23:16 |
| Riddell | bambee: yes | 23:16 |
| bambee | ok | 23:17 |
| mu3en | no. not today's build. sorry. | 23:20 |
| rbelem | mu3en, np :-) | 23:21 |
| rbelem | Riddell, do you know about org.kde.qtextracomponents? | 23:31 |
| Riddell | rbelem: nope | 23:32 |
| rbelem | Riddell, i need to find where it lives | 23:33 |
| rbelem | Riddell, it is needed by the new plasma-mobile | 23:33 |
| Riddell | I don't know I'm afraid, maybe e-mail marco martin | 23:35 |
| rbelem | Riddell, http://is.gd/nbxNGy | 23:35 |
| rbelem | plasma-components | 23:36 |
| rbelem | didn't know about that | 23:36 |
| Riddell | can't get the source it seems https://build.pub.meego.com/package/files?package=plasma-components&project=home%3Amkruisselbrink%3Akde | 23:41 |
| rbelem | Riddell, https://build.pub.meego.com/package/files?package=plasma-components&project=home%3Amkruisselbrink%3Akde | 23:52 |
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