[00:10] <rbelem> Riddell, should i change plasma-mobile pkg version from svn to git?
[00:11] <Riddell> rbelem: surely upstream only uses one revision control system?
[00:12] <apachelogger> anyone seen kworker screw with your system?
[00:13] <rbelem> Riddell, they are using this now git://anongit.kde.org/plasma-mobile
[00:13] <Riddell> so what's the dilemma?
[00:14] <rbelem> Riddell, i replaced svn by git and svn is always greater than git
[00:15] <rbelem> Riddell, and the date, should i keep it or replace by something different?
[00:16] <Riddell> oh so it's ythe version number in the packaging you're asking about
[00:16] <rbelem> yup
[00:16] <Riddell> just keep it with svn then
[00:17] <rbelem> oki :-)
[00:17] <Riddell> clarify it in the changelog to stop confusion
[00:17] <rbelem> brb
[01:14] <txwikinger> Riddell: https://launchpad.net/~locoteams-approved/+members Kubuntu-de is not  a member here
[01:19] <ScottK> Was it approved?
[01:35] <txwikinger> ScottK: approved LoCo
[01:36] <ScottK> Sounds like a question for the loco council.
[01:36] <txwikinger> You need to be approved to get CDs now
[01:36] <ScottK> Yep.
[01:37] <txwikinger> Riddell said Kubuntu-de was approved because it is a team on the loco.ubuntu.com website
[01:37] <txwikinger> I mean ld.ubuntu.com
[01:37] <txwikinger> but non-approved teams are there too, however would not get CDs
[01:38] <txwikinger> Another problem with the new CD shipping is, you can only get packages of 250Ubuntu/50Kubuntu/50Server
[01:38] <txwikinger> So you cannot get only Kubuntu CDs
[01:52] <tsimpson> 250/50/50 seems a little too weighted imo
[02:24] <ScottK> I'd imagine special requests can still be made.
[03:00] <DaemonFC> I'm experiencing an issue with Kubuntu Natty where shutdown exits to a console instead
[03:00] <DaemonFC> Is this a known issue? Right place to ask about it? etc.
[03:16] <ScottK> DaemonFC: I suspect it's unlikely to be a Kubuntu specific issue.  You might ask in #ubuntu+1.
[08:35] <bambee> morning
[09:47] <c2tarun> what is plasma-scriptengine-googlegadgets  why nobody took it for packing?
[09:48] <valorie> c2tarun: did you enter a proposal into GSoC?
[09:48] <Riddell> c2tarun: it did let you run google gadets on plasma, but we removed it recently because google gadgets isn't functional
[09:48] <valorie> about 10 hours left to do so
[09:49] <c2tarun> valorie: I asked few devs in #phonon but nobody replied :(
[09:49] <c2tarun> valorie: I also submitted a proposal but failed to find it again, where is it gone?
[09:50] <valorie> what was your link id?
[09:50] <valorie> I'll search
[09:50] <c2tarun> c2tarun
[09:50] <c2tarun> valorie: ^^'
[09:50] <valorie> alrighty
[09:51] <valorie> http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/proposal/review/google/gsoc2011/c2tarun/1
[09:51] <valorie> oh my goodness, there is nothing there
[09:52] <valorie> you must fill in the entire proposal, in detail
[09:52] <valorie> before the deadline
[09:53] <valorie> it is worth doing, and there are devels in #phonon now
[09:55] <c2tarun> valorie: this project was suggested to me by apachelogger, I dont have anyother detail to fill there :(
[09:55] <c2tarun> valorie: can you please please help me in completing the proposal.
[09:55] <valorie> you haven't done any research?
[09:55] <valorie> I can't do your research for you
[09:56] <valorie> please look at http://goo.gl/EvyrX for some examples of successful past proposals
[09:56] <c2tarun> valorie: I tried, I read about android toolchain, asked some more info from apachelogger like how to make plugins and others, he said that mentor will help me in these stuffs.
[09:56] <valorie> once you have done it, I can help you improve it
[09:56] <valorie> no one can do your research for you
[09:57] <c2tarun> valorie: I am ready for research, I just want to know what I am looking for :/
[09:58] <c2tarun> like all I got is about android tool chain, there is no info anywhere (or I failed to find :( ) about how to make plugins and other
[09:58] <valorie> I'll bet there is loads out there about how to make plugins
[09:58] <valorie> if nothing else, look at some plugin code
[09:59] <valorie> looks like qt, phonon, and android are all avenues of research
[09:59] <c2tarun> valorie: what is the deadline for submittin the proposal?
[09:59] <Nightrose> in 10 hours
[10:00] <Nightrose> submit as much as you can until then
[10:00] <Nightrose> we might be able to let you add some tiny bits later
[10:00] <Nightrose> but the major part of your proposal needs to be in melange before then
[10:00] <c2tarun> Nightrose: sure, I'll look on making plugins and Qt can you please suggest any other topic which I should research?
[10:01] <Nightrose> i don't know sorry
[10:02] <c2tarun> valorie: apachelogger ^^ can you please tell me few more topics for research :/
[10:02] <valorie> #phonon would be productive
[10:05] <c2tarun> valorie: the sample proposals are one hell of a proposals, there is no way I can make any proposal like that in next 10 hours :( still I'll try my level best
[10:06] <valorie> that's your goal, and I think you can do well if you concentrate
[11:17] <steveire> We seem to have cmake 2.8.3 in kubuntu natty. Will this be upped to 2.8.4?
[11:19] <Riddell> steveire: needs a good reason for it to get around feature freeze (assuming it has new features)
[11:19] <davmor2> Riddell: cause it's awesome! Or won't that cover it?
[11:20] <Riddell> well it might, if steveire thinks it's awesome it almost certainly is
[11:20] <Riddell> steveire: so go ahead and convince us :)
[11:48] <steveire> It might be a fix for by pet bug :) http://public.kitware.com/Bug/view.php?id=12057
[11:49] <steveire> Though I don't expect that to be a good reason
[12:05] <c2tarun> Nightrose: ping
[12:07] <c2tarun> Nightrose: please look at this proposal now http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/proposal/review/google/gsoc2011/c2tarun/1 I am working on implementation details and I dont have any idea how to decide time line :(
[12:10] <Riddell> steveire: kontact is working nicely on today's live CD, no akonadi or password issues
[12:11] <steveire> Riddell: That's good, but it's not what fedora people are saying... I wonder why
[12:11] <Riddell> on the other hand plasma-desktop is crashing, sigh
[12:22] <Nightrose> c2tarun: ok i will have a look
[12:24] <Nightrose> c2tarun: ok - can you break down your project into smaller pieces?
[12:24] <Nightrose> that is a first good step towards a timeline
[12:24] <Nightrose> what would you do first?
[12:24] <Nightrose> what's the step after that
[12:25] <c2tarun> Nightrose: I am exactly not able to decide the small parts, may be after reading something about JNI and creating plugin will help me. but that may take some. I can read about plugins quickly but using JNI is big.
[12:26] <Nightrose> ok
[12:26] <Nightrose> i can't help you more than that unfortunately as i am not familiar with the technology enough
[12:26] <c2tarun> Nightrose: no problem :) I'll try to make the report as better as possible :) before deadline
[12:27] <c2tarun> Nightrose: what if I write something about implementation and it may get wrong?
[12:28] <Nightrose> try to do your best and we'll see to the rest :)
[12:29] <c2tarun> Nightrose: ok :)(
[12:29] <c2tarun> :)
[12:51] <c2tarun> Nightrose: in proposal the timeline details are very much technical, I dont have that much technical information on the project. I simplified my project into these steps http://paste.kde.org/9211/ but I have no technical details to give :(
[12:52] <c2tarun> I was looking forward to mentor to point me to proper reference materials for the project.
[12:56] <c2tarun> Riddell: ping
[12:59] <Riddell> hello c2tarun 
[13:00] <c2tarun> Riddell: hi :) you remember that you told me 2 mnths of contribution is required for kubuntu-membership?
[13:00] <Riddell> yes that's the usual recommendation
[13:01] <c2tarun> Riddell: I packed my first kde application (bangarang) 9 weeks ago.
[13:01] <Riddell> best start writing up your wiki page then :)
[13:02] <c2tarun> Riddell: is there any wiki page available of any kubuntu-member? that may help me in writing my page.
[13:02] <yofel> c2tarun: all members have a wiki page
[13:02]  * c2tarun looking
[13:03] <Riddell> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Membership  https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Membership example page https://wiki.kubuntu.org/AnthonyMercatante
[13:03] <yofel> Riddell was faster ^^
[13:10] <c2tarun> apachelogger: please ping me when you come around.
[13:12] <c2tarun> what exactly is the difference between ubuntu membership and kubuntu membership except the fact the my contribution is more inclined to one of them?
[13:12] <Riddell> nothing
[13:12] <yofel> c2tarun: pretty much that, also kubuntu-members are also ubuntu-members
[13:12] <yofel> and you get one mail alias more
[13:13] <c2tarun> yofel: well I think way through kubuntu is easy then, kubuntu membership considers 2 months of contribution while ubuntu consider 6 mnths :)
[13:14] <JohnFlux> Hey
[13:15] <JohnFlux> In ksysguard, I merged some patches to add freebsd support
[13:15] <Riddell> hi JohnFlux 
[13:15] <yofel> c2tarun: well, it's a point of view thing I guess, what matters is the commitment and the amount of contribution. I at least think you won't leave us soon ^^
[13:15] <JohnFlux> Unfortunately these patches accidentally removed a #include, which silently meant that Hardware Temperature Sensors no longer worked
[13:16] <JohnFlux> I fixed this just after KDE 4.6.2 was tagged
[13:16] <JohnFlux> It would be good if you could merge the one-liner fix to readd the include
[13:16] <c2tarun> yofel: not unless someone here starts charging me for contributing ;)
[13:17] <Riddell> JohnFlux: yes can do, a post to kde-packagers is the best way to inform all distros, I think only subscribers can post so if you e-mail me the patch I can forward it then do what we do to get it into kubuntu
[13:17] <JohnFlux> It's not just ksysguard that is affected, but all the temperate plasmoids
[13:17] <yofel> c2tarun: lol, for now read the wiki pages and make sure to write up a good page about yourself and what you did for kubuntu
[13:17] <c2tarun> yofel: sure :)
[13:20] <JohnFlux> Riddell: done
[13:21] <Riddell> rbelem: how's plasma-mobile packages doing?
[13:35] <c2tarun> yofel: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/c2tarun is this page ok? or some more is needed?
[13:37] <yofel> c2tarun: simple but sufficient I guess, I'm not a good wiki designer though so let's see what the other say
[13:37] <yofel> c2tarun: one thing? can you make the LP id a link to your launchpad page?
[13:37] <yofel> s/?/:/
[13:37] <c2tarun> yofel: yup,
[13:41] <c2tarun> yofel: done
[13:42] <yofel> did you rename that page?
[13:42] <c2tarun> yofel: nope
[13:42] <c2tarun> yofel: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/c2tarun
[13:43] <yofel> wtf, wiki.kubuntu.org says not found, wiki.ubuntu.com works o.O
[13:43] <c2tarun> yofel: yup I just noticed :/ why so?
[13:43] <yofel> no idea
[13:44] <c2tarun> hmmm.... what should I do next?
[13:45] <c2tarun> yofel: ^
[13:45] <yofel> looks ok to me, have the others look at it, 
[13:48] <c2tarun> yofel: who r others?
[13:49] <yofel> the other members here? just ask them when you see them
[13:51] <c2tarun> kubuntu-members please look at my wiki page and please tell if any changes are required https://wiki.ubuntu.com/c2tarun thank you
[13:57] <c2tarun> is there any other work around except testing? (I mean if there is no what others are doing?)
[15:01] <c2tarun> Riddell shadeslayer can you please look at my wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/c2tarun and tell me if anything else is needed there?
[15:03] <shadeslayer> c2tarun: I m -> I'm
[15:03] <shadeslayer> looks good otherwise
[15:05] <c2tarun> ok, how can I apply for kubuntu membership then?
[15:06] <shadeslayer> !member | c2tarun
[15:08] <yofel> c2tarun: it says so on the kubuntu/membership page
[15:08] <txwikinger> Has anybody else noticed that newly installed apps in natty appear in the menu under the Application tab in the K-menu, but they do not seem to be searchable in K-menu anymore
[15:10] <shadeslayer> txwikinger: works fine for me on PN
[15:12] <c2tarun> yofel: when should I give date for next meeting?
[15:12] <yofel> no idea, ask Riddell
[15:12] <txwikinger> shadeslayer: PN?
[15:13] <shadeslayer> txwikinger: Project Neon :P
[15:13] <c2tarun> Riddell:  when should I give date for next meeting?
[15:13] <txwikinger> Ah
[15:13] <shadeslayer> c2tarun: make a doodle
[15:13] <shadeslayer> and send it to the Kubuntu Devel mailing list
[15:13] <c2tarun> shadeslayer: doodle?
[15:14] <shadeslayer> kubotu: google doodle.com
[15:14] <kubotu> Results for doodle.com: 1. Doodle: easy scheduling: http://www.doodle.com/ | 2. Doodle: Create account: http://www.doodle.com/mydoodle/open.html | 3. Doodle: Frequently asked questions: http://www.doodle.com/about/faq.html
[15:14] <shadeslayer> c2tarun: ^^
[15:19] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: i've forward ported akunambol to natty, please copy it to the archives
[15:19] <shadeslayer> erm
[15:19] <shadeslayer> i meant the official PPA
[15:20] <c2tarun> shadeslayer: what should I mention in title?
[15:21] <shadeslayer> Kubuntu Meeting ? :D
[15:21] <shadeslayer> c2tarun: btw i think we had a meeting very recently, you might want to talk to Riddell before scheduling another one
[15:21] <c2tarun> shadeslayer: sure :)
[15:21] <c2tarun> Riddell: 
[15:21] <c2tarun> ping
[15:26] <Riddell> hi c2tarun 
[15:27] <c2tarun> Riddell: hi :) shadeslayer told me that there was meeting very recently. so how should I apply for kubuntu-membership?
[15:29] <Riddell> organise another meeting
[15:29] <c2tarun> Riddell: for what date?
[15:31] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: from where do I copy?
[15:31] <apachelogger> I could just make you member of the akunambol team :P
[15:32] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: yeah one sec, i need to test the stuff first
[15:32] <Riddell> 15:13 < shadeslayer> c2tarun: make a doodle
[15:32]  * shadeslayer is waiting for stuff to build
[15:33] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: that seems easier
[15:36] <c2tarun> what is the mailing list for kubuntu-devel?
[15:37] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: dude, have a look at my 2 proposals
[15:37] <apachelogger> you have a second too?
[15:37] <shadeslayer> the deadline is today, and tell me if they need anymore fixing
[15:37] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: yes ... :P
[15:37] <apachelogger> well
[15:37]  * apachelogger is still writing his second
[15:38] <shadeslayer> :S
[15:38] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: KHelpCenter and?
[15:38] <shadeslayer> Phonon?
[15:38] <apachelogger> pr0n
[15:39] <bambee> Is there something to do this evening ?
[15:39] <c2tarun> shadeslayer: you proposed phonon project?
[15:39] <shadeslayer> c2tarun: no
[15:40]  * bambee is listening heligoland ... lovely... <3
[15:40] <shadeslayer> c2tarun: PIM Stuff and KDE Telepathy
[15:40] <c2tarun> shadeslayer: I tried to propose but they asked for my experience in multimedia and programming on android :( so I thought about dropping plans for GSoC
[15:40] <c2tarun> shadeslayer: anyway what should I write in description of that doodle?
[15:41] <shadeslayer> c2tarun: didn't i tell you alread? :D
[15:41] <shadeslayer> *already
[15:41] <c2tarun> shadeslayer: that was topic for doodle, description?
[15:42] <shadeslayer> ah .. the agenda goes in there
[15:42] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: did you read my phonon proposal?
[15:42] <yofel> bambee: testing kdevelop on mav, otherwise nothing official I think
[15:42] <apachelogger> it features all sorts of graphics ^^
[15:42] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: no.. i'm not a mentor ... so ... 
[15:42] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: show
[15:42] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: it is the public
[15:42] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: linkie
[15:42]  * apachelogger likes to show off his thing
[15:42] <bambee> yofel: It's already backported ;)
[15:43] <yofel> bambee: I said testing :P
[15:43] <bambee> I have finished to backport it this morning :)
[15:43] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/proposal/review/google/gsoc2011/apachelogger/1
[15:43] <bambee> Ohh
[15:43] <bambee> yofel: :D
[15:43] <bambee> ok
[15:44] <shadeslayer> oooh
[15:44] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: nice
[15:44] <shadeslayer> that gives me a idea
[15:44] <c2tarun> shadeslayer: I mailed the doodle, do I still need to update kubuntu-meetings page?
[15:44] <shadeslayer> c2tarun: please do
[15:45] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: porn?
[15:47] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: images inline with proposal
[15:47] <apachelogger> lol, and I thought something awesome :P
[15:47] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: i have a video at the end ... no images tho ... :P
[15:47] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: you just edited raw HTML?
[15:48] <bambee> yofel: I can also help for KDE (however I will test kdevlop anyway) :)
[15:48] <yofel> well, we already release kde, so just hope it works :P
[15:48] <yofel> *released
[15:50] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: I wrote the flipping thing in googel docs :P
[15:50] <shadeslayer> O_)O
[15:50]  * apachelogger actually thinks that should be how that mumbo jumbo works
[15:50] <apachelogger> if I were web developer I would propose a melange project making melange have inter course with the gdata api
[15:51] <bambee> yofel: I mean, I can help on upstream (programming, bugfixes , and so on), so indirectly contribute to kubuntu :)
[15:51] <yofel> ah yeah sure, go ahead ^^
[15:53] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/proposal/review/google/gsoc2011/shadeslayer/1
[15:54] <apachelogger> pr0nz?
[15:54] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: yes
[15:54] <apachelogger> a
[15:54] <apachelogger> h
[15:54] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: didnt I read that already?
[15:55] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: but you didn't comment ... do you haz any comments?
[15:55] <apachelogger> no
[15:55] <apachelogger> me likes
[15:55] <shadeslayer> ooh :)
[15:55]  * shadeslayer hugs apachelogger
[15:55] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: remind me to buy beer for you again @ next UDS i come to ....
[15:55] <shadeslayer> or at the Desktop Summit ... if i make it there
[15:56]  * apachelogger notes that he will be one day late for the DS
[15:56] <apachelogger> my sis is getting married on august 6 it would appear
[15:56] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: congrats :)
[15:56] <apachelogger> well, not me obviously :P
[15:56] <apachelogger> and being late is nothing one needs congratulations on :P
[15:57] <apachelogger> Nightrose: pingo
[15:57] <apachelogger> oh noes
[15:57] <apachelogger> my hone is awayz :(
[15:57] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: the congrats is for her .. not you :P
[15:57] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: what do I do if I am running low on brain juice for KHC?
[15:57] <shadeslayer> yep
[15:57] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: your idea seems solid, only problem, KHC seems dead
[15:57] <shadeslayer> like someone shot it in the head
[15:58] <apachelogger> hence the rewrite :P
[15:58] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: integrate it with nepomuk and/or telepathy?
[15:58] <shadeslayer> like : Oh look! your friend who uses KDE is online, lets ask him!
[15:58] <apachelogger> for starters I would like to have it not be dead :P
[15:58]  * apachelogger does not really know what to write about the impl details
[15:59] <apachelogger> writing a lot there is like pre-designing the app
[15:59] <apachelogger> that is much against my agile attitude
[16:00] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: btw, eean had the terrific idea of putting the tasks of the tentative timeline into stories for a scrum backlog and split according to gsoc eval time lines into iterations
[16:01]  * apachelogger thinks this could go somewhere awesome
[16:01] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: scrum backlog?
[16:01] <apachelogger> scrumdo.com is also pretty nice on that note
[16:01] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: read up on the scrum
[16:01] <shadeslayer> yeah looking
[16:01] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: i also need to read up on Graph Theory
[16:01] <apachelogger> backlog is basically the collection of all stories (read tasks) 
[16:02] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: why?
[16:02] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: because it's usefull in modelling of networks?
[16:02] <shadeslayer> -l
[16:02] <apachelogger> I mean, other than graphs being generally useful and stuff ^^
[16:02] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: how is that?
[16:02] <apachelogger> I mean, you can model just about anything in graphs :P
[16:03] <shadeslayer> yep, but since my domain is going to be networking, i thought it would be helpful to have a idea on how to use them
[16:03] <apachelogger> like world positions in a scenegraph ;)
[16:03] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: so no particular use case yet?
[16:04] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: not really, but it would be useful in the future .. i hope
[16:04] <apachelogger> well, especially with nepomuk in the mix I suppose a good use case will arise :)
[16:05] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: reading this atm : http://www.gladwell.com/blink/index.html
[16:06] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sH0R01gP3m0
[16:06] <apachelogger> wibbly wobbly timey wimey stuff!
[16:06] <shadeslayer> hehe
[16:08] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: what happens if a feature was delayed by a week?
[16:08] <apachelogger> kubotu: order timey wimey detector
[16:08]  * kubotu slides timey wimey detector down the bar to apachelogger
[16:08] <shadeslayer> does scrum still split stuff according to the same timeline?
[16:08] <apachelogger> check it out this is my timey wimey detector ---> SDF@!@%---.
[16:09] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: well, you do scrum
[16:09] <apachelogger> scrum is wibbley wobbly methodology stuff
[16:09] <apachelogger> unlike XP which is extremely precise
[16:09] <apachelogger> anyhow
[16:11] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: if a story did not get implemented within the target iteration that can mean a) the effort estimation was off -> look at other stories, how long did it take compared to their rating -> if off -> evaluate all pending stories again ... b) your too slow -> either get faster or you need to evaluate whether stories can be delayed to later timelines
[16:11]  * shadeslayer notes that there's no Button component in QML .... 
[16:11] <apachelogger> b) in particular would probably mean removing storis/features from the scope fo the gsoc project
[16:12] <apachelogger> at any rate it brings the advantage that it is less likely you will end up with an unfinished unuseful project by the end of gsoc
[16:12] <apachelogger> as both you and your mentor have an idea of how well progress is going, so that appropraite steps can be taken to reduce scope
[16:12] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: does it factor in stuff like pressing engagements that might crop up and force one to not work for a week and put in extra effort the following week
[16:12] <apachelogger> equally scope can be increased if progress is good
[16:12] <shadeslayer> neat
[16:13] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: that is within your range of decision
[16:13] <apachelogger> you say what stories go in what iteration
[16:13] <shadeslayer> ah .. interesting indeed
[16:13] <apachelogger> and you can do this easier because you estimated the difficulty yourself
[16:13] <apachelogger> so you probably should not stuff 2 stories of highest possible difficulty in a 2 weeks iteration of which you know one week will be spent on vacation ;)
[16:14] <shadeslayer> sweet man .... 
[16:14] <apachelogger> but to advertise the general agile approach, as you would have projects for longer than the couple of weeks gsoc lasts you get better values of your overall project velocity
[16:15] <apachelogger> simplest value would be: how many points (i.e. difficulty of story) did you finish within the last couple of iterations
[16:16] <apachelogger> you would probably want to schedule stories that put together result in an equal amount of points for the next iteration
[16:16] <apachelogger> someone please get me some commas ^^
[16:17]  * shadeslayer hands a box full of ',''s to apachelogger
[16:17] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: sounds really neat 
[16:35] <bambee> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usGkq7tAhfc LOL
[16:51] <rbelem> Riddell, 
[16:52] <rbelem> i just upload the new package to revu
[17:03] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: poke
[17:05] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: bingo
[17:06] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: have you seen the progressbar QML mockup?
[17:07] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: the one with the multiple progress bars
[17:08] <apachelogger> no
[17:09] <Daskreech> rickspencer3: ping
[17:09] <rickspencer3> hi Daskreech
[17:09] <Daskreech> rickspencer3: Hello heard that Unity is in question for 11.04?
[17:10] <rickspencer3> Daskreech, well, it was discussed on @-desktop and @-devel
[17:10] <rickspencer3> it looks to not be an issue
[17:10] <rickspencer3> I think phoronix was being, perhaps, a bit sensationalist
[17:10] <Daskreech> rickspencer3: So no longer in question?
[17:10] <Daskreech> rickspencer3: hey. Eyeballs :)
[17:11] <shadeslayer> hmm
[17:11] <rickspencer3> Daskreech, well, we haven't shipped yet, but the trend looks good
[17:11] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: give me a sec okay
[17:12] <Daskreech> rickspencer3: what were the issues at the core of the discussion?
[17:12] <apachelogger> Daskreech: the supremacy of plasma
[17:12] <Daskreech> apachelogger: plasma wins that's not an issue
[17:12] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: one sec is over :P
[17:12] <Daskreech> corona maybe
[17:13] <rickspencer3> Daskreech, I'm sorry, I wish I had time right at the moment to discuss with you, but I have some managery stuff I have to get done
[17:13] <apachelogger> valorie: pingy
[17:13] <rickspencer3> Daskreech, you can read all about it on the list though
[17:13] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://doc.qt.nokia.com/latest/declarative-ui-components-progressbar-content-progressbar-qml.html
[17:13] <Daskreech> rickspencer3: link from the Phoronix article?
[17:13] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: thats what i'm using in combination with : http://paste.kde.org/9231
[17:13]  * Daskreech goes to look for the article
[17:13] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: and then wat happens?
[17:13] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: but  i can't quite figure out why i have multiple progress bar
[17:13] <shadeslayer> *bars
[17:14] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: just from quick looky looky ... everytime a repeater gets created a progress bar gets created too
[17:14] <shadeslayer> oh ...
[17:15] <shadeslayer> whee
[17:15] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: thanks :)
[17:15] <apachelogger> did I ping valorie yet?
[17:15] <apachelogger> ah, I did
[17:15] <shadeslayer> yep
[17:15] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/proposal/review/google/gsoc2011/apachelogger/8001
[17:16] <apachelogger> read and tell me if you likes plz
[17:16] <shadeslayer> 8001 :O
[17:16] <apachelogger> not that it would have any chance to stand against pron in phonon
[17:16] <shadeslayer> people are getting weird url's for their second proposal
[17:16] <shadeslayer> i guess it's based on the day you submit
[17:17] <apachelogger> today is day 8001 of the 15th age of the matrix
[17:18] <shadeslayer> O_O dh: unable to load addon kde: Can't locate Debian/Debhelper/Sequence/kde.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.1 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at (eval 8) line 2.
[17:18] <shadeslayer> someone broke my precious dh
[17:18] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: you read the proposal and dont mess with perl
[17:18] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: more likely pkg-kde-tools is either broken or not installed I suppose
[17:35] <Riddell> apachelogger: you used umbrello! bonus points!
[17:45]  * txwikinger cheers for umbrello
[17:49] <apachelogger> Riddell: also I know how to crash it reliably ^^
[17:55] <rbelem> Riddell, did you take a look in the pkg? :-)
[17:57] <Nightrose> apachelogger: pong
[18:02] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: hmmm ... neat proposal :)
[18:08] <Riddell> rbelem: looking
[18:13] <Riddell> rbelem: hmm, this feels pretty broken
[18:14] <Riddell> rbelem: is it ment to look like this? http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/plasma-mobile.png
[18:16] <Riddell> talking of broken I can't find a way to fix the microblog applet, I think we'll have to not patch it and not have it in the default install
[18:32] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/kde-extra
[19:06] <Riddell> debfx: ping
[19:06] <Riddell> your 2.8.3-3ubuntu5 cmake upload has a debian autogenerated patch in it
[19:07] <Riddell> which i think reverts ubuntu_multiarch_library_directory.diff to an earlier version
[19:38] <valorie> apachelogger: pong
[19:41]  * Daskreech hugs valorie
[19:42] <valorie> {{{{{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} Daskreech
[19:43] <valorie> 15 mins or so until deadline for GSoC submissions......
[19:51] <shadeslayer> valorie: yep
[19:52]  * valorie {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} shadeslayer
[19:53]  * shadeslayer  {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}  valorie back
[19:53] <shadeslayer> valorie: i haz goosebumps
[19:53] <shadeslayer> and also i'm sleepy
[19:54] <Daskreech> What is good for the Goosebumps is good for the Ganderbumps
[19:54] <valorie> well, if your proposal is done, sleep!
[19:55] <shadeslayer> valorie: can't need to study for exam on monday
[19:55] <valorie> we can't announce anything for days -- don't even know how many slots we will get
[19:55] <valorie> more than 50, we hope
[19:55] <shadeslayer> yeah :)
[19:55]  * valorie proscribes sleep-learning
[19:55] <shadeslayer> valorie: hopefully more :P
[19:55] <valorie> or power-napping
[19:55] <shadeslayer> valorie: i've tried .. i just ... keep sleeping once i sleep
[19:55] <shadeslayer> the only way to wake me up is pump me with coffee
[19:56] <shadeslayer> valorie: i was awake during day hours at UDS N just because of coffee
[19:57] <shadeslayer> valorie: going to budapest?
[19:58] <valorie> not sure -- I'm on the wait list
[19:58] <valorie> like last time
[19:58] <shadeslayer> another 2 mins right?
[19:58] <valorie> yes
[19:58] <shadeslayer> valorie: ah .. :)
[19:59] <valorie> counting down in kde-soc
[19:59] <valorie> :-)
[20:02] <shadeslayer> yeah :P
[20:23] <rbelem> Riddell, hum.. i will take a look on that
[20:25] <Riddell> rbelem: well did it look nicer for you when you ran it?
[20:27] <rbelem> Riddell, first time yes, but with  the black background
[20:28] <rbelem> Riddell, did it happen to you too?
[20:29] <rbelem> i will try in the vm
[22:29] <ScottK> Is Klipper plasmified in 4.6?
[22:30] <Riddell> no, it's an application using status notifiers
[22:31] <ScottK> The status notifiers are plasma?
[22:31] <ScottK> I'm trying to narrow down a screen corruption issue and so far it seem just to affect plasma type things.
[22:34] <Riddell> status notifiers get rendered by plasma yes
[22:35] <ScottK> Thanks.
[23:02] <bambee> apachelogger: kcm-grub2 has been accepted into archives finally ? I don't find it
[23:04] <Riddell> bambee: it's still in New
[23:06] <bambee> Riddell: do you mean in the new packages queue ?
[23:06] <debfx> Riddell: interesting, could you remove it?
[23:11] <rbelem> Riddell, it is working fine in the vm
[23:12] <rbelem> Riddell, but without wallpaper
[23:14] <mu3en> works here with wallpaper
[23:16] <rbelem> mu3en, todays build?
[23:16] <Riddell> bambee: yes
[23:17] <bambee> ok
[23:20] <mu3en> no. not today's build. sorry.
[23:21] <rbelem> mu3en, np :-)
[23:31] <rbelem> Riddell, do you know about org.kde.qtextracomponents?
[23:32] <Riddell> rbelem: nope
[23:33] <rbelem> Riddell, i need to find where it lives 
[23:33] <rbelem> Riddell, it is needed by the new plasma-mobile
[23:35] <Riddell> I don't know I'm afraid, maybe e-mail marco martin
[23:35] <rbelem> Riddell, http://is.gd/nbxNGy
[23:36] <rbelem> plasma-components
[23:36] <rbelem> didn't know about that
[23:41] <Riddell> can't get the source it seems https://build.pub.meego.com/package/files?package=plasma-components&project=home%3Amkruisselbrink%3Akde
[23:52] <rbelem> Riddell, https://build.pub.meego.com/package/files?package=plasma-components&project=home%3Amkruisselbrink%3Akde