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AlanBellwas gobby-0.5 inaccessible to orca at some point, or did I just make that up?09:52
UndiFineDI dont know09:57
UndiFineDbut at least we have speaking browsers now09:57
PendulumAlanBell: I thought luke said something about the side panel being inaccessible11:10
AlanBellI thought so too11:26
AlanBellthe gobby developer thinks otherwise11:26
PendulumI saw11:26
PendulumTheMuso: was 'new' gobby inaccessible for you at one point?11:26
UndiFineDwell it was inaccessible during UDS every hour :P11:27
Pendulum(i'm sure he's gone to bed, but at least he can answer when he sees it)11:27
AlanBellI am not too bothered, it would be a pointless argument to get into11:27
AlanBellbut I know the upgrade to gobby-0.5 was done without regard to accessibility concerns that had been raised11:28
Pendulum*nods*11:28
PendulumI wonder if the server is back up :P11:28
AlanBellheh, that was funny11:28
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TheMusoPendulum: Yes the document pane on the left.12:41
PendulumTheMuso: have you tried it more recently?12:41
TheMusoNo12:41
TheMusohaven't had a need to.12:41
Pendulum(wouldn't work now as I think AlanBell crashed the server last night)12:42
AlanBelloops12:42
TheMusoheh12:42
PendulumAlanBell: there's you're answer, though12:42
* UndiFineD hands AlanBell a black hat12:56
AlanBellok, well at least I wasn't dreaming about -0.5 being a bit of an issue, however I am not going to get into a discussion on the devel list about it13:53
Pendulumyeah13:53
AlanBellwebsite review stuff with the design team we talked about yesterday is delayed to Monday apparently14:08
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charlie-tcaYay! sponsorship approved for UDS - O14:46
popeycongrats charlie-tca 14:47
AlanBellexcellent charlie-tca 14:47
leoquantcongrats charlie-tca 15:30
leoquantis there is list of approved members charlie-tca ?15:31
leoquant: https://launchpad.net/sprints/uds-o?15:33
charlie-tcaYes. That is all those who will attend, either physically or remotely15:37
Pendulumcharlie-tca: congrats16:20
pleia2charlie-tca: yay, I'll see you there!17:05
charlie-tcafinally! a chance to meet you17:07
erkan^:-d17:18
* maco wonders if a certain bug will actually be fixed in the next 5 hours17:49
Pendulummaco: that would be great17:51
nigelbouch18:06
maco<ClassBot> nigelb asked: Last cycle Unity had a bunch of issues with accessiblity, how are we doing on that front at the end of this cycle? Are you happy with the pace of things on this front?18:06
maco<dbarth> no18:06
maco<dbarth> i'm not18:06
maco<dbarth> rather18:06
maco<dbarth> i had hoped to have a lot more ready for release time, and we're not totally there18:06
nigelbmy ouch was for that ^^18:06
nigelbmaco beat me to the paste18:06
nigelb17:06 <+dbarth> we do have panel and launcher accessible18:07
nigelb17:06 <+dbarth> we have parts of the dash (particularly alt-f2) working in a branch18:07
nigelb17:07 <+dbarth> but i had hoped to have unity be the default choice for people with disabilities either18:07
nigelb17:07 <+dbarth> instead of that, we'll recommend using the classic session for this cycle18:08
charlie-tcaFinally, an hone18:09
maco<dbarth> i think that it has become the official decision at this point18:09
maco<dbarth> that said, i want to underline the efforts that have been made on the a11y front18:09
maco<dbarth> it was not easy18:09
maco<dbarth> but we've made sure all of the unity building blocks pretty much understand the a11y requirements now18:09
charlie-tcahonest answer?18:09
nigelbYeah, I appreciate that18:09
nigelbAt least better than hollow ones.18:10
charlie-tcayup18:10
hajourcongrats charlie-tca  and pleia2 20:40
charlie-tcaA chance to meet in person is very nice20:40
hajoursee you both's there 20:40
hajourbtw UndiFineD  have removed chromium browser from my eeepc20:41
hajourproblem solved 20:41
charlie-tcaThat should help, even if it is faster than firefox20:42
hajouri can now use pastebin and log in by meetings logs asgain20:42
hajourno its absolute not faster by me20:42
hajouri could not log in by my bank either with chromium browser20:43
hajourframe in frame is really a problem with chromium browser and using lubuntu20:44
hajourcharlie-tca, ^20:48
charlie-tcahajour: at least some of the problems will go away now20:50
hajouryes because now i can finally read the logs i needed to read for my team20:53
hajourgoing back reading logs again :S .  after that i go get some sleep. till tomorrow all21:28
macowoo my trickery worked!21:51
macoso, yesterday, DBO said he would fix the first unity bug mentioned in the channel we were in within 24h21:51
macoso i quickly said https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/73981221:51
ubottuUbuntu bug 739812 in unity "Must use hardware keyboard to perform search for applications in Unity" [Critical,Confirmed]21:51
macohe has a patch21:51
macoit breaks abi so likely will have to be an SRU not on the cd, but still... yay!21:52
charlie-tcawOw!21:52
charlie-tcaWay to go, maco 21:54
macothis is what i was referring to with:   -*- maco wonders if a certain bug will actually be fixed in the next 5 hours21:54
AlanBellthat was a really really good bug to pick21:57
AlanBelloops, I put two past articles back on planet.ubuntu.com22:08
AlanBellI just edited them to put them in a category rather than have them as uncategorised22:08
Pendulumoh well22:12
charlie-tcaGives those who missed them the first time a chance to read them22:20
AlanBellyeah I figured it wouldn't do anyone any harm, but thought I would let you know why they are back on the planet22:26
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pleia2maco: oh yay!23:34
TheMusoThats awesome news.23:57

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