[00:35] <flaccid> smoser: hope you are well. i'm just wondering if there is some easy way to 'find all open/active bugs for lucid kernel in ec2' on launchpad. wanting to see if any are outstanding for the latest AKIs
[00:48] <flaccid> hmm i need a aki locator :)
[02:06] <minorbug> is there any downside of using private ip adresses instead of a public ip range?
[02:07] <flaccid> thats a very broad question. i guess no there isn't, but without context, can't answer
[02:08] <minorbug> thanks for the fast answer, just wanted to check. I'll just test both
[05:12] <koolhead17> hi all
[09:20] <kim0> Morning everyone
[09:22] <kim0> Does Ubuntu plan to be on http://cloudstandardscustomercouncil.org/index.htm ?
[09:22] <kim0> nijaba: ^ morning .. check that out please
[10:09] <nijaba> hello kim0
[10:09]  * nijaba checking now
[10:10] <kim0> nijaba: morning man :)
[10:11] <nijaba> kim0: last I checked, it was a customer org, but I now see Cohesive and Rackspace, so I guess they have changed their rules
[10:11] <kim0> nijaba: and redhat
[10:11] <nijaba> we should definitely look into it
[10:12] <kim0> are you gonna handle that
[10:16] <nijaba> kim0: with pleasure.  would you like to be the alternate contact for it?
[10:16] <kim0> yeah sure
[10:17] <nijaba> kim0: great.  I'll check internally if there is any disagreement, but otherwise will go for it
[10:17] <kim0> awesome :)
[10:47]  * koolhead17 looks at kim0 
[10:48]  * kim0 looks back :)
[10:49] <koolhead17> so kim0 you going to fill that form :P
[10:50] <kim0> Nick will, provided no one else objects somehow
[11:05] <flaccid> kim0: lol that thing looks like a big POS
[11:06] <flaccid> omg this site is a huge fail
[11:07] <koolhead17> flaccid, you will find many similar sites
[11:07] <flaccid> thats unfortunate
[11:07] <koolhead17> there is another one called cloud security alliance
[11:08] <flaccid> lol
[11:09] <kim0> :)
[11:09] <flaccid> i might start one myself. i'll call it Cloud Federation Association
[11:09] <koolhead17> flaccid, its like any tom/dik/harry getting website registered
[11:09] <koolhead17> and start evengelizing
[11:09] <koolhead17> :P
[11:09] <flaccid> yeah
[11:09] <koolhead17> flaccid, lol
[11:10] <flaccid> aka 'speaking shit'
[11:10] <koolhead17> flaccid, +1
[11:10] <TeTeT> hehe
[11:10] <koolhead17> we we will have another security alliance in kitty courtesy flaccid :P
[11:11] <flaccid> its also said that these things have traction in 2011. its no longer 1998.
[11:11] <koolhead17> flaccid, and the best part is M$ AZURE is almost everywer supporting and putting money 4 the events
[11:11] <koolhead17> :P
[11:11] <flaccid> err said=sad
[11:12] <flaccid> azure lol. rightscale has more windows support than azure and is cheaper and across more clouds
[11:12] <flaccid> but hey if they wanna waste their money and claiming to be cloud, thats their problem
[11:13] <koolhead17> hehehe. i have seen there presence as gold sponsor in almost all cloud related event atleast in India, i have no clue about nay other place
[11:14] <koolhead17> the hilarious was we had a developes event where we spoke about NOSQL,Hadoop and eucalyptus still
[11:14] <koolhead17> last 1 hr was a marketing guy from M$ azure explaing the feature of there cloud and how API friendly they are
[11:15] <flaccid> i didn't know there was any features
[11:15] <koolhead17> it was fun session, her laptop was not working and she started with marker explaining how it works
[11:15] <TeTeT> I wouldn't underestimate azure, MS often started with less than stellar products and turned them around to best sellers
[11:16] <flaccid> unfortunately its not 1985 anymore
[11:16] <koolhead17> TeTeT, they are putting money everywhere like penny
[11:16] <koolhead17> :P
[11:17] <TeTeT> or 95, IE vs netscape comes to my mind
[11:18] <koolhead17> TeTeT, we have moved long fromt hat era
[11:18] <flaccid> when you can't dev i guess you put money somewhere
[11:18] <koolhead17> and many more things have come in picture now
[11:19] <TeTeT> I hear you, and hope it stays true ;)
[11:20] <koolhead17> BTW M$ is parter to openstack as well :P
[11:20] <flaccid> you can partner anything with a name or money
[11:21] <flaccid> actually doing something new is a different story
[11:22] <koolhead17> flaccid, yeah myspace VS orkut VS facebook is example
[15:05] <crazed> is ec2ubuntu the only mailing list for cloud-init related things?
[15:06] <kim0> crazed: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/Ubuntu-cloud is also valid
[15:06] <kim0> although if u're running over ec2 ec2ubuntu would be more appropriate
[15:07] <crazed> just wondering, looking for more technical stuff
[15:07] <crazed> like a developer list?
[15:11] <kim0> crazed: well the main cloud-init developer is on both lists ec2ubuntu and ubuntu-cloud
[15:11] <kim0> Just shoot your questions and all will be good :)
[15:13] <crazed> well mostly want to lurk and see development stuff :)
[15:13] <kim0> hehe
[15:13] <kim0> ubuntu-devel might be interesting too .. but that's not cloud focused
[16:03] <minorbug> I read in the docs that each vm need to have one cpu is this right? Can't I run a few more vms on one cpu kernel?
[16:06] <TeTeT> minorbug: you can oversubscribe on CPUS with MAX_CPU parameter in the eucalyptus-conf on the node controller
[16:07] <minorbug> ah perfect
[18:46] <Guest74702> Hi there,
[18:47] <Guest74702> UEC, i want to add an image but evert. it gives an error
[18:47] <Guest74702> what can i do?
[19:01] <kim0> gah why don't people with questions wait
[19:51] <mkrieger> hey all—seeing some sudden instance restarts (with no kernel log/panic info) on 10.04, and heard 10.04 might be the root cause. however, looking at the 10.10 bugs it seems that (at least as of Jan) there were still some rough spots there as well. what are folks building their AMIs with nowadays? (most of our machines are 2xl or 4xl high-mem)
[20:01] <kim0> mkrieger: are you using latest AMIs .. from http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/server/releases/lucid/release-20110201.1/
[20:02] <mkrieger> kim0: we're using ones from january, looks like there's been at least one release since then. would a dist-upgrade have the same effect?
[20:02] <kim0> mkrieger: nope
[20:03] <kim0> mkrieger: Check out https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-cloud/2011-February/000517.html
[20:03] <kim0> mkrieger: After using that new AMI, you can get kernel upgrades via dist-upgrade
[20:03] <kim0> afaik :)
[20:05] <mkrieger> kim0: awesome—had missed those release notes, upgradable kernels from now on sounds great
[20:05]  * kim0 nods :)