| binox | hi all im in ubuntu but searching help on irc about modifying windows system files fro ubuntu hopefully from someone familiar with a windows shell called litestep | 03:16 |
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| binox | i meant im in pa, not ubuntu | 03:16 |
| munz_ | lol | 03:21 |
| munz_ | anyone around? | 03:22 |
| bleeber | whats up? | 03:22 |
| bleeber | im new here but I am around | 03:22 |
| munz_ | lol | 03:23 |
| munz_ | u usin 11.04 yet? | 03:23 |
| bleeber | nah, 10.10 here for now | 03:23 |
| munz_ | cool, i like to have xchat go to my tray | 03:24 |
| munz_ | but in 11.04 w/unity | 03:24 |
| munz_ | trayed apps disappear | 03:24 |
| munz_ | :( | 03:24 |
| bleeber | yeah, I havent even tested unity yet | 03:25 |
| munz_ | hope a fix/workaround comes out soon | 03:25 |
| bleeber | shame on me | 03:25 |
| munz_ | lol | 03:25 |
| bleeber | Im just not buying the hype yet | 03:25 |
| bleeber | maybe once I get it on a box | 03:25 |
| munz_ | i'm trying to be open minded | 03:25 |
| munz_ | but.... | 03:25 |
| bleeber | tried to put it on my eee but it failed (bad burn) | 03:25 |
| bleeber | so meh | 03:26 |
| munz_ | so far like the classic gnome | 03:26 |
| munz_ | lol | 03:26 |
| munz_ | i hve it on an asus 1005hab | 03:26 |
| munz_ | it would be really cool w/a touch screen tablet | 03:27 |
| munz_ | yay! figured it out! | 03:44 |
| munz_werk__ | morning! friday :D | 13:14 |
| mhall119 | morning | 13:15 |
| munz_werk__ | hey mhall119, do you like unity? | 13:16 |
| mhall119 | It's nice, I can probably adjust | 13:17 |
| mhall119 | either that or I'll switch to Xfce | 13:17 |
| munz_werk__ | yea, i'm trying to give it a good try | 13:17 |
| mhall119 | or maybe it's time I get snobbish and switch to FluxBox | 13:17 |
| munz_werk__ | lol | 13:17 |
| mhall119 | there's been an amazing about of work done to Unity in 6 months | 13:18 |
| mhall119 | I'm sure it'll be even more polished by 11.10 | 13:18 |
| mhall119 | but there's still some parts that don't feel natural to me | 13:18 |
| mhall119 | the dash, specifically, doesn't feel useful at all | 13:19 |
| munz_werk__ | yea i feel the same | 13:19 |
| munz_werk__ | i did not like that xchat would disappear in the tray but i fixed it by white listing it | 13:19 |
| mhall119 | nobody's made an xchat message indicator yet? | 13:19 |
| munz_werk__ | guess not | 13:20 |
| munz_werk__ | after the white listing it shows up right | 13:20 |
| mhall119 | try apt-get install xchat-indicator | 13:20 |
| munz_werk__ | drop box too | 13:20 |
| munz_werk__ | ohh ok | 13:20 |
| mhall119 | yeah, Unity is trying to do away with systray, and move everything to indicators | 13:20 |
| mhall119 | xchat-indicator should put an xchat entry into the messaging icon's menu | 13:21 |
| munz_werk__ | do you know why? logically. | 13:21 |
| munz_werk__ | ill try the xchat-indicator tonight when i get back home to my 11.04 | 13:22 |
| maxolasersquad | I've been forcing myself to use Unity, but I feel relieved when I come into work and have Gnome 2 available for me again. | 13:37 |
| munz_werk__ | that sums up how i feel | 13:37 |
| munz_werk__ | i'm only running it on my asus netbook now | 13:38 |
| maxolasersquad | I really like to see the Software Center continue to improve. I'd like to see them put all the functionality of Synaptic and update-manager in there and then remove them. | 13:39 |
| munz_werk__ | maxolasersquad, i agree | 13:55 |
| mhall119 | munz_werk__: from what I hear, the systray was always an ugly hack | 14:19 |
| munz_werk__ | ok | 14:19 |
| maxolasersquad | I've discovered that I am starting to be annoyed evertime something decides to put itself in the systray. | 14:22 |
| maxolasersquad | Dropbox and easystroke are the two that I have demanding a presence in the systray. | 14:22 |
| munz_werk__ | yea, normally dont like a bunch of stuff in the tray but i do like to hit the x on xchat and have it go to the tray | 14:24 |
| munz_werk__ | that was my only issue w/it | 14:25 |
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| tiemonster | Has anyone tried the BETA yet? | 15:53 |
| tiemonster | I can't get it to boot | 15:54 |
| munz_werk__ | yea, i did not have any issues booting | 15:59 |
| munz_werk__ | whats it doin? | 16:00 |
| tiemonster | I'm trying to run it in VBox | 16:00 |
| tiemonster | hangs after the ubuntu with dots screen | 16:00 |
| munz_werk__ | ohh ok, i installed on physical asus eee | 16:00 |
| munz_werk__ | enough mem & processor allocated and such? | 16:01 |
| munz_werk__ | latest vr of vbox? | 16:02 |
| tiemonster | I imagine. half gig of ram? | 16:02 |
| tiemonster | should be | 16:02 |
| Awake_Atlast | the beta of? | 16:04 |
| munz_werk__ | hmmmm... | 16:04 |
| tiemonster | Natty | 16:05 |
| munz_werk__ | tiemonster, check this out http://askubuntu.com/questions/33470/compiling-vboxdrv-virtualbox-4-on-natty-beta-1 | 16:06 |
| munz_werk__ | you may need to update | 16:06 |
| munz_werk__ | wait i read that wrong nm | 16:06 |
| tiemonster | ah yeah - I did install guest extensions. forgot about that. | 16:07 |
| tiemonster | I'll just wait for the release | 16:09 |
| munz_werk__ | cool | 16:09 |
| tiemonster | I just wanted to play with Unity | 16:10 |
| munz_werk__ | yea, i'v been trying to like it | 16:10 |
| munz_werk__ | not sure yet, but atleast i can use "ubuntu classic" if i endup disliking it | 16:11 |
| tiemonster | for day-to-day operations, I have a hard policy of only running LTS releases | 16:11 |
| munz_werk__ | good policy | 16:12 |
| munz_werk__ | im 10.04 @ work, home server, and main laptop, my eee is 10.10 and 11.04 | 16:13 |
| munz_werk__ | dont think i had any complaints about 10.10, but 11.04 and unity.... not sure | 16:16 |
| mhall119 | munz_werk__: use it consistently for a week before you make any final judgement | 16:30 |
| mhall119 | also, they just landed a bunch of fixes and features last night | 16:30 |
| munz_werk__ | mhall119, thats my goal, i dont want to be that guy that hates it b/c its different so i plan on using it at the least till after the RC | 16:35 |
| munz_werk__ | i also keep updating daily | 16:35 |
| munz_werk__ | to stay fresh :) | 16:35 |
| mhall119 | munz_werk__: there won't be an RC this cycle | 16:36 |
| mhall119 | beta is out, the next milestone is the final release | 16:36 |
| munz_werk__ | ok | 16:36 |
| munz_werk__ | then i will run at least till after final release :) | 16:37 |
| crashsystems | I'm loving 11.04 | 16:37 |
| tiemonster | I keep looking for the maximize button on the left-hand side in Windows ;-) | 16:37 |
| mhall119 | tiemonster: it's still there | 16:37 |
| mhall119 | oh, in MS Windows | 16:37 |
| crashsystems | lol | 16:37 |
| mhall119 | yeah, I did that too | 16:38 |
| tiemonster | yeah - I run Win 7 and Ubuntu 10.04 side-by-side | 16:38 |
| crashsystems | Funny how everyone is used to it now, and not to long ago it was all "shuttleworth eats babies because of buttons on the left" and all. | 16:39 |
| mhall119 | lol | 16:39 |
| munz_werk__ | lol | 16:39 |
| mhall119 | I've actually found that I use keyboard shortcuts now | 16:39 |
| crashsystems | the unity shortcuts? | 16:39 |
| mhall119 | regular metacity/compiz shortcuts | 16:40 |
| mhall119 | which still work in Unity | 16:40 |
| crashsystems | I'm really liking meta+[number]. It has mostly replaced alt-tab for me. | 16:40 |
| mhall119 | the one thing I don't like is super+T | 16:41 |
| crashsystems | what does that do? | 16:41 |
| mhall119 | opens the trash | 16:41 |
| mhall119 | but I've had it set to open terminal for a couple of years now | 16:41 |
| crashsystems | I've got one of those drop-down terminals, and have it set to the menu key | 16:42 |
| maxolasersquad | The super button is broken in Unity because it can only be used for the sidebar. | 16:49 |
| maxolasersquad | I am so used to using super+spacebar to open gnome-do. | 16:49 |
| maxolasersquad | And always so sad when nothing happens. | 16:49 |
| munz_werk__ | COOOOOL super key shortcuts are cool :) | 16:50 |
| munz_werk__ | is there a guide or some such? | 16:51 |
| maxolasersquad | munz_werk__: In Natty or before? | 16:53 |
| munz_werk__ | natty | 16:53 |
| munz_werk__ | never really used those shortcuts before | 16:54 |
| crashsystems | http://www.ubuntugeek.com/list-of-ubuntu-unity-keyboard-shortcuts.html | 16:54 |
| maxolasersquad | With Unity just hit Super and then the number of the application on the left. | 16:54 |
| maxolasersquad | I think that's all there is to it. | 16:54 |
| crashsystems | there is more | 16:54 |
| maxolasersquad | Alt-F2 has much of the gnome-do functionality. I'd like to see it have all of the functionality. | 16:55 |
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| crashsystems | I've uninstalled gnome-do since upgrading. | 16:55 |
| maxolasersquad | Cool, thanks crashsystems. | 16:56 |
| munz_werk__ | cool crashsystems that was what i was looking for | 16:56 |
| maxolasersquad | tiemonster: I have the same policy. My work machine, primary home machine, and home pc at home are on 10.04. My laptop is on 11.04. My daughter's machine is on 10.10. | 17:14 |
| tiemonster | I found a machine the other day running 8.04. Old trusty. | 17:28 |
| tiemonster | server, though. big difference. | 17:28 |
| crashsystems | I was in Microcenter (local large electronics store) last week and saw one of their employee workstations running Ubuntu 10.04 desktop. | 17:29 |
| munz_werk__ | where are you crashsystems? | 17:39 |
| crashsystems | santa clara, california | 17:39 |
| munz_werk__ | cool | 17:39 |
| munz_werk__ | i love cali | 17:40 |
| munz_werk__ | hows the job market in santa clara | 17:40 |
| crashsystems | I'm prefering it to North florida, thats for sure | 17:40 |
| crashsystems | not sure. I've not really looked | 17:41 |
| munz_werk__ | what do you do web dev? | 17:41 |
| crashsystems | web application security | 17:41 |
| crashsystems | aka I find the mistakes that web devs make | 17:41 |
| munz_werk__ | lol | 17:41 |
| munz_werk__ | how long you been out there? | 17:42 |
| crashsystems | I started mid november | 17:42 |
| munz_werk__ | you like it? | 17:42 |
| crashsystems | yep | 17:42 |
| munz_werk__ | cool | 17:43 |
| munz_werk__ | i want to move out there | 17:43 |
| crashsystems | there are a number of people from the florida team who have moved out here | 17:45 |
| munz_werk__ | i noticed a few | 17:46 |
| munz_werk__ | did you find the job then move? | 17:46 |
| crashsystems | well, 'find' is not quite the word I would choose, but yes. | 17:47 |
| crashsystems | I had been looking for a job, and a friend who recently had gotten a job here told me about it and gave the department manager my resume. | 17:47 |
| munz_werk__ | cool | 17:52 |
| munz_werk__ | i want to make it out there but im not web dev or app sec | 17:53 |
| munz_werk__ | general it net admin | 17:53 |
| munz_werk__ | deal w/ms crap virusses | 17:53 |
| munz_werk__ | everything not web | 17:53 |
| munz_werk__ | sometimes light html | 17:53 |
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