/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/04/08/#ubuntu-us-mi.txt

jcastrorick_h__: .... and i've gone intel 51003:37
jcastrothe vertex 3 doesn't look /that/ much faster + reliability.03:37
krond0rNight04:19
rick_h__hmmm, do I need the regexp book on the deal today?12:38
rick_h__ugh, how did 1am become the new 4am13:10
rick_h__too old13:10
brousch1am?13:12
wolfgerthat's how13:12
brouschi'm dead if i stay up past 11pm13:13
jrwrenno need for regexp book, master them yourself.13:26
jrwrenalthough an advanced pocket ref would be nice for stuff like zero width look ahead assertion rules that I can never remember13:26
snap-ljrwren: THis is the Mastering REgular Expressions book from O'Reilly13:27
snap-lI'm not sure how you can really master regexes without this book13:27
snap-lhttp://twitter.com/OReillyMedia/status/5624762505324134413:28
jrwrentake a good comp theory course and understand regular languages.13:28
brouschor read a book13:29
wolfgerbooks ftw13:29
wolfgermuch cheaper than courses13:30
brouschand easier than understanding13:30
jrwrenlol13:31
jrwrennow I want to read the book just to see if I get anything out of it and if it really truely covers mastery.13:34
wolfger<shrug> I just have the pocket reference :-)13:37
wolfger...and I certainly don't claim mastery.13:37
snap-ljrwren: You should write a recipe book13:53
snap-l"How to bake a cake, by jrwren"13:53
snap-l"First, start with a cake"13:53
snap-l"Then, you're done"13:54
wolfgerShort book.13:55
brouschpad it with a lot of pictures13:56
wolfgerand coupons for cakes13:56
_stink__rick_h__: oh no, that early?14:04
* rick_h__ zombie today14:04
_stink__yikes14:05
_stink__ /dcc rick_h__ caffeine-stream14:05
rick_h__but good day, hard drives are by the door, 3 install mediums for ubuntu server on hand14:06
rick_h__and desktop is set back up and ready for testing bookie galore14:06
_stink__o/14:06
brouschbookie galore? is that the premium version?14:08
rick_h__hah, yea14:09
rick_h__no, just the EC2 instance isn't up for the task of jenkins with 3 builds for each push14:10
wolfgerLOL. Just got an e-mail from a friend of mine...14:30
wolfger"Did a little poking around on Identica last night. Not only is the traffic very light there, as you noted, the people there are all mentally disturbed. The FOSS community needs teams of specialists to provide them with the kind of mental care that they need."14:30
_stink__hah14:30
snap-lwolfger: Any community of creative folks is one breakdown in need of a shrink14:32
rick_h__hmmm, so my 10.04 server install installed gnome and booted to it?14:34
wolfgerSo says one of those mentally disturbed Identica people... :-D14:34
rick_h__I didn't see that coming14:34
_stink__rick_h__: that's strange.  it's been since maybe 8.04 that i did a server install, but that didn't happen then.14:35
rick_h__yea, I mean it was a nice text installer14:35
rick_h__nvm, wrong disk ugh14:36
rick_h__bah, msised it put it int he downloads folder vs home dir14:36
snap-lrick_h__: I've never seen that before14:37
snap-lrick_h__: Do you need a server USB key?14:38
rick_h__snap-l: no, all good. I just did the second download on the wife's machine and assumed it went into home vs downloads14:38
wolfgerrick_h__ needs a caffeine drip14:38
rick_h__but home already had an old alt-isntall download14:38
_stink__hehe14:38
snap-lI'll make one just in case. :)14:38
rick_h__oh well, desktop install can be a desktop install14:39
rick_h__bah, except it was 32bit install. Ok, a reinstall in my future14:39
snap-lrick_h__: amd64?14:41
rick_h__yea, all good man14:41
rick_h__making new cds14:41
rick_h__the usb should be good since I made them on my laptop14:41
snap-lI'm making a 10.04 AMD64 server key if you need it. :)14:43
rick_h__lol, thanks, but will have two usb and 2 cds so hopefully be good14:43
jrwrensnap-l: i hate recipe books.14:57
jrwrensnap-l: but I really don't know what you are talking about.14:57
jrwrenwhat is the name of that html/js toolkit that is open source and has closed source extensions owned and run by telerik?14:57
snap-ljrwren: You say that the best way to learn regex is to first learn computer theory and languages.15:08
jrwreni never said that.15:09
jrwren"master them yourself" is waht I said.15:09
snap-l08:28 < jrwren> take a good comp theory course and understand regular languages.15:09
jrwrento get to mastery.15:09
jrwrenits a great way to get from intermediate competency to mastery.15:10
snap-lTo become a zen master, first master zen15:10
jrwrenDreyfus model of skill acquisition is fairly well known and understood.15:11
snap-lMaybe we need more jrwrens in this world. ;)15:14
jrwrenplease god no.15:15
wolfgersnap-l: well, that *IS* the path to zen mastery15:21
jrwrenwhat is?15:21
wolfgermastering zen15:22
wolfger[10:10] <snap-l> To become a zen master, first master zen15:22
snap-lhttp://ubuntuone.com/p/lce/15:29
_stink__hah15:30
snap-lGod, I wish Perl had virtualenv16:19
snap-lcpan is such a miserable piece of shit16:19
wolfgerI hate that government is only going to selectively shut down16:25
wolfgercongressmen will still get paid16:26
wolfgerthey won't issue passports, but they will keep the TSA running16:26
binbrainglaring problems with pypi just the same16:26
snap-lwolfger: Oh, you didn't realize that congress gets to be selective?16:26
wolfgersnap-l: just voicing my displeasure16:26
wolfgerthey're doing it all wrong16:26
binbrainhaha, I just sent my passport in for renewal last week16:26
wolfgercongress and the TSA should be the first service to go. They do no good.16:27
binbrainthe only reason I don't care if the gov shuts down16:27
snap-lnow now now, t's only the public-facing pieces of the government that shut down16:28
snap-lservices for the people shut down, not the self-servicing services.16:28
wolfgeryes. Everything *useful* shuts down.16:28
ColonelPanic001if the government shuts down, I presume this means laws are voided. Time to stock up on assault weapons.16:28
snap-lsilly wolfger, if congress shut down, would anyone care?16:28
ColonelPanic001I'd care.16:28
ColonelPanic001you have to care to celebrate16:28
binbrainyeah, total anarchy, start hording16:28
wolfgerColonelPanic001: you beat me to it16:29
ColonelPanic001\o/16:29
ColonelPanic001me ++16:29
snap-lI'll get to read my books by the bonfires16:29
wolfgerindeed16:29
wolfgerIMO, federal govt can go cram itself into the BP oil well16:30
ColonelPanic001solve two problems at once16:30
snap-lPerhaps congress could take up music lessons so they can do a proper fiddling like Nero while the American experiment fails like Rome did.16:30
wolfgersnap-l++16:30
ColonelPanic001on another note, an email just told me that tryouts for the cheerleading squad here are soon16:31
* ColonelPanic001 checks calendar16:31
wolfgerYou have a cheerleading squad? No fair.16:32
* wolfger wants a cheerleading squad16:32
ColonelPanic001work at a university. :)16:33
wolfgerah, the benefits of academia :-)16:33
rick_h__lol, awesome, taking these 200gb drives out of this server16:42
rick_h__with a 160gb boot woot16:42
snap-lrick_h__: You had a 160GB boot drive?16:49
rick_h__yea16:50
rick_h__and three 200gb disks in raid 516:50
rick_h__well by boot I mean /boot and /home16:51
rick_h__just funny that my laptop ssd is as big as this server drive from the past16:51
snap-lAh, OK16:51
snap-lI love reading old books on WSDL:17:26
snap-l"Because of the relatively young age of WSDL as an accepted technology, the mod-17:26
snap-lules and tools available to develop Perl applications with it or based on it are still17:26
snap-lsomewhat scarce17:27
snap-lI can tell you that from 2003-2011, only the age of WSDL has changed.17:30
snap-lholy shit, there's a program for perl called stubmaker that generates the code for you17:35
binbrainwonder how well supported it is17:36
snap-lWe'll find out. :)17:37
jrwrenunless you are in java or .net land, then there is an insane abundance of wsdl tools.17:47
jcastrosnap-l: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWac5UT80no&feature=related20:01
snap-ljcastro: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chiVMrWMHko20:25
snap-lI can think of few things that are more miserable than dealing with SOAP20:51
snap-lSOAP/WSDL20:51
brouschholy crap. i ordered a tablet from tigerdirect yesterday at 3:45PM and it was delivered today at 1:50PM using ups ground shipping20:53
snap-lNice!20:53
snap-lWas that the Archos?20:53
brouschyeah20:53
snap-lAWesome. I'm looking forward to seeing it next time we meet up20:53
brouschwith the current crop of roms i can make it a video-playing tablet with android 1.5 or a more full-featured tablet without video using android 2.120:54
brouschthere may even be a linux distro for it20:54
brouschhttp://www.angstrom-distribution.org/20:56
snap-lheh, very cool!20:56
Milyardohas anyone attempted to get minecraft working on android yet? Its an application wirtten in java and seems like it's be a good game to have on a tablet20:57
Blazeix_Not sure. It beats up my laptop with integrated graphics, though.20:59
Blazeix_So I'm not sure how it would fair on a tablet. Probably require quite a bit of rework.20:59
snap-lGod, who the fuck legitimized using pretty quotes in code samples?21:38
MilyardoNo one?21:40
Milyardoo.O21:40
Blazeix_wordpress?21:41
snap-lHow does anyone get anything done in Java?22:26
snap-lTrying to find a fucking jar file is just fucking impossible22:29
snap-land downloading eclipse is just fucking frustrating22:30
snap-lEclipse IDE for two pepole who give a flying fuck about flying fucking22:30
snap-lhttp://ubuntuone.com/p/lft/ <- fuck me22:32
brouschdamn easy rom install22:53
brouschcopy image file to root, reboot22:54

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