[02:25] <sethly> hey all
[02:26] <Cheri703> hi
[02:29] <Unit193> U-H is now over... (started later)
[02:29] <Unit193> Hello sethly!
[02:29] <sethly> hi :)
[02:35] <Unit193> Shell hosting with Ubuntu!: http://www.nvita.org/free-shells.aspx
[02:49] <dmcglone> Hiya Pals
[02:49]  * Unit193 runs
[02:50] <dmcglone> later gator.. ;-)
[02:50] <Unit193> Hello dmcglone
[02:50] <Cheri703> hey dmcglone
[02:51] <dmcglone> How's that data coming along Cheri703?
[02:51] <dmcglone> Unit193: figure out your problem yet?
[02:51] <Cheri703> slow, have a ton of stuff going on! it's on my list!
[02:52] <dmcglone> I know the feeling :-/
[02:53] <dmcglone> I asked a couple clients for testimonials today
[02:53] <Unit193> dmcglone: I have many problems ;)
[02:53] <Cheri703> :)
[02:54] <dmcglone> I feel ya Unit193 I take crazy pills for mine ;-)
[02:54] <Unit193> dmcglone: It's really crapped, I'm going to be lucky if I can even get data off the HDD
[02:55] <dmcglone> can you use command line to backup
[02:55] <Cheri703> Unit193: can you plug the hdd in to another computer?
[02:55] <Unit193> dmcglone: Things took a turn for the worse...
[02:55] <Unit193> Cheri703: LiveCD hung on mount
[02:55] <Cheri703> I have an adapter that makes it a usb drive
[02:56] <Unit193> So do I... Lubuntu didn't see it (never used the device on that computer)
[02:57] <Cheri703> try it on another?
[02:58] <dmcglone> Unit193: why are you using Lubuntu or Xubuntu?
[02:58] <Unit193> dmcglone: Why are you using Ubuntu?
[02:59] <dmcglone> LOL I'm just asking if there is a perticular reason
[02:59] <Unit193> The lubuntu box can only mostly handle Lubuntu
[02:59] <dmcglone> is there a big difference between the 2?
[03:00] <Unit193> L and X? heck yeah! Ubuntu and Xubuntu have more in common...
[03:01] <dmcglone> I just thought that they were Ubuntu with different apps installed by default
[03:01] <Unit193> Xubuntu uses XFCE by default (not Gnome) Lubuntu uses LXDE
[03:01] <Cheri703> same as how kubuntu uses kde instead of gnome
[03:02]  * Unit193 is waiting 'til 11.04 to reinstall *ubuntu on main
[03:02] <Unit193> I don't know if I'm going with X or K, I like both
[03:04] <dmcglone> this begs the question, whatever happened to lindows?
[03:04] <Unit193> What?
[03:05] <dmcglone> last I heard they had to change their name, but don't remember what they changed it to
[03:05] <dmcglone> that was like 8 or so years ago
[03:06] <dmcglone> Ah it's Linspire
[03:06] <Unit193> Cheri703: Can you plug the IDE to SATA in after boot?
[03:06] <Cheri703> uhm, no
[03:06] <Cheri703> not that I'm aware of
[03:06] <Unit193> Sorry, IDE/SATA to USB
[03:06] <Cheri703> why would you need to do it after boot?
[03:07] <Cheri703> yeah, you can plug the usb in after boot
[03:07] <dmcglone> USB is "hot swappable"
[03:08] <Unit193> Yeah, was just making sure Ubuntu would detect it...
[03:08] <dmcglone> It should
[03:12] <Unit193> sudo fdisk -l |pastebinit > http://paste.ubuntu.com/591057/
[03:22] <dmcglone> Ok all, I'm out.
[03:22] <dmcglone> I'll catch you all later
[03:22] <Unit193> dmcglone: Have a nice night
[03:23] <dmcglone> U too Unit193
[03:36] <canthus13> Unit193: Reinstalled your box yet?
[03:37] <Unit193> canthus13: No, I need data off the HDD first, and I can't seem to read it (I'm starting to think bad HD)
[03:38] <canthus13> Unit193: double-bag it in freezer bags after it cools down. then freeze it overnight and try to grab as much off the drive as you can.
[03:38] <Unit193> canthus13: That was my next plan
[03:38] <Unit193> Thanks for the idea anyway
[03:38] <canthus13> :)
[03:51] <Unit193> I hope to get all of /home and maybe some of /etc
[03:56] <Unit193> canthus13: If you had to guess, how long do you think a freezer would give you?
[04:58] <canthus13> Unit193: Eleventy-seven minutes.
[04:58] <canthus13> Seriously, though, It all depends on the drive.
[07:58] <BiosElement> Ya know, mediawiki is a mess but it brings me comfort at times
[07:58] <BiosElement> When designing my own wiki system, I ran into a pretty big design bug where example.com/pagename?rev=3 would not actually be the third revision for the 'page' but the third revision of all pages on the site.
[07:59] <BiosElement> Here I was trying to think of a fancy solution, and I came up with a couple. Then I wonder what wikipedia does about it since I'm sure they're smarter then me
[07:59] <BiosElement> Answer: Nothing at all, their revision id's are a mess.
[15:39] <Derath-Srvr> :P
[16:29] <canthus13> Ooo... http://www.ugo.com/the-goods/smell-even-more-like-bacon-with-bacon-cologne
[16:42]  * Derath-Srvr smirks
[16:43] <Derath-Srvr> That would drive me insane... would be hungry all day
[16:53] <canthus13> :D
[19:53] <thafreak> Afternoon ohio
[19:53] <thafreak> Finally got around to trying out crunchbang on my netbook...
[19:53] <thafreak> I'm liking it
[19:54] <thafreak> course, I was running fluxbox on lucid on it prior...so it's obviously not too minimalistic for me :)
[19:58] <Unit193> thafreak: Sounds great! You're using the Openbox version?
[20:10] <thafreak> yep
[20:11] <thafreak> it's nice...
[20:11] <Unit193> Switching to debian now? ;)
[20:12] <thafreak> eh, I've typically always had something debian somewhere...
[20:12] <thafreak> but yeah, I kind of like how some projects are shifting to rolling releases using debian...
[20:12] <thafreak> mint debian edition is nice too
[20:13] <Unit193> I have tried some of the Mints, haven't tried that one yet...
[20:15] <thafreak> hmmm...I was almost impressed
[20:15] <thafreak> I inserted an encrypted SD card...and it prompted me for the password to mount it
[20:15] <thafreak> it didn't work...but it's close
[20:16] <Unit193> With the *ubuntus, I have to install the getdeb + launchpad repos
[20:23] <Derath-Srvr> Hey freak, Unit
[20:24] <Unit193> Hello Derath-Srvr! how was/is work?
[20:24] <thafreak> hey Derath-Srvr
[20:24] <Derath-Srvr> Getting there...
[20:24] <Derath-Srvr> Been wondering if it's possible to corrupt a VBox snapshot by loading it too many times
[20:25] <Derath-Srvr> And ya know, I wish there was a "Keep Above/Keep Below" option in Aero... getting tired of not having that
[20:26] <Derath-Srvr> has anyone ACTUALLY heard from spwelton in the last couple months?
[20:28]  * Unit193 only talks to people on here
[20:30] <Derath-Srvr> Only wonder to see if he's still doing Ubuntu Hours... I emailed him and still haven't heard bac
[20:33] <Unit193> Last seen  : Jan 13 02:11:29 2011 (12 weeks, 1 day, 17:21:11 ago)
[20:33] <Unit193> ^^ last freenode login with his user
[20:33]  * Derath-Srvr smirks
[20:34] <Unit193> You're not any type of ReLoCo lead?
[20:34] <Derath-Srvr> For Dayton...
[20:35] <Derath-Srvr> But can't say that I've actually run one... also seems like there are only about 2-3 users in the LoCo that are in my region
[20:35] <BiosElement> Amazing
[20:35] <Unit193> Doesn't say on: http://ohio.ubuntu-us.org/reloco
[20:35] <Derath-Srvr> There's a lot more in my LUG
[20:35] <Derath-Srvr> Yeah I checked that, and I've been removed from Dayton...
[20:35] <BiosElement> Gnome really needs to throw out some loose cannon 'volunteers' who think they're helping. :|
[20:36] <Derath-Srvr> Oh well, no loss there
[20:36] <Derath-Srvr> lol
[20:36] <Unit193> Derath-Srvr: AFAIK leads just show up and make sure everyone is nice
[20:37]  * Derath-Srvr shrugs
[20:38] <Unit193> The Ubuntu Hour I go to isn't even on there...
[20:42] <Derath-Srvr> Hmm... wonder when we'll start the planning for OLF this year, and is it going to be on me again
[20:43] <thafreak> How does the name "Logix Labs" sound?
[20:43] <Derath-Srvr> For?
[20:43] <thafreak> a company
[20:43] <Derath-Srvr> Purpose of company?
[20:44] <thafreak> cool stuff
[20:44] <Derath-Srvr> lol
[20:44] <thafreak> development of solutions
[20:44] <thafreak> to problems
[20:44] <Derath-Srvr> Sales? (Product selling?) Services? etc...
[20:44] <thafreak> sales?
[20:44] <thafreak> that's some one else's problem
[20:44] <Derath-Srvr> So services then...
[20:44] <Derath-Srvr> hmmm
[20:45] <Derath-Srvr> Not bad...
[20:45] <thafreak> services...that's also some one elses problem :)
[20:45] <Derath-Srvr> Development == services
[20:45] <Derath-Srvr> I was trying to figure if the name of the company fit what you wanted the company to do
[20:46] <BiosElement> Out of curiosity, would anyone care for a convore group? It might be a tad more useful for planning events then a mailing list.
[20:46]  * Derath-Srvr shrugs
[20:47] <thafreak> nah, development is not necessarily a service
[20:47] <thafreak> this is more of an incubator...
[20:47] <thafreak> for awesomeness
[20:47] <Derath-Srvr> O.o
[20:47] <Derath-Srvr> Changing the business model on the fly? lol
[20:47] <thafreak> not programmers for higher
[20:48] <thafreak> nah, just developing ideas...
[20:48] <Derath-Srvr> Okay, if incubator, it's good... if you're "providing" development work for people, then it's good, but not best...
[20:48] <thafreak> some one else can figure out how to make money with them...
[20:48] <Cheri703>  sort of like eureka mansion is/was?
[20:48] <thafreak> YES
[20:48] <thafreak> eureka
[20:48] <thafreak> like the bell labs of old
[20:49]  * Cheri703 toured eureka mansion YEARS ago with a gifted kid group
[20:49] <Cheri703> was SWEET
[20:50] <thafreak> wait...this is a place?
[20:50] <Cheri703> it's now "eureka ranch"
[20:50] <Cheri703> http://www.eurekaranch.com/
[20:51] <Cheri703> it was so freaking cool
[20:51] <Cheri703> this was at least 12 years ago
[20:51] <thafreak> soo....what do they do
[20:51] <Cheri703> it's in newtown ohio
[20:52] <Cheri703> it's an "idea" place
[20:52] <Cheri703> at least when I was there, they had rooms full of things to jog imagination and help you look at things differently
[20:52] <Cheri703> look at the site :)
[20:52] <Cheri703> yeah, so it was pre-1997 when I was there
[20:53] <thafreak> too much going on the site...couldn't focus...
[20:53] <Derath-Srvr> And Hi Cheri
[20:54] <Cheri703> hi Derath-Srvr
[20:54] <Derath-Srvr> gilbert, could you get in contact with me when you can? I have a question for you
[20:55] <Derath-Srvr> hope he's got a screen session going or something lol
[20:55] <Cheri703> ah, yes, gilbert I also have a question for you :)
[21:01] <Cheri703> or BiosElement if you're around
[21:02] <Unit193> http://www.unit193.org
[21:08] <BiosElement> Just ask heh
[21:09] <Cheri703> can someone update the ReLoCo page? mansfield's has been happening since december and we're not listed :(
[21:09] <BiosElement> canthus13: Don't you have ReLoCo access?
[21:10] <Unit193> Doesn't Jacob run the site?
[21:10] <Cheri703> I mean on the main website
[21:10] <BiosElement> Not sure
[21:10]  * BiosElement is going to eat, nag me if it's not done when I get back
[21:19] <Unit193> Are they still having U-H in Akron?
[21:31] <thafreak> Dunno, I haven't been to one in akron for a while
[21:33] <canthus13> BiosElement: I have no idea.
[21:34] <canthus13> BiosElement: I have access to the google calendar, but I don't think I can update the page.
[21:40] <Cheri703> http://consumerist.com/2011/04/the-magical-chinese-hard-drive.html
[21:57] <Derath-Srvr> heading home... laters
[21:57] <Unit193> Have a nice one Derath-Srvr!
[21:58] <thafreak> http://blog.adamnash.com/2010/11/29/why-t-shirts-matter/
[22:01] <Cheri703> Oh, so...I figure I'll toss this up in here, with the MAJOR disclaimer that I COMPLETELY understand if you look and say "HA, NO" and apologies in advance if you think it's crappy of me to do so: http://cheri703.chipin.com/uds-stuff
[22:24] <canthus13> Cheri703: I think I posted that drive last night... pretty funny stuff.  I've gotten one of those looped thumb drives before.  I was lucky.. Mine was a 4gb masquerading as a 16gb.
[22:24]  * canthus13 fixed it with the HP flash drive tool.
[22:48] <Cheri703> \o/ I win!
[22:49] <canthus13> eh?
[22:49]  * Cheri703 used the word "Blargh" as the dual factor authorization word for new online banking thing :)
[22:49] <canthus13> HAHA!
[22:49] <Cheri703> had to be at least 6 characters
[22:49] <Cheri703> that was the first thing that came to mind
[22:51] <canthus13> That's awesome. :)
[22:51] <Cheri703> so now every time I log on, it will have an image of the word Blargh :)
[22:51] <Cheri703> and I will chuckle
[22:51]  * Cheri703 is far too amused by this
[22:52] <canthus13> Simple pleasures... :)
[22:58] <Unit193> After the drive is in the freezer for a long time, do you just pull it out and plug it in?
[23:14] <canthus13> Yup.
[23:45] <Unit193> Hello rokkett77
[23:51] <rokkett77> heloo all
[23:51] <rokkett77> hello that is