[00:13] <cyberanger> wrst: what was what
[00:13] <cyberanger> brandonn?
[00:13] <cyberanger> no clue
[00:13] <cyberanger> rough day
[00:15] <wrst> ha ha ok... strange question
[00:15]  * cyberanger has his demons, and knows actions speak louder than words, if I'm that pissed (long long time ago I had that rage) skip cussing, just knock some teeth loose
[00:16] <cyberanger> I can't think of knowing a brandon that well, memphis ip too
[00:16] <wrst> cyberanger: http://204.116.127.107/gnome3quassel.png
[00:17] <cyberanger> so I must presume trying to blow off steam, and not at the source of it (lest the pot continue to boil over)
[00:17] <wrst> yes blowing steam is a good thing, i think you will love as in hate that screenshot :)
[00:20] <cyberanger> there's a saying, he who seeks revenge must dig two graves
[00:20] <cyberanger> and at wildneress school, I knew somebody who took that to heart
[00:20] <cyberanger> dug and dug and dug
[00:20] <wrst> oh my
[00:21] <cyberanger> never acted out his revenge (and it wasn't a literal grave) and it settled his rage
[00:21] <cyberanger> it took him time todo, time that cleared his head
[00:22] <cyberanger> it was something to admire really, his actions really showed he knew anger wasn't something to have
[00:23] <cyberanger> wrst: not bad, can you do that from a terminal, or android (reliably
[00:23] <cyberanger> that is)
[00:28] <cyberanger> THIS IS AN AUTOMATED MSG: TEST
[00:28] <cyberanger> THIS IS AN AUTOMATED MSG: Meeting in one hour
[00:32] <orias> wb
[00:43] <chris4585> thanks
[00:44] <wrst> but its pretty cyberanger
[00:45] <cyberanger> must run
[00:45] <cyberanger> wrst: pretty with a tradeoff though
[00:45] <cyberanger> that script should kick in in 45 minutes, as will the meeting
[00:46] <cyberanger> agenda is release parties (memphis has one may 7th, still in planning)
[00:46] <cyberanger> a thanks for our new webhost
[00:47] <cyberanger> and I have a progress report on an installfest box, which I'll have to postpone
[00:47] <cyberanger> sorry, didn't make it to the wiki yet, mailman should be fixed
[00:47] <cyberanger> but not tested
[00:51] <cyberanger> see you all shortly
[01:14] <cyberanger> THIS IS AN AUTOMATED MSG: Meeting in 15 minutes
[01:20] <cyberanger> THIS IS AN AUTOMATED MSG: Meeting time
[01:21] <cyberanger> that one was off, hrm
[01:24] <cyberanger> must have been a 10 minute warning, goofed on the message
[01:26] <cyberanger> thanks to the G2, I might catch a little
[01:26] <cyberanger> time to go for the moment
[01:29] <cyberanger> THIS IS AN AUTOMATED MSG: Meeting time
[01:41] <cyberanger> guess nobody's here to start it
[01:41] <cyberanger> anyone can
[01:42] <cyberanger> g2g again
[01:53] <wrst> cyberanger: i think its just me... no use starting it for just one i don't think :)
[03:11] <cyberanger> wrst: sounds that way, no pace, no jfenn2199
[03:11] <cyberanger> shame
[03:11] <cyberanger> wrst: the bot worked nicely though
[03:11] <cyberanger> I think I'm gonna code it differently for version 2
[03:12] <chris4585> I was here just nothing I have to really contribute
[03:12] <cyberanger> one that can listen more, have it annoy into a meeting until a command is issued or it hears mootbot
[03:12] <cyberanger> chris4585: well, ok, I do understand
[03:12] <cyberanger> flordia and all
[03:13] <cyberanger> I have to have one this month
[03:13] <cyberanger> reschudle then
[03:13] <cyberanger> dunno why no leader showed besides net, and he resigned
[03:25] <orias> :)
[03:36] <wrst> yes cyberanger the bot was great how did you do that?
[03:40] <robertzaccour> am i late for the meeting?
[03:42] <wrst> a little robertzaccour :) but it is rescheduled
[03:43] <robertzaccour> thats not what the description says
[03:43] <robertzaccour> when is it?
[03:43] <wrst> don't know sometime this month cyberanger will announce it
[03:43] <robertzaccour> oh ok
[03:44] <robertzaccour> description needs updated haha
[03:44] <wrst> but robertzaccour at least you came
[03:44] <robertzaccour> yeah :)
[03:54] <cyberanger> robertzaccour: today 2 and a half hours ago
[03:54] <cyberanger> due to nobody but wrst here (idk why, I had my birthday dinner with family, another member had a family member event too, aside from that idk)
[03:55] <wrst> cyberanger: i finally make it to a meeting and no one shows, that may be a sign :)
[03:55] <robertzaccour> cyberanger, oh i see. im at work now on android
[03:55] <cyberanger> so I will have to reschedule it due to that, perhaps next week, same time
[03:56] <cyberanger> robertzaccour: yeah, I aim to be off on time for it, sometimes I'm late, rare I outright miss it
[03:57] <cyberanger> and rarer it's planned like tonight
[03:58] <cyberanger> wrst: you've been to so many meetings, you and others just have time issues, can't arrive on time (hence the half hour delay, now our new meeting time) gotta leave early
[04:00] <cyberanger> odd to have that happen, but no time is perfect
[04:23] <brandonn> hrmm
[04:24] <brandonn> i didn't even know that there was a meeting today :P  i guess i should take a look at that stuff
[04:24] <cyberanger> yeah, 1st thurs. each month
[04:25] <brandonn> aight, so what does everyone talk about at those things?
[04:25] <cyberanger> and this month we'll have another next week
[04:25] <cyberanger> varies
[04:25] <brandonn> errrm
[04:25] <brandonn> aight
[04:25] <cyberanger> usually planning upcomming events
[04:25] <brandonn> what kind of events ?
[04:26] <cyberanger> install fests, release parties
[04:26] <cyberanger> and such
[04:26] <brandonn> that sounds coo  lolz
[04:27] <brandonn> well im sleepy, so ill be back on tomorrow.
[04:27] <cyberanger> see you then
[04:28] <brandonn> aight.. later
[05:39] <chris4585> ping
[05:40] <cyberanger> cyberanger: pong
[05:42] <cyberanger> chris4585: pong
[05:42] <chris4585> cyberanger, ah thanks, sometimes its really hard to tell if I'm really connected with my internet..
[05:42] <cyberanger> chris4585: no sweat
[13:58] <Xpistos> okay I am actually here today
[14:08] <wrst> wow Xpistos!
[15:56] <orias> o/
[16:56] <Xpistos> my laptop monitor died on me
[16:57] <Xpistos> at least I think it did
[17:08] <orias> 0.o
[17:08] <orias> video out still work?
[17:35] <Xpistos> yes
[17:35] <Xpistos> and when I turn on the box, the Splash screen is lit for a second like the LED backlght is out but I am now sure what I need
[17:43] <orias> well that sucks... sorry
[17:49] <Xpistos> I am tyring to buy another one so I have parts
[17:49] <Xpistos> inspiron 1405
[18:52] <chris4585> Xpistos, ouch I have a 1420n
[18:56] <cyberanger> yikes
[19:05] <Xpistos> get this.
[19:05] <Xpistos> after 3 days with no back led
[19:05] <Xpistos> all of a sudden the led is working again
[19:05] <Xpistos> I shut down and it is still up after I restarted?
[19:06] <cyberanger> hrm
[19:11] <Xpistos> how can I see my partitions and how big I have them
[19:11] <Xpistos> brain fart
[19:12] <Xpistos> and what i labeled them?
[19:15] <chris4585> Xpistos, I use gparted
[19:15] <Xpistos> oh yea
[19:15] <chris4585> you will probably have to install it
[19:15] <chris4585> gparted <3
[19:16] <Xpistos> duh
[19:16] <Xpistos> of course I forgot to label these when I installed, but that is okay I remmber what they are from size now too
[19:16] <Xpistos> thanks chris4585
[19:16] <Xpistos> BRAINFARTED!
[19:17] <chris4585> np
[19:18] <Xpistos> and what is a good rule of thumb for swap anybody
[19:18] <Xpistos> I have 4gb installed and currently have my swap at 2gb
[19:18] <chris4585> eh 2gbs
[19:18] <chris4585> or at least the same amount of ram
[19:18] <Xpistos> So bump it up to 4 gibs?
[19:18] <Xpistos> or 2 is good
[19:19] <chris4585> 2gb is really fine, unless you have a complete freeze
[19:19] <Xpistos> nope
[19:19] <chris4585> ubuntu's installer always does 2x the size of ram I believe though
[19:20] <Xpistos> I custom
[19:20] <Xpistos> put boot alone
[19:20] <Xpistos> put / alone
[19:20] <Xpistos> put home alone
[19:20] <Xpistos> and then use a /data part for my stuff
[21:10] <cyberanger> Xpistos: another command for that is df (I use 'df -h' simplifies things a bit)
[21:11] <Xpistos> gotcha
[21:11] <Xpistos> wow ubuntu ultimate has a lot of crap in it
[21:11] <cyberanger> Xpistos: the old swap rule was double your ram, but I think that's kinda gone out the door lately, due to ram getting above most linux users needs
[21:11] <Xpistos> I don't mean bad crap
[21:11] <Xpistos> I just mean alot of stuf
[21:12] <cyberanger> I still follow that due to hard disc sizes also growing at the same rate, and it doesn't hurt
[21:13] <cyberanger> chris4585: as a rule of thumb, that's what ubuntu did do, on avg.
[21:13] <cyberanger> Xpistos: ubuntu ultimate?
[21:15] <Xpistos> http://ultimateedition.info/
[21:15] <cyberanger> chris4585: I've seen it do some other things too, but they were rare in comparison (and I've not used automated for awhile, prefering to keep /boot a little closer and encrypt the rest)
[21:15] <Xpistos> 2.8 is based on 10.10
[21:16] <cyberanger> Xpistos: I see, intresting
[21:16] <cyberanger> something I do myself though
[21:17] <Xpistos> well i will only have it til the end of the month so
[21:22] <chris4585> cyberanger, well... when I installed ubuntu on my desktop last time it decided to give me 11gbs of ram
[21:22] <chris4585> thats a little redonkulous
[21:24] <chris4585> forgot to mention my desktop has 4gbs of ram
[21:31] <cyberanger> 11GB of swap?
[21:31] <chris4585> yep..
[21:32] <cyberanger> yeah, that might be a step beyond reason
[22:08] <chris4585> I'm not sure if this is normal or not, but I'm using my desktop with the default video drivers, and things seem to be smoother than with the nvidia drivers
[23:18] <cyberanger> depends on the card, the driver, settings
[23:18] <cyberanger> but it can indeed be normal
[23:27] <wrst> chris4585: on ati i have better performance with the open drivers
[23:27] <wrst> on my laptop
[23:31] <cyberanger> same logic
[23:31] <wrst> cyberanger: i didn't realize that until ati dropped support of my card and low and behold the open source one was better
[23:33] <cyberanger> brb
[23:37] <cyberanger> back
[23:37] <cyberanger> wrst: yeah it's a card and driver thing
[23:37] <wrst> yes and varies much by card
[23:37] <cyberanger> usually they code for a reference design out of 5 models and such
[23:38] <wrst> really i didn't realize that the noveau drivers were good enough to do any compositing yet? so i always install the nvidia drivers
[23:38] <cyberanger> and each driver has it's fixes to the reference design, sometimes that's not so helpful for the mobile chip, or the higher end desktop card
[23:39] <cyberanger> sometimes we test FOSS drivers, they don't, it's like playing blackjack with only face cards, you'll never hit 21
[23:39] <wrst> yep but its good to have options when needed
[23:39] <cyberanger> well, working options yes
[23:40] <cyberanger> and that's the thing, you'll never hit 21 the way it's done, you'll either hit 20 or bust
[23:41] <cyberanger> but why hit 21 when the house always wins
[23:43] <cyberanger> (dropping the blackjack bit, what good is perfect when your so close now, and the extra effort is bug fixes, not newer drivers for newer cards, gotta focus on best use of your resources)
[23:50] <wrst> chris4585: hate to say it but after using gnome 3.0 / gnome shell for a couple of days i much prefer it over unity