| === cookie is now known as Guest10341 | ||
| Guest10341 | exit | 01:42 |
|---|---|---|
| Guest10341 | bye | 01:43 |
| lostson | /j #xubuntu-offtopic | 02:42 |
| lostson | oops | 02:42 |
| l4ng1t | i accidentally add new item verve command at top panel | 03:42 |
| l4ng1t | how can i remove it? :( | 03:43 |
| XubuntuKris | anyone know how to open a file in the file system as rw instead of ro? | 05:17 |
| xubuntu078 | soy nuevo en esto quien me ayuda | 05:25 |
| xubuntu078 | quien habla español | 05:26 |
| xubuntu078 | ??? | 05:26 |
| ljsoftnet | how do i upgrade xfce 4.6 to xfce 4.8? | 06:01 |
| Unit193 | ljsoftnet: I would think it's better to wait 'til 11.04 (Natty) | 06:09 |
| ljsoftnet | Unit193 ok | 06:10 |
| ljsoftnet | Unit193 is it safe if i use the koshi PPA? | 06:14 |
| Unit193 | ljsoftnet: Couldn't tell one way or the other | 06:18 |
| ljsoftnet | Unit193 ok | 06:19 |
| ljsoftnet | Unit193 when 11.04 is release, will it upgrade my xfce 4.6 to 4.8? | 06:24 |
| Unit193 | ljsoftnet: If you do a release upgrade (or reinstall), then yes it will | 06:26 |
| ljsoftnet | my panel has issues, when i add "Network Monitor" applet it says "...unexpectedly left...", Execute or Remove if i select Execute nothing happens | 07:23 |
| leoquant | !panel | 07:25 |
| ubottu | Did your panels disappear? Press alt+f2 and run: xfce4-panel | See also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XubuntuPanels | Want to theme your panels? See http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2007/10/12/howto-set-a-background-image-for-your-panel/ | 07:25 |
| ljsoftnet | when i add Network Monitor in my panel it, says "...unexpectedly left..." Execute or Remove, if i click on Execute nothing happens | 07:38 |
| leoquant | ljsoftnet, i am in the proces of updating xubuntu in vmware, so ik can t give support from a xubuntu machine at the moment | 07:51 |
| ljsoftnet | leoquant ok | 07:52 |
| n00ben | . | 12:19 |
| paul__ | newish user here - I have accidentally created a 'Home' folder on my desktop. it doesn't appear to be a link and I can't delete it. If I drag it to the wastebasket all my files from my home folder go there! what's going on any idea? | 13:02 |
| paul__ | if I hover over it it's labelled as 'kind: folder' | 13:05 |
| === thermi is now known as Thermi | ||
| === Pici is now known as Guest95063 | ||
| === Pici` is now known as Pici | ||
| faLUCE | hi. I have installed ubuntu 10.10 on an acer aspire d255 netbook. as soon as I plug the network cable, the mouse pointer has motion problems ... there's a sort of conflict... what could I do? | 16:18 |
| Lord_Rahl | faLUCE, if you think it a conflict change the bios to plug and play OS to NO | 16:24 |
| Lord_Rahl | then the bios will assign the IRQ's | 16:25 |
| faLUCE | Lord_Rahl: but if I set no plug and play, it won't be the plug and play.... | 16:26 |
| faLUCE | I mean: when I connect the cable, I need to restart network communication every time | 16:26 |
| faLUCE | if I set NO plug and play | 16:27 |
| Lord_Rahl | faLUCe, no that just means if it is set to yes the bios doe not set the irq and let the os do it | 16:27 |
| faLUCE | Lord_Rahl: ok, thanks. let's try your tip | 16:28 |
| Lord_Rahl | faLUCE, USB and all pnp device will work just fine | 16:28 |
| Lord_Rahl | i will be here | 16:28 |
| Lord_Rahl | faLUCE, did it work? | 16:42 |
| faLUCE | Lord_Rahl: I couldn't find the plug and play option in the bios ... it's a small bios | 16:51 |
| Lord_Rahl | faLUCE, is it still doing on reboot | 16:54 |
| faLUCE | Lord_Rahl: yes | 16:57 |
| Lord_Rahl | faLUCE, if you plug in a usb mouse does it display the same problem? | 16:58 |
| faLUCE | Lord_Rahl: no problem with the mouse | 17:01 |
| Lord_Rahl | faLUCE, check out this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad | 17:12 |
| Cortex | hi, i was wondering how i could my delete my XP partition and use everything else for Xubuntu? | 17:13 |
| Cortex | it seems i've made my xubuntu partition too small and won't be using XP | 17:15 |
| Cortex | i need to be able to do this without using live cd or usb, don't have any of those with me right now | 17:26 |
| MikeDD | First off, hello to everyone! | 17:48 |
| knome | hello | 17:48 |
| MikeDD | I am pulling my hair out, well rather cussing up a storm | 17:48 |
| MikeDD | I had my external usb hard drive with read-write access enabled | 17:49 |
| knome | please try to keep the discussion family-friendly though ;) | 17:49 |
| MikeDD | some error occurred, and on rebooting I lost write access | 17:49 |
| MikeDD | Iĺl keep my self under control :) | 17:49 |
| paul_ | newish user here - I have accidentally created a 'Home' folder on my desktop. it doesn't appear to be a link and I can't delete it. If I drag it to the wastebasket all my files from my home folder go there! what's going on any idea? | 17:49 |
| paul_ | <paul__> if I hover over it it's labelled as 'kind: folder' | 17:49 |
| paul_ | posted earlier but not resolved any ideas | 17:50 |
| charlie-tca | paul_: it belongs there | 17:50 |
| ochosi | paul_: have you looked at the folder-properties yet? | 17:50 |
| charlie-tca | home is the folder where everything *you* save goes | 17:50 |
| MikeDD | The partition I am trying to re-enable write access to is an hfsplus partition. | 17:51 |
| ochosi | paul_: i assume you have maybe activated the home folder to be shown on the desktop, go to desktop settings > Icons and untick "Home" | 17:51 |
| knome | paul_, (right-click desktop for the desktop settings link) | 17:52 |
| MikeDD | I tried to chmod it, but it keeps saying Read-only.... | 17:52 |
| MikeDD | keeps giving the drive to root | 17:52 |
| MikeDD | I can send my fstab if it helps | 17:53 |
| charlie-tca | pastebin the fstab file | 17:53 |
| charlie-tca | !pastebin | 17:53 |
| ubottu | For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 17:53 |
| MikeDD | !pastebin /etc/fstab | 17:54 |
| MikeDD | ? | 17:54 |
| charlie-tca | http://paste.ubuntu.com | 17:54 |
| MikeDD | do I open it and then copy all text first? | 17:54 |
| charlie-tca | copy the text to that link, it will give you a URL you need to tell us here | 17:55 |
| Rodensky | hello. i'm new to xfce. how do i edit the applications menu? | 17:56 |
| paul_ | thak you that's fixed it...I suspect my daughter was fiddling with things ;) | 17:56 |
| Rodensky | is there something similar to gnome's alacarte? | 17:56 |
| paul_ | I asked that question yesterday Rodensky, 1 sec | 17:57 |
| ochosi | Rodensky: until xubuntu 10.10 you have to do it by hand (edit a file), in 11.04 (released later this month) you can use alacarte | 17:57 |
| MikeDD | http://paste.ubuntu.com/591349/ | 17:57 |
| Rodensky | ochosi, how do i edit it? which file? | 17:57 |
| paul_ | @Rodensky It is in /usr/share/applications | 17:59 |
| ochosi | Rodensky: one sec, i have to dig up the file | 17:59 |
| ochosi | paul_: no, those are only the launcher files | 17:59 |
| paul_ | ah, ok sorry | 17:59 |
| charlie-tca | MikeDD: the way it reads, only the user name "mark" can access those files without being root | 17:59 |
| paul_ | I have another problem - sometimes my wireless connection connects to 'none' rather than the correct connection. There are plenty of other peoples networks visible in the list but 'none' isn't one of them - what's going on there? | 18:01 |
| MikeDD | That is the username I am logging in under | 18:01 |
| charlie-tca | Is that user also in the group "users" ? | 18:01 |
| MikeDD | It keeps giving control over to root and I can´t figure out why | 18:02 |
| ochosi | Rodensky: check out the "How to edit the auto generated menu with the menu editor?" section here: http://wiki.xfce.org/faq | 18:02 |
| ochosi | ah right, that's a bit outdated i guess | 18:03 |
| MikeDD | mark´s group is mark | 18:03 |
| charlie-tca | You can't edit the menu with an editor until natty | 18:03 |
| ochosi | Rodensky: maybe complicated but this is how it works: http://wiki.xfce.org/howto/customize-menu | 18:03 |
| Rodensky | thank you | 18:03 |
| charlie-tca | MikeDD: I would try changing users after gid to mark then | 18:03 |
| MikeDD | I am going to change it, reboot and come back to the channel. | 18:04 |
| charlie-tca | Okay | 18:04 |
| paul_ | what should I do if I get a 404 not found error when trying to install via synaptic? I'm trying to get a Gimp plug-in and would prefer to install via official repo | 18:06 |
| charlie-tca | try reloading with the button on the left, then try again | 18:08 |
| paul_ | tried many times already :( - maybe some sort of maintenance in progress? | 18:08 |
| paul_ | No, I lied... I din't reload first. trying that now.... | 18:09 |
| paul_ | seems to be working :) | 18:09 |
| MikeDD | *sigh*.... | 18:13 |
| paul_ | charlie-tca: thanks, sorry for density at this end | 18:14 |
| MikeDD | ok.. if I type ¨chmod 777 /media/UNTITLED¨, it seems to accept the command, meaning it doesn´t say Read-only... goes to another line and changed nothing.. | 18:15 |
| MikeDD | adding -R changes nothing either | 18:15 |
| charlie-tca | sudo chmod 777 /media/UNTITLED | 18:16 |
| MikeDD | chmod: changing permissions of `/media/UNTITLED_': Read-only file system | 18:17 |
| charlie-tca | sudo in front gave you that? | 18:18 |
| MikeDD | I know it´s me on this one... I had this right yesterday. I wish I could remember what I did that worked in the first place. I thought I wrote down the proper commands.... | 18:19 |
| MikeDD | sudo gave me that.. | 18:19 |
| MikeDD | the drive´s actual label is UNTITLED | 18:19 |
| charlie-tca | Wait a minute | 18:19 |
| charlie-tca | # /dev/sdb3 /media/UNTITLED auto user,uid=mark,gid=users 0 0 | 18:19 |
| charlie-tca | can not work | 18:19 |
| charlie-tca | it is commented out | 18:19 |
| MikeDD | commented out? | 18:20 |
| charlie-tca | you should remove the # in front of the line for it to work | 18:20 |
| MikeDD | omg | 18:20 |
| MikeDD | face palm.. | 18:20 |
| charlie-tca | then you probably need to make it say "auto,user, etc | 18:21 |
| MikeDD | /dev/sdb3 /media/UNTITLED auto,user 0 0 | 18:22 |
| MikeDD | like that? does spacing matter? | 18:22 |
| charlie-tca | no, you want all the options together: auto,user,uid=mark,gid=users | 18:23 |
| MikeDD | should I just take the # out? | 18:23 |
| charlie-tca | or am I confused ? auto is to detect the fs type? | 18:24 |
| charlie-tca | yes, take the # and space out from the front of the line | 18:24 |
| MikeDD | auto to detect the ft, yes | 18:24 |
| charlie-tca | Try without the # and space. See if that works, first | 18:24 |
| charlie-tca | MikeDD: Well, did it work? | 18:37 |
| MikeDD | http://paste.ubuntu.com/591377/ | 18:38 |
| MikeDD | nope | 18:38 |
| MikeDD | changed it to http://paste.ubuntu.com/591377/ settings | 18:38 |
| MikeDD | still mounting for root.. | 18:38 |
| MikeDD | Ahh, the daymare continues... | 18:49 |
| MikeDD | the following does not work.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/591385/ | 18:51 |
| MikeDD | sudo chmod 777 /media/UNTITLED returns a response of Read-only blah blah blah | 18:52 |
| charlie-tca | try sudo chown mark:mark /media/UNTITLED | 18:53 |
| charlie-tca | if you do not own the directory, it won't let you mount it as user | 18:54 |
| ochosi | if it's a dir you need to add "-R" > "sudo chown -R mark /media/UNTITLED" | 18:55 |
| charlie-tca | I didn't want to change all the files, since I don't know who owned them? | 18:55 |
| ochosi | ah | 18:55 |
| ochosi | right | 18:56 |
| charlie-tca | but a user can not mount rw in a root dir | 18:56 |
| ochosi | sry to interfere then :) | 18:56 |
| ochosi | but if it's about ownership of a dir i think you always need -R, no? | 18:56 |
| charlie-tca | no, not unless you want to change ownership of every file | 18:56 |
| charlie-tca | this is a separate drive, I think, and if it is not user owned, I don't to mess it up | 18:57 |
| MikeDD | What is +i? | 19:11 |
| charlie-tca | for IRC it means invite | 19:12 |
| MikeDD | oh | 19:12 |
| charlie-tca | gives an individual voice permissions in a channel that is not open to all | 19:12 |
| MikeDD | ok | 19:12 |
| MikeDD | The most frustrating part, this was working last night... | 19:13 |
| MikeDD | I had full access, write/copy/paste/delete the whole shibang.. | 19:14 |
| charlie-tca | did you try changing owner of /media/UNTITLED ? | 19:14 |
| charlie-tca | what changed since last night? | 19:14 |
| MikeDD | Something happened, but I didnt think to screencap the message | 19:15 |
| MikeDD | I was playing Blender tutorial videos, and it said something about not being able to access.. access violation | 19:16 |
| MikeDD | I changed nothing last night though, all changes happened since I woke up and tried to fix it. | 19:16 |
| charlie-tca | try ls -l and see if root owns every file on the partition | 19:17 |
| MikeDD | sudo chown mark /media/UNTITLED returns this chown: changing ownership of `/media/UNTITLED': Read-only file system | 19:17 |
| charlie-tca | but it let you be owner | 19:17 |
| charlie-tca | now try umount and mount manually, see if it will let it go to rw | 19:18 |
| MikeDD | what is the command to check ownership within the terminal? | 19:18 |
| charlie-tca | ls -l | 19:18 |
| charlie-tca | those are L's | 19:18 |
| MikeDD | sudo umount? | 19:19 |
| charlie-tca | sudo umount /media/UNTITLED | 19:20 |
| charlie-tca | that is an unmount command | 19:20 |
| MikeDD | drwxrwxrwx 2 mark root 4096 2011-04-08 12:22 UNTITLED | 19:20 |
| MikeDD | now it says I am owner in the terminal | 19:20 |
| charlie-tca | owned by mark, in group root | 19:20 |
| MikeDD | chown it again as mark:mark? | 19:21 |
| charlie-tca | sudo chown mark:mark /media/UNTITLED | 19:21 |
| charlie-tca | sudo mount /dev/sdb3 /media/UNTITLED | 19:21 |
| MikeDD | chown: changing ownership of `/media/UNTITLED': Read-only file system | 19:23 |
| charlie-tca | with the drive unmounted? | 19:23 |
| MikeDD | drive is mounted. | 19:23 |
| MikeDD | drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 25 2011-04-05 05:22 UNTITLED | 19:23 |
| charlie-tca | Is this a USB drive? | 19:23 |
| MikeDD | yes | 19:24 |
| charlie-tca | windows files or linux files? | 19:25 |
| MikeDD | mac osx formatted, jounaling disabled | 19:25 |
| MikeDD | hfsplus partitioned | 19:26 |
| MikeDD | at least I think it is hfsplus | 19:26 |
| MikeDD | 99.9% sure | 19:26 |
| charlie-tca | in a terminal, sudo -i | 19:26 |
| charlie-tca | makes you become root, so be careful | 19:26 |
| MikeDD | ok | 19:27 |
| MikeDD | done | 19:27 |
| MikeDD | in as root | 19:27 |
| charlie-tca | try now chown mark:mark /media/UNTITLED | 19:27 |
| charlie-tca | then type exit | 19:28 |
| MikeDD | response chown: changing ownership of `/media/UNTITLED': Read-only file system | 19:28 |
| MikeDD | drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 25 2011-04-05 05:22 UNTITLED | 19:28 |
| MikeDD | Does the fstab come into play at this point? can that conflict with what I am trying? | 19:29 |
| charlie-tca | It still is not allowing you to become owner | 19:29 |
| charlie-tca | not if you umounted the drive and then mounted in terminal | 19:29 |
| MikeDD | ok, I just did the following... typed: umount /media/UNTITLED | 19:31 |
| charlie-tca | you have to sudo it | 19:31 |
| charlie-tca | unless you are still root | 19:31 |
| MikeDD | drwxrwxrwx 2 mark mark 4096 2011-04-08 12:22 UNTITLED | 19:31 |
| MikeDD | I was still root | 19:31 |
| charlie-tca | exit | 19:32 |
| charlie-tca | type exit to get out of root now | 19:32 |
| MikeDD | done | 19:32 |
| charlie-tca | now let's try to manually mount the drive | 19:32 |
| MikeDD | ok, I right clicked and did properties and it says mark is in control | 19:33 |
| MikeDD | now I need to make the fstab changes right? So when I reboot it mounts it correctly? | 19:34 |
| charlie-tca | sudo mount -o rw /dev/sdb3 /media/UNTITLED | 19:34 |
| charlie-tca | try it first manually, if it won't work, fstab will also fail | 19:34 |
| charlie-tca | If you can not manually mount the drive and access it rw, you won't make fstab do it either | 19:35 |
| MikeDD | that mounted it, but gave it back to root being in control | 19:35 |
| charlie-tca | That means all the files on it are owned by root | 19:36 |
| charlie-tca | or by an unknown user | 19:36 |
| charlie-tca | if we make you the owner, I don't know if mac osx will be able to read it | 19:37 |
| MikeDD | Can I put this into the pastebin, the terminal info | 19:37 |
| charlie-tca | sure | 19:37 |
| charlie-tca | you can hilight with the mouse, use either right-click or Ctrl+c to copy it | 19:37 |
| MikeDD | http://paste.ubuntu.com/591401/ | 19:37 |
| MikeDD | oh, and just so you know, EXTERNAL is irrelevant.. it has nothing to do with the UNTITLED | 19:38 |
| charlie-tca | there is a disk in the drive? | 19:38 |
| MikeDD | it is a hard drive | 19:39 |
| MikeDD | UNTITLED is a hard drive, EXTERNAL is a folder I made that has no references to it in any capacity.. | 19:39 |
| charlie-tca | okay | 19:39 |
| MikeDD | I made the folder EXTERNAL earlier in an attempt to make a mount point, but there should be no references to it in the fstab or elsewhere | 19:40 |
| charlie-tca | are you sure you have right partition? | 19:40 |
| charlie-tca | sdb3? | 19:40 |
| MikeDD | sdb3, pretty sure.. | 19:41 |
| charlie-tca | how many partitions on that drive? | 19:41 |
| MikeDD | unless it has to be sdb1? | 19:41 |
| MikeDD | what is the command to list partitions? | 19:41 |
| Unit193 | sudo fdisk -l | 19:42 |
| MikeDD | Disk /dev/sdb doesn't contain a valid partition table | 19:42 |
| charlie-tca | I would guess you should umount again, then mount as /dev/sdb1 | 19:42 |
| charlie-tca | Every partition on a drive gets a number, in sequence starting with 1 | 19:43 |
| MikeDD | mount: you must specify the filesystem type | 19:43 |
| charlie-tca | if there is only one partition, then it is sdb1 | 19:43 |
| MikeDD | I did that before, I think, as sudo mount -t hfsplus /dev/sdb3 /media/UNTITLED | 19:44 |
| charlie-tca | try it, but change that sdb3 to sdb1 | 19:44 |
| Rodensky | hello. i have a wireless network at home but i can't connect to it from my laptop. the system says "device not ready". xubuntu 10.04 newly installed | 19:45 |
| MikeDD | what about the -o rw part? | 19:45 |
| charlie-tca | just use the sudo mount -t hfsplus /dev/sdb1 /media/UNTITLED | 19:46 |
| charlie-tca | sdb3 is empty or non-existent, which is why it doesn't ask for the file type | 19:46 |
| MikeDD | mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb1, | 19:46 |
| MikeDD | as sdb3 it just goes to another prompt | 19:47 |
| MikeDD | sudo mount -t hfsplus /dev/sdb3 /media/UNTITLED returns mark@Yagee:/media$ | 19:47 |
| charlie-tca | at the prompt, with sdb3, what does ls -l /media/UNTITLED give you? | 19:48 |
| MikeDD | root root | 19:48 |
| charlie-tca | any files at all? | 19:48 |
| MikeDD | umounting it via sudo umount /media/UNTITLED and then ls -l turns it back into mark mark | 19:49 |
| charlie-tca | but does mounting it as sdb3 show any files? | 19:49 |
| charlie-tca | even if they are read only, are there any? | 19:50 |
| Rodensky | please help :] i googled my problem but i got too many resaults and couldn't find what i needed :] | 19:54 |
| Unit193 | Rodensky: You know that wireless card works on your network? | 20:00 |
| Rodensky | i had ubuntu 8.04-11.04 and debian installed on this laptop and they all had no problem connecting | 20:01 |
| Rodensky | so yeah, i guess it works | 20:01 |
| Unit193 | Can you check for drivers at Administration -> Hardware drivers (or something like that) | 20:02 |
| Rodensky | i have two broadcom wireless drivers inactivated, one is called B43 and the other is STA. do i need to activate both or only one (and if so- which one)? | 20:04 |
| Unit193 | Is the card USB, PCMCIA, or built-in? | 20:04 |
| Rodensky | built-in | 20:05 |
| Unit193 | I think the command "lspci" will list what it is | 20:06 |
| Unit193 | (I don't have a laptop and my Xubuntu desktop had a HDD failure) | 20:06 |
| Rodensky | i says BCM4312, so i'll try the B43 first | 20:07 |
| Unit193 | Rodensky: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx | 20:08 |
| Unit193 | Does it have ethernet access to internet? | 20:10 |
| Rodensky | yes | 20:10 |
| Unit193 | Did you get it installed? | 20:10 |
| Rodensky | by that list i need to install STA but i can't, it says "installation of his driver failed" | 20:11 |
| Rodensky | three times in a row | 20:11 |
| Unit193 | Go for the B43 (the site seems to have both drivers listed for your device) | 20:12 |
| Rodensky | right now i'm usind the same laptop with the ethernet cable | 20:13 |
| Rodensky | i'm installing the B43 | 20:13 |
| Rodensky | yay | 20:14 |
| Rodensky | it worked. thanks!! :) | 20:14 |
| Unit193 | Sure, anything else? | 20:14 |
| MikeDD | You know what is funny.. | 20:35 |
| MikeDD | when it is not mounted, it says drwxrwxrwx 2 mark mark 4096 2011-04-08 12:22 UNTITLED | 20:35 |
| MikeDD | when I then mount with sudo mount -t hfsplus /dev/sdb3 /media/UNTITLED it says drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 25 2011-04-05 05:22 UNTITLED | 20:36 |
| charlie-tca | Yes, the directory is permanent, but it takes on whatever the partition is when mounted | 20:36 |
| charlie-tca | Rodensky: did you get that working? | 20:36 |
| MikeDD | is there a way to mount it not as root? | 20:36 |
| Rodensky | yes | 20:36 |
| Unit193 | Sweet! | 20:37 |
| Rodensky | i had to restart after the driver was installed and now it works. thank you :) | 20:37 |
| charlie-tca | MikeDD: when you do an ls -l /media/UNTITLED , do you see any files listed? | 20:37 |
| Rodensky | one more question. how do i make a partition automount when the system starts up? | 20:37 |
| charlie-tca | Add it to /etc/fstab | 20:38 |
| MikeDD | brb, another reboot | 20:39 |
| charlie-tca | wait | 20:39 |
| charlie-tca | MikeDD: did you change the auto to hfsplus in fstab yet? | 20:40 |
| Rodensky | is there a gui for that? :] | 20:40 |
| MikeDD | yes, but I didnt reboot yet | 20:40 |
| charlie-tca | Rodensky: nope | 20:40 |
| charlie-tca | MikeDD: you can change owner back to root if it bothers you that it keeps changing like that. Just | 20:41 |
| charlie-tca | sudo chown root:root /media/UNTITLED | 20:41 |
| charlie-tca | will fix it | 20:41 |
| MikeDD | http://paste.ubuntu.com/591428/ | 20:41 |
| Rodensky | ok thanks | 20:42 |
| charlie-tca | MikeDD: gid 0000 ??? | 20:42 |
| charlie-tca | What group is that? | 20:42 |
| charlie-tca | uid 1000 will be mark, but what is 0000 ? Is that a typo? | 20:43 |
| Unit193 | Rodensky: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab | 20:43 |
| MikeDD | probably | 20:44 |
| MikeDD | I will use 1000 instead | 20:44 |
| charlie-tca | Yeah, that should be more right | 20:44 |
| MikeDD | do I need commas at uuid=1000 0 0? | 20:45 |
| charlie-tca | nope | 20:45 |
| charlie-tca | space tells the system it is a new field | 20:45 |
| MikeDD | /dev/sdb3 /media/UNTITLED hfsplus rw,uid=1000,gid=1000,uuid=1000 0 0? | 20:46 |
| charlie-tca | nope | 20:46 |
| charlie-tca | take out that uuid=1000 | 20:46 |
| charlie-tca | uuid is different, that is the great big numbers used on the other lines | 20:47 |
| MikeDD | /dev/sdb3 /media/UNTITLED hfsplus rw,uid=1000,gid=1000 0 0? | 20:47 |
| charlie-tca | yup | 20:47 |
| MikeDD | saving that, and should I reboot the whole machine? | 20:47 |
| charlie-tca | yeah, try it. You can use mount -a in a terminal instead of rebooting, if you umount the drive first | 20:48 |
| MikeDD | it is doing the same thing. | 20:50 |
| MikeDD | when it isnt mounted it says mark mark, when I mount it - it goes to root root | 20:51 |
| charlie-tca | Because the files are owned by root | 20:51 |
| charlie-tca | did you find any files on the drive? | 20:52 |
| MikeDD | when it is mounted | 20:52 |
| charlie-tca | okay, If we make them read write, I don't know if osx will be able to read them anymore. | 20:53 |
| charlie-tca | We can try it, if you want to. | 20:53 |
| MikeDD | I dont care if the mac sees it | 20:53 |
| charlie-tca | in a terminal sudo -i | 20:53 |
| charlie-tca | in a terminal cd /media | 20:54 |
| MikeDD | ok | 20:54 |
| charlie-tca | in a terminal cd UNTITLED | 20:54 |
| MikeDD | done and done | 20:54 |
| MikeDD | done | 20:54 |
| charlie-tca | now, ls -l | 20:54 |
| MikeDD | ok | 20:54 |
| charlie-tca | any file, who owns it? root root ? | 20:54 |
| MikeDD | most are root root, some are 99 99 a couple are mark mark | 20:55 |
| MikeDD | I want them all mark mark | 20:55 |
| charlie-tca | okay | 20:55 |
| charlie-tca | chown -R mark:mark /media/UNTITLED | 20:56 |
| MikeDD | processing them, at the end of each line it says Read-only something.. | 20:58 |
| MikeDD | Maybe it will work..? | 20:58 |
| charlie-tca | If it changes owner, we don't care what it says | 20:58 |
| charlie-tca | now again, ls -l | 20:59 |
| charlie-tca | did it change them all? | 20:59 |
| MikeDD | no | 20:59 |
| MikeDD | drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 56 2011-04-07 09:47 SHARED VIDEO | 20:59 |
| MikeDD | they all stayed the same | 20:59 |
| charlie-tca | I am out of ideas now | 20:59 |
| charlie-tca | exit | 20:59 |
| charlie-tca | get out of root | 20:59 |
| MikeDD | exited | 21:00 |
| charlie-tca | Maybe someone else knows what to try next. | 21:00 |
| MikeDD | trying the original command, that worked previously.. again.. | 21:01 |
| MikeDD | rebooting | 21:01 |
| MikeDD | Apparently my computer thinks that I am not cool enough | 21:15 |
| Unit193 | MikeDD: (I don't know what all you have done) If you boot off a LiveCD can you write to the drive? | 21:18 |
| MikeDD | I dont know if I can | 21:37 |
| MikeDD | havent tried that | 21:37 |
| MikeDD | I imagine that it would be the same, reads it but doesnt write/delete.. | 21:38 |
| MikeDD | havent tried that though | 21:38 |
| Unit193 | It's a long shot at best.... charlie is much smarter about this then I am... | 21:40 |
| MikeDD | ok, here is whats odd.. | 21:40 |
| MikeDD | when not mounted: drwxrwxrwx 2 mark mark 4096 2011-04-08 12:22 UNTITLED | 21:41 |
| MikeDD | when I mount it with, sudo mount -t hfsplus /dev/sdb3 /media/UNTITLED , it says nothing and goes to the prompt | 21:41 |
| MikeDD | then I type ls -l and get: total 0 | 21:42 |
| Unit193 | Again, I have never needed to use a mac HD/USB in linux, all I can do is point to: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/hfsplus | 21:45 |
| Unit193 | MikeDD: http://www.derekdahmer.com/2009/11/mount-hfs-in-ubuntu-live-cd-with-write-access/ | 21:55 |
| MikeDD | trying that route right now | 22:03 |
| MikeDD | I followed their instructions, and root root is still the owner | 22:12 |
| MikeDD | chown doesnt change anything when: sudo chown -R mark /media/UNTITLED is typed | 22:13 |
| MikeDD | it all keeps ending with Read-only... | 22:13 |
| MikeDD | This was working before.. | 22:13 |
| knome | 'sudo chown -R mark:mark /media/UNTITLED' ? | 22:14 |
| MikeDD | i will try that | 22:14 |
| MikeDD | wait a sec, the -o sets owner is in control right? | 22:15 |
| MikeDD | but -u doesnt work, can I set it for user or something? | 22:15 |
| MikeDD | or does -o remove something? | 22:16 |
| charlie-tca | no, -o is options | 22:17 |
| MikeDD | also, under user control settings window within xfce, it had the check mark in group names for me unchecked (so I checked it on) | 22:17 |
| charlie-tca | when manually mounting, it tells mount that everything after the -o to the next space is an option you want used | 22:17 |
| MikeDD | I havent rebooted since checking in that box though | 22:17 |
| charlie-tca | It won't activate until reboot or log out/ login | 22:18 |
| Unit193 | Could #ubuntu help? | 22:18 |
| charlie-tca | possible, or even #ubuntu-beginners | 22:18 |
| charlie-tca | either one can give more help, when we run out of knowledge | 22:19 |
| MikeDD | let me do that as soon as this thing finishes attempting to chown, which I know will fail... :) | 22:19 |
| MikeDD | yeah, I am going to reboot this in a sec and see what is up | 22:19 |
| MikeDD | As soon as I mount it, it switches to root being the owner | 22:34 |
| MikeDD | also, fdisk -l returns nothing | 22:35 |
| MikeDD | sudo fdisk -l results in it saying that /dev/sdb doesn´t contain a valid partition table | 22:37 |
| MikeDD | which I dont see how that can be right... | 22:37 |
| knome | have you tried fsck? :P | 22:37 |
| MikeDD | no not yet | 22:37 |
| knome | probably you should | 22:37 |
| knome | just to be sure that's not it | 22:38 |
| MikeDD | fsck.ext2: Permission denied while trying to open /dev/sdb3 | 22:38 |
| MikeDD | You must have r/w access to the filesystem or be root | 22:38 |
| MikeDD | let me sudo it | 22:38 |
| MikeDD | hfsplus not found? | 22:39 |
| MikeDD | fsck: fsck.hfsplus: not found | 22:39 |
| MikeDD | fsck: Error 2 while executing fsck.hfsplus for /dev/sdb3 | 22:39 |
| charlie-tca | that's possible, it is unable to find the right app for checking the file system, it has to tell you that | 22:40 |
| Sysi | log is too long, what's the original problem? | 22:40 |
| knome | Sysi, can't get write access to hfsplus partition | 22:41 |
| charlie-tca | how to mount the hfsplus drive for read/write | 22:41 |
| charlie-tca | as the user | 22:41 |
| Sysi | hfs+ writing support is experimental, not necessary at all included in ubuntu | 22:41 |
| MikeDD | the following is installed already: hfsplus, libhfsp0, hfsutils | 22:41 |
| Sysi | !hfs | 22:41 |
| ubottu | To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE | 22:41 |
| MikeDD | this isnt installed: hfsutils-tcltk | 22:42 |
| MikeDD | under user settings, mounting user-space wasnt checked | 22:42 |
| MikeDD | should it be? | 22:42 |
| MikeDD | it had (FUSE) next to it | 22:42 |
| Sysi | iirc the possible write support is anyway only for non-journaled hfs, you need to disable it | 22:43 |
| knome | err, most probably fuse needs to be enabled | 22:44 |
| Sysi | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/hfsplus | 22:44 |
| knome | at least you can try it | 22:44 |
| MikeDD | !FUSE | 22:48 |
| ubottu | FUSE (Filesystem in Userspace) is a !kernel driver that allows non-root users to create their own filesystems. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_in_Userspace for more on FUSE. Some examples of filesystems that use FUSE are !ntfs-3g, sshfs and isofs. A full list of Filesystems that use FUSE is here: http://fuse.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/FileSystems | 22:48 |
| MikeDD | !hfs | 22:48 |
| ubottu | To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE | 22:48 |
| Sysi | see that link i gave | 22:49 |
| MikeDD | I checked that one out | 22:50 |
| MikeDD | I will try it again that way | 22:50 |
| MikeDD | reading the gentoo wiki one also | 22:51 |
| MikeDD | according to grep hfs /proc/filesystems I get back hfs and hfsplus | 22:52 |
| MikeDD | rebooting | 23:01 |
| MikeDD | still trying... fun... | 23:07 |
| MikeDD | For some reason, no matter what I change... it wants to mount it as root | 23:09 |
| MikeDD | manually tried mounting it... | 23:13 |
| MikeDD | Looking around for Ashton Kutcher... | 23:14 |
| Unit193 | #ubuntu couldn't help? | 23:14 |
| charlie-tca | Have you tried unplugging the drive and plugging it in again? | 23:14 |
| MikeDD | havent checked there.. | 23:14 |
| MikeDD | turning the drive off.. | 23:14 |
| === Thermi is now known as thermi | ||
| charlie-tca | just a thought... When all else fails, try the things that we know won't help. | 23:17 |
| MikeDD | now it says that sdb3 doesnt exist. | 23:17 |
| charlie-tca | right, you will need to at least logout/login, maybe restart | 23:17 |
| MikeDD | mount: special device /dev/sdb3 does not exist | 23:17 |
| MikeDD | ok, reboot time aaaaahhh yeah! | 23:17 |
| Unit193 | charlie-tca: Can he write/delete files with sudo? | 23:18 |
| charlie-tca | no | 23:19 |
| charlie-tca | same thing, read only mount point | 23:19 |
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!