/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/04/09/#kubuntu-devel.txt

Riddellrbelem: plasmacomponents-0.1_20110305.tar.bz2 isn't a link00:02
Riddellmek would be the other guy to ping, he committed it00:02
* Riddell snoozes00:02
rbelemRiddell, i just downloaded it00:05
rbelemRiddell, https://api.pub.meego.com/public/source/home:mkruisselbrink:kde/plasma-components/plasmacomponents-0.1_20110305.tar.bz2?rev=979e66723ce20d9ac020c95b12b0f767&00:05
rbelemRiddell, it is part of kde-runtime00:09
rbelemRiddell, it is in the branch origin/plasma/declarative00:09
rbelemRiddell, this is the commit that added the code cc1976641ab01b979fee4ee497e01369152ac7c200:13
c2tarunapachelogger: ping01:36
rbelemRiddell, i backported the patches and requested for merge02:29
rbelemRiddell, but it is not installing into the packages yet02:30
c2tarunanyone here who is familiar with android?02:53
c2tarunapachelogger: ping06:26
=== debfx_ is now known as debfx
=== yofel_ is now known as yofel
bambeemorning09:31
* bambee is testing plasma-active live image09:31
RiddellARM compiles are going well :)09:33
Riddellwhat is plasma-active?09:33
debfxhas anyone else noticed that the message indicator sometimes becomes green even though there are no new messages?09:44
bambeeRiddell: see planet-ubuntu, apparently it's a mid-plasma-netbook/plasma-mobile designed for tablets... 09:45
yofelme just now when I wanted to check it, I only use it for u-one, but it got green as soon as I opened the menu and now it stays green...09:46
bambeereally well designed , easy to use and it does not consume too much memory (compared to plasma-netbook)09:47
bambeeRiddell: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GAFfjscVyg10:16
bambeesounds interesting :)10:17
bambeeimo10:17
debfxyofel: weird, after pressing "unlock widgets" it went back to transparent10:23
debfxmaybe it's a problem with plasma not repainting the widget10:28
c2tarunif the latest version of any application is in beta stage but it has some pretty good features, is there any way we can add it into our repository?10:57
c2tarunif the latest version of any application is in beta stage but it has some pretty good features, is there any way we can add it into our repository?11:58
rbelemRiddell, we will get plasma-active with the new plasma-mobile packages :-)13:10
bambeenice :D13:12
c2tarunshadeslayer: ping13:13
bambeerbelem: even if it's still in development ?13:16
rbelembambee, yup. kubuntu-mobile is technology preview13:17
bambeeok13:18
c2tarunbambee: hi 13:19
bambeeplasma-active sounds really interesting and it rocks your socks ! :D13:19
bambees/really/very/13:20
kubotubambee meant: "plasma-active sounds very interesting and it rocks your socks ! :D"13:20
bambeec2tarun: hi :)13:20
c2tarunbambee: nothing to do today? isn't it?13:21
rbelemi think kubuntu-mobile next release will not be technology preview next release13:21
rbelem:-)13:21
bambeec2tarun: I do not know yet.. apparently not13:21
c2tarunbambee: can you tell how can I update my kde to kde 4.6.2? OR If possible a separate new installation.13:22
bambeec2tarun: from maverick ?13:23
c2tarunbambee: yup.13:23
bambeec2tarun: add kubuntu-ppa/backport to your mirrors using "add-apt-repository", you can also add kubuntu-ninjas/ppa since some packages need testing13:27
bambeec2tarun: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports13:28
c2tarunbambee: well I can't test :( I have very slow internet connection and if anything goes wrong, reinstallation and then update takes whole night :(13:28
bambeeohh13:28
bambeeI totally forgot that sorry13:28
c2tarunI'll add backport and then?13:28
bambeesudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -u dist-upgrade (like a normal upgrade)13:29
bambee:)13:29
c2tarunoh.. :)13:30
* bambee also recommends muon :)13:30
rbelemRiddell, ping13:30
c2tarunbambee: this will upgrade my kde to 4.6.2, is there anyway I can do a fresh installation? like sudo apt-get install kde-full or something like that?13:31
c2tarunbambee: ping13:33
bambeec2tarun: a fresh installation is not longer than a upgrade ?13:35
bambeec2tarun: you can also backup your actual system, upgrade it and in case of problems you can revert back your system ;)13:37
c2tarunbambee: well I started upgrade.13:37
c2tarunbambee: hey but its only downloading packages right now. how can I backup my system?13:37
c2tarunbambee: ping13:39
bambeeI am not the best one to ask for that, there are great backup tools on ubuntu13:39
bambeec2tarun: what about your upgrade ?14:24
c2tarunbambee: still going on :/14:24
c2tarun72%  completed14:24
c2tarunwhat version of kde is in kubuntu natty?14:52
tsimpson!info kdelibs5 natty15:03
ubottukdelibs5 (source: kde4libs): transitional package for the KDE Development Platform libraries. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:4.6.2-0ubuntu2 (natty), package size 21 kB, installed size 208 kB15:03
tsimpsonc2tarun: ^15:03
rbelemRiddell, i just updated the patch15:04
rbelemRiddell, i think it is ok now15:04
c2tarun_is it just me or new kde is little bit slow in starting?15:18
=== c2tarun_ is now known as c2tarun
rbelemRiddell, it is still missing libkdeclarative...15:44
=== frederik is now known as fregl
* rbelem starts backporting it15:45
c2tarunshadeslayer: ping16:39
shadeslayerc2tarun: pong16:39
c2tarunshadeslayer: you installed this firefox theme http://kde-apps.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=117962&file1=117962-1.png&file2=117962-2.png&file3=117962-3.jpg&name=Oxygen+KDE+%28Firefox+Theme%29 right?16:39
shadeslayeryep16:41
c2tarunshadeslayer: how? I clicked on the download link of kde apps.org, it installed an addon but its not applied.16:41
shadeslayerc2tarun: afaik you have to restart FF16:41
c2tarunshadeslayer: I tried everything, even restart16:42
shadeslayerc2tarun: whats the problem>16:42
shadeslayerc2tarun: your telling me that it doesn't apply.. does FF look the same as it was before applying the theme?16:43
shadeslayerc2tarun: and go to about:addons and go to Appearance16:43
shadeslayerCheck if the theme is activated there16:44
c2tarunshadeslayer: nope I can say the theme is partially applied, check this16:44
c2tarunhttp://imagebin.org/14735316:44
shadeslayerah16:44
shadeslayerc2tarun: you want the orange ff button?16:44
shadeslayerc2tarun: click on View -> Uncheck Menu Bar16:45
c2tarunshadeslayer: I wanted exactly as in the sample screenshot16:45
c2tarunon kdeapps page16:45
shadeslayeryep .. do what i just said16:45
c2tarunshadeslayer: you mean status bar?16:46
shadeslayerno ... click on View -> Toolbars -> Uncheck Menu bar16:47
c2tarunshadeslayer: I dont have menu bar option http://imagebin.org/14735416:50
shadeslayerc2tarun: what FF version?16:50
c2tarunshadeslayer: the one in 3.6.1616:51
shadeslayeraha16:51
shadeslayerc2tarun: the one in the screenshot is 416:51
c2tarunshadeslayer: this version in repo, how can I update?16:51
bambeec2tarun: Can I add you as friend on facebook ? :)16:52
c2tarunbambee: sure :)16:52
bambee(you can say "no", don't worry ;) )16:52
bambeeok16:52
bambee:)16:52
c2tarunbambee: why would I say no :/16:52
c2tarunshadeslayer: I mean version 4 is not in repo, how can I update?16:53
shadeslayeryeah one sec16:53
bambeec2tarun: well... I do not know :/16:53
shadeslayerc2tarun: https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam16:54
yofelhttps://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-stable to be precise16:54
shadeslayerwell ... depends on what he wants :P16:55
c2tarunbambee: did you find me? because I did not find you :(16:55
bambeec2tarun: there are too many "Tarun Kumar" on facebook 16:57
bambeesee pv16:57
bambeec2tarun: now I will post in french and english on facebook :)16:59
c2tarunbambee: cool :)17:00
ScottKRiddell: New is cleared of Kubuntu related stuff.17:40
c2tarunapachelogger: ping18:06
c2tarunshadeslayer, bambee: you guys ever developed any application for android?18:25
c2tarunI upgraded to kde 4.6.2. its working fine but when I am shutting down, its transferring me to terminal, the same terminal which we get on pressing ctrl + alt +F2. why so?18:35
bambeec2tarun's problem looks very similar to bug 75557019:13
ubottuLaunchpad bug 755570 in Kubuntu PPA "Shutdown Function is not working" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/75557019:13
bambeein this case it's reproducible on natty (for me) and maverick19:13
ScottKAny ideas why clementine is suddenly making empty .po files that the pkgbinarymangler chokes on?19:13
ScottK(now that Artur is gone, I fear no one will look after it)19:14
debfxScottK: it seems to generate these files just as a dependency target19:27
ScottKdebfx: Would you please fix it.  It's FTBFS on all archs at the moment.19:27
debfxcan do, but I won't maintain the package19:28
ScottKFair enough.19:29
ScottKI don't care to maintain it either, but I'd at least to see it buildable for release.19:30
ScottK...at least like to see ...19:30
debfxis comparing the translation lookup result with the original string a very bad way to check if the lookup failed?19:32
debfxhm it should be safe as it will fall back to the original string eventually19:35
debfxScottK: yeah, looking at the archive rebuild result is bit depressing19:37
debfxoh, "For the natty release, do not pass --no-add-needed by default to the linker"19:38
debfxthat's good :)19:38
ScottKFor oneiric a lot of those ought to be fixed in Debian, so it should go a lot better.20:08
ScottKhttp://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-kde-talk/2011-April/001583.html21:16
ScottKApparently shirish has moved on to Debian.21:16
ScottK\o/21:16
ScottKHe was the straw that broke the camel's back with me and the Kubuntu users ML a few years ago.21:16
apacheloggermust you be talking about cigarettes :S21:18
apacheloggerwould you look at that spider: http://www.neatorama.com/images/2006-12/camel-spider-fly-tying.jpg21:19
apacheloggeroh dear21:19
bambeebug 755570 => http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=270228  => a fix has been pushed, so I propose to import the patch for kde-workspace21:24
ubottuKDE bug 270228 in general "kdmrc has as default "/sbin/shutdown -p now" which sysvinit 2 88 don't know" [Minor,Resolved: fixed]21:25
ubottuLaunchpad bug 755570 in Kubuntu PPA "Shutdown Function is not working" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/75557021:25
bambee(if it's not already done)21:25
ScottKbambee: Sounds like a good idea.21:28
bambee:)21:28
bambeeOkay so I import this patch, bump kdebase-workspace, then I paste the debdiff21:30
ScottKBetter attach it to the Ubuntu bug.21:30
ScottKIt would be good if someone could confirm it affect Natty and not just PPAs.21:31
bambeeok21:32
bambeeScottK: I can confirm , I use natty :)21:32
ScottKOK21:33
ScottKPlease update the bug then.21:33
bambeeok21:33
bambeeScottK: for the patch, do I use the "kubuntu" prefix or not ?21:39
ScottKYes.21:40
bambeeok21:40
bambeeScottK: done21:53
ScottKLooking21:55
ScottKManaged to own this laptop for almost an entire week without installing cdbs on it.22:01
ScottKbambee: What version of KDE did you use to make this patch?22:03
ScottKIt doesn't apply against what's current in Natty.22:03
bambeeScottK: I just used commits found in the kde bug22:06
ScottKOK.22:06
bambeeI also refreshed it with quilt22:07
ScottKIt looks a little different with our current package.22:08
ScottKPlease apt-get source kdebase-workspace and then apply your patch.22:08
ScottK(from Natty)22:09
bambeeScottK: "patching file kdm/config.def"22:12
bambeeit's applied22:12
bambee(no conflicts)22:13
bambeeI do not understand... it does not apply for you ?22:14
Mamarokam I the only one having difficulties with CPU load on Natty?22:16
Mamarokand apparently something is blocking the update of grub-pc: debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable22:18
Mamarokthat's all I get in the error line22:18
Mamarokhow can I unlock that?22:18
ScottKbambee: It doesn't.22:24
ScottKbambee: I'll try again22:24
bambeewith kdebase-workspace-4.6.2a-0ubuntu3 it works fine here22:25
ScottKOK.22:25
ScottKMamarok: Is there another process that has a debconf window open somewhere?22:25
Mamarokno, I already checked that22:27
Mamarokand lsof | grep config.dat is running and doesn't give me an output yet, is it normal that takes so long?22:27
ScottKNot sure.22:27
Mamarokshouldn't on a SSD I would presume22:28
ScottKbambee: I do the following:22:28
ScottKI'd guess not22:28
ScottK$ dpkg-source -x kdebase-workspace_4.6.2a-0ubuntu3.dsc22:28
ScottK$ cd kdebase-workspace-4.6.2a/22:28
ScottK$ patch -p1 <../kdebase-workspace-kdm-halt-cmd.diff22:28
ScottK$ quilt push22:28
ScottKApplying patch kubuntu_121_kdm_halt_cmd.diff22:29
ScottKpatching file kdm/config.def22:29
ScottKHunk #1 FAILED at 37.22:29
bambeewtf ? o_O22:29
MamarokScottK: I removed /var/cache/debconf/config.dat, now it hangs on upgrading grub-pc22:31
MamarokI already had hangs with grub PC before on Natty22:31
Mamarokgrub-pc*22:31
ScottKRemoving the debconf database is not generallyl recommended.22:32
MamarokI know, but there was no process locking it22:32
bambeeScottK: http://paste.ubuntu.com/591887/   o_O22:32
ScottKWeird.22:33
bambeewait I forgot quilt push22:33
ScottKMamarok: I'm not sure what else doing that will affect.22:33
ScottKbambee: Looks like I got it beaten into submission.22:34
MamarokScottK: I can still reinstall debconf22:34
ScottKMamarok: sudo dpkg-reconfigure debconf will do it, I think.22:35
bambeeScottK: now quilt push fails22:35
Mamarokwell, currently I can't do anything it hangs on setting up grub-pc as before, interrupting that will bring me back to case a22:35
ScottKbambee: This is the problem I had.22:35
valoriemaybe upgrading to natty on my netbook would be premature, LOL22:36
ScottKvalorie: It's been fine for me, but I'd suggest waiting until Tuesday or Wednesday.  Beta2 freeze is Monday, so if history is any guide some crap is getting uploaded this wekeend.22:38
ScottKMamarok: New kcm-grub (or something very close to that in the archive) maybe it could wrangle it.22:38
MamarokScottK: well, I reconfigured it and now at the third attempt it doesn't hang at the upgrade22:40
ScottKOK.22:40
Mamarokbrilliant, now it hangs at "Replacing config file /etc/default/grub with new version"22:42
ScottKbambee: Uploaded.  Thank you for your contribution to Kubuntu22:42
ScottKSomeone ought to fix the PPA version too.22:43
bambeeScottK: it conflicts with another patch nop ?22:43
bambeeScottK: yw :)22:43
ScottKbambee: No.  I tried applying it first and it still failed.22:43
ScottKLooking at the diff between what applied and what didn't, I don't see the difference.22:43
debfxbambee: if you feel like doing some more cherry-picking, these patches have been recommended on kde-packagers:22:50
debfxhttp://quickgit.kde.org/?p=kdeplasma-addons.git&a=commit&h=4ab9e40e1e3484a4adf059164c91e06d1f5b6b7622:50
debfxhttp://websvn.kde.org/?view=revision&revision=122747122:50
bambeedebfx: sure :)22:52
bambeedebfx: I added them to my todolist, it can wait until tomorrow ? (I am very tired v_v)22:54
bambeeI import them tomorrow morning :)22:55
bambee(+ backport the kdm patch to maverick )22:55
debfxbambee: sure, no need to rush22:57
bambee:)22:57
bambee'night23:22
ScottKdebfx: Thanks for fixing clementine.23:48
Daskreechvalorie: upgrade to Ocelot where we switch out plasma for unity-qt23:49
valoriehaha23:54
valorieDaskreech: it isn't april fools day!23:54
valorieit's my son's birthday, and the anniversary of the day I became a mum!23:55
valoriehappy day!23:55
valorieoff to celebrate it23:55
ScottKCongratulations.23:55
Daskreechvalorie: on the same day! That's so nice! :)23:57
valoriewell, they were sort of inextricably connected23:58
valorierofl23:58

Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!