[00:02] rbelem: plasmacomponents-0.1_20110305.tar.bz2 isn't a link [00:02] mek would be the other guy to ping, he committed it [00:02] * Riddell snoozes [00:05] Riddell, i just downloaded it [00:05] Riddell, https://api.pub.meego.com/public/source/home:mkruisselbrink:kde/plasma-components/plasmacomponents-0.1_20110305.tar.bz2?rev=979e66723ce20d9ac020c95b12b0f767& [00:09] Riddell, it is part of kde-runtime [00:09] Riddell, it is in the branch origin/plasma/declarative [00:13] Riddell, this is the commit that added the code cc1976641ab01b979fee4ee497e01369152ac7c2 [01:36] apachelogger: ping [02:29] Riddell, i backported the patches and requested for merge [02:30] Riddell, but it is not installing into the packages yet [02:53] anyone here who is familiar with android? [06:26] apachelogger: ping === debfx_ is now known as debfx === yofel_ is now known as yofel [09:31] morning [09:31] * bambee is testing plasma-active live image [09:33] ARM compiles are going well :) [09:33] what is plasma-active? [09:44] has anyone else noticed that the message indicator sometimes becomes green even though there are no new messages? [09:45] Riddell: see planet-ubuntu, apparently it's a mid-plasma-netbook/plasma-mobile designed for tablets... [09:46] me just now when I wanted to check it, I only use it for u-one, but it got green as soon as I opened the menu and now it stays green... [09:47] really well designed , easy to use and it does not consume too much memory (compared to plasma-netbook) [10:16] Riddell: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GAFfjscVyg [10:17] sounds interesting :) [10:17] imo [10:23] yofel: weird, after pressing "unlock widgets" it went back to transparent [10:28] maybe it's a problem with plasma not repainting the widget [10:57] if the latest version of any application is in beta stage but it has some pretty good features, is there any way we can add it into our repository? [11:58] if the latest version of any application is in beta stage but it has some pretty good features, is there any way we can add it into our repository? [13:10] Riddell, we will get plasma-active with the new plasma-mobile packages :-) [13:12] nice :D [13:13] shadeslayer: ping [13:16] rbelem: even if it's still in development ? [13:17] bambee, yup. kubuntu-mobile is technology preview [13:18] ok [13:19] bambee: hi [13:19] plasma-active sounds really interesting and it rocks your socks ! :D [13:20] s/really/very/ [13:20] bambee meant: "plasma-active sounds very interesting and it rocks your socks ! :D" [13:20] c2tarun: hi :) [13:21] bambee: nothing to do today? isn't it? [13:21] i think kubuntu-mobile next release will not be technology preview next release [13:21] :-) [13:21] c2tarun: I do not know yet.. apparently not [13:22] bambee: can you tell how can I update my kde to kde 4.6.2? OR If possible a separate new installation. [13:23] c2tarun: from maverick ? [13:23] bambee: yup. [13:27] c2tarun: add kubuntu-ppa/backport to your mirrors using "add-apt-repository", you can also add kubuntu-ninjas/ppa since some packages need testing [13:28] c2tarun: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports [13:28] bambee: well I can't test :( I have very slow internet connection and if anything goes wrong, reinstallation and then update takes whole night :( [13:28] ohh [13:28] I totally forgot that sorry [13:28] I'll add backport and then? [13:29] sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -u dist-upgrade (like a normal upgrade) [13:29] :) [13:30] oh.. :) [13:30] * bambee also recommends muon :) [13:30] Riddell, ping [13:31] bambee: this will upgrade my kde to 4.6.2, is there anyway I can do a fresh installation? like sudo apt-get install kde-full or something like that? [13:33] bambee: ping [13:35] c2tarun: a fresh installation is not longer than a upgrade ? [13:37] c2tarun: you can also backup your actual system, upgrade it and in case of problems you can revert back your system ;) [13:37] bambee: well I started upgrade. [13:37] bambee: hey but its only downloading packages right now. how can I backup my system? [13:39] bambee: ping [13:39] I am not the best one to ask for that, there are great backup tools on ubuntu [14:24] c2tarun: what about your upgrade ? [14:24] bambee: still going on :/ [14:24] 72% completed [14:52] what version of kde is in kubuntu natty? [15:03] !info kdelibs5 natty [15:03] kdelibs5 (source: kde4libs): transitional package for the KDE Development Platform libraries. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:4.6.2-0ubuntu2 (natty), package size 21 kB, installed size 208 kB [15:03] c2tarun: ^ [15:04] Riddell, i just updated the patch [15:04] Riddell, i think it is ok now [15:18] is it just me or new kde is little bit slow in starting? === c2tarun_ is now known as c2tarun [15:44] Riddell, it is still missing libkdeclarative... === frederik is now known as fregl [15:45] * rbelem starts backporting it [16:39] shadeslayer: ping [16:39] c2tarun: pong [16:39] shadeslayer: you installed this firefox theme http://kde-apps.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=117962&file1=117962-1.png&file2=117962-2.png&file3=117962-3.jpg&name=Oxygen+KDE+%28Firefox+Theme%29 right? [16:41] yep [16:41] shadeslayer: how? I clicked on the download link of kde apps.org, it installed an addon but its not applied. [16:41] c2tarun: afaik you have to restart FF [16:42] shadeslayer: I tried everything, even restart [16:42] c2tarun: whats the problem> [16:43] c2tarun: your telling me that it doesn't apply.. does FF look the same as it was before applying the theme? [16:43] c2tarun: and go to about:addons and go to Appearance [16:44] Check if the theme is activated there [16:44] shadeslayer: nope I can say the theme is partially applied, check this [16:44] http://imagebin.org/147353 [16:44] ah [16:44] c2tarun: you want the orange ff button? [16:45] c2tarun: click on View -> Uncheck Menu Bar [16:45] shadeslayer: I wanted exactly as in the sample screenshot [16:45] on kdeapps page [16:45] yep .. do what i just said [16:46] shadeslayer: you mean status bar? [16:47] no ... click on View -> Toolbars -> Uncheck Menu bar [16:50] shadeslayer: I dont have menu bar option http://imagebin.org/147354 [16:50] c2tarun: what FF version? [16:51] shadeslayer: the one in 3.6.16 [16:51] aha [16:51] c2tarun: the one in the screenshot is 4 [16:51] shadeslayer: this version in repo, how can I update? [16:52] c2tarun: Can I add you as friend on facebook ? :) [16:52] bambee: sure :) [16:52] (you can say "no", don't worry ;) ) [16:52] ok [16:52] :) [16:52] bambee: why would I say no :/ [16:53] shadeslayer: I mean version 4 is not in repo, how can I update? [16:53] yeah one sec [16:53] c2tarun: well... I do not know :/ [16:54] c2tarun: https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam [16:54] https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-stable to be precise [16:55] well ... depends on what he wants :P [16:55] bambee: did you find me? because I did not find you :( [16:57] c2tarun: there are too many "Tarun Kumar" on facebook [16:57] see pv [16:59] c2tarun: now I will post in french and english on facebook :) [17:00] bambee: cool :) [17:40] Riddell: New is cleared of Kubuntu related stuff. [18:06] apachelogger: ping [18:25] shadeslayer, bambee: you guys ever developed any application for android? [18:35] I upgraded to kde 4.6.2. its working fine but when I am shutting down, its transferring me to terminal, the same terminal which we get on pressing ctrl + alt +F2. why so? [19:13] c2tarun's problem looks very similar to bug 755570 [19:13] Launchpad bug 755570 in Kubuntu PPA "Shutdown Function is not working" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/755570 [19:13] in this case it's reproducible on natty (for me) and maverick [19:13] Any ideas why clementine is suddenly making empty .po files that the pkgbinarymangler chokes on? [19:14] (now that Artur is gone, I fear no one will look after it) [19:27] ScottK: it seems to generate these files just as a dependency target [19:27] debfx: Would you please fix it. It's FTBFS on all archs at the moment. [19:28] can do, but I won't maintain the package [19:29] Fair enough. [19:30] I don't care to maintain it either, but I'd at least to see it buildable for release. [19:30] ...at least like to see ... [19:32] is comparing the translation lookup result with the original string a very bad way to check if the lookup failed? [19:35] hm it should be safe as it will fall back to the original string eventually [19:37] ScottK: yeah, looking at the archive rebuild result is bit depressing [19:38] oh, "For the natty release, do not pass --no-add-needed by default to the linker" [19:38] that's good :) [20:08] For oneiric a lot of those ought to be fixed in Debian, so it should go a lot better. [21:16] http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-kde-talk/2011-April/001583.html [21:16] Apparently shirish has moved on to Debian. [21:16] \o/ [21:16] He was the straw that broke the camel's back with me and the Kubuntu users ML a few years ago. [21:18] must you be talking about cigarettes :S [21:19] would you look at that spider: http://www.neatorama.com/images/2006-12/camel-spider-fly-tying.jpg [21:19] oh dear [21:24] bug 755570 => http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=270228 => a fix has been pushed, so I propose to import the patch for kde-workspace [21:25] KDE bug 270228 in general "kdmrc has as default "/sbin/shutdown -p now" which sysvinit 2 88 don't know" [Minor,Resolved: fixed] [21:25] Launchpad bug 755570 in Kubuntu PPA "Shutdown Function is not working" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/755570 [21:25] (if it's not already done) [21:28] bambee: Sounds like a good idea. [21:28] :) [21:30] Okay so I import this patch, bump kdebase-workspace, then I paste the debdiff [21:30] Better attach it to the Ubuntu bug. [21:31] It would be good if someone could confirm it affect Natty and not just PPAs. [21:32] ok [21:32] ScottK: I can confirm , I use natty :) [21:33] OK [21:33] Please update the bug then. [21:33] ok [21:39] ScottK: for the patch, do I use the "kubuntu" prefix or not ? [21:40] Yes. [21:40] ok [21:53] ScottK: done [21:55] Looking [22:01] Managed to own this laptop for almost an entire week without installing cdbs on it. [22:03] bambee: What version of KDE did you use to make this patch? [22:03] It doesn't apply against what's current in Natty. [22:06] ScottK: I just used commits found in the kde bug [22:06] OK. [22:07] I also refreshed it with quilt [22:08] It looks a little different with our current package. [22:08] Please apt-get source kdebase-workspace and then apply your patch. [22:09] (from Natty) [22:12] ScottK: "patching file kdm/config.def" [22:12] it's applied [22:13] (no conflicts) [22:14] I do not understand... it does not apply for you ? [22:16] am I the only one having difficulties with CPU load on Natty? [22:18] and apparently something is blocking the update of grub-pc: debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable [22:18] that's all I get in the error line [22:18] how can I unlock that? [22:24] bambee: It doesn't. [22:24] bambee: I'll try again [22:25] with kdebase-workspace-4.6.2a-0ubuntu3 it works fine here [22:25] OK. [22:25] Mamarok: Is there another process that has a debconf window open somewhere? [22:27] no, I already checked that [22:27] and lsof | grep config.dat is running and doesn't give me an output yet, is it normal that takes so long? [22:27] Not sure. [22:28] shouldn't on a SSD I would presume [22:28] bambee: I do the following: [22:28] I'd guess not [22:28] $ dpkg-source -x kdebase-workspace_4.6.2a-0ubuntu3.dsc [22:28] $ cd kdebase-workspace-4.6.2a/ [22:28] $ patch -p1 <../kdebase-workspace-kdm-halt-cmd.diff [22:28] $ quilt push [22:29] Applying patch kubuntu_121_kdm_halt_cmd.diff [22:29] patching file kdm/config.def [22:29] Hunk #1 FAILED at 37. [22:29] wtf ? o_O [22:31] ScottK: I removed /var/cache/debconf/config.dat, now it hangs on upgrading grub-pc [22:31] I already had hangs with grub PC before on Natty [22:31] grub-pc* [22:32] Removing the debconf database is not generallyl recommended. [22:32] I know, but there was no process locking it [22:32] ScottK: http://paste.ubuntu.com/591887/ o_O [22:33] Weird. [22:33] wait I forgot quilt push [22:33] Mamarok: I'm not sure what else doing that will affect. [22:34] bambee: Looks like I got it beaten into submission. [22:34] ScottK: I can still reinstall debconf [22:35] Mamarok: sudo dpkg-reconfigure debconf will do it, I think. [22:35] ScottK: now quilt push fails [22:35] well, currently I can't do anything it hangs on setting up grub-pc as before, interrupting that will bring me back to case a [22:35] bambee: This is the problem I had. [22:36] maybe upgrading to natty on my netbook would be premature, LOL [22:38] valorie: It's been fine for me, but I'd suggest waiting until Tuesday or Wednesday. Beta2 freeze is Monday, so if history is any guide some crap is getting uploaded this wekeend. [22:38] Mamarok: New kcm-grub (or something very close to that in the archive) maybe it could wrangle it. [22:40] ScottK: well, I reconfigured it and now at the third attempt it doesn't hang at the upgrade [22:40] OK. [22:42] brilliant, now it hangs at "Replacing config file /etc/default/grub with new version" [22:42] bambee: Uploaded. Thank you for your contribution to Kubuntu [22:43] Someone ought to fix the PPA version too. [22:43] ScottK: it conflicts with another patch nop ? [22:43] ScottK: yw :) [22:43] bambee: No. I tried applying it first and it still failed. [22:43] Looking at the diff between what applied and what didn't, I don't see the difference. [22:50] bambee: if you feel like doing some more cherry-picking, these patches have been recommended on kde-packagers: [22:50] http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=kdeplasma-addons.git&a=commit&h=4ab9e40e1e3484a4adf059164c91e06d1f5b6b76 [22:50] http://websvn.kde.org/?view=revision&revision=1227471 [22:52] debfx: sure :) [22:54] debfx: I added them to my todolist, it can wait until tomorrow ? (I am very tired v_v) [22:55] I import them tomorrow morning :) [22:55] (+ backport the kdm patch to maverick ) [22:57] bambee: sure, no need to rush [22:57] :) [23:22] 'night [23:48] debfx: Thanks for fixing clementine. [23:49] valorie: upgrade to Ocelot where we switch out plasma for unity-qt [23:54] haha [23:54] Daskreech: it isn't april fools day! [23:55] it's my son's birthday, and the anniversary of the day I became a mum! [23:55] happy day! [23:55] off to celebrate it [23:55] Congratulations. [23:57] valorie: on the same day! That's so nice! :) [23:58] well, they were sort of inextricably connected [23:58] rofl