[00:26] hola [00:27] hello === mirco_ is now known as mirco [00:28] ubuntu: Hello. If you have some question concerning your Kubuntu, just to ask the channel generally, and someone may be able to assist. [00:31] ok thanks. i just want to anybody refere me a chanel to ask something about iphone === ubuntu is now known as joscar [00:33] ubuntu: There is a channel called ##iphone but how helpful it may be, i do not know [00:33] ok thank you ganuu-around [00:34] You're welcome. [00:37] bonsoir tous === Exilant_ is now known as Exilant === mren is now known as mren|off [01:34] real quick, how do I get the grub menu to show up on bootup instad of the kubuntu logo? [01:35] like, is there a key combo I can press on boot? === seidos is now known as kevin6778450 [01:41] it should appear if you press shift before the logo [01:42] Axlin: shift or esc? bah. will try both and hope menu comes up. I just need to do something real quick with it is all [01:42] i always thought it was shift, but it may be escape [01:43] grub1-esc grub2-shift [01:45] ah, good to know [01:45] Axlin: bah..neither worked. [01:46] Try left-shift only [01:46] genii-around: it was left shift [01:46] Alonea: there's a gizmo in system settings to edit the menu after your logged in [01:48] Walzmyn: I just wanted to boot a certain way just this once without having to change grub file, reboot, remember to change it back..etc. I have accidenta;;y brought up the grub menu before...bah [01:48] * Walzmyn nods [01:49] I will try shift again. should I hold it down or just tap it over and over? [01:50] just hold down [01:50] ok, here we go again [01:55] there we go. holding down worked [01:57] checking out E4rat [02:07] wow....e4rat is awesome! [02:07] such a difference === fishwithapipe is now known as f|shy === mirco_ is now known as mirco [03:45] anyone has any idea on this bug - https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=244645 [03:45] KDE bug 244645 in ICal file resource "akonadi_ical_resource became mad, need to kill it" [Crash,Unconfirmed] [03:47] it happens in my system well..what could be going wrong ? === acdc is now known as Guest97623 === DevCore is now known as Guest38549 [04:37] list [04:51] !list [04:51] This is not a file sharing channel (or network); be sure to read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ». [04:51] :) [08:30] hi everyone, has anybody noticed a bug in kontact side bar? it is bug 250138 and is supposed to be fixed. i still have it when i try to change the settings of kontact's sidebar [08:30] Launchpad bug 250138 in compiz (Ubuntu) "compiz crashes with segfault" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/250138 [08:31] Sure about that number? [08:32] http://bugs.kde.org/250138 [08:32] KDE bug 250138 in general "Kontact crashed when switching sidebar options (small to large icons, or, show icons only) (Qt 4 7) [QModelIndex, QSortFilterProxyModel::parent, QPersistentModelIndex::parent]" [Crash,Resolved: fixed] [08:32] correct === MuzerAway is now known as Muzer [09:14] hii? [09:14] hola? [09:15] ole ;P [09:15] alguien habla español? [09:15] skeak spanish? [09:15] speak spanish? [09:15] !es [09:15] En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter. === yofel_ is now known as yofel === Muzer is now known as MuzerAway === Gordon is now known as Guest61258 === chalced is now known as chalcedony === stuart is now known as nx15 === Guest61258 is now known as jeronem === rulyone is now known as makePUSHworkONgl === makePUSHworkONgl is now known as pushdoesntworkon === pushdoesntworkon is now known as pushonglassfish === pushonglassfish is now known as pushonglassfishb === pushonglassfishb is now known as rulyone [10:51] * nxfifteen is away: Gone away for now [11:02] Hello, can somebody help me to compile my code ...... here is the make file and at the end question is given please help me (see here http://paste.ubuntu.com/591664/) [11:27] bfsgfxy [11:27] hi there.. a friend of mine updated his system and now he can't choose 1280x1024 on one of two screens [11:27] he has 10.04.2 LTS [11:43] check the X log to find out why [11:43] manitu: ^ [11:45] hi all [11:46] hello [11:50] moetunes, "Falling back to old probe method for vesa", ".. for fbdev" and "/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic" does not exists [11:50] that are all WW, rest is II, -- and ** [11:52] manitu: check the part where it tells about the monitors [11:53] oh "No monitor specified for screen "Configured Screen Device". Using a default monitor configuration" .. how to change it? :o [11:53] and the outputs have no monitor section [11:54] its really strange because it was running on 1280x1024 all the time before updating [11:54] for months [11:55] (is it normal that it uses the radeon driver?) [12:01] around the middle of the X log it will tell of the resolutions it can use for the monitors - if he was using the proprietry driver he might need to reinstall it [12:01] bbiab [12:16] Can anyone tell me where i should put an .vimrc file? I dont know what path it should have === nielsslot_ is now known as nielsslot [12:44] 'Morning === postal is now known as Guest43542 [12:49] BluesKaj: hey [12:49] BluesKaj: back from skydive [12:50] hi peacelive . back from dreamland :) [12:50] BluesKaj: :P [12:50] skydiver eh ... cazy :) [12:51] crazy [12:51] yep :D [13:08] Hi, I have an acer aspire 5742 and i have problems with powersafe. I think it always works at performance state and I can make it go to powersafing mode [13:21] Hi, I have an acer aspire 5742 and i have problems with powersafe. I think it always works at performance state and I can make it go to powersafing mode [13:22] it's i5 processor === massimo is now known as Guest77413 [15:03] hello [15:03] I have a problem houston [15:04] ok so, yesterday everything is wonderful. I do some auto updates in ubuntu 10.04. I turn off the computer and later when I turn it back on... GNOME no longer works correctly! KDE is good.. How do I repair gnome? === mren|off is now known as mren === c2tarun_ is now known as c2tarun [15:45] день добрый === chris_ is now known as Guest94124 [16:20] есть кто живой? [16:25] !ru | Pante59 [16:25] Pante59: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке / Pozhalujsta posetite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke [16:37] hello [16:37] any expert ubuntu users around? [16:38] !ask [16:38] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [16:38] depends on defination :) [16:38] alrighty [16:38] here goes... [16:38] i have ubuntu 10.04 [16:38] I ran some auto updates [16:39] now when I log into GNOME everything hangs. KDE works fine. I tried logging in as another user, gnome hangs for that user too. Gnome apps work in kde... I want to fix gnome but I have no idea where to start. [16:41] chris__: have you tried #ubnutu - most here don't use gnome [16:42] walz Ah, sorry about that. I tried them, they had no idea. [16:42] well where would the logs be found on ubuntu that I can start looking through for desktops? [16:46] almost all logs are in /var/log [16:47] is there a command that I can use to search for and fix broken packages? [16:49] sudo apt-get -f install [16:50] what is weird is that im looking at synaptic now... and gnome is unchecked.... [16:50] although the libraries are all there' [16:57] check to see the ubuntu-desktop package is installed. [17:29] chris stypid [17:47] I just installed a different windowing manager, and when I attempt to login my machine freezes at the login splash screen (which reads "kubuntu"). Is there some way to preempt the loading of the window manager at startup so that I access my machine via a command line? [17:49] cole_: if you want command line why do you need a window manager? use the vertual terminals (alt+crtl+F1...6 at kdm) [17:50] Cole. KDM is the display manager, which provides the graphical login. If you disable it, you will boot to a command line session and can start X from there. [17:50] ^^ or you can force a commandline boot by appending 3 to the end of the boot line (such as with: http://www.brunolinux.com/05-Configuring_Your_System/Grub_boot_runlevel-3.html) [18:04] cole_: Don't login ? [18:05] Right. Instead of logging in, press CTL-ALT-F1 to go to a virtual terminal. Any F key, from 1 to 6, will do. [18:07] I pressed Ctrl-Alt-F1 and I'm now working in a terminal. Where would I edit the settings which tells Kubuntu which window manager to load by default? [18:09] You could just delete the foreign wm you installed. From the command line, "sudo apt-get remove " [18:10] What command would you issue to restart a kde session [18:11] If the display manager is still running, press ALT-F7 to go back. === jasmine is now known as Guest86858 [18:13] I want to restart it [18:14] Go back to the DM session and press ALT-E . Or choose "Restart X server" from one of the pick list options there. [18:15] cole_, sudo service kdm (re)start [18:17] BluesKaj: natty kernel 2.6.38 swap 700mb :S [18:17] 700 only peacelive ? [18:17] well , on maverick i get 0 [18:18] I have only 3G Ram on this pc ...never seen the swap used even during heavy loads like movies and DLs at once [18:19] BluesKaj: i have 1 gig [18:19] xD [18:19] i will upgrade soon [18:19] anyway i think it's a bug [18:19] never seen 250 of ram and 700 of swap [18:19] bah [18:20] BluesKaj: bye ==> i'll eat something it's 7.20 pm [18:21] yeah, time to get going here too ..see you guys tomorrow [18:30] Every time I start my kubuntu machine, I have to reconfigure it to use both of my monitors. Is there somewhere where I can edit these settings once without having to reset them on startup? [18:32] cole_: the 2 ways I've solved that are through the ATI catalyst control center (if you're using ATI) or my manually creating an xorg.conf [18:33] not nice I know, but it's the only way I've done it [18:34] marxjohnson: where do you put the xorg.conf? Where did you find the specs/template for writing this file? [18:36] Cole: what video card do you have? [18:37] !xinerama [18:37] xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead [18:37] !dualhead [18:37] Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama [18:37] cole_: it's /etc/X11/xorg.conf [18:37] man xorg.conf will give you the docs, but you'll probably want to google for an example of a set up with similar hardware to yours [18:38] Screwing around with xorg.conf is not for the faint of heart! === massimo is now known as Guest88090 === Paulw2U is now known as PaulW2U === PaulW2U is now known as Paulw2U === Paulw2U is now known as PaulW2U === PaulW2U is now known as Paulw2U [19:28] cole_: you can go to default applications and choose another wm [19:35] I don't have a 'xorg.conf' file at all. Is there some way to auto generate it> [19:35] It should be located in /etc/X11/xorg.conf but there's nothing there/ [19:36] cole_: There is no file. X auto assumes what's in there. If you make one the it will obey it [19:37] Daskreech: Do you know where there's a template for creating xorg.conf? [19:37] cole_: What Video card do you have? [19:38] nvidia [19:38] 8800GT [19:39] Can somone confirm that I can run my PCI Express 2.0 video card alongside a PCI video card, simultaneously? [19:39] I want to have VGA and HDMI from PCI-E 2.0 and DVI from PCI [19:44] cole_: nvidia has tool to autogenerate one [19:44] I don't remember what it's called now though :( [19:44] draik: I'd say yes you can I can'ttell you that it will be trivial [19:45] Hola......... [19:45] there's an nvidia-xconfig in my path [19:45] Walzmyn: in your path? [19:45] Aolguien que tenga una idea del UAE [19:46] en linux [19:46] cole_: just means that application exists on my computer, I didn't run it to see what it'd do [19:46] !sp | pedro674 [19:46] Alguien en castellano [19:46] bah [19:46] !es | pedro674 [19:46] pedro674: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter. [19:47] Gracias..... [19:52] Thanks, Daskreech === jasmine is now known as Guest44850 [19:58] In what configuration file is the default window manager to be run at startup installed? [19:58] In what configuration file is the default window manager to be run at startup *specified*? [20:03] cole_: you talking about which manager is running when you login or is run after you log in? [20:04] Walzmyn: I don't understand the distinction. [20:04] cole_: I think its controlled by ksmserver but you can change it in system setting [20:04] cole_: one is managing all the gui stuff when your typing in your password. then you can log into kde or gnome or what have you [20:04] Daskreech: system settings? [20:05] there must be a simple text file somewhere which says "Use this window manager at startup" I want to edit this file. [20:05] Walzmyn: The latter. [20:06] I want to edit the configuration file which selects between kde or gnome. [20:06] cole_: when you're logging in, there's a menu there to select what your logging into. It's usually goingt o the last one you used [20:06] cole_: check the config file for ksmserver [20:07] Daskreech: How could I discover where this file is? [20:07] cole_: ~/.kde/share/config/ksmserver,rc [20:08] pretty much all KDE programs keep the config in ~/.kde/share/config [20:08] Okay, looking at the file . . . [20:09] I don't see where the file indicates the window manager in use [20:11] cole_: does it run kwin? [20:13] yes [20:13] that's your window manager then [20:14] Do you know what xmonad is? [20:14] Walzmyn: That's a display manager not a window managet [20:14] manager [20:14] man xmonad [20:14] it will tell you what that is about [20:15] man is the manual command [20:15] I don't see how it's possilbe that I'm running kwin the wm I'm using is xmonad. [20:15] I'm using xmonad right now. [20:15] why would it say kwin? Aren't they mutually exclusive? [20:15] you can switch them out at will [20:15] if you type kwin --replace you will start using kwin [20:16] type xmonad --replace and you will switch back [20:16] which ever one is run last wins [20:16] kwin --replace yields: "It looks like there's already a window manager running. kwin not started. [20:17] Well, I'd like to make certain that on startup I'm not running xmonad but am instead running kwin. What do I need to do to ensure this? [20:17] srs? [20:18] the replace option is supposed to do exactly that. Replce what ever is there [20:18] ?srs? [20:18] Serious? [20:19] I typed kwin --replace and it gave me that message. [20:20] cole_: press alt+f2 and type default then press ente [20:20] enter [20:20] the rest should be pretty obvious [20:24] Alt-F2 doesn't do anything. [20:26] cole_: course it doesn't :) [20:26] cole_: type krunner in the konsle to get the drop down cli [20:31] hi shadeslayer [20:31] bleah [20:31] hi sheytan [20:31] Though I'm happy to see you too shadeslayer :) [20:31] So, I have the problem where turning on compositing will, over time, cause the xorg process to use 100% of the cpu it's on. Googling has returned a plethora of different answers. I'm wondering if there is an actual answer or if it's just something I have to deal with? [20:32] What is the difference between kdm and kwin? [20:33] cole_: one is your display manager it is controlled by X and allows you to login. It's the process that lets X know when it should stop running [20:33] which one? [20:34] cole_: the other is your window manager and allows you to move windows around as a very basic requirement it will also allow you other things if it has the capabilities. It is controlled by you and can be switched out to something else that fits your needs [20:34] KDE = KDE Display Manager [20:34] display manager refers to the physical monitor and window to the logical screen? [20:34] kwin = KDE Window (manager) [20:35] cole_: No Display manager is logical screen it has almost no input on what happens once you login. [20:35] KDE is based on Qt. How does Kde represent a window, as a QWidget? [20:36] A window is the same as any other windowed GUI it's what most people refer to as a "program" It's the box that you see on the screen [20:36] it also includes pop up dialog boxes, save as file pickers and any other item on the screen that "floats" and can be moved [20:37] Raven: you probably have a Driver bug. Check in #kwin if they haev more info. You may be able to help them track down a solution [20:43] Daskreech, think I'll just get laughed at if I'm running an nvidia gpu? [20:43] Raven: Kwin guys don't laugh [20:44] I think most of them are runing on Nvidia in any case [20:45] How's the ATI/AMD support these days? [20:45] Raven: you might have to be a bit more specific [20:46] Support for what and at what class card [20:47] Let me ask a different question: what card would you recommend for kde compositing to work flawlessly? [20:51] I have a 45xx class ATI that works fine except for Blur on opensource drivers [20:52] I would probably say long term right ATI would be a good bet they seem pretty serious about having the Open source drivers being a very good experience to Linux users [20:52] Just taking a while to get there [20:53] Intel has (had?) very good stable drivers but they aren't really that great for video cards though obviously good enough for Desktops and Windows 7 class effects [20:54] nvidia probably has the best set of drivers now but they are all closed and they regularly drop old cards from support so if you don't have good FOSS support you gotta kludge old drivers to new kernels [20:55] Hrm. 8400 too old for current support? [20:55] I don't keep that close a tab on that stuff anymore [20:56] If you want to check out issues with compositing in kde and your drivers then you can ask in #kwin [20:56] if you just want to delve into Graphics in Linux head over to #phoronix [20:58] After installing a set of updates yesterday, my plasma-desktop no longer runs. I start the computer and it crashes, running plasma-desktop from konsole does the same thing. Is this a known thing (hopefully with a known solution)? [20:59] I'm on kubuntu 10.10 with kde 4.6 [21:00] areichman: did you try a config reset? [21:00] is that erasing my .kde folder? [21:00] areichman: no please don't do that [21:01] good, I really didn't want to. I like my settings the way they are :-) [21:01] what do you mean by config reset, then? [21:02] areichman: it's removing somethings from ~/.kde but you don't need to kill the whole directory [21:02] That would remove some importantthings like mail that might be hard to get back [21:02] But try this [21:04] mkdir -p ~/bkup/plasma && kquitapp plasma-desktop; sleep 5 && mv ~/.kde/share/config/plasma* ~/bkup/plasma && plasma-desktop [21:06] Daskreech: that fixed it. Thank you. I wonder what happened... [21:06] there have been a few updates to kde stuff lately, but I didn't do those last night [21:06] maybe that was the first time I'd restarted since doing the last set, though, 'cause I haven't changed any of my plasma settings recently [21:07] If you really want to know you can replace the files in ~/,kde/share/config with the bkup ones one by one till it crashes [21:07] then take out the config lines till you know which one is causing it [21:09] I think I'll pass on that :-) But thank you for your help [21:09] how do i mount an iphone so i can upload the pics off it? [21:10] it used to pop uop automaticaly from the bar that had my k menu but ive lost my desktop/kmenu/everything [21:12] answeres to either propblem would be helpfull. right clicking my desktop has no effect,the little penut/cashew? thing in the top right corner is gone as well as the rectangle desktop area? in the top left corner,all applets and my menu bar [21:12] lovesthethianood: is this a recent thing? [21:12] just being able to upload my photos would make me happy. im content in running things froma CLI/alt f2 menu [21:13] the desktop? no its been gone for 2-3 weeks now === gary_ is now known as Guest28025 [21:13] have you tried resetting the configuration of your desktop? It worked for me just now [21:13] a command like this: mkdir -p ~/bkup/plasma && kquitapp plasma-desktop; sleep 5 && mv ~/.kde/share/config/plasma* ~/bkup/plasma && plasma-desktop [21:13] theres kde crash report at startup but it says its probably not helpfuill === MuzerAway is now known as Muzer [21:16] yessum that worked great! do you think its fixed for good or will i have to repeat at every reboot [21:16] I think it's fixed [21:16] it made new configuration files [21:16] I don't know what the issue was from the old ones, though, so if it happens again, try and remember what the last changes you made to your desktop were (what widgets were added, etc.) [21:17] also, as far as your iPod goes, it should still be there, you're just not getting the notificatoin [21:17] things usually get mounted in /media/the-name-of-your-device [21:19] hmmm the iphone shows up but it says theres no pictures on it and it wont show up from teh upload photo options on facebook. [21:20] gwenview finds it but says its folders are empty [21:21] and its not in /media/ [21:23] Hello, I'm using Kubuntu 10.10 and I'm having problems to use my Webcam mic, When I configure it as preferen in Phono it just doesn't work, after clicking apply it seems to configure it, but if I close it and go back to Phono it's not changed. [21:23] Could someone please help me? I can't use skype! [21:24] gazra: hey [21:24] did you install pavucintrol and padevchooser? [21:25] oops, pavucontrol* [21:25] Not yet [21:25] do that [21:25] tertl3: I'm doing it now [21:26] And then? [21:26] and then use pavucontrol to choose your cam device [21:26] tertl3: They are already isntalled [21:27] i have to do this to get my speakers working after a fresh install [21:28] or my soundcard i should say [21:29] tertl3: Why isn't it possible to configure it through Phono any more? [21:29] gazra: idk, its a KDE thing I think [21:30] as long as it works, I don't ask why, only how :) [21:34] hello, I have just built in a new motherboard and had to plug my speakers to some other coloured plug, not the standard speaker output. Can anyone tell me how to re-map the exits in kubuntu? [21:42] !webcam [21:42] Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras [21:44] scan: udev? though it may be a driver issue [21:45] Daskreech: I dunno, it is only about the plugs and such... headphones, stuck in standard output work [21:46] isn't that where headphones should go? [21:49] no idea, i only want both at once [21:50] tertl3: skype is still not getting the webcam mic, ;-( [21:51] gazra: i dont use skype so idk [21:52] if your webcam works then its a skype issue [21:53] tertl3: ok, I'll keep searching, on gnome skype was working with pulse audio!! And skype is QT!!! [21:53] gazra: there you go then [21:54] tertl3: Actually to be fair, it was working before the last kde update! [21:54] although I'de think that someone has solved the issue on KDE [21:54] gazra: 10.10 or 10.04? [21:55] or 11 [21:55] 10.10 with kubuntu PPA [21:55] i see [21:55] i am still on 10.04 [21:55] maybe it works on 10.04 KDE? [21:55] 10.04 was working fine [21:56] i did some thinking about using new betas and newer releases [21:56] As I said 10.10 was working, it just stop working with the last update [21:56] and I just could not justify moving away from the LTS [21:56] maybe if I was a serious dev [21:57] but I am just a casual user for the most part [21:58] actually I am using 10.04 with kernel 2.6.38.2 :) [21:59] hi my iphone is reconized when it plugs in by facebook cant find it via its phot uplpaoder and its not found in /media/ it shows up in gwen view with no photos in its folders. whats up? [22:03] BTW teh phone works fine on windoze based machines [22:04] mac too [22:06] no idea about mac. [22:07] think about it [22:09] i am needing some help === Muzer is now known as MuzerAway [22:10] tertl3: i think im mising your point. the iphone used to work fine now it doesnt. something is amiss with linux. could you elaborate? [22:11] im sure it would work fine with mac os im just wondering what changed/wrong with kubuntu [22:12] lovesthethianood: sorry, idk [22:12] lovesthethianood: 10.04 or 10.10? === MuzerAway is now known as Muzer [22:16] i am trying to add a lexmark printer to my computer that has linux [22:18] from what I've heard, lexmark is evil, bad, and nasty [22:18] :( [22:19] i like lexmark [22:19] hehe [22:19] some are partial to Darth Vader, too [22:19] :-) [22:19] lol [22:21] Hey, I was wondering if it's possible to enable automatic updates for everything (not only security), without any confirmation? [22:21] BlaXpirit-UA: maybe you could write a script for that [22:22] Couldn't find this anywhere and didn't want to ask on forums... [22:22] what kind of script? [22:22] a shell script [22:22] yes, i know :D [22:22] sudo apt-get update every day @ 2;00? [22:22] should be possbile [22:23] hmmm, seems OK [22:23] can I put some notification after anything has been updated? [22:23] sure [22:23] how? :P === PaulW2U is now known as G4MBY [22:24] i'm not sure exactly , but maybe put in in a start-up script so it runs from time you boot up? [22:24] i mean... if nothing needs to be updated, do nothing; else update and show a notification === G4MBY is now known as PaulW2U [22:25] could make a plasmoid, but... i have a bad experience with it [22:25] they seem to make the environment slow, if written by someone unexperienced... [22:26] yes, plasmoid adds confusion to a newb like me [22:26] well, I could parse the output of apt-get... [22:26] but there has to be a better way [22:27] BlaXpirit-UA: yeah, my guess is that someone has done this already [22:27] but wait -- doesn't it need a password? [22:27] it should [22:27] will i have to write my password inside the script? :S [22:27] valorie: They are the only peopel I can thin k of with open source printer drivers [22:27] does anyone know how to add a lexmark printer to a computer with linux [22:27] password could be automated i'de think [22:28] !lexmark [22:28] automated, yes... but for that it would have to be written as plain text [22:28] damn bot :-p [22:28] huh [22:28] I think what you are looking for, BlaXpirit-UA, is a cron-job [22:28] BlaXpirit-UA: i'm not saying I know how, but just saying that i think its possible [22:28] google for cron [22:28] greendevil: Did you try cups? [22:28] or man cron [22:28] "cron" blah [22:28] no [22:28] scheduling is not a problem [22:28] yes you want cron [22:28] updating itself is [22:29] i once used cron to automate irssi startup [22:29] okay [22:29] but really, it's not a problem [22:29] i asked about updates :S [22:30] BlaXpirit-UA: I think you can [22:30] i would not recommend it [22:30] BlaXpirit-UA: yes, sometimes linux security can be counter productive :\ [22:30] because... i selected "install all updates" and unchecked "show notifications" [22:31] seems right, but [22:31] there simply were no updates -_- [22:32] "would not recommend"... I heard such things, but I think I trust the developers, and anyway, I just click OK anytie an update arrives [22:32] hello [22:32] The developers cannot know the details of your machine [22:32] * tertl3 goes back to shining his boots [22:33] I want open the file *.run for writing. how can I do this? [22:33] I trust them to make good judgement based on what they know but they can't know my situation as well as I can [22:33] i like the way you're saying everything but what I need [22:33]