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| ryoohki | is there a private cloud? something like eucalyptus@home or open-cloud or some such????? | 00:54 |
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| flaccid | ryoohki: thats what uec is | 00:56 |
| ryoohki | flaccid: is there one not associated with ubuntu? a truely open cloud? | 00:57 |
| gholms | UEC is not a hosted service; you run it on your own machine. | 00:57 |
| flaccid | ryoohki: there are many. eucalyptus, cloudstack, openstack etc. google will show you | 00:57 |
| flaccid | yes eucalyptus is a private cloud software | 00:58 |
| ryoohki | flaccid: would you recomend an open public cloud for learners? | 00:59 |
| flaccid | ryoohki: i don't think there would technically be a full 'open' public cloud. ec2 is great for public cloud | 00:59 |
| ryoohki | i guess eucalyptus would be a good choice if it's open and free to use since the software has market share | 01:00 |
| flaccid | eucalyptus is private cloud software, not a public cloud. hardware is irrelevent. | 01:00 |
| flaccid | CloudStack is a lot better than euca (which is buggy as) | 01:00 |
| ryoohki | flaccid: how much is eucalyptus? | 01:00 |
| flaccid | err have you even gone to the website? | 01:01 |
| flaccid | the OSS edition is free. | 01:01 |
| ryoohki | flaccid: http://cloud.ubuntu.com/ ? | 01:01 |
| ryoohki | flaccid: http://cssoss.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/eucabookv2-0.pdf | 01:01 |
| ryoohki | flaccid: "OSS"? open source software? | 01:03 |
| flaccid | ryoohki: as you can see http://lmgtfy.com/?q=eucalyptus it is first result and second result | 01:03 |
| flaccid | yes | 01:03 |
| ryoohki | flaccid: i know "let me google that for you" | 01:03 |
| gholms | See also http://open.eucalyptus.com/ | 01:03 |
| flaccid | congrats | 01:04 |
| ryoohki | flaccid: google doesn't have opinions, bias, and experience | 01:04 |
| flaccid | you didn't ask for that. you asked for the dang url. | 01:04 |
| ryoohki | flaccid: no, i'm try to stir up a convrsation about open clouds, something like rms would be up to like gnu-cloud or the eff would push | 01:05 |
| flaccid | this isn't the place really for that. | 01:06 |
| ryoohki | flaccid: i'm new to the public discourse in clouds | 01:06 |
| ryoohki | flaccid: probably but i prefer the opions of freenode people to things the internet turns up | 01:06 |
| erichammond | ryoohki: what is an "open cloud"? | 01:06 |
| flaccid | well i have given my opinion. | 01:07 |
| ryoohki | erichammond: i was thinking by now someone would have come up with "cloud@ home" or some such thing | 01:07 |
| ryoohki | flaccid: and i appreciate it | 01:07 |
| ryoohki | flaccid: thanks! | 01:07 |
| erichammond | ryoohki: no idea what you're talking about. | 01:07 |
| gholms | That's what UEC does. You install it on your own machine and do whatever you want with it. | 01:08 |
| flaccid | ryoohki: no such thing as an 'open cloud'. CloudStack does a cloud on your desktop thing now | 01:08 |
| ryoohki | erichammond: ok, can you make it available to others? is there a dispacther? kinda like bittorrent | 01:09 |
| gholms | AFAIK you can make your UEC cloud publicly-usable if you want. | 01:09 |
| flaccid | ryoohki: not really. you might like to give it a try so you can understand how it works | 01:09 |
| flaccid | well you can let anyone use it if you don't care about security | 01:10 |
| erichammond | ryoohki: ah, so by "@home" you are referencing projects like folding@home | 01:10 |
| gholms | You should really learn how this stuff works, though. You're assuming an awful lot. | 01:10 |
| erichammond | Not sure I think that's got much to do with "open" and I certainly would trust running my code/data on random home machines less than running on Amazon managed hardware. | 01:11 |
| ryoohki | flaccid: yup - the @home part is mad eup | 01:28 |
| ryoohki | flaccid: it wouldn't surprise me someone started such a project for home computing enthusiasts | 01:29 |
| ryoohki | erichammond: depends on encrytion | 01:29 |
| erichammond | ryoohki: It's difficult to do anything useful with data without decrypting it. If it's running on a VM on your hardware, you have access to the decrypted data, as well as to the key if it's being decrypted on your hardware. | 01:31 |
| flaccid | there are many private cloud projects that you can install the software at home and have your own private cloud. thats what umm err UEC is. | 01:33 |
| erichammond | There are some special cases where you can perform operations on encrypted data without decrypting it first, but I suspect that's rare for now. | 01:34 |
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| koolhead17 | hi all | 08:08 |
| koolhead17 | kim0, | 09:05 |
| spud_ | hello i've an EC2 instance with EBS boot. I've DYNAMIC Ip... if I "reboot" the instance (i don't mean stop/start) does it change the ip? thanks | 12:40 |
| kim0 | spud_: Hi, no it doesn't | 13:08 |
| spud_ | ii think it happene d a very bad thing | 13:10 |
| spud_ | i did a aptitute safe-upgrade | 13:11 |
| spud_ | it suddenly stop at "Installing new version of config file /etc/java-6-sun/security/java.policy" | 13:11 |
| spud_ | after waiting for minutes.. i did a EC2 reboot from the web console.. | 13:11 |
| spud_ | but now it seems i can't connect with ssh :( | 13:12 |
| spud_ | i'm really lost | 13:12 |
| kim0 | and why can't you! | 13:12 |
| kim0 | even if the ip changed | 13:12 |
| spud_ | the same is the same :( | 13:12 |
| spud_ | looking the "system log" from the ec2 console it seems my instance is started correctly | 13:13 |
| kim0 | and what public IP does it have | 13:13 |
| spud_ | Ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS www.mydomain.com tty1 www.mydomain.com login: | 13:13 |
| kim0 | try refreshing the aws console info | 13:14 |
| kim0 | try, telnet <public ip> 22 | 13:14 |
| kim0 | does that connect | 13:14 |
| spud_ | ohhh | 13:15 |
| spud_ | now it worked!! | 13:15 |
| kim0 | cool :) | 13:16 |
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| michael_ | any documentation on how to secure a ubunut cloud? | 14:23 |
| michael_ | *ubuntu | 14:25 |
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