[00:09] <SpamapS> I seem to have lost my network indicator lately..
[00:09] <SpamapS> anybody have any ideas where it might have gone?
[00:09] <SpamapS> cd /etc
[00:09] <SpamapS> cd xdg
[00:09] <SpamapS> dodohhhh
[00:11] <SpamapS> ** Message: applet now removed from the notification area
[00:11] <hallyn_afk> SpamapS: xdg, interesting
[00:12] <SpamapS> hallyn_afk: Trying to figure out if some config file I refused to accept during upgrade was the culprit
[00:12] <hallyn_afk> probably.  just had to be difficult, didn't you?  :)
[00:13] <hallyn_afk> have you tried turning it off and on?
[00:14] <SpamapS> "is it plugged in, is it turned on"
[00:14] <SpamapS> :)
[00:14] <SpamapS> the cardinal questions of desktop support
[00:14]  * hallyn_afk misses the it crowd
[00:18] <SpamapS> super confusing.. I feel like my natty experience took 20 steps backwards in the last 3 days
[00:18] <SpamapS> compiz has been crashing hourly.. no more network manager applet.. browser isn't opening reliably.
[00:24] <Sarvatt> SpamapS: i've had the same experience and was wondering if it was just me :)
[10:03] <xclaesse> hello, is there a way to have normal scrollbars back into natty? is that configurable somehow?
[10:22] <kklimonda> xclaesse: it is
[10:22] <kklimonda> xclaesse: if you set LIBOVERLAY_SCROLLBAR=0 they get disabled.
[10:23] <kklimonda> so you can set it in one of /etc/X11/Xsession.d/ files
[10:41] <htorque> xclaesse, or if you just want to disable it for a user, add it to ~/.xprofile
[10:42] <xclaesse> kklimonda,  htorque: thx
[16:22] <JanC> *grmpf*, compiz is using 2-3 GiB RAM after 24h here?
[16:24] <bcurtiswx> JanC, 31% (1GB+ here)
[16:24] <JanC> that's crazy too  :P
[16:24] <JanC> imagine being on a netbook...
[16:26] <bcurtiswx> JanC, can't disagree
[17:06] <kklimonda> JanC: meh 3GiB after 24 hours isn't bad
[17:06] <kklimonda> ;)
[17:07] <kklimonda> (at some point my compiz was using over 3GiB memory after 20 minutes or so)
[17:08] <JanC> well, 24h is only a guess since the last compiz crash (which isn't bad either ;) ), but it's certainly been more than 20 minutes
[17:10] <kklimonda> bah, shift+alt+tab doesn't work in gnome3 :/
[17:54] <kklimonda> huh, the bug is.. weird..
[17:54] <kklimonda> I wonder what's happening..
[20:15] <kklimonda> ricotz: hey, in gtkmm3.0 packaging, why did you bump the soname for libgtkmm-3.0-2 package ?
[20:15] <kklimonda> has the ABI been broken, and they didn't bump soname themselves?
[20:19] <kklimonda> (well, it wouldn't matter anyway as we haven't yet shipped any gtkmm3.0 package, but I'm curious)
[20:19] <ricotz> kklimonda, you are right this bump is wrong, i pushed the wrong version
[20:20] <ricotz> locally i have a build with -1 installed
[20:25] <kklimonda> ricotz: I'm going to push gtkmm3.0 into pkg-gnome repository in a minute, and then try to find some sponsors for it.
[20:26] <ricotz> kklimonda, great :)
[20:30] <kklimonda> ricotz: are you interested in maintaining the package, or should I put myself in the Maintainer field?
[20:32] <kklimonda> ricotz: being a maintainer means mostly more spam getting into your inbox (bug mails etc.)
[20:32] <ricotz> kklimonda, it should be done like the other *mm packages
[20:33] <ricotz> kklimonda, probably something like "Debian Maintainers"
[20:35] <kklimonda> ricotz: all mm packages do have a single maintainer, and multiple uploaders. I don't mind setting my email there, but maybe you are interested in working with pkg-gnome yourself - it would probably require you to ask for the access to svn repository, and another channel to your irc list. :)
[20:35] <kklimonda> ah, you are already there.
[20:35] <ricotz> kklimonda, indeed
[20:35] <ricotz> i already have access
[20:36] <kklimonda> even better.