[03:05] <jbicha> hi, just curious if gnome-user-docs will be upgraded to 3.0 before natty's release
[08:27] <mdke> jbicha: yes, it will
[18:25] <j1mc> jbicha: howdy
[18:32] <jbicha> hi
[18:38] <j1mc> thanks for your help on the cheese stuff.
[18:40] <jbicha> j1mc: and thanks for the quick merge
[18:40] <jbicha> the apt:cheese link doesn't actually launch software center
[20:01] <jbicha> j1mc: do you know if it's possible for me to push to a bzr branch or do I have to keep emailing patches?
[20:04] <jbicha> because I would normally do bzr push lp:~jbicha/ubuntu/natty/firefox/fix-for-bug-123456 but that syntax pattern doesn't seem to work here
[20:15] <j1mc> jbicha: hey... yeah, you can create your own branch.
[20:15] <j1mc> let me see...
[20:17] <j1mc> can you try: bzr push:~jbicha/ubuntu-core-doc/gnome-user-docs/natty-unity/blahblah?
[20:17] <j1mc> i'm not super-familiar with bzr here myself
[20:19] <j1mc> jbicha: maybe ask someone in #launchpad?
[20:24] <j1mc> jbicha: try registering your own branch first... https://code.launchpad.net/~jbicha/+addbranch
[20:24] <j1mc> then push your changes to that branch
[20:24] <j1mc> then propose merging your changes into my branch
[20:24] <j1mc> that should work.  :)
[20:25] <j1mc> the owner of the branch could either be yourself or the ubuntu-doc-contributors.
[20:26] <j1mc> thanks again for your help!!
[20:57] <jbicha> I was afraid that doing my own branch would be a huge upload, it's over 100MB and still counting
[21:00] <j1mc> :/
[21:00] <j1mc> yeah, and bzr is a bit slow, too.
[21:08] <jbicha> do you know when gnome-user-docs will be getting its next update in natty?
[21:08] <jbicha> I'd like to see the 3.0 version get in before beta 2 even though our work isn't done
[21:10] <jbicha> j1mc: ok I posted another small update: https://code.launchpad.net/~jbicha/+junk/docs-cheese-pt2
[21:12] <j1mc> jbicha: if you want the latest of gnome user help, you can get it from here: git clone git://git.gnome.org/gnome-user-docs
[21:13] <j1mc> jbicha: is it an update to the same file?
[21:13] <j1mc> the same app-cheese file?
[21:13] <jbicha> yes
[21:14] <j1mc> i'll take a look
[21:14] <jbicha> j1mc: I know where I can get it, but natty beta users have a rather broken help
[21:15] <j1mc> yeah we need to get more ubuntu-specific help in there.
[21:16] <jbicha> because Gnome did a major cleanup of their Help just before 3.0 was release and we  have the older broken 2.9* version
[21:17] <j1mc> jbicha: when you click on the apt link provided by the help, it opens the software center to the cheese page, so you don't need to search for cheese.
[21:18] <jbicha> j1mc: are you using natty, because it doesn't open in software center for me
[21:18] <j1mc> jbicha: the version that we're working on (in our branch) is the less-broken version shipped as 3.0. but you're right... what people see in natty is older, broken help.
[21:18] <j1mc> yeah, i'm using natty
[21:20] <jbicha> j1mc: I'm using the gnome3 ppa but that shouldn't affect this, you don't have any special apturl or software-center installed?
[21:20] <j1mc> no, just stock natty
[21:20] <jbicha> I'm wondering why apturl works for you but is broken for me
[21:21] <j1mc> i'm not sure.
[21:22] <jbicha> actually gnome3 can break stuff in interesting ways because it migrates settings to dconf but Ubuntu doesn't package for that
[21:22] <jbicha> I'm going to ppa-purge gnome3 and try again
[21:28] <j1mc> i've modified the cheese file based on some of your corrections. but i'll leave out the merge.
[21:33] <jbicha> j1mc: ok, if apturl works for software-center that's a lot better anyway
[21:33] <j1mc> ok, i've just committed those updates
[21:34] <j1mc> if you do a bzr revert, and then a bzr merge on your working directory...
[21:34] <j1mc> you should get my changes.
[21:35] <j1mc> jbicha: do you know how to view the most recent updates in yelp?
[21:37] <j1mc> jbicha: pull in my commits, then (from within the top-level directory of your docs...) do  "yelp gnome-help/C/"
[21:37] <j1mc> without the quotes
[21:54] <jbicha> j1mc: do you have apturl installed? because now that I've remove apturl, those links open with software-center
[22:00] <j1mc> let me see
[22:00] <j1mc> i do not have it installed
[22:00] <j1mc> they must've removed it for natty.
[22:08] <j1mc_> jbicha: i need to head out.
[22:08] <j1mc_> i wouldn't worry so much about the stub pages, but look at some of the existing non-stub pages and make sure they conform to unity.
[22:09] <j1mc_> that's where we need the most help.
[22:10] <j1mc_> thanks very much for your help, jbicha   :)