[00:02] <seidos> that's what i thought, but when i tried executing it from a terminal, it wouldn't run
[00:04] <seidos> chromium-browser runs though, i found it trying to set up chromium.gmail as my preferred mail client
[00:09] <micahg> seidos: it's just a shell script
[00:12] <seidos> micahg: interesting.  thanks
[02:06] <anarcat> hi
[02:07] <anarcat> i am a debian maintaine trying to figure out how to make a Debian package migrate properly into ubuntu. the package is drush, and people are starting to complain about it being out of date on the ubuntu side of things https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/drush/+bug/744065
[02:08] <anarcat> now i understand that we're are in natty's freeze cycle, but i am not sure how that affects backporting or syncing of packages into whatever ubuntu's "unstable" is (if there is such a thing)
[02:08] <anarcat> any idea?
[02:11] <anarcat> the last sync was 6 months ago while the new package has been available on debian for more than three months now: http://packages.qa.debian.org/d/drush.html
[02:13] <StevenK> anarcat: In ubuntu-dev-tools there is a tool called requestsync. Use it to request a sync of drush, and include as much information as you can
[02:14] <anarcat> StevenK: what if i don't run ubuntu? :)
[02:14] <anarcat> StevenK: do you think it's realistic to get drush updated for natty now?
[02:15] <anarcat> i guess i can just tell people to use the PPA of that guy i don't know :P
[02:15] <anarcat> https://launchpad.net/~brianmercer/+archive/drush
[02:18] <anarcat> StevenK: what about a backport to lucid LTS? how does that work?
[02:20] <broder> anarcat: ubuntu-dev-tools is in debian as well
[02:21] <anarcat> it is? nice
[02:41] <anarcat> thanks for your help: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/drush/+bug/755172
[04:43] <csjohn> hey all
[04:56] <csjohn> anyone awake?
[04:59] <psusi> I'm on wife deprived caffine and Korn induced auto pilot
[05:00] <csjohn> :) coffee based caffine or something less traditional?
[05:01] <psusi> rum and coke
[05:02] <csjohn> im partial to 'amp
[05:03] <psusi> and vodka? ;)
[05:03] <csjohn> haha normally i take the amp straight with some sort of purpose in mind
[05:10] <csjohn> what have you guys been working on?
[05:11] <psusi> me?  I tracked down an installer hang bug that got introduced during the natty dev cycle tonight
[05:12] <csjohn> what was the cause?
[05:13] <psusi> the new scripts added to partman-auto to allow the choice of replacing an existing install with the new version were trying to unmount the partitions they probed with the device name instead of the mount path, and there is apparently a bug in ntfs-3g where it changes the name of a /dev/mapper/ device to /dev/dm-N instead, and so you can't umount with the /dev/mapper name anymore
[05:14] <psusi> and you can't umount the /dev/dm-N name either apparently because umount chokes on the dash character, and somehow the installation later hangs if that umount fails... still not sure about that part
[05:15] <csjohn> ah okay
[05:15] <psusi> the installation probably shouldn't hang if that umount fails, but the umount shouldn't fail either, so I now have 3 bugs going and forwarded the one for umount upstream
[05:16] <psusi> hrm.... what to tackle next?
[05:16] <csjohn> cheeseburger? haha
[05:17] <csjohn> what field are you in career wise?
[05:17] <psusi> I can has hot dog?
[05:17] <csjohn> hotdogz is gud
[05:17] <psusi> software engineer ;)
[05:17]  * psusi has two hot dogs... 10 lb and 4 lb
[05:17] <csjohn> lol
[05:18] <csjohn> soft eng in what field though? OS? web? disco?
[05:18] <psusi> medial devices
[05:18] <psusi> medical
[05:18] <csjohn> imaging devices?
[05:19] <psusi> not quite... our primary product is a non magnetic IV infusion pump that is MRI compatible
[05:19] <csjohn> oh okay cool
[05:19] <psusi> 3 Tesla magnets do crazy things to magnetic things ;)
[05:19] <csjohn> lol well, they generate them
[05:20] <csjohn> :P
[05:20] <psusi> magnetic objects become deadly projectiles near a 3T MRI magnet
[05:20] <csjohn> oh i know it
[05:21] <psusi> even non magnetic metal like a quarter does some crazy stuff in that kind of field
[05:24] <csjohn> how long have you been doing work on ubuntu for?
[05:25] <psusi> on and off since 2005
[05:25] <csjohn> wow right on
[05:25] <psusi> I had a bit of an MMORPG addition that kept taking me away for a while ;)
[05:26] <csjohn> lol i was a kid selling computers at a retail store that far back
[05:27] <psusi> I nearly went that route... then I decided to get serious and finish college ;)
[05:28] <csjohn> lol well i did that in highschool - im 4 months away from finishing university now
[05:28] <psusi> even though it didn't teach me jack about computers that I hadn't already learned on my own... silly piece of paper
[05:30]  * psusi needs to get some more people to sponsor his universe-contributor app he has finally gotten around to putting in
[05:30] <psusi> membership board meeting is Monday... hrm... where's Keybuk when you need him?
[05:31] <csjohn> im brand new here, so i couldn't tell ya :)
[05:31] <psusi> it seems I now know more inactive/former devs than active ones
[05:32] <csjohn> whats the turnover rate like?
[05:35] <psusi> I'm not sure... like I said, I kept getting sucked back into MMORPGs instead of paying attention until somewhat recently
[05:35] <psusi> but it isn't as low as I'd like it to be
[05:36] <psusi> I'm still not sure what ever happened to Ben Collins Sussman, and Scott James Remnant recently got stolen away by Google... and I think Theodore Tso worked for canonical at one point too
[05:48]  * psusi loves emacs more the more he uses it
[05:49] <lifeless> I don't think ted tso ever worked for us
[05:49] <lifeless> ben collins is doing something else these days, not sure what
[05:53]  * psusi really needs to get the old e2defrag package put back in the archive soon
[05:53] <psusi> it's a shame ted tso and remmy card abandoned it all those years ago
[05:58] <lifeless> filesystems are hard
[05:58] <lifeless> lets drink beer :)
[06:12] <StevenK> psusi: Careful, Ben Collins and Ben Collins Sussman are two different people.
[06:12] <psusi> amen to drinking beer.. but I still want to keep defragging my fs and improving boot times
[06:12] <psusi> StevenK, true
[06:13] <StevenK> And Ben Collins Sussman was still at CollabNet, last I hard.
[06:13] <StevenK> *heard
[06:13] <psusi> I'm pretty sure that at one time, one of them was one of the Ubuntu kernel leads, and no longer is
[06:13] <StevenK> Ben Collins was.
[06:13] <psusi> yea, and the other one was the main guy responsible for svn
[06:14] <StevenK> Ah, Ben Collins-Sussman has moved to Google.
[06:15] <psusi> must... get... Ubuntu... booting from hd in under 10 seconds
[15:21] <c2tarun> why is it that new version firefox is not in maverick and just in natty?
[15:21] <ScottK> c2tarun: You might ask in #ubuntu-mozillateam.
[15:22] <c2tarun> ScottK: I thought that micahg is the one who somewhat adopted firefox.
[15:23] <ScottK> Since the package is in Main, it's not really a MOTU question.
[15:23] <c2tarun> hmmm....
[15:23] <ScottK> There are people here who work on it, but the channel I recommended to you is the best one for such questions.
[15:28] <csjohn> g'day mates
[17:37] <c_korn> is there a tool to run the command given in a desktop file's Exec entry ?
[18:05] <c_korn> hm, xdg-open should work … … if there wasn't bug 378783 :/
[20:50] <ricotz> Laney, hi, could you ack this one? https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/docky/+bug/755766
[20:51] <Laney> don't you want to wait until the gio sync is done?
[20:53] <Laney> ricotz: why don't you go for ppu for docky?
[20:53] <ricotz> Laney, i stated the dependency on gio in the comment
[21:04] <Laney> ricotz: I get loads of messages like this http://paste.debian.net/113532/
[21:12] <ricotz> Laney, hmm weird
[21:13] <ricotz> Laney, does this happen in pbuilder?
[21:13] <Laney> dunno
[21:13] <Laney> don't have gio .3 there
[21:13] <ricotz> doesnt look like a gio-sharp thing
[21:13] <Laney> anyway I think you want GCONF_DISABLE_MAKEFILE_SCHEMA_INSTALL=1
[21:14] <Laney> as in dh_auto_install -- GCONF_DISABLE_MAKEFILE_SCHEMA_INSTALL=1
[21:15] <ricotz> Laney, is this ubuntu-specific?
[21:15] <Laney> nop
[21:15] <Laney> i'll ack the sync but please fix this in git
[21:16] <ricotz> ok
[22:54] <csjohn> sup yo
[23:58] <ari-tczew> debfx: ping