[03:52] <qwebirc33145> If I just installed Ubuntu 10.10, Will my Mythbuntu sit on top of that, or did I just waste some time?
[03:54] <mycoDA> yeah - install the mythbuntu package
[03:54] <mycoDA> should install mythbuntu control center
[03:54] <mycoDA> use MCC to choose the roles you want the system to have and it will do the rest
[03:55] <mycoDA> sound workable qwebirc33145 ?
[03:55] <qwebirc33145> Woah, sorry I'm a total noob. I literally just installed ubuntu (so far I love it)
[03:55] <mycoDA> open a terminal
[03:55] <mycoDA> enter "sudo apt-get install mythbuntu"
[03:55] <mycoDA> enter ur password
[03:55] <tgm4883> mycoDA, you mean mythbuntu-control-centre
[03:56] <mycoDA> oops lol
[03:56] <tgm4883> IIRC, there isn't a straight mythbuntu package
[03:56] <qwebirc33145> So, I don't need to download the latest mythbuntu package?
[03:56] <mycoDA> goddam it - coulda sworn it was a metapackage
[03:57] <qwebirc33145> BTW i really appreciate the help
[03:57] <tgm4883> qwebirc33145, you will install mythbuntu-control-centre, then from there tell it how you want that system set up for mythtv
[03:57] <mycoDA> it will do it for you qwebirc33145
[03:57] <tgm4883> mycoDA, mythbuntu-desktop is a metapackage
[03:57] <tgm4883> which would give you far more than just installing mythtv stuffs
[03:57] <mycoDA> yeah, thought mythbuntu was too - my bad
[03:58] <mycoDA> coulda sworn hearing there was a metapackage called that to convert normal buntu to mythbuntu lol
[03:58] <mycoDA> oh well - live and learn
[03:58] <mycoDA> very welcome qwebirc33145
[03:58] <mycoDA> ty tgm4883 - you do great work
[03:59] <qwebirc33145> ok, so should i install the main mythbuntu download, or do it from the terminal?
[04:00] <mycoDA> huh? can either go to a terminal or synaptic and install mythbuntu control center
[04:00] <mycoDA> then open mythbuntu control center and tell it what 'roles' you want the machine to have, probably master backend and frontend
[04:01] <mycoDA> it will run scripts that configure and install most of it
[04:01] <qwebirc33145> OK - I have to run... I'll give this stuff a whirl and hopefullly figure it out :0)
[04:01] <mycoDA> recommend before you do that you enable the PPAs for 0.24-fixes in Mythbuntu Control Center (you will know what i mean when you see it)
[04:02] <mycoDA> good luck
[04:02] <qwebirc33145> OK, thanks for the advice!
[04:02] <tgm4883> mycoDA, the PPAs are in there by default
[04:02] <tgm4883> you have to manually download and install mythbuntu-repos
[04:02] <tgm4883> !repos
[04:02] <Zinn> The Mythbuntu team provides updates for MythTV and Mythbuntu package using the Mythbuntu Repos http://mythbuntu.org/repos
[04:03] <tgm4883> and mythbuntu-desktop is the only package that converts a ubuntu install into a mythbuntu one
[04:03] <tgm4883> but isn't necessary to install mythtv
[04:03] <mycoDA> they arent in MCC by default???
[04:04] <mycoDA> goddam it has been too long since i did a clean install
[04:04] <mycoDA> tgm4883 ?
[04:05] <tgm4883> mycoDA, nope, we can't ship that by default
[04:05] <tgm4883> since it activates outside PPA's
[04:06] <tgm4883> since we have ubuntu build our ISOs
[04:06] <tgm4883> Also, after 12.04 LTS, we are thinking of doing LTS only ISO's
[04:06] <tgm4883> in case anyone in here wants to comment on that
[04:09] <mycoDA> makes sense to me
[04:10] <mycoDA> myth seems best treated as an appliance, so 3-5 year support makes a lot of sense
[04:12] <mycoDA> is there a recommendation somwhere on the mythbuntu site to go for the LTS releases if the machine is primarily for myth?
[04:15] <tgm4883> mycoDA, recommendation? nope
[04:15] <tgm4883> but thats what I do for my backend
[04:16] <mycoDA> ditto
[04:16] <tgm4883> it's also why LTS will get all mythtv versions released until the next LTS
[04:17] <mycoDA> would their be a place for at least a comment on the fact a lot of people choose to stick with LTS releases somewhere prominent where people are likely to find it BEFORE downloading lol
[04:17] <tgm4883> mycoDA, we are still in the process of determining how many people are on what version
[04:18] <tgm4883> need a few more months of data
[04:18] <mycoDA> fair one
[04:18] <tgm4883> 90%+ are on 0.24
[04:18] <mycoDA> just seems like info that would be useful at the start of peoples mythbuntu journey
[04:18] <tgm4883> but there are slightly more people on maverick than on lucid currently
[04:19] <mycoDA> i kinda wish i had stayed with 8.04, would have been significantly less hasslesome to upgrade
[04:19] <tgm4883> mycoDA, perhaps. But 8.04 only has mythtv 0.21
[04:19] <mycoDA> but then again iirc i couldnt get 0.22trunk and wanted it for vdpau
[04:19] <mycoDA> lol snap
[04:19] <tgm4883> IIRC it was a limitation of the qt version on hardy
[04:20] <mycoDA> ahhhhh
[04:20] <mycoDA> is there a 0.25 trunk for lucid atm?
[04:20] <tgm4883> should be, I'd have to check though
[04:20] <tgm4883> I don't think it's available in MCC but it might exist
[04:21] <mycoDA> fair one
[04:21] <mycoDA> sounds like 0.25 is reasonable?
[04:22] <tgm4883> Yep 0.25 (trunk) is being built for lucid and natty
[04:22] <tgm4883> But you can't enable it in MCC in lucid
[04:25] <mycoDA> PPA repo?
[04:26] <mycoDA> reliable source?
[04:27] <tgm4883> yea, it's the mythbuntu team PPA
[04:27] <tgm4883> so I hope it's reliable :)
[04:27] <mycoDA> sweet  - linky?
[04:28] <tgm4883> https://launchpad.net/~mythbuntu/+archive/0.25
[04:28] <Zinn> [launchpad.net] 0.25 : âMythbuntu Developersâ team
[04:28] <mycoDA> (dont want to google, get the wrong one and end up with someones dodgy build with gentoo style flags aplenty)
[04:29] <mycoDA> ty :)
[07:04] <dekarl1> tgm4883: does mythbuntu heading for LTS versions imply that there might be some interest in porting back xmltv, too?
[07:33] <tgm4883> dekarl1, I haven't heard of that
[07:33] <tgm4883> we don't control xmltv stuff though
[07:52] <dekarl> tgm4883: I think no one really controls xmltv on ubuntu, that's what made me want to promote it a bit over here :D
[19:48] <qwebirc8276> Where do I find my password to install Mythbuntu 10.10
[20:31] <qwebirc8276> I downloaded the program but when I do the install it asks for a user name and password. I do not have one. ....
[22:28] <joat_> I've not used MythTV in about 2  years.  Just now coming back to it.  Question: did Ubuntu remove the MPEG-2 option for capture cards?  When I try configuring with the backend-setup, there's no option for MPEG-2.
[23:12] <gregL> joat_   You can still use those cards, It's the 3rd option...
[23:25] <joat_> gregL: third option being "HDHomeRun"?  (1: DVB  2: Firewire 3:HDHomeRun 4:Network recorder 5:Import test recorder 6:Demo test recorder)  No: MPEG option.
[23:48] <joat_> trying a different approach...