[00:20] Daviey: You around? === gholms|work is now known as gholms [00:22] what makes the server version distinct. Is it only the kernel? [00:24] technically the only difference is the installer :) [00:25] And a different kernel on amd64. [00:25] Of course a very different default package selection. [00:26] Any rampartc maintainers around? :) [00:32] kernels and packages can all be changed after install though :) [00:33] ScottK: ah, ok thanks [00:33] and Patrickdk [00:33] I was just thinking if I built from minimal, would it be supported here :P [00:38] Ok, I'll just ask my question generically. I'm working on a security issue and upstream doesn't appear have a way of securely reporting them. [00:39] If I file it in LP then I can't be sure that upstream will get the patch before a new package is released, but if I file it in upstream's tracker it immediately becomes public. [00:39] Is there a preferred way of handling this? [00:48] is there a seperate cloud channel for ubuntu? [00:49] for eucalyptus? === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [00:49] You mean like #ubuntu-cloud? === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [00:53] gholms: thanks! === gholms is now known as gholms|afk [02:26] <^robertj> help i need 3 harry-potter themed server names in a hurry! database, web, and reporting! [02:26] <^robertj> hagrid, buckbeak, luna, dumbledore, hermione, hedwig, fakes, and ron are already taken [02:28] hi all [02:42] heh === erichammond1 is now known as erichammond === erichammond1 is now known as erichammond === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [06:47] harry, snape,moody [07:19] hi [07:19] al [07:19] all [07:20] I am a new one. [07:24] who can help me to run an embedded web server? === zz_carcinogen75 is now known as carcinogen75 [12:43] Hello, I would like advice about memory required to install ubuntu server 10.04 + apache tomcat with mediawiki / phpBB3 / subversion. I want a test server for developing web apps in java. Is 2Gb of RAM enough for such a test server? [12:44] cyril_: i suggest you more ram [12:45] if you develop apps for tomcat [12:45] remix_tj: thanks. 4Go then? [12:45] yes [12:46] because as far as i know tomcat is pretty heavy [12:46] yes, it is possible [12:46] but I also think it depends on the traffic.. For a test environement, there would be very few traffic... [12:47] Do you know about any online resources where I could compare RAM usage figures for different scenarios of Ubuntu Server + Apache tomcat usage? I have hard time finding clear figures for now === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [14:14] for 10.10 should I use pm-utils or laptop-power-manager === Nick1 is now known as dlray [16:23] hello. I try to make some cronjobs für users in group users with crontab -e, but they did not work [16:23] 1 4 * * * /home/dev/backupDb.sh this does not work. but this has worked: 0 16 * * * /home/dev/backupDb.sh [16:23] i dont understand why [16:24] its just another hour...wtf [16:25] eichi try with double digit [16:25] 04 ? [16:26] 01 04 * * * [16:27] padhu: thanks [16:28] yw [16:28] :-) [16:56] New bug: #755613 in squid (main) "package squid 2.7.STABLE7-1ubuntu12.2 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/755613 [17:10] who can help me to run an embedded web server? [17:10] !ask | samira-t [17:10] samira-t: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [17:11] ScottK: i asked my question :), but for more information something like this http://www.gnu.org/software/libmicrohttpd/ [17:12] People are unlikely to volunteer to provide unspecified general assistance. If you have specific questions, ask them. [17:13] samira-t: libmicrohttpd is packaged in Ubuntu. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libmicrohttpd [17:16] ScottK: okey, thanks, but i'm confused in how to use it [17:17] You install libmicrohttpd-dev and then it should be available like any library for build against. [17:18] Specifics of how to develop libmicrohttpd based applications are probably best asked upstream. [17:31] ScottK: thanks again, i'll try more [18:46] New bug: #755672 in php5 (main) "package php5-fpm 5.3.5-1ubuntu6 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/755672 [18:46] New bug: #755673 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 (main) "package libmysqlclient-dev (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/usr/include/mysql/decimal.h', which is also in package mysql-devel 0:5.5.11-2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/755673 [19:32] hey, I'm installing this server VM & I accidentally my workspace [19:32] or the bash equivelant [19:32] I don't know where the installer is or more importantly how to get there [19:33] obviously CTRL-ALT acts on the host instead of the VM [19:33] atari2600a: I think a word is missing there somewhere? [19:33] in your first sentence [19:33] I accidentally it D: [19:33] it's just gone [19:33] switched, closed, ... ? [19:34] switched :P [19:34] are you using byobu or screen? [19:34] bash, I would assume [19:34] it's the ubuntu server installer [19:36] and Alt+Fx doesn't work? [19:38] well look at that [19:38] I guess I'm too used to CTRL-Alt to switch workspaces [19:38] thanks [19:38] Ctrl+Alt is needed in X [20:38] hi there [20:39] i'm havin a problem with a gre tunnel [20:39] the tunnel is build over a ipsec connection [20:39] can ping each gre interface from the 2 servers [20:40] from server 1 can ping vpn interface [20:40] but from server 2 cannt ping vpn interface of server one from the gre tunnel [20:41] i see the traffic from tcpdump going and commin [20:41] but not comming on the ping program [20:42] ?? [20:42] New bug: #755755 in postfix (main) "package postfix 2.8.2-1ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 75" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/755755 [20:42] is there any way to find where the ping gets blocked [20:44] why is java limited to using 2658MB on my server that has 8GB of RAM and over 6.5GB free? [20:46] Ubuntu Server 10.04 32-bit [20:50] i'd say you gave the answer yourself - you're on a 32bit system [20:50] i'm no java expert though [20:52] I think ubuntu servers 32bit kernel is pae anyway [20:53] yes, but the java binary is 32bit, so it has certain boundaries on how much memory it can use [20:53] still limited address space per application [20:53] ah [20:54] it uses 32-bit pointers remember [20:54] ok :) [20:55] so using a 64-bit Ubuntu Server is recommended to get more memory for the application [20:55] or does each java application have a limit (like a memory limit per program) [21:00] both is correct - you need 64bit to access large memory in the first place, and there can be a memory limit per program on the java side of things. that's configurable, however. [21:04] does anyone here use likewise-open for windows domain integration? does it work well? [21:07] Is Ubuntu Server 64-bit any less secure than 32-bit? (paranoia from the 64-bit root exploit) [21:09] I've tried to install cacti with, apt-get install cacti, I already have lamp-server rrdtools snmpd snmp, but I don't have sucess with localhost/cacti, where may I see the error? in the log just say don't find /var/www/cacti [21:10] More likely the other way around. There are security features that are only enabled on amd64 and not i386. [21:10] Gadu: ^^^ [21:11] so now that the exploid involving 32-bit calls on a 64-bit system has been discovered and fixed, 64-bit is more secure than 32-bit? [21:12] That's my opinion. It may be wrong, of course. [21:12] I appreciate your opinion, thank you [21:15] I don't suppose there is a program that can detect what packages have been installed or uninstalled on a system since its creation? [21:15] would love to be able to quickly determine what changes I've made in that area for a reinstall should I switch to 64-bit [21:34] Gadu: You can use dpkg --get-selections to get a list of what you've installed (the dpkg --set-selections to install on the new system) [21:34] That will get your package list back to where it is. [21:35] It won't track configuration, data, and other changes. [21:35] !clone [21:35] To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « aptitude --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install » - See also !automate [21:39] Dr_Jekyll, i have used likewise-open on a few machines, it seems to work pretty good -- i'm not sure what other options there are to begin with? likewise was the best/easiest i found at the time [21:42] ubottu, that was on my vast list of things to figure out, thanks =) [21:42] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [21:43] x_x [21:43] guntbert, is ubottu's database "open" ? can it be viewed? [21:43] !brain | ry [21:43] ry: Hi! I'm #ubuntu-server's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi | Usage info: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins | Bot channels and general info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots [21:44] awesome, thanks [21:44] ry: you're welcome :-) [21:45] ry: and I can really talk too - not give only bot commands :) [21:46] lol yes i figured as much [22:08] hi all [22:09] hi koolhead17 -- Do you have an ubuntu support question? [22:12] guntbert, no. [22:12] koolhead17: :) [22:28] any suggestions for a sensible jabber daemon to use for a small (4 users) site? === carcinogen75 is now known as zz_carcinogen75 [23:08] shauno, try ejabbered or openfire [23:08] shauno, try ejabberd or openfire [23:10] nimrod10: thanks [23:24] shauno, np