[02:34] <InHisName> I've had dinner, I'm not hungry any more, jedijf
[06:09] <ChinnoDog> I won an auction on eBay, paid for it, received it, and /then/ eBay cancelled the aucion. What is the sense in that?
[08:50] <bts3685|vps> hey, anyone need a consultant for anything linuxy? i'm tight for cash until $newjob paychecks start rolling in, and i gots ta eat. and pay bills.
[16:45] <ChinnoDog> bts3685|vps: when is $newjob starting?
[16:45] <ChinnoDog> @seen Irishmanluke
[16:45] <PennBot`> ChinnoDog: Irishmanluke was last seen in #ubuntu-us-pa 1 year, 1 week, 0 days, 0 hours, 38 minutes, and 24 seconds ago: <Irishmanluke> ah
[16:45] <ChinnoDog> 1 year? It hasn't been that long.
[16:46] <ChinnoDog> @seen Irishmanluke'
[16:46] <PennBot`> ChinnoDog: I have not seen Irishmanluke'.
[16:46] <ChinnoDog> @seen Irishmanluke`
[16:46] <PennBot`> ChinnoDog: I have not seen Irishmanluke`.
[16:46] <ChinnoDog> I don't know what the trailing character was.
[17:00] <MutantTurkey> @seen Irishmanluke_
[17:00] <PennBot`> MutantTurkey: I have not seen Irishmanluke_.
[17:00] <MutantTurkey> hmmmm....
[17:07] <ChinnoDog> @seen Irishmanluke~
[17:07] <PennBot`> ChinnoDog: I have not seen Irishmanluke~.
[17:07] <ChinnoDog> I thought it was some time of apostrophe or quote
[17:08] <ChinnoDog> @seen Irishmanluke^
[17:08] <PennBot`> ChinnoDog: I have not seen Irishmanluke^.
[17:11] <MutantTurkey> @seen Irishmanluke1
[17:11] <PennBot`> MutantTurkey: I have not seen Irishmanluke1.
[17:12] <MutantTurkey> hrm
[17:12] <MutantTurkey> I am stumped ChinnoDog
[17:19] <ChinnoDog> Me too, and I am too lazy to check my log
[17:34] <rmg51>   @seen Irishman1uke
[17:35] <rmg51> @seen Irishman1uke
[17:35] <PennBot`> rmg51: Irishman1uke was last seen in #ubuntu-us-pa 1 year, 26 weeks, 5 days, 9 hours, 9 minutes, and 15 seconds ago: <Irishman1uke> morning
[20:08] <waltman> he was on #plug this morning...
[20:47] <andrew> PennBot`: nick PennBot
[22:17]  * ChinnoDog yawns
[22:25]  * SamuraiAlba plays RoM
[22:35] <mikedep334> hey guys, I want to benchmark the time to compile the 2.6.38 vanilla kernel on my efika mx (arm nettop) once I extract it, isn't there an option I can use to not compile every single module or whatever?
[22:36] <mikedep334>  I found online for 1 cpu: # yes "" | make config # time make -j2
[22:53] <ChinnoDog> mikedep334: If you are just trying to benchmark your nettop you can use the Phoronix test suite.
[22:53] <ChinnoDog> I made some lovely graphics when benchmarking my hard disk configuration on my desktop. I should have posted them.
[22:53] <ChinnoDog> s/graphics/graphs
[22:54] <ChinnoDog> I showed that 2x10krpm hard disks is faster on btrfs than 2x10k + 1x72k. btrfs apparently doesn't take the latency difference into account as well as it could.
[22:54] <mikedep334> ChinnoDog: I'm not certain, but I'd bet the phoronix test suite won't run completely on this armel machine.
[22:55] <mikedep334> it only does OpenGL ES for example
[22:55] <ChinnoDog> Oh. I've never tried to run it on architectures other than x86
[22:55] <ChinnoDog> x86/x64
[22:57] <mikedep334> ChinnoDog: yeah, this is very different beast.
[22:57] <mikedep334> http://www.genesi-usa.com/products/efika
[22:57] <PennBot> Title: Genesi - EFIKA MX Open Client (at www.genesi-usa.com)
[23:01] <ChinnoDog> http://www.genesi-usa.com/products/efika
[23:01] <PennBot> Title: Genesi - EFIKA MX Open Client (at www.genesi-usa.com)
[23:01] <ChinnoDog> oops
[23:01] <ChinnoDog> sorry. I always forget right click pastes in PuTTY
[23:01] <mikedep334> ChinnoDog: and my "open link in browser" option doesn't work for me in PChat on WIn7
[23:03] <ChinnoDog> Yea. I think there is a way to fix link recognition in PuTTY but I've been too lazy to do it
[23:03] <ChinnoDog> Is that the cheapest of the current wave of ARM netbooks?
[23:09] <ChinnoDog> mikedep334: I can not find a page showing all Ubuntu based arm netbooks. How did you find that?
[23:18] <mikedep334> ChinnoDog: they're very rare
[23:18] <mikedep334> and beta-ish
[23:19] <mikedep334> http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=sharp+netwalker
[23:19] <PennBot> Title: sharp netwalker - Google Search (at www.google.com)
[23:19] <mikedep334> the sharp netwalker is 5", but has the same SoC as the Efika MX SmartTop & Smartbook
[23:20] <mikedep334> the SoC is the Freescale i.MX515, with an 800 Mhz ARM Cortex A8 CPU Core
[23:20] <mikedep334> it's instruction set it ARMv7
[23:20] <mikedep334> (ARM11 CPUs are ARMv6 instructions, ARM9 CPUs are ARMv5 instructions)
[23:21] <mikedep334> I'm not sure why, but debian/ubuntu always use "armel" packages; not sure how they relate to those ARMv* revisions
[23:21] <mikedep334> "arm" was the old instruction set used by debian
[23:22] <mikedep334> there was another company releasing a smartbook with the same CPU/SoC recently, I think it was more expensive
[23:23] <mikedep334> now a bunch of Tegra 2 (Tegra 250) smartbooks (ARM netbooks) are coming out; I've only seen them running ANDROID
[23:23] <mikedep334> smartbooks have been largely shelved for a year now because manufacturers are focusing on tablets
[23:24] <mikedep334> this a prominent tegra 250 ANDROID smartbook
[23:24] <mikedep334> http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/24/toshiba-ac100-smartbook-gets-android-2-2-upgrade/
[23:24] <PennBot> Title: Toshiba AC100 smartbook gets Android 2.2 upgrade -- Engadget (at www.engadget.com)
[23:25] <mikedep334> there's also lots of cheap/generic chinese designs, but they seem to all have pitifully slow ARM9/ARM11 CPUs, even at 1 ghz, an ARM11 isn't really good enough for Ubuntu
[23:26] <mikedep334> ChinnoDog: also, keep in mind, there is almost no standardization to ARM hardware yet (Linaro, an Ubuntu-sponsored project), is working on that
[23:26] <mikedep334> so you need specific images of the OS for different hardware
[23:27] <mikedep334> and you can brick your devices often if you flash the flash memory wrong