[00:00] <meganerd> banke247: back them up first
[00:00] <semitones> theoretically -- is it possible to capture all the sounds going on from one laptop,  so that another laptop can tune into the stream, know what i'm sayin?
[00:00] <banke247> yea thats what i'm doing
[00:00] <xevious> colk: Would I have to turn on BIOS legacy support?
[00:01] <arand> xevious: Also, after installing you might want to look into taking the steps which are otherwise described for SSD disks, in order to make the usb disk have less writes and last longer
[00:01] <Roasted_> what's the terminal command for seeing hte current time?
[00:01] <dd214> arand  thanx, I pulled a specific version.. was looking for a directory to put the extracted app.. something along the lines in Windows, "Program Files", instead of my Downloads folder.
[00:01] <Pici> Roasted_: date
[00:02] <arand> dd214: That is generally not how things are done in Ubuntu though.
[00:02] <csarven> Is there a way to auto-select syntax highlighting in gEdit for particular file extensions?
[00:02] <edbian> csarven, If you have syntax highlighting turned on it should do that automatically.  What extension?
[00:03] <eoss> can anyone help me with my audio problem?
[00:03] <arand> dd214: First you see if it is available in the ubuntu software repositories, then you check for external packages (PPAs ...) And as a final resort you download the source and compile the software yourself.
[00:03] <dd214> arand given this scenario, what would be the best practice for storing?
[00:03] <eoss> ive got sound coming out my monitor and my speakers, and when i plug in the headphone to my speakers i got sound coming out my monitor and headphones
[00:04] <jbleau> Can anyone recommend a good file-system introduction for Ubuntu with regards to proper placement of certain files? I just downloaded Java from Sun's website, it's a self-extracting application and just dumps it into my user folder. I want to learn where the proper place to install it would be.
[00:04] <jbleau> My current guess is something like /usr/bin but I'm not sure.
[00:04] <csarven> edbian .ttl  to use SPARQL syntax highlighting
[00:04] <arand> dd214: What is it you are missing in the eclipse available in ubuntu?
[00:04] <eoss> ive got sound coming out my monitor and my speakers, and when i plug in the headphone to my speakers i got sound coming out my monitor and headphones
[00:05] <csarven> edbian .ttl or .turtle
[00:05] <benzaldehyde> semitones: i have done that but not in linux
[00:05] <edbian> csarven, I think gedit just doesn't support that languages.  The highlighting is based on xml files.  You can modify them yourself if you want.  I suggest you make a copy of another one you like and name it properly so that gedit uses that for .ttl or .turtle
[00:05] <mkanyicy> jbleau, what do you want to do?
[00:06] <mkanyicy> jbleau, why dont you install via synaptic?
[00:06] <dd214> arand Yes, Eclipse is available via the ubuntu software rep, but I'm looking for "Eclipse Classic 3.6.2"
[00:06] <xevious> Is there a way to install everything but the Gnome desktop environment when installing Ubuntu?
[00:06] <edbian> csarven, This may be helpful: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/766775/creating-your-own-syntax-highlighting-in-gedit
[00:06] <xevious> So that, after it's installed, I could install xubuntu-desktop...
[00:06] <mkanyicy> xevious, yes
[00:06] <semitones> benzaldehyde, verrrry interesting, chemical-sounding fellow! :D how did you do it?
[00:06] <csarven> THanks edbian
[00:06] <Pici> xevious: You could use the minimal installer and install just want you want.
[00:06] <edbian> csarven, no problem
[00:07] <Pici> !minimal | xevious
[00:07] <jbleau> mkanyicy, I was under the impression that OpenJDK is somehow inferior in terms of speed to java's own binaries, so I was hoping to install those. They offer an RPM but no Ubuntu package, so I want to make sure I install it "properly" where other programs will expect it to be.
[00:07] <jbleau> Sun's*
[00:07] <mkanyicy> xevious, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce
[00:08] <xevious> I've PXE booted the 10.10 installer and I have options to Install, Command-line install, Expert install, or Command-line expert install
[00:08] <Polah> jbleau, you can  install Sun Java on Ubuntu...
[00:08] <jbleau> Polah, I must have looked over it when I was browsing the software center
[00:08] <mkanyicy> jbleau, you may try 'alien' to convert RPM's to DEB's
[00:09] <Polah> Jbleau: You need to add/enable the Canonical partners repository, then you can just do apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[00:09] <mkanyicy> jbleau, anyway, Im not a java guy
[00:09] <arand> !compile | dd214
[00:09] <jbleau> Polah, great! Thank you :)
[00:10] <jbleau> mkanyicy, cool tip, I will keep that program in my back pocket, had not heard of it until now
[00:10] <eoss> wow i figured it out
[00:10] <kostkon> jbleau, then you'll need to give the command: sudo update-java-alternatives -s java-6-sun  to make it the default jvm. More info here:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[00:10] <BountyX> hey let me know when you are in =)
[00:10] <mkanyicy> jbleau, no prob, but Polah's suggestion is the best
[00:11] <Polah> kostkon, jbleau, you can do sudo update-alternatives --config-java then select Sun Java instead of OpenJDK
[00:11] <BountyX> Grey, you there?
[00:11] <dd214> arand No, not compiling.. just downloading the desired version from http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/
[00:11] <Grey_> Hey Bounty
[00:11] <arand> dd214: This might also work https://launchpad.net/~eclipse-team/+archive/debian-package
[00:11] <BountyX> Alright man, if you are running a default unbuntu install it probably has gnome installed
[00:12] <BountyX> You want to click on the ubunutu logo on the top left
[00:12] <rcmaehl> Anyone wanna test out a python game me and my friends are working on? We need to see if there's any bugs, glitches, etc.
[00:12] <BountyX> and go to utilities menu and you will see "Terminal"
[00:12] <kunal> how to setup a ftp ubuntu server?? any1
[00:12] <Grey_> got it
[00:12] <Polah> kunal: install vsftpd and configure it. Look up how to online
[00:13] <Polah> kunal: Or indeed, any other FTP server you wish. I just use vsftpd myself
[00:13] <BountyX> When you have the terminal open just type wine regedit and you should be good
[00:13] <BountyX> Also a quick and dirty way is to also hit ALT + F2 this gives you a run menu
[00:14] <BountyX> Damn I'm usually over in Fedora you guys have WAY more people lol
[00:14] <mkanyicy> kunal, what is the benefit of a ftp server over ssh server?
[00:14] <Grey_> Thanks man. I will tell you if it worked.
[00:15] <BountyX> mkanyicy, FTP of SSH is called SFTP it is encrypted and secure that is the benefit
[00:15] <dd214> arand thanks for helping this newb out
[00:15] <arand> dd214: Hmm, I didn't know they provided binaries, right, for those kinds of applications I don't think there's a particular stadard really.
[00:15] <kunal> and how to hav unlimited storage for the server? how to add n number of storage?
[00:15] <BountyX> mkanyicy, regular FTP transmits your files and login over cleartext and can be sniffed out
[00:15] <BountyX> Always use SFTP (which is just ssh technically) if you can
[00:16] <mkanyicy> BountyX, ok, thanks for explaining.
[00:16] <BountyX> np
[00:16] <mkanyicy> BountyX, you are a guru
[00:16] <Glarbex> To have unlimited storage for the server, keep plugging disks into it at a faster rate than data is saved.
[00:16] <kunal> bounty x is right
[00:16] <arand> dd214: What I would do is just put it in a "eclipse" directory in your home directory, and create shortcuts/symlinks to the binary where appropriate
[00:16] <mkanyicy> !tab | kunal
[00:17] <banke247> meganerd, when i ping google.com it sais unknown host
[00:17] <BountyX> ubottu: that is so useful I never knew that =D
[00:17] <guest_> i just installed 10.04 and i cant get my internet working any advice?
[00:17] <kunal> ssh is req when security is required when say it's a paid service or so.
[00:18] <Polah> BountyX, ubottu is a robot (:
[00:18] <meganerd> banke247: can you ping 8.8.8.8, or traceroute 8.8.8.8?
[00:18] <BountyX> Polah: lmao
[00:19] <banke247> i think its because i'm not root?
[00:19] <mkanyicy> banke247, no its not because of that
[00:19] <MikeH> Evening all, can anyone recommend something for ssh connection management under windows? I realise this may not be the correct place, but not sure where else to ask. I want something that does tabs and ssh keys
[00:19] <Todd200> BountyX: watch
[00:19] <Todd200> !ubottu
[00:19] <kunal> how to auto star prog like filezilla at sys startup. i m thinking of remote automated server.
[00:19] <guest_> i just installed 10.04 and i cant get my internet working any advice?
[00:19] <ddbt-nl> how can i find out the ip address of a particular contact in empathy?
[00:19] <Polah> kunal: If you install openssh-server or vsftpd, they should set themselves as startup services automatically.
[00:20] <edbian> guest_, wifi or wired?
[00:20] <BountyX> Todd200: kewl, man ubuntu channel is way more livley than fedora. its insane
[00:20] <guest_> edbian wifi
[00:20] <banke247> yes
[00:20] <banke247> meganerd,  i just pinged 8.8.8.8
[00:20] <edbian> guest_, what kind of wireless card do you have? (do you know how to find out?)
[00:20] <guest_> edbian wifi
[00:20] <guest_> edbian no i dont
[00:20] <BountyX> Grey_: If you have any more questions just ask and you shall receive =)
[00:21] <banke247> meganerd, but i'm still logged in as root@ubuntu:/#
[00:21] <guest_> edbian i do know it was working on my 8.04
[00:21] <edbian> guest_, run this command: sudo lspci -k   (and pastebin the output) Do you know how to pastebin?
[00:21] <edbian> guest_, If it worked on 8.04 I am very confident I can get it working on 10.10
[00:21] <banke247> meganerd, and apt-get fails to work
[00:21] <mkanyicy> kunal, filezilla is a client
[00:22] <guest_> edbian i cant pastebin the output cause that comp isnt connected
[00:22] <Polah> banke247: What error is it giving you when you try?
[00:22] <edbian> guest_, Then read it and tell me what it says  (look for the bit about your wifi)  I think you can figure it out even though it's a lot of output.
[00:22] <banke247> i'm in chroot
[00:22] <banke247> it just keeps saying failed to fetch
[00:22] <bittyx-laptop> hi, i'm trying to set up keepass to run on my ubuntu. well, i've mostly set it up already - it needs mono, and i put it in my home folder, so when i type "mono ~/KeePass-2.14/KeePass.exe" in my terminal, it starts/works correctly. however, when i make a launcher on the desktop with the same command, nothing happens when i click it. what's the deal?
[00:23] <MikeDD> Invalid extent entry...
[00:23] <MikeDD> that might be the problem
[00:23] <edbian> guest_, I'm looking for something like this Broadcom Corporation BCM4306  (with a different number there)
[00:23] <arand> bittyx-laptop: Why not keepassx?
[00:23] <Polah> banke247: and you can't reach websites either?
[00:23] <CobZo> is there any hope for zfs and dtrace in any decent linux distro? I'm stuck with freebsd and various solaris variants, because I just can't live without those features
[00:23] <banke247> i can from my other login
[00:24] <arand> bittyx-laptop: It is available pre-packaged in the repositories.
[00:24] <raido> CobZo: Not as of today, I think zfs native is now abandoned for Linux.
[00:24] <Polah> banke247: But you can't on the root account?
[00:25] <banke247> Polah, i had to use recovery install disk to get into system then use chroot to get into  my main filesystem
[00:25] <guest_> edbian http://pastebin.com/f9zsJzUz
[00:25] <ddbt-nl> no one on retrieving a contacts ip address in empathy?
[00:25] <edbian> guest_, liar! :D
[00:26] <edbian> guest_, You have  BCM4312  Do you see it there?
[00:26] <CobZo> raido: that's too bad. I like linux but I really need something like zfs. linux has brtfs but it's far from stable
[00:26] <bittyx-laptop> arand: haha, i never even knew that existed. but the problem here is not the program itself, but rather why the launcher doesn't work as i'd expect it to. actually, now i've used a full path - /home/user/KeePass-2.14/KeePass.exe and it works. how come you can't use ~ with launchers?
[00:27] <CobZo> I think brtfs will never reach zfs in features or performance
[00:27] <mkanyicy> bittyx-laptop, if possible, try staying far away from .exe files
[00:28] <semitones> how can i find out if i'm using Alsa or Pulseaudio or what?
[00:28] <bittyx-laptop> mkanyicy: i'm running it through mono and it works fine
[00:28] <mkanyicy> bittyx-laptop, i know
[00:28] <arand> bittyx-laptop: I'm not sure presumably there is no expansion of special symbols or variables like bash has
[00:28] <guest_> edbian yes i see it now
[00:28] <guest_> edbian i dont know what that means though
[00:29] <bittyx-laptop> arand: ah, so ~ is the symbol for your home folder only in bash? i thought it was system-wide (as far as paths are concerned). thanks for clearing that up.
[00:29] <GatunoRox> hello
[00:29] <GatunoRox> can someone help me troubleshoot usb boot problems?
[00:29] <banke247> meganerd, ya there?
[00:29] <arand> bittyx-laptop: In many cases it does work yes, but obviously it needs something to interpret and expand that to the full path at some point
[00:29] <guest_> edbian: but i still cant enable my wireless
[00:29] <edbian> guest_, It's basically the model of the wifi chip.  It lets me know which driver to use.  (the b43 driver).  I can also see that the b43 driver is already being used on the card.  Can you tell me what 'sudo iwlist scan' does?
[00:30] <edbian> guest_, I know, still just info finding.  run that command:  sudo iwlist scan
[00:30] <edbian> guest_, that command tests if it is working
[00:30] <guest_> edbian new
[00:31] <guest_> edib
[00:31] <edbian> guest_, new?
[00:31] <edbian> edib?
[00:31] <guest_> edbian network down
[00:31] <Polah> !ask | GatunoRox
[00:31] <MikeDD> rebooting again...
[00:31] <mkanyicy> arand, but didnt bittyx-laptop run 'mono' on terminal which has 'bash' shell?
[00:31] <edbian> guest_, what is you do this: sudo ifup wlan0   ?
[00:31] <edbian> guest_, BTW, how did you pastebin that command before?
[00:31] <MK`> Is anyone here familiar with Japanese kana? I'm having something behave strangely. Just the characters, not the language itself, I want to confirm if it is ubuntu related
[00:32] <guest_> edbian "ignoring unknow interface wlan0=wlan0
[00:32] <trism> MK`: what's the issue?
[00:32] <guest_> edbian i copied to a document that transfered through usb
[00:33] <edbian> guest_, Mmmm, do you have a /lib/firmware/b43    folder? (that is were the firmware is stored) we need both the firmware and the driver for this to work.  I know the driver is there.  I'm also sure the card is not working so we'll check the firmware
[00:33] <GatunoRox> I used a 640GB USB external HDD to install Ubuntu on a computer without internall HDD, so grub would be installed on the external. Everything works rather fine, but when trying to boot on other computers it gives me "no such device:" followed by UUID
[00:33] <bittyx-laptop> mkanyicy: i wasn't having trouble with running it from the terminal, but rather when i tried making a launcher.
[00:33] <bittyx-laptop> mkanyicy: as in, an icon on the gnome desktop
[00:33] <HyperShock> is there a way via bash scripting in the ~/ directory to detect which type of desktop was booted up and then disable some features based on that result? I ask because I have my gnome panels completely replaced with cairo-dock, but now I'm trying out xubuntu to get more power from my system and it doesn't support the cairo-dock compositing very well.
[00:33] <edbian> guest_, Additionally, if the firmware is missing you will see error messages about it new the end of the output of dmesg (that's a command)
[00:33] <MK`> a) あ゙   b) あ゛   <-- The first one is supposed to be combined, with the second separate. That is how my friends on windows see it. Yet I see it backwards, both in here and in firefox, even with different fonts
[00:33] <MK`> I can't fathom why that would occur
[00:34] <mkanyicy> bittyx-laptop, ok, that makes sense. tilde expansion is a feature of shells like bash
[00:34] <bittyx-laptop> mkanyicy: i wouldn't be asking if i knew that (: thanks for the info!
[00:35] <ddbt-nl> how to retrieve a contacts ip address in empathy?
[00:35] <xevious> arand: I can't get the installer to see my thumb drive... any tips?
[00:35] <topgun21> woul;d it be wise to remove the xubuntu desktop after installing the lubuntu-desktop package over a freshly installed xubuntu system due to hard drive space constraints?
[00:36] <seif12> empathy is
[00:36] <seif12> a security disaster
[00:36] <xevious> arand: I've tried forcing the BIOS to emulate a HDD and it still doesn't see it.
[00:36] <ddbt-nl> seif, well.. what would you recommend?
[00:36] <edbian> guest_, How is it going?
[00:36] <arand> xevious: I'm afraid not, if it is visible otherwise in ubuntu?
[00:37] <ddbt-nl> seif12: in terms of googlin?
[00:37] <xevious> arand: /dev/sda
[00:37] <semitones> how can i find out if pulseaudio is in use in my system?
[00:37] <ddbt-nl> seif12: or another way to find out?
[00:37] <arand> xevious: But not in the file manager?
[00:37] <guest_> edbian lib dir is not there
[00:37] <edbian> guest_, /lib/firmware/b43 is missing?  or /lib if missing?
[00:38] <xevious> arand: I'm doing a PXE booted minimal installer...
[00:38] <arand> seif12: What in particular do you consider a security risk in empathy, have you reported bugs for it?
[00:38] <xevious> arand: When it detects disks, it says there isn't one connected to the system.
[00:38] <trism> MK`: very strange, here in xterm, I see them as you described they should be, but out in gedit, I see them reversed
[00:38] <xevious> However, the thumb drive shows up already as /dev/sda
[00:38] <ddbt-nl> arand: i asked seif12 for a way to retrieve a contacts ip address
[00:38] <guest_> edbian /lib/firmwar/b43
[00:38] <guest_> edbian that one is missing
[00:38] <edbian> guest_, You don't have internet access?
[00:39] <guest_> edbian no
[00:39] <sir_tyrion> Hi, I left an install cd running with ssh server installed and added a user to login with, but forgot to give that user sudo rights. Is there a way around this?
[00:39] <guest_> edbian i mean im on with this one obviously but the other comp doesnt even see the signal
[00:39] <sir_tyrion> I have the livecd user ubuntu password in mind, but not for the new user
[00:39] <edbian> guest_, That makes it a slight bit harder.  Go to this site:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx   scroll all the way to the bottom (b43 - no internet access)  and you need to do step 2 and step 3
[00:39] <xevious> arand: fdisk /dev/sda says "Unable to open /dev/sda"
[00:40] <arand> xevious: sudo ?
[00:40] <xevious> arand: I'm root...
[00:40] <edbian> guest_, If you need more help I am here.  (step 1 is already done and step 4 does not need to be done)
[00:40] <xevious> arand: All that exists in this minimal installer is a dialog-based guided install or a command prompt.
[00:40] <bittyx-laptop> arand: i've installed keepassx, but i can't seem to open my key database - i get the "wrong signature" error, even though i can open it in keepass (the keepassx website says that keepassx can read the original keepass file format)
[00:40] <arand> xevious: Well in that case the usb stick is either broken/garbaged, or incompatible with linux
[00:41] <guest_> edbian ok ill try it thanks
[00:41] <GatunoRox> anyone?
[00:42] <bittyx-laptop> arand: ah, it's because my file is from keepass 2, and this isn't supported yet by keepassx. frak.
[00:42] <arand> bittyx-laptop: Hmm, unfortunate, see if you can find any more info on their site I guess... Ah, there
[00:42] <arand> bittyx-laptop: You may be able to export in the old fromat from Keepass?
[00:42] <sir_tyrion> is there a way to login to the ubuntu usr ona livecd from a user that isn't in sudoers?
[00:43] <topgun21> is there a package for the freecolor command line memory status monitoring application on ubuntu/Debian?
[00:44] <bittyx-laptop> arand: that's what i'm about to try. but thanks for mentioning that keepassx exists - the site says they're working on a new version that will be able to handle the new file format as well. though that's the last news on the site, from september last year, without any updates after that, so who knows...
[00:45] <angrymanatee> Hi. I've been trying to compile BSNES on lucid for the past day - recently gave up cause I found some debs for Maverick of it..
[00:45] <MK`> hi
[00:45] <MK`> !info bsnes
[00:45] <angrymanatee> Downloaded those, installed.. and I get this: bsnes: symbol lookup error: bsnes: undefined symbol: _ZN9QListData11detach_growEPii
[00:45] <angrymanatee> it's from someones PPA
[00:45] <MK`> ah
[00:47] <angrymanatee> That's from the terminal when I try to run it from there. If I run it from the app menu it does nothing.
[00:48] <MK`> I do not know, sorry
[00:48] <arand> angrymanatee: So possibly the PPA-packager didn't do a very good job, or packaged it very narrowly and unportably
[00:49] <angrymanatee> Hm I see
[00:54] <arand> angrymanatee: Have you looked at http://byuu.org/bsnes/compilation-guide
[00:54] <angrymanatee> Yeah
[00:54] <angrymanatee> Lucid's GCC is < 4.5
[00:55] <vanmik> i'm trying to install mysql lib for python via apt-get (apt-get python-mysql), and it install successfully but for wrong python version. There is python2.6, python3 and python2.7 versions on ubuntu-machine. Is there a way to declare needed python version to apt-get installer?
[00:56] <genis-bob>  I'm having trouble installing Firefox 4, I've downloaded the package but I can't seem to get the package Manager to find it
[00:56] <violets> !fx4
[00:56] <geojorg> genis-bob:Use the ppa instead
[00:57] <genis-bob> I've tried using alien, I will try that
[00:57] <violets> alien is not a good idea, in general :\
[00:57] <doomrobo>  is it possible to install 32-bit software in 64-bit ubuntu?
[00:57] <gerrin> laptop shutdown mid intall of pidgin, now when i try to install it again, i get unable to complete install message, how can i fix it? all this is in software center
[00:57] <MK`> doomrobo yes, someone here can tell you how
[00:57] <geojorg> genis-bob: not a good idea
[00:57] <dustin_> yeAH I wanted to kmopw that to..
[00:58] <doomrobo> Also, the software won't show up in apt because it's the wrong architecture
[00:58] <dustin_> doomrobo,  what you trying to do?
[00:58] <MK`> yeah you can't do it via the software
[00:58] <MK`> center
[00:59] <doomrobo> dustin_ i added the dockbar ppa but it has no installation candidate in apt because it's 32 bit
[00:59] <gerrin> cant add or remove packages from software center, how can i fix it
[01:00] <ubntuguy> If I don't install ubuntu 11.04, will I still get security updates for ubuntu 10.10?
[01:01] <MK`> I believe you use dpkg -i --force-architecture
[01:01] <MK`> but someone will have to confirm
[01:01] <bilal> how can we report a bug through terminal??????
[01:01] <MK`> I am not an expert
[01:01] <bastidrazor> !bug | bilal
[01:02] <arand> ubntuguy: Yes, for as long as 10.10 is supported
[01:02] <genii-around> bilal: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/reporting-bugs.html  for command-line only
[01:03] <violets> ubntuguy: 10.10 will receive security updates until 18 months from its release, so April 2012.
[01:05] <ubntuguy> SO until 2012?
[01:05] <ubntuguy> I will continue to get updates?
[01:05] <syn-ack> Thats what he said
[01:06] <violets> ubntuguy: correct
[01:06] <ubntuguy> Thanks
[01:06] <doomrobo> how do I get apt to be able to install 32 bit packages in 64 bit ubuntu?
[01:07] <DaPenguin> doomrobo, why would you want to? dev purposes?
[01:07] <doomrobo> no, just dockbarx doesn't show up in apt after I added the ppa
[01:08] <Auriga> Has anyone had problems with wireless on a netbook, connecting, then constantly reconnecting?
[01:08] <Auriga> & basically not being able to stay connected at all.
[01:09] <DaPenguin> doomrobo, did you do an update?
[01:09] <doomrobo> indeed I did
[01:09] <urgodfather> how do i enable the splash?
[01:10] <MK`> not me Auriga
[01:10] <KSHawkEye> What are the downsides to using ubuntu 64-bit instead of 32-bit?
[01:10] <doomrobo> DaPenguin Nevermind
[01:10] <razumikhin> anybody got an idea why when I try to activate a menu item that is shown in italics, it won't activate and appear in the menu
[01:10] <doomrobo> Apparently it decided to work now
[01:10] <doomrobo> thanks anyway
[01:10] <DaPenguin> lol, ok
[01:10] <MK`> KSHawkEye: you can't install 32-bit packages via the software center
[01:11] <Auriga> MK`, Any ideas...? It's in Ubuntu & Mint, basically the same OS... But both won't connect.
[01:11] <MK`> I wouldn't know Auriga :(
[01:11] <KSHawkEye> MK`: Can 32-bit packages work with 64-bit Ubuntu?
[01:11] <Auriga> MK`, Shame... On goes my endeavor to use wireless...
[01:11] <MK`> yes
[01:12] <KSHawkEye> Is 64-bit Ubuntu considered as stable as 32-bit?
[01:12] <genis-bob> the PPA script worked perfectly, will now seek tutorials on PPA and other command line scripts... thank you ubottu!
[01:12] <MK`> Yeah, I don't see why it wouldn't be
[01:12] <Auriga> KSHawkEye, Probably more so.
[01:13] <KSHawkEye> Auriga: Why would it be more so?
[01:13] <YankDownUnder> 64 = 32 x 2 => ergo, it's twice as stable. :)
[01:14] <Auriga> KSHawkEye, 64bit computing is more secure period.
[01:14] <dork> why does unrar -e *.rar suddenly not work under lucid/maverick
[01:14] <KSHawkEye> Could I ask why 32-bit is "recommended" then? (As seen on the download page)
[01:14] <MK`> well, you can't just pick one to install. You need to use the one based on your system architecture
[01:14] <MK`> if you're 32-bit, you have to use 32-bit
[01:14] <arand> KSHawkEye: A question which has no real good answer.
[01:14] <Auriga> Probably because the average end user looking to test it won't understand the differences.
[01:15] <razumikhin> never mind I figured it out
[01:15] <Evildaemon> I need to forensically image a truecrypt drive, (No I'm not going to try and crack it from scratch, I have the key, or at least 90% of the key, I just need to get a disk image in case I screw up.) how do I determine the mount point so I can point dd at it?
[01:15] <tensorpudding> it's easier to suggest to use 32-bit rather than go through contortions to know for sure that your machine supports 64-bit
[01:15] <Auriga> THought saying that, usually, average end users only know what windows is.
[01:15] <vectory> if ur on a 64 bit arch u most vertainly can still use 32 bit thp
[01:15] <vectory> though*
[01:15] <arand> KSHawkEye: SOme computers don't support 64bit, so 32bit is still the most general option, especially if taking into account a lot of netbooks as well
[01:16] <MK`> Evildaemon is it a partition/entire drive?
[01:16] <KSHawkEye> All very valid points, I just worry that it may scare some users off of 64-bit (people that know they can run 64-bit) because they think its better, or because they think something might be wrong with 64-bit.
[01:16] <Evildaemon> Entire drive. (And yes, it's mine.)
[01:17] <MK`> Look at the Disk Utility
[01:17] <MK`> it should tell you where it is
[01:17] <dork> why does unrar e *.rar suddenly not work under lucid/maverick
[01:18] <Auriga> 64bit allows a higher addressing of ram, so on that basis alone people will take 64bit.
[01:18] <arand> KSHawkEye: Yes, the only issue I see with 64bit atm is that you tend to be better of installing flash manually using their beta version, although the prepackaged one does work..
[01:18] <Evildaemon> You know, when people give me simple answers like that (and they work) I start to question my competency. Thank you.
[01:18] <MK`> haha
[01:18] <MK`> no problem
[01:18] <Bluebill-Wolf> i'm thinking of getting a new lappie any one have any recemdations for sites to buy from?
[01:18] <Auriga> Evildaemon, Lol.
[01:19] <Auriga> Newegg...
[01:19] <MK`> newegg is great yeah
[01:19] <ubbo> need help installing kde 4.6 on Ubuntu 10.04 (no to convert ubuntu tu kubuntu, but simply install BASE kde environment onto Ubuntu): how should I do?
[01:19] <arand> KSHawkEye: There have been many remarks about the wording on the download page, but it seems canonical wants to stick with it..
[01:20] <MK`> but yeah really KSHawkEye I personally would recommend 64 over 32
[01:20] <MK`> 32-bit can have a max ram of 4 GB, 64-bit's max is like 1000 TB or something
[01:20] <Auriga> 32bit is 3.25gb, 84bit is 128gb no?
[01:20] <KGB> can anyone help me with enlarging my linux partition using gparted?
[01:21] <arand> MK`: PA ups that max to 64G (still ~3.2 per individual process though...)
[01:21] <KSHawkEye> MK`: Oh good, now I can make use of those 1000TB of ram I have ;)
[01:21] <MK`> KGB you can't alter a partition that's mounted, are you using a liveCD?
[01:21] <arand> MK`: *PAE
[01:21] <Axlin> theoretically, 32 bit = 4 GB, 64 bit = 16 EB
[01:21] <KGB> MK`, yes
[01:21] <MK`> ok. Back up your stuff etc. then open gparted
[01:22] <KGB> Already open
[01:22] <MK`> click on the disk in the upper right
[01:22] <KGB> yeah/.
[01:22] <MK`> and then resizing it is fairly simple. Just specify the new size
[01:22] <KGB> Uhhh
[01:22] <KGB> Well
[01:22] <KGB> It's an extended partition
[01:22] <MK`> do you have unallocated space?
[01:22] <KGB> yes
[01:22] <KGB> 91gb
[01:22] <MK`> click on the extended
[01:23] <MK`> and expand that
[01:23] <KGB> done
[01:23] <MK`> then extend the partition inside it to the new space
[01:23] <ubbo> need help installing kde 4.6 on Ubuntu 10.04 (no to convert ubuntu tu kubuntu, but simply install BASE kde environment onto Ubuntu): how should I do?
[01:23] <KGB> there's 2 partitions
[01:23] <MK`>  / and swap?
[01:23] <KGB> one is ext4 and one is linux-swap
[01:23] <KGB> I guess
[01:23] <KGB> yeah
[01:23] <MK`> yeah
[01:24] <KGB> uhh
[01:24] <MK`> ext4 is where you put files. the swap is between the ext4 and the empty space?
[01:24] <KGB> Wlel
[01:24] <KGB> *well
[01:24] <KGB> it goes
[01:24] <vectory> ubbo, do you want the desktop or the application environment that many gtk+ apps need, becvause the later is installed with these by asynaptic when need be
[01:25] <Roasted> Anybody here good with NTP? I'm having trouble understanding a few things about it in regard to my setup at work.
[01:25] <KGB>  /dev/sda1, my computers bios, I'd assume, sda2, the boot partition, sda4, the extended, sda5, the ext4, sda6, the swap, then sda3, my win7 partition
[01:25] <ubbo> vectory: Hi! I want the K-DE, but not to convert Ubuntu to K!
[01:25] <KGB> then the unallocated
[01:25] <Roasted> KGB, your PC BIOS is not a partition.
[01:26] <vectory> !kde
[01:26] <KGB> well, its named "DellUtility:
[01:26] <KGB> *"
[01:26] <MK`> that's likely your backup win7 installation
[01:26] <vargha> hi to all
[01:27] <MK`> anyways, where is the free space in there?
[01:27] <MK`> between swap and the win7 partition, within the extended?
[01:27] <KGB> no
[01:27] <KGB> It's outside of it
[01:27] <KGB> (I had to steal it from the win7 partition just now)
[01:27] <dork> why does unrar e *.rar suddenly not work under lucid/maverick
[01:28] <MK`> On the right side of the windows partition then?
[01:28] <KGB> Uh
[01:28] <MK`> a screenshot would be nice
[01:28] <KGB> yes
[01:28] <KGB> uh
[01:28] <KGB> one sec...
[01:28] <aeon-ltd> dork: i don't use unrar but if e is a flag shouldn't it be -e ?
[01:29] <dork> depends on the application, so no
[01:29] <tensorpudding> no, in unrar it's e
[01:29] <ubbo> vectory: fine, this is exactly what I want-> (iii) kde-plasma-desktop nut... How can I install version 4.6 of this (I'm on Ub 10.04)?
[01:29] <maimster> Sup everyone.
[01:29] <KSHawkEye> dork: Thats a pretty general error report, could you be more specific? (whats going wrong?)
[01:29] <dork> and that has worked for like the past 7 releases before lucid
[01:29] <ubbo> *but...
[01:29] <dork> but for some retarded reason the shit doesn't work now
[01:29] <Roasted> language...
[01:29] <dork> yeah, english.
[01:29] <KSHawkEye> dork: Calm down, and explain the issue...
[01:29] <Roasted> you don't seem to understand
[01:29] <vectory> ubbo, u can always try to compile it yourself, but i wouldnt wanna do that myself
[01:30] <tensorpudding> dork: does it work on a single rarfile?
[01:30] <KGB> MK`, I'll have a screenshot in a minute, let me just transfer it from computer to computer
[01:30] <dork> KSHawkEye: the issue is unrar e *.rar doesn't decompress an archive like it has for the last 8 years
[01:30] <Roasted> Anybody here good with NTP? I'm having trouble understanding a few things about it in regard to my setup at work.
[01:30] <MK`> no problem
[01:30] <MK`> I just don't want you to destroy your windows parititon
[01:30] <MK`> unless that is your goal :P
[01:30] <KGB> Just gotta get used to fluxbox...
[01:30] <vectory> ubbo: if its not in the repo there might be another version that is applicable, if 4.6 is newer than the version in the repo, then look for a backport ppa
[01:30] <KGB> If that was my goal, I'd probably be done by now
[01:30] <uberspaced> Hey, dork, imagine you knew what you were doing.  Read what you have written, and determine if what you have said is sufficient to solve any problem.
[01:30] <MK`> :P
[01:31] <ubbo> vectory: yeah!!! PPA... I've already heard that... How can I use KDE PPA for Ubuntu 10.04?
[01:31] <dork> uberspaced: please stop revealing yourself as a typical useless ubuntu end user
[01:31] <KGB> Uh... fuuuu-
[01:32] <vectory> ubbo: i never used a ppa, sorry
[01:32] <KSHawkEye> I believe we have a troll naked dork
[01:32] <KSHawkEye> named**
[01:32] <uberspaced> Naked almost worked there.
[01:32] <shawncm217> Banshee will not remember the settings for my portable media player. i've googled a bit, but can't find anything for this problem. Has anyone seen this, or have a google search i should try?
[01:32] <KSHawkEye> almost
[01:32] <tensorpudding> dork: did you try it against a single file? do you get an error message? give us more information
[01:32] <ubbo> vectory: oh... But let me understand a thing abut PPA... They are repos you can add to have newest versions of software?
[01:33] <AHMED_> Huh
[01:33] <vectory> ubbo: you gotta find someone who set up a server and add that address to your package repositories, yes
[01:33] <dork> nah, just extremely irritated that this doesn't work as of the last lts release, and the search results suggests that this is a widely known issue, yet i can not find any concise explaination as to why
[01:33] <dork> call it trolling if you want to
[01:33] <vectory> ubbo: but you should beware
[01:33] <AHMED_> Try to control yourself my man
[01:33] <KGB> Dearest me
[01:33] <vectory> ubbo: not always
[01:34] <dork> file roller works fine bunt unrar e *.rar (which has worked since non-free unrar was introduced to debian systems) does not work
[01:34] <vectory> sometimes its just repos that offer deb's of betas for testing, not for production use
[01:34] <ubbo> vectory: sorry, I'm new of Ubuntu and I still need to learn a lot of things...
[01:34] <vectory> me 2 :D
[01:34] <dork> s/bunt/but
[01:34] <AHMED_> What a subjects here
[01:35] <IdleOne> dork: from man unrar "After  the program name comes a command and then optional switches with dashes before them."
[01:35] <ubbo> vectory: ok... So... canonical repos-> foo-1.0 || PPA repos-> foo-2.0 for example... Right?
[01:35] <IdleOne> so the switch is -e
[01:35] <IdleOne> not e
[01:35] <IdleOne> dork: forgive me I am wrong
[01:35] <AHMED_> I am asking if anyone here is interested to have a normal conversation
[01:35] <ubbo> vectory: so I should only need to find kde ppa for ubuntu 10.04 and add to spftware sources?
[01:36] <ubbo> *software
[01:36] <vectory> ubbo: thats how i understood it, but there shouldnt be any reason to use bleeding edge, when the version in the universe repos is tested and proven to be working
[01:36] <bazhang> AHMED_, wrong channel for that
[01:36] <dork> IdleOne: you're wrong
[01:36] <dork> next
[01:36] <bazhang> AHMED_, #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:36] <IdleOne> dork: drop the attitude
[01:36] <KGB> MK`, er, it's to the right of the windows partition, I'm afraid I can't get the screenshot copied
[01:36] <KGB> !ot | AHMED_
[01:36] <MK`> alright
[01:36] <dork> this channel is the blind leading the fucking blind
[01:36] <MK`> well, you can't have more than 4 primary partitions, and you can't have more than 1 extended partition
[01:36] <uberspaced> AHMED_: you can go in to #English and have a conversation with me in there if you want.
[01:36] <tensorpudding> dork: it works fine for me
[01:37] <MK`> so, I dunno how you'd get that data to linux.
[01:37] <tjiggi_fo> tensorpudding, he's gone
[01:37] <KGB> I can't add it to the extended partition?
[01:37] <tensorpudding> i noticed
[01:37] <MK`> Not from the other side
[01:37] <MK`> the extended partition has to be contiguous
[01:37] <KGB> and I can't reorder it?
[01:37] <MK`> You can *move* the windows partition to the side I guess
[01:38] <MK`> but that will take many hours most likely
[01:38] <KGB> Well.
[01:38] <Alonea> real quick, how do I get the grub menu to show up on bootup instad of the kubuntu logo? like, a key combo or something during boot?
[01:38] <KGB> That... sucks
[01:38] <MK`> Make absolutely sure that you back up the windows partition if you do
[01:38] <KGB> MK`, I probably won't bother to try it... I might just backup the linux partition, nuke it, then re-make it
[01:38] <Black> Random question, is there any advantage to using a virtual environment over dual booting?
[01:39] <MK`> the space would still be separated
[01:39] <vectory> Alonea: i remember having read about that key combo but i forgot
[01:39] <vectory> giyf
[01:39] <KGB> Even if I remove the linux partitions?
[01:40] <MK`> yeah
[01:40] <KSHawkEye> Black: Yes, you can switch to your host OS without rebooting
[01:40] <Auriga> & is by magic upon a fresh install, five minutes in & no wireless connection loss lol.
[01:40] <MK`> the windows partition will physically be in the same place
[01:40] <KGB> Well
[01:40] <Black> So the advantage is really about convienence?
[01:41] <tjiggi_fo> Alonea, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/show-and-hide-the-grub-menu-on-ubuntu.html
[01:41] <KGB> Couldn't I just remove the non-windows partition, and use the unallocated space I have now for a new partition for linux?
[01:42] <Alonea> tjiggi_fo: esc it is. I just need to edit something just this once. Thanks. will try that
[01:42] <KGB> and leave the 7gb from linux right now unused?
[01:42] <MK`> how large is the other side?
[01:42] <KGB> The unallocated? 91 gb
[01:42] <MK`> yes, you can do that
[01:42] <KGB> Probably will
[01:42] <MK`> this is why I have multiple disks :P
[01:42] <ubbo> vectory: found the way!!! :D
[01:43] <Roasted> Anybody here good with NTP? I'm having trouble understanding a few things about it in regard to my setup at work.
[01:43] <vectory> whats the solution?
[01:43] <KGB> MK`, how much does a good sized external hard drive cost?
[01:43] <MK`> wait'
[01:43] <histo> Roasted: what is the problem?
[01:43] <MK`> nvm; KGB you can get a 2 TB external for $100
[01:43] <Roasted> histo, I have an ubuntu server running LTSP thin clients. I can't get the cl ients time to sync right. I have NTP installed on the server but I'm unsure what else to do
[01:43] <KGB> O.o
[01:44] <histo> Roasted: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/NTP.html
[01:44] <KGB> MK`, looks like I know what I'm getting using my birthday money!
[01:44] <MK`> :P
[01:44] <Roasted> histo, read it already
[01:44] <syn-ack> Le sigh
[01:44] <histo> Roasted: well you can configure a server and update the time
[01:44] <KGB> well, thanks!
[01:44] <MK`> A few years ago I bought a 100 GB harddrive for $100
[01:44] <histo> Roasted: how is the system time compaired to the ltsp client times?
[01:44] <Roasted> histo, the server is fine. it's the clients that fail.
[01:44] <MK`> few years later 250 GB for $100
[01:45] <MK`> now 2 TB for $100 :P
[01:45] <histo> Roasted: maybe check the clients time zone settings
[01:45] <Roasted> histo, It varies, but tends to be within an hour
[01:45] <KSHawkEye> SSD is the way to go now
[01:45] <Roasted> histo, the clients get their time instructions from the server. I talked to the devs and my config file is correct. They say it's an NTP issue.
[01:45] <Khisanth> MK`: $80 or are you including shipping and taxes? :)
[01:45] <MK`> I bought these in-store
[01:46] <MK`> http://www.newegg.com/Store/SubCategory.aspx?SubCategory=414&name=External-Hard-Drives&Order=REVIEWS
[01:46] <histo> Roasted: could be perhaps there is an alternative to ntp out there
[01:46] <Roasted> histo, I'm using ntp...
[01:46] <syn-ack> there is no alternative to NTP
[01:47] <syn-ack> NTP is NTP is NTP
[01:47] <Roasted> syn-ack, why does my NTP hate me
[01:48] <syn-ack> Roasted, it could more of a case that your hardware clock can't keep time and therefore keeps slipping out of the strata it's supposed to be in
[01:48] <Roasted> syn-ack, I'm having a server vs client issue, though. My server is brand new and works fine. But I can't get my clients to dig up the proper time.
[01:48] <Roasted> syn-ack, I talked with the devs of LTSP and they had me run some command against NTP, which thereby suggested I was having NTP issues at the server level.
[01:48] <Roasted> So i'm just trying to learn more about it and see what could be done
[01:49] <syn-ack> Roasted, are you set in the wrong strata?
[01:49] <Roasted> syn-ack, I'm not sure. All I was told to do was install NTP. that's it. Is there more to it?
[01:49] <syn-ack> Roasted, ntp or ntpd?
[01:49] <Roasted> syn-ack, ntp in synaptic
[01:50] <syn-ack> For the client or the server?
[01:50] <Roasted> syn-ack, They said install NTP on the server, then set TIMESERVER=auto in the lts.conf (for the clients) and they should pick it up from server
[01:50] <Roasted> syn-ack, b ut they never do.
[01:50] <syn-ack> Roasted, ok, did you set a server from which it get it's time
[01:50] <syn-ack> ?
[01:51] <Roasted> syn-ack, where do I do that from?
[01:51] <uberspaced> Roasted: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_time_protocol
[01:51] <syn-ack> like what you need to do is point your LAN NTP server something like "time.nist.gov" and then you let that sync for like 2 hrs
[01:51] <MK`> Would it be wise to put /mnt in a separate partition?
[01:51] <Roasted> syn-ack, oh, it takes that long to sync?
[01:51] <Roasted> syn-ack, also, where do I set it at? Where is the fifle located?
[01:52] <syn-ack> Roasted, yeah, because it calculates for jitter and the like
[01:52] <uberspaced> Roasted: man ntpdate
[01:52] <Roasted> uberspaced, been there.
[01:52] <uberspaced> and then start ntpd
[01:52] <Roasted> uberspaced, I have to watch what I do cause Im working with thin clients in the mix, so things are a bit different for me.
[01:52] <violets> Roasted: how long it takes to correct your clock depends on how far off your clock currently is
[01:53] <Roasted> violets, I guess I just thought after 5 minutes it should be done by now, so I left... ha. guess I wasn't patient enough. Hopefully by monday it'll be sync'd though :P
[01:53] <syn-ack> Roasted, Even if it's not that far off, which it rarely is, I tend to give it two hours
[01:53] <violets> ntpdate is a pain; sharp clock correction causes problems :\
[01:53] <Roasted> syn-ack, how often does that happen? that it needs to sync?
[01:53] <uberspaced> violets: it totaly depends ;)
[01:53] <uberspaced> Roasted: read the docs on NTP
[01:53] <Roasted> uberspaced, I am. But I don't see WHERE the file is to edit.
[01:53] <violets> I just leave ntpd running in the background all the time. It works well.
[01:53] <syn-ack> My gateway syncs ever 12 hrs after the initial sync
[01:54] <syn-ack> every, that is
[01:54] <uberspaced> ntp.conf, or ntpd.conf in /etc/ or /etc/default
[01:54] <uberspaced> do: find /etc |grep ntp
[01:54] <violets> uberspaced: sure, sometimes it doesn't cause issues. the NTP devs tend to take the view that an unmaintained piece of software that doesn't have good behavior shouldn't be used, though ;)
[01:54] <Roasted> uberspaced, if I edit my settings in system-administration-timeanddate does that edit NTP directly?
[01:55] <syn-ack> Roasted, after my initial sync, the annual sync only takes like 30 seconds
[01:55] <MK`> Is there a way for me to rename users? (not the display name)
[01:55] <uberspaced> I don't know.  I don't use guis to configure anything :-/
[01:55] <Roasted> uberspaced, I normally don't either. I just found it on google and was curious if it was the same thing.
[01:55] <Roasted> uberspaced, I only use SSH to my server so whatever I do is via term anyway :p
[01:56] <syn-ack> Roasted, Then my clients sync to the server only takes 2 or 3 seconds
[01:56] <uberspaced> MK`: you will have to edit a couple of files to rename users (if your system is not tied into a centralized authentication system)
[01:56] <Roasted> syn-ack, maybe I just wasn't patient enough then.
[01:56] <Roasted> syn-ack, I didn't realize it took that long.
[01:56] <KGB> MK`, still there?
[01:56] <Roasted> syn-ack, not that it's a problem, I just had no idea, so I sat there for a few mins like screw this...
[01:56] <KSHawkEye> MK`: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=64021
[01:56] <syn-ack> again, it totally depends on how far off your hardware clock is
[01:56] <syn-ack> and how accurate it is
[01:56] <MK`> yes
[01:56] <Roasted> syn-ack, hardware clock as in BIOS?
[01:56] <syn-ack> yeah.
[01:57] <Glarbex> I find it is generally best, when starting with a wildly inaccurate clock, to run ntpdate and then start ntpd.
[01:57] <Roasted> syn-ack, lol, these thin clients are old, old old old HP boxes being used as terminals. Some of them even had dead BIOS batteries when I set them up yesterday.
[01:57] <uberspaced> hrm.  my last message didn't show up.
[01:57] <KGB> MK`, I think having the unallocated space on my hard drive just screwed it
[01:57] <uberspaced> oh well.
[01:57] <KB1JWQ> Glarbex: What are you, living in the past? :-)  ntpd has supported step-tickers for ages.
[01:57] <KGB> Well, for now
[01:57] <KGB> My grub file is gone
[01:57] <KGB> (not unusual)
[01:57] <syn-ack> Roasted, and imo, at least, you should keep that server in the UTC timezone
[01:58] <KGB> But
[01:58] <Glarbex> KB1JWQ: Well, I haven't actually done this for a while.
[01:58] <Roasted> syn-ack, UTC?
[01:58] <MK`> thanks for those answers
[01:58] <Glarbex> I was under the impression that ntpd took quite a while after starting up before deciding to change the clock anyway, though.
[01:58] <MK`> KGB: did you install it on the right disk
[01:58] <KGB> I try to remake the grub file, and I now aparently have 3 hard disks
[01:58] <syn-ack> Roasted, Universal Time, Zulu time, GMT, whatever you want to call it
[01:58] <Roasted> ah
[01:58] <sysor> anyone able to answer a really dumb nvidia question for me.  Not specificly ubuntu related, just hardware related in general
[01:58] <Glarbex> Whereas running ntpdate first gets the clock reset straight away.
[01:59] <Roasted> syn-ack, where is the config at for ntp? I'm seeing /etc/ntp.conf but its empty. Not sure if it's supposed to be...
[01:59] <violets> NTPd does not simply change the current time, it changes the length of seconds so that the hardware clock approaches reality.
[01:59] <KGB> MK`, I have one hard disk
[01:59] <violets> This is rather important for several applications, most of which are server-related.
[01:59] <MK`> o_O
[01:59] <tjiggi_fo> sysor, ask and find out
[01:59] <sysor> kk :)
[01:59] <syn-ack> Roasted, are you running Ubuntu Desktop for this server or Ubuntu Server?
[01:59] <KGB> Should I re-add the 91 gb to the windows?
[01:59] <MK`> Go to the disk utility
[01:59] <MK`> tell me what it shows
[01:59] <KGB> On what?
[01:59] <KGB> gparted?
[01:59] <Roasted> syn-ack, Ubuntu Desktop. I'm using Edubuntu actually since I work at a school.
[02:00] <Glarbex> violets: True.
[02:00] <MK`> System > Administration > Disk Utility
[02:00] <KGB> MK`, not on ubuntu
[02:00] <sysor> I'm looking at buying a laptop with an nVidia GTX 460m, now some like asus list it as having 1 gig video ram, while others like toshiba list it has having 1.5 gig.   Whats the deal? can it be over clocked? or does it really come with 2 different ram capasities?
[02:00] <Glarbex> However, if the clock is very wrong, that takes a long time, and one might not be running such applications.
[02:00] <syn-ack> Roasted, That's why it's empty. It's not there in the desktop version, it's handled by gconf, iirc
[02:00] <KGB> I just rebooted onto gparted's liveCD
[02:00] <Roasted> syn-ack, meaning the GUI? (system - admin - time and date?)
[02:00] <unomystEz> I tried installing Ubuntu 10.10 but I get a [drm] nouveau error saying something like "bit 16 expected = 0 but was 0x011000000" or something or other
[02:00] <unomystEz> any ideas?
[02:00] <KB1JWQ> Glarbex: Right.  step-tickers does the equivalent of ntpdate every time you start ntpd.
[02:00] <syn-ack> Roasted, yep
[02:01] <Glarbex> KB1JWQ: Hmm, it does it on startup these days?
[02:01] <unomystEz> I read it could be related to the fact that I have an nvidia quadro card
[02:01] <Roasted> syn-ack, is it wise to have more than 1 server selected? I have quite a list here.
[02:01] <Logan_> !ot | sysor
[02:01] <KB1JWQ> Glarbex: If you populate the step-tickers file it does.
[02:01] <MK`> is it only gparted?
[02:01] <MK`> or is it an ubuntu livecd
[02:01] <tmbg> unomystEz: I too have a quadro. I had to switch to the nv or nvidia driver
[02:01] <KGB> Only gparted
[02:01] <sysor> wup sorry bout that
[02:01] <Glarbex> How long has it been that way for?
[02:01] <syn-ack> Roasted, I do two or three, but it's not really that important, imo
[02:01] <MK`> then yeah, tell me the partitions in order
[02:01] <tmbg> nouveau is broken for my card
[02:01] <unomystEz> tmbg: well this is during the install... so not sure how to do that
[02:01] <syn-ack> tmbg!
[02:01] <Roasted> syn-ack, you the man. thanks for your time. it's appreciated.
[02:01] <syn-ack> oh my
[02:01] <tmbg> unomystEz: use the other installer
[02:02] <unomystEz> tmbg: how is the nv/nvidia driver compared to the nouveau driver?
[02:02] <syn-ack> tmbg, from undernet?
[02:02] <unomystEz> tmbg: which installer?
[02:02] <syn-ack> Roasted, np.
[02:02] <thos_> s'anybody know how to install gnome 3.0 under maverick?
[02:02] <unomystEz> tmbg: alternate.iso?
[02:02] <tmbg> syn-ack: that's TMBG.
[02:02] <tjiggi_fo> sysor, they just use different (read 'more creative') ways of measuring it.
[02:02] <tmbg> unomystEz: exactly
[02:02] <unomystEz> tmbg: okie doke
[02:02] <tmbg> may have to start in text mode.
[02:02] <unomystEz> how do you force text mode?
[02:02] <io> chi può aiutarmi un attimo...sono nuovo
[02:02] <tmbg> then generate and X config, and then change the driver.
[02:02] <tmbg> should be an option in the installer
[02:02] <KGB> /dev/mmcblk0 (7.40 GiB), /dev/sda (465.77 GiB), /dev/sdb (491.88 GiB)
[02:02] <unomystEz> tmbg: hmm, I'll check again.. I only saw some graphical menu
[02:03] <unomystEz> tmbg: in the installer that is
[02:03] <KGB> MK`, The normal disk I have is /dev/sda
[02:03] <KGB> Wait
[02:03] <MK`> is sdb an unrelated disk?
[02:03] <KGB> Uh
[02:03] <tmbg> unomystEz: I think the alternate iso has a text only version
[02:03] <KGB> Could it read a memory stick as a disk?
[02:03] <MK`> yes
[02:03] <KGB> ah
[02:03] <KGB> yes it did
[02:03] <syn-ack> Roasted, See, I block literally everything on my LAN outbound except for what I allow to go, NTP being one of them, so everything has to sync to my LAN's NTP server
[02:04] <KGB> Well, sdb is eliminated now
[02:04] <tmbg> honestly I'm pretty cheese about nouveau being default.
[02:04] <KGB> but
[02:04] <KGB> I don't know what that first one is
[02:04] <tmbg> it's far too broken to be the default driver
[02:04] <unomystEz> tmbg: how is the nv/nvidia driver, just as good (hopefully) as the nouveau?
[02:04] <Roasted> syn-ack, well we're in a production environment at work, which is a school district. I have a time server on windows witht our one domain controller, but like I said I wasn't sure what the heck was wrong with my servers, but I guess I was impatient.
[02:04] <MK`> well
[02:05] <MK`> let's focus on sda
[02:05] <KGB> ok
[02:05] <MK`> what partitions are on it?
[02:05] <metrix> I would like to take a font, tie it some letters and output a bitmap array in memory or even to stdout.. Is there such a thing already made?
[02:05] <tmbg> unomystEz: at least for my card, the nv driver was better.
[02:05] <unomystEz> nice
[02:05] <Roasted> syn-ack, I had just set the TIMEZONE to be Eastern instead of syncing it with the server. TIMEZONE made it come down in 5 minutes or less, but it had to sync with each bootup of the clients. I read more about setting the actual timeserver today and I just had no idea it took a goo dchunk of time to set up initially
[02:05] <metrix> I was thinking something similar to sysvbanner package, but in a binary array format .
[02:05] <tmbg> it's a bit blasphemous because of the binary blob, but my favorite driver is the nvidia binary driver.
[02:05] <unomystEz> I guess the only issue now if I run Ubuntu as my primary desktop is no itunes
[02:05] <tmbg> I always forget if that's nv or nvidia.
[02:05] <unomystEz> unless I can do it via VirtualBox
[02:05] <KGB> sda1, sda2, sda4, sda5, sda6, sda3, then 91mb of unallocated
[02:05] <syn-ack> tmbg, nv
[02:05] <KGB> which used to belong to sda3
[02:06] <KGB> Should I try and give it bacl?
[02:06] <KGB> *back
[02:06] <unomystEz> tmbg: can you do lsmod -v | grep n
[02:06] <MK`> where is linux installed?
[02:06] <tmbg> unomystEz: the machine with the quadro is at home, I'm at work
[02:06] <unomystEz> tmbg: ah
[02:06] <syn-ack> MK`, /boot
[02:06] <KGB> Sda4 is an extended, with sda5 and sda6 contained within it
[02:06] <thos_> rugby is bollocks
[02:06] <KGB> I think sda5 contains my linux
[02:06] <KGB> since it's ext4
[02:07] <unomystEz> hope this flies on my SSD drive
[02:07] <KGB> sda6 is linux-swap
[02:07] <KGB> However
[02:07] <KGB>  /dev/mmcblk0 is fat32, and 7.4 GiB, which is the same as my ubuntu partition...
[02:08] <MK`> I am lost there, I do not know, sorry.
[02:08] <KGB> Oi.
[02:08] <KGB> So.
[02:08] <MK`> hm
[02:08] <KGB> You don't have any idea as to what I should do from here?
[02:09] <MK`> one moment
[02:10] <MK`> where is win7?
[02:10] <KGB> sda3
[02:10] <thos_> well this place has been a waste of time
[02:11] <MK`> did you move it to the end of the drive?
[02:11] <KGB> no, the unallocated is at the end
[02:11] <thos_> KGB teh attention hawg
[02:11] <MK`> how much space?
[02:11] <KGB> Should I just recombine it?
[02:11] <trism> MK`: it appears it is a font issue, I'm trying out otf-yozvox-yozfont and it is displaying it correctly
[02:11] <KGB> The unallocated? Or sda3?
[02:11] <MK`> i tried it in times new roman and monospace
[02:11] <MK`> the unallocated
[02:11] <MK`> thos sorry :(
[02:11] <MK`> damn
[02:11] <KGB> 91
[02:12] <KGB> er
[02:12] <KGB> 91.01gb
[02:12] <MK`> Oh
[02:12] <MK`> what is sda4?
[02:12] <unomystEz> rebooting to try the alternate CD
[02:12] <KGB> Sda4 is an extended
[02:12] <KGB> w/ sda5 and sda6
[02:12] <MK`> weren't you going to remove that?
[02:12] <becky> hi all, i run ubuntu on dell mini 10v and after an upgrade I lost the defaul resolution of 1024x600 an now am stuck in 1024x768 but cant see bottom part
[02:12] <KGB> I was
[02:12] <KGB> but
[02:13] <becky> of screen....help....1024 resolution not showing up
[02:13] <KGB> I decided to wait until tomorrow to do so
[02:13] <Alvarin__> dwarf00
[02:13] <MK`> oh
[02:13] <MK`> did you change anything? lol
[02:13] <KGB> No
[02:13] <MK`> oh
[02:13] <KGB> Should I recombine?
[02:13] <becky> also, when i first boot the dell logo is too far down on the screen....even the bios is in wrong resolution....again bottom cut off
[02:14] <MK`> eh...
[02:14] <MK`> with what?
[02:14] <KGB> gparted
[02:14] <KGB> er
[02:14] <KGB> recombine sda3 and unallocated
[02:14] <MK`> just leave it until you move windows to the end of the drive
[02:14] <MK`> they're separated
[02:14] <MK`> er
[02:14] <KGB> If I recombine it, windows *will* be at the end of the drive
[02:14] <MK`> well if you want to keep it for windows yeah
[02:14] <KGB> Ok
[02:14] <MK`> you can't shrink it to the right :P
[02:15] <KSHawkEye> Who is responsible for compiling the software that can be found in the APT? Canonical?
[02:15] <KGB> wait a second..
[02:15] <MK`> *headdesk*
[02:15] <MK`> wait until you get another HD maybe
[02:15] <MK`> heh
[02:15] <KGB> Uh
[02:16] <KGB> Not going to happen for a bit
[02:16] <MK`> ok
[02:16] <KGB> I need the computer, too
[02:16] <MK`> just combine it into windows
[02:16] <MK`> I'd use windows to do so
[02:16] <SniperViper76> Its time for the horde wave!! omnomnomnomn
[02:16] <becky> hi all, i run ubuntu on dell mini 10v and after an upgrade I lost the defaul resolution of 1024x600 an now am stuck in 1024x768 but cant see bottom part
[02:16] <KGB> Uh.
[02:16] <becky>  also, when i first boot the dell logo is too far down on the screen....even the bios is in wrong resolution....again bottom cut off
[02:17] <KGB> That'll prove a problem
[02:17] <KGB> Since I need a grub file to Access windows...
[02:17] <MK`> how did you lose grub?
[02:17] <KGB> ah, well, lets see if rescatux will work now
[02:17] <KGB> MK`, It happens for random reasons
[02:17] <MK`> ah well
[02:18] <MK`> I can't help with that
[02:18] <KGB> I have a solution for it, I think
[02:19] <semitones> does 10.10 use alsa or pulseaudio for sound?
[02:19] <KGB> The memory stick might have messed up rescatux
[02:19] <xangua> pulse semitones
[02:19] <semitones> ty :)
[02:19] <KGB> to think this was all for minecraft...
[02:20] <MK`> haha
[02:20] <KGB> I didn't have enough space to compile an inventory editor
[02:20] <semitones> Can pulseaudio stream what you're hearing to another computer?
[02:20] <unomystEz> well that is great... the alternate ISO can't be installed from from a USB drive
[02:20] <KGB> so I wanted to make my partition bigger... and you can guess the rest from there
[02:20] <unomystEz> and apparently the desktop ISO doesn't support a text mode installer
[02:20] <unomystEz> so people with nvidia quadro's are screwed
[02:21] <syn-ack> semitones, both
[02:21] <unomystEz> (unless they have optical drives)
[02:21] <semitones> syn-ack, that wasn't a "both" question?
[02:21] <syn-ack> semitones, ALSA is the kernel sound framework. Pulseaudio is just a soundserver.
[02:21] <KGB> Ohhhh!
[02:21] <semitones> syn-ack, oh ok :)
[02:21] <KGB> I figured out what the other drive was!
[02:22] <syn-ack> semitones, so, yeah, it was. :P
[02:22] <suicidolt> I installed clamtk from the ubuntu software center, but it says "a new version is available" when I click update.  I went to the website and downloaded it, but it's a tar.gz file.  How do I install it?
[02:22] <MK`> oh?
[02:22] <SniperViper76> Well
[02:22] <KGB> An SDHC card
[02:22] <semitones> syn-ack, i thought you were answering the second question
[02:22] <semitones> syn-ack, Can pulseaudio stream what you're hearing to another computer?
[02:23] <syn-ack> semitones, heh, I actually didn't see the second question.
[02:23]  * KGB really needs to check all his ports before he turns on his computer
[02:23] <syn-ack> semitones, and yes, Pulse can do that.
[02:23] <semitones> syn-ack, awesome! /me goes and does it
[02:23] <syn-ack> supposedly. I don't know how to do that, though
[02:24] <KGB> MK`, thanks for the help! (again)
[02:24] <semitones> syn-ack, there are instructions here i think https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PulseAudio
[02:24] <MK`> np :P
[02:24] <KGB> Well, I'll just go clear some space for my minecraft things now
[02:25] <syn-ack> Man, JPJ and Jimmy Page from Zep did a darn good cover of "Rock n Roll" with the Foo Fighters
[02:28] <anth_> hi all
[02:29] <taco_the_paco> hey, is there anyway to install ubuntu inside of windows without wubi? :|
[02:29] <anth_> use VM ware of virtual box
[02:30] <anth_> then install from those clients
[02:30] <taco_the_paco> (i want to be able to dualboot with windows)
[02:30] <anth_> then you will need to install ubuntu on a seperate partition
[02:30] <anth_> or with wubi
[02:31] <anth_> determine how much you think your going to use it and take it from there
[02:35] <semitones> can you load modules to pulseaudio whenever you want? or only when it's starting.
[02:38] <kostkon> semitones, pactl load-module *module_name*
[02:38] <semitones> kostkon, thank you :)
[02:42] <bc81> hi again.  i need to set the resolution of my file server to 1360x768 (it has no monitor) but when i do "xrandr -s 1360x768" it says, "Size 1360x768 not found in available modes"  it's for Xubuntu 10.10, any ideas on how to trick the OS into thinking a monitor with that native resolution is connected?
[02:44] <shuai> oh\
[02:44] <Ray2> What sub do I add to uname to get distro version
[02:44] <tensorpudding> bc81: how exactly are you using it? x11 forwarding?
[02:44] <inaxio> hey, ok so im having a problem with 2 partitions; i cannot mount, umount, or fsck them.  i am still unsure what to do, and i am currently on a livecd.  i can provide any information you need to help fix this, so please help!
[02:45] <bc81> tensorpudding: well, i'm connecting to it with vnc over my home network
[02:48] <judgepg> inaxio: what is the output of dmesg?  Do you see them in /dev/sdx?
[02:48] <Gaming4JC> Would anyone know how to get gnome3 on 10.10?
[02:48] <judgepg> inaxio: I mean do you see a device in /dev/sdX that relates to the HDD partitions?
[02:48] <Gaming4JC> and has there been any issues...
[02:49] <inaxio> judgepg: all the partitions are there in /dev
[02:49] <dubs_> inaxio, as root type blkid and post the output
[02:50] <inaxio> dubs_: http://pastebin.com/1jjeAgs4
[02:50] <inaxio> judgepg: dmesg | grep sda http://pastebin.com/HdcdZmXK
[02:51] <phoenixsampras> help! anyone with experience on Asterix?
[02:51] <dubs_> so what does it say when you try to fsck the drive
[02:51] <kingsley> Does anyone here happen to know if a PDF reader, (like xpdf or evince) lets you highlight text? If so, which one?
[02:52] <inaxio> dubs_: fsck.ext4: Device or resource busy while trying to open /dev/sda1
[02:52] <inaxio> dubs_: it is infact, NOT mounted
[02:53] <KevinLaptop> On my laptop, I duel boot Windows 7 and Ubuntu 10.10. On Ubuntu, the internet is much slower then it is on Windblows. Anyway that I can fix this?
[02:54] <Gaming4JC> KevinLaptop: Some say disabling IPV6 helps. Else install wireshark and see what's going on ;)
[02:54] <bobby> hola
[02:55] <Gaming4JC> !es | bobby
[02:55] <bobby> hello
[02:56] <bobby> yes
[02:56] <KevinLaptop> Gaming4JC: K, I'll try it. thanks.
[02:56] <|Long|> what is the cmd to scandisk?
[02:57] <judgepg> inaxio: you could still run a check if it's not mounted.  Have you tried fsck -fC /dev/sda1
[02:57] <inaxio> judgepg: ill try that
[02:57] <KevinLaptop> Gaming4JC: IPV6 is off.
[02:58] <inaxio> judgepg: same output
[02:58] <bc81> |Long|: man fsck
[02:59] <judgepg> Any luck with e2fsck?
[02:59] <v14d> ppl i need help
[02:59] <Gaming4JC> KevinLaptop: Hmm, I'm not sure then. This used to be good, but I see now it's a bit dated (2007) http://ubuntulinuxhelp.com/speed-up-your-internet-connection-in-ubuntu-linux/
[02:59] <MuNKyN1Nj4> NickServ identify cb029557
[03:00] <bazhang> MuNKyN1Nj4, better change that
[03:00] <bazhang> v14d, with what?
[03:00] <Gaming4JC> KevinLaptop: On my PC there isn't much difference in Win7 vs. Ubuntu, could be drivers for wifi card or adapter I suppose...
[03:00] <v14d> i dont have sound
[03:00] <v14d> after trying to config my sound spdif 5.1
[03:00] <bazhang> v14d, try alsamixer in terminal and unmute the various channels
[03:00] <KevinLaptop> Gaming4JC: Well, its only on my laptop. On my desktop the internet is perfectly fine.
[03:00] <v14d> i only have sound on movies 5.1 smplayer no sounds on system or music or movies 2.1
[03:01] <judgepg> inaxio: Try using the Slack live cd
[03:01] <judgepg> see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1674709
[03:01] <nixjr> is kernal 2.6.33 or higher out for ubuntu?
[03:01] <Gaming4JC> KevinLaptop: If you're using Wifi that may be why, but perhaps others can give other advice on this subject
[03:01] <Gaming4JC> :)
[03:01] <bazhang> nixjr, what version of ubuntu
[03:02] <bazhang> !info linux
[03:02] <KevinLaptop> Gaming4JC: ok, thanks :P
[03:02] <nixjr> bazhang, ill be doing a fresh install so whatever the latest is
[03:02] <bazhang> nixjr, ^
[03:02] <v14d> they arent muted  as i said only sound on movies 5.1 on smplayer no sound on system, music or movies 2.1
[03:03] <nixjr> bazhang, if i download the iso from the ubuntu site will it have the latest kernal built in, or wil it have an old one and ill have to run a bunch of updates after install?
[03:03] <bazhang> nixjr, should have one higher than you are asking, not sure of the exact one on the livecd though
[03:03] <v14d> not sound on youtube or other webpage tho
[03:04] <nixjr> bazhang, im planning on getting a ssd and was told i need trim, which is only on kernal 2.6.33 or higher, just wnated ot make sure it was there from the get go of my install
[03:04] <bazhang> nixjr, I'd expect so, yeah
[03:07] <Khisanth> v14d: do you have some other thing that plays audio running at the same time? just running not necessarily playing
[03:08] <v14d> Khisanth,  yeah different movies until the movie is ac3 5.1 it has sound on smplayer not on vlc, no sound on system or webpages or mp3 o other sound tho
[03:08] <v14d> Khisanth,  oh i get it no no i alreade restarted system
[03:10] <MikeDD> The problem has been fixed, regarding sudden inability to write to drive.
[03:10] <Wade> .whois mikedd
[03:10] <MikeDD> yeah, who am I?  :)
[03:10] <Abhijit> Wade, its /whois
[03:10] <jrmcm> does anyone know what repo the "dog" package is in?
[03:10] <Wade> Thanks : )
[03:11] <Abhijit> !info dog
[03:11] <jrmcm> ok then can "cat" read urls?
[03:12] <MikeDD> So anyway, the hard drive wasnt letting me have write access.. it turns out that I needed to run Disk Warrior on the mac to rebuild the drive
[03:13] <MikeDD> An improper shutdown or dismount caused it so have errors and Disk Warrior sorted it out.
[03:13] <MikeDD> I just clicked rebuild, problem solved.
[03:14] <gyrados> hey guys how are you tonight
[03:14] <uberspaced> not too shabby
[03:14] <ponicalica> Does anyone know why my ethernet connection would claim to be up yet periodically completely stop sending or recieving packets?
[03:14] <Jasen_> I have an issue. I was messing with the setting for compiz and I disabled opengl which caused unity to crash, and even when i re-enabled everything and restarted ubuntu, unity is still broken. Anybody know why unity wont start? Compiz returns with "Couldn't open display"
[03:15] <jrmcm> I need a way to pull a list of links from a website then search it with grep
[03:15] <jrmcm> preferably from the cl
[03:15] <ubuntu> hola !
[03:15] <di_giorgio> Mp3player [13 - I Don´t Know What To Do] CeBoLiNhA 2011
[03:15] <ubuntu> hi!
[03:15] <gyrados> i have a question, can anybody help me figure out how to bind certain processes to specific network interfaces like firefox to wlan0 chrome to wlan1?
[03:16] <MikeDD> I will be back later, inevitably right after I break something again....
[03:16] <Jasen_> I have an issue. I was messing with the setting for compiz and I disabled opengl which caused unity to crash, and even when i re-enabled everything and restarted ubuntu, unity is still broken. Anybody know why unity wont start? Compiz returns with "Couldn't open display"
[03:16] <MikeDD> You guys have a great night!
[03:16] <neto> sou novo no linux alguem pode me ajudar usar esse chat
[03:17] <xangua> !pt | neto
[03:17] <Tux3d> i have to copy some files from one of my partitions and i cant seem to find them, anyone could tell me where they are? Im using Slitaz
[03:18] <neto> digito isso  aonde  onde eu digito as msg mesmo
[03:18] <LukasB> Hi, I am trying to install ubuntu on vmplayer... I think I need to install vm tools, but I think I need to put some commands into the ubuntu terminal... unfortunately I have the feeling ubunte expects me to have an english keyboard to put the commands in... what do I do?
[03:18] <jrmcm> I need a way to pull a list of links from a website then search it with grep
[03:18] <jrmcm> preferably from the cl
[03:18] <NixGeek> I've tried to use every screen recorder I could find, but all
[03:19] <_Pksadiq> I got a laptop with broken screen, Half of the screen works, so how can I specify that area as my screen atleast on tty?
[03:19] <jrmcm> LukasB: when you install ubuntu you can choose what keyboard you use
[03:20] <Jasen_> I have an issue. I was messing with the setting for compiz and I disabled opengl which caused unity to crash, and even when i re-enabled everything and restarted ubuntu, unity is still broken. Anybody know why unity wont start? Compiz returns with "Couldn't open display"
[03:20] <Tux3d> i have to copy some files from one of my partitions and i cant seem to find them, anyone could tell me where they are? Im using Slitaz
[03:20] <Khisanth> jrmcm: curl or wget
[03:20] <Khisanth> curl url | grep would work :)
[03:21] <Khisanth> hopefully not on HTML
[03:21] <Awake_Atlast> Can anyone help me? Im trying to get ubuntu up and running on my Dell Mini netbook.. I've been trying all day to get it working.
[03:21] <Jasen_> I have an issue. I was messing with the setting for compiz and I disabled opengl which caused unity to crash, and even when i re-enabled everything and restarted ubuntu, unity is still broken. Anybody know why unity wont start? Compiz returns with "Couldn't open display"
[03:21] <gyrados> Jasen_: perhaps some dpkg reconfiguring?
[03:21] <uberspaced> Awake_Atlast: what are you stuck on?
[03:22] <jrmcm> Khisanth: thx brb gonna try it
[03:22] <Awake_Atlast> Well, ubutuntu hardy 8.04 was on it uberspaced
[03:22] <NixGeek> I've tried to use every screen recorder I could find, but all the vildeos are choppy (like 1 frame a second).  I'm using lucid, and have a ati radeon hd 4670, with the proprietary fglrx drivers.
[03:22] <Jasen_> gyrados: Lol, i've never used dpkg to be honest o.O
[03:22] <LukasB> jrmcm: Hmm... I think I haven't installed ubuntu yet... The black screen came up, I put in username and password and nothing further would happen... Just the at the bottom of vm player it wanted me to install vm tools and in the help I found some codes... I assumed I could put it in that black screen cause it wants me to use them in the guest system...
[03:22] <gyrados> i think dpkg --reconfigure
[03:22] <gyrados> may fix it?
[03:22] <uberspaced> Awake_Atlast: and what's wrong now?
[03:22] <Jasen_> Let me try...
[03:22] <Awake_Atlast> uberspaced:  so i downloaded the latest live dist and put it onto the usb. but now i think i really messed it up
[03:22] <LukasB> jrmcm: not codes sorry... commands
[03:22] <gyrados> run it at unity and compiz
[03:23] <Dionysus2m> new to linux. cant get broadcom 4312 wireless card to work. have installed .inf with ndiswrapper, ran b43fwcutter, and am currently using the STA driver. still says "disconnected" any ideas?
[03:23] <Jasen_> I have an issue. I was messing with the setting for compiz and I disabled opengl which caused unity to crash, and even when i re-enabled everything and restarted ubuntu, unity is still broken. Anybody know why unity wont start? Compiz returns with "Couldn't open display"
[03:23] <Awake_Atlast> uberspaced: when booting from the usb it will return the message MBR and thats about it.
[03:23] <uberspaced> Awake_Atlast: I've had this weird experience where I couldn't (recently) dd an iso to a usb stick, I _had_ to burn it to a dvd and use that
[03:23] <uberspaced> it was on an acer netbook
[03:24] <Awake_Atlast> uberspaced:  Yea, i dont have an external drive =/
[03:24] <uberspaced> and believe me, I tried many different ways of putting the iso on the usb stick.
[03:24] <uberspaced> Try downloading a different distro, and see if that boots.
[03:24] <uberspaced> Or, use netboot.
[03:24] <uberspaced> I'd use netboot
[03:25] <Jasen_> I have an issue. I was messing with the setting for compiz and I disabled opengl which caused unity to crash, and even when i re-enabled everything and restarted ubuntu, unity is still broken. Anybody know why unity wont start? Compiz returns with "Couldn't open display"
[03:25] <Awake_Atlast> Also, i kinda tried formatting the partition from within the terminal to get ready for the new install
[03:25] <Awake_Atlast> maybe that is the issue, but then again ive also tried booting into gparted
[03:25] <uberspaced> Try different isos, different usb sticks etc
[03:26] <NixGeek> !repeat | Jasen_
[03:26] <jrmcm> LukasB:What os are you running vm on?
[03:26] <Jasen_> ubottu: k
[03:26] <Awake_Atlast> Jasen_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=563574
[03:27] <NixGeek> !ubotu | Jasen_
[03:28] <root> hi
[03:29] <jrmcm> Khisanth: Does curl not work with html?
[03:29] <Khisanth> jrmcm: curl works for anything that is accessible through a url
[03:30] <tarsha> I installed ubuntu next to windows 7 now when it boots it asks me if i want to boot windows 7 or ubuntu.  if i pick windows it boots fine.  if i pick ubuntu instead of it listing kernels it tells me "windows has failed to boot.  please use windows disc to repair."
[03:30] <jrmcm> ok thx
[03:30] <tarsha> File: Ubuntu\winboot\wubildr.mbr  status: 0x0000225  Will not load due to the application being missing or corrupt.
[03:30] <tjiggi_fo> rootirc | Guest72866
[03:30] <LukasB> jrmcm: win7
[03:30] <tarsha> anyone know?
[03:30] <tjiggi_fo> !rootirc | Guest72866
[03:30] <xangua> tarsha: installed ubuntu first¿
[03:31] <tarsha> xangua: nah i had win 7 installed first
[03:31] <tarsha> but i was updating ubuntu 10.04 to 11.04
[03:31] <jrmcm> Lukas: Yeah I had quite a few problems with vm and win7, I ended up just dual booting my system.
[03:31] <xangua> !natty | tarsha
[03:32] <NixGeek> I've tried to use every screen recorder I could find, but all the vildeos are choppy (like 1 frame a second).  I'm using lucid, and have a ati radeon hd 4670, with the proprietary fglrx drivers.  How can I record decent video WITHOUT DISABLING FGLRX?
[03:32] <syn-ack> tarsha, you don't need to be root to do that. That's what sudo's for
[03:32] <tarsha> I dont need root for what?
[03:32] <syn-ack> tarsha, Upgrading
[03:33] <tarsha> i used a usb and upgraded
[03:33] <tarsha> deleted my linux partiton first then selected install ubuntu alongside windows
[03:34] <phoenixsampras> dual boot usually ends in tear
[03:34] <phoenixsampras> s
[03:35] <bcbc2> tarsha: usually you'll get that if the wubildr.mbr is missing... or windows can't find it
[03:35] <tarsha> bcb2: so how would i fix it?
[03:36] <bcbc2> tarsha: confirm that wubildr.mbr is there, then use easyBCD or bcdedit.exe to confirm that the BCD entry is pointing at the right place
[03:37] <tarsha> bcbc2: do you have a guide?  I have no idea what that means.
[03:37] <bcbc2> tarsha: look on your usb in the \ubuntu\winboot\ folder and make sure wubildr.mbr is there
[03:37] <Theaxiom> I just installed ubuntu server on a box, and the hostname is set, but when I ping it from windows it does not resolve. What do I need to do?
[03:38] <SniperViper76> Well
[03:38] <Theaxiom> When I ping the IP it's fine, but the hostname, it's not.
[03:38] <Theaxiom> I can SSH in thru the IP because I installed OpenSSH
[03:38] <tarsha> on the usb i used to install linux off with u netbootin?
[03:38] <tarsha> i deleted it and put supergub on it to try and fix the problem but that didnt work either
[03:39] <bcbc2> tarsha: that error is windows trying to boot Wubi from wherever you installed it. That's the place you need to look
[03:40] <bcbc2> tarsha: i.e. if you installed to drive 'D:' look for D:\ubuntu\winboot\wubildr.mbr
[03:40] <tarsha> ah ok ill check h
[03:41] <Danielcg25> After using Aircrack on Ubuntu, Windows 7 cant connect to the Internet via my Wi-Fi network.
[03:41] <tarsha> ah i cant access the linux drive from windows
[03:42] <Danielcg25> Do I have to take the card out of Monitor Mode?
[03:42] <tarsha> what do i do if the wubi is there?  what do i do if its not?
[03:43] <Tux_> how do i get r/w privileges to a app (iso mounter) from the terminal to a specific location?
[03:43] <Zorlin> hey guys
[03:43] <bcbc2> tarsha: that Ubuntu entry in the windows boot manager was put there by you doing a Wubi install
[03:44] <Danielcg25> I even uninstalled the driver in Windows 7 and rebooted twice
[03:44] <Zorlin> so I have an apache2 installation, built from source
[03:44] <bcbc2> tarsha: the drive you installed to will have an \ubuntu directory. If that is no longer present, you don't have a wubi install anymore and that boot entry will do nothing
[03:44] <tarsha> oh i see.  yes i installed first with wubi.  then deleted the partiton and used unetbootin to install.
[03:44] <Zorlin> how do I enable mod_ssl? having major issues
[03:44] <Danielcg25> I've run all the diagnostic things.
[03:44] <Zorlin> I can't find the a2enmod script
[03:45] <bcbc2> tarsha: ok so use easybcd to delete that entry from the Windows boot manager
[03:45] <bcbc2> tarsha: it's not good for anything anymore
[03:45] <tarsha> and then i will be able to boot linux?
[03:46] <Awake_Atlast> when formatting a usb stick for use with applying a fresh install what format is optimal? FAT? Or Fat32? =/
[03:46] <tarsha> never heard of easybcd before
[03:46] <bcbc2> tarsha: you can use bcdedit.exe if you prefer but easybcd is supposed to be easier
[03:47] <bcbc2> tarsha: if you installed Ubuntu you would have been prompted to install the grub2 bootloader - that's what you need to boot your new install
[03:47] <timClicks> my laptop's trackpad hasn't worked since I upgraded to 10.10
[03:47] <Theaxiom> I just installed ubuntu server on a box, and the hostname is set, but when I ping it from windows it does not resolve. What do I need to do?
[03:48] <Theaxiom> When I ping the IP it's fine, but the hostname, it's not.
[03:48] <Theaxiom> I can SSH in thru the IP because I installed OpenSSH
[03:48] <tarsha> it is installed though.  i can use supergrub to boot into it.
[03:48] <timClicks> any ideas on how to diagnose what's wrong & fix?
[03:48] <tarsha> ubuntu that is
[03:48] <bcbc2> tarsha: sometimes when you install from USB it puts the bootloader on the USB by accident, so try booting from the USB again, and then re-install the grub2 bootloader
[03:48] <Zorlin> how do I enable mod_ssl on an Apache2 2.2.17 installation (built from source), given that my system says a2enmod doesn't actually exist? (Ubuntu 10.04)
[03:49] <tarsha> is there an option to reinstall grub?  i selected install alongside wndows and it loaded and never gave me any other prompts.  just installed then rebooted
[03:49] <pcpower_> I have a monitor that will not work on any resolution higher than 640x480 on Ubuntu, but on windows it works at 1920x1200. Also I'm using the proprietary nvidia driver (and I have to, for 3D accel). Any idea how to fix this?
[03:49] <timClicks> Zorlin, you should check the apache2 docs
[03:49] <Theaxiom> Zorlin, create a symlink in mods_enabled
[03:49] <GatunoRox> hello
[03:49] <Theaxiom> Zorlin, do you know about mods_enabled and mods_available?
[03:49] <LukasB> hello
[03:50] <GatunoRox> I'm having a little trouble with my Grub installed on USB HDD
[03:50] <GatunoRox> on my Pc, the device mapping (hd0,0) where the grub is installed, the grub boots fine
[03:50] <Danielcg25> Ok now it's working. I rebooted a third time, and apparently that ixe it
[03:51] <whitenoise_wn> what is the best app to take an insert of an *audio cd*, then rip and encode using LAME highest settings and save the mp3s to a *SMB* shared directory (in one app)?
[03:51] <bcbc2> tarsha: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1014708
[03:51] <GatunoRox> when I change the computer, it identifies my USB HDD with other device names, like (hd1,0) and so on, thus leaving grub unuseful
[03:52] <Zorlin> Theaxiom: Hi, I tried that
[03:52] <Zorlin> ssl.conf and ssl.load are in mods_available, and I symlinked them into mods_enabled
[03:52] <Theaxiom> Zorlin, is your apache2.conf set to look in that directory?
[03:52] <tarsha> bcbc2: I tried that but when I run find /boot/grub/stage1 it tells me it failed to find the file
[03:52] <bcbc2> tarsha: if you can boot your ubuntu, then usually "sudo grub-install /dev/sda" is all you need. But you should check that guide to make sure you're installing to the correct drive
[03:52] <Zorlin> Theaxiom: how do I check that?
[03:52] <Theaxiom> Zorlin, read apache docs
[03:52] <bcbc2> tarsha: that's grub legacy, you want grub2
[03:52] <pcpower_> whitenoise_wn: any program can save to an SMB mount
[03:52] <violets> Theaxiom, Zorlin: investigate a2enmod and a2dismod.
[03:52] <GatunoRox> Can I define the root for grub stage2 so its won't change when using other computers?
[03:52] <Zorlin> violets: a2enmod isn't on this system
[03:53] <theRealBallchalk> hello
[03:53] <violets> not Ubuntu :(
[03:53] <Zorlin> violets: it is ubuntu
[03:53] <theRealBallchalk> who's running linux on a Mac Mini?
[03:53] <Zorlin> apache is compiled/installed from source
[03:53] <violets> not Ubuntu packaging :(
[03:53] <Zorlin> ...
[03:53] <tarsha> so i got that error because i was trying to install grub legacy?
[03:54] <bcbc2> tarsha: trying to find grub/stage1? Yes
[03:54] <tarsha>  yeah
[03:54] <tarsha> it said the same thing when i tried to use supergrub install grub
[03:56] <Zorlin> Theaxiom: can I get any pointers other than "read the apache docs"?
[03:56] <Zorlin> o
[03:56] <Zorlin> i've been digging through documentation all day =_=
[03:56] <bcbc2> tarsha: grub2 has been standard on ubuntu since release 9.10
[03:57] <xmarkoz> hello
[03:58] <tarsha> so i just need to try to reinstall grub2?
[03:58] <tarsha> can i do that from the software center?
[03:59] <GatunoRox> Can someone help me troubleshoot my grub on external HDD?
[03:59] <oitofelix> hello all!
[03:59] <bcbc2> tarsha: grub2 is already installed. enter "grub-install -v" to confirm. You just need the bootloader
[04:00] <tarsha> k go to terminal and grub-install -v  thats all?
[04:00] <bcbc2> tarsha: that's to confirm it's installed. What version does it tell you?
[04:01] <tarsha> im on windows right now.  i will have to reboot and come back into irc
[04:01] <bcbc2> tarsha: ok don't bother
[04:01] <bcbc2> tarsha: if you installed 10.10 you have grub2 installed
[04:02] <tarsha> i installed 11.04
[04:02] <bcbc2> tarsha: same deal - you have grub2
[04:04] <Zorlin> meh, never mind
[04:04] <tarsha> so i need to find a guide on restoring grub 2?
[04:04] <Zorlin> i'm just going to build the freakin' module in
[04:04] <j5> since upgrading to firefox 4, my flash has lots of flickering, missing chunks, and other weirdness. anyone know of a fix? (ubuntu 10.10)
[04:04] <pragmaticenigma> downgrade back to the version of firefox supported by ubuntu
[04:05] <pragmaticenigma> otherwise you will need to refer your question towards the firefox room
[04:05] <Dionysus2m> new to linux. trouble getting broadcomm 4312 wireless to work. tried steps on ubuntu's site with no joy. have b43 installed, installed driver .inf with ndiswrapper, and cmwl-kernel-source. any ideas?
[04:06] <GatunoRox> Is someone in there that could help me with my Grub problems?
[04:06] <druciferre> Anyone familiar with configuring hardware sound profiles in Ubuntu?
[04:06] <bcbc2> tarsha: that link I gave you above shows how to identify your drive. Boot ubuntu, check it and if it's /dev/sda, then run "sudo grub-install /dev/sda". That's it
[04:07] <tarsha> ubuntu is on /dev/sda5
[04:07] <bcbc2> tarsha: ok so that should do it
[04:08] <tarsha> so sudo grub-install /dev/sda5?
[04:08] <tarsha> k
[04:08] <bcbc2> tarsha: No
[04:08] <tarsha> oh lol
[04:08] <bcbc2> tarsha: that link I gave you above shows how to identify your drive. Boot ubuntu, check it and if it's /dev/sda, then run "sudo grub-install /dev/sda". That's it
[04:08] <tarsha> k
[04:08] <tarsha> ill be back
[04:08] <Awake_Atlast> tarsha: sudo can also be used  su grub-instal /dev/sda
[04:08] <tarsha> thanks for the help btw
[04:09] <bcbc2> tarsha: no prob good luck
[04:12] <dsnyders> !backup
[04:13] <doomrobo> how do I set up touchegg to work with my macbook pro?
[04:13] <Dionysus2m> new to linux. trouble getting broadcomm 4312 wireless to work. tried steps on ubuntu's site with no joy. have b43 installed, installed driver .inf with ndiswrapper, and cmwl-kernel-source. any ideas?
[04:13] <druciferre> Anyone know how to enable digital and analog output in the hardware sound profile ?
[04:14] <doomrobo> I installed the xf86 drivers and xorg-input-synapics but whenever I start up touchegg, it just gives me "Reading config from '/home/x/.touchegg/touchegg.conf' " and just stays there
[04:15] <timClicks> my trackpad isn't available via `cat /proc/bus/input/devices`, any suggestions on how to enable the computer to find it?
[04:28] <Jerub> i'm having trouble with 802.11n networking on my x200s with an intel 5100 wireless card, after upgrading to 11.04.
[04:28] <Jerub> i'm wondering if anyone knows a good place to go to find later or earlier kernels to test possible fixes for my problem?
[04:29] <pragmaticenigma> 11.04 is officially released and not supported at this time
[04:29] <pragmaticenigma> !natty | Jerub
[04:29] <Jerub> that's excellent. thank you for stating the obvious. i'm attempting to resolve a probable problem with the unreleased distribution and would like to perhaps get it fixed before release.
[04:30] <Jerub> you know, because it's the responsible thing to do.
[04:30] <pragmaticenigma> Use the room #ubuntu+1 or report a bug to the bug tracking system... there are not very many developers monitoring this room for that sort of thing
[04:30] <Jerub> thank-you
[04:32] <I-are-> can anyone tell me if linux uses ttf files for fonts and if so where they are stored in the filesystem?
[04:32] <Dionysus2m> i cant get my wireless to see anything. it still says disconnected. any ideas what i should try next?
[04:33] <I-are-> or where I can find fonts that will work with blender?
[04:33] <pragmaticenigma> I-are-: TTF fonts were originally liscensed and required a fee to use... you can install ubuntu-restricted-extras which will install some TTF fonts
[04:33] <dsnyders> I-are-, you could issue a find command to locate them.
[04:33] <pragmaticenigma> Dionysus2m: Is your wireless access point set to broadcast its SSID?
[04:34] <Dionysus2m> yes
[04:34] <I-are-> pragmaticenigma, and if I do not want to use the ttf fonts then, where an I find linux fonts?
[04:34] <dsnyders> I-are-, find / -iname *ttf -print
[04:34] <pragmaticenigma> Dionysus2m: when setting up your connection there could be a checkbox to connect to a hidden network
[04:35] <Dionysus2m> prag: have two other comps online
[04:35] <gtech> hello, I reinstalled xorg because my graphics driver configuration was messed up, now my desktop is not only inverted, but it's a mirror image. How do I go about reconfiguring this?
[04:35] <pragmaticenigma> Dionysus2m: Sometimes I have found that I have to turn on the broadcast SSID temporarily so that it can find the AP then turn off the SSID broadcast
[04:36] <Dionysus2m> SSID broadcast is on. its not seeing any. it says disconnected.
[04:36] <pragmaticenigma> I-are-: I'm not familiar with fonts, just know that TTF fonts only recently lost their patent and therefore are now more open
[04:36] <pragmaticenigma> Dionysus2m: Have you attempted to reboot since setting it up?
[04:37] <Dionysus2m> prag: several times. ive installed b43, and bcmwl-kernel as well as install the .inf using ndiswrap
[04:37] <CarlFK> I-are-: /usr/share/fonts/truetype/freefont/FreeMono.ttf
[04:37] <JamezQ> Dionysus2m: Try installing wicd?
[04:38] <pragmaticenigma> Dionysus2m: Did you first try install drivers via the Restricted Drivers tool?
[04:39] <Dionysus2m> prag: restricted dirvers tool? how do you do that?
[04:39] <jelso> Hi #ubuntu! I installed the natty beta but I can't get it to boot now. No grub menu. It just falls back to my windows install. How can I get grub to load?
[04:39] <pragmaticenigma> Dionysus2m: It might be too late but it's under your System => administration menu
[04:40] <CarlFK> jelso: install maverick
[04:40] <Dionysus2m> prag: then hardware drivers? i dont see anything for restricted drivers
[04:40] <pragmaticenigma> !natty | jelso
[04:41] <Dionysus2m> i have not tried wicd yet...
[04:41] <pragmaticenigma> I'm not running Ubuntu (I use Kubuntu) so my menus are different from yours
[04:41] <jelso> Sorry...
[04:41] <JamezQ> jelso: Yup, report it, but natty is just in beta, wait a week for beta 2
[04:41] <frybye> Hi - no one seems to be active in #ubuntu+1 perhaps sbdy here can help me - I installed compiz (in natty-) and seems that was a real bad idea - now unity is gone even after uninstalling compiz...
[04:41] <CarlFK> Dionysus2m: system, "Additional Drivers"
[04:42] <pragmaticenigma> thanks CarlFK
[04:42] <fission6> how do i give the current user (me) read and write permissions on /var/www/public
[04:42] <pragmaticenigma> JamezQ: He really should just wait for the general release
[04:42] <Tom-B> For the last 6.5 years I've been having an affair with a married woman 17 years my senior.
[04:42] <Dionysus2m> prag: dont see "additional drivers" anywhere
[04:43] <Tom-B> I left her today, fully drove round and told her I was leaving
[04:43] <JamezQ> fission6: chown youruser:youruser /var/www/public OR
[04:43] <pragmaticenigma> fission6: chmod 664
[04:43] <JamezQ> fission6: ^ that
[04:43] <Tom-B> her pillow smells amazing
[04:43] <fission6> just chmod 664
[04:43] <pragmaticenigma> fission6: I don't recommend changing the owner or group on the file since then your web server may no longer be able to access those files
[04:44] <pragmaticenigma> fission6: no, run "man chmod" for a better explanation
[04:44] <fission6> yeah i want to be able to allow another process running my home directory write to that folder, i still want it owned
[04:44] <fission6> by root
[04:44] <pragmaticenigma> !chmod
[04:44] <JamezQ> wait, woulden't he need chmod 665, not 664
[04:45] <JamezQ> 664 is just read
[04:45] <Dionysus2m> prag: which wicd should i install?...all?
[04:45] <pragmaticenigma> fission6: if you are running a seperate program, you could execute it as "sudo programname"
[04:45] <fission6> hmmm
[04:45] <pragmaticenigma> it would be able to access and modify those folders without changing the file permissions
[04:45] <Gval> Hi guys
[04:45] <CarlFK> pragmaticenigma: sudo for that is kinda overkill
[04:45] <fission6> well either way that permissioning is still not letting the process right
[04:45] <pragmaticenigma> JamezQ: You don't want executable files in your web server folder
[04:45] <Gval> may i have some help about partition table ?
[04:46] <ylmf> ???
[04:46] <JamezQ> pragmaticenigma: ah, I meant chmod 666
[04:46] <Gval> i need to restore it but i can-t ead that
[04:46] <CarlFK> fission6: i generally point the webserver to a dir that the user has write perms to
[04:46] <JamezQ> pragmaticenigma: 5 would be read+ex, but 6 should be read+write like he wants
[04:46] <gtech> hello, I reinstalled xorg because my graphics driver configuration was messed up, now my desktop is not only inverted, but it's a mirror image. How do I go about reconfiguring this? I'm using ubuntu 10.10
[04:46] <pragmaticenigma> JamezQ: still don't recommend that since it allows any user/group to modify files
[04:47] <Gval> read
[04:47] <taco_the_paco> is there a way i can install ubuntu within windows 7? i want to be able to dual boot, i do not have a flash/cd drive, and wubi doesn't give me an option to install, it just says "demo and full installation, Learn more"
[04:47] <JamezQ> pragmaticenigma: I see
[04:47] <fission6> CarlFK, right i am trying to create a dir but to no luck i keep getting write permission issues from my server which is running as me
[04:47] <pragmaticenigma> 664 alows groups and users to modify the file but all other processes users and groups can only read the file
[04:47] <CarlFK> fission6: "server running as me" ?
[04:48] <milamber> !permissions
[04:48] <pragmaticenigma> fission6: you will need to create the directory using sudo then change the pemissions so you can access it from your user account
[04:48] <JamezQ> pragmaticenigma: Yea, I get that, but I would assume he is not in the user, or group. But yea, you are right, thanks for educating me a bit.
[04:48] <Gval> may i have some help about partition table ? iah accidentally deleted it and now im running linux with liveCD
[04:49] <bcbc2> taco_the_paco: http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/windows-installer
[04:49] <JamezQ> Speaking of which, would it be wise to add your user to www-data group, or something like that to get access to /var/www without changing permissions
[04:49] <fission6> ok i just created the directory using sudo now i should change the owner of that folder? and then the permissions? pragmaticenigma
[04:49] <taco_the_paco> bcbc2, is that wubi? i kinda want more than 30 GB
[04:49] <pragmaticenigma> fission6: just change the permissions
[04:49] <bcbc2> taco_the_paco: that's the only way to install in Windows
[04:49] <CarlFK> Gval: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk  " It was primarily designed to help recover lost partitions..."
[04:49] <pragmaticenigma> make sure the user is the same as other folders and files in that directory
[04:50] <Gval> yes carl
[04:50] <taco_the_paco> bcbc2, is there a way to expend wubi once installed?
[04:50] <fission6> to what doesn't seem to like anythingi give it for my $uSER
[04:50] <Gval> exactly i am using that
[04:50] <Gval> but i dunno how to read it
[04:51] <Gval> because i can select which one i want to restore
[04:51] <bcbc2> taco_the_paco: yes, but if you want a real install you should do that instead of wubi
[04:51] <Gval> maybe here i can have an hand on how to read it and restore simply
[04:52] <pragmaticenigma> fission6: I'm not sure what you are creating the folder "public" for... but you might be beyond on my ability to help you at this point
[04:52] <iflema> taco_the_paco: backup important data, resize the back of windows partition or another partition and install ubuntu, native, on/in the new free space.
[04:52] <fission6> ok i did sudo chmod -R u+rw public/ i can get into public/ but touch hello gives permission errors
[04:52] <taco_the_paco> iflema, how am i suppose to do that without a flash drive or cd? o.o
[04:52] <iflema> taco_the_paco: goodone :p
[04:53] <bcbc2> taco_the_paco: what are you going to do if you need to repair something - if you can't boot a cd or usb you're hooped
[04:53] <taco_the_paco> bcbc2, i can take the laptop apart and just plugin the HDD to another computer, although i want to avoid that, not a big fan of taking things apart.
[04:53] <Gval> CarlFK can i send you a priv8 msg  to solve it ? or can u give me some directiones ?
[04:54] <CarlFK> Gval: sure
[04:54] <iflema> taco_the_paco: use another com to host PXE server and host install images on the lan?!?!?
[04:54] <taco_the_paco> :o
[04:54] <bcbc2> taco_the_paco: it's possible to migrate a wubi to a regular install - it's a bit roundabout but some people in your position have done that. What version of windows do you have?
[04:54] <taco_the_paco> bcbc2, windows 7
[04:54] <pragmaticenigma> fission6: you will have to modify the permissions for the file your trying to edit
[04:55] <iflema> taco_the_paco: grub2 can be made to boot iso's....
[04:55] <taco_the_paco> o_o
[04:55] <bcbc2> taco_the_paco: ok good - so use windows 7's disk manager to shrink the windows drive to make room. Then install wubi and migrate it using this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1519354
[04:56] <milamber> fision6: what is the end goal of this?
[04:56] <taco_the_paco> bcbc2, i have about 200 GB free for ubuntu ;)
[04:56] <bcbc2> taco_the_paco: you'll need to install gparted in wubi to prepare the partitions
[04:56] <bcbc2> taco_the_paco: 200GB should be enough ;)
[04:57] <bcbc2> taco_the_paco: if I was in your position I wouldn't do it though - I like to have a rescue plan
[04:57] <jasonwryan> Any reason why I can retrieve pages with w3m, but can't access them in browsers like FF & Chromium?
[04:58] <fission6> pragmaticenigma, the file i am trying to edit doesn't exist i am trying to write from a process running as the current user
[04:59] <taco_the_paco> bcbc2, interesting, would i be able to upgrade to 11.04 just fine when it releases?
[04:59] <pragmaticenigma> fission6: you would then have to change the user/group ownership or run your program as sudo
[04:59] <pragmaticenigma> I recommend the latter
[04:59] <pragmaticenigma> taco_the_paco: Your update manager will prompt you to upgrade to 11.04 when it is released automatically
[04:59] <jon___> does anyone know where i can find db2html?
[05:00] <bcbc2> taco_the_paco: shouldn't be an issue. Upgrades are working for wubi and I assume normal installs as welll
[05:00] <vectory> jasonwryan: no good one, no
[05:01] <wcheng> win7 下面有没有什么好用的分区软件啊
[05:01] <milamber> jon___: sudo apt-get install docbook-utils ?
[05:01] <pragmaticenigma> !ch | wcheng
[05:01] <jasonwryan> vectory: other than todrive me insane, ofc :)
[05:01] <pragmaticenigma> hmm... that didn't work
[05:01] <pragmaticenigma> someone wanna help wcheng get to the right room
[05:01] <jon___> milamber: thank you very much
[05:01] <milamber> !cn
[05:02] <Vizzl3> stymied by this nic bonding issue in 10.04
[05:02] <milamber> jon___: you may want to look into apt-file (you can see what packages files are in pretty easily :) )
[05:02] <vectory> jasonwryan: i suppose it was working ok before
[05:02] <fcomtois> hey guys, if I installed Natty nightly build, can I upgrade to something more recent?
[05:03] <milamber> fcomtois: more recent than a beta nightly build?
[05:03] <jasonwryan> vectory: yep: no problems. And I've not changed any configs/settings...
[05:03] <fcomtois> yes
[05:03] <fcomtois> milamber: yes
[05:03] <mrdeb> hi
[05:03] <vectory> jasonwryan: maybe u have installed sth that could be the reason?
[05:03] <fcomtois> milamber: the beta had a bug with wubi
[05:03] <jasonwryan> vectory: the only common thread is the pages all have elements served by EC2...
[05:04] <jasonwryan> brb
[05:04] <shuai> 又
[05:04] <milamber> fcomtois: are you looking for the most recent stable release?
[05:04] <pragmaticenigma> !cn | shuai
[05:04] <fcomtois> milamber: It's running fine as far as I can tell, but I lost one setting
[05:05] <fcomtois> milamber: basically the new menu should be more like OSX
[05:05] <fcomtois> but I am back to the old one under classic
[05:06] <milamber> fcomtois: i guess i'm not really understanding what you are looking for/what the issue is. natty support is in #ubuntu+1
[05:06] <fcomtois> oh my bad :-)
[05:06] <milamber> fcomtois: quite alright, i was just trying to figure out exactly what you were looking for :)
[05:08] <jon___> milamber: is that a command?
[05:08] <milamber> !info apt-file | jon___
[05:09] <Dionysus2m> prag: installed wicd and still can't see any networks. iwconfig says "power management off". driver issue?
[05:09] <jon___> milamber: so i have to install it first, right?
[05:09] <joshua1983> Hola
[05:09] <Night_shade> Hello
[05:09] <joshua1983> buenas noches
[05:10] <pragmaticenigma> Dionysus2m: it's possible
[05:10] <joshua1983> alguien habla español?
[05:10] <milamber> jon___: correct, sudo apt-get install apt-file (it comes in *very* handy when trying to resolve dependencies if you ever have to compile from source)
[05:10] <Night_shade> Can someone help me set up my Portable full installation of Ubuntu on my USB HDD
[05:10] <Night_shade> ?
[05:10] <pcuser> hello
[05:11] <Night_shade> I really need help right now
[05:11] <Dionysus2m> prag: any ideas besides b43/bcwml-kernel/ndiswrapper installs?
[05:11] <shuai> what
[05:11] <pcuser> with what
[05:12] <Night_shade> I'm trying to set a full installation on my USB HDD to run on any computer
[05:12] <Relay4LifeUofM> Relay for Life is going on at the University of Michigan-Flint and we need your donations to find a CURE for CANCER!!!! Let’s make sure every Grandchild doesn’t miss out on meeting their grandparents like I did!!!!! Check out our Live-Steam and don’t forget to donate!!!!  http://www.ustream.tv/channel/relay4life-um-flint
[05:12] <speedrunnerG55> hey ubuntu hows it going
[05:12] <Night_shade> but I'm having problems due to device mapping changing from a computer to another
[05:12] <milamber> Night_shade: googlefu came up with this, http://www.pendrivelinux.com/installing-ubuntu-to-a-usb-hard-drive/
[05:13] <Night_shade> tried that already
[05:13] <giiker> Night_shade: Do you have a USB HDD or a USB flash drive that is recognized as a USB HDD?
[05:14] <pcuser> hdd
[05:14] <Night_shade> HDD
[05:14] <pragmaticenigma> !offtopic | Relay4LifeUofM
[05:14] <sicopath> where is the file that contains global keyboard shortcuts?  or what is the best file to edit keyboard shortcuts in?
[05:14] <pcuser> wow spam on irc
[05:16] <giiker> Night_shade: you are having trouble identifying the device to boot from, then?
[05:16] <Night_shade> anyway I can't seem to find System->Preferences->Removable Drives and Media
[05:16] <speedrunnerG55> irc spam is the worst
[05:16] <pragmaticenigma> Dionysus2m: Please use my entire handle or I will miss your questions (just type prag followed by tab which should autocomplete)
[05:16] <speedrunnerG55> i remember whaen irc was spamless
[05:16] <pragmaticenigma> Dionysus2m: I'm not family with using NDIS wrapper, I have always stopped short of going that route in favor of cards that are natively supported in linux
[05:17] <siddsya> hi evry1
[05:17] <pragmaticenigma> !offtopic | speedrunnerG55
[05:17] <giiker> speedrunnerG55: that might evenbe more than spam
[05:17] <siddsya> can anyone tell me how to add chat acc to ubuntu's in built chat
[05:18] <Dionysus2m> pragmaticenigma, so should i not use NDIS wrapper? maybe uninstall the .inf driver?
[05:18] <pragmaticenigma> You might have to uninstall the INF driver to get the other utility to recognize the card
[05:18] <Dionysus2m> pragmaticenigma, okay ill give it  a shot!
[05:18] <speedrunnerG55> ok, how would i configure a remote desktop with a windows computer if i had to
[05:18] <superbob> would someone be willing to help me get internal audio working on my laptop?  it works via headphones or external speakers (out the audio out port), but not through the internals
[05:19] <milamber> !vnc | speedrunnerG55
[05:19] <centHOGG> superbob: when did it work last
[05:19] <chris__> hello all
[05:19] <pcuser> yo
[05:20] <chris__> I could use some advice.
[05:20] <superbob> centHOGG:  not actually sure it ever did.  I've just ignored the problem.  i do believe it works when i boot into Win7 though
[05:20] <pcuser> dont eat yellow snow
[05:20] <pcuser> :)
[05:20] <chris__> I did an update earlier today, i have 10.04, and now gnome will not load correctly but kde is fine
[05:20] <centHOGG> superbob: yeah, gotta verify the hardware... try another live cd distro
[05:21] <chris__> Im reading that many people are having this problem apparantly
[05:21] <pcuser> not load correctly how
[05:21] <superbob> centHOGG:  Win7 doesn't count?
[05:21] <jrmcm> y was dog removed in maveric?
[05:21] <centHOGG> superbob: k, pm me if you want help
[05:21] <taco_the_paco> bcbc2 still around?
[05:21] <wirrr> i did the update today and there is no driver for the wireless adapter
[05:21] <pragmaticenigma> centHOGG: questions and support should be kept to the room so others can benefit from solutions
[05:21] <bcbc2> taco_the_paco: hi
[05:22] <taco_the_paco> bcbc2, ok all booted up in ubuntu, but!
[05:22] <taco_the_paco> in gparted, i cannot unmount the 200 GB partition as its mounted as /host
[05:22] <milamber> !gparted
[05:22] <bcbc2> taco_the_paco: yeah you should have installed wubi to your C: drive
[05:23] <taco_the_paco> my windows drive is Y:\
[05:23] <bcbc2> taco_the_paco: you can't partition the drive that you're booted from - or Y: then
[05:23] <jrmcm> Is there an equivelent to the package dog in maveric?
[05:23] <taco_the_paco> mm
[05:24] <taco_the_paco> so basically im stick with this 30 GB partition / windows? gr
[05:24] <chris__> anyone else having trouble with gnome?
[05:24] <taco_the_paco> oh well
[05:24] <jrmcm> taco: boot from a live cd then use gparted.
[05:24] <mrdeb> what programs do you recommend
[05:24] <mrdeb> for burning
[05:25] <taco_the_paco> jrmcm, no cd or usb
[05:25] <narcoblix> excuse me, but may I aska question
[05:25] <narcoblix> ?
[05:25] <taco_the_paco> or else i would of just got rid of windows tbqh
[05:25] <bcbc2> taco_the_paco: wubi installs to a file within the host partition. If you are just planning on migrating you can make it 4 GB. And it is deleted when you uninstall
[05:25] <pcuser> gnome how?
[05:25] <jrmcm> taco: can you burn one from an iso
[05:25] <pragmaticenigma> !ask | narcoblix
[05:25] <taco_the_paco> jrmcm, nope
[05:26] <jrmcm> taco:nm then
[05:26] <milamber> !burning | mrdeb
[05:26] <narcoblix> I have a file that is not deletable. Sudo doesn't work. It doesn't deny permissions, it just does nothing
[05:26] <taco_the_paco> meh, i'll just use the 200 GB partition for storing files :)
[05:27] <milamber> !details | narcoblix
[05:27] <jasonwryan> narcoblix: rm -rf doesn't work?
[05:27] <pragmaticenigma> narcoblix: what is the name of the file? where is the file located?
[05:27] <Xxjoker21xX> dose anyone know the best port to run vuze with
[05:27] <chris__> When I log into gnome, I get the desktop but when I click on anything the HD light goes on and  never shuts off and gnome locks up, has started since I updated this morning. Anyone know a fix or have information about this?
[05:27] <bcbc2> taco_the_paco: I don't understand the problem. What does it matter which 'drive' you install to. It makes no difference to Wubi or windows
[05:28] <centHOGG> chris__: filecheck fsck
[05:28] <taco_the_paco> bcbc2, don't i have to format the 200 GB partition to ext4?
[05:28] <pragmaticenigma> chris__: Have you tried running another update from the command line?
[05:29] <bcbc2> taco_the_paco: to do a proper partition install yes
[05:29] <Xxjoker21xX> you can use as mutch of the drive as you want
[05:29] <bcbc2> taco_the_paco: wubi just uses a virtual disk - a file under the windows host file system'
[05:29] <narcoblix> the file is located in /home/narcoblix/MCserver/plugins/iConomy/minecraft.lock.db
[05:29] <Dionysus2m> pragmaticenigma, no joy. still not seeing any wifi.
[05:29] <narcoblix> sudo rm -rf doesn't work
[05:29] <taco_the_paco> bcbc2, oh so i could still go ahead and follow those instructions and they should work fine?
[05:29] <jasonwryan> any error?
[05:29] <narcoblix> non at all
[05:30] <narcoblix> it acts as thought the file were deleted, but the file is still there
[05:30] <pragmaticenigma> Dionysus2m: sorry to hear that, I'm out of ideas unfortunatly
[05:30] <bcbc2> taco_the_paco: yes. just bear in mind that if you format the whole 200gb as ext4 then windows won't be able to see your the files (easily)
[05:30] <chris__> pragmaticenigma I ran update with KDE
[05:30] <jasonwryan> narcoblix: still there when you ls - or in Nautilus?
[05:30] <taco_the_paco> ok :)
[05:30] <pragmaticenigma> narcoblix: what is the name of the file?
[05:30] <Dionysus2m> pragmaticenigma: thanks for your help anyhow!
[05:31] <narcoblix> the file is located in /home/narcoblix/MCserver/plugins/iConomy/
[05:31] <pragmaticenigma> chris__: try running "sudo apt-get clean all && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" in the command line to make sure there isn't a missing package somewhere
[05:31] <milamber> narcoblix: are you running minecraft? and are you using "locate" to find it?
[05:31] <chris__> pragmatic ill try that now
[05:32] <mrdeb> do ou reommend libreofficeor gnumeric
[05:32] <pragmaticenigma> narcoblix: The file could be in use by a program and being regenerated as soon as you delete it
[05:32] <Israfel> I'm using my Ubuntu laptop to backup a friends user data from Windows, but every time I try to copy his user data it fails. (I tried compressing to a .tar, but it took 2.7G of data and blew it up to 37G)
[05:32] <red2kic> narcoblix: mlocate/slocate/locate use the database. It does not actively check the system for current files.
[05:32] <Israfel> I think it may be because of symbolic links, how to I copy just valid data?
[05:33] <pragmaticenigma> Israfel: there is a way to copy without following symbolic links... try "man cp" in the command line for more help
[05:34] <narcoblix> after using htop to search through proccesses, I found the the minecraft server was still running
[05:34] <narcoblix> regenerating the file
[05:34] <narcoblix> upon killing the process, I was able to delete the file
[05:34] <narcoblix> thank you for your help
[05:34] <pragmaticenigma> your welcome narcoblix
[05:35] <chris__> pragmatic if I do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade will that kick me to 10.10? Im in 10.04 now
[05:35] <milamber> Israfel: http://www.technologyquestions.com/technology/linux/36122-cp-command-without-symbolic-links.html
[05:35] <pragmaticenigma> chris__: No, there is a special flag for that
[05:36] <chris__> prag I ran it, nothing upgraded, nothing installed
[05:36] <pragmaticenigma> chris__: "upgrade" usually only applies security patches where "dist-upgrade" will apply program updates
[05:37] <Israfel> Thanks pragmaticenigma and milamber. I'll try those, I was more curious if that could be what's causing my problem. I was guessing at the issue.
[05:37] <milamber> Israfel: you would have to provide more detail. how are you copying the files to your laptop?
[05:38] <pragmaticenigma> milamber: I think he is just using the GUI to click and drap or just the cp command in the CLI
[05:38] <milamber> Israfel: what is the command you are using, how long does it run?
[05:38] <milamber> pragmaticenigma: ahh, i thought he was copying data from a friend's computer to his laptop
[05:39] <MrFricks> mrdeb: gnumeric is just a spreadsheet app  libraoffice is a full office suite including a spreadsheet app
[05:39] <pragmaticenigma> milamber: the problem he is running into is that Microsoft started adding symbolic links to their file system for backwards compatibility... some of those links create loops if followed by the CP tool
[05:40] <milamber> pragmaticenigma: well then -d will dereference and -L will create real objects, -r for subdirectories :)
[05:41] <pragmaticenigma> yeah, I think giving him a link to the man page for cp will help him in the right direction
[05:41] <pragmaticenigma> milamber: He really should just be copying the user directory only
[05:42] <milamber> pragmaticenigma: which is why i/we ask exactly what commands are being used. it's up to him now :)
[05:43] <pragmaticenigma> yep
[05:45] <giiker> when running system monitor, what exactly means for a process to be on a Sleeping state?
[05:45] <giiker> running in the background?
[05:47] <j5> hi, is there any way to expand my ubuntu partition by expanding to the to previous sectors of unused space?
[05:47] <j5> as opposed to sectors after
[05:48] <milamber> giiker: http://www.linux.com/archive/feature/114341
[05:49] <milamber> giiker: closer to sleeping than running in the background
[05:49] <Guest35537> no body
[05:51] <milamber> !gparted | j5
[05:52] <chris__> pragmatic I looked on the net, apparantly lots of people are having gnome trouble after last update, possibly from a failed to complete file update, what command line command would check and fix that?
[05:53] <Evanescence> how to install remastersys under ubuntu-Lucid ? add source or PPA , or deb package ? if you know, please give me an solution . Thanks
[05:53] <centHOGG> man i never update the de... just for that reason
[05:53] <jrmcm> Is there a equivelent package to dog in maveric?
[05:54] <milamber> Evanescence: http://geekconnection.org/remastersys/ubuntu.html
[05:54] <administrator__> so, what's that
[05:55] <milamber> jrmcm: is cat missing a feature you need?
[05:56] <jrmcm> milamber: cant canontate webpages
[05:56] <l1nuxman> anyone know why sendmail doesn't use the system time for its sent time ?
[05:57] <Asgina> Hello
[05:57] <ERROR2> so how about that 3DS, ehh?
[05:57] <juss> Hello Everybody , I am not able to install Tally ERP9 in ubuntu 10.10  anybody have idea how to do it correctly with wine'
[05:58] <Evanescence> milamber: yeah, I have added it, but there is an Unmet dependence for remastersys, http://pastebin.com/bzr1jxHx
[05:58] <giiker> milamber: thanx
[05:58] <ex0a> juss: have you checked winehq?
[05:58] <jeffrey4l> my friend has one 3ds, I play with it and I think it is very cool.
[05:59] <ERR0R> I AM 3RR0R; FEAR ME AND MY USE OF LEET SPEAK, FUCKER!
[05:59] <juss> yes... wine is working perfect tally installed but running very slow
[05:59] <bazhang> ERR0R, no cursing
[05:59] <_bugz_> anybody knows a opensource like of sharepoint?
[05:59] <Asgina> wine hq?
[06:00] <ERR0R> me0w knows what's up
[06:00] <ex0a> Asgina: winehq.org
[06:00] <bazhang> ERR0R, this is not the chat channel; #ubuntu-offtopic for that
[06:01] <Asgina> I know
[06:01] <lxu> when using the screen command how to i close the session (not just detach)
[06:01] <Asgina> who come from China
[06:01] <ERR0R> not me
[06:01] <bazhang> Asgina, in #ubuntu-cn
[06:01] <Loshki> l1nuxman: also ask on #sendmail
[06:01] <ERR0R> I come from computer
[06:02] <milamber> _bugz_: googlefu: http://open-tube.com/open-source-alternatives-to-microsoft-sharepoint
[06:02] <jeffrey4l> I from china~~
[06:02] <jeffrey4l> then?
[06:02] <Asgina> Me too
[06:02] <jrmcm> milamber: cat can't read web pages
[06:02] <mindcat> me too
[06:02] <Asgina> That's good
[06:03] <juss> Tally ERP9 is running very slow after install... i am not sure if its install correctly to anybody know about it
[06:03] <jeffrey4l> ahh
[06:03] <_bugz_> milamber, thanks
[06:04] <pmp6nl> I am trying to reprofile ureadahead, do I just delete the .pack files or those files plus the file simply called pack?
[06:04] <jrmcm> Is there a equivelent package to dog in maveric?
[06:04] <milamber> jrmcm: combination of wget and cat?
[06:05] <sar_> Hello Everybody, my 'software-properties-gtk' crashed, who can help me?
[06:05] <jrmcm> milamber: I dont get anything when i use wget
[06:05] <milamber> jrmcm: what command are you using?
[06:06] <sar_> sudo software-properties-gtk
[06:06] <jrmcm> wget "url"
[06:06] <sar_> error: /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/apt/__init__.py:18: FutureWarning: apt API not stable yet
[06:06] <sar_>   warnings.warn("apt API not stable yet", FutureWarning)
[06:08] <jrmcm> milamber: when i run it I get an empty file read.php?b=s
[06:09] <ERR0R> I ain't scared, FOO!
[06:09] <milamber> jrmcm: 1 sec
[06:09] <jrmcm> kk
[06:10] <Teltariat> Does anyone know if AppArmor, the security framework that's part of Ubuntu by default, has the ability to prevent applications from being killed, even by the root user?
[06:13] <milamber> wget -r -l 1 http://www.nameofsite.com && cd www.nameofsite.com && cat *.*
[06:13] <juss> Hello everybody my tally erp9 software running very slow after install with winehq, do anybody have idea about it... i can send installer if you want
[06:13] <milamber> jrmcm: wget -r -l 1 http://www.wikipedia.org && cd www.wikipedia.org && cat *.*
[06:14] <milamber> jrmcm: i just used wikipedia as a test
[06:14] <jonathan> Hi. I have installed ubuntu 10.10 with a lot of troubles on my imac 27. Now that I have installed the ati 4850 properly, it says that there is no display. I'm  a total noob and I have no idea how to find my display properly in command line. Any idea please?
[06:15] <thauriswulfa> QUESTION: alternative of Adobe Flash Lite  , in ubuntu to create flash images?
[06:16] <jonathan> "unable to open display" how do I get my display to work ?
[06:17] <bouma> hello, can anyone help me, this computer is running ubuntu 10.04, installed from the alternate installer cd, with fulldisk encryption, 10 bad sectors have been remapped according to smart. im going to change the system part to a different drive but first i want to recover data, fsck was run automatically on boot and then the ~ was totally wiped and replaced with a 'fresh' default one.
[06:17] <ERR0R> update
[06:17] <bouma> also if i use 'du' from /home, it says ~ is 40gig but the dir itself has double dir entries,
[06:18] <bouma> and none of the entries eg Downloads, Desktop etc, have anything in them
[06:18] <bouma> how can i recover the data
[06:19] <bouma> it looks like the inodes? or at least dir entries are still there cause of the double entries? is that the old ones, and also new ones, but all i can "access" are the new
[06:19] <TerryBook> how do I set the compiler to use -fPIC when using ./configure and make?
[06:19] <bouma> can i copy the old 'files'/dirs' to a different place?
[06:19] <mali> hi there... I wish to export a bash function globally.. where does bash store the function I export as root? (or does export not persist on reboot?) If not, well then I add the function to /etc/bash.bashrc or most likely /etc/profile yes?
[06:19] <bouma> how to recover! also using full disk encryption from the alternate cd installer
[06:19] <mali> there is not man entry for export in natty so I am asking here :)
[06:20] <BestKeptSecret> is there a way to use grep to make output print the start of the matching case to a certain matching case??
[06:20] <mali> bouma, the process of recovering encrypted home dirs AND moving [home] dirs in general is in the wiki's just in case you didn'tknow
[06:20] <mali> so both are fine ye
[06:20] <mali> s
[06:21] <mali> BestKeptSecret: yes with cut or sed or so
[06:21] <bouma> mali: also by default will fsck let me check without doing any changes, ie completely readonly on a mounted / ?
[06:21] <bouma> mali: ok i've been googling and havnt found anything yet. but i will look thanks
[06:21] <mali> you mean like ls somedir | grep donkey | only list don say?
[06:22] <improveupon> this should be an easy question... i updated the 10.04 kernel and now NetworkManager does not list wireless connections, and nm-tool lists only the wired nic, but the package manager says the bcmwl package is installed
[06:22] <mali> you can specify readonly, or rather from livecd, mount a partition in read only mode
[06:22] <bouma> mali: im reading man fsck, and googling but havnt found a specific guide for this problem yet
[06:22] <mali> than you don't need to worry.. do a man fsck
[06:22] <Bawn> How do i remove nvidia drivers from the command line?
[06:22] <bouma> mali: does fsck actually consider the 'mount' or just work on the device directly, under the mounting layer ?
[06:23] <bouma> mali: there is fsck -N but i dont know if that just does nothing rather than a readonly check
[06:23] <ruan> help. i tried to change my resolution and nvidia x server didnt revert after 30 seconds
[06:23] <mali> I really don't know.. I don't use linux for a good while bouma
[06:24] <mali> hi there... I wish to export a bash function globally.. where does bash store the function I export as root? (or does export not persist on reboot?) If not, then I add the function to  /etc/profile?
[06:24] <bouma> mali: also why did the automatic fsck do something without permission, it shouldnt be automatic but it was, also it rebooted right at the end of the fsck i remember. the on the next boot it came up with the 'fresh' desktop with a pristine empty home
[06:25] <ruan> no one? fine, i'll reboot
[06:25] <jrmcm> milamber: what are the "&&" for?
[06:25] <mali> jrmcm: && is a lazy AND operator.. that means
[06:25] <Bawn> How do i remove nvidia drivers from the command line?
[06:25] <improveupon> if NetworkManager does not list wireless connections, might my wireless network driver need to be manually loaded into the new kernel version or something?
[06:26] <bouma> btw, can anyone recommend a distro that has the best integration with the linux amd catalyst drivers, cause i have trouble using ubuntu 10.04 with them, the control center refuses to run and although i've used the ppa, it doesnt seem to actually be accelerated
[06:26] <jonathan> What do you add at the end of your command line to see everything. Like I put lspci and it just goes all the way down. How do we slow that already?
[06:26] <mali> if you do say: action1 && action 2, then action 2 will never be executed if action 1 fails as opposed to action1 & action2 which is a 'strict operator' aka if action1 fails it still will check if action2 will execute (which it won't )
[06:26] <mali> a strict AND operator is kinda useless hehe in most practical terms
[06:27] <mali> jonathan:  lspci | less
[06:27] <mali> or lspci | more
[06:27] <mali> ;p
[06:27] <jonathan> tyvm
[06:27] <jonathan> and how do we do that vertical line
[06:27] <jonathan> (total noob i know ;p)
[06:27] <mali> on an US layout keyboard or what
[06:27] <improveupon> it's above the backslash
[06:27] <improveupon> shift + backslash
[06:27] <mali> depend son your keyboard but if standard US, then shift + key above enter
[06:27] <jonathan> thanks !
[06:28] <Bawn> how can I connect 2 computers together to create a computer that uses both cpus
[06:28] <tarsha> If i am running ubuntu x64 can i run windows xp x32 in VMware?
[06:28] <bouma> im using ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates lucid, but its not great, does anyone have an old amd card with 10.04 and get hardware video accel, which is my #1 need
[06:28] <mali> Bawn, use a string and attach it to both cpu's with tape!
[06:28] <mali> tarsha: yes
[06:28] <Bawn> in this economy, tape is a bit too pricey
[06:28] <tarsha> thanks
[06:29] <tarsha> anyone wanna reccomend a bittorent client besides transmission?
[06:29] <improveupon> i know someone knows this. i updated the 10.04 kernel and now NetworkManager does not list wireless connections, and nm-tool does not see the wlan0
[06:30] <improveupon> but synaptic says the drivers are installed
[06:30] <Bawn> ktorrent tarsha
[06:30] <jrmcm> tarsha: vuze
[06:30] <tarsha> thanks
[06:30] <shcherbak> Bawn: You think of cluster, not to much to do, and there are very good how to's for Debian
[06:30] <BestKeptSecret> when using shell commands, are the '-' arguments & '--' to be used together or alternatives to each other?
[06:30] <Bawn> tarsha vuze and ktorrent are superior
[06:30] <l1nuxman> can someone help me set correct time so that my sendmail email will show the correct system date? I read that maybe I need to configure rsyslogd ?
[06:30] <Bawn> okay shcherbak
[06:31] <shcherbak> tarsha: Delige, or rtorrent (no gui)
[06:31] <shcherbak> *Deluge*
[06:31] <p1und3r> does anyone else have problems running 3d games in the new unity ui
[06:31] <Bawn> How do i remove nvidia drivers from the command line?
[06:31] <tarsha> Think I will try Vuze.
[06:31] <jrmcm> later
[06:31] <Bawn> i like the peer maps that vuze has
[06:32] <shcherbak> Bawn: I think it is jockey-text
[06:32] <Bawn> heh?
[06:33] <shcherbak> Bawn: to remove driver (jockey is application responsible for nonfree driver)
[06:33] <Bawn> okey
[06:33] <Bawn> how do i change the address that apt-get gets its data from via command line
[06:34] <shcherbak> Bawn: Do you mean sources?
[06:34] <Bawn> yeah
[06:34] <tarsha> whats the command to install java?
[06:36] <shcherbak> Bawn: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and update (carefull, make buck up of that file first)
[06:36] <bazhang> !partner > tarsha
[06:36] <bazhang> !java | tarsha
[06:36] <shcherbak> !partner > shcherbak
[06:37] <tarsha> thanks
[06:38] <Bawn> thz shcherbak
[06:39] <recusant> !ubottu > recusant
[06:41] <unko> hey whats up guys i seem to have a problem, i accidently install ubuntu over my perfectly set up windows 7 os. i meant to install ubuntu on a seperate disk but i choose the wrong one..of couse.... so here's the question....how do i recover my whole windows partition that got formated?
[06:41] <centHOGG> n
[06:43] <pcman> hey
[06:43] <pcman> i just installed julinux
[06:43] <unko> can any one help me out one that? PLEASE!
[06:43] <pcman> my windows 7 has gone
[06:43] <pcman> how do i get it back
[06:43] <unko> yea... thats is
[06:43] <unko> it
[06:44] <pcman> really
[06:44] <pcman> you mean windows 7 is gone
[06:44] <unko> yes really i want to duel boot linux and windows but... now im stuck with linux
[06:44] <unko> and i lost all my dam files!!!
[06:44] <pcman> same as me
[06:44] <pcman> 'how come
[06:45] <pcman> yeh same as me
[06:45] <chipmink> there is a file named btmp that crashes my log viewer everytime i start it is there a way to erase this file?
[06:45] <pcman> all the pics
[06:45] <unko> so... can anyone gemme some advice for this?
[06:45] <pcman> julinux is nice to use
[06:45] <unko> any software i can use to restore a fomated windows back to normal
[06:46] <pcman> i have the same problem
[06:46] <unko> ^ annoying
[06:46] <pcman> yeh
[06:46] <unko> thanks for the help pcman
[06:47] <pcman> yw unko
[06:47] <unko> k
[06:47] <chipmink> how do i erase a file that has root permissions
[06:47] <pcman> it sucks i like the julinux system but i lost my windows 7
[06:47] <pcman> got something to do with windows loader
[06:47] <unko> the amount of sarcasm coming from you is killing me
[06:48] <pcman> who
[06:48] <pcman> bye all
[06:49] <unko> you pcman
[06:50] <wacheng> 中文
[06:50] <bazhang> !cn | wacheng
[06:50] <chipmink> there is a file named btmp that crashes my log viewer everytime i start it Is there a way to erase this file?
[06:52] <chipmink> is var/log a hidden directory
[06:52] <ojal> Good night. 10:10 I have installed Ubuntu on my notebook and installed KDE as KNetworkManager not manage wireless, I installed Wicd, but can not connect to Wireless with him. Does anyone know what might be happening?
[06:52] <nyuszika7h> Out of curiousity, I tried to start FreeDOS, and it said 'Starting Windows'... :P So it can't be FreeDOS... ;)
[06:53] <YankDownUnder> chipmink, You have to have permission to view things in the /var/log directory -> that might be the issue...I just looked at my /var/log/btmp and it's empty...
[06:53] <unko> so does anyone know how i can restore my windows 7 partition after being formated?
[06:54] <centHOGG> dude n
[06:54] <chipmink> i copied the file to desktop
[06:54] <YankDownUnder> unko, Um...formatted?
[06:54] <chipmink> then looked at it
[06:54] <unko> yea formatted
[06:54] <chipmink> has user name
[06:54] <nyuszika7h> Is it possible to specify a custrom resolution for GRUB? StartUp-Manager only offers a list, but neither one matches my resolution.
[06:54] <nyuszika7h> s/custrom/custom/
[06:55] <YankDownUnder> unko, Mate, that's a job and a half...w00t...you COULD look into getting like Hirens liveCD - it's got some forensic stuff on it for recovering partitions and stuff that's "been formatted"...
[06:55] <centHOGG> sure
[06:55] <unko> YankDownUnder,  yea but do you know if it will restore a whole windows OS back to a working state?
[06:56] <bcbc2> unko: formatted... you can use testdisk. But if you've formatted and installed ubuntu that's probably not going to work. You can use photorec to try and recover your data. http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec
[06:56] <unko> YankDownUnder,  don't get me wrong i love ubuntu i use it alot and i know my way around it. but i just installed it on the wrong disk
[06:56] <recusant> or more likely, reinstall windows
[06:56] <YankDownUnder> unko, I have no idea mate - I've had 50/50 luck in doing things like that - however, in some instances I've been able to recover important files for clients...
[06:56] <nyuszika7h> Nobody can answer my question?
[06:56] <centHOGG> reinstall
[06:57] <unko> YankDownUnder, ok thanks for the advice im gonna try it and see what happens
[06:57] <YankDownUnder> nyuszika7h, Um...have you bothered to read the grub2 documentation?
[06:57] <unko> and bcbc2 i'll look at that also
[06:57] <nyuszika7h> YankDownUnder: I don't even know where's it :/
[06:57] <YankDownUnder> unko, When you go looking for the HIrens CD, make sure you get version 9.9 -> the new versions don't have all the great utils that 9.9 has...
[06:58] <unko> YankDownUnder, ok so get 9.9 only
[06:58] <YankDownUnder> !grub2 | nyuszika7h
[07:00] <unko> YankDownUnder, daym... Hirens liveCD is now at V13.1 should i still go with 9.9?
[07:00] <oddie> ? list
[07:00] <YankDownUnder> unko, Yeah mate...best one yet...(I've tried them all, have to always check 'em cuz I use 'em for biz)
[07:01] <unko> ok, if this works man i owe you one
[07:02] <gogglesdonada> is there any reason why my maverick upgrade should take 12 hours to finish? looking at the system monitor my cpu in use is @ 20% (both cores), and about 400MB/4GB in use. This is for installing not downloading..
[07:03] <unko> gogglesdonada, check terminal out put for hangs
[07:04] <unko> YankDownUnder, hey can you point me to a legit 9.9 download? googles not giving me much to work with and if im gonna download it i have to make sure it works im on a android tethered network and it's well... not the fastest 100kBs max haha
[07:04] <saganbyte> where can i get a netbook with ubuntu pre-installed?
[07:07] <marvin> i set up a dual boot with windows with a third partition for file sharing between them but i want it to auto mount and i am not sure if /etc/fstab or gigolo would be better or how to do so on either one
[07:08] <raido> marvin: do it in fstab and set it to auto, easypeasy
[07:09] <starkiller> 11.04 is slow!
[07:09] <starkiller> better 10.10
[07:09] <BestKeptSecret> starkiller what's your specs?
[07:09] <awkisopen> Occasionally, when resuming from sleep, my laptop crashes about 10 seconds in (e.g. I get to the unlock screen but eventually it freezes up). Is this a common problem? Is there a known solution? Thanks :)
[07:09] <raido> starkiller: 10.04 will be the last good Ubuntu... I fear.
[07:09] <BestKeptSecret> !commands
[07:09] <awkisopen> Currently running 10.04.2
[07:10] <BestKeptSecret> !man
[07:11] <awkisopen> Additionally, even though it crashes on resume, I can still do things like turn on/off my network card (and indeed the network card shows activity during that time)
[07:12] <starkiller> unity has bugs
[07:12] <BestKeptSecret> they should try to ship with no bugs
[07:12] <BestKeptSecret> you know... be perfect
[07:12] <Saphiresurf> Would someone mind helping me? When I try to log in as root using sudo I get this error "sudo: must be setuid root".
[07:12] <centHOGG> features
[07:12] <Saphiresurf> BestKeptSecret, No product is like that.
[07:13] <BestKeptSecret> Saphiresurf, i was joking
[07:13] <urgodfather> i have a simple question, how do i remove the original install 2.5-35-22 from the system?
[07:13] <marvin> what should the drive letter be?
[07:13] <Saphiresurf> Oh Haha
[07:13] <Saphiresurf> I will be right back.
[07:13] <YankDownUnder> unko, Mate, I'll find something after I eat dinner mate
[07:14] <awkisopen> I've been searching the forums and it seems like all the forums about crashing on resume have all been abandoned :(
[07:14] <marvin> well... not letter but sda1 sdb2...
[07:16] <unko> YankDownUnder,  im downloading V13.1 since i couln't find 9.9
[07:16] <alibaba> bonjour, la version 10.04 est elle plus stable que la 10.10?  merci
[07:18] <awkisopen> Holy crap I guess running Ubuntu on an HP Pavilion dv6 is just hopeless
[07:18] <awkisopen> I've been able to find zero details about any of my problems
[07:19] <BestKeptSecret> ubuntu doesn't like you
[07:19] <awkisopen> BestKeptSecret: Is there anywhere I can go for advice/help? So far the forums and this have resulted in nothing
[07:19] <Saphiresurf> Nevermind I think I figured out my problem
[07:20] <BestKeptSecret> awkisopen, hmm this is the best place for solutions... Forums might be a bit better if you ask educatedly
[07:20] <awkisopen> I asked a different question on the forums, listed all the solutions I tried... nothing so far, maybe it just takes a while?
[07:20] <awkisopen> fwiw that was about brightness not working
[07:20] <BestKeptSecret> awkisopen, when did you post?
[07:20] <awkisopen> About a day ago. I imagine it takes longer for something this complicated
[07:20] <BestKeptSecret> Wait for at least 1-2 full days
[07:21] <awkisopen> But yeah, I'm not in IRC for the same question
[07:21] <BestKeptSecret> yeah a bit... if it's extremely complicated... then the amount of users decrases that can answer that question
[07:21] <loyulinux_> join #XDA-Atrix
[07:21] <BestKeptSecret> and to have problems on a certain laptop... that's even more harder to answer... ifyou don't have thatmodel
[07:21] <BestKeptSecret> ask the question more generically
[07:22] <BestKeptSecret> entice someone into helping you
[07:22] <awkisopen> Here's a simpler one though: I added acpi_osi=Linux to the kernel boot options (b/c that was one of the solutions to my earlier problem) and have since removed the option. Could it still be messing things up? Is there a minimum amount of times I need to reboot?
[07:22] <BestKeptSecret> don't entice me
[07:23] <awkisopen> that was to the channel in general =/
[07:23] <awkisopen> not you
[07:23] <BestKeptSecret> oic
[07:23] <BestKeptSecret> I'm not that tech savvy
[07:23] <centHOGG> welcome to linux
[07:23] <BestKeptSecret> anyone know how to use sed/cut to get text from 1 point to another point?
[07:24] <gray2> rather...quick question, just installed ubuntu, ran update manager, and there's >300 updates. Are those updates for installed programs or arbitrary 3rd party programs that are popular amongst the community?
[07:24] <raido> gray2: the former. do the updates
[07:25] <SkrappJaw> any one using 11.04 beta?
[07:25] <h4xx0r> nah, im still on the 10
[07:25] <Saphiresurf> I used it, but it wasn't very usable :p.
[07:25] <jingqq5210> me
[07:25] <h4xx0r> but I heard 11 is going to be kick-ass
[07:25] <h4xx0r> dont really think so though
[07:25] <Saphiresurf> Looks like it will
[07:25] <h4xx0r> I dont find much difference between 11 and 10
[07:26] <Saphiresurf> Except the fact that it's using unity :p
[07:26] <samira-t> who can help me to run an embedded web server?
[07:26] <h4xx0r> and ill be using 11 only once its stable and released completely (not beta)
[07:26] <raido> h4xx0r: maybe if your in 4th grade
[07:26] <SkrappJaw> what is unity?
[07:26] <h4xx0r> lol
[07:26] <h4xx0r> unity is new desktop I think
[07:26] <h4xx0r> :S
[07:26] <h4xx0r> or something like that
[07:26] <gray2> raido: thank you
[07:26] <SkrappJaw> ahh.
[07:27] <SkrappJaw> I have the iso and vbox. gonna test out an install wit hit.
[07:27] <SkrappJaw> it*
[07:27] <sampson> hey - just installed ubuntu for first time - my display is all wack. really low resolution
[07:27] <jingqq5210> SkrappJaw: that's a bad idea
[07:27] <sampson> when i go into monitor - i can't select the native resolution anyway
[07:28] <olx69> I've some network trouble with lxc and static ip (ubuntu container created from template by lxc-create)- my lxc should have a static ip but got one by dhcp : http://codepad.org/I5lPT2wx - what wrong?
[07:28] <olx69> Anyway,change he /etc/network/interfaces works for static, but there is no default route! I have to add them manually and than works http://codepad.org/w4ClJy08 Any ideas?
[07:28] <SkrappJaw> why is that a bad idea?
[07:28] <liuz> nihao
[07:28] <liuz> wei
[07:28] <liuz> sdf
[07:28] <raido> gray2: np
[07:28] <jingqq5210> liuz: 你好
[07:28] <SkrappJaw> its virtual box.
[07:29] <liuz> 这是什么阿
[07:29] <liuz> 刚装linux
[07:29] <liuz> 不会
[07:29] <liuz> 有没有懂的阿
[07:29] <snowrichard> thought this was an english channel
[07:29] <liuz> 求助
[07:29] <FloodBot3> liuz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:29] <jingqq5210> liuz: pease join #ubuntu-cn
[07:29] <jingqq5210> liuz: Please join #ubuntu-cn
[07:30] <samira-t> who can help me to run an embedded web server?
[07:30] <starkiller> black ways??¡¡¡¿¿¿????
[07:30] <solozm> hello every body
[07:30] <solozm> I am a new guy
[07:30] <SkrappJaw> Currently installing 11.04 in a vbox
[07:30] <jingqq5210> solozm: welcome to linux
[07:31] <solozm> thanks
[07:31] <jingqq5210> SkrappJaw: would your vbox support 3D
[07:31] <SkrappJaw> jyea
[07:31] <SkrappJaw> yea*
[07:32] <SkrappJaw> I have a debian and an xp guest.
[07:32] <m4t1> hello all
[07:32] <m4t1> i have problem webcam :( any can help me
[07:32] <solozm>  /join #ubuntu-cn
[07:32] <jingqq5210> m4t1: hello
[07:32] <olx69> no network specialized here?
[07:33] <m4t1> hello jingqq5210
[07:33] <olx69>  /join #ubuntu-de
[07:33] <gray2> question: ubuntu didn't have me setup a root password on install. and the account that i did setup seems to have root privliges...is that normal? is that the root acct? do most people generally then setup a standard user acct for general use?
[07:33] <gray2> privileges*
[07:34] <arand> gray2: Yes, first user is setup with sudo, that is the default
[07:34] <arand> !sudo | gray2
[07:34] <raido> gray2: Its the Ubuntu way of dealing with the root account and is normal for Ubunto, see Ubottu comment
[07:35] <gray2> arand, ubottu, raido: thank you. sorry for the trouble, somewhat new to *nix and entirely new to ubuntu
[07:35] <SkrappJaw> you can get to the root terminal in the applications > system tools or use "sudo su" in the normal terminal
[07:35] <jingqq5210> gray2: no root user on ubuntu
[07:36] <m4t1> jingqq5210: hello
[07:36] <gray2> jingqq5210: understood, ty
[07:36] <jingqq5210> m4t1: :-)
[07:36] <jingqq5210> gray2: ^_^
[07:37] <raido> jingqq5210: there is a root user, its just not given a PW by default. Its the way Ubuntu does things.
[07:37]  * SkrappJaw natty-guest install 75%
[07:37] <m4t1> jingqq5210: hey my webcam is benq C350 and i cant make work on my ubuntu 10.10
[07:37]  * SkrappJaw is curious
[07:37] <samira-t> who can help me to run an embedded web server?
[07:38] <jingqq5210> radio :yes~~
[07:38] <jingqq5210> raido: yeah~~
[07:38] <jingqq5210> m4t1: I'v no idea about webcam
[07:39] <m4t1> jingqq5210: -.- ok ty anywhy
[07:40] <gray2> question: so each command you would want to run with root privileges would have to be piped into sudo?
[07:40] <m4t1>  webcam  benq C350 can´y make work on my ubuntu 10.10
[07:40] <raido> gray2: piped is the wrong word, but yes
[07:40] <jingqq5210> gray2: use commond   sudo -i     or sudo su
[07:41] <jingqq5210> see what happened~~~
[07:41] <awkisopen> Made a script, want to execute it as root using a shortcut key - typed sudo sh /path/to/script.sh into shortcuts, assigned key - nothing happens. What went wrong?
[07:41] <gray2> raido: ah, sorry, not great with my terminology. i'll read up. ty
[07:41] <gray2> jingqq5210: gotcha, will do, ty
[07:42] <m4t1> awwww.. i need help with this stupid webcam .... T.T
[07:44] <administrator> hello
[07:44] <yzxlax> sdf
[07:47] <awkisopen> I'm using the keyboard shortcuts utility, btw
[07:49] <sury> hi
[07:49] <jingqq5210> sury: hi
[07:49] <raido> awkisopen: what is the key combination you are using? Are you sure those keys are recognized? Do they work for another function?
[07:51] <elisa87> have you worked with "SoC encounter" or "Design Compiler"?
[07:51] <awkisopen> raido: F2 and F3; yes, I've tested them with other shortcuts a minute or so ago
[07:51] <sury> Christie: hi
[07:52] <raido> awkisopen: what does the script do? how are you sure its not working?
[07:52] <frybye> hi - in gparted how do i set up the mount point on a new partition??
[07:53] <awkisopen> raido: the script increases/decreases the brightness of the screen. it works if I execute it in Terminal, but not if I assign it to a shortcut key, nor if I create a launcher for it (unless I label it "Application in Terminal")
[07:55] <starkiller> blakcways?
[07:55] <gray2> raido, jingqq5210, ubottu, arand: restart time, then time for zzz's. thanks again for the help! probably see you around with more questions down the road >.> <3
[07:56] <jingqq5210> ~~
[07:58] <Dan9550X>  
[07:58] <raido> awkisopen: Ive seen this, I dont know the answer but is has to do with the wah you session in running in the shell and the script not running from a actual virtual terminal (like havint to choose "run in terminal" when making a launcher). I think you can get around it by changing the way the script works but im not sure.
[08:00] <awkisopen> raido: Okay, thanks. In the meantime I figured out how to assign the shortcut key to open up a terminal and execute the command, although it unfortunately prompts me for a password (since it's run as sudo) =/ but still better than nothing
[08:00] <cyclist_2> Hello, there! is there a way to have Audacious not to create a new instance when a new call is made to it? I read the FAQ where it is stated that this does not use any more memory, but my question has to do with the fact that my taskbar is being populated by Audacious and eventually I have to killall; I am on Ubuntu 10.04, Audacious 2.3 [for the record, I had to reinstall my system recently, but Audacious behaviour prior to that was the des
[08:01] <bcbc2> frybye: you do that in the installer, not gparted
[08:01] <raido> awkisopen: you can use visudo to edit the sudoers file to give your user access to that particular command, then it wont need to be interactive and your script may work
[08:02] <awkisopen> raido: Wow, thanks! That's awesome. Trying that now.
[08:02] <awkisopen> Where is the sudoers file?
[08:04] <awkisopen> Actually, more importantly than that, how do I add the access for that command?
[08:04] <raido> awkisopen: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1132821
[08:04] <pcman> hello
[08:04] <pcman> can any one help me
[08:05] <awkisopen> raido: Thanks for all your help!
[08:05] <raido> awkisopen: np
[08:05] <pcman> i have a problem
[08:06] <pcman> i installed julinux
[08:06] <pcman> i cant boot into my windows 7
[08:06] <SilentDis> For some reason, my Blu-Ray drive has stopped recognizing blu-ray disks (it was working just fine before).  Nothing is showing up in the system log upon disk load, where else can i look?
[08:07] <SilentDis> I should note, it sees CDs, DVDs and burns disks without issue.
[08:07] <SilentDis> I haven't tried to load a blu-ray disk since last kernel, maybe something goofy there?
[08:08] <ruan> perhaps. you can boot into the old kernel to check
[08:08] <SilentDis> still, it should show something in some log somewhere, right?
[08:10] <smiley7> hey guys i need some help...right now ubuntu is downloading something and i dont know what..
[08:10] <smiley7> i dont have no browsers open..
[08:11] <jasonwryan> you auto-updating?
[08:11] <smiley7> no...but the lights on my modem is going crazy...
[08:12] <smiley7> what is ubuntu doing ?
[08:12] <jasonwryan> netstat -tav ?
[08:13] <aperson> is there a better way to get all the available x displays other than xauth list "$DISPLAY" ?
[08:14] <aperson> I have a script that relies on a display being available, but my $DISPLAY variable changes from time to time, so I'd like to be able to set it automatically
[08:14] <smiley7> i cant read all of the netstat output...
[08:15] <smiley7> i have the Gnome system monitor open...and on the network page..it is downloading something
[08:15] <perlmonkey> netstat -tav | more
[08:16] <benzaldehyde> SilentDis: do you by any chance use dumphd
[08:16] <raido> smiley7: aren't you using IRC?
[08:16] <SilentDis> benzaldehyde: makemkv, and I already checked, it's not running
[08:16] <smiley7> yes,but it was doing it Before i started Irc
[08:17] <raido> smiley7: it could be the update manager refreshing the apt-cache
[08:17] <staar2> hello how to make the tar extraction of certain folder, mark the extract folder in tar  ?
[08:17] <benzaldehyde> SilentDis: i need to see about getting mine to run, i briefly read about using dumphd which is why i mentioned it
[08:17] <smiley7> update manager is not running.....and it wouldent take that long...
[08:18] <SilentDis> benzaldehyde: I have no problems performing a blu-ray rip... just for some reason I popped in Tron Legacy and it refuses to even recognize it now.  I have no idea why.  CDs, DVDs, read-write burns are just fine...
[08:18] <smiley7> it dont do it in linux Mint
[08:19] <jasonwryan> Networking puzzle: I can't access any sites serving data from EC2 in FF or other graphical browswers. Can ping them and retrieve pages with w3m and Lynx. Any ideas?
[08:20] <smiley7> well somethings funny.....
[08:20] <smiley7> the netstat in windows...i could see the Websites.
[08:21] <SilentDis> is there a way to force a 'reset' of some sort on an optical device?  (specifically, /dev/sr1)?
[08:23] <benzaldehyde> SilentDis: newer encryption possibly, did u try a different BD
[08:23] <SilentDis> benzaldehyde: already tried that.  I personally ripped Avatar off this drive a few months ago... won't recognize the disk now
[08:26] <SilentDis> bbiab, gonna dbl check bios settings on this stupid thing, make sure nothing decided to go all wonky
[08:26] <staar2> how to make to tar to extract from certain dir ? like inside tar i got /home i want only the home´s content
[08:26] <dr3mro> why not to consider pychess instead of glchess for ubuntu ???
[08:27] <benzaldehyde> SilentDis: cdfreaks forum is good for that type of stuff, though i don't know if there are any linux gurus, other than that i do not know
[08:28] <raido> staar2: http://www.gnu.org/software/tar/manual/html_node/extract-dir.html#SEC28
[08:31] <smiley7> why guys what is dns.admin.google com
[08:31] <\DSAFEW\> hi there, to update a kernel, what is the package in the repo?
[08:32] <smiley7> anybody ?
[08:32] <atlef> anyone with a recommendation for a good cd - ogg ripper?
[08:34] <smiley7> Anybody have an anser ?
[08:34] <\DSAFEW\> atlef, http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-ripping-and-encoding-audio-files/
[08:35] <Innxis> A bit of a situation here. I have a folder in which I upload files via FTP. All files uploaded have the default permission set to 700. Is there a way to change it to 755?
[08:35] <smiley7>  i guess not
[08:36] <bullgard4>  /var/log.boot.log reports: "Starting mDNS/DNS-SD daemon" but System Monitor does not show such a daemon. How come?
[08:36] <atlef> \DSAFEW\: thx
[08:36] <galerien> Hi ! I'm using ubuntu 11.04 since yesterday and I was wondering if I should install my Nvidia drivers, because I can only run gnome 2 without them... (G 210M)
[08:37] <galerien> Meaning : is it going to work or crash
[08:38] <\DSAFEW\> galerien, nvidias are pretty good with linux, and you can always go back to the old one if it fails
[08:38] <atlef> !natty | galerien
[08:38] <\DSAFEW\> galerien, you should use the software manager though, don't install it from a website
[08:39] <galerien> So the automated driver installer ? (the motherboard icone thing ?)
[08:40] <galerien> atlef: I don't care if I crash, I just prefer not to reinstall
[08:41] <Innxis> The Bournemouth Incident
[08:41] <Innxis> Oh sorry
[08:41] <Innxis> Wrong box
[08:41] <atlef> galerien: #ubuntu+1 is for discussing beta releases
[08:41] <GVal> hi guys
[08:42] <Innxis> A bit of a situation here. I have a folder in which I upload files via FTP. All files uploaded have the default permission set to 700. Is there a way to change it to 755?
[08:42] <GVal> may someone help me with device.map of grub ? thanks
[08:42] <galerien> atlef : ok, thanks
[08:42] <lizard1> hi all
[08:42] <atlef> hi
[08:42] <Innxis> :|
[08:43] <lizard1> sorry for writing here, please help me
[08:43] <GVal> may someone help me with device.map of grub ? thanks
[08:43] <lizard1> i can't start X
[08:43] <coz_> lizard1,  what is the issue?
[08:44] <lizard1> here from weechat
[08:44] <Innxis> lizard: startx ?
[08:44] <lizard1> yes
[08:44] <coz_> lizard1,  do you have a black screen with blinking cursor
[08:44] <Innxis> lizard1: what error are you being given?
[08:44] <lizard1> at first i look conn not found /usr/bin/X
[08:45] <lizard1> after that i type apt-get install xinit ubuntu-desktop
[08:45] <lizard1> so i get error: nvidia drivers not found
[08:46] <Innxis> lizard1: what version of ubuntu are you trying to run?
[08:46] <lizard1> if i type apt-get install nvidia-current i agan get error: /usr/bin/X not found
[08:46] <lizard1> ubuntu 10.10
[08:46] <coz_> lizard1,  did you install this with a live cd ?
[08:46] <lizard1> no
[08:46] <lizard1> from ditrib
[08:47] <Innxis> lizard1: try sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[08:47] <Innxis> lizard1: What do you mean from ditrib?
[08:47] <coz_> lizard1,  I dont understand  that either
[08:47] <ari> hello !  I have Ubuntu 10.10, after connecting to VPN server, it blocks all internet traffic. How to get it working ?
[08:48] <coz_> lizard1,  what is your native language ?
[08:48] <lizard1> russian but instead rus-letters i have white squares
[08:49] <lizard1> sorry for bad english (
[08:49] <coz_> lizard1,  no problem
[08:49] <Innxis> A bit of a situation here. I have a folder in which I upload files via FTP. All files uploaded have the default permission set to 700. Is there a way to change it to 755?
[08:49] <userdel> which is the best platform for developing sis files?
[08:49] <lizard1> from distributin ean that i dowload ubuntu10.10.iso and install this
[08:50] <Innxis> lizard1: have you tried what I've suggested you?
[08:50] <coz_> lizard1,  you downloaded the ico on another system ? and then installed directly from the iso?
[08:50] <YankDownUnder> Innxis, Have you checked the ftp server configuration to see if it will automagically set the perms to 755 ?
[08:50] <lizard1> yes i try, packages downloading now
[08:50] <GVal> who can help me with grub ?
[08:51] <coz_> GVal,  I am not expert in grub,,, #grub may be helpful if no one here can help,, what is the issue ?
[08:51] <Innxis> YankDownUnder: My FTP server sets all the file permissions automatically to 700.
[08:51] <Innxis> I want to change that to 755.
[08:51] <GVal> i have
[08:51] <lizard1> yes, download under WinXP
[08:51] <alex88_> GVal: ask your question..and if someone knows the answer will help :)
[08:51] <GVal> to change the boot device that all
[08:52] <lizard1> chmod +x?
[08:52] <coz_> GVal,  change it from which to what?
[08:53] <GVal> from dev/sdb1
[08:53] <bullgard4>  /var/log.boot.log reports: "Starting mDNS/DNS-SD daemon" but System Monitor does not show such a daemon. How come?
[08:53] <GVal> to sda1 where my linux os is located
[08:54] <coz_> GVal,   where you type here,, type    /join #grub    they will likely be able to help
[08:54] <GVal> have a look guys http://paste.ubuntu.com/591626/
[08:54] <atlef> GVal: a lot of info here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[08:56] <daVinciIT> hi all! I'm looking for a software that save a screenshot programmatically every 5seconds... do you know something? thank you.
[08:56] <lizard1> Innxis, coz_, after install nvidia-glx syste ask me for installing nvidia-current
[08:57] <YankDownUnder> Innxis, Um...ok...so have you thought about changing the server settings so that the perms for uploaded files will be set to 755?
[08:57] <jasonwryan> Networking puzzle: I can't access sites with content served from Amazon's cloud servers (quora, bitbucket) with FF or graphical browser. Ping & text browsers work fine. Any ideas?
[08:57] <GVal> atlef i am talking about grub1
[08:57] <Innxis> YankDownUnder: That's what I'm trying to do
[08:57] <bullgard4> daVinciIT: You can solve your problem by writing a cronjob in a script.
[08:58] <Innxis> YanDownUnder: Just that I don't know exactly how to do it
[08:58] <daVinciIT> cronjob?
[08:58] <lizard1> daVinciIT: crontab -l
[08:58] <daVinciIT> bulgard4: thank you.
[08:58] <daVinciIT> lizard1: thank you.
[08:59] <meofi> hi~ Which lib package is the gtkdoc one
[08:59] <shocktop> is there anything for ubuntu that simulates the goodness of cocaine? :>
[09:00] <bullgard4> shocktop: Stop trolling.
[09:00] <daVinciIT> .. I've a problem... crontab execute job every 1minute....
[09:00] <daVinciIT> I need every 6 seconds... :D
[09:00] <userdel> which is the best platform for developing sis files?
[09:00] <shocktop> er, whati mean is, what's some good software to install on a fresh installation?
[09:00] <lizard1> daVinciIT: 1-60/6
[09:00] <Seveas> daVinciIT, then run it as a daemon that fires off the job every 6 seconds
[09:01] <YankDownUnder> Innxis, What server are you using?
[09:01] <daVinciIT> ok I try thank you all.
[09:01] <lizard1> daVinciIT: 1oy, sorry by script, for() sleep(600)
[09:01] <Innxis> YankDownUnder: Ubuntu Server 10.10
[09:01] <lizard1> daVinciIT: and run script every minute
[09:01] <Seveas> lizard1, that's 10 minutes, not 6 seconds.
[09:02] <staar2> how to install ff3.6 to if i have ff4 ?
[09:02] <YankDownUnder> Innxis, I'll assume you've been to the Ubuntu Server home page and looked through the documentation online?
[09:02] <Seveas> staar2, download tarball, install in /usr/local
[09:03] <om26er> !test
[09:03] <ruan> staar2: how did you install ff4?
[09:03] <shocktop> man these live cd's pwn.
[09:04] <ruan> staar2: if you want to have both, you'll need to download the tar.gz from mozilla.org
[09:04] <stimpie> I 'need' to install ubuntu on a laptop with windows (and a recovery partition) what is the best way to do this? use wubi? repartition and use grub?
[09:05] <lizard1> Innxis: i get error can not found /usr/bin/X again :(
[09:06] <tvalladon> Running Ubuntu 10.10 server on a vps I am getting the error "tasksel: debconf failed to run" when trying to run tasksel as root. No other error messages are offered. I did a apt-get clean and apt-get update. Aptitude runs and installs fine, apt-get installs and runs fine. I have googled but the only suggestion I see is sudo, but I am running as root.
[09:06] <Innxis> YankDownUnder: Yes, and the solution to the problem I encountered is not in there
[09:06] <staar2> ruan well i added repo and updated the ff
[09:06] <Seveas> stimpie, boot the livecd, start the installer, do partitioning from within there. Also let it install grub
[09:06] <tvalladon> Only modification to default install so far is moving sshd to a different port.
[09:07] <Seveas> basically, all the default actions :)
[09:07] <[Spooky]> Is there a equlaizer for Rythmobox?
[09:07] <Innxis> YankDownUnder: Also, i've found the same problem on this topic: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=161547 . No solution there either.
[09:09] <lizard1> Innxis: i get error can not found /usr/bin/X again :(
[09:09] <stimpie> Seveas, thats exactly what I was thinking about but wubi looks interesting
[09:10] <Innxis> lizard1: I have no idea what you could do, sorry.
[09:10] <lizard1> Innxis: thank for try.
[09:10] <Innxis> lizard1: To be honest with you I'm running Mac, I'm only using a linux server with no graphical interface.
[09:10] <benzaldehyde> wow, printing in ubuntu seems almost vengeful. my system locked up on my first test page print in ubuntu. it rebooted and immediately reprinted the document to my dismay
[09:10] <lizard1> Innxis: may be you can help me with squares instead letters?
[09:11] <Innxis> lizard1: You have to install the russian language pack
[09:11] <benzaldehyde> i have a stylus r280 printer that prints on CDs, does anyone know how to use that feature in linux, thanks
[09:11] <xevious> I've put the Ubuntu 10.10 LiveCD ISO on a USB stick. Is there any way to convert it to a permanent install where software I install to it remains installed between reboots?
[09:12] <lizard1> Innxis: trouble in that: i have screen not 80:20
[09:12] <Innxis> lizard1: fix the screen, then, fix the language pack
[09:12] <lizard1> Innxis: in normal screen i have normal letters
[09:12] <Innxis> lizard1: or reinstall ubuntu using the english language as default
[09:13] <lizard1> but i don't know how it return
[09:15] <benzaldehyde> xevious: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[09:15] <[deXter]> Hi all, does anyone know of a Hardware Compatibility List for known working USB headsets for Ubuntu? Thanks.
[09:16] <YankDownUnder> Innxis, What is the server (ftp) that you're running - is it vsftpd?
[09:16] <lizard1> anyone can help me fix "can not found /usr/bin/X"?
[09:17] <Innxis> YankDownUnder: What else could it be?
[09:17] <ikonia> lizard1: what are you doing thats giving you that error
[09:17] <YankDownUnder> Innxis, Mate, I don't know, and I can't second guess...that's why I'm asking you...
[09:17] <benzaldehyde> [deXter]: http://hwdb.ubuntu.com/
[09:18] <[deXter]> benzaldehyde: Thanks!
[09:18] <lizard1> ikonia: try upgrade my system to 11.04
[09:18] <tuhin> which is the BEST laptop power management tool?
[09:18] <ikonia> lizard1: 11.04 is not stable or supported
[09:18] <ikonia> lizard1: you can disscuss it in #ubuntu+1 channel
[09:19] <lizard1> ikonia: nut system not begin upgraded because "you have hold packeges, solve it and try again"
[09:20] <ikonia> lizard1: yes, 11.04 is not supported at this time as it's not stable, you can discuss it in #ubuntu+1 channel
[09:20] <lizard1> ikonia: system also say me , that for this i need reboot in recovery mode and run dpkg -f
[09:20] <lizard1> ikonia: after that i lose X
[09:20] <ikonia> lizard1: listed to what I've just said
[09:21] <lizard1> ikonia: i have 10.10 now
[09:21] <ikonia> lizard1: you've tried to upgrade to 11.04
[09:21] <riverwalker> hah
[09:21] <ikonia> lizard1: that process is not supported as 11.04 is not stable yet, please discuss it in #ubuntu+1
[09:21] <riverwalker> you ren ma
[09:21] <lizard1> ikonia: it's not begin
[09:21] <ikonia> lizard1: that process is not supported as 11.04 is not stable yet, please discuss it in #ubuntu+1
[09:21] <jasonwryan> Networking puzzle: I can't access sites with content served from Amazon's cloud servers (quora, bitbucket) with FF or graphical browser. Ping & text browsers work fine. Any ideas?
[09:21] <lizard1> ikonia: simple update not begin by this ptrouble
[09:22] <ikonia> lizard1: that process is NOT SUPPORTED you can discuss it in #ubuntu+1
[09:22] <riverwalker> us?
[09:22] <lizard1> ikonia: sorry, ok.
[09:22] <riverwalker> talk in english ?
[09:22] <pooky> Is it possible to have ldap authentication without using remote home directories?
[09:22] <ikonia> riverwalker: channel is English language, yes
[09:23] <ikonia> pooky: sure is
[09:23] <pooky> ikonia: do you know how to ignore the homeDirectory attribute?
[09:23] <tuhin> which is the BEST laptop power management tool?
[09:23] <riverwalker> which contry are you from ?
[09:23] <pooky> ikonia: I set this up so long ago and I just want to use /home
[09:23] <ikonia> riverwalker: many different countries in this channel
[09:23] <Innxis> YankDownUnder: I've managed to fix it, thanks anyway
[09:24] <riverwalker> England?
[09:24] <ikonia> pooky: you have to null it within the schema, so it falls back I think
[09:24] <ikonia> riverwalker: many different countries, however we only allow ubuntu support chat in here
[09:24] <YankDownUnder> Innxis, Roger that.
[09:24] <pooky> ikonia: mmm, on the server itself? I still need it set for other machines, it's just on this ubuntu box that I want to use /home/uid
[09:24] <riverwalker> Americans?
[09:25] <ikonia> pooky: ah, not sure how you could do that
[09:25] <pooky> ikonia: the net latency is too high and makes using the box a pain. I'll set up unison to synch to the network drive.
[09:25] <ikonia> pooky: I can see that being a problem
[09:25] <ikonia> riverwalker: many places, please stop asking
[09:26] <riverwalker> me? stop asking
[09:26] <riverwalker> sorry
[09:26] <ikonia> riverwalker: yes
[09:26] <pooky> ikonia: been trying to look at things like nss_map and such
[09:27] <pooky> ikonia: most of the solutions are for using a different mount point :/
[09:27] <ikonia> pooky: oooh, isn't there an ldap schemea entry the same as auto_home for nis ?
[09:27] <ikonia> I wonder if you could use that to override it
[09:27] <riverwalker> i just want to know more imformations about this
[09:27] <ikonia> riverwalker: sorry, we only talk about ubuntu support in here
[09:28] <cinnabarisland12> potential ubuntu user here, just need help with a pesky wifi card
[09:28] <DirtyDawg> cinnabarisland12: best advice is to state your issue, maybe someone can help
[09:29] <ejina> тест
[09:29] <example92> goodmorning! i need your help!!
[09:29] <pooky> тест?
[09:29] <cinnabarisland12> DirtyDawg: ok problem is this, I have a Ralink RT3090BC4 card in my laptop and it just won't work with Ubuntu
[09:30] <ejina> проверял настройку локали))
[09:30] <ikonia> !english | ejina
[09:30] <atlef> !ru | ejina
[09:31] <Goooo> Hi, I'm beginner with ubuntu and I just need to install a soft in console but I need help, someone can help me ?
[09:32] <cinnabarisland12> RT3090BC4 card not working, any ieas? I've tried Markus Heberling's driver but it's hit & miss whether it works or not
[09:32] <ikonia> !software | Goooo
[09:33] <example92> ubottu can you help me with something?
[09:33] <ejina> Люди, скажите, куда мог подеваться индикатор переключения раскладки? тот, что на панели в правом верху
[09:33] <ikonia> ejina: stop, english only please
[09:34] <Goooo> ikonia : I need to  symlink to the headers of the kernel you are running now in    /usr/src/, How can I do this ?
[09:34] <ejina> ok
[09:34] <ikonia> Goooo: ln -s is the symlink command
[09:35] <cinnabarisland12> RT3090BC4 card not working, any ideas? I've tried Markus Heberling's driver but it's hit & miss whether it works or not
[09:35] <Goooo> Ok and what do I need to put after that ?
[09:35] <tuhin> today i m first time in this irc
[09:36] <tuhin> which is the BEST laptop power management tool?
[09:36] <Goooo> I think taht the name of the symlink nedd to be : linux-2.6.35-22-generic
[09:36] <example92> anybosy to help me with my webcam?
[09:36] <example92> *anybody
[09:37] <asd2> How can I make "sudo fancontrol" command be executed at startup?
[09:37] <cinnabarisland12> RT3090BC4 card not working, any ieas? I've tried Markus Heberling's driver but it's hit & miss whether it works or not
[09:39] <YankDownUnder> cinnabarisland12, Have you checked to see if the driver is being blacklisted in the /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf ??
[09:40] <cinnabarisland12> YankDownUnder: yeah I've looked in there before there isn't anything about Ralink at all
[09:41] <YankDownUnder> cinnabarisland12, It's not going to be listed as Ralink - but something like RT309 or so...does the NIC work when you use a liveCD ?
[09:41] <cinnabarisland12> YankDownUnder: NIC? Should've mentioned i'm somewhat of a noob
[09:41] <Sivert3> got "INFO: task pdflush:5483 blocked for more than 120 seconds." (in dmesg) during a archive unpack on ubuntu 9.10
[09:43] <YankDownUnder> cinnabarisland12, network card (NIC)
[09:44] <sungji> hm how do I get the IP of my router in ad-hoc mode?
[09:44] <cinnabarisland12> YankDownUnder: Yes and no, sometimes it works and I connect to the network but on reboot it doesn't connect and sometimes it outright won't work
[09:45] <cinnabarisland12> YankDownUnder: I should probably also mentione i'm on Windows at the moment
[09:45] <bullgard4>  /var/log.boot.log reports: "Starting mDNS/DNS-SD daemon" but System Monitor does not show such a daemon. How come?
[09:47] <YankDownUnder> cinnabarisland12, Mate, an idea would be to boot with a liveCD, see if the network works - if SO, then you'll be able to find out what driver is being loaded for yer card...THEN you can move ahead and get yer Ubuntu installation fixed up...
[09:48] <cinnabarisland12> YankDownUnder: not too sure that'll work but I'll give it a shot, thanks :-)
[09:49] <sungji> I've got an ethernet connection to my router and I get the IP 169.254.41.28 from it. Now I'd like to access the router's config website, but how do I get its IP?
[09:49] <amalgama> does anyone know a good program for changing the "encoding" of a file, eg video or text, and provide a password for that?
[09:51] <kingspider677> hello everyone
[09:55] <apc_> Peddy, who are you?
[09:57] <khaaan> hi i just installed 10.04 and am getting a file not found error with grub
[09:58] <khaaan> did some weird partitioning this time cause the storage medias i'm using are too small to hold ubuntu on one of them.. so that might be it dunno
[09:59] <ari__> what causes VPN to block all net traffic ? Any ideas ?
[10:01] <s3r3n1t7> ari__, the very basic of VPN causes that. It's to prevent any leaks or breakin on the private connection of VPN.
[10:01] <AzizLight> Hi everybody
[10:03] <daVinciIT> hi all. Ubuntu Netbook. how to connect automatically Empathy account? thank you
[10:04] <s3r3n1t7> daVinciIT, add it to your session (system - preferences - session)
[10:04] <s3r3n1t7> daVinciIT, apology, startup application instead of session
[10:04] <daVinciIT> I try thank you.
[10:04] <rajvi> hi all on 10.10 on a dell netbook .. my Ubuntu is becoming sluggish i have a installed a progarm BIONIC long time back and uninstalled it long time back .. But after 3 months today i realished that
[10:05] <rajvi> contd .. That The Bionic Process was still running .. Please HELp
[10:05] <ari__> s3r3n1t7: I doubt that. VPN purpose is to provide secure pipeline to VPN server and then reach net from it. That's the way it work when firing up the other OS. Ubuntu connects correctly to server but does not expose the pipeline to apps
[10:06] <rajvi> anyone tried BIONIC on Ubuntu
[10:06] <bullgard4> amalgama: Why do you want to change the encoding of a file? This normally will make your file unfunctional.
[10:07] <amalgama> bullgard4, as protection for the file from unwanted view
[10:07] <s3r3n1t7> ari__, and to make sure the private network you're connecting to stays private, it blocks all open net connection. If the server you're connecting to doesn't support an internet connection going out then effectively VPN will block all net traffic.
[10:07] <amalgama> of course, i want to be able to reverse the procedure
[10:07] <amalgama> :)
[10:08] <rajvi> i quit .. bye all i think this room is not for newbies
[10:08] <bullgard4> amalgama: A better solution is to narrow the access rights for this file.
[10:08] <avinashhm> Hi, can we launch some applicatoins at start of ubuntu .. like i want to launch xchat at the boot of ubuntu .. any way ?
[10:08] <s3r3n1t7> avinashhm, add the program to your startup applications --> system - preferences - startup applications
[10:08] <eyadof> hi all in ubuntu 10.10 i tryed to install gnome 3 i add the reposity and run apt-get update but when i try to install gnome-desktop3 i receive an error :unable to locate package gnome-desktop3 can anyone help.please?
[10:09] <benzaldehyde> if sungji comes back tell him it is cat /var/lib/dhcp/dhclient.leases
[10:09] <amalgama> bullgard4, i dont think that would work if the file is in a hard drive and can be connected in any computer
[10:09] <smash420> right, i need a media player that i can use to sync audio to my mp3 player. which work at it?
[10:09] <avinashhm> s3r3n1t7, thanks .. this will work for me .. just wandering , any command line way ..
[10:09] <bastidrazor> eyadof: that would mean 'gnome-desktop3' is not the name of the package for it. look at the page you used to add the repo
[10:09] <s3r3n1t7> avinashhm, a commandline way to add programs to be launched when you login graphically? I'm sure there is but i've never used it.
[10:10] <varis2> hi - I have a usb install of ubuntu, which often asks for a password... "user" with empty password doesn't seem to work
[10:10] <avinashhm> s3r3n1t7, no problem .. thanks for your time buddy .. i ll check out in the runlevel scripts .. thanks agian
[10:10] <bullgard4> amalgama: In that case a solution is to put that file in a directory and encrypt the access to this directory.
[10:11] <amalgama> bullgard4, hmm... let me check
[10:12] <varis2> any idea what to try to use the system?
[10:13] <atlef> smash420: have you tried rhythmbox?
[10:14] <smash420> atlef: yeah it seems to work its magic quite happily but when i disconnect the mp3 player there's no music on it
[10:14] <bullgard4> varis2: Such schemes often do not work with an empty password for security reasons. So you better adopt a password which is not empty.
[10:14] <benzaldehyde> varis2: You can set a password during a LiveCD session by opening a terminal, and typing in:
[10:14] <benzaldehyde> varis2: $ sudo passwd ubuntu
[10:15] <dee|dee> hi all, how to make ubuntu run on text mode?
[10:15] <benzaldehyde> varis2: omit $
[10:15] <rajvi> hello u guys BOINIC issue figured it out myself :)
[10:15] <dee|dee> I don;t find gdm on rc2.d
[10:15] <benzaldehyde> varis2: but also help says to leave both fields blank and press enter or wait for it to time out
[10:15] <varis2> how do I open a terminal - it seems the consoles don't activate?
[10:16] <bullgard4> dee|dee: Open a terminal. then you will be able to run Ubuntu in text mode.
[10:16] <the_holstar> what the command to change the password?
[10:16] <the_holstar> I am a newbie
[10:16] <the_holstar> :(
[10:16] <Kawohi> I learned how to stream my music from my laptop to here, my desktop. this is great !
[10:16] <benzaldehyde> varis2: try ctrl+alt+f1
[10:16] <varis2> benza: yes that didn't work :-/
[10:17] <bullgard4> the_holstar: Please read 'man passwd'.
[10:17] <benzaldehyde> varis2: try alt+f1
[10:17] <dee|dee> bullgard4, i mean i don;t want gdm start on startup
[10:17] <dee|dee> just CLI
[10:17] <varis2> benza: to be exact, it gives me the console view but no shell/login
[10:17] <varis2> just... blinking white cursor on black screen
[10:17] <Flannel> bullgard4: Please don't tell people to rtfm.
[10:18] <benzaldehyde> varis2: try ctrl+c
[10:18] <ari__> s3r3n1t7,  For me the whole purpose to use this vpn service is to access internet without operator restrictions. And I can access net unrestricted trough this vpn service using win on my other pc. But ubuntu in laptop does not work correctly  and i can't access anything with vpn. without vpn I can.
[10:19] <bullgard4> dee|dee: If you do not login to gdm, the program gdm will not start.
[10:19] <varis2> benza: that is no use... but it has a text "authentication failure" printed a few times on the screen...
[10:19] <Flannel> the_holstar: System > Preferences > About Me, then "Change Password" ( https://help.ubuntu.com/10.10/keeping-safe/C/passwords.html )
[10:19] <varis2> ctrl+d and a few others are no help too
[10:20] <s3r3n1t7> bullgard4, i think what you mean is, when you don't login to GDM then GDM will not start the startup applications. In order to login to GDM, it will have to be running
[10:20] <benzaldehyde> varis2: what were your parameters, you are working with a usb live version of desktop 10.04? 10.10? is it a custom build
[10:21] <varis2> it's pretty vanilla... how old is 10.04? I made this in dec or jan I think
[10:21] <varis2> and no special parameters of any kind afair
[10:21] <varis2> I just grabbed an image and made the usb
[10:21] <dee|dee> bullgard4,  I think u did't got the point. I don't want gdm stuff  start on startup. which mean no login with GUI stuff.
[10:22] <Kawohi> hey guys how do I uninstall openOffice?
[10:22] <coz_> deegee_,  you want automatic login ...yes?
[10:23] <s3r3n1t7> deegee_, so remove the executable bit from /etc/init.d/gdm
[10:23] <coz_> deegee_,  if automatic login is what you want,, open /system/administration/login screen
[10:24] <coz_> deegee_,  you can set the system to log in automatically from there
[10:24] <coz_> deegee_,  that should buypass gdm screen
[10:26] <Dr_Willis> dee|dee:  the 'text' option to the kernel can also start straight to console, no gdm, no plymouth.
[10:27] <Dr_Willis> but if you want login to X automatically. thats a gdm setting.
[10:27] <eamon> dee|dee: in /etc/rc.conf # out the line with /etc/xdm
[10:27] <Dr_Willis> or rename /etc/init/gdm.conf (i think) to be like gdm.DONTRUN
[10:29] <varis2> how long does it take for this dialog to time out, it's been sitting there for a few minutes?
[10:30] <Dr_Willis> varis2:  clarify what you mean. You got a 2nd irc nick here that you are waiting to die?
[10:30] <benzaldehyde> varis2: if i were you i'd try shutting down and go again but then let the password time out, if that sill does not do anything i don't know. i have never used a live cd. if there is a pre-boot like kboot to it you might try typing sh to get a shell and fsck the removable drive. not sure what to tell you. possibly do a badblocks scan on it from sh
[10:30] <Dr_Willis> If its a reg'd nick - you can kill it with the proper nickserv commands.
[10:31] <benzaldehyde> Dr_Willis: no
[10:31] <benzaldehyde> Dr_Willis: he is using the live cd
[10:31] <benzaldehyde> Dr_Willis: it asked him for a password and he left it blank and hit enter but nothing happened
[10:31] <varis2> hm sh as init might work :)
[10:32] <varis2> I'll try that, thanks
[10:32] <Dr_Willis> ive seen bad cd/iso/usb installs ask for a password for ubuntu on the live setup. but the password is blank. You could go to the console and set a password if you wanted
[10:32] <bouma> is the start of the drive faster? or the end? for the swap part?
[10:32] <bouma> the start is the outside isnt it?
[10:32] <benzaldehyde> Dr_Willis: so now he is trying to let it time out. when he tries to get to a shell it does not give a prompt and all attempts to ctrl+c or ctrl+d won't give him an area tologin
[10:33] <Dr_Willis> bouma:  these days i dont think it matters that much. If you are using swap - thats a bigger slowdown then the drive speed differances.
[10:33] <Dr_Willis> by a HUGE factor.
[10:33] <bouma> so doesnt the platter move at a constant angular vel, hence faster linear at the outside?
[10:33] <bouma> Dr_Willis: right, but which ?
[10:33] <bouma> Dr_Willis: cause im partitioning for an install
[10:33] <Dr_Willis> bouma:  the speed differances would be perhaps a few % vs a  HUGE hit when you do use swap.
[10:34] <Dr_Willis> bouma:  its not really worth bothering about these days. I put swap at the end. its easier to work with there.
[10:34] <raven_> hi
[10:35] <varis2> oh dear, just added init=/bin/sh and now it says it disconnected from boot status daemon
[10:35] <Dr_Willis> (boot)(/)(/home)(Swap)
[10:35] <raven_> running 11.04 beta in virtualbox tells me hardware does not support unity. will this be fixed running it on a real machine?
[10:35] <benzaldehyde> varis2: i assume you are a he
[10:35] <benzaldehyde> varis2: if not sorry
[10:35] <Dr_Willis> raven_:  unity needs 3d support. there is a Unity in the gdm login listing that does not need 3d.
[10:35] <Dr_Willis> raven_:  check #ubuntu+1 channel for 11.04 support.
[10:35] <varis2> yes, np :)
[10:35] <raven_> ok
[10:36] <bouma> Dr_Willis: did a benchmark with "disk utility" and the graph goes from 70mb/s peak to 35mb/s, but the indepenent axis is 100%, what does that graph show exactly ?
[10:36] <Dr_Willis> bouma:  no idea.
[10:37] <varis2> interesting, got some more errors, it says "sudo: unknown user: ubuntu"
[10:37] <Dr_Willis> could be its measuering speeda at the start/end.. but raw speed tests are often not very good mebchmarks.
[10:37] <bouma> Dr_Willis: thats the blue joined plot, there is a bunch of green points too for the right hand scale which is in ms not mb, i guess for seek time
[10:38] <bouma> Dr_Willis: so minimum 34mb/s, max 72mb/s, that seems worth choosing one over the other
[10:38] <varis2> there's casper-premount which is run during boot
[10:38] <varis2> hey cool, now I seem to have a shell
[10:39] <jamshid> hi
[10:39] <Dr_Willis> bouma:  i doubt if you will notice any differance..  go ahead and do what you want.
[10:40] <jamshid> hello
[10:40] <Dr_Willis> bouma:  if you are using swap at all. that will be a MUCH bigger hit on preformace then  where the swap is at. If you really want to optmize swap. Put it on a differnt hard drive.. or on several hard drives.
[10:40] <bouma> Dr_Willis: also its an old computer with only 512meg ram, so im a bit more concerned that its an extremely simple way of improving the worst case situation by not a few % but over 100%
[10:40] <jamshid> do you hear
[10:40] <Dr_Willis> jamshid:  we see you.
[10:41] <Dr_Willis> bouma:  you would gain much more preformace by upping the ram if you can track more  down.
[10:41] <coz_> oy
[10:41] <bouma> Dr_Willis: consider if swap was on flash (which ive never tried) that is said to make a significant difference. i mean consider people say ssd's are the single biggest improvement theyve seen in years
[10:41]  * Dr_Willis has a large box of old ram collected from deat pc's
[10:41] <benzaldehyde> bouma: it has always been my impression that the disk spins faster the farther you get from the center
[10:41] <Dr_Willis> bouma:  on my machines im rarely ever hitting swap.
[10:41] <coz_> bouma,  ah wouldnt that slow things  down
[10:42] <dee|dee> Dr_Willis, where should I put that option? I'm not  familiar with grub2 config
[10:42] <benzaldehyde> bouma: if you have ever burned a cd you might notice your drive quick up a few times nearing the end
[10:42] <Dr_Willis> dee|dee:  replace the 'quiet splash' option with 'quiet nosplash text' (or perhaps just text)
[10:42] <benzaldehyde> *kick up
[10:42] <coz_> Dr_Willis,  unfortunately I hit swap when edition large image files  120mets are larger
[10:42] <coz_> editing
[10:42] <coz_> 120megs
[10:42] <Dr_Willis> cd's can actually spin faster/slower. I think HD's are constant RPM.
[10:42] <coz_> darn fingers
[10:43] <bouma> Dr_Willis: true, but it would be second hand ram, cause its not made anymore, and ive had trouble finding any on ebay. and for some reason "vintage" stuff has now got a premium, you seen how much a good agp video card goes for, far more than what its worth vs the cheapest pcie card which is several times better
[10:43] <s3r3n1t7> Dr_Willis, close, when HD's are in use their RPM is constant, no matter where it's being read
[10:43] <Dr_Willis> bouma:  ive tossed/given away all my old hardware. :) had to many
[10:43] <s3r3n1t7> Dr_Willis, however, a HD can be spin down when not in use
[10:43] <bouma> benzaldehyde: right but a cd starts from the inside, i know that. what im asking is, does a hdd start from the outside? i'm not sure
[10:43] <coz_> bouma,  whoa not agp cards arent that expensive right now  I bought one for one of my systems  6700gt for about $30
[10:43] <Dr_Willis> I DO think theres some newer 'green' hd's that can slow down partially also..
[10:43] <rajenfcy> I had installed Ubuntu 10.10 inside windows 2003. in WIndows I had a malware scan (spybot) followed by virus scan (Avira). Now the is not detected in BIOS. Disk had 3 partitions and other two partitions contain valuable data. Can anybody suggest how to overcome this problem. Thanking you. Rajen
[10:44] <coz_> bouma,  and that was new in the box
[10:44] <dee|dee> right, for grub 2 , what is the config file?. something like 'menu.lst' file on previous version
[10:44] <Dr_Willis> rajenfcy:  clarify that problem. I think somthing got lost in translation.
[10:44] <bouma> coz_: far out i would kill to get that exact card for that price. what country? i guess australia is a smaller market. perhaps it might be worth paying international postage on top, but i generally look locally and .. i'll look right now
[10:44] <coz_> bouma,  US
[10:45] <dee|dee> I just see a script on /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[10:45] <Dr_Willis> dee|dee:  you can edit the boot line in the grub menu and replace the 'quiet splash' with 'text' or edit /etc/default/grub and rerun update-grub
[10:45] <s3r3n1t7> bouma, coz_, would you mind taking the chat about graphic cards to #ubuntu-offtopic?
[10:45] <Dr_Willis> dee|dee:  notice the words at teh top of grub.cfg   *do not edit that file* :)
[10:45] <coz_> s3r3n1t7,  sorry  I know better
[10:45] <bender> hi, when i turn on the PC i notice that Ubuntu is ready in few seconds and my adsl modem is still wakeing up. So Ubuntu doesn't connect to the lan and never try again and in order to connect to the lan i have to say it manually and that's annoying. Can I do something to make Ubuntu 10.10 to scan for network cable periodically?
[10:46] <bouma> Dr_Willis: this isnt mine, its my uncles computer who doesnt want to spend any money on fixing it, and its over 10years old. but actually does everything he needs, runs linux beautifully, new 22" samsung lcd monitor mind you. torrent dont down load that fast that you need a core2 vs an old P4
[10:46] <dee|dee> Dr_Willis, got it
[10:46] <Dr_Willis> bender:  you could put a command in /etc/rc.local to restart networking after 15 sec or so perhaps.
[10:46] <atlef> dee|dee: a lot of useful info here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[10:47] <ljsoftnet> how can i disable window grouping in dockbarx?
[10:47] <bender> Dr_Willis, thanx but how? You know that windows recognize a network when you plug and unplug the whire but ubuntu doesn't is it a bug or can i solve it some way?
[10:47] <rajenfcy> After doing malware and virus scan in windows. HDD failed to detected in BIOS. I have to discard the disk. Bu I am worried about the stored data
[10:47] <bouma> s3r3n1t7: ok, im not talking about that. i just wondered if anyone knew if the start or end of a hdd was faster. i just benchmarked and got min 34meg/s vs 72meg/s max and need every bit of speed i can on a 512meg ram p4. im partitioning now so im trying to proceed with the install. but if nobody knows.. i did try googling first but didnt get anywhere
[10:47] <benzaldehyde> bouma: i would not imagine the start sector starting at the outside in if that is what you are asking but i suppose it is possible
[10:48] <benzaldehyde> bouma: if you find out let me know
[10:48] <s3r3n1t7> bouma, i'm not talking about your benchmarking, that is a support question. However, you were also talking about the graphics card. I was only asking if you would take that subject to offtopic.
[10:48] <Dr_Willis> bender:  put  a command like 'sleep 20 && service networking restart' in /etc/rc.local
[10:48] <bouma> benzaldehyde: well the outside should be faster so it makes sense to me that in a hdd where the end is likely to be empty, so design them to use the outside first, ie the start of the drive.
[10:48] <bouma> s3r3n1t7: np
[10:49] <benzaldehyde> bouma: this might be mythbuster-worthy
[10:49] <bouma> benzaldehyde: but i dont actually know
[10:49] <Dr_Willis> if you got swap at one end.. and your datas at the other end.. and its accessing both..  that may make some cases worse.. then if swap was in the middle. :)
[10:49] <Dr_Willis> I recall huge threads on the topic of where to put swap years and years ago..
[10:49] <Dr_Willis> Put swap at both ends. :)
[10:49] <bender> Dr_Willis: ok, so what does this command do?
[10:50] <Dr_Willis> bender:  it restarts networking...
[10:50] <coz_> you can put swap on another drive,, not sure if that speeds things up
[10:50] <Dr_Willis> swap on a differnt HD would be a better case in most setups.
[10:50] <bender> Dr_Willis: each 20 seconds automatically?
[10:50] <Dr_Willis> bender:  speep 20 = waits 20 sec to restart networking..
[10:51] <bouma> Dr_Willis: ah but so far im thinking that the swap should go in partition 1, then the rest so that would actually be better according to the good point you just raised. whereas putting the swap at the end, a convention which i admit i generally used to do before this instance, would be the case of seeking from the /bin;/usr;... and swap, backwards and forwards from the start to the end
[10:51] <bender> Dr_Willis, ok I'll give a try :) thank you
[10:51] <Dr_Willis> rc.local is ran Once at boot up.. so the system boots..  then in the background  a few sec later.. networking will get restarted.. and hopefully your modem will be ready by then
[10:52] <Dr_Willis> bouma:  now you know why It probetly wont matter. :0 theres to many other vbariables.. so it will depend on what the user is doing.
[10:53] <Dr_Willis> moar ram would boost system by reduceing swap used.. AND cacheing other data on the disk..   thats why moar ram is such a bonus.
[10:53] <rajenfcy> Dr. Willis: After doing malware and virus scan in windows it was shut down. Thereafter it could not restart. HDD failed to be detected in BIOS. I am forced to discard the disk. But am worried about the stored data
[10:53] <Dr_Willis> rajenfcy:  try putting the HD in a usb enclosure, or other machine, see if it can be seen/data revovered
[10:54] <coz_> Dr_Willis,   that wo uld be my suggestion as well
[10:54] <Dr_Willis> rajenfcy:  theres other tools out that can  try to recover data also.. unless you just want to trash it :)
[10:54] <benzaldehyde> Dr_Willis: swap is kind of like the blackbox of air travel, why not make the entire plane out of the black box if it is the only thing that survives the crash, 100 swap :D
[10:54] <benzaldehyde> *100 percent
[10:55] <coz_> rajenfcy,  are you worried about security  with the files on that drive?
[10:55] <Dr_Willis> benzaldehyde:  black box's can get destroyed..
[10:55] <Dr_Willis> and they are Bright Orange also..
[10:55] <varis2> bouma: 10 year old computers probably don't have the bus types required by modern ssd/hdd, which would otherwise increase swap performance quite a bit
[10:56] <rajenfcy> Dr. Willis: Thanks Dr. Willis. I tried that also. Today I tested HDD at two other machines and in an external USB drive using USB and later ethernet connections. It did not work.
[10:56] <coz_> rajenfcy,  are these files important or yyou are just concerned about them?
[10:56] <Dr_Willis> rajenfcy:  so.. whats the actual question/problem thjen? its dead... and...
[10:57] <Dr_Willis> take it apart. get some really really strong fridge magnets.. and some shiney mirrors. :)
[10:58] <coz_> rajenfcy,  if you are worried about the content on the drive and not the need to recover them..  use the platters for  a mobile..the platter separators as finger rings and the aluminum case can be taken to the junk yard and you will get about $1.00  for it :)
[10:59] <rajenfcy> Coz: files are important for my teaching and research related works. Its not their security but their utility. I have to redo many things.
[10:59] <Dr_Willis> rajenfcy:  so you WANT to recover the files.. you are saying?
[11:00] <coz_> rajenfcy,  ah ok... that is going to be an issue then,,, if it does get recognized via external u sb  connection... I dont have a solution..i know there are devices that can take the platters and read the content but I dont know of anyone in my area that owns one of them
[11:00]  * varis2 wonders if saying "halt" in init is a clean way to exit...
[11:00] <Dr_Willis> theres comercial data revovery serices also.
[11:00] <varis2> erm, saying exit
[11:00] <Dr_Willis> but those can be big $$
[11:00] <varis2> a clean way to reboot that is
[11:00] <coz_> for sure  Dr_Willis
[11:01] <Dr_Willis> varis2:  or the reboot command?
[11:01] <WaltherFI> Hello folks, what was the natty channel again?
[11:01] <atlef> ubuntu+1
[11:01] <WaltherFI> thankyou
[11:02] <coz_> rajenfcy,  when you get through this... keep in mind that if you are not ready to reinstall at an given moment,, its likely you didnt back up important information,,  I have been t hrough situations like this... painful at best
[11:02] <varis2> dr_willis: well none of those did anything .. I hope it synced :_)
[11:02] <rajenfcy> Dr. Willis: Yes recovering the data is my major concern. If there could be some way out. Thanks
[11:02] <Dr_Willis> rajenfcy:  comercial data recovery services.. and in teh future buy a few spare hd's for backup.. and online data backup services...
[11:03] <sporedi> there are 3 nic 1st is 3com = eth0 (100mb) 2nd id realtek =eth1 (100mb) 3rd is intel= eth3 giga (1000mb),
[11:03] <sporedi> i want change intel card to be assign as a eth0
[11:03] <Dr_Willis> 'a hard drive can die at ANY time' data wrth keepng is worth backingup.
[11:03] <coz_> just call me chopped liver :)
[11:03] <ljsoftnet> how can i disable window grouping in dockbarx?
[11:03] <Dr_Willis> ljsoftnet:  check the settings? I thinkits in there.
[11:03] <varis2> hm so what happened to his drives?
[11:03] <atlef> rajenfcy: if you can get it detected in an usb enclosure, there is photorec/testdisk program that can help
[11:03] <varis2> not just lost partition table?
[11:03] <Dr_Willis> ljsoftnet:  its also possible its a feature in newer versions of dockbarx.
[11:03] <sporedi> how do i chage nic id
[11:04] <ljsoftnet> Dr_Willis how do i do it?
[11:04] <Dr_Willis> ljsoftnet:  right click on the thang. chck its menus.  check its homepage/docs also..
[11:04] <Dr_Willis> !info dockbarx
[11:08] <van7hu> gnullib vs gnu C lib?
[11:08] <benzaldehyde> Dr_Willis: dogh mow are E got tow
[11:08] <benzaldehyde> *dough
[11:08] <benzaldehyde> mister ubottu
[11:09] <nixjr> i vaguely recall reading something about html5 and browsers passing the load onto the gpu not the cpu, does anyone know the same of the feature needed by your gfx card to support this?
[11:09] <rajenfcy> Dr. Willis: Yes, I used to back up on CD,s and DVDs but this time it was long pending.
[11:12] <MopperWhite> 请问这是什么状况？http://paste.pocoo.org/show/368396/
[11:12] <Ben64> So I was wgetting a large (8GB) file. I accidentally deleted it without realizing, and now its almost done, but the file is deleted, but still sort of there. Is there any way I can make a hard link to it given the inode number? it's still opened by wget so the inode is easy to find.
[11:13] <Dr_Willis> rajenfcy:  with the cheap cost of online storage these days. Its worth using
[11:14] <bouma> hey, in the alternate installer there are these choices of typical usage of a partition, there is news/standard/large/large4, what is standard ? it says what the others are ? also what is the typical size of file on a fresh system partition? i guess its bigger than news which is one inode per 4k block
[11:14] <Dr_Willis> Ben64:  if you knwo the inode, i think ln can use that info.. but ive not ever tried it.
[11:14] <Ben64> Dr_Willis: i couldn't find anything on the subject in the man page
[11:15] <nixjr> I've answered mny own question with some googling, the graphic card must support Direct3D 10.1 and/or Direct3D 10 Feature Level 9
[11:15] <Dr_Willis> Ben64:  i seem to recall it somewhere in the books i read ages ago. but I may be thinking of some other command.
[11:15] <bouma> btw i found that the first cylinder is the outside of the drive/fastest part, for what its worth.
[11:15] <ks07> hey guys, a while back I backgrounded a continuous loop on my server... just realised it's still running! How would I go about stopping/killing it?
[11:16] <Dr_Willis> ks07:  kill command.
[11:16] <Dr_Willis> ks07:  or 'fg' then kill it..
[11:16] <Dr_Willis> or killall command...
[11:16] <Ben64> Dr_Willis: if you remember, let me know :D google failed me. I have a sort of solution by copying it from /proc/<stuff> to another partition, but i wonder if theres an easier way since it already exists on one drive.
[11:16] <ks07> fg says no such job, its odd
[11:16] <Dr_Willis> ks07:  perhaps you started it in a differnt shell. check the jobs command perhaps.
[11:17] <ks07> nothing coming from jobs either... what did I do?! xD
[11:18] <rajenfcy> Atlef: Thanks for this information let me try photorec/testdisk.
[11:19] <atlef> rajenfcy: good luck
[11:19] <benzaldehyde> Dr_Willis: i was pretty suprised to see my printer didn't need a driver to print, even in windows i need to go to epson and download a driver and a bunch of software. it is one of those print to cd printers and apparently gimp does print to cd so no need for epson print cd software
[11:21] <coe> ma can't used my desktop effect am used lenovo g460
[11:21] <coe> anyide for my problem...
[11:21] <coe> this troble, make me so hard work
[11:21] <benzaldehyde> coe: no idea
[11:22] <coe> Desktop effects could not be enabled
[11:22]  * van7hu is using g450 :)
[11:22] <coe> please help
[11:23] <van7hu> coe: what is your problem, maybe I could help
[11:23] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[11:24] <coe> van7hu, am used ubuntu 10.10 and this my proble Desktop effects could not be enabled < am used lenovo g460>
[11:24] <Deadglow> i was trying to install ubuntu and on the partition resize screen it just freezes.  any way round this?
[11:24] <coe> this problem be for can i solve it, but am not make documentation of it.
[11:24] <coe> please van7hu help me...
[11:25] <ljsoftnet> how do i uninstall dockbarx?
[11:26] <coe> van7hu, am used ubuntu 10.10 and this my proble Desktop effects could not be enabled < am used lenovo g460>
[11:27] <adana1>  hi people, i use redhat enterprise version, i forget my root password, i tried to recovery from console. i change root password. now i can login X window and all commands, when i try pass GUI screen kde and gnome i put my password and username that i changed, but it doesnt login desktop, how can i fix this problem ? none answer in linux and redhat channel this is why i ask this question in this chan.
[11:27] <van7hu> coe try this first: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.10/desktop-effects/C/compiz-configure.html
[11:27] <van7hu> I am using 10.04, so I could not test it
[11:28] <oCean> adana1: it's still offtopic here
[11:28] <coe> van7hu, all my grafich brokend
[11:29] <manitu> hi there.. a friend of mine updated his system and now he can't choose 1280x1024 on one of two screens (he uses KDE, also asked in #kubuntu)
[11:29] <coe> am still can't used my desktop effect couse my vga not support may be...
[11:29] <coe> am used intel vga
[11:29] <zarbula> Do you guys know of a way, if I have two SSH connections to my server, if I want to reconnect to a running application, like irssi how to I switch back into a running terminal application? (does that make sence?)
[11:29] <coe> i think
[11:30] <coe> ikonia, am need you ide, for my ubuntu 10.10 am can't used my desktop effect and am used ubuntu 10.10
[11:30] <ikonia> coe: ?
[11:30] <ikonia> coe: I'm a bit busy at the moment, sorry
[11:31] <adana1>  hi people, i use redhat enterprise version, i forget my root password, i tried to recovery from console. i change root password. now i can login X window and all commands, when i try pass GUI screen kde and gnome i put my password and username that i changed, but it doesnt login desktop, how can i fix this problem ? none answer in linux and redhat channel this is why i ask this question in this chan.
[11:31] <coe> oke ikonia that fine
[11:33] <h4xx0r> .
[11:33] <van7hu> coe: I am sorry, I don't know :), I don't use much graphic
[11:33] <coe> van7hu, that fine thank for you respond me...
[11:34] <coe> h4xx0r, you may be can help me...
[11:34] <staar2> why i cannot not do this sudo cp /var/lib/backuppc/* ~ ?
[11:34] <ljsoftnet> how do i uninstall dockbarx?
[11:34] <patryk_> cze
[11:34] <patryk_> Hello
[11:34] <patryk_> siema
[11:34] <patryk_> jest tu kots?
[11:34] <coe> ljsoftnet, sudo apt-get remove dockbarx
[11:34] <patryk_> ????????????
[11:34] <patryk_> ?
[11:35] <FloodBot3> patryk_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:35] <patryk_> ??
[11:35] <oCean> !pl | patryk_
[11:35] <patryk_> ?
[11:35] <patryk_> ?
[11:35] <patryk_> ?
[11:35] <patryk_> /
[11:35] <patryk_> ?
[11:35] <FloodBot1> patryk_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:35] <FloodBot3> patryk_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:35] <coe> h4xx0r, you are real hacker kekeeke please test my site : www.acehdev.net kekekekek
[11:35] <ikonia> coe: please don't ask for that sort of thing here
[11:36] <h4xx0r> hahahah
[11:36] <h4xx0r> lol
[11:36] <coe> ikonia, oke oke, am so sure see h4xx0r on chanell ikonia
[11:36] <coe> l0l
[11:36] <ikonia> coe: yes, it's just a nickname
[11:36] <bsod1> hi, I have 6gb memory but 32bit ubuntu shows 3gb, is there a way to use all of my memory in 32bit ubuntu or do I have to install 64bit?
[11:37] <ljsoftnet> how do i uninstall dockbarx?
[11:37] <coe> ikonia, sorry am sorry
[11:38] <meisth0th> hello
[11:38] <coe> meisth0th, hello
[11:38] <oCean> !pae | bsod1
[11:38] <coe> !
[11:38] <bsod1> oCean, thanks
[11:38] <meisth0th> if i install natty beta and update when natty is out, will i get stable natty?
[11:39] <atlef> meisth0th: yes
[11:39] <coe> yes
[11:39] <oCean> !final | meisth0th
[11:39] <galerien> hi, witch program would you use to write html / Php ?
[11:39] <meisth0th> thanks
[11:39] <meisth0th> galerien, geany, gedit
[11:40] <meisth0th> i would give geany a try, it's very good
[11:40] <galerien> I hate gedit, I'll try geany (I just want to avoid kate, because of Kde packages)
[11:41] <student3> can sb say how to add panel to ubuntu by terminal?
[11:41] <meisth0th> galerien, there is also another option: komodo edit, which is also free -as in freedom-
[11:41] <meisth0th> galerien, it's not packaged by has a very easy installer and auto-update feature
[11:41] <meisth0th> s/by/but
[11:42] <galerien> komodo, let's see
[11:42] <meisth0th> galerien, not komodo, it has two version with name komodo, komodo edit and komodo ide. komodo edit is the free one
[11:43] <galerien> ok, thanks
[11:44] <userdel> is there any package which will determine root of mobile phones including it's operating system?
[11:44] <meisth0th> you're welcome
[11:44] <ljsoftnet> coe, cannot find package
[11:46] <coe> package what ljsoftnet
[11:46] <userdel> is there any package which will determine root of mobile phones including it's operating system?
[11:47] <ljsoftnet> coe, when i sudo apt-get remove dockbarx, it says cannot find package
[11:47] <galerien> I'll install netbeans instead
[11:50] <coe> ljsoftnet, try google am no ide for that... sorry
[11:50] <ljsoftnet> coe ok
[11:51] <spirals> userdel, what are you trying to accomplish?
[11:51] <userdel> spirals : i want to know os of mobile.
[11:51] <spirals> userdel, what mobile
[11:52] <ljsoftnet> how do i uninstall dockbarx?
[11:53] <userdel> spirals : i have 3-4 mobiles.
[11:53] <spirals> userdel, google their models to find the os?
[11:54] <spirals> userdel, tuxmobil.org is a phone oriented distro, dunno if that's relevant
[11:55] <spirals> userdel, if the phones are on the wireless LAN you could also nmap them and maybe get vendor/OS id that way
[11:55] <userdel> spirals: they are on bluetooth
[11:56] <userdel> spirals:  can i know where they will be mounted if on bluetooth. i just installed kmobiletools
[11:56] <fi8er1> !test
[11:57] <spirals> userdel, not sure for KDE
[11:57] <coe> oke no ide for my problem...
[11:57] <sharkk> hi, do someone knows how to disable a function key on a notebook? i'm too frustrated to try to make it work... damn samsung
[12:02] <coolmego> any GRUB developer????
[12:03] <coolmego> am trying to make graphical boot loader like SUSE...helping hands needed
[12:04] <coolmego> its for ubuntu
[12:04] <coolmego> maverick
[12:04] <ljsoftnet> how do i uninstall dockbarx?
[12:05] <coe> help
[12:05] <coolmego> <ljsoftnet : use google lol
[12:05] <ry> what is an option for cloning a drive in ubuntu (not the system drive sata->usb drive) but not bit for bit, just the used areas -- or can that be done with dd? -- partimage and partclone i've had issues with
[12:05] <coe> am need you help for fix my Desktop effectk
[12:05] <coolmego> coh  : what happened
[12:05] <ljsoftnet> coolmego i already did
[12:06] <coe> yest, not alll problem can solve with google.com kekekeke
[12:07] <coolmego>  ljsoftne: which flavor u using???
[12:07] <anfab> hi all, am new to ubuntu and have to stupidly modified the /etc/environment files on my fresh ubuntu 10.04 install..now i cant login..it just comes back to login screen after entering the password..can anyone please guide me if this can be fixed or not?
[12:08] <JEEB> anfab, can you log in via ctrl+alt+f1 or f2?
[12:08] <JEEB> as in tty1 or tty2
[12:10] <anfab> was not aware of that option..however i tried with gnome failsafe at the botton and tried with recovery mode to modify the environment file again but it din let me
[12:10] <ljsoftnet> how do i uninstall dockbarx?
[12:10] <anfab> am sorry if i sound silly, always been on windows earlier
[12:10] <coolmego> ljsoftnet which distro u using???
[12:11] <ljsoftnet> ubuntu
[12:11] <JEEB> anfab, just log in in a way you can log in (if failsafe works then it, otherwise tty)
[12:11] <ljsoftnet> coolmego i mean xubuntu
[12:11] <bobusumisu> Anyone that can help with a boot-issue that occured after updating 10.10 -> 11.04? I get a message that "hardisk not ready yet, can't load /". ALL tips are welcome.
[12:11] <JEEB> then sudo nano or vim or whatever text editor you use and edit /etc/environment to remove your modifications :P
[12:11] <muneeb> Please help! xsane: error while loading shared libraries: libgimp-2.0.so.0: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32
[12:12] <muneeb> i have another program that requires 32bit libgimp
[12:12] <anfab> JEEb, failsafe does not work..let me try tty..
[12:12] <coolmego> ljsoftnet : if it has its software center in Applications...search foe the package and uninstall it
[12:12] <JEEB> anfab, you _do_ remember what the eff'd up, right?
[12:12] <Syria> Hello, How can I update my current version of gnome to the latest version? Meerkat 10.10
[12:12] <JEEB> s/the/you/
[12:12] <ljsoftnet> coolmego its not in software center
[12:13] <anfab> yes..i remember what i messed up
[12:13] <atlef> ljsoftnet: sudo apt-get remove dockbarx
[12:13] <JEEB> anfab, can you use vim or nano?
[12:13] <JEEB> as in, some command-line text editor?
[12:13] <anfab> yes i can use vim
[12:13] <JEEB> ok
[12:13] <JEEB> then just log in via tty1 if only possible
[12:13] <ljsoftnet> atlef it says ...cannot find package...
[12:14] <anfab> jeeb, okay..feel even more dumb asking this..how do i login via tty1?
[12:14] <coolmego> ljsoftnet did u used terminal???
[12:14] <JEEB> anfab, ctrl+alt+f1 doesn't bring you to a black screen with the login prompt?
[12:14] <ljsoftnet> coolmego yes
[12:14] <coolmego> sudo apt-get remove dockbarx
[12:15] <ljsoftnet> coolmego it says ...cannot find package...
[12:15] <anfab> need to try that..am on windows login now ..let me try that
[12:15] <anfab> thanks jeeb
[12:15] <atlef> ljsoftnet: try sudo apt-get remove DockbarX
[12:16] <ljsoftnet> atlef still the same
[12:16] <Kawohi> Hey can anyone help me install Global Menu http://code.google.com/p/gnome2-globalmenu/wiki/InstallingonUbuntu
[12:16] <krishnasut> Hi all
[12:16] <kleopatra> Can anyone tell me where i should put an .vimrc file? I dont know what path it should have
[12:17] <swatto> Please can someone recommend a good book for learning bash scripting or shall I stick to python scripting?
[12:17] <iceroot> kleopatra: in your home
[12:17] <iceroot> swatto: #bash
[12:17] <atlef> ljsoftnet: try apt-cache search dockbarx, if it is not there, then it is not installed through apt
[12:18] <ljsoftnet> atleft i installed it by ./setup.py
[12:18] <kleopatra> iceroot: simply create a   ~/.vimrc file?
[12:18] <iceroot> kleopatra: yes
[12:18] <kleopatra> iceroot: thx
[12:18] <iceroot> kleopatra: if you dont want a global vimrc
[12:19] <kleopatra> no i dont want to change the /etc/.vimrc
[12:19] <Kawohi> "Open System → Administration → Software Sources and press Third Party Software" I can't find it
[12:19] <atlef> ljsoftnet: look here: http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2009/01/08/there-is-no-setuppy-uninstall/
[12:21] <Syria> @gnome
[12:21] <Syria> !gnome
[12:23] <Benkinooby> hi, might be this is ot but I'll give t a shot: does anyone know if there is ubuntu software for small scale businesses... for keeping control of stock etc.
[12:24] <phonex01> hello guys
[12:24] <phonex01> how can i connect my laptop to TV using S-video port ? im using ubuntu
[12:25] <phonex01> i connected the cable but nothing on the TV
[12:25] <phonex01> !
[12:26] <giraffro> Hey, I have a quick question - Is the update notifier show supposed to show in the notification area when logged in as a desktop user?
[12:28] <manOwl> does anyone here make use of evolution calendar
[12:28] <manOwl> like seriously
[12:28] <manOwl> i'm trying to use it
[12:28] <manOwl> and it's not super intuitive
[12:28] <manOwl> i could use a quick start
[12:29] <giraffro> manOwl: I do. What do you want to know?
[12:29] <manOwl> giraffro: on the right pane I have "tasks"
[12:29] <manOwl> giraffro: how can I designate a block of time to one of those
[12:29] <manOwl> or is that more of a todo
[12:29] <manOwl> should I use appointments for this?
[12:31] <AntiSociaL> hmm
[12:31] <hasnain> i need help to remove permissions in x11vnc please help
[12:32] <hasnain> i cant connect remotely due to permissions
[12:32] <manOwl> hasnain: what error?
[12:32] <JEEB> hmm, the default CJK font in Ubuntu was changed back to a crappy Chinese one (that isn't exactly readable in the terminal) in 10.10 , how can I make it use the older font (used in 9.10 and 10.04 -- and on the Japanese locale in 10.10)?
[12:33] <giraffro> manOwl: I use it as a todo. You can add start and due dates, but it doesn't show up in the calendar.
[12:34] <manOwl> giraffro: where's the new calendar button?
[12:35] <giraffro> It's in the dropdown list to the right of the "New" button
[12:35] <manOwl> ah
[12:36] <manOwl> didn't even see that
[12:36] <manOwl> thanks!
[12:37] <ars3n1c> hey, how would I go about moving just a single user's /home to a new partition? i've found the guides for moving the entire directory (therefore all users), but in my case this needs to be for a single user, hopefully not in a way that will cause any issues installing new software and such. assuming, of course, it's even possible?
[12:37] <giraffro> manOwl: np
[12:37] <extor> I've got some process with a file lock on a partition that I want to unmount, is there a command that can help me find the PID which has that lock so I can kill the PID?
[12:37] <placki4ever> Hello. Can someone help me compile m560x driver for my camera? Make errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/591689/   I've got Lubuntu 10.10
[12:38] <anonops666> boh
[12:38] <swatto> Hello, how do you move the system tray in ubuntu 10.10? atm ive got my Xchat icon, bluetooth and LAN icons at the top but i want them at the bottom and dont appear to be able to move them?
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> extor: try:  lsof | grep something       change 'something' to something like the mount point or somesuch, also make sure your pwd is NOT in the mount point as this will lock it too
[12:39] <extor> yeah pwd isnt in the mount point
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> swatto: right click the item -> unlock item then right click and move
[12:39] <extor> Im trying to think like wtf could be doing this besides a stale ssh session since this box has 66 days uptime
[12:39] <cyril_> Hello, I would like advice about memory required to install ubuntu server 10.04 + apache tomcat with mediawiki / phpBB3 / subversion. I want a test server for developing web apps in java. Is 2Gb of RAM enough for such a test server?
[12:39] <Peddy> in Pidgin, is it possible to get a notification when a buddy signs in?
[12:39] <kun> ？？？
[12:40] <kun> 水在呢阿
[12:40] <extor> yes you can have pidgin do a buddy pounce
[12:40] <rr0hit> Peddy, extor Buddy pounce sends a message to the user, i guess. not provide u a notification
[12:41] <swatto> ActionParsnip: Thankyou :) i dont see the seperators very well because of my theme
[12:41] <hasnain> how to remove permission to connect on x11vnc
[12:42] <hasnain> how to remove permission to connect on x11vnc
[12:43] <apassi> hi, is there a way to install new latest ubuntu from current ubuntu to new partition, without restarting with installation disk etc.
[12:43] <redlin3e> Anyone know what is the maximum core support in ubuntu 10.04?
[12:43] <Peddy> rr0hit, thanks, the libnotify plugin does what I need.
[12:44] <JEEB> redlin3e, whatever the used kernel can support?
[12:44] <rr0hit> Peddy: that gives u a notification for all buddies. not any particular one. right?
[12:44] <BluesKaj> 'Morning
[12:45] <Peddy> rr0hit, yeah, and that's what I needed. Buddy Pounces requires a lot of configuration, but is more powerful I suppose
[12:45] <hasnain> how to remove permission to connect on x11vnc
[12:45] <rr0hit> Peddy: buddy pounce sends the user a message as and when he logs in. its not difficult to configure at all !!
[12:46] <rr0hit> Peddy: but thats not what u want i suppose
[12:46] <hasnain> how to remove permission to connect on x11vnc
[12:46] <ylmfos> hello
[12:46] <redlin3e> JEEB: well then it should be 64 :/ Any idea why i only get 20 cores with HT. Should be 6 cores on each cpu so then it would show 24 cores but only shows 20.
[12:47] <schnoomac> Hello all. I have ubuntu on a VM on my mac system. I have shared a few drives and they all show up in /mnt/hgfs/** i was wondering the proper way to mount them into my home folder. I cant remember the exact correct mount command
[12:47] <anfab> hi
[12:48] <erUSUL> redlin3e: which cpu is this?
[12:48] <Tagah> Salut
[12:48] <Tagah> #ubuntu-fr
[12:49] <brandonc503_> so did you all see my password up there?
[12:49] <redlin3e> erUSUL: xeon e5620 2.4 ghz
[12:49] <BluesKaj> schnoomac, this gives write permissions as well, mount -o remount,rw /path/to/drive
[12:49] <benzaldehyde> redlin3e: awesome
[12:50] <brandonc503_> test
[12:50] <pocoyo> brandonc503_: 中国一留学生去美国打工的当过报童，不带计算器，习惯动作抬头望天时心算找零。顾客大为惊讶，纷纷掏出计算器验证，皆无误，也抬头望天，惊恐问：云计算？ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?f=95&t=267605 :-)
[12:50] <schnoomac> BluesKaj: You are not telling it where to mount to though
[12:50] <erUSUL> redlin3e: 8 cores on each cpu ( 4 * 2 ) according to docs.
[12:51] <anfab> am new to ubuntu and am trying to get jdk installed but facing issues..on synaptic package manager i get this error " Depends: sun-java6-bin but it is not going to be installed" on terminal when i try i get "sun-java6-jdk: Depends: sun-java6-bin (>= 6.24-1build0.10.04.1) but it is not going to be installed "
[12:51] <schnoomac> damn internet.... Yeah and idea how to BluesKaj
[12:51] <anfab> please helo
[12:51] <anfab> help*
[12:52] <erUSUL> !java | anfab
[12:53] <anfab> ubottu : thanks..let me try that
[12:53] <benzaldehyde> domo arigato mister ubottu
[12:53] <redlin3e> erUSUL: oh, i thought it was 6 cores on each cpu. But then it should be 8 threads on each cpu and should show 16 cores in ubu but shows 20 :)
[12:53] <rushabhtechie55> help needed on ubuntu..
[12:53] <rushabhtechie55> where to go?
[12:54] <BluesKaj> schnoomac, sudo mount -t filesstem -o force /dev/sdaX /mnt
[12:54] <benzaldehyde> rushabhtechie55: here, the forums, the main site, take your pick
[12:54] <anfab> it throws this error.."sun-java6-plugin: Depends: sun-java6-bin (>= 6.24-1build0.10.04.1) but it is not going to be installed "
[12:54] <atlef> !ask | rushabhtechie55
[12:54] <rushabhtechie55> ohk...cool thanks
[12:54] <rushabhtechie55> allright
[12:55] <Looksvivek> hello
[12:57] <ljsoftnet> when i "sudo cat files.txt | xargs rm -rf" why doesn't it get deleted, it says "Permission Denied"
[12:57] <anfab> ubottu : getting an error..http://pastebin.com/2tJMFr9r
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> ljsoftnet: does sudo transcend the pipe?
[12:57] <benzaldehyde> anfab: deb http://archive.canonical.com/ lucid partner
[12:57] <derango> hey people, can someone give me a hand in disabling x in startup?
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> derango: add the boot option:  text
[12:58] <benzaldehyde> anfab: for /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:58] <ljsoftnet> ActionParsnip i didn't get what you said
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> ljsoftnet: could cover all by running: sudo -i    then run your command
[12:58] <anfab> benzaldehyde : did that..still getting the errro
[12:58] <anfab> error*
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> ljsoftnet: for example:  cat "text" > /usr/bin/file   will NOT work, sudo does not transcend the > character, the correct way is:  cat "text" | sudo tess /usr/bin/file
[12:59] <benzaldehyde> ljsoftnet: probably because you do not have sudo in the wrong spot
[12:59] <benzaldehyde> *do
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> ljsoftnet: this puts sudo on the left side of the operator, do you know if pipes need similar treatment??
[12:59] <benzaldehyde> ljsoftnet: try it on the other side of |
[12:59] <Z0f> Hi all - I already have ubuntu installed, and use LUKS full disk encryption - I want to install backtrack linux (dual boot) ; can this be done without reinstalling ubuntu?
[12:59] <derango> ActionParsnip could you give me some guides for that? which file do I have to modify?
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> derango: /etc/default/grub    add it in the quotes with:   quiet splash    save the new file and run: sudo update-grub    you could have found that with some very basic websearches....
[13:00] <derango> ActionParsnip thanks
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> derango: if you try and websearch a little based on the directio rather than immediately asking, you will learn your OS faster :D
[13:01] <derango> ActionParsnip I did
[13:02] <apassi> anyone? is there a ubuntu installer in ubuntu?
[13:02] <DavidJonas> anyone with experience on installing ipmitool on 10.10 Server Edition and getting it work properly?
[13:03] <anfab> please help me install jdk on ubuntu 10.04 am getting http://pastebin.com/2tJMFr9r when i use the cmd line.. and error while doing it throug the synaptic manager as well..i have updated the repositories as well
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> apassi: how do you mean?
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> anfab: is that after adding the partner repo?
[13:04] <apassi> ActionParsnip: i have a ubuntu, where i like to run this installer, which install newer version to other partition
[13:04] <anfab> ActionParsnip: yes
[13:04] <cykonax> кря всем=)
[13:04] <dr0id> can someone explain me what this is exactly -> http://pastie.org/private/bcsbx4uoeytcxlwr8pw ?
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> apassi: I believe you will need to boot to an install CD
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> anfab: I suggest you log a bug then
[13:05] <dr0id> hi ActionParsnip
[13:05] <cykonax> Hello. Who speak russian?
[13:05] <jrib> !ru | cykonax
[13:05] <ljsoftnet> ActionParsnip it worked it deleted dockbarx
[13:05] <dr0id> !ru | dr0id
[13:05] <anfab> ActionParsnip : i am new to ubuntu and linux ..am just not sure if am doing something wrong or it is a bug
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> dr0id: you just connected to an SSH server, the text you see is you accepting the key used to encrypt your future sessions with as far as I'm aware
[13:05] <jrib> DavidJonas: you should just tell us your question/problem
[13:06] <apassi> ActionParsnip: that is sad..
[13:06] <dr0id> hmm
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> anfab: try:   sudo apt-get -f install
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> apassi: why?
[13:06] <dr0id> ActionParsnip: so there's that key on my PC and on the server that is matched everytime I do anything via SSH to make sure no one is trying to cheat/haxor ?
[13:06] <raylee> hi i have an problem with flash on ubuntu 9.10
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> dr0id: everytime you use that particular server it will use the key you just got. If you connect to other servers you will get the key there too.
[13:07] <anfab> ActionParsnip : done that as well
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> dr0id: it's use to encrypt all the data you send, hence secure-shell
[13:07] <Abhijit> hi
[13:07] <dr0id> ok, thanks
[13:08] <atlef> !flash | raylee
[13:08] <Abhijit> how/where to find mac address? i have to assign it to my laptop and mobile?
[13:08] <raylee> hi i need help with my ubuntu linux please
[13:08] <Abhijit> !details | ray24
[13:08] <Abhijit> raylee, ^^^^
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> anfab: try:   sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-fonts
[13:08] <apassi> ActionParsnip: because there shouldnt be any limits to install latest versio to second partition online
[13:08] <raylee> hi i am have ab
[13:08] <mah454> Hello  ...
[13:08] <dr0id> ...
[13:09] <mah454> I need gnome3 repository .
[13:09] <raylee> hi i have an problem with flash i am using ubuntu 9.10 when i open up my web broswer its keep crashing
[13:09] <ameen> hallo semuanya....
[13:09] <bunower> how to install Grub2 without destroying mbr?
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> apassi: I can't think of an OS you can do that in, technically it should be be possible as the liveCD is just ubuntu running in RAM but I'n not sure it's doable. You could make a VM and install a test ubuntu to a portion of a virtual drive, then try running ubiquity to then install to the other part
[13:10] <dr0id> raylee: upgrade, lol
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> apassi: if it works, do the same on your own PC.
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> raylee: can you give the output of:  uname -a; lsb_release -a; dpkg -l | grep gnash; dpkg -l | grep swf; dpkg -l | grep flash      Thanks
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> raylee: use a pastebin to hold the text
[13:10] <DavidJonas> well. I just got this server to admin... I am an experienced dev but new to admin. I installed ipmitool and it cant find the device. So I think I have to load modules ipmi_devintf and ipmi_si. That means reboot right? I am on remote and 100Km away. If it doesn't boot I have to travel. is there a way to load the modules without a reboot?
[13:10] <ameen> good night for all...
[13:11] <ameen> i am from Indonesia...
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> DavidJonas: sudo modprobe modulename
[13:11] <anfab> ActionParsnip : did that..getting this now..
[13:11] <anfab> http://pastebin.com/9RND0zuw
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> DavidJonas: if you put the module name in /etc/modules   it will be loaded at boot too :)
[13:11] <DavidJonas> ActionParsnip, thanks a lot!
[13:12] <Greenthy> Hi, I'm new to ubuntu/linux and just installed 11.04, however it doesn't look like how the live demo looked (it doesn't have the side bar but a bottem bar) how can i change it ?
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> !natty | Greenthy
[13:12] <Greenthy> k ty
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> DavidJonas: you can remove modules with:  sudo modprobe -r modulename
[13:13] <DavidJonas> ActionParsnip, you're awesome :)
[13:14] <Abhijit> how to find and change mac adress of my laptop running lucid 64 ibt?
[13:14] <Abhijit> bit
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> DavidJonas: thanks 8-) spreading the love
[13:14] <apassi> ActionParsnip: it is possible already in usb cd, i can start a ubuntu from it, and there is this installer program at desktop. There is no need to create VM and play with those, because there is already working installation software, but it is on installed CD, now why it is not distributed with APT?? I have already installed ubuntu distros to own LVM partitions, many years now, and now i like to install 10.10 to its own paritition, from my current 10.04
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> Abhijit: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/change-your-network-card-mac-address-on-ubuntu/
[13:14] <mah454> I need gnome3 repository .
[13:14] <Abhijit> ActionParsnip, thanks
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> mah454: which release do you have?
[13:15] <apassi> ActionParsnip: and i am installing distors to own paritition, because i dont start to play with upgrade, if it mess my settings, i have a hell of job to fix it..
[13:15] <Abhijit> mah454, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/04/gnome-3-released-to-be-available-for-ubuntu-11-04-via-ppa/
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> Abhijit: thats for natty only
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> mah454: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/11/install-vanilla-gnome-3-in-maverick/    is for maverick
[13:15] <Abhijit> okay
[13:15] <Fox`> when you click on a website link linking to a virus, your antivirus alerts you before you actually download it. what is the antivirus actually scanning; headers?
[13:16] <jrib> Fox`: not an ubuntu question
[13:16] <Abhijit> !ot | Fox`
[13:16] <mah454> tnx :)
[13:16] <Fox`> i don't believe there's an antivirus channel
[13:16] <bouma> giday does anyone know why during install (w/ alternate cd) it says its downloading some updated packages yet once installed it needs many updates?? why cant it be fullying uptodate on first boot? it would be more secure!
[13:16] <jrib> Fox`: not sure how that's relevant...
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> bouma: i'd say it was of the same security
[13:17] <Fox`> why does it matter? it's not that busy in here
[13:18] <bunower> How to install Grub2 without destroying MBR? Cause i have windows and MacOS, and one Partition with Linux but Windows owerrite MBR, now i want to reinstall GRUB 2, i wanna boot all 3 OS
[13:19] <dusf> notes i leave on dirs' properties using nautilus are not saving, how can one remedy this?
[13:19] <dusf> there is no apparent save button...
[13:19] <Gatuno> hello
[13:19] <bouma> bart! ActionParsnip drops some bs and leaves, sigh. its clearly insecure to install with many security updates needed
[13:20] <suigeneris> !find mail
[13:20] <Gatuno> I'm having some troubles getting my Ubuntu USB HDD to boot properly
[13:20] <Gatuno> can someone help me with that?
[13:20] <bunower> no one?
[13:21] <Abhijit> Gatuno, whats the error?
[13:21] <Elvisnake> I don't yet use HDD
[13:22] <awaad> Why Ubuntu will remove GNOME in the new releases ??????
[13:22] <Gatuno> The thing is, On my computer where the external is the only HDD, it is given the (hd0) mapping, but on other pc's its given numbers like (fd0), (hd1) or(hd2)
[13:23] <Gatuno> rendering grub unable to find the following stages
[13:23] <bunower> How to install Grub2 without destroying MBR? Cause i have windows and MacOS, and one Partition with Linux but Windows owerrite Grub 2, now i want to reinstall GRUB 2, i have installed rEFIt too
[13:24] <Ben64> bunower: you can't have two bootloaders in the mbr
[13:24] <bunower> because of that i installed Grub 2 to a partiton
[13:24] <Ben64> that should work
[13:24] <bunower> but now when i start ubuntu i get blacksreen and a white cursor
[13:25] <Ben64> well i don't know much about refit, but that is probably the problem
[13:26] <Gatuno> any ideas?
[13:26] <bunower> but without rEFIt i cant boot windows and MacOs
[13:27] <Ben64> you might be able to get it to boot linux directly
[13:27] <Ben64> again, not sure how it works
[13:28] <suigeneris> I use echo "test message"|mail -s "subject" bob@example.net on the command line but bob@example.net doesn't receive it and the e-mails ends up in the sender's inbox. any ideas?
[13:31] <ferrer3> hi. how to reduce brightness on sony vaio desktop @ ubuntu?
[13:32] <dusf> notes i leave on dirs' properties using nautilus are not saving, how can one remedy this? there is no apparent save button.
[13:32] <bullgard4>  /var/log.boot.log reports: "Starting mDNS/DNS-SD daemon" but System Monitor does not show such a daemon. How come?
[13:34] <becky> hi all, ubuntu on dell mini 10v....resolution used to be 1024x600 but something happened..now i get edid error and screen is 1024x768...no xorg.conf to edit in 10.10....any suggestions
[13:37] <Gatuno> Ubuntu on USB HDD... boot fine on a machine without internal HDD, fails to boot on any other machine
[13:37] <l333jie> what's this?
[13:38] <improveupon> hello. i feel like this question should be really easy... i upgraded to ubuntu 10.o4 kernel version 2.6.32-30 and now NetworkManager and nm-tool are not showing wlan0, only the wired connection. however, i tried to reinstall the driver for the wireless adapter from the live cd and they are showing already installed
[13:38] <improveupon> do i need to add the driver to the new kernel version in some way
[13:38] <zee313> how to install multi-language keyboard in ubuntu?
[13:38] <Abhijit> hi
[13:39] <Abhijit> the mac address allocated by ubuntu to eth0 and wlan 0, is it safe enouth to keep as it is? or is it recommended to change to custome?
[13:39] <Abhijit> help
[13:39] <Abhijit> !ibus | zee313
[13:39] <histo> Abhijit: the mac address is set on the card not by ubuntu
[13:40] <histo> Abhijit: do you mean the ip address?
[13:40] <Abhijit> histo, i see. no i mean mac address
[13:40] <bob__407> becky: are you getting any help?
[13:40] <histo> Abhijit: ?
[13:40] <improveupon> you can change the mac address other machines see
[13:40] <becky> improveupon i have had similar issue in the past....try googling as I cant remember steps to solve....but i think it had something to do with adding notifications area back or something
[13:40] <Abhijit> histo, so my mac address for my wlan and eth comes assigned from the manufacturer?
[13:40] <becky> bob_407 no one yet
[13:40] <histo> Abhijit: mac addresses are hard coded into the cards by the manufacturer
[13:40] <shuai> hello everyone
[13:40] <shuai> good
[13:40] <histo> Abhijit: yes
[13:40] <Abhijit> histo, okay. thanks.
[13:41] <mah454>  I have problem for Opening launchpad.net with firefox in ubuntu-10.10 .
[13:41] <mah454> receive this message : " I have problem for Opening launchpad.net with firefox in ubuntu-10.10 ."
[13:41] <becky> bob_407 i believe that if i had an xorg.conf with the right info for my screen 1024x600 would show up on list
[13:41] <histo> Abhijit: what are you trying to do?
[13:41] <bob__407> becky: try system/admin searching for drivers and see if it recommends a video driver for your system
[13:41] <histo> Abhijit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAC_address
[13:41] <histo> Abhijit: the ip address is different
[13:41] <mah454> receive this message : "The connection was interrupted "
[13:42] <improveupon> becky: google "ubuntu 10.04 networkmanager add notifications area" then?
[13:42] <becky> bob_407 i have done that....no drivers....problem is that edid doesnt send all info or is corrupted
[13:42] <mah454>  I have problem for Opening launchpad.net with firefox in ubuntu-10.10 .
[13:42] <mah454> receive this message : "The connection was interrupted "
[13:42] <improveupon> nm
[13:42] <Abhijit> histo, i was just want to know that the default mac address assigned by manufature is enoush secure? because if we get combination permutation then there will be limited number of addresses? (as we end with ip address) so then it may happen that two or more devices may have same mac addresses?
[13:42] <Abhijit> histo, i know
[13:42] <becky> improveupon yes, maybe "lost network manager icon ubuntu 10.10 upgrade"
[13:43] <Abhijit> histo, i am not talking about ip i am talking about mac
[13:43] <histo> Abhijit: it doesn't matter in that regard
[13:43] <improveupon> it wasn't the maverick upgrade, just a kernel version
[13:43] <bob__407> becky: sorry that is all I know as I did that for my nvidea - I am not an expert, just a user
[13:43] <histo> Abhijit: unless you have trillions of network devices all on the same network
[13:43] <becky> ok thanks bob_407
[13:43] <improveupon> also, it isn't just the notifications area. nm-tool is not seeing the wireless adapter at all, only the nic
[13:43] <Abhijit> histo, okay
[13:44] <histo> Abhijit: your mac address isn't sent out over the net. The routers is
[13:44] <Gatuno> Can someone help me?
[13:44] <histo> Abhijit: then the router redirects the traffic when it gets back
[13:44] <Abhijit> histo, ok
[13:44] <Abhijit> yeah
[13:44] <becky> improveupon have u run hardware drivers while connected via wired ethernet
[13:45] <histo> Abhijit: 2 to the 48th power mac address availible
[13:45] <improveupon> no but synaptic says the driver for the wireless adapter is installed
[13:45] <Abhijit> histo, yeah
[13:45] <bunower> hi: i need help, to install Grub 2 without destroying MBR, because i am using, MacOS and windows
[13:45] <improveupon> bcmwl it's called
[13:46] <becky> try hardware drivers....also what kind of pc
[13:46] <improveupon> the pc is a dell laptop with an internal wireless adapter
[13:47] <schnoomac> Is there a different way of installing lamp-server in 10.10 seeing as tasksel isnt installed by default anymore
[13:47] <improveupon> i'm on the same one now but using windows
[13:47] <becky> so using sta broadcomm driver? or bw?
[13:47] <improveupon> sta
[13:47] <improveupon> yes
[13:47] <jfabrizio> !list
[13:47] <os4> hi
[13:48] <becky> i would try to stop using the driver....then logout back in and then reinstall from hardware drivers...
[13:48] <os4> please someone tell me how to change a login screen  for ubuntu 10.10 ??
[13:48] <improveupon> so go into synaptic, uninstall the package, reinstall it, and reboot?
[13:49] <Abhijit> os4, get ubuntu tweat - easy gui way
[13:50] <os4> ok will try
[13:50] <improveupon> i will try that but something tells me it won't work
[13:51] <jfabrizio> !list
[13:52] <phoenixsampras> when i change the ip address on gnome... it doesnt change?? is that a bug?
[13:52] <bonhoffer> after i added a hostname and typed useradd foo i get sudo: unable to resolve hostname, what does this mean?
[13:53] <dusf> notes i leave on dirs' properties using nautilus are not saving, how can one remedy this? there is no apparent save button.
[13:54] <phoenixsampras> BUG!! when i change the ip address on gnome network manager ... it doesnt change??  i do ifconfig eth0 and still the old address
[13:55] <Baron> What if i know others who know me
[13:56] <becky> improveupon, im suggesting from hardware drivers....not synaptic
[13:57] <mah454> I can not open launchpad.net in ubuntu-10.10 ...
[13:57] <mah454> why ?
[13:58] <BluesKaj> phoenixsampras, your gateway/router assigns the IP address,unless you change it in the router page
[14:00] <BluesKaj> phoenixsampras, NM can't change the IP afaik
[14:04] <mah454> can you open https://launchpad.net in firefox ?
[14:07] <phoenixsampras> BUG!! when i change the ip address on gnome network manager ... it doesnt change??  i do ifconfig eth0 and still the old address
[14:09] <iqpi> phoenixsampras: perhaps you have to do it as root
[14:09] <bonhoffer> how do i make bash the default shell for a new user
[14:10] <iqpi> bonhoffer: by adding the option -s /bin/bash
[14:10] <toluene> hi! I'm using ubuntu 10.10 with the kernel 2.6.35-22-server, is it possible the apt-get the kernel source tree that currently running on my server ? I can't find the source using apt-cache search
[14:11] <bonhoffer> iqpi: option to what?
[14:11] <iqpi> to create a user you have to do sudo useradd [options] newuser
[14:11] <iqpi> one of that options is -s to define the default shell
[14:11] <bonhoffer> got it -- so i just created the user
[14:11] <bonhoffer> already
[14:12] <iqpi> then usermod -s /bin/bash user
[14:12] <iqpi> wait one second
[14:12] <DavidJonas> anybody knows how to monitor/alert for hard disk failure in a hardware RAID system for ubuntu? tried megaraid but can't find a version for Ubuntu amd64
[14:13] <iqpi> bonhoffer: i was right, sudo usermod -s /bin/bash user
[14:13] <iqpi> DavidJonas: perhaps with hdparm?
[14:13] <iqpi> have to leave
[14:13] <toluene> I got it the package name is linux-soource
[14:14] <bonhoffer> iqpi: thanks!
[14:14] <iqpi> toluene: go to kernel.org and downloads the sources you want
[14:14] <erUSUL> DavidJonas: maybe the hardware raid maker has a special utility.
[14:15] <PeDor> Hi, gwibber it's duplicate in menu, I couldn't find any solution for it in foruns or launchpad, I'm using ubuntu maverick
[14:15] <toluene> iqpi, I think ubuntu have patched the kernel. That is the thing I want.
[14:17] <erUSUL> toluene: sudo apt-get install linux-source ?
[14:17] <erUSUL> !info linux-source
[14:17] <toluene> ubottu, thanks!
[14:18] <DavidJonas> iqpi, hdparm seems to only check the devices on the OS which are ok even if a hard drive fails
[14:18] <xtv> hi.. can someone tell me in ubuntu 1104 the binary packages i686 are built with which compilerflags.. -march -mtune -O?
[14:18] <alqaysar> hey
[14:21] <DavidJonas> erUSUL, the hardware maker has megacli on their site. anybody running it on Ubuntu amd64?
[14:21] <LarsTorben> #linuxsnowlinux
[14:21] <erUSUL> DavidJonas: not me, sorry.
[14:21] <DavidJonas> erUSUL, thanks anyway :)
[14:24] <achillion> So here's the thing. My screen wont dim automatically (i.e., by setting dim screen when on battery, or when idle). It DOES dim when I use my laptop's brightness controls (Fn+up/dn), however, the brightness popup doens't appear, as it does for volume. It used to be fine on Fedora, before I switched to Ubuntu. Any ideas? (Laptop: Lenovo Y560)
[14:24] <damno> f
[14:28] <sudipta> is it safe to install kde 4.6 in ubuntu 10.10 via backport?
[14:28] <mah454> How i can enable ssl in firefox ?
[14:29] <damno> I haven't tried
[14:30] <xtv> su -
[14:30] <erUSUL> mah454: should be already enabled
[14:30] <damno> mah454, look in  Edit>Preferences>advenced>encryption tab
[14:31] <mah454> no ... not enable ..
[14:31] <pooky> can anyone recommend a mpd client that auto populated via last.fm or something?
[14:31] <damno> mah454, look in  Edit>Preferences>advenced>encryption tab
[14:31] <pooky> sorry, that autopopulates playlists
[14:31] <damno> check the check box right to SSL
[14:31] <sudipta> is it safe to install kde 4.6 in ubuntu 10.10 via backport?
[14:32] <BlouBlou> sudipta: safe? anything is safe 100% via backports
[14:33] <sudipta> BlouBlou:r u using it?
[14:33] <VAIO> hay guys, I am having problems configuring my ZTE USB modem for CDMA in ubuntu 10.10 and 11.04 beta1, it works fine in windows, ubuntu does not detect it
[14:33] <BlouBlou> no, I'm not
[14:33] <damno> BlouBlou, what is blackport?
[14:33] <damno> backport
[14:34] <BlouBlou> damno: backports are new software updates, instead of old ones patched
[14:34] <BlouBlou> instead of firefox 3 patched, you would be able to update firefox to firefox 4, but it's not 100% safe
[14:34] <damno> BlouBlou, ooh. but can I switch btwin kde and gnome then ?
[14:35] <BlouBlou> damno: if you have both, yes
[14:36] <sudipta_> is anyone using kde4.6
[14:36] <VAIO> hay guys, I am having problems configuring my ZTE USB modem for CDMA in ubuntu 10.10 and 11.04 beta1, it works fine in windows, ubuntu does not detect it, i think its something wrong with usb mode switch
[14:36] <marcelc> hello, if I wish to install kde, apt-get install kde-full is okay?
[14:36] <iceroot> marcelc: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[14:37] <damno_> BlouBlou,  and choose while login?
[14:37] <sudipta_> is anyone using kde4.6?
[14:37] <marcelc> kubuntu-desktop have some tweak's for speed&custom settings or just customization's as wallpaper, logo?
[14:38] <damno_> btw, gnome3 will be released nxt week
[14:38] <marcelc> damno_, cool! :)
[14:38] <BlouBlou> damno_: Yes, you'll be able to swicht between them in login-screen
[14:38] <damno_> there are prtty hype abt gnome3
[14:39] <marcelc> how can be the console font changed in ubuntu, when you press ctrl+alt+F1/F2,F3?
[14:39] <arand> damno_: It's already out, fyi
[14:39] <damno_> aranr, really?
[14:39] <krux> yep
[14:39] <BlouBlou> marcelc: it will open a fullscreen-terminal
[14:40] <sudipta_> hey ,is anyone using kde4.6?
[14:40] <marcelc> mm
[14:40] <BlouBlou> are called "tty"
[14:40] <damno_> sudipta, try gnome3
[14:40] <damno_> is it out  really?
[14:40] <marcelc> okay, I;ll google later for tty settings
[14:41] <damno_> the scrshots are lookin awesome
[14:42] <marcelc> I saw that ubuntu boot's very diffrent from other distro;s as fedora, slack, gentoo, debian, freebsd etc. I mean, when you boot them usually see a lot of text running on screen, but in ubuntu dektop there are just some dot's blinking. why is that? dose have some connection with init script's?
[14:43] <arand> marcelc: fedora uses a graphical boot as well... It is related to plymouth
[14:43] <damno_> marcelc, they want to make it seem less forrible to casual users :)
[14:43] <MonkeyDust> marcelc: it's called a graphic startup screen, gdm
[14:43] <damno_> horrible
i will but right now i'm thinking kde to give a try
[14:44] <marcelc> hmmm plymouth
and it sounds promising this time
[14:44] <damno_> for me kde in kubantu was too slow :(
[14:44] <BlouBlou> damno_: you're right
that's why i want to know the review
[14:45] <damno_> no ubuntu build :(  http://www.gnome3.org/tryit.html
[14:45] <elprado> ciao
[14:45] <elprado> qualche italiano?
r u using kde 4.6?
[14:45] <BlouBlou> !it | elprado
[14:45] <damno_> sudipta_,  no
[14:46] <damno_> BlouBlou,  can suse build be of gnome3 used in ubuntu?  m feeling neg. :(
i herad its faster than the prev. version
[14:46] <BlouBlou> damno_: No idea about suse
[14:47] <snowrichard> suse is rpm based distro
[14:47] <LarsTorben> okay can somebody say me how to join channels
[14:47] <BlouBlou> LarsTorben: /join <#channel>
[14:47] <nyuszika7h> Hi! I've got an SRS Premium Sound program for my ASUS K50AF series laptop, but it's only compatible with Windows. Is there any way to get something similiar on Ubuntu? (Yes, I've installed the sound drivers.)
[14:48] <LarsTorben> : /join <#linuxsnowlinux>
[14:48] <damno_> bloublou, look here:  http://www.gnome3.org/tryit.html
[14:48] <daicazzo> guys, i've tried everything i read on ubuntu forums and so, but jockey still say that driver for my nvidia 8600 is installed but not in use
[14:48] <arand> damno_: The way to install gnome3 in ubuntu is to run natty, and use a PPA.
[14:48] <LarsTorben> dont work
[14:48] <BlouBlou> at least it supports 32 bit
[14:48] <BlouBlou> damno_: seems fine
[14:48] <damno_> hmm :(
[14:49] <damno_> BlouBlou,  what?
[14:49] <arand> LarsTorben:       /join #channel
[14:49] <LarsTorben> :       /join #snowlinux
[14:49] <BlouBlou> damno_: But I don't have any idea about if it will work in suse or not, as I said, I have any idea about suse
[14:49] <MonkeyDust> LarsTorben: dant forget the slash
[14:49] <MonkeyDust> o
[14:49] <krux> damno_, those are live dvds of opensuse and fedora with gnome 3 built in so you can test it out
[14:49] <daicazzo> someone may help me trying to fix that?
[14:50] <MonkeyDust> daicazzo: what is 'that'?
[14:50] <daicazzo> what i wrote up
[14:50] <snowrichard> i tried the fedora 15 with gnome 3 and after it did 512 or so updates the network disappeared
[14:50] <daicazzo> trouble with nvidia 8600
[14:50] <damno_> krux, oh
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> daicazzo: run: sudo apt-get Install nvidia-current; sudo nvidia-xconfig        then reboot to test
[14:50] <MonkeyDust> daicazzo: put everything in one line, so we do not have to scroll back
[14:50] <daicazzo> ActionParsnip, i've done that lot of time
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> daicazzo: does the nvidia-xconfig   not make it fly?
[14:51] <daicazzo> ActionParsnip, but, when I do nvidia-xconfig all i have i the console
[14:51] <LarsTorben> dont work
[14:51] <damno_> krux,  but they read gnome3.iso; not suse
[14:51] <daicazzo> ActionParsnip, no, jockey still say that drivers are installed but not in use
[14:51] <damno_> so I cant upgrade to gnome3 from 10.10?
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> daicazzo: in the console, run:  less /var/log/Xorg.0.log    it will show you what's shaking
[14:52] <krux> yeah that's just what they named those .iso files
[14:52] <daicazzo> i've do that and it say that can't load nvidia module
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> damno_: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/11/install-vanilla-gnome-3-in-maverick/
[14:52] <damno_> I think I'll try out natty
[14:52] <BlouBlou> damno_: you can, but you should wait to 11.04
[14:53] <damno_> vanilla build
[14:53] <snowrichard> 11.04 in beta whats the expected release date?
[14:53] <LarsTorben> hello i have a question
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> LarsTorben: ask away
[14:53] <LarsTorben> 11.04 28. @snowrichard
[14:53] <LarsTorben> well
[14:53] <LarsTorben> I have got a emachines EL 1850
[14:53] <damno_> snowrichard, 11.04 is the date
[14:53] <LarsTorben> Ubuntu 10.10 shows me the PC name !! EL1850 in the installer ubiquity in the host pc name
[14:53] <damno_> i mean 04.11
[14:54] <damno_> bo
[14:54] <damno_> no
[14:54] <damno_> 11.04
[14:54] <FloodBot3> damno_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:54] <damno_> sorry
[14:54] <LarsTorben> Ubuntu 10.10 shows me the PC name !! EL1850 in the installer ubiquity in the host pc name
[14:54] <LarsTorben> Ubuntu 10.04 didnt do
[14:54] <daicazzo> ActionParsnip, this is what log says about nvidia error http://pastebin.com/21RV1XBc
[14:54] <Polah> !repeat | LarsTorben
[14:54] <BlouBlou> LarsTorben: that's surelly because you set it
[14:54] <LarsTorben> i think Ubuntu 10.04 has not got quite the right drivers for my pc
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> LarsTorben: it justsees the system name better than the older version
[14:55] <LarsTorben> ActionsParsnip
[14:55] <LarsTorben> yes and can it be so that the new version is better for the pc
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> daicazzo: you need the rest, to see what caused it to be unloaded
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> LarsTorben: it seeing the system name is quite trivial
[14:55] <LarsTorben> and momentally i have a green Hard drive with 5400 upms/min
[14:55] <sherorox> Hey guys. I found a labtec usb webcam laying around and plugged it into my system (Ubuntu 10.10) Im having a little trouble getting it to work. Help?
[14:55] <damno_> ActionParsnip,  thanks for the link
[14:55] <LarsTorben> is a hard drive with the 7200 better ?
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> LarsTorben: it spins faster, check seek times for the drives is a better comparison
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> sherorox: install and run cheese, do you see yourself/
[14:56] <LarsTorben> ActionParsnip, so i should buy a 7200 hard drive ?
[14:57] <daicazzo> ActionParsnip, this is it http://pastebin.com/jxQBEWYi
[14:57] <damno_> did you gys like the global menu?? I didn't like it from the vdos I saw
[14:57] <LarsTorben> damno_ yes
[14:57] <Da|Mummy> 卐
[14:57] <Da|Mummy> that is all
[14:57] <LarsTorben> ActionParsnip, so i should buy a 7200 hard drive ?
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> damno_: it's ok
[14:58] <sherorox> actionparnsip: source?
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> LarsTorben: usually they are faster but check the seek time to compare if it will help
[14:58] <LarsTorben> ok
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> sherorox: use software centre.....
[14:58] <suprb> May I ask a Noob question?
[14:58] <LarsTorben> yes suprb:
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> suprb: ask away
[14:58] <sherorox> k nvm
[14:58] <suprb> How do you update to gnome3?
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> sherorox: its a package in the repos, you can install it with software centre. What is there to 'nvm' about...
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> suprb: what release are you using?
[14:59] <sherorox> the code. i just installed it
[14:59] <daicazzo> suprb, use gnome3 team ppa on a natty install
[14:59] <suprb> 2.3
[14:59] <sherorox> i mean from software centre
[14:59] <chris__> hello everyone, I have a problem with my ubuntu 10.04.  Yesterday morning everything was wonderful.  I did some auto updates and turned the computer off.  Later in the day, I turned my computer back on and GNOME no longer works.  It loads up but I cannot do anything in it.  KDE works find though and Im using that now.
[14:59] <Daniel0108> suprb: do you use 10.04, 10.10 or 11.04?
[14:59] <Da|Mummy> 卐
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> sherorox: easy stuff huh
[14:59] <suprb> 10.10
[14:59] <oCean> !ops | Da|Mummy
[14:59] <sherorox> srry man
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> suprb: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/11/install-vanilla-gnome-3-in-maverick/
[14:59] <daicazzo> suprb, no way on 10.10
[14:59] <damno_> suprb , its not so safe yet
[14:59] <suprb> o
[15:00] <suprb> so i need to go to 11.04
[15:00] <White-Horse> After I installed the ATI Driver and messed around whit some scripts and editing of some config files my shutdown and startup screen is still really messed up any help please on this
[15:00] <Daniel0108> suprb: no, you don't have to, I know how to install on 10.10
[15:00] <BlouBlou> oCean: why did you do it?
[15:00] <Daniel0108> I'm currently running gnome3 on 10.10!
[15:00] <arand> suprb: In general, ubuntu does not focus on using gnome3
[15:00] <damno_> Diacazzo, look here : http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/11/install-vanilla-gnome-3-in-maverick/
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> suprb: its not in natty, it needs a ppa
[15:00] <suprb> is it worth it?
[15:00] <Daniel0108> suprb: it works on 10.10 :)
[15:00] <arand> suprb: It is possible with a bit of poking though
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> suprb: its not stable yet, if you want to try it you can
[15:00] <White-Horse> very nice to see you ActionParsnip :)
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> White-Horse: howdy
[15:01] <mrdeb> Daniel0108: is it good
[15:01] <Daniel0108> mrdeb: yes, I really like it and it's stable for me
[15:01] <mrdeb> cool
[15:01] <daicazzo> damno_, uh, ok sorry suprb, I know only gnome 3 ppa for natty
[15:01] <suprb> daniel0108: how do you do it?
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> sherorox: do you see yourself in cheese?
[15:01] <Daniel0108> suprb: I show you :)
[15:01] <damno__> my network !!
[15:01] <suprb> np
[15:01] <sherorox> actionparnsip: ya it works ty. ill try it in the browser now
[15:01] <chris__> how do I repair gnome?
[15:01] <Daniel0108> suprb: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-desktop/gnome3-builds && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop3
[15:01] <damno__> Daniel, gnome3?
[15:01] <daicazzo> ActionParsnip, have you take a look to my log? have you any idea?
[15:02] <mrdeb> cool
[15:02] <Daniel0108> damno__: yes, it got released yesterday
[15:02] <LarsTorben> can i have gnome 3 or Unity under Ubuntu 10.04
[15:02] <White-Horse> os[Linux 2.6.35-28-generic x86_64] distro[Ubuntu "maverick" 10.10] cpu[3 x AMD Phenom(tm) II N850 Triple-Core Processor (AuthenticAMD) @ 800MHz] mem[Physical: 5.6GB, 90.6% free] disk[Total: 1.3TB, 94.4% free] video[ATI Technologies Inc M880G [Mobility Radeon HD 4200]] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA ATI SB1: HDA-Intel - HDA ATI HDMI]
[15:02] <Daniel0108> LarsTorben: yes, try: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-desktop/gnome3-builds
[15:02] <Daniel0108> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop3
[15:02] <LarsTorben> ok
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> LarsTorben: http://techienotes.info/2010/09/05/install-gnome-3-on-ubuntu-lucid/
[15:02] <LarsTorben> can i remove it later maybe if it isnt good ?
[15:02] <damno__> Daniel, ya..but is it stable>?
[15:03] <bob__678> I tried natty with that gnome but wiped the disk and reinstalled 10.10 - if I wanted a full desktop I would have stayed with windows
[15:03] <suprb> ok
[15:03] <damno__> yet?
[15:03] <Daniel0108> LarsTorben: yes, with ppa purge
[15:03] <ari__> Hi! does anyone know why establishing a VPN connection (pptp) is blocking all traffic in Ubuntu 10.10, Lenovo T400?
[15:03] <Daniel0108> damno__: for me, yes
[15:03] <Visuex> damno__, it is not officially stable
[15:03] <suprb> im gonna try it
[15:03] <suprb> ty daniel0108
[15:03] <LarsTorben> and how can i test unity
[15:03] <LarsTorben> under ubuntu 10.04
[15:03] <Visuex> it is for the most part stable but they have notices around it saying that it isnt 100% tested
[15:03] <popey> LarsTorben: in a VM
[15:03] <Daniel0108> LarsTorben: netbook edition uses unity
[15:04] <bob__678> suprb: natty worked for me but I hated it
[15:04] <damno__> I need to get back my wired net bfore gtting gnome3
[15:04] <damno__> currently on a 2.5g gprs conn :(
[15:04] <mrdeb> yes 11.04 is not stable
[15:04] <mrdeb> but gnome 3 is stable?
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> daicazzo: you are using natty,which isn't supported here yet
[15:04] <LarsTorben> how can i test unity
[15:04] <LarsTorben> under 10.04
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> mrdeb: officially, no
[15:05] <mrdeb> live usb
[15:05] <daicazzo> ActionParsnip, it's the same with maverick
[15:05] <daicazzo> ActionParsnip, same things, same errors
[15:05] <Daniel0108> LarsTorben: virtual machine, live usb/dvd/cd, netbook edition
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> daicazzo: your release isn't supported here, ask in #ubuntu+1
[15:05] <daicazzo> ActionParsnip, ah, ok
[15:05] <LarsTorben> no without formatting
[15:05] <maxud> Hi guys, i just installed LAMPP, how to create DATABASE in LAMPP? When I was on windows i just opened phpmyadmin, but on linux it is different :(
[15:05] <chris__> ok so, yesterday everything is wonderful.  I do some auto updates in ubuntu 10.04. I turn off the computer and later when I turn it back on... GNOME no longer works correctly! KDE is good.. How do I repair gnome?
[15:05] <LarsTorben> can i type : apt-get install unity ??
[15:05] <Oldgram> hello! I'm using windows and I downloaded ubuntu (file: ubuntu-10.10-desktop-i386.iso) and I want to create a USB installation. I extracted the file and ran usb-creator.exe but I'm unable to choose the "Source disk image" - I click the "other" button, choose ubuntu-10.10-desktop-i386.iso"ubuntu-10.10-desktop-i386.iso", click "open", but nothing adds to the list. What should I do? thanks! :=)
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> !info unity unity
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> hmm
[15:06] <oCean> maxud: what is different? You also installed php-myadmin?
[15:06] <damno__> Daniel, did you get it through the ppa they released ?
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> LarsTorben: http://digitizor.com/2010/05/10/how-to-install-unity-in-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx/
[15:06] <DavidJonas> anybody using openManage from Dell? Can it be used to manage LSI hardware RAID controllers?
[15:06] <LarsTorben> !info unity lucid
[15:06] <maxud> ohh.. so apt-get install php-myadmin, but it will install to LAMPP dir automatically?
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> LarsTorben: I simply websearched and found that guide
[15:06] <LarsTorben> !info lucidc unity
[15:07] <LarsTorben> !info lucidcunity
[15:07] <damno__> I'm thinking of trying !#
[15:07] <LarsTorben> !info unity lycid
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> LarsTorben: use the link I gave
[15:07] <LarsTorben> !info unity lucid
[15:07] <damno__> anybdy use it here?
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> damno__: thats offtopic here
[15:07] <damno__> anybdy use #! here?
[15:07] <damno__> ok
[15:07] <ysk> hi... i changed myusename password and i forget it i was drunk... how can i retrieve it i cant update my ubuntu lucid now
[15:07] <oCean> maxud: it defaults to /usr/share/phpmyadmin I think
[15:07] <sherorox> actionparsnip: camera doesnt work in anything other than cheese?
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> sherorox: but it does work in cheese?
[15:08] <sherorox> yes
[15:08] <ysk> hi... i changed myusename password and i forget it i was drunk... how can i retrieve it i cant update my ubuntu lucid now
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> sherorox: cool, thats a good sign
[15:08] <LarsTorben> mh
[15:08] <ysk> can anyone help me plz
[15:08] <sherorox> webcam vs flash?
[15:08] <damno__> ysk :D
[15:08] <White-Horse> so does anyone here know how i can fix the low screen res that  happens after installing the ati driver ?
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> ysk: boot to root recovery mode and run:  passwd foo      change foo for your username, then reboot by running: reboot
[15:09] <coz_> ysk,   http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-recover-password-under-ubuntu.html
[15:09] <maxud> is there any difference where to install in lampp dir or anywhere else? :)
[15:09] <ysk> thanks mate
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> sherorox: thats all I know dude, I don't use webcams. I think they are creepy
[15:09] <oCean> maxud: what?
[15:09] <Oldgram> my message went a bit up the chat ;-) do you have any idea why can't I create a usb installation?
[15:09] <sherorox> haha thats fine thnx anyways
[15:09] <mrdeb> ysk: you should only operate ubuntu when sober
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> White-Horse: you may need an xorg.conf file if udev isn't picking stuff up
[15:09] <damno__> ActionParsnip,  what does nomodset really do?
[15:09] <ysk> hehe
[15:10] <ysk> yeah i get a lesson now
[15:10] <bob__678> how do you boot in recovery mode in an all ubunto system - there are no prompts on boot?
[15:10] <ysk> :)
[15:10] <maxud> should i install it to opt/lampp or no matter?
[15:10] <MonkeyDust> bob__678: it's in the grub
[15:10] <coz_> bob__678,  when booting  hold the left shift key down to get to the grub menu
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> damno__: http://forum.nginx.org/read.php?30,92915,92923 may show
[15:10] <maxud> srr i dont know how use msg
[15:10] <oCean> maxud: just let it default to wherever it wants to install
[15:10] <maxud> ok
[15:11] <bob__678> thanks, you 2 and probably more
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> bob__678: it's Ubuntu too, not Ubunto
[15:11] <damno__> somebody asked a seminoob to join his team for building a linux distro :D
[15:11] <White-Horse> actionParsnip how do i do that and is there anything we do in the term. to see whats going on ?
[15:11] <maxud> thanks!
[15:11] <oCean> maxud: after installing phpmyadmin, the software will be in /usr/share/phpmyadmin, but in /etc/apache2/conf.d/phpmyadmin.conf should be an alias to that directory.
[15:11] <Brett3826> I am running ubuntu 10.10 on my server and trying to get torrentflux working. Torrents download fine, but whenever it switches to seeding, no one can connect. I have tried to disable all firewalls, but still not working. Other computers on the same network can seed, UPnP works, but I never see this server create any UPnP ports from the router frontend. Any ideas?
[15:11] <maxud> and how to do that O_o
[15:12] <oCean> maxud: if you install from repos, you have nothing to configure afterwards. It should just work
[15:12] <rodhash> Hello Guys.. what does /dev/dm-0, /dev/dm-1, etc mean when I issue "fdisk -l" on Ubuntu? I believe it doesn't matter the distribution.. anyway, any idea?
[15:12] <maxud> ok :D
[15:12] <oCean> maxud: have you installed LAMP currently?
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> White-Horse: you can run:  sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf   you can find sample files online to try
[15:13] <maxud> i installed lamp not from repos
[15:13] <maxud> or srr i think i misunderstood :)
[15:13] <maxud> you mean just now?
[15:14] <oCean> maxud: you can use "tasksel" to install all required packages for a LAMP server
[15:14] <maxud> oh ok
[15:14] <maxud> so tasksel phpmyadmin?
[15:14] <oCean> maxud: 'sudo tasksel install lamp-server' will do
[15:14] <maxud> oh ok :)
[15:14] <maxud> thanks a lot!
[15:14] <chris__> ok so, yesterday everything is wonderful.  I do some auto updates in ubuntu 10.04. I turn off the computer and later when I turn it back on... GNOME no longer works correctly! KDE is good.. How do I repair gnome?
[15:14] <White-Horse> ActionParsnip thank you i will work on this and come back later cause now i have to undo everything i did from what i found on google
[15:15] <LarsTorben> sudo apt-get remove gnome sudo apt-get install gnome @ chris__
[15:15] <damno__> OpenOff  is  too buggy
[15:15] <LarsTorben> hi damno_
[15:15] <White-Horse> if i can even find the same pages again lol
[15:15] <BajK> lol what happens if you don't update your machine since november? 530 packages will be upgraded :D (it's my mom's old machine which I now use as media center in my living room)
[15:15] <chris__> larstorben ok thans Ill try that now
[15:16] <Oldgram> even if I run "usb-creator.exe --iso=ubuntu-10.10-desktop-i386.iso" the list of images is empty. what can I do? thanks!
[15:16] <rodhash> Hello Guys.. what does /dev/dm-0, /dev/dm-1, etc mean when I issue "fdisk -l" on Ubuntu? I believe it doesn't matter the distribution.. anyway, any idea?
[15:16] <chris__> larstorben anything I need to do other than that?
[15:16] <LarsTorben> no
[15:16] <LarsTorben> ;)
[15:16] <damno__> hey lars
[15:16] <phoenixsampras> BUG!! when i change the ip address on gnome network manager ... it doesnt change??  i do ifconfig eth0 and still the old address
[15:16] <erUSUL> rodhash: device mapper devices. the one creted for example when you do software raid or lvm volumes or whole encrypted disks
[15:17] <chris__> larstorben um this is weird it says gnome is not installed on my system? yet it is?
[15:17] <damno__> is libre office bttr anyway than open off?
[15:17] <LarsTorben> damno__ yes
[15:17] <LarsTorben> chris__ yes its really mystery
[15:18] <LarsTorben> try sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop sudo apt-get install desktop
[15:18] <rodhash> erUSUL: Thanks
[15:18] <damno__> LasTorben, what way?
[15:18] <damno__> chris, dont do that!
[15:18] <chris__> dammo im listening
[15:18] <LarsTorben> me 2
[15:19] <LarsTorben> why not
[15:19] <chris__> sudo apt-get gnome install was weird.
[15:19] <damno__> LarsTorben, u crazy?
[15:19] <LarsTorben> it isnt dangerous
[15:19] <damno__> chis, u want to do what?
[15:19] <mrdeb> ubuntu-desktop will remove all programs
[15:19] <marienz> chris__: "gnome" doesn't directly install anything, it just pulls in (depends on) a ton of other packages that together form a complete gnome desktop
[15:19] <chris__> dammo I ran an update in 10.04 recently now gnome doesnt work.
[15:20] <chris__> dammo gnome loads up but I cant do anything in it.
[15:20] <marienz> chris__: if you have most or all of the packages "gnome" depends on installed already you'll have a functional gnome desktop even if "gnome" isn't installed.
[15:20] <chris__> im trying to fix it,
[15:20] <chris__> marien ok how do I fix a broken gnome?
[15:20] <aeon-ltd> damno__: libreoffice and oo are basically the same at this time, in a few months-years you'll see some diffs , but at the mo libreoffice is just debranded oo
[15:20] <marienz> chris__: you'll have to provide more information (LarsTorben seems to be grasping at straws)
[15:20] <damno__> chris, wish I could help you. u better look in ubuntuforums.org
[15:20] <LarsTorben> ubuntu-desktop WILL be installed
[15:20] <LarsTorben> First it will be removed then intsalled gain
[15:20] <LarsTorben> again
[15:20] <LarsTorben> it isnt dangerous !!
[15:21] <marienz> LarsTorben: you typoed your install command (you said "apt-get install desktop")
[15:21] <LarsTorben> no apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[15:21] <damno__> chris, wish I could help you. u better look in ubuntuforums.org
[15:21] <marienz> LarsTorben: also, why do you believe reinstalling just a metapackage will help?
[15:21] <LarsTorben> because this metapackages reinstalls gnome desktop
[15:21] <aeon-ltd> LarsTorben: also you missed out && so it could be one command
[15:21] <LarsTorben> and his gnome-desktop is crashed
[15:21] <chris__> marien 10.04 ubuntu.  Was working great.  I ran the auto update as usual.  Then turned off the computer.  Later in the day I turned it on and booted into gnome.  Now gnome boots up but if I click on anything it just hangs forever.  KDE is working fine now.
[15:21] <arand> aeon-ltd: afaik, LO has moved quite a bit from oo already.
[15:22] <damno__> LarsTorben, u really seem crazy!
[15:22] <marienz> chris__: "anything" meaning the desktop or things on the panel or both?
[15:22] <damno__> aran, yes it has
[15:22] <aeon-ltd> arand: last time i used it just seemed less 'heavy'
[15:22] <damno__> oracle diong it their way
[15:23] <chris__> marien the panel and the desktop icons.  When I click on an icon, all the icons dissapear, the HD light goes on and just stays on, nothing happens.  If I click on the panel it will show the options for that menu system, they vanish and additional clicks on the panel do nothing
[15:23] <marienz> chris__: I don't have time to dig through this right now, but you'll have to narrow it down to something smaller than "gnome" (do gnome apps still work in the kde desktop? Which parts of the desktop do and do not work? Anything in ~/.xsession-errors? etc)
[15:23] <Oldgram> usb-creator doesn't work, I used UNetbootin instead and it seems to work
[15:23] <chris__> marien nothing at all works.
[15:23] <chris__> marien ah...
[15:23] <chris__> marien let me see.
[15:23] <damno__> chris, please post a thread with your probs in ubuntuforums.org
[15:24] <marienz> chris__: does it still work if you turn off desktop effects (assuming you can figure out how to do that from kde)?
[15:24] <damno__> I guess there's probs in chris's gconf
[15:24] <chris__> attyn  works in kde desktop
[15:25] <brightspark> chris__, can you launch a terminal using ctrl-alt-t?
[15:26] <damno__> chris,  do Alt+F2, navigate to desktop> gnome> interface and see if u can do something
[15:26] <chris__> dammo I wasnt able to do that
[15:26] <chris__> in my busted gnome I cannot open other terminals
[15:26] <chris__> nothing works
[15:26] <kwtm> Hi. What command-line command can I give (probably "dpkg ...something") that can list all the packages slated to be installed (+/- upgraded) which are not yet installed?
[15:26] <damno__> Ail+F4 then type in gconf-editor
[15:26] <chris__> all I get is my desktop picture
[15:26] <TheBIGone> Why Ubuntu is better than Windows ?
[15:27] <chris__> dammo I can do that from KDe right?
[15:27] <aeon-ltd> TheBIGone: it isn't, but based on your needs it could be
[15:27] <damno__> not from kde
[15:27] <ericxe> Hi
[15:28] <aeon-ltd> TheBIGone: use ipods? cameras? other peripherals excessively>
[15:28] <aeon-ltd> ?
[15:28] <Artemios> Does 11.04 beta workd fine?
[15:28] <jiohdi> TheBIGone: no anti-virus needed ... makes system faster
[15:28] <Artemios> Does 11.04 beta works fine?
[15:28] <Daekdroom> !natty | Artemios
[15:28] <chris__> so when I enter terminal and type gconf-editor (in KDE) I see this right off the bat: GConf Error: Type mismatch: Expected `bool' got `string' for key /desktop/gnome/interface/menus_have_icons
[15:28] <ericxe> i have  recently installed xubuntu 10.10 and i have not sound.... can someone help me? please!
[15:28] <mrdeb> yes it works, with compiz off and ingnome
[15:28] <TheBIGone> aeon-ltd playing computer games, chat (skype, irc etc.) , Documents (words,excel) .. that`s why I use mostly
[15:28] <ericxe>  i have  recently installed xubuntu 10.10 and i have not sound.... can someone help me? please!
[15:29] <aeon-ltd> TheBIGone: then i'd dual boot just for the games aspect, the others can be done in ubuntu easily
[15:29] <Polah> jiohdi: Not exactly true. Anti-virus systems are recommended when dealing with Windows systems on the same network, as you may pass on an infected file but not actually execute the virus yourself. This applies to things like mail servers. There are also a few dozen viruses for Linux.
[15:29] <TheBIGone> My computer was with Ubuntu when I bought it .. but then I buy Windows 7
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> ericxe: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && bash ./alsa-info.sh
[15:29] <aeon-ltd> TheBIGone: you already bought it?
[15:29] <TheBIGone> yeah.. :)
[15:29] <aeon-ltd> TheBIGone: then just dual boot anyway if you have a hour spare
[15:29] <damno__> kwtm, dpkg --get-selections > ~/Desktop/installed-software
[15:30] <ericxe> ericxe@EricPC:~$  wget -O alsa-info.sh http://alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh
[15:30] <ericxe> --2011-04-09 11:29:44--  http://alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh
[15:30] <ericxe> Resolviendo alsa-project.org... 77.48.224.243
[15:30] <ericxe> Conectando a alsa-project.org|77.48.224.243|:80... conectado.
[15:30] <ericxe> Petición HTTP enviada, esperando respuesta... 302 Found
[15:30] <ericxe> Ubicación: http://git.alsa-project.org/?p=alsa-driver.git;a=blob_plain;f=utils/alsa-info.sh [siguiente]
[15:30] <FloodBot3> ericxe: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:30] <TheBIGone> aeon-ltd there is 1 program with which you cann install ubuntu into windows hard without preinstall
[15:30] <jiohdi> Polah: while that is true, for the most part non -server users can get by without an anti-virus as I have for well over a year
[15:30] <TheBIGone> wubi is the name
[15:30] <TheBIGone> it is good ?
[15:30] <Polah> jiohdi: They can indeed.
[15:30] <kwtm> damno__: Thanks ... I thought that just said which have already been installed? Does that tell me which have not yet been installed?
[15:30] <Polah> TheBIGone, I'd recommend installing Ubuntu in it's own partition.
[15:30] <chris__> merian trying to turn off desktop effects, kde is a bit weird.. gnome apps workin kde for me though. I am in gconf-editor but have no idea what im doing in here
[15:31] <jiohdi> TheBIGone: wubi can be dangerous... it does not make a real install, it makes a special file within windows and when you update linux it can make the system crash
[15:31] <damno__> all
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> TheBIGone: I think not, it's nice for a quick try before you buy but as a long term solution I personally wouldn't use it and would use a true install
[15:31] <aeon-ltd> TheBIGone: its buggy still...., its a bigger risk than just livecd insatlls with grub
[15:31] <damno__> on your desktop the file will be created
[15:31] <TheBIGone> Oh I see, thanks gyus
[15:32] <itilious> can some one help me?
[15:32] <chris__> dammo think it might help if I rename all my .gconf files?
[15:32] <itilious> i lost my penis
[15:32] <kwtm> damno__: Was that "all" intended for me?  What can I do to filter in only the ones which still have to be installed?  I'm trying to see whether I have enough bandwidth to "apt-get dselect-upgrade" all these packages or whether I have to pick and choose manually.
[15:32] <damno__> kwtm,  u may see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1580857
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> !ot | itilious
[15:33] <damno__> ok , keep the file on another systems desktop; and then if you run   dpkg --set-selections < installed-software   the uninstalled ones will be installed
[15:33] <damno__> @kwtm,
[15:34] <damno__> kwtm,  got it?
[15:34] <kwtm> damno__: I have read through the first half of it, and it still does not address my question.  I just did the dpkg --set-selections <PreviousFile but due to an intermittent connection, not all packages were upgraded.  Now I want to know which packages are left to be installed.
[15:34] <phoenixsampras> BUG!! when i change the ip address on gnome network manager ... it doesnt change??  i do ifconfig eth0 and still the old address
[15:34] <kwtm> damno__: No, I should clarify my question.  I am *not* trying to install all the uninstalled software.  I already know how to do that.
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> phoenixsampras: try disabling the interface, then re-enabling it
[15:35] <damno__> kwtm, then what do u want
[15:35] <kwtm> damno__: I want to know, *if/when* I install "all uninstalled software left to be installed"  (via the "apt-get dselect-upgrade" command), WHICH packages will be installed.
[15:35] <kwtm> damno__: For example, is there some "apt-cache policy all" and then I pipe it through "grep needs-to-be-installed" or something?
[15:36] <damno__> kwtm, sorry, I never tryed those
[15:37] <kwtm> damno__: Ok, no problem.  I see from the dpkg man page that it can list package status.  Can I somehow list the status of all the packages instead of specifying a package name?
[15:37] <damno__> kwtm,  what do u mean by this "all uninstalled software left to be installed" ?
[15:37] <kwtm> damno__: Ok, nm, I found it ... it's "dpkg --yet-to-unpack"
[15:38] <damno__> ok,  time to go.
[15:38] <kwtm> damno__: I have selected (say) 100 packages to be installed, and did "apt-get dselect-upgrade".  In the middle of this, my connection went bad.  Then it went back up.  So, only 75 packages were installed (let's say).  So now there are 25 packages left to be installed.  I want to know WHICH 25 packages are marked for install but were not installed due to the bad connection.
[15:38] <kwtm> damno__: Thanks for your help.
[15:40] <work> Does anyone's XChat Gnome keep closing by itself???
[15:40] <stupidhead> hi all, i've just tried adding software source for handbreak and even after i've updated list it still doesn't recognise the "handbreak" package - double checked and it is there in software sources - can anybody help me out please?
[15:40] <VV0lf> Does anyone's Xchat keep exiting by itself?
[15:41] <byoungmn> Nope, mine has been up for two days, no drop  or crash here
[15:41] <raven_> virtual box trying to install vbox 4 from the website but ubuntu tells me about conflicts to the installed 3.2 version...
[15:41] <cox> who am i
[15:41] <mrdeb> can you change labels with gparted
[15:41] <smw> stupidhead, did you import their gpg key?
[15:41] <VV0lf> byoungmn, thanks for the respond...
[15:41] <VV0lf> Hmmm...
[15:41] <WolfMitchell> I
[15:41] <VV0lf> I'm not sure...
[15:41] <WolfMitchell> H
[15:41] <ericxe> I've recently installed Xubuntu 10.10 and i don't have sound... can someone help me please?
[15:41] <WolfMitchell> A
[15:41] <WolfMitchell> T
[15:41] <WolfMitchell> E
[15:41] <FloodBot3> WolfMitchell: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:41] <WolfMitchell> U
[15:42] <DETERMINOLOGY> Is there a date on ubuntu 11.04?
[15:42] <VV0lf> it doesn't have any problem if I go to Ubuntu
[15:42] <VV0lf> but whenever I try to go to HackThisSite's IRC Channel
[15:42] <VV0lf> it keeps closing
[15:42] <stupidhead> smw: no it didn't mention anything about that, only did the ppa thing
[15:42] <byoungmn> 22nd of the month I JUST read
[15:42] <VV0lf> and when I try to edit preferences, it quites itself...
[15:42] <VV0lf> hmmmm... Is this HackThisSite's problem?
[15:43] <VV0lf> thanks for anyone who's reading my messages.
[15:43] <ericxe> I've recently installed Xubuntu 10.10 and i don't have sound... can someone help me please??
[15:43] <mrdeb> ericxe: open terminal and type alsamixer, then press M to unmute master and pcm
[15:44] <ericxe> they are unmuted
[15:45] <VV0lf> @ericxe What hardware are you using?
[15:45] <stupidhead> no clues on this one then?
[15:45] <ericxe> @mrdeb they are unmuted
[15:46] <ericxe> @VV0lf SIS onboard
[15:46] <VV0lf> @ericxe Give me sometime to do some digging. I'm on a slow line...
[15:46] <hi988> hello
[15:46] <bob__756> ericxe: go to system preferences and sound and adust levels - that worked for me
[15:47] <vercing> hello
[15:47] <hi988> can i do anything by terminal?
[15:47] <VV0lf> @ericxe are you using sis 7012?
[15:48] <benzaldehyde> hi988: pretty much, i am talking to you from x-term via irssi
[15:48] <hi988> ok
[15:48] <benzaldehyde> *xterm
[15:48] <WolfMitchell> bored
[15:48] <hi988> what is irssi?
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> WolfMitchell: www.miniclip.com
[15:49] <benzaldehyde> hi988: an irc client
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> !info irssi | hi988
[15:49] <ericxe> @<bob__756> i've already did it and still doesn't work :(
[15:49] <WolfMitchell> I HATE miniclip
[15:49] <ericxe> @<VV0lf> yes!
[15:49] <byoungmn> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Maverick
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> te multiplayer pool is coolio ;)
[15:49] <ericxe> @VV0lf yes!
[15:50] <WolfMitchell> List of things I hate:
[15:50] <WolfMitchell> Ubuntu
[15:50] <WolfMitchell> Miniclip
[15:50] <WolfMitchell> Parental Controls
[15:50] <WolfMitchell> My BIOS
[15:50] <FloodBot3> WolfMitchell: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:50] <WolfMitchell> Poison
[15:50] <benzaldehyde> hi988: phonetically dictated to me as literal as vi is refered to by enunciating each individual letter, i-r-s-s-i
[15:50] <hi988> can i connect webnet  by teminal directly?
[15:50] <VV0lf> @erixe : I notice someone is saying that they have that problem. You can check out this page ---> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=484876
[15:50] <WolfMitchell> My gosh... It didnt even flood!
[15:50] <WolfMitchell> I only flooded once.
[15:51] <VV0lf> @ericxe  I notice someone is saying that they have that problem. You can check out this page ---> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=484876
[15:51] <benzaldehyde> WolfMitchell: EtOH is a poison
[15:51] <VV0lf> @ericxe it is tried on older versions of Ubuntu. I think it should work the same with Xubuntu. If I'm not wrong, the difference between Ubuntu and Xubuntu is the interface engine used.
[15:52] <WolfMitchell> Can i DCC a virus to FloodBot?
[15:53] <Daekdroom> !ops | WolfMitchell
[15:53] <iceroot> WolfMitchell: stop it please
[15:53] <kernelles> Hi everyone! Just hanging out to learn.
[15:53] <WolfMitchell> I WAS KIDDING -_-
[15:53] <ericxe> @VV0lf but in ubuntu it works perfectly
[15:53] <WolfMitchell> Gosh, Cant take a joke.
[15:53] <ericxe> @VV0lf the problem is here in Xubuntu, and i don't know why
[15:53] <Daekdroom> WolfMitchell, this is a technical support channel.
[15:53] <m4v> WolfMitchell: maybe you want #ubuntu-offtopic then?
[15:54] <VV0lf> @ericxe Hmmm... I'm quite noob also... Let me see check it out...
[15:54] <WolfMitchell> And BTW, How to you go back to windows BIOS from grub w/o any windows partition?
[15:55] <kernelles> What is the best place to file a bug against natty beta-1 if you're not a developer?
[15:55] <Polah> WolfMitchell, there is no Windows BIOS...
[15:55] <WolfMitchell> Whatever...
[15:55] <iceroot> !bug | kernelles
[15:55] <WolfMitchell> Windows MBR\
[15:55] <Polah> There's THE BIOS, which you can generally access using F1, F8, F11, F12, delete or some other things
[15:55] <Polah> If you didn't install Windows then the Windows bootloader won't be there. GRUB is in your MBR.
[15:56] <WolfMitchell> I hate ubuntu because i dont have internet in my room and i have ubuntu on that computer
[15:56] <kernelles> @ubuttu Thanks. I did this, and it took me to launchpad, which I thought was only for developers, so just wanted to make sure I was doing it right.
[15:56] <WolfMitchell> I want to go back to windows from ubuntu.
[15:56] <Polah> WolfMitchell: You just said there was no Windows partition.
[15:56] <WolfMitchell> Cant boot from any Windows disk, Grub rejects them.
[15:57] <mneptok> WolfMitchell: fdisk /mbr
[15:57] <Polah> WolfMitchell: If you hold shift during boot it'll give you the GRUB menu which you can select to boot Windows from, if you have it installed
[15:57] <WolfMitchell> I did, I went to the boot menu, went to CD-ROM, when my Windows XP Disk was in, and it booted into Ubuntu,
[15:58] <mneptok> WolfMitchell: and talking about trying to send channel bots a virus is a sure fire way to end your conversation prematurely. please stop.
[15:58] <WolfMitchell> mne-i was kidding
[15:58] <mneptok> WolfMitchell: unfunny. so don't. thanks.
[15:59] <WolfMitchell> I dont even have windows installed anymore...
[15:59] <kernelles> Does it matter which BIOS version I use from my OEM? I dual boot with windows and natty, but I'm having suspend/resume issues. When I checked my BIOS on Asus's website, they have one for Windows, and one for "Other"
[15:59] <WolfMitchell> I just want to go back to Windows...
[15:59] <[TK]D-Fender> WolfMitchell: So go install it over
[15:59] <mneptok> WolfMitchell: use the BIOS and not GRUB to select a boot device.
[15:59] <Polah> WolfMitchell: You haven't set your optical drive with a higher boot priority then
[15:59] <WolfMitchell> I tried
[15:59] <WolfMitchell> Polah-I did...
[15:59] <mneptok> WolfMitchell: if you tell the BIOS to boot from optical media, and it boots the hard disk anyway, the problem is not with Ubuntu
[16:00] <WolfMitchell> i g2g
[16:00] <Flynsarmy> Is there a terminal command that will open a file as if you'd double clicked on it? ie open in the default app for that file
[16:00] <DETERMINOLOGY> lol
[16:00] <[TK]D-Fender> WolfMitchell: then try again and do it right.  GRUB has no control over WHICH order devices from  your system will boot
[16:00] <bong_> hi there everyone
[16:00] <kernelles> hi bong!
[16:00] <bong_> what is up in here?
[16:00] <niteesh> optical media should be made bootable. just coping files into it wont work
[16:00] <mneptok> Flynsarmy: xdg-open
[16:00] <kernelles> @bong random tech support, I think
[16:01] <bullgard4> What is the function of the process [ttm_swap]?
[16:01] <bong_> oh i see :)
[16:01] <kernelles> :-)
[16:01] <U8untu> hey i am trying to install Ubuntu 10.10 from my USB (my phone, having a 2 Gb microSD card). i can install it only inside Windows, with wubi.exe, but i can`t install it instead of windows. it gives me some error: no default or ui configuration directive found
[16:01] <Flynsarmy> mneptok: thanks :)
[16:01]  * mneptok rambles off to prepare for today's flights
[16:02] <__Alex_> U8ntu: How did you get the setup files on the SD card?
[16:02] <__Alex_> U8ntu: What prob?
[16:02] <__Alex_> U8ntu: What prog?
[16:02] <U8untu> __Alex_ with unetbootin
[16:03] <__Alex_> Aha.
[16:03] <VV0lf> @ericxe Still there?
[16:03] <kernelles> I'm running 10.10 on another machine, and sometimes the window borders & controls don't display. I have to reboot (at least once) to get them back. What could cause this?
[16:03] <Noor_egy> hello
[16:03] <ericxe> @VV0lf yeah!
[16:03] <__Alex_> Man! I allwais had problems with Getting Ubuntu on a stick!
[16:03] <bong_> hello there Noor
[16:03] <kernelles> Hi, Noor!
[16:03] <rumpe1> kernelles, usually relogin should be sufficient... maybe bug with compiz?
[16:04] <Noor_egy> i just installed ubuntu 10.10 looks great :) , i liked it
[16:04] <bong_> maverick meerkat?
[16:04] <bong_> same here :D
[16:04] <Noor_egy> i used 8.04 before but wasnt that good
[16:04] <tekonivelo> i wonder if anybody else has seen Unity not draw the panel #753245
[16:04] <kernelles> Hmm. Thanks, rumpel.
[16:04] <rumpe1> kernelles, or entering "compiz --replace & disown" or "metacity --replace & disown" in terminal
[16:05] <tekonivelo> wait, what is the bot syntax for getting bugs? lp:753245
[16:05] <__Alex_> bong_ Is there a different version of uBUNT?
[16:05] <kernelles> @rumpel. Thanks! I'll try that.
[16:05] <U8untu> __Alex_ and if i am formatting the card.. i have FAT and FAT32 .. how to format a FAT16 ?
[16:05] <bong_> What are your thoughts on the Unity interface?
[16:05]  * tekonivelo is failing
[16:05] <tekonivelo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/753245
[16:05] <WolfMitchell> Back...
[16:05] <__Alex_> FAT16=FAT=VFAT
[16:05] <tekonivelo> bong_: i really like Unity
[16:05] <tekonivelo> bong_: i'm using a netbook, that makes a difference
[16:05] <bong_> what makes you like it?
[16:06] <bong_> oh i see
[16:06] <WolfMitchell> I tried pretty much any way to go back to Windows from ubuntu...None worked
[16:06] <__Alex_> U8untu: You are installing on a netbook?
[16:06] <U8untu> no, my computer
[16:06] <tekonivelo> bong_: i like it that it tries to distance itself from the traditional "desktop-metaphor"
[16:06] <kernelles> @bong, I've been running Natty beta 1 on my laptop for the last week, and loving it
[16:06] <wildc4rd> afternoon all
[16:07] <U8untu> __Alex_ my computer.. desktop edition ubuntu
[16:07] <bong_> @kernelles: what's natty?
[16:07] <__Alex_> U8untu: Your Optical Drive got burned?
[16:07] <tekonivelo> bong_: f.ex. the dash is much nicer idea than some sort of a hierarchical "main menu"
[16:07] <atlef> !natty | kernelles
[16:07] <kernelles> @bong Sorry, Natty is the name for the newest release of Ubuntu 11.04, to be released Apr. 28
[16:07] <kernelles> It uses Unity as the default UI
[16:07] <U8untu> __Alex_ dunno ... but i know that my CD-ROM burned..it doesn`t work
[16:07] <bong_> oh i see but can i switch to gnome if i use that?
[16:08] <U8untu> __Alex_ its strange that the computer recognizes the CD-ROM but its not working
[16:08] <__Alex_> kernelles: So natty is like Testing in debian?
[16:08] <tekonivelo> loads of discussion about Unity on OMG Ubuntu these days
[16:08] <__Alex_> did you set the boot order in bios to be CDRom=1, HDD=2
[16:09] <tekonivelo> which is good of course, that discourse needs to be had
[16:09] <VV0lf> @ericxe If you are using Xubuntu 10.10
[16:09] <bong_> Hi people, can I upgrade to Natty if I have Maverick installed?
[16:09] <chewy> hi guys, ... a stupid one. how can i get with 10.10 unity remix netbook the windows partitions?!
[16:09] <VV0lf> @ericxe It shouldn't be a problem...
[16:09] <kernelles> @Alex, no Natty is the next version of Ubuntu
[16:09] <chewy> i need access to them... i installed ntfs blabla, ...
[16:09] <brightspark> __Alex_, more like Sid.
[16:09] <U8untu> __Alex_ i set it..but..dunno.. now i unplugged the CD-ROM..i got mad
[16:09] <VV0lf> @ericxe as Alsa is automatically loaded during bootime...
[16:09] <tekonivelo> bong_: i did just that , from Maverick to Narry beta 1
[16:09] <bong_> Hmmm can I downgrade if I don't like Narry?
[16:09] <kernelles> @bong, Yes, but do so at your own risk, as it is for testing purposes only
[16:09] <rumpe1> chewy, "sudo fdisk -l", create mountpoints, mount the partitions... or use some fancy ntfs-toolkit :)
[16:10] <kernelles> @bong, you can't downgrade once you upgrade.
[16:10] <pcperini> hey- i'm running ubuntu as an ftp server, and one of the users (co-owner of the ftp server) accidentally deleted a fistful of files. is there any way to recover that? he's running cyberduck as an ftp client, if its relevant.
[16:10] <VV0lf> @ericxe Could you open synaptic and search for alsa-utils and alsa base and check if they are installed?
[16:10] <kernelles> If you want to try it, run from a live USB or CD/DVD instead
[16:10] <rumpe1> pcperini, which filesystem?
[16:10] <__Alex_> U8untu: Strange!, If you press F12 at startup of ypur comp, does a menu appear? (Boot selector)
[16:10] <U8untu> __Alex_ and i also tried all the possible methods...like i have read on ubuntu forums..
[16:10] <bong_> @kernelles: Aw, too sad. :( But I might try it :)
[16:10] <hipitihop> Is there a commonly used app which people use when scripting instalations, which watches what gets installed, when, parameters etc and the stores that as som form of specification or manifest so if you wanted to get a new machine into the same state you just play the manifest so to speak ?
[16:10] <chewy> rumpe1, no way. this is supposed to be EASY for noobs. iconish everywhere, ... no command line..
[16:10] <U8untu> __Alex_ no..it appears that error.. no default or ui configuration directive found
[16:11] <rumpe1> chewy, as i said... i think, there is some clicky-ntfs-tool in package-manager...
[16:11] <__Alex_> Then how did you get Windows there?
[16:11] <pcperini> rumpe1: you mean the filesystem of the disk or the ftp daemon?
[16:11] <kernelles> @bong I put it on my laptop, but that's because it's not my main machine.
[16:11] <ericxe> @VV0lf yes, they are installed
[16:11] <U8untu> __Alex_ where?
[16:11] <bong_> Is there a shortcut for opening the terminal on gnome?
[16:12] <rumpe1> bong_, alt-f2, "gnome-terminal"
[16:12] <chewy> there s onem yes rumpe1, but only istallable in sudo mode. and it appears then in the desktop but not in the unity one. it should be under apps or folders, ...
[16:12] <kernelles> @bong one advantage of this, if you don't need to count on that machine, is you find any bugs it has on your machine and file a report, so they can hopefully fix it before release.
[16:12] <bong_> @rumpel, thanks :)
[16:12] <__Alex_> U8untu: You told that the only way to install Ubuntu on your comp, is using Windows, using WUBi, so how did you get windows on your comp?
[16:12] <rumpe1> bong_, ah... or strg-alt-t
[16:13] <U8untu> __Alex_ i have windows..since.....5 or 6 years..and i want to get rid of it..i want ubuntu instead of it
[16:13] <bong_> @rumpel: German?
[16:13] <__Alex_> Hmm.
[16:13] <bong_> @rumpel: thanks for the tips :)
[16:13] <VV0lf> @ericxe Arrrgh... Sorry... I guess I'm still very noob... not sure how to help you. One experience I did have was in my sound preference, I changed my sound hardware from Internal Audio to HDMI.
[16:14] <VV0lf> @ericxe, you could check yours and see if you had anything similar to what I did...
[16:14] <__Alex_> U8untu: I think there is no way to install ubuntu on your comp, if you can't even boot it.
[16:15] <__Alex_> U8untu: Have you tried other distros, like Debian for example, if it works?
[16:15] <U8untu> __Alex_ and if i install ubuntu on another partition.. having both windows and ubuntu ..its not working properly.. the partition on wich is ubuntu has 130 Gb ..the installation size is set to 3 Gb ... and it cannot uptade...it says that i have no more free space..
[16:15] <joker_> where's my qq
[16:15] <joker_> with ylmf 3
[16:15] <pcperini> rumpe1: the filesystem type is vfat; the daemon is proftpd
[16:16] <U8untu> __Alex_ no..i tried just ubuntu.. its the only OS in linux i like..i don`t know how the other linux OS are :D
[16:16] <bullgard4> What is the function of the process [ttm_swap]?
[16:16] <__Alex_> U8untu: It's because of WUBI installs on a disk Image, not a real disk
[16:16] <rumpe1> pcperini, well... at first you should unmount the partition, create an image and then use testdisk or similar tools to maybe recover some files...
[16:17] <pcperini> rumpe1: no guarantees though, i'm guessing?
[16:17] <__Alex_> U8untu: What is your processor? amd64 or i386?
[16:17] <U8untu> __Alex_ so i should try another linux OS? like linux mint or debian..or what?
[16:17] <U8untu> dunno :D how do i find out? :))
[16:18] <rumpe1> pcperini, absolutely none... usually most people learn from these experiences and make more often backups ^^
[16:18] <__Alex_> U8untu: Is your comp a quadcore of a dualcore? Or a normal singlecore
[16:18] <U8untu> i think its amd..because when i start my pc it says AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2200+
[16:18] <kernelles> Why is 64 bit called "AMD" even if the chip is Intel? And why is 64 bit Ubuntu not recommended?
[16:18] <pcperini> rumpe1: kk. thanks
[16:18] <U8untu> my pc is a 32 bit
[16:18] <__Alex_> kernelles: Becaus it has less compiled packages
[16:19] <rumpe1> kernelles, historical reasons... and why should 64bit ubuntu not be recommended ?
[16:19] <oCean> kernelles: AMD came up with the 64bit extensions
[16:19] <DETERMINOLOGY> heres my ? tho
[16:19] <kernelles> @Alex, you mean fewer programs are available for 64 bit?
[16:19] <DETERMINOLOGY> what if you got like 6-8 gigs of ram
[16:19] <__Alex_> kernelles: That means you need to DIY, and some packages are closed source
[16:19] <DETERMINOLOGY> would it then be useless to run 32 bit?
[16:19] <DETERMINOLOGY> eh
[16:19] <kernelles> @Alex I see. Thanks!
[16:19] <mrdeb> yes 32bit is useless
[16:20] <oCean> mrdeb: what, why
[16:20] <atlef> !pae | DETERMINOLOGY:
[16:20] <U8untu> __Alex_ my pc is AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2200+, 1.80 GHz, 640 Mb RAM, NVidia GeForce FX5200 of 128 Mb :D
[16:20] <rumpe1> DETERMINOLOGY, that 64bit ubuntu is much inferior to 32bit is an old myth
[16:20] <kernelles> @oCean Interesting, didn't know that. I found this confusing, but that makes sense
[16:20] <mrdeb> bec it holds back the community from makign 64bit programs when almost all processors are 64bit now
[16:20] <U8untu> oh..and the HDD has 250 Gb
[16:20] <__Alex_> U8untu: then it's a i386
[16:20] <U8untu> oh
[16:21] <U8untu> __Alex_ well..thats the ubuntu i downloaded.. the i386 ...
[16:21] <__Alex_> U8untu: Try to download and burn this: http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/squeeze/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso
[16:21] <__Alex_> If it works
[16:22] <U8untu> __Alex_ download it and burn it..and then? try to boot it?
[16:22] <U8untu> its a full version..or what?
[16:22] <__Alex_> Yes, if it boots
[16:23] <__Alex_> No, it's debian, i want to try if it is just Ubuntu's problem
[16:23] <kernelles> @DETERMINOLOGY Wow! Thanks, I didn't know this was possible!
[16:24] <DETERMINOLOGY> what?
[16:24] <U8untu> __Alex_ with which should i burn it? with unetbootin or Universal-USB-installer?
[16:24] <Daniel0108> hi
[16:25] <kernelles> Got to go. Bye, everyone!
[16:25] <sasha> asd ads
[16:25] <__Alex_> UNetBootin
[16:25] <durando> how do you setup netmount under ubuntu?
[16:25] <muneeb> hi! if i install gnome-shell will i get option to switch back 2.3??
[16:25] <sasha> no
[16:26] <__Alex_> U8untu: and when it boots to the insaller, remove the usb-stick
[16:26] <U8untu> oke..be right back
[16:26] <Daniel0108> muneeb: do you want to install gnome3?
[16:26] <__Alex_> ok
[16:26] <Andy80> hi all, escuse me a quick question: could you please point me to the right channel/forum/mailing list/wiki ecc.... where to discuss about UDS? Thanks :)
[16:26] <__Alex_> !uds
[16:27] <muneeb> Daniel0108, yes
[16:27] <Daniel0108> muneeb: which ubuntu version? 10.10 or 11.04?
[16:27] <muneeb> Daniel0108, 10.10
[16:27] <oCean> Andy80: there is also an #ubuntu-uds channel, not sure if anyone is there though
[16:27] <tania1> hi guys, I nedd help :) my Ubuntu doesn't log on.
[16:27] <Daniel0108> muneeb: you can't just install gnome-shell, it's made for 11.04
[16:28] <Andy80> __Alex_: that is the website, I already know about it. But no link to any discussions :\
[16:28] <muneeb> Daniel0108, but i can see it in apt-cache search
[16:28] <__Alex_> Aha
[16:28] <Daniel0108> use this command to install gnome3 and LEAVE gnome2 on 10.10
[16:28] <Daniel0108> muneeb: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-desktop/gnome3-builds && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install gnome3-session
[16:28] <Andy80> oCean: yes, I'm  inside it, but it looks ghostly :)
[16:28] <hdg> Is there an easy way to switch from persistence back to non persistence?
[16:28] <hdg> any*
[16:29] <__Alex_> Daniel0108: Do you think there is a Gnome3 for Sid?
[16:29] <muneeb> Daniel0108, i was reading that only. But is it possible to switch back? if i don't like it for some reason
[16:29] <U8untu> __Alex_ it works..it gives me the install
[16:29] <Daniel0108> muneeb: yes, you can choose GNOME 3 or Ubuntu Desktop on login
[16:29] <Daniel0108> __Alex_: what do you mean by sid? a gnome session?
[16:29] <muneeb> Daniel0108, thanks a lot .. I'll try it now
[16:30] <__Alex_> U8untu: so install it! and enjoy Debia. Sorry, it's not ubuntu, but it's linux
[16:30] <Daniel0108> muneeb: okay
[16:30] <tania1> I tried log on through of (ctrl+alt+f1) but accuses Error: /bin/bash acess denied
[16:30] <__Alex_> Danilel0l08: Sid is Debian Unstable
[16:30] <hdg> Is there an easy way to switch from persistence back to non persistence on a USB?
[16:31] <Daniel0108> __Alex_: oh, I don't know :) I just use Ubuntu and Debian Server, but I don't use Debian for personal purposes
[16:31] <U8untu> __Alex_ but ... it is a full version?cuz the image is little..why its called mini? :P
[16:31] <edbian> hdg, Use the USB creator and create the drive again (why do you want to do this?)
[16:31] <__Alex_> U8untu: It downloads all stuff from the net while install!
[16:31] <fez> hi
[16:32] <__Alex_> U8untu: What is cool
[16:32] <magic_1> hi all, hoping someone can help, took over admin of a server from one of our guys that left the company, its ubuntu 10.10 -  he however changed the password to the server and i can now not log into the server
[16:32] <magic_1> i am sitting with it here next to me
[16:32] <U8untu> __Alex_ and whats is name.. just Debian? :P
[16:32] <Sik> Silly question, I've just plugged in my GeForce 7300 GS and it works, but how do I force programs to use hardware OpenGL instead of software OpenGL? (moreover, how do I know that the hardware OpenGL drivers are actually working)
[16:32] <oCean> U8untu, __Alex_ this channel is not for debian support. You could re-try ubuntu after checksumming your downloaded iso. Debian discussion is offtopic here
[16:32] <Daniel0108> magic_1: do you have the root password?
[16:32] <__Alex_> U8untu: Yes
[16:32] <magic_1> i dont get the normal boot screen where i can boot into single mode
[16:32] <magic_1> nope
[16:33] <hdg> edbian: i want to add some programs, remove some, tweak, and then have it be nonpersistent after that
[16:33] <muneeb> Daniel0108, how do i install apps specific to gnome3? it seems they didnt get downloaded?
[16:33] <__Alex_> Ok, ok, oCean, Ill stop
[16:33] <chris__> Hi, an update broke my gnome desktop.  Is there a command to check and repair it?
[16:33] <magic_1> hi Daniel0108: unfortunately not
[16:33] <edbian> hdg, Then what you really want is to roll your own distro.  I think there are packages for that.  You can create a iso that can become a live CD or a usb drive.
[16:33] <bob__968> sik: doesn't geforce use nvidea drivers?
[16:33] <Daniel0108> muneeb: use the software center
[16:33] <hdg> ya i have done that already
[16:34] <magic_1> i see with this version, it boots similar to windows, as in there is boot selector
[16:34] <Daniel0108> muneeb: the apps have nothing to do with gnome, just with gtk :)
[16:34] <magic_1> which i could have then used
[16:34] <muneeb> Daniel0108, okay
[16:34] <hdg> the only problem is that i have been going back and forth making so many changes that it's really time consuming
[16:34] <Sik> bob__968: I guess, but I want to make sure it's using the hardware OpenGL drivers - I'm trying to run some program but it's horribly slow o_O (like, less than 2FPS for two textured triangles what)
[16:34] <magic_1> so in this can kinda stuck
[16:34] <Sik> Wine doesn't seem to be using hardware OpenGL either :|
[16:34] <magic_1> meant in this case
[16:35] <hdg> and i really just wanted to be able to "Unfreeze" then "freeze" it so i could tweak make changes and have those save as persistence
[16:35] <bob__968> sik: I used system admin drivers(or something like it) to search for drivers and it found 2
[16:35] <edbian> hdg, I'm not sure of anything that works like that
[16:36] <Sik> bob__968: ...D'OH *checks additional driver list*
[16:36] <magic_1> any ideas?
[16:36] <hdg> edbian: neither am i, for windows i have something called deepfreeze, and it works really well, I was just wondering if someone here had any idea
[16:36] <Cool0> всем ку кто русский ?)
[16:36] <Sik> Um
[16:37] <Sik> So I have version 173, version 96 and "current" version of the nVidia drivers available
[16:37] <Sik> Which one is better?
[16:37] <atlef> !ru | Cool0
[16:37] <Sik> Current being listed last makes me think it's actually the oldest, not the newest
[16:37] <__Alex_> !english | Cool0
[16:38] <bob__968> sik: try one and see - I didn't know for mine either and used the one with recomended by it
[16:38] <Sik> OK, will try that first
[16:39] <DavidJonas> ho.... i'm in big trouble. I've been setting up a server (which took multiple reinstalls and LOTs of configuring)  and now I get a warning for no swap space. I checked and I noticed the last time I partitioned the disk I forgot to add the swap partition (idiot!!). I didn't notice till now because I have 16Gb memory but I can't go live without swap and I can't reinstall because we're supposed to go live tomorrow...
[16:39] <jfb_h20> anyone have a link for the most current and best (or proper) way to install gnome3?
[16:39] <Sik> Installing...
[16:39] <DavidJonas> is there a way to set up a swap space without having to format?
[16:39] <oCean> DavidJonas: you can add a swapfile if you want
[16:39] <Sik> Meanwhile, does anybody know how to tell pulseaudio which sound device to use? >_> Because it's defaulting to the second sound device
[16:39] <jfb_h20> DavidJonas: can't you use gparted? And resize partitions?
[16:39] <oliver3> DavidJonas, http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-add-a-swap-file-howto/
[16:40] <Sik> I'd just have one enabled but as long as pulseaudio insists on using device #2 I won't have sound
[16:40] <mneptok> DavidJonas: you could use a swap file instead of swap partition
[16:40] <Pulsar560> Hello !
[16:40] <__Alex_> hi
[16:40] <DavidJonas> thanks guys!
[16:40] <DavidJonas> what are the cons of using swap file?
[16:41] <Polah> DavidJonas, it's much slower than actual RAM.
[16:41] <mrdeb> DavidJonas: your disk space is used up uselessly if you have enough
[16:41] <oCean> DavidJonas: it is slightly slower then swap partition, which is on-disk swap too, obviously
[16:41] <mrdeb> if you have enough ram, you dont need swap
[16:41] <mneptok> DavidJonas: the biggest thing is remembering to track where that file lives, and exclude it from backup and such
[16:41] <mrdeb> anything over 2gb, no swap
[16:42] <mneptok> mrdeb: not true in all cases
[16:42] <Sik> Gotta reboot
[16:42] <oCean> mrdeb: what?
[16:42] <Polah> mrdeb: Better to be on the safe side and assign at least 2GB to swap just in case
[16:42] <mrdeb> what for
[16:43] <mrdeb> my computer never taps into swap unless you hibernate, which is absolutely useless
[16:43] <mneptok> mrdeb: without swap equal to physical RAM most laptops will not sleep or hibernate.
[16:43] <oCean> mrdeb: so that is in your specific case
[16:43] <mrdeb> mneptok: they will sleep. suspend works. you dont need hibernate, which is slow and pointelss
[16:44] <mneptok> mrdeb: i'm pretty sure i know what i need.
[16:44] <mneptok> pretty sure.
[16:44] <oCean> mrdeb: I have 8GB ram, and definitely use >2GB swap so you don't have an accurate rule-of-thumb there
[16:44] <mrdeb> oCean: what uses it
[16:45] <edbian> mneptok, They will only not sleep or hibernate if the amount of data that needs to be stored is bigger than swap.  (i.e. you try to sleep / hibernate when your ram is full)
[16:46] <edbian> mneptok, Additionally, they only use the swap partition to hibernate, sleep keeps things in ram
[16:46] <shawncm217> Banshee will not remember the settings for my portable media player. i've googled a bit, but can't find anything for this problem. Has anyone seen this, or have a google search i should try?
[16:47] <mtopus09> hi
[16:47] <ocool> any good python gui learning website
[16:47] <edbian> mrdeb, oCean mneptok For what it's worth.  I have 1Gb of ram and 1Gb of swap and it has always been more than enough.
[16:47] <ohsix> mrdeb: try not to inject opinion into trying to help people
[16:47] <mtopus09> I need help on blackbuntu
[16:47] <DavidJonas> Thanks a lot mneptok, oCean jfb_h20, mrdeb. is gparted also an option for me? I am running 10.10 Server Edition (no X)
[16:48] <mrdeb> :/
[16:48] <ohsix> mrdeb: and swap is always good; anonymous pages can go there, and other pages can go there when they haven't been touched in a while
[16:48] <VAIO> hay guys, I am having problems configuring my ZTE USB modem for CDMA in ubuntu 10.10 and 11.04 beta1, it works fine in windows, ubuntu does not detect it, i think its something wrong with usb mode switch
[16:48] <ocool> please download latest driver for usb modem
[16:48] <Gatuno> hello
[16:49] <mtopus09> I can't launch ettercap
[16:49] <Gatuno> Can someone help me configuring my Grub on external USB HDD?
[16:49] <VAIO> are they available from ubuntu of from ZTE
[16:49] <ocool> yeah you can search !
[16:50] <ocool> please tell me how to run fast ubuntu
[16:50] <__Alex_> ocool: Ubuntu is sure a slow distro
[16:50] <ohsix> brrrrrrrpht
[16:50] <Seveas> ocool, install an afterburner and turbocharger
[16:51] <ocool> is opensuse better than ubuntu?
[16:51] <niklasfi> hello, i am trying to determine the host i am on using its hostname in a bash script can anyone help? https://gist.github.com/911403
[16:51] <bullgard4> What is the function of the process [ttm_swap]?
[16:51] <Seveas> !best | ocool
[16:51] <ohsix> ocool: "better" is subjective, you should probably subject yourself to something and decide for yourself
[16:51] <ohsix> bullgard4: sounds like the new page manager for drm/gem; are you using an intel card?
[16:52] <Seveas> bullgard4, processes whose name are enclosed in [...] are actually kernel threads. The name of this one suggests it does something with swap
[16:52] <FabriceMG> cool, I like 11.04 and unity !
[16:52] <Gatuno> I'm having problem booting Ubuntu on other PC's using my USB HDD, as it's treated differently on other pcs, giving it names like (fd0), (hd1), (hd2)
[16:52] <__Alex_> ocool: I use Debian, I think Ubuntu is slow, and i hate YaST on Suse, but it's everyone's personal choice
[16:52] <ocool> how to speedup my running Ubuntu version?
[16:53] <Seveas> heh, yast....
[16:53] <ohsix> Sik: bro i got answers for you
[16:53] <Gatuno> Is there a way to install it correctly so it will boot no matter what name is given to it?
[16:53] <Sik> OK, the video driver seems to work :O Now onto the other problem
[16:53] <Sik> ohsix: huh?
[16:53] <ohsix> Sik: first, use glxinfo it will tell you what is going on with rendering
[16:53] <Seveas> ocool, remove unneccessary software
[16:53] <Sik> Er, um, it was just that I needed to install the new video drivers, now OpenGL works in hardware
[16:53] <bullgard4> ohsix: lspci says: "VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10]
[16:53] <Sik> Also glxinfo? Thanks for reminding me of the spelling :P
[16:54] <ohsix> Sik: second, open volume properties and pick the device you want to use; pulse has a list of rankings but sometimes it picks the wrong output when there are some with the same rank, if there's 2 it's 50/50 :D
[16:54] <mtopus09> please i need help on Blackbuntu. I've have a problem when, I launch Ettercarp
[16:54] <ohsix> bullgard4: maybe they use it too
[16:54] <kleopatra> Hi i have two monitors and want to run 1 with 1680*1050 and the other with 1024*768. I tried but i got the error: x-server does not support this and now i get signal at only one monitor and it annoys me i shall log out and in for every step
[16:54] <Seveas> mtopus09, we don't support derivative distros like blackbuntu
[16:54] <Sik> ohsix: the problem is that apparently the proper onboard sound drivers won't load unless it happens to be device #2
[16:54] <Sik> >_>
[16:54] <mtopus09> why ?
[16:54] <ohsix> bullgard4: or first, or at all; drivers/gpu/drm/ttm/ttm_memory.c is where the kthread is started
[16:54] <Sik> (and the order of the devices seems to be random)
[16:55] <ohsix> Sik: it is random, or rather; can't be trusted to be the same on every boot, but pulse should be using bus addresses and outputting to the one you set regardless
[16:55] <chris__> hello. So, I did some updates and my gnome desktop is not working. ubuntu 10.04. KDE is working. Other users also cannot use gnome.  I tried to fix broken packages, no good.  BUT... I just opened synaptic and it is telling me that GNOME is uninstalled.... yet I can boot into gnome, it just hangs after I do. Any ideas?
[16:55] <oCean> mtopus09: because of the repository and software changes each derivative has
[16:55] <Sik> ohsix: OK... now, how do I ensure it loads the proper drivers for the onboard sound always? (and the sound card is also hit and miss on getting it to work... ugh)
[16:56] <Sik> I just did sudo alsa reload and that seemed to get it reload the proper drivers though... Eh, I wish it was permanent though >_>
[16:56] <mtopus09> I just learning with this distribution, and I'm beginner
[16:57] <oCean> mtopus09: but it is offtopic in this channel
[16:58] <kleopatra> can someone help me ?
[16:58] <mtopus09> ok which channel should I choose ?
[16:58] <ohsix> Sik: you shouldn't have to worry about the driver loading if it is indeed a pulse problem
[16:58] <bullgard4> ohsix: I found this driver's source code on my computer too. I can now study the source code although it is not amply commented. --  Thank you very much for your help.
[16:58] <mtopus09> or where can I explain my problem on blackbuntu
[16:58] <edbian> kleopatra, Just ask your questions and if people know they will help you.
[16:58] <ohsix> Sik: alsactl reload or whatever might bypass module blacklisting, so i'd look there
[16:59] <kleopatra> edbian:  Hi i have two monitors and want to run 1 with 1680*1050 and the other with 1024*768. I tried but i got the error: x-server does not support this and now i get signal at only one monitor and it annoys me i shall log out and in for every step
[16:59] <__Alex_> !someone | kleopatra
[16:59] <bullgard4> Seveas:Tthank you for your comments.
[16:59] <Seveas> mtopus09, look on the blackbuntu website to find support
[16:59] <ohsix> bullgard4: basically the ttm is the page manager for the gem, having its own swapper lets it handle pages like memory pages and not manually like they do without it
[16:59] <Dinliani> hi guys
[16:59] <ohsix> that is, main memory pages
[16:59] <Sik> ohsix: er, whatever, at worst I'll have to load it manually, not like I boot every two seconds :P Will come back later if I outright can't get sound working again
[16:59] <Sik> See ya
[16:59] <mtopus09> ok thanks
[17:00] <Dinliani> http://pastebin.com/MhpkNaTb
[17:00] <Dinliani> this is my visudo
[17:00] <__Alex_> kleopatre: Try to set it up in the Catalyst control center
[17:00] <necromancer> hi
[17:00] <Dinliani> and i still need put passwd to use sudo
[17:00] <ocool> tell me python gui development site?
[17:00] <Dinliani> what the hell ?
[17:00] <bittin> hi
[17:00] <necromancer> i'm having some trouble getting multiple sites running on apache2
[17:00] <necromancer> (ubuntu 10)
[17:01] <Seveas> ocool, pygtk.org
[17:01] <bullgard4> ohsix: Thank you for your helpful remark.
[17:01] <necromancer> my domain mahoganytales.com always gets loaded as the "default vhost"
[17:01] <necromancer> but i want psychedeli.ca to be loaded instead
[17:01] <necromancer> the problem is, the config for the first domain is called "mahogany" and the config for the second domain is called "psycho"
[17:01] <oCean> Dinliani: you are probably not member of the %sudo group
[17:02] <necromancer> so i think "mahogany" is getting loaded first and NamedVirtualHost *:80 is being applied to it
[17:02] <Dinliani> oCean, what should i change?
[17:02] <Dinliani> and how
[17:02] <Seveas> necromancer, the default vhost is the first one listed, so change ordering.
[17:02] <necromancer> Seveas: how do i change ordering?
[17:02] <Seveas> I usually name my vhost files 00_onedomain.net and 01_nextdomain.net
[17:02] <oCean> Dinliani: use 'id' to see in which groups you are, most likely you are in the %admin group. In that case, edit the line starting with %admin accordingly
[17:02] <necromancer> is the order in a config file somewhere?
[17:02] <necromancer> Seveas: oh yeah that's what i was thinking...
[17:02] <Seveas> alphabetical by config filename
[17:02] <necromancer> Seveas: that seems a little hacky to me though :)
[17:02] <Dinliani> gid=1000(aless) oCean
[17:02] <Seveas> hacky but works :)
[17:03] <ohsix> necromancer: it's actually great :D
[17:03] <__Alex_> Dinliani: add your self to the sudoers list
[17:03] <oCean> Dinliani: that is your only group?
[17:03] <ohsix> necromancer: most config files are split up like that too; so you can control the order while not having to edit one huge file
[17:03] <Dinliani> oCean, this is my only usr too
[17:03] <Dinliani> aless is unique usr/group
[17:03] <Dinliani> user* sorry
[17:03] <__Alex_> Dinliani: Type: As superuser 'visudo'
[17:04] <oCean> Dinliani: by default your user created during install should be in some 10 groups or so
[17:04] <oCean> __Alex_: s/he did that already
[17:04] <__Alex_> aha
[17:04] <Dinliani> __Alex_, http://pastebin.com/MhpkNaTb
[17:04] <Dinliani> i edit the visudo
[17:04] <Dinliani> what should i do now?
[17:04] <Dinliani> ><
[17:04] <oCean> Dinliani: your user configuration is off. Is this the user created during install?
[17:05] <ohsix> single user mode!
[17:05] <Dinliani> oCean, yes aless is the owner of install
[17:05] <oCean> Dinliani: it should be in more groups, or it will not be possible to use several resources
[17:05] <Dinliani> oCean, how to show groups
[17:05] <__Alex_> But isn't that dangerous?
[17:05] <oCean> Dinliani: the configuration is way off. What install is this?
[17:05] <oCean> Dinliani: type 'id'
[17:05] <Dinliani> oCean, the configuration is done by me
[17:06] <Dinliani> uid=1000(aless) gid=1000(aless) groupes=1000(aless),4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),46(plugdev),111(lpadmin),119(admin),122(sambashare)
[17:06] <oCean> Dinliani: aha
[17:06] <necromancer> okay...so now that i renamed all my stuff my second domain mahoganytales.com is pointing to psychedeli.ca
[17:06] <oCean> Dinliani: you showed me previous output *only* gid=1000
[17:06] <Dinliani> yes sorry
[17:06] <Dinliani> my fault ^^
[17:07] <Dinliani> i want no passwd for ANYTHING i do
[17:07] <oCean> Dinliani: anyway, since you are in admin group, you have to edit the /etc/sudoers file again (using visudo) and change the line starting with %admin (according to the line you added starting with %sudo)
[17:07] <Dinliani> also if i erase all system files
[17:07] <Dinliani> oCean, what should i put to line %admin ?
[17:07] <__Alex_> Dinliani: But that's DANGEROUS!
[17:07] <__Alex_> !dangerous
[17:07] <oCean> Dinliani: exactly as the line starting with %sudo, but now starting with %admin
[17:08] <Dinliani> __Alex_, seriously? :)
[17:08] <thauriswulfa> ◕‿◕
[17:08] <__Alex_> yes
[17:08] <kleopatra> I cannot activate my second monitor, no matter what resolution, i tried ati center and the ubuntu stuff, what can i do??
[17:08] <Deadglow> i am getting resize operation failure on the resizing partition screen when installing ubuntu.  is there anything i can do?
[17:08] <Dinliani> oCean, thx i try to restart sessio
[17:09] <Dinliani> and see if it works
[17:09] <__Alex_> Deadglow: Yes, TO DELETE WINDOWS!
[17:09] <arand> Deadglow: Go into windows and run chkdsk and possibly also defragmentation
[17:09] <arand> __Alex_: That doesn't really help, and no need to chout.
[17:09] <necromancer> Seveas: hey i tried what you said but now it's applying the site for psychedeli.ca to all my domains
[17:10] <Dinliani> re
[17:10] <Deadglow> ok. i've run chkdsk and will try defrag
[17:10] <Dinliani> it works half
[17:10] <Dinliani> i open an archive with xarchiver and try to extract graphicly/manually files into /usr/lib/
[17:10] <Dinliani> and it fails
[17:10] <Dinliani> "you have not the right blablabla"
[17:11] <oCean> Dinliani: it is not necessary to restart anything after edit of sudoers
[17:11] <aussa> when i have windows as virtual machine, can i install drivers in it?
[17:11] <Dinliani> oCean, just tell me how to have ALL RIGHT for ANYTHING and EVERYTIME
[17:11] <wafflecakes> Does anyone know how to write a program to copy all pictures and move them to another computer?
[17:12] <oCean> Dinliani: I did. If you got it right, it will never ask for pw, however you still have to use 'sudo' and/or gksudo for graphical environment
[17:12] <benzaldehyde> i just found out that one of the creators of Debian's birthday is on Aoril 28th, Ian Murdock, the other half of the portmanteaux that makes up Debian being Debra Murdock
[17:12] <Dinliani> oCean, but when i slide files from xarchiver to /usr/lib/ it fails and return error "you have not the right"
[17:13] <Dinliani> graphicly it fails, why ?
[17:13] <Dinliani> may xarchiver use right from an other group ?
[17:13] <oCean> Dinliani: did you use gksu?
[17:13] <arand> Deadglow: For gui apps you will need to use gksudo
[17:13] <Dinliani> oCean, i use no command
[17:14] <Dinliani> oCean, i only open an rar archive
[17:14] <arand> Dinliani: You might want to look into somthing else than Ubuntu (e.g. backtrack), since Ubuntu is not at all intended to be set up in this way.
[17:14] <Dinliani> and try to slide files from here, to a /usr/lib window
[17:14] <Dinliani> arand, i like ubuntu, i just don't need a security
[17:14] <Dinliani> all my files are often saved, and if something wrong i can reinstall
[17:14] <Dinliani> i don't care.
[17:15] <Dinliani> if i install a virus, with asking me passwd, i will put the passwd
[17:16] <Dinliani> if there is no passwd, it still same
[17:16] <Dinliani> at the end, the virus still fuck my computer
[17:16] <Dinliani> in both case
[17:16] <Dinliani> passwd or not
[17:16] <FloodBot3> Dinliani: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:16] <arand> Dinliani: Because most things are setup not to do that it will likely cause other unrelated issues as well https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo#root%20account has instructions on how to enable a root account
[17:16] <quup> Hi! I need urgent help, My HD is on its last breah, downloaded desktop .iso, tried to put on USB stick, usb-creator-gtk segfaultet, wtf do I do now?!
[17:17] <IdleOne> quup: try unetbootin
[17:17] <IdleOne> it's in the repos
[17:17] <malinens> hi! how to allow only one CPU core for the procees from terminal?
[17:18] <mindware>  my question is: if I take a android tablet firmware, and strip it clean, remain with the kernel(probabli init too)...can I build a normal linux distributin on top?
[17:18] <tigerplug292> anyone using truecrypt with ubuntu?
[17:19] <I_LOVE_LINUX> where do i look for help?
[17:19] <genec> I_LOVE_LINUX: depends on the question
[17:19] <I_LOVE_LINUX> @genec the question is based on wine
[17:20] <ikonia> #winehq is a good channel
[17:20] <Dinliani> arand, i am in usermod -l root
[17:20] <Dinliani> but my Xarchiver still have not the right to put files into /usr/lib
[17:20] <I_LOVE_LINUX> where do i look for help in wine?
[17:21] <genec> malinens: most processes will only use 1 core; only multiprocessing apps will use multiple cores
[17:21] <genec> I've encountered an error in grub during install with Ubuntu 11.04-beta1 using btrfs; trying to figure out what bug to report it on (or a new one);  I've tried #ubuntu-testing but would welcome guidance for where to report/ask question
[17:21] <Dinliani> you have not the right to extract into :  file:///usr/lib/eclipse/plugins
[17:21] <malinens> I have ffmpeg which uses all cores...
[17:21] <Dinliani> arand,  ?
[17:21] <benzaldehyde> genec: #ubuntu+1
[17:21] <arand> Dinliani: So you decided to disable the root account again?
[17:21] <genec> benzaldehyde: thanks
[17:22] <Dinliani> arand, i want all be able to do all
[17:22] <Dinliani> i assume that
[17:22] <Dinliani> and im bored of advertise, no need :)
[17:22] <Dinliani> if someone buy a cigaret, the seller wont tell him "you wanna die!"
[17:23] <ikonia> can we get back to ubuntu support discussion please
[17:23] <padhu> Hey friends list me some linux games like never ball, crack attack, pingus etc
[17:23] <mindware> again ,maybe the one person who can answer missed it :d : my question is: if I take a android tablet firmware, and strip it clean, remain with the kernel(probably init too)...can I build a normal linux distribution on top?
[17:23] <arand> Dinliani: Do read what the commands do on the wiki... Presumably, after you enabled root you need to log out and log in again with athat account, which once again, may very well break the system.
[17:23] <ikonia> mindware: no
[17:23] <Dinliani> arand, i don't want to disable root
[17:23] <mindware> ikonia : why?
[17:23] <ikonia> mindware: you may want to try that sort of question in ##linux as it's generic, rather than something ubuntu related
[17:23] <Dinliani> i want to be the root
[17:24] <Dinliani> as user 'aless"
[17:24] <ikonia> Dinliani: investigate sudo
[17:24] <ElleJayElle> mindware: i think there are ways on some devices at least, with a chroot or something, to install normal distributions, but you should probably ask in #android
[17:24] <mindware> ikonia : ok :) sorry for it :)
[17:24] <necromancer> Dinliani: that goes against unix philosophy :)
[17:24] <arand> Dinliani: Then why did you run sudo usermod -l root
[17:24] <Dinliani> ikonia, it is already done
[17:24] <Dinliani> but gksudo isn't done
[17:24] <bahamas> hello. i've installed mercurial with apt-get, but the version installed is pretty old. how can i install a newer (the newest) version?
[17:24] <necromancer> you might as well just run window
[17:24] <necromancer> windows*
[17:24] <necromancer> if you're gonna run ubuntu as root all the time graphically
[17:24] <arand> ikonia: He is intent om running X as root...
[17:24] <ikonia> oh, I missed that
[17:24] <mindware> cannot join # android...hat's the first thing I tried..
[17:24] <ikonia> mindware: ##linux
[17:24] <ElleJayElle> mindware: you need to be identified
[17:25] <ElleJayElle> !register > mindware    (mindware, see the private message from ubottu)
[17:25] <malinens> I already found. ffmpeg has  -threads 1 option...
[17:25] <lampe2> hey i wanne sync my evolution settings with my pc and notebook
[17:25] <cheshire_fox> If I were to remove the nouveau driver for my nvidia card, wouldn't I then start to run on the generica VESA driver (after reboot, of course).
[17:25] <mindware> thank you all! :)
[17:26] <Dinliani> arand, just tell me, how to graphicly extract something into a repertory (without type command) if i can't put passwd?
[17:26] <Dinliani> it just return "you can't
[17:26] <bahamas> anyone?
[17:26] <cheshire_fox> I don't have any other driver installed, proprietary or other wise.
[17:26] <Dinliani> arand, then i just want to put all right to graphics to be sure i wont be blocked by this
[17:26]  * cheshire_fox pokes people
[17:27] <flan_suse> I'm still unable to upgrade to Banshee 2.0 with the Ubuntu PPA. Manually browsing the PPA shows 2.0 packages, but in my package manager, on 1.8 packages are listed.
[17:28] <edbian> bahamas, You can download and install from the website.  This is discouraged though.  The versions in the repos are usually in there because of a good reason.  I suggest you wait until ubuntu 11.04 that comes out on the 28th
[17:28] <Memphizzz> Hi all. after logging in i see my HDD activity led blinking all the time. how can i figure out which process is causing this activity? gnome-system-monitor only shows cpu activity...
[17:29] <BluesKaj> cheshire_fox, I tried removing the nouveau driver , but wasn't successful , the only way is to install the recommended driver in admin HW jockeyafaik
[17:29] <bahamas> edbian: i'm already using an older version of ubuntu, so i don't i'll be updating any time soon
[17:29] <bahamas> *i don't think
[17:29] <padhu> which game is equivalent to pocket tanks?
[17:29] <deskey> any one know how to disable desktop effects in 11.04 beta version?
[17:30] <edbian> bahamas, Then if you really want the newest version go to the mercurial website and install it from there.  This generally is not a good idea because newer versions are buggy, might depend on dependencies that you also have to install from those sites, and has potentially more exploits
[17:30] <arand> Dinliani: You are by default not intended to extract items to those locations, the idea is if you want to edit things in those locations, you'll be able to do so via commands in the terminal anyways. The wiki describes how to enable a root account and you may be able to login as "root" after doing so, and run X as root. Most likely it will cause issues though.
[17:30] <ikonia> deskey: #ubuntu+1 is the correct channel for 11.04 discussion
[17:31] <bahamas> edbian: ok. i thought there's a different way. i know that debian has something like unstable where you can download a newer version
[17:31] <cheshire_fox> BluesKaj: No dice.  My nvidia chipset is fried.  both the nouveau driver and the proprietary driver do not work.
[17:31] <BluesKaj> cheshire_fox, which nvidia card ?
[17:31] <cheshire_fox> BluesKaj: I have no real need for a graphical environment, at least on the computer in question.
[17:31] <cheshire_fox> BluesKaj: built in, hp laptop, to late to file a claim :(
[17:31] <edbian> bahamas, Ubuntu does not have that. (You're right though, Debian does).  There is a good chance there is a PPA though :)
[17:32] <cheshire_fox> geforce go 7600
[17:32] <Memphizzz> After logging in I see my HDD activity led blinking all the time. How can I figure out which process is causing this activity? gnome-system-monitor only shows CPU activity...
[17:32] <erUSUL> Memphizzz: iotop
[17:33] <bahamas> edbian: where do i look for it?
[17:33] <alsuna> bahamas: there's a banshee-daily PPA here: https://launchpad.net/~banshee-team/+archive/banshee-daily
[17:33] <BluesKaj> cheshire_fox, one way to check is with you VGA out if your laptop has one , otherewise being a laptop ...it could be your screen is kaput.
[17:34] <Memphizzz> erUSUL: it says its caused by jb2/sdb9-8. do you know what that is?
[17:34] <bahamas> alsuna: thanks
[17:34] <thauriswulfa> ghar pe
[17:34] <erUSUL> Memphizzz: is the filesystem ( ext4 ) log
[17:34] <edbian> bahamas, for what?
[17:34] <Memphizzz> erUSUL: how can i stop him? or will he stop automatically?
[17:34] <cheshire_fox> BluesKaj: It's not the screen.  If I run in a purely terminal environ,  I can use the main monitor.
[17:35] <cheshire_fox> BluesKaj: I know its the chipset, I'm dead sure of it
[17:35] <erUSUL> Memphizzz: so no userspace process. keep watching iotop the process cousing the io should show up as well
[17:35] <alsuna> bahamas: but be careful, that PPA will give you all the daily builds. so you also get non-release-builds
[17:35] <BluesKaj> ok cheshire_fox , gotcha
[17:35] <erUSUL> Memphizzz: it will stop automatically
[17:35] <bahamas> alsuna: hmm, ok. i guess i might as well use this version of mercurial for now.
[17:35] <Memphizzz> erUSUL:  disk write with around 100 K/s is gconfd-2
[17:36] <cheshire_fox> BluesKaj: But I'm just curious if removing nouveau will set me up to run the VESA driver.
[17:36] <stimpie> I just tried installing the natty beta and got an error  Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1), how to see more details?
[17:37] <egarff> stimpie I solved that by not having it download updates or install the 3rd party during install.
[17:37] <sacarlson> cheshire_fox: you should be able to create a /etc/xorg.conf file to force the use of the vesa driver
[17:37] <alsuna> bahamas: sorry, forget all i said, i mixed up names. that ppa is banshee and not mercurial. sorry.
[17:38] <cheshire_fox> sacarlson: Yeah, but I'm being lazy.
[17:38] <egarff> stimpie: you can then install the updates and 3rd party stuff after it's up.
[17:38] <ohsix> stimpie: the process opens logs in /var/log/dist-upgrade you can check, or watch while it's doing an upgrade
[17:38] <Memphizzz> erUSUL: i thing i figured it out. looks like its compiz.. i might have to start it using --replace
[17:38] <stimpie> egarff: ok thanks lets try
[17:39] <erUSUL> Memphizzz: do not see why compiz would generate much I/O
[17:40] <Memphizzz> erUSUL: after killing it it stopped..
[17:40] <erUSUL> Memphizzz: ok; may be a weird bug
[17:40] <sacarlson> cheshire_fox: here is an example but I also know there is a command line that will create the default xorg.conf that can be modified to look more like this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1270209
[17:42] <GatunoRox> I need help configuring my USB HDD so it will run on any pc, as my grub doesn't seem to react well when I exchange computers
[17:42] <rcmaehl> What is FVWM-CrystaL?
[17:42] <Memphizzz> erUSUL: confirmed. rebooted. kill compiz. io activity stopped.
[17:42] <bahamas> alsuna: yeah, i was confused about why i couldn't find mercurial in that list, but i thought that you knew something that i didn't :)
[17:42] <erUSUL> rcmaehl: a "theme" for fvwm ( a window manager )
[17:43] <rcmaehl> erUSUL: How is fvwm as fast as lxde?
[17:43] <sacarlson> GatunoRox: you mean make your usb drive boot all computers?  that may not always be posible depending on bios support
[17:43] <erUSUL> rcmaehl: dunno; have not used them
[17:44] <erUSUL> rcmaehl: but lxde is more than just a wm
[17:44] <Memphizzz> is there a way to kill a process by name?
[17:44] <cheshire_fox> sacarlson: What I'll do is just look at the xorg conf when I get home.  I have already removed it, thus allowing me to suddenly have a graphical environment.  It urked me that I had no idea what driver it was running and at the time I had no time to read xorg.conf.  I was just curious if someone knew if removing the driver would force X to run the VESA driver instead.
[17:44] <sacarlson> Memphizzz: sudo killall nameofproc
[17:44] <cheshire_fox> it == nouveau
[17:45] <sacarlson> cheshire_fox: by default there is no xorg.conf file you need to create one if needed
[17:45] <GatunoRox> sacarlson: I'm aware that it depends on the bios, but that's not the case
[17:45] <rcmaehl> You guys have to try FVWM-Crystal. It's like... actually it's not like anything
[17:45] <rcmaehl> It's just unique
[17:45] <GatunoRox> the computers I'm testing are usb bootable
[17:45] <John___> Hey I need help with a broadcom wireless driver
[17:46] <Memphizzz> sacarlson: thanks'!
[17:46] <erUSUL> !broadcom | John___
[17:46] <cheshire_fox> sacarlson: What ever.  I'll figure it out later.  I'm not getting th answer I'm asking for and it's a fairly simple question.
[17:46] <cheshire_fox> oh well
[17:46] <sacarlson> cheshire_fox: I'm not sure of the sequence but nvidia has about 3 or more posible drivers it will try at boot if it can't find one of them
[17:46] <GatunoRox> the problem is, whenever I exchange PC's, device mapping changes and Grub will not load propperly, rendering grub rescue
[17:47] <njin> hello, looking at Dmesg does [ 17.240015] mean 17 seconds and... or what?
[17:47] <erUSUL> njin: probably
[17:48] <njin> erUSUL: thanks
[17:48] <aussa> hi, here is what i want, i want to have install in my laptop ubuntu only, and want to have windows in a virtual machine, my question is, can in install video and audio drivers in a virtual machine?
[17:49] <mindware> njin:  exactly
[17:49] <John___> That didnt help. I need b43 so that i can use monitor mode
[17:49] <Maimster> How's everyone doing?
[17:49] <sacarlson> GatunoRox: I have noticed that on some system a usb disk will be seen as sda on one system and sdb on another, I guess  you can create two or more grub entry that will boot manualy when needed if it changes
[17:49] <erUSUL> aussa: yes; but those drivers would be for the hardware the virtual machine emulates not the real hardware you have
[17:49] <mindware> aussa : your virtual machine has standard stuff..so the drivers are already in windows..
[17:50] <aussa> ok, so I can't take advantage of my video card in the virtual machine?
[17:50] <howl_> when you install it, it should be ready, since they devices on the virtual machine are not hardware by default
[17:50] <erUSUL> aussa: gaming in a virtual machine a no go afaik
[17:50] <mindware> any help on installing a toolchain for ARM copiling on ubuntu 10.10 ?
[17:51] <sacarlson> aussa: I've never been able to but there might be a way, I never looked into it
[17:51] <trichard> hey is there a way to import itunes podcasts in banshee?
[17:51] <ikonia> mindware: whats the issue ?
[17:51] <erUSUL> !info scratchbox2
[17:52] <mindware> ikonia: I want to build some stuff for an ARM  architecture..
[17:52] <aussa> what do I need to install windows in a virtual machine?
[17:52] <sacarlson> aussa: a iso or cd to install windows
[17:52] <milamber> mindware: http://hri.sourceforge.net/tools/arm-elf-gcc.html
[17:52] <GatunoRox> sacarlson: They're identified using UUIDs, so it doesn't seem the problem, it seem as it always search for (hd0,0) instead, which on other computers is seen as (fd0,0) or (hd1,0)
[17:52] <mindware> aussa Try VirtualBox :)
[17:52] <ikonia> mindware: ok, so what's the problem
[17:53] <erUSUL> mindware: https://balau82.wordpress.com/2010/12/05/using-ubuntu-arm-cross-compiler-for-bare-metal-programming/
[17:53] <aussa> ok, and if windows came pre installed in my laptop...?
[17:53] <GatunoRox> rendering grub stage2 unreachable
[17:54] <mindware> ikonia: sorry for not mentioning in last post. Apparently , I could not find in the repos the package of symlinks needed for a arm crosscompilation....
[17:54] <ikonia> mindware: you could look at the links erUSUL gave you, or set it up yourself
[17:54] <mindware> Thank you very much! It's a good starting point for me :)
[17:54] <sacarlson> GatunoRox: well then create a grub entry for each of those posible (fd0,0) (hd1,0) ... with all those hopfully a limited number of posiblilities
[17:55] <Emerix> Anyone free to answer a networking question?
[17:55] <GatunoRox> sacarlson: how can I do thar?
[17:55] <ikonia> Emerix: you have to ask it for people to respond
[17:55] <erUSUL> !anyone | Emerix
[17:56] <sacarlson> Emerix: with 1579 people to see there is always a good posibility someone might know
[17:56] <Maimster> True.
[17:56] <bob__119> 1583
[17:56] <Emerix> I just bought a eee laptop, installed ubuntu on it, and my wireless nor ethernet works. Whenever I plug in the ethernet, it will work for two seconds, then proceed to say I'm disconnected.
[17:57] <sacarlson> GatunoRox: you can create custom menu entries you can add I'm not sure about your the location of the line you want
[17:58] <Guest97127> I want to implement a simulation of  car parking system using atmega8 microcontroller..Any one please help me with the related discussions
[17:58] <rcmaehl> HOLY !@#$ FVWM is only using less than 128MB of RAM, that like blows lxdm out of the water
[17:58] <ikonia> rcmaehl: control the language
[17:58] <the_godf1ther> жопа
[17:58] <ikonia> rcmaehl: if you have to star out a word, don't use it
[17:59] <xiamx> what desktop search / text indexer tool can I use on ubuntu?
[17:59] <Guest97127> I want to implement a simulation of  car parking system using atmega8 microcontroller..Any one please help me with the related discussions
[17:59] <Belial`> haha
[17:59] <Belial`> that's pretty funny.
[17:59] <ikonia> Guest97127: do you want to do this on ubuntu ?
[17:59] <rcmaehl> Well I self filter my language by not filtering my language and setting up my autoreplace to filter it for me
[17:59] <ikonia> Belial`: ?
[17:59] <the_godf1ther> fuck
[17:59] <the_godf1ther> exit
[18:00] <Guest97127> please help me ...
[18:00] <home23> no help me
[18:00] <ikonia> rcmaehl: I'll tell you as you didn't get the reqeust, control your language
[18:00] <edbian> Guest97127, Just state your problem and people will help you if they can.
[18:00] <ikonia> Guest97127: do you want to use this device on ubuntu ?
[18:00] <sacarlson> GatunoRox: this may not be the best example but all I could find in short notice http://zorin-os.webs.com/apps/forums/topics/show/3284895-creating-custom-menu-entry-in-grub-2-boot-loader
[18:00] <edbian> Guest97127, Oh, I see your questions up there.   That has nothing to do with Ubuntu.
[18:01] <rcmaehl> ok
[18:01] <Belial`> now you're back talking!
[18:01] <Belial`> don't sass either
[18:01] <ikonia> Belial`: do you have an ubuntu support question ?
[18:01] <Belial`> no
[18:02] <ikonia> Belial`: then please don't make random comments to provoke a situation
[18:02] <Belial`> yes sir
[18:02] <ikonia> thanks
[18:02] <Belial`> no problem, sir
[18:02] <anthony_> anyone have any luck getting jffnms working?  after setup I just get forwarded to http://jffnms/jffnms/view_performance.php (virtual host set up by me) which contains the text "Error: No Interface Graphs were returned."  I want to use it to monitor my consumer grade router traffic using snmp
[18:02] <Belial`> won't happen again
[18:02] <ikonia> Belial`: not a problem
[18:03] <MuH4hA> Guest97127: Maybe ask in #avr ?
[18:04] <[eXception]> hi
[18:05] <[eXception]> I have a problem with my W-Lan. From time to time it sleeps away... I have to restart the interface or wait a long long time until I can continue surfing in internet....
[18:05] <anthony_> anyone have any luck getting jffnms working?  after setup I just get forwarded to http://jffnms/jffnms/view_performance.php (virtual host set up by me) which contains the text "Error: No Interface Graphs were returned."  I want to use it to monitor my consumer grade router traffic using snmp
[18:05] <GatunoRox> sacarlson: the problem is not stage2 itself, but the way grub searches for it
[18:05] <perlmonkey> whats the deal with openshot 1.2.2.. i upgraded and its TOTALLY messed up..all kinds of weird stuff
[18:05] <sacarlson> anthony_  I'm not sure what results your looking for but I use cacti to monitor trafic from snmp of my routers
[18:06] <GatunoRox> the loader on the MBR points to stage 2 on (hd0,0)
[18:06] <sacarlson> GatunoRox: stage2?  must run grub legacy?  you running grub2?
[18:06] <GatunoRox> grub2
[18:06] <cnphilison> african around
[18:06] <bunower> hello, i have Macbook, i had MacOS and Ubuntu same time, then i needed Windows for University, and i installed Windows in a partition, but after that i could not boot ubuntu, if i repair grub2 i cannot boot windows
[18:07] <rcmaehl> bunower: sudo update-grub2
[18:07] <cnphilison> looking for someone to chat
[18:07] <rcmaehl> cnphilison: Question?
[18:07] <Emerix> My network card is 'unclaimed', how would I go about installing the driver without an internet connection?
[18:07] <ikonia> cnphilison: try #defocus for chat
[18:07] <rcmaehl> Emerix: modprobe
[18:07] <GatunoRox> whenever I try booting on another PC, (hd0,0) is another HD, rendering grub unable to find stage2
[18:07] <perlmonkey> bugs galore in openshot 1.2.2 :(
[18:07] <sacarlson> GatunoRox: not sure but did you see the line set root='(hd0,1)'  maybe have a few menu with different root =
[18:08] <Guest72561> Just wondering what you all thought of my recent partition setup.... /dev/sda is partitioned to 1 ext4 250G, this is my ubuntu 10.10 install and "working drive". /dev/sdb is 1 ext4 that is nearly 1tb, this is my "data" drive. /dev/sdc has a 20gb swap partition, along with roughly a 120gb "backup" drive. I figured putting the swap on a different disk than my boot drive would perhaps increase performance when doing things with video ed
[18:08] <sacarlson> GatunoRox: then if it fails on the default then try the others that might work
[18:08] <GatunoRox> that's inside grub.cfg, right?
[18:08] <mehdi> hey guys how can i install Gnome 3?
[18:08] <snakeofchrist> i love me some chitlins
[18:08] <rcmaehl> mehdi: sudo apt-get install gnome3
[18:09] <ikonia> Guest72561: won't make a noticable difference
[18:09] <GatunoRox> my proble is that grub stops before showing stage2 with the menu entries of grub.cfg
[18:09] <anthony_> sacarlson, thanks mate will give that a try instead.  all I want is to find out why my parent's internet is so damn slow
[18:09] <ikonia> mehdi: where are no official gnome 3 packages
[18:09] <[eXception]> can anyone help me?
[18:09] <rcmaehl> mehdi: sudo apt-get install gnome3-session
[18:09] <Guest72561> ikonia: Oh...ok. Well this is just the first time I've had 3 sata drives so I figured I'd make it interesting.....;)
[18:09] <rcmaehl> ikonia: yes there is
[18:09] <rcmaehl> ikonia: gnome3-session
[18:09] <ikonia> rcmaehl: if you look, it's not a full gnome 3 setup
[18:09] <rcmaehl> only gnome3 pacakge out
[18:09] <Psyclone> my external hard drive keeps mounting under different name, is there a way that i can get it to mount under the same name every time
[18:10] <ikonia> the only full gnome 3 setup is in a ppa
[18:10] <bob__119> isn't gnome 3 what comes with the natty beta release?
[18:10] <rcmaehl> ikonia: ppa please?
[18:10] <syn-ack> mehdi, Also, keep in mind that if you install Gnome 3 you WILL break Unity.
[18:10] <syn-ack> bob__119, No.
[18:10] <ikonia> rcmaehl: personal package archive
[18:10] <sacarlson> anthony_: to find out why a net is slow it's best to check dns lookup first then bandwidth
[18:10] <Guest72561> So, gnome 3, is it stable enough for a work environment? I know when kde4 came out it was quite buggy.
[18:10] <UncombedCoconut> Hm. The Ubuntu UX in case of a disk failure is painful and cryptic. Yet this experience shouldn't be that pleasant anyway. Is it even worth filing a bug / brainstorm?
[18:10] <rcmaehl> ikonia: no the ppa: so I can add it
[18:11] <rcmaehl> plz
[18:11] <anthony_> sacarlson, dns is fine.  using opendns
[18:11] <snakeofchrist> kde4 still is quite buggy
[18:11] <benzaldehyde> Guest72561: I think you have too much swap space. the recommendations are usually a 2:1 RAM to swap ration on desktop and 1:1 when dealing with systems that have 4 GB or morre of RAM
[18:11] <bob__119> syn-ack: thanks, I do not like the one with 11.04 beta
[18:11] <mehdi> @<syn-ack>y?
[18:11] <sacarlson> anthony_: there is also some people that have problems with MTU  settings if made a bit smaller like 1400 can improve things in rare cases
[18:11] <syn-ack> mehdi, Come again?
[18:11] <mehdi> @<rcmaehl>and how can i run it in gnome 3 mod?
[18:12] <Guest72561> benzaldehyde: Well I have 16g of ram....ok maybe not. But I do plan on 16g in my upcoming build. So should I reduce the swap to about 4096MB?
[18:12] <anthony_> sacarlson, yeah not tried that.  couldn't see how to do it easily with their router
[18:12] <benzaldehyde> Guest72561: sorry i meant 1:1 when dealing with servers but that last bit about the >  4 GB applies to both server and desktop
[18:12] <sacarlson> anthony_: opendns is sometimes a solution but also sometimes a problem, only way to tell it to test
[18:12] <Guest72561> benzaldehyde: I have 4 GB of ram.
[18:12] <benzaldehyde> Guest72561: at the mostt you ought to have 4 GB of swap for a server setup IMO
[18:12] <rcmaehl> mehdi: open terminal and run gnome3-session
[18:13] <Guest72561> snakeofchrist: But what about gnome3? Is it pretty good performance wise?
[18:13] <mehdi> ok
[18:13] <anthony_> sacarlson, you know any good alternatives to opendns?
[18:13] <Guest72561> benzaldehyde: Wel this is a workstation
[18:13] <snakeofchrist> i couldn't tell you that
[18:13] <sacarlson> anthony_: bind9
[18:13] <syn-ack> Guest72561, It's actually quite a bit slower than Unity
[18:13] <snakeofchrist> ah shit
[18:13] <snakeofchrist> then it
[18:13] <snakeofchrist> then it's real slow
[18:13] <Guest72561> syn-ack: Unity....is that the thing integrated in 11.04?
[18:13] <Abhijit> hi
[18:13] <syn-ack> yes
[18:14] <Guest72561> syn-ack: So you are suggesting that I avoid gnome3 if I am soley looking for something with good performance?
[18:14] <syn-ack> yes
[18:14] <sacarlson> anthony_: also setup of dhcp so that they have fallback on failure of a dns can at least get things working even if slow
[18:14] <syn-ack> until it's stable, at least.
[18:14] <benzaldehyde> Guest72561: i only do fluxbox personally
[18:15] <snakeofchrist> well you can call me diiirrrttyyy and then lift up your skirt
[18:15] <umago> hey u guys im having this problem http://pastebin.com/DLFKmGQq when trying to get some informations from udisks-daemon
[18:15] <sacarlson> anthony_: tools to test dns would be dig and ping
[18:15] <mehdi> hey guys i come with Gnome 3 and sb mentioned that i break unity wat is it dat mean literally?
[18:15] <umago> i already googled, and compared the /usr/share/dbus-1/system-services/org.freedesktop.UDisks.service and /etc/dbus-1/system.d/org.freedesktop.UDisks.conf with others
[18:16] <umago> and it seems to be fine... i can pastebin em if needed
[18:16] <umago> someone have any idea whats going on?
[18:16] <umago> im just trying run this simple example on a ubutntu 10.10 machine
[18:16] <umago> its a simple example... http://pastebin.com/Sa6kuGWA
[18:16] <syn-ack> mehdi, It means that if you install Gnome3, you will break Unity.
[18:16] <anthony_> sacarlson, I'm pretty sure dns is fine
[18:16] <Belial`> if you're going to install gnome 3
[18:16] <anthony_> they live in the country
[18:16] <Belial`> use a different installation
[18:16] <mehdi> i dont get it wat it means actually?
[18:17] <timroes> hei is there any shortcut to open the network manager menu (that normally shows when you click on the icon in the systray) (Ubuntu 10.10)?
[18:17] <benzaldehyde> Guest72561: a workstation i would only go 2 GB
[18:17] <sacarlson> anthony_: well maybe it's just the ISP or just the site they are looking at,  not all sites are fast
[18:17] <anthony_> sacarlson, > 2.5 km from exchange, which is crap in itself, but occasioanly the internet is so slow it's un usable
[18:17] <syn-ack> mehdi, It means that you'll be upgrading libs upon which unity is dependent, and therefore it will break unity
[18:17] <anthony_> sacarlson, true, true
[18:17] <Kawohi> How do I add the Global Menu to Ubuntu?
[18:17] <Guest72561> So I tried 11.04 last night, 64bit, and it wouldn't boot and didn't even install correctly. My only question is to others is how it is looking performance wise. Is it something I should get excited about the release, or is it something I should wait a few months after the release to allow it to become better performance wise?
[18:17] <anthony_> I keep telling them to change
[18:17] <umago> nobody has any idea?
[18:18] <s5fs> Is 11.04 stable enough for a production workstation?
[18:18] <Abhijit> s5fs, np
[18:18] <Abhijit> no
[18:18] <anthony_> sacarlson, they're also adamant that when the neighbours are in across the river, the speed goes down.  this doesn't sound likely to me but I just don't know
[18:18] <s5fs> Abhijit: Cool, thanks!
[18:18] <wrecked> depends on what you consider "stable enough" i think :P
[18:18] <mehdi> i dont get it sync
[18:19] <syn-ack> s5fs, I think it is, for the most part
[18:19] <sacarlson> anthony_: I run an ISP and I get complaints all the time, but when I go to check them I find 75% of the time it's just the site they looked at and only at certain times of day
[18:19] <s5fs> syn-ack: Define "for the most part", ie, where would I feel the most pain?
[18:19] <wrecked> i would agree with syn... ive been using it for about a week now, and most issues are very minor.. and improvements every day
[18:19] <Abhijit> !11.04
[18:19] <Kawohi> how to install? http://code.google.com/p/gnome2-globalmenu/downloads/list
[18:20] <snakeofchrist> Kawohi, google "gnome global menu ppa" find the search result to webupd8
[18:20] <snakeofchrist> install with their ppa
[18:20] <sacarlson> anthony_: oh or they run windows and have there virus update use all the bandwidth
[18:20] <Dinliani> re guys
[18:20] <snakeofchrist> then right click the gnome panel and add the global menu to it
[18:20] <snakeofchrist> then log in/out of x
[18:20] <Dinliani> i just generate a class diagram into .cld format
[18:20] <Dinliani> how to convert it into jpg?
[18:21] <syn-ack> s5fs, No where, really. it's all minor things at this time
[18:21] <anthony_> sacarlson, that's what I'm trying to find out!
[18:21] <anthony_> sacarlson, I don't think there's any problem there, but until I can see the router traffic I don't know
[18:21] <Memphizzz> how can i see which partitions grub is currently active if i have more than 1 linux distro installed?
[18:21] <wrecked> s5fs: i find a lot of minor graphics glitchs/annoyances mostly.. nothing showstopping
[18:22] <hiexpo> Dinliani, did you try covert command
[18:22] <anthony_> sacarlson, I just want to rule that out before I get in touch with the ISP
[18:22] <sacarlson> anthony_: for that you need to route through your linux and see the trafic with wireshark to get an idea what the trafic is like trogins virus....
[18:22] <MN--> hello
[18:22] <anthony_> sacarlson, could I not use cacti for this?
[18:22] <sacarlson> anthony_: no it won't detect the type of trafic only how much at what time
[18:22] <timroes> hei is there any shortcut to open the network manager menu (that normally shows when you click on the icon in the systray) (Ubuntu 10.10)?
[18:22] <MN--> is this the right channel on how to install ubujtu?
[18:22] <MN--> *ubuntu
[18:23] <Abhijit> MN--, yes
[18:23] <s5fs> Good to know. I will probably hold off a bit until after the release date, see how things shake out. I'm still a bit weirded by Unity, I played with gnome-shell but that's it so far.
[18:23] <ikonia> !install | MN--
[18:23] <anthony_> sacarlson, well that'd do.  I know what's supposed to be happening on each machine, then I can compare it with what cacti shows up
[18:23] <joujou> hi
[18:23] <Memphizzz> how can i see which partitions grub is currently active if i have more than 1 linux distro installed?
[18:24] <Kawohi> snakeofchrist, what do I out in user add-apt-repository ppa:user/ppa-name
[18:24] <Kawohi> put*
[18:25] <sacarlson> Memphizzz: at boot you can hold shift and see the menu of what grub has detected as bootable since last update
[18:25] <snakeofchrist> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:user/ppa-name then sudo apt-get update && apt-get install globalmenu
[18:26] <cyphase> this is the second time recently i've woken up to find myself logged out..
[18:26] <Memphizzz> sacarlson: i have the menu with multiple linux distros i can choose from. i just want to know which distros grub is the one that i see
[18:27] <MN--> okay im just wondering can i install ubuntu 10.10 netbook edition on a dell latitude c640
[18:27] <atlef> MN--: should be no problem
[18:28] <sacarlson> Memphizzz: the destro you see when grub boots as default?  I don't understand that
[18:28] <MN--> thank you :) 20gb isnt really enough is it
[18:28] <GOMI> anybody knows how to fix login problem , i get kicked out every time while working ?
[18:28] <sacarlson> Memphizzz: grub is not a destro it can boot many different destro
[18:28] <GOMI> kicked out to login screen SO i need to login again..
[18:28] <frybye> re: is there some way I can avoid the whole "ownership" question when i want to share stuff via my ftp server with a friend.. some way to have the ownsership automatically opend up for everyone or for this ftpuser when I put this stuff in his ftp home directory..?
[18:28] <Memphizzz> sacarlson: i installed multiple linux distros. each of the installed grub. i dont know which one ive installed least and i want to figure out which ones grub is the active one
[18:29] <atlef> MN--: it depends on your needs
[18:29] <sacarlson> Memphizzz: they are all active that are on the list,  one will be the default
[18:29] <Memphizzz> sacarlson: but which ones /boot/grub/custom_menu.cfg is used?
[18:29] <GOMI> back again
[18:30] <MN--> okay thank you bye
[18:30] <sacarlson> Memphizzz: you want to make a custom grub entry?  those will be added to the grub menu if added
[18:30] <bullgard4> What boot messages come into /var/log/boot.log and what boot messages do not?
[18:31] <Dinliani> gnome paint
[18:31] <Dinliani> = mega shit
[18:31] <IdleOne> !language | Dinliani
[18:31] <mrstocks> hey i would like to divert the sound into a application where i can up the bass or something ... sort of a brige anyone know?
[18:31] <Memphizzz> sacarlson: yes i know. but i created custom entries in at least 2 distros.. know i dont know which one is being used.
[18:31] <mrstocks> i just want to the control my sound!
[18:32] <Vimk> Not getting any sound in any game or emulator on 10.10, anyone have an idea?
[18:32] <frybye> bullgard4: hi again - any tips with this ownship re ftp stuff?
[18:32] <coe> hai all....
[18:32] <coe> am back for one question, am need used my Desktop effect, and am have used lenovo G460, anybadoy can help me.!
[18:32] <bullgard4> frybye: I forgot your exact question. Please repeat it.
[18:33] <os4> hi i want to install the package of backtrack on ubuntu 10.10??
[18:33] <coe> ikonia, hai... are you still busy?
[18:33] <Oatmeal> Can anyone help me with a problem I have with a new SATA hard drive, or bios setting?
[18:33] <coe> os4, backtrack package like what ?
[18:34] <frybye> bullgard4: re: is there some way I can avoid the whole "ownership" question when i want to share stuff via my ftp server with a friend.. some way to have the ownsership automatically opend up for everyone or for this ftpuser when I put this stuff in his ftp home directory..?
[18:34] <unomystEz> anyone know if the nouveau driver is statically linked in the kernel for 10.10?
[18:34] <unomystEz> I have a quadro card and it freezes upon bootup
[18:34] <unomystEz> not sure how to disable it
[18:34] <os4> bruteforce cisco
[18:34] <os4> ......
[18:34] <bullgard4> os4: There is no "backtrack" package in Ubuntu 10.10.
[18:34] <Kawohi> Okay after that, what next? https://launchpad.net/~globalmenu-team/+archive/ppa
[18:35] <superkiwi> Hi, I am trying to install ubuntu alongside a existing windows 7 installation. The problem is that whenever I boot into Ubuntu, my network adapter seems to turn off. I need to take the power cable out and wait a few seconds, and then I can boot into windows again with network on. If I don't do this, networking suddenly does not work in Windows either. Do you know if Windows is disabling the network adapter when turning off, or is Ubuntu do
[18:35] <superkiwi> something with my network adapter? THe ethernet adapter is on the motherboard.
[18:35] <hiexpo> !backtrack | os4
[18:35] <nyuszika7h> Hi! I've installed apache2, php5 and mysql-server, now where can I place my .php files?
[18:35] <Oatmeal> Can anyone help me with a problem I have with a new SATA hard drive, or bios setting?
[18:36] <as2000> @superwiki - the problem is that windows thingy!
[18:36] <erUSUL> !anyone | Oatmeal
[18:36] <coe> nyuszika7h, /var/www
[18:36] <superkiwi> as2000: Oh, the only solution is to get ridd of it? :X
[18:36] <Kawohi> aircrack-ng :)
[18:36] <os4> thank you ubottu
[18:36] <nyuszika7h> coe: thanks
[18:36] <nyuszika7h> os4: ubottu is a bot >_>
[18:36] <as2000> superwiki: :D
[18:36] <oCean> nyuszika7h: usually /var/www, see /etc/apache2/sites-available/000-default for your webroot
[18:36] <coe> nyuszika7h, welcome...
[18:37] <os4> :)
[18:37] <coe> os4, am have sand pm for you ) check and test it, that be great. and dont say backtrack on this chanel oke
[18:38] <os4> why
[18:38] <os4> ??
[18:38] <Oatmeal> I installed a new hard drive yesterday after my old one crashed. The old  one was SATA and so i this new one, however the power connector is different. Anyways, this new one boots up REALLY slow, and after it gets to the OS starting animation, it reboots. Help please?
[18:38] <coe> os4, this is ubuntu chanell not backtrack channel
[18:38] <os4> ah ok !?
[18:38] <bullgard4> frybye: I doubt that you shluld disregard the "ownership" question if you want to share stuff on your FTP server with a friend. It is very likely that evil users will be able to abuse your computer for malicious purposes.
[18:38] <spid3rnet> help how to get python 2.6
[18:39] <coe> os4, if you need to be include the backtrack packed you need try my link that is good ide just that, or you banned on this channel :)
[18:39] <sss314> Can someone please explain what's the difference between administor account and normal account, if I still need to use a password to perform system task even when I am logged in as administor, and I can also perform system tasks using a password when I'm logged in as normal user?! thanks
[18:39] <bullgard4> s/shluld/should/
[18:39] <os4> send the link
[18:39] <spid3rnet> i have 2.5 but now i need 2.6 how to update
[18:39] <coe> and,... all, am need fix my vga am used lenovo G460 and body can  help
[18:39] <bito> t
[18:39] <nyuszika7h> coe: And how can I delete files in it? 'Move to Trash' is grayed out, probably because it needs root rights.
[18:39] <Pici> coe, os4: #backtrack-linux is their channel, please use that instead of here.
[18:40] <coe> Pici,  oke brotha.. am understand
[18:40] <os4> :):):):)
[18:40] <spid3rnet> coe
[18:40] <nyuszika7h> spid3rnet: sudo apt-get install python # it will update Python
[18:40] <Kawohi> help! apt-get update... Media change: please insert the disc labeled
[18:40] <Kawohi>  'Ubuntu 10.10 _Maverick Meerkat_ - Release i386 (20101007)'
[18:40] <Kawohi> in the drive '/cdrom/' and press enter
[18:40] <coe> nyuszika7h, sudo rm -r /var/www/ <file>
[18:40] <coe> spid3rnet, yes
[18:40] <Kawohi> the disc is in it tho
[18:40] <spid3rnet> i m user of backtrack to
[18:40] <nyuszika7h> coe: thanks, couldn't find the command -- it's "del" or "delete" on Windows
[18:40] <Pici> spid3rnet: We do not support backtrack here. Please use their channel for support: #backtrack-linux
[18:40] <bullgard4> frybye: I would suggest that you and your friend install the (proprietary but free) program package "Team Viewer" on your computer and his computer.
[18:41] <spid3rnet> ok i got that
[18:41] <coe> nyuszika7h, what you mean, are you want to del /var/www ?
[18:41] <coe> nyuszika7h, or alse
[18:41] <frybye> bullgard4: he is running win7 - will that work..?
[18:42] <bullgard4> frybye: Yes.
[18:42] <leverpostej_> So: Renoise + Ubuntu. How?
[18:42] <frybye> great stuff - thaks a 10^6
[18:43] <nyuszika7h> coe: No, I wanted to delete index.html in it. Now, how do I save files in it? Do I need to run 'sudo gedit' every time? :/
[18:43] <GOMI> how to fix LOGIN guys
[18:43] <bcbc2> Kawohi: in update manager, click on settings and uncheck the box next to the cdrom (bottom of the Ubuntu software tab)
[18:43] <Oatmeal> I installed a new hard drive yesterday after my old one crashed. The old  one was SATA and so i this new one, however the power connector is different. Anyways, this new one boots up REALLY slow, and after it gets to the OS starting animation, it reboots. The computer wouldn't even recognize the hard drive when trying to install Ubuntu or Windows 7 from it, so I installed Windows 7 connecting it to another computer. The hdd shows up in
[18:43] <GOMI> it keeps re-LOGIN my system
[18:44] <AaeRohn> oi, I needs help installing a driver >.>
[18:44] <spid3rnet> nyuszika7h not working
[18:45] <nyuszika7h> spid3rnet: try 'sudo apt-get update python'
[18:45] <coe> nyuszika7h, you can used gui for edit index.html on you /var/www/index.html
[18:45] <coe> nyuszika7h, used sudo nautilus /var/www/
[18:46] <coe> nyuszika7h, and gui is open you can edti index.html with bluefish
[18:46] <rafii> Hey! Whats wrong with oracle VirtualBox 4.0.4 on ubuntu 10.10? When I go to any VM propeties in virtualbox, my X.org server was crashed.. all is up-to-date, I reinstall virtualbox with and wihout deleting config files, and nothing.. It's bug in virtualbox or X.org?
[18:46] <spid3rnet> nyuszika7h not working too
[18:46] <mehdi> hey guys is it possible to have diffrent wllpaper in diffrent workspaces?
[18:46] <nyuszika7h> coe: thx, btw I'm using gedit not bluefish
[18:46] <oCean> coe: nyuszika7h you have to use gksudo, not sudo when using graphical applications
[18:47] <Kawohi> bcbc2, I don't see checkbox or a CDrom // on 10.10
[18:47] <lolmatic> hi
[18:47] <AaeRohn> I have an Adobe Vistablet, and I need to install a driver for it, but I don't know how to install a non-standard driver, much less which one to get
[18:47] <lolmatic> i just installed and configured squid but there is no init script :(
[18:47] <coe> oCean, mean ?
[18:47] <spid3rnet> no help plzzzz
[18:48] <nyuszika7h> spid3rnet: sudo apt-get remove python && sudo apt-get install python
[18:48] <oCean> spid3rnet: what version are you using
[18:48] <bcbc2> Kawohi: Update Manager, Settings, click on 'Ubuntu software' tab, look on the bottom. What do you see?
[18:48] <oCean> coe: exactly what is says. gksudo for graphical applications
[18:48] <nyuszika7h> oCean: 19:38 < spid3rnet> i have 2.5 but now i need 2.6 how to update
[18:48] <oCean> nyuszika7h: what ubuntu version
[18:48] <milamber> !gksu | coe, nyuszika7h
[18:48] <spid3rnet> 2.5
[18:49] <spid3rnet> oCean
[18:49] <oCean> spid3rnet: what ubuntu version ubuntu, not python
[18:49] <moes> mehdi, Are you running compiz
[18:49] <mehdi> yea
[18:50] <moes> mehdi, Just a second I will give you a workaround url
[18:50] <spid3rnet> 10.08
[18:50] <mehdi> ok
[18:50] <nyuszika7h> spid3rnet: o_O 10.08?
[18:50] <coe> milamber oCean how to edit /var/www/index.html (gksudo gedit /var/www/index.html) and allways do gksudo gedit /var/www/index.html ?
[18:50] <oCean> spid3rnet: 8.10 ?
[18:50] <spid3rnet> mehdi wher are u from
[18:50] <coe> that you mean
[18:50] <spid3rnet> ya loooool
[18:50] <coe> oCean, that so hard for edit
[18:50] <Kawohi> bcbc2, nvm. did it. but can't. getting this error message: ----- E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[18:50] <Kawohi> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[18:51] <spid3rnet> ;
[18:51] <spid3rnet> hh
[18:51] <oCean> coe: I don't understand you
[18:51] <bcbc2> Kawohi: do you have synaptic or software centre open? close them first
[18:51] <milamber> coe: you are using bluefish right?
[18:51] <coe> Kawohi, sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/lock
[18:51] <nyuszika7h> oCean: sudoed gedit looks different than the normal
[18:51] <oCean> spid3rnet: 8.10 is no longer supported. you have to upgrade first
[18:51] <oCean> !8.10 | spid3rnet
[18:51] <mehdi> @<spid3rnet>wat for? im from iran
[18:51] <coe> oh no milamber
[18:51] <spid3rnet> nyuszika7h i guess u way is working
[18:51] <AaeRohn> Anybody? I have an Adobe Vistablet, and I need to install a driver for it, but I don't know how to install a non-standard driver
[18:52] <oCean> nyuszika7h: I really don't know what you are trying to do?
[18:52] <telemundo> ikonia rhymes with stankonia
[18:52] <nyuszika7h> oCean: save a file to /var/www/ from gedit
[18:52] <spid3rnet> i m from morrokko are muslm
[18:53] <milamber> coe: gksudo gedit <filename> is what you are looking for then
[18:53] <oCean> nyuszika7h: well, you can edit it somewhere else, then move it. Or you could also add your account to the www-data group, which is owner of all files
[18:53] <moes> mehdi, http://ubuntuguide.net/different-wallpapers-on-each-workspace-in-ubuntu
[18:53] <nyuszika7h> oCean: And how do I add it?
[18:53] <oCean> nyuszika7h: however, milamber's sugestion should work fine
[18:53] <mehdi> tanx moes
[18:53] <spid3rnet> mehdi are u muslim just because its a arbice name
[18:53] <oCean> spid3rnet: please stay on topic
[18:53] <nyuszika7h> milamber: I did that...
[18:53] <coe> milamber, that same like sudo gedit <filename>
[18:53] <AnubArack> My netbook can't enter suspend or hibernate. It says I don't have enough swap, but I do have 130% the ram worth of swap.
[18:53] <moes> mehdi, yw
[18:53] <oCean> coe: no. use gksudo, not sudo
[18:54] <spid3rnet> what waht rong
[18:54] <coe> oCean, what dedifrend sudo and gksudo for edit file
[18:54] <mehdi> @<spid3rnet>i use 2 be
[18:54] <h1ll37> on ubuntu 10.10 a logitech wireless mouse quits workign after about 10 minutes of working perfectly. If i plug in another mouse it works for another 10 mins then quits working also.
[18:54] <spid3rnet> nyuszika7h tnks
[18:54] <milamber> !gksu | coe
[18:54] <oCean> coe: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo
[18:55] <Kawohi> coe Thanks.
[18:55] <as2000> anyone know why my nvidia 7200 will not run 3d unity on natty?
[18:56] <atlef> |natty | as2000
[18:56] <erUSUL> as2000: ask in #ubuntu+1
[18:56] <coe> oke oke.... milamber oCean for command that no happend for me... nano /var/www/index.html or sudo geidt /var/www/index.html or gksudo /var/www/index.html is same
[18:56] <ak331> I have been trying to install ie4linux either using wine or playon linux and it istall with playonlinux but not in wine any help appreciated?
[18:56] <coe> Kawohi, welcome
[18:56] <Kawohi> wget is awesome. (new to ubuntu)
[18:56] <as2000> ah thx
[18:56] <telemundo> tell them unity blows while you're in there
[18:56] <coe> spid3rnet, what ..!
[18:56] <AaeRohn> am I even saying anything? or is this stuff invisible? >.>
[18:56] <h1ll37> anyone know anything about "the mice from hell" lol
[18:56] <Pici> telemundo: Do you have a support question?
[18:57] <Pici> !patience | AaeRohn
[18:57] <milamber> coe: sudo nano /var/www/index.html is fine. gksudo gedit /var/www/index.html is also fine.
[18:57] <moes> which extension with uname to use to get version of linux on computer
[18:57] <AaeRohn> I tried searching the databases, nothing helps...
[18:57] <erUSUL> moes: uname -r ?
[18:57] <AaeRohn> well, with what I've found anyway
[18:58]  * h1ll37 cries.
[18:58] <coe> milamber, how with sudo gedit /var/www/index.html is also fine ?
[18:58] <nyuszika7h> milamber: BUT sudoed gedit doesn't use the normal gedit's options
[18:58] <rumpe1> moes, lsb_release -r
[18:58] <coe> milamber, am have used sudo gedit /var/www/index.html for edit file on /var/www/ that still fine
[18:58] <spid3rnet> nooooooooooo
[18:58] <rumpe1> moes, ah... you meant the kernel...
[18:58] <coe> what the problem on that command
[18:58] <oCean> coe: read the link we send you
[18:58] <AnubArack> My netbook can't enter suspend or hibernate. It says I don't have enough swap, but I do have 130% the ram worth of swap.
[18:58] <oCean> coe: it *can* cause problems, since "sudo" does not set the correct environment
[18:58] <rumpe1> coe, and a bit dangerous...
[18:58] <h1ll37> Take that as a no
[18:59] <nyuszika7h> spid3rnet: ?
[18:59] <GOMI> OMG
[18:59] <GOMI> i did something stupid
[18:59] <erUSUL> AnubArack: do "free -m" paste the output in a pastebin
[18:59] <spid3rnet> ihave remove python to install a n new version now i cant install no version eroor now all my code and other tool all goon
[18:59] <erUSUL> !paste
[18:59] <oCean> spid3rnet: yes, removing python can do that
[18:59] <GOMI> i used a command , AND NOW I SEE    XUBUNTU  on my system ?!?!?!?
[18:59] <bullgard4> What is the name of the DEB program package of the X11 server?
[19:00] <rumpe1> GOMI, whats the problem?
[19:00] <nyuszika7h> GOMI: probably you used 'sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop'
[19:00] <coe> oCean, what link
[19:00] <GOMI> yes nyuszika
[19:00] <GOMI> what did i do ?!?!
[19:00] <moes> rumpe1, no I actually want to know if this is lucid maverick etc
[19:00] <coe> am used /clear on my xchat
[19:00] <oCean> coe: last time: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo
[19:00] <nyuszika7h> GOMI: nothing, you just installed another environment
[19:00] <erUSUL> GOMI: so what is so surprising about the result?
[19:00] <rumpe1> moes, then lsb_release -a
[19:00] <milamber> !info x11-common
[19:00] <nyuszika7h> GOMI: if you want to remove it, sudo apt-get remove xubuntu-desktop
[19:01] <spid3rnet> i have use this but   sudo apt-get remove paython
[19:01] <GOMI> well i had login problems and i found this command
[19:01] <s5fs> spid3rnet: Try installing python from source, it's not hard.
[19:01] <rumpe1> moes, or cat /etc/issue
[19:01] <coe> oCean, oh that link, am willopen it. but my vga not good, still bad, am used lenovo g460 can help for good ide for fixed it
[19:01] <lindsaymobil22> nyuszika7h, Removing xubuntu-desktop is just removing a meta-package
[19:01] <GOMI> is it different to what i used to had ??
[19:01] <AnubArack> erUSUL, http://paste.ubuntu.com/591817/
[19:01] <lindsaymobil22> nyuszika7h, Not the desktop
[19:01] <spid3rnet> but now when i type apt-get install python no downlaod
[19:01] <GOMI> is it bad ?
[19:01] <oCean> spid3rnet: your ubuntu version has run out of support. You have to upgrade anyway. Since you have removed python, you might as well do a reinstall
[19:02] <ak331> help with installing ie4linux?
[19:02] <rumpe1> GOMI, if you just installed it in addition to the other desktop-environments, you can simply choose in login-screen which one you want to use
[19:02] <spid3rnet> but the 8.10 version is the best
[19:02] <GOMI> hmmm
[19:02] <nyuszika7h> lol
[19:02] <h1ll37> Yeah whatever I'll just go install mint. If the problem continues they'll at least acknowledge me i think
[19:02] <moes> rumpe1, Thanks cat /etc/issue worked
[19:03] <lindsaymobil22> h1ll37, +1
[19:03] <GOMI> i just want my old one back.
[19:03] <nyuszika7h> oCean: "Or you could also  add your account to the www-data group, which is owner of all files
[19:03] <nyuszika7h> How do I do that?
[19:03] <nyuszika7h> GOMI: restart Ubuntu
[19:04] <nyuszika7h> I once installed 'kubuntu-desktop', and when I tried to remove it, it also removed 'ubuntu-desktop'... is that normal? o_O
[19:04] <spid3rnet> ok found me a best way before i download the 10.10
[19:04] <lindsaymobil22> nyuszika7h, Kubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop are metapackages, not the desktops
[19:04] <mjs> hi all...does anyone know how i can access a file from an .iso mounted via archive mounter?...i need to chmod a setup file for installation in wine?
[19:04] <MK`> Oh you can have multiple environments installed?
[19:04] <MK`> I didn't know that
[19:05] <nyuszika7h> !anyone | mjs
[19:05] <erUSUL> AnubArack: try with « echo -n disk | sudo tee /sys/power/state »
[19:05] <rumpe1> MK`, as much as you like ... and use them simultaniously, if you want/need to...
[19:05] <MK`> cool
[19:05] <coe> how we fix ubuntu vga lenovo g460 ha....
[19:06] <MK`> If I put /mnt as a separate partition, how big does it need to be?
[19:06] <rumpe1> MK`, indeed :D
[19:06] <spid3rnet> help guys
[19:06] <rumpe1> MK`, that wouldn't make any sense
[19:06] <rr0hit> coe: You mean an external monitor?
[19:06] <coe> no
[19:06] <coe> internal monitor
[19:06] <MK`> do /mnt and /media need to be on the / partition?
[19:06] <coe> Desktop effect can't run welll
[19:06] <rr0hit> coe: whats the problem
[19:06] <lucid_j> Is there any way to display the folders on nautilus as thumbnails, like in windows vista or 7?
[19:06] <coe> spid3rnet, what...
[19:07] <rumpe1> MK`, /mnt is usually used as mountpoint for external partitions...
[19:07] <AnubArack> erUSUL, black screen, only one like of text : [12344.1234]PM: Now enough free swap
[19:07] <MK`> yeah i know
[19:07] <coe> rr0hit, am need run desktop effect but can't
[19:07] <Cane> MK` mnt is usually a virtual directory or full of virtual mount points for other drives and devices, it can be 20mb if you want
[19:07] <GOMI> oeffff got it back to normal
[19:07] <MK`> ok
[19:07] <rr0hit> coe which graphics card?
[19:07] <MK`> Can I just make it the minimum partition size?
[19:07] <MK`> Since it's just a folder
[19:07] <coe> rr0hit, that because my driver vga not work well, am have used lenovo g460
[19:07] <Cane> yup, but wondering why you want to do that
[19:07] <rumpe1> MK`, it's a folder... not a partition
[19:07] <MK`> just curious
[19:08] <MK`> I know heh
[19:08] <xiamx> how can i force removing a package without removing the packages depending on it?
[19:08] <erUSUL> AnubArack: well; i dunno what is happening; you clearly does have enough swap
[19:08] <spid3rnet> oCean help
[19:08] <MK`> I mean if I theoretically put it on its own partition
[19:08] <coe> rr0hit, i think intel but not sure, am have used lenovo G460
[19:08] <Cane> you're creating a partition that links other partitions and drives together
[19:08] <MK`> does the same apply for /media?
[19:08] <Cane> check fstab for mount points MK`
[19:08] <rumpe1> MK`, i really don't get the meaning of the question ^^
[19:08] <MK`> it's ok, nvm :P
[19:09] <Jadi> Oo
[19:09] <erUSUL> hard to follow
[19:09] <erUSUL> !enter | MK`
[19:09] <Cane> but generally, yes /media is like /mnt
[19:09] <AnubArack> erUSUL, Might be an 11.04 beta2 bug (i know about #ubuntu+1 , but no one is there so I tried my luck here)
[19:09] <xangua1> AnubArack: ¬¬
[19:09] <rush__> hi
[19:10] <MK`> nvm :/
[19:10] <thauriswulfa> QUESTION: I have pentium 4, 512mb ram , is unity good for my system
[19:11] <mjs> hi all...how  can i access a file from an .iso mounted via archive mounter?...i need to chmod a setup file for installation in wine?
[19:11] <erUSUL> what would be the ratinale of having /media/ or /mnt/ in a separate partition? they do not hold any data only mount points
[19:11] <AnubArack> xangua, what? not all problems are build related. Maybe this was something easy to fix
[19:11] <coe> rr0hit, can you help
[19:11] <rr0hit> coe "lspci" command will tell you your graphics card
[19:11] <IdleOne> AnubArack: ALL 11.04 questions go to #ubuntu+1
[19:12] <Calinou> he said "(i know about #ubuntu+1 , but no one is there so I tried my luck here)"
[19:12] <MK`> I was just reading about having all the root folders on other partitions, like /tmp. I get it, my question about /mnt and /media was stupid, nevermind it..
[19:12] <GOMI> can i use this "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"  to try solve flickering screen & login problems   ??????
[19:12] <[snake]> Is there a way I can link keys on my keyboard to different functions in lmms? specifically I want to link something to the volume on one of my mixer channels.
[19:13] <dusf_> at some point today, possible after updates, i noticed that when i click on the ubuntu applications menu it highlights but no drop down panel appears, although places and system work fine. i have read that if i 'rm ~/.config/menus/applications.menu' it will fix it, but will i then lose all entires for wine etc?
[19:13] <lucid_j> Is there any way to display the folders on nautilus as thumbnails, like in windows vista or 7?
[19:13] <coe> rr0hit, http://paste.ubuntu.com/591820/
[19:13] <eveningsky> I'm building a program and the instructions included the following command: "export JOBS=2". What does this do?
[19:14] <erUSUL> MK`: all root folders make no sense it makes sense for things like /var /usr/ and /temp
[19:14] <erUSUL> !fhs | MK`
[19:14] <Cane> eveningsky export sets a veriable, in that case jobs=2
[19:14] <raven_> virtual box trying to install vbox 4 from the website but ubuntu tells me about conflicts to the installed 3.2 version...
[19:15] <erUSUL> raven_: remove/purge 3.2 first?
[19:15] <Cane> programs can read variables, and it might mean your compiler uses two jobs at once, maybe to help on dual cpu systems.. what is it you're following?
[19:15] <atlef> raven_: remove the 3.2 version before installing 4.0.4
[19:15] <eveningsky> cane, I'm installing a local version of node.js
[19:16] <rr0hit> coe : I had a similar proble with nvidia driver. I fixed it using nvidia control centre. no idea abt ur problem
[19:16] <Cane> eveningsky export JOBS=2 # optional, sets number of parallel commands
[19:16] <coe> rr0hit, are you have solution ?
[19:16] <eveningsky> yeah
[19:16] <raven_> atlef, how to list the name of the installed package
[19:16] <dusf_> at some point today, possible after updates, i noticed that when i click on the ubuntu applications menu it highlights but no drop down panel appears, although places and system work fine. i have read that if i 'rm ~/.config/menus/applications.menu' it will fix it, but will i then lose all entires for wine etc?
[19:17] <eveningsky> cane, i couldn't really understand the comment without really understanding export
[19:17] <atlef> raven_: just remove it in synaptic packagemanager
[19:17] <eveningsky> cane i say JOBS=3 ?
[19:17] <raven_> atlef, ok tnx
[19:17] <eveningsky> what would be the effect?
[19:18] <Cane> the effect would be JOBS is set to 3. node.js will read JOBS and run 3 commands at once
[19:18] <coe> rr0hit,
[19:19] <eveningsky> is that a common variable? or something they come up with in their build script?
[19:19] <ttone> f
[19:19] <unomystEz> how can I enable full verbosity when the kernel boots?
[19:19] <unomystEz> ubuntu will not work on my desktop, even the install cd freezes
[19:19] <lucid_j> e.x. if I have a folder containing an mp3 album with cover embedded in ID3 tag. Is it possoble to display it as a thumbnail of the cover as in windows?
[19:20] <Cane> eveningsky i think its something they use for their script, but is system wide if used by EXPORT
[19:20] <obscurant1st> i am trying to install php in my syste. But after installing php now i get a 403 forbidden error for all php pages. html [pages are working fine
[19:22] <Cane> eveningsky if you type export at the shell, you'll see what is ready set
[19:22] <eveningsky> cane, but basically the effect is to build faster by running multiple commands at once, but probably for it to work, the build script must encorporate that variable?
[19:22] <frewsxcv> i have a touchpad that has the buttons on the touchpad themselves, so you click the touchpad essentially. but ubuntu thinks the buttons are the mouse
[19:22] <atlef> unomystEz: may be usefull: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[19:22] <Cane> eveningsky yes, it seems as if that is how they've set up the script
[19:22] <coe> .
[19:22] <eveningsky> cool thanks
[19:23] <alessio_alex> hello
[19:23] <Cane> hi
[19:23] <eveningsky> yo
[19:23] <alessio_alex> I have a small memory problem now
[19:24] <eveningsky> yeah, mines small too, but it's all about how you use it
[19:24] <alessio_alex> But I'm refearing to the thing that you "drag" with your mouse to go up/down
[19:24] <vhd> how to auto switch to hdmi output when its connected and back to laptop display when disconnected?
[19:24] <alessio_alex> In Ubuntu, it's kind of white
[19:24] <alessio_alex> like the background
[19:24] <alessio_alex> this happens in the text editors and browsers
[19:24] <alessio_alex> not sure how to change its color
[19:25] <dusf_> at some point today, possibly after updates, i noticed that when i click on the ubuntu applications menu it highlights but no drop down panel appears, although places and system work fine. i have read that if i 'rm ~/.config/menus/applications.menu' may fix it, is this the correct action and would i then lose all entires for wine etc?
[19:25] <alessio_alex> the scroll thingy
[19:25] <MK`> erUSUL: how big should I make /tmp, /usr, and /var?
[19:25] <alessio_alex> does anybody have a clue.. ?
[19:25] <damno> MK, r u gonna make diff temp var and usr partitions?
[19:25] <CantWinn> Using the Ubuntu 11.04, It's been a while since I've used Ubuntu or any *untu.. I gotta say, this my have just won over my Mint partition with open arms.. I love it!
[19:25] <eveningsky> well most people call it a scrollbar. I don't know how to fix it, but that might help you google if nobody here has the answer
[19:26] <MK`> yeah damno
[19:26] <alessio_alex> eveningsky don't you have this problem..?
[19:26] <coe> rr0hit, still on channell
[19:27] <damno> why do I see some names in white?
[19:27] <vhd> Is it possible to have video output switch to HDMI when it connects and back when disconnected, automatically?
[19:27] <eveningsky> alessio_alex: I think I see what you mean but it doesn't bother me so not a "problem"
[19:28] <Logan_> !ot | CantWinn
[19:28] <eveningsky> alessio_alex: maybe try installing different themes till you get colors you like
[19:28] <alessio_alex> ok
[19:28] <alessio_alex> thanks for your help
[19:29] <CantWinn> ubottu: Thanks I was actually getting to a support question, just trying to do many things at once - it's my birthday and people are calling like crazy - any way just trying to type it out
[19:29] <coe> am need used Desktop effect on ubuntu 10.10, am used lenovo g460 and lspci http://paste.ubuntu.com/591820/ any body can help ?!!1
[19:29] <ManDay> How do I make the border at which I can drag and resize windows thicker?
[19:29] <ferrer3> Can you help me? I cant reduce brightness on my VAIO notebook. FN+F6\5 work, but there is no effect.
[19:29] <ManDay> its 1 damn pixel by default
[19:29] <eveningsky> alessio_alex: and you can actually customize your theme too, so if you like everything but the scrollbar, try to figure out which theme color is behind the scrollbar
[19:29] <dusf_> at some point today, possibly after updates, i noticed that when i click on the ubuntu applications menu it highlights but no drop down panel appears, although places and system work fine. i have read that if i 'rm ~/.config/menus/applications.menu' may fix it, is this the correct action and would i then lose all entires for wine etc?
[19:31] <Cane> dusf_  you can do mv ~/.config/menus/applications.menu ~/backup.applications.menu
[19:31] <ferrer3> Can someone help me to solve problem with brightness on sony vaio?
[19:31] <Cane> that'll move it to your user directory and if it don't work, move it back... but if the system can't find your applcaitons.menu file it creates a default one
[19:32] <vhd> is it possible to manipulate the Nvidia X Server settings via terminal commands?
[19:32] <dusf_> Cane: magically fixed, ty :)
[19:32] <Cane> :)
[19:33] <benzaldehyde> vhd: i don't think
[19:33] <damno> dusf, copy ur "applications-merged" folder somewhere to keep the wine menu items, and place it back to whr it shd b; later
[19:33] <vhd> benzaldehyde, ah that places a roadblock then :/ thanks
[19:33] <dusf_> damno: already fixed with cane's command, ty anyway
[19:33] <dusf> bye dusf
[19:33] <benzaldehyde> vhd: i have heard of the res being set in xorg.conf, gl
[19:33] <dusf_> bye
[19:34] <dusf> ;)
[19:34] <vhd> benzaldehyde, I wanted to try write a script which would switch display output based on whether hdmi output was connected or not.
[19:35] <benzaldehyde> vhd: havy stuff
[19:35] <CantWinn> Just wondering about the ATI proprietary drivers, is it even worth turning them on? I know when I was using Mint it just bogged down my system badly and I have a quad core lol
[19:35] <damno> all has quit
[19:37] <dsjackins> if i just write a windows iso to a usb like i would an ubuntu iso can i install from it?
[19:37] <Memphizzz> how can i remove the "About Gnome" item from the "System" category in the panel for example?
[19:37] <ohsix> theres a menu editor, and that's a menu
[19:38] <alessio_alex> eveningsky the solution to my problem was installing gnome-color-chooser
[19:38] <atlef> dsjackins: should work
[19:38] <ohsix> theres some lockdown stuff that lets you white out menu entries as system policy instead of per user too
[19:38] <alessio_alex> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1526408
[19:38] <Memphizzz> ohsix: but it doesnt show the "About Gnome" item
[19:38] <ohsix> Memphizzz: oh that, k
[19:40] <george> could anyone help get "motion" started at startup?
[19:40] <MK`> There are some Japanese characters in unicode that seem to be switched in ubuntu, no matter what application or font I use. Where I can I search through reported bugs, and does anyone here know kana to check if it affects you too?
[19:41] <ferrer3> can you help me? i have installed ubuntu 10.10 on my vaio notebook. But i cant control  brightness
[19:41] <damno> mysterious
[19:41] <ferrer3> all functions dont work
[19:41] <coe> all ame need make my Desktop Effect work well but can't, why, am used lenovo G460 lspci like this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/591820/ PLEASE HELP ME.
[19:41] <ohsix> MK`: which ones?
[19:42] <ohsix> MK`: is it the actual symbol thats swapped or something in the font
[19:42] <Andy80> maybe an off topic question, but I'm sure you can point me to the right place: how does it work for being added/syndacated on Ubuntu Planet ?
[19:42] <coe> ikonia, all ame need make my Desktop Effect work well but can't, why, am used lenovo G460 lspci like this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/591820/ PLEASE HELP ME.
[19:42] <damno> ferre3, do u have graphic any driver installed?
[19:42] <damno> ferre3, do u have any graphic driver installed?
[19:42] <george> I have installed "motion" and used "update-rc.d" to add to runlevels; however, still not starting
[19:43] <MK`> the combining dakuten and handakuten. a) あ゙     b) あ゛     | a) is the combining character, and acts as such on my friends' assorted windows installations, but it shows opposite for me, with b) combining
[19:43] <ferrer3> damno, no, should i? i vae intel video card... will it help?
[19:43] <ohsix> Andy80: i think theres a link on how to get syndicated _on_ planet gnome, and iirc it just says be a prominent member or notable blog; and ask to be added
[19:43] <MK`> I checked in many fonts and it's all the same, even the same fonts they used on windows
[19:44] <coe> all ame need make my Desktop Effect work well but can't, why, am used lenovo G460 lspci like this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/591820/ PLEASE HELP ME.
[19:44] <damno> for me, the brightness control resides in the nvidia settings manager.
[19:44] <coder2> i have ubuntu lucid installed on my dell studio laptop......my system hangs quite often these days..........so any idea why this is happening???
[19:44] <Andy80> ohsix: thanks, I'll give a look :)
[19:44] <Memphizzz> how can i remove the "About Gnome" item from the "System" category in the panel for example?
[19:44] <ferrer3> the problem is my card isnt nvidia :(
[19:44] <coe> all ame need make my Desktop Effect can't work well, why, am used lenovo G460 lspci like this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/591820/ PLEASE HELP ME.
[19:44] <george> NEED HELP...  anyone?
[19:44] <coe> george, what...
[19:45] <george> I have installed "motion" but I can't get it to start with the machine
[19:45] <george> I use update-rc.d to update the runlevels, but still nothing
[19:45] <coder2> system hangs...........help
[19:46] <nyuszika7h> I added myself to the www-data group, but I still can't access /var/www !
[19:46] <coe> coder2, what system hangs you mean?
[19:47] <coe> nyuszika7h, mean ?
[19:47] <nyuszika7h> coe: what?
[19:47] <coder2> coe: my whole operating system........and i have to power off then restat my laptop
[19:47] <nyuszika7h> Could not save the file /var/www/mysqli.php.
[19:48] <ferrer3> guys, pls help. need to install driver for video card Intel GMA HD... how??
[19:48] <george> hello???
[19:48] <coderego> Hi Everyone, I'm trying to mount a DD image file of an XFS file system onto my ubuntu install using command:
[19:48] <coderego>  sudo mount -t XFS sdb.img /mnt/sdb
[19:48] <coderego>  my dmesg | tail shows "Bad Magic Number"
[19:48] <coderego> does anyone have any ideas on how I can get this mounted?
[19:49] <coe> nyuszika7h, and coder2 am sorry i don't understand
[19:49] <ohsix> coderego: you need to use -o loop so mount will setup the .img on a loop; or do it yourself with losetup
[19:49] <GOMI> someone can FIX  NVIDIA problems , i think its that causing the problems of flickering
[19:49] <GOMI> just deleted flash
[19:49] <coderego> Yes sorry, I am using -o loop
[19:49] <ohsix> (i recommend the latter, until you are at least familiar with using losetup; so you can delete them and such when mount goes awry)
[19:50] <ohsix> coderego: is it an xfs filesystem alone or a hard disk image with partitions?
[19:50] <coder2> coe: dont understand what or which part???
[19:50] <coe> oCean, can you help me for vga driver on lenovo g640 am have bad grafick and am can't install Desktop Effect to
[19:50] <CantWinn> GOMI: I take it when you are trying to play a flash video that it's flickering?
[19:50] <coderego> The hard drive on which the IMG file is stored is an NTFS file system. THe IMG file itself is XFS
[19:50] <coe> coder2, alll part
[19:50] <coe> oCean, please
[19:51] <coe> !vga
[19:51] <GOMI> no its just random flickering and it kicks me back to login screen.
[19:51] <coe> !ls coe
[19:51] <nyuszika7h> coe: I have Apache installed, and I can't access /var/www. So I added myself to the www-data user group, but I still can't access /var/www.
[19:52] <damno> what is the byobu wm utility? what can I do with it?
[19:52] <GOMI> before i coundt play flash , saying its crashed
[19:52] <GOMI> so i deleted it
[19:52] <GOMI> but flickering remain
[19:52] <GOMI> s
[19:52] <CantWinn> GOMI: What does it say in your Xorg logs?
[19:52] <j5> after switching to Firefox 4 on ubuntu, my flash has all sorts of missing chunks, white blocks, and buggy interactivity-- anyone know a solution to this?
[19:53] <GOMI> what must i look for ?
[19:53] <coderego> Anyone have any ideas on the "Bad Magic Number" error when mounting a DD image containing an XFS file system?
[19:53] <ohsix> j5: on x86_64 with nspluginwrapper & 32bit plugin?
[19:53] <szwiru> :>
[19:53] <ohsix> coderego: if you get a bad magic number area it's not a raw xfs filesystem
[19:53] <ohsix> coderego: or it's very damaged
[19:53] <ferrer3> guys pls... sorry for stupid question - how to update video driver for Intel GMA HD?
[19:53] <j5> ohsix, yeah i think so
[19:53] <coe> HOW TO FIX MY PROBLEM : http://paste.ubuntu.com/591820/
[19:54] <ohsix> j5: i've had problems like that with nspluginwrapper and flash, even before ff4, is it differently bad on different websites? it doesn't support wmode with nspluginwrapper
[19:54] <coder2> coe: let me explain you....i have a dell studio laptop installed with ubuntu 10.04 lucid......and it often gets hanged......and nothing works out i have tried ctrl+alt+del too to restart but it didnot worked so everutime i have to power off manually and then restart my laptop......so i just want to get rid of this problem
[19:54] <GOMI> i dont see any errors ?
[19:54] <j5> ohsix, yeah.. its fine on some websites-- and google chromes flash is almost flawless
[19:54] <GOMI> strange
[19:55] <CantWinn> GOMI: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[19:55] <Pici> !who
[19:55] <CantWinn> GOMI: sorry in a terminal type "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log" and see where it's terminating
[19:55] <j5> ohsix, im not sure if i have the 32bit plugin, i have Adobe Flash Player plugin for mozilla, which may or may not be that
[19:55] <ohsix> j5: all i can really suggest is the native plugin, nspluginwrapper has never really worked acceptably for me
[19:56] <coe> coder2, innstall you os back
[19:56] <ohsix> j5: if you have an x86_64 install and used flashplugin-installer (the package) instead of manually doing it, you have nspluginwrapper
[19:56] <j5> yeah i have nspluginwrapper, ok so ill look for the native one
[19:56] <GOMI> what do you mean by "where its terminating"
[19:57] <coe> coder2, innstall you os back orrrr burn it
[19:57] <GOMI> its the same as in log vieuwer ?
[19:57] <ohsix> j5: after you put native in the right place, or even before, be sure to uninstall flashplugin-installer (and nspluginwrapper and stuff should automatically go with it)
[19:57] <ferrer3> guys, pls help. need to install driver for video card Intel GMA HD... how??
[19:57] <coder2> coe: is it the last option???can you tell me the reason why this is happening
[19:57] <CantWinn> GOMI: I'm not sure, because I only really use cat in terminal, but if it sounds good do it
[19:58] <ohsix> ferrer3: it's already installed, what do you want to actually achieve? are you experiencing a bug or a lockup?
[19:58] <coe> coder2, yes., it mean you not lucky, and you dell studio need to burn, burn it and get new one
[19:58] <GOMI> i done it , its good
[19:58] <CantWinn> lol
[19:59] <damno> where are the packages dloded with apt-get reside?
[19:59] <Kjellski> How could I wait for two subprocesses to finish in any order? I´m not interested in the order... ?
[19:59] <coder2> ferrer3: go to system->administration->hardware drivers
[19:59] <ohsix> damno: /var/cache/apt/archives
[19:59] <CantWinn> GOMI: what your looking for is where the last user session failed, from that you can post it to a pastebin.com file and then link it here for people to muddle over.
[19:59] <ferrer3> ohsix i cant change brightness, its on max level.... i cant work with such brightness... can you help me?
[19:59] <ohsix> coder2: there are no proprietary drivers to install
[19:59] <GOMI> ok
[20:00] <ohsix> ferrer3: that is probably a problem other than the video driver, then
[20:00] <MK`> I can't change the brightness on my laptop either heh
[20:00] <CantWinn> GOMI: Keep in mind that if nothing is showing in the form of errors you may want to do the Xorglog.old file too
[20:00] <ohsix> ferrer3: like no acpi controls for it, or it not being properly detected for the output
[20:00] <ohsix> MK`: have you tried troubleshooting it, or at least reporting a bug?
[20:00] <damno> ohsix, I knew so, but there is only 9mb of archieves, last time I saw 940 mb of archives; I didnt uninstall any....m clueless
[20:00] <GOMI> CantWinn :  oke
[20:00] <MK`> Not yet.
[20:01] <MK`> Been trying to get help for other things.
[20:01] <ohsix> damno: it's only a cache of downloaded files, older ones are cleaned up after a while
[20:01] <coe> a
[20:01] <LinuxHack3r> Very long story, but after a fresh install and the "compiled from multiple files" xorg.conf, my screen has a resolution of 2560x1024 but it is really just 1280x1024. If I go into the monitor settings via System>Preferences>Monitors and change it to 1280x1024, then a section of the screen is blury, a vertical strip or two. Not too bad, but noticeable. Also, there is "overlap" IE the image is slightly wider than my screen. However if 
[20:01] <ferrer3> sony vaio with intel hd card. fn+f5,f6 works but there is no effect :((
[20:01] <CantWinn> GOMI: When you find that the log does have the error that terminated the session then copy the log into the pastebin, that way if it tough and there's a *untu coder here, they will know if it's a potential bug
[20:02] <MK`> Where do I normally change brightness? In Power options or elsewhere?
[20:02] <damno> ohsix, then should better backup all those b4 its dleted?
[20:02] <LinuxHack3r> ^^ ubuntu 10.10 64 bit, nvidia 8600gt with the latest proprietary drivers.
[20:02] <damno> I mean for future use...
[20:03] <ohsix> damno: no, they will be fetched again if needed
[20:03] <ferrer3> Y mk but it doesnt work for me :((
[20:03] <MK`> me neither ferrer3
[20:03] <damno> ohsix, no, I mean for offline use.
[20:03] <ohsix> MK`: with buttons and i use the panel applet too
[20:03] <ohsix> damno: check out http://keryxproject.org/ or aptoncd
[20:03] <MK`> the panel applet didn't work for me ohsix
[20:03] <ferrer3> both dont work :(
[20:04] <ohsix> then you guys probably have the same problem
[20:04] <LinuxHack3r> Very long story, but after a fresh install and the "compiled from multiple files" xorg.conf, my screen has a resolution of 2560x1024 but it is really just 1280x1024. If I go into the monitor settings via System>Preferences>Monitors and change it to 1280x1024, then a section of the screen is blury, a vertical strip or two. Not too bad, but noticeable. Also, there is "overlap" IE the image is slightly wider than my screen. However if 
[20:04] <atlef> ferrer3: maybe this thread helps: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1402612&page=7
[20:04] <bullgard4> What boot messages come into /var/log/boot.log and what boot messages do not?
[20:04] <damno> yes..but I bliv aptoncd uses the cache folder for collecting the packages
[20:04] <ohsix> MK`: what video card?
[20:04] <MK`> Where command can I use from the terminal to look up my video card?
[20:04] <ohsix> lspci
[20:05] <ohsix> glxinfo
[20:05] <LinuxHack3r> MK`: lspci
[20:05] <damno> ohsix,  yes..but I bliv aptoncd uses the cache folder for collecting the packages
[20:05] <ferrer3> ty atlef, ill try it
[20:05] <CantWinn> GOMI: Also, it's in good practice for the pastebin file, before the error log that you want to have looked at, to post any information about your system (video drivers, cpu, architecture etc)that you have, as well as anything that you may have been doing when it happen (most of the time the log file will know this, but just in case it kicks the system before it can log it.)
[20:06] <MK`> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[20:06] <MK`> that? ohsix
[20:06] <ohsix> yea that
[20:06] <benzaldehyde> LinuxHack3r: are the vertical lines mostly red to rainbow colored at the edges and very thin
[20:06] <ohsix> MK`: do you see any brightness entries in the output of xrandr --verbose
[20:07] <damno> lost my conn.
[20:07] <MK`> yeah has Brightness and Backlight entries
[20:07] <Weedo> i just got my computer running
[20:08] <ohsix> MK`: if you change them with --set brightness does it change it?
[20:08] <damno> ohsix,  yes..but I bliv aptoncd uses the cache folder for collecting the packages. isn't it?
[20:08] <Weedo> new graphics card
[20:08] <ohsix> damno: i doubt it, as that would be near useless
[20:08] <LinuxHack3r> benzaldehyde: It is actually just "blurry". For example the font looks blurry about 2/5 from the left of the screen, all the way down. But on the 2560x1024 resolution, everything looks fine, and also there is no "overlap", as the image generated fits my screen instead of being roughly 10 pixels too wide. Somehow I need to generate an xorg.conf that supports my monitor at 1280x1024 correctly, but since I am using a vga monitor throug
[20:09] <damno> ohsix, hmm.. I dont know tho . .
[20:09] <j5> ohsix, im on 64bit ubuntu, do you know which flash package i should get? is it a adobe labs file?
[20:09] <venport> Hello everyone, I've got an issue with my Dell netbook and ubuntu 10.10 netbook remix. It's now booting into a strange console mode. The text reads "No init found. Try pasing init = botarg." followed by some more info (i'll be happy to supply if anyone needs it to help).
[20:09] <venport> I've tried to boot to a usb driver that is set up for install, but for some reaon the netbook will not boot to usb. I've also tried an external Cd driver and an ubuntu live disk, this also fails. I don't have the text from that right now but i remember it giving an error message no matter what usb port I was using.
[20:09] <venport> Anyone have an idea?
[20:09] <ohsix> j5: "Square" i believe, is still the 64bit one
[20:09] <FloodBot3> venport: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:09] <benzaldehyde> LinuxHack3r: is that large resolution your native res
[20:10] <atlef> !flash | j5
[20:10] <venport> Oh! sorry about the flood warning
[20:10] <addi> hello logseman :p
[20:10] <MK`> No ohsix, maybe i am doing it wrong. What is the exact command?
[20:10] <logseman> why are you here :D
[20:10] <ohsix> j5: http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/square/
[20:10] <logseman> at any rate
[20:11] <addi> i was here before when I was trying out Ubuntu :P
[20:11] <Noor_egy> hello i just installed lamp and its worked prefectly i made alise to folder in another partion at my www  folder but every time i try to acess it it gives me You don't have permission to access /w on this server.
[20:11] <LinuxHack3r> benzaldehyde: my native is 1280x1024, however a week ago I had two monitors, thus an xorg.conf. Well one monitor broke, so I edited the xorg.conf for only one of them. However, the monitor only looks "right" when it is set to 2560x1024, but then you have the "hidden screen" to the right in which windows open default to. it is when I set it to my native resolution of 1280x1024 that it gets blury and the generated image is "too wide".
[20:11] <ohsix> MK`: xrandr --output LVDS1 --set BACKLIGHT 2
[20:11] <j5> ok thanks, is the .so file installed via terminal, ohsix ?
[20:11] <ohsix> MK`: depends on the name of your output though
[20:12] <benzaldehyde> LinuxHack3r: did you try sxga
[20:12] <ohsix> j5: well you can do it in nautilus too, it needs to go into ~/.mozilla/plugins for per user install; theres a place to do it for the whole system but i haven't had the need to look
[20:12] <LinuxHack3r> benzaldehyde: not familiar with it.
[20:12] <logseman> I have a slight question regarding using gamepads. I use a Saitek PS2700, a run-of-the-mill PS2-like gamepad
[20:12] <logseman> is there a way to calibrate it properly?
[20:13] <MK`> when I change it it doesn't alter the screen, no
[20:13] <ohsix> j5: looks like it's /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[20:13] <logseman> the device is recognised in "lsusb"
[20:13] <swatto> Is there a way to make Xchat start up minimized when the system boots?
[20:13] <logseman> as a Saitek one
[20:13] <ohsix> MK`: you used a different number than the current brightness ?
[20:13] <MK`> it changes the variable from the --verbose output
[20:13] <MK`> yes
[20:13] <LinuxHack3r> benzaldehyde: what is it, doesn't seem to be in the repos
[20:14] <benzaldehyde> LinuxHack3r: apt-get install ps3-utils then ps3videomode -m 12 then if that does not look good add a -f at the end
[20:14] <logseman> nevertheless, when I try to use joy2key, it never recognises the pad
[20:14] <sl33k_> I have a script in a one directory and the file on which i run that script in other directory. How do i run script on the file and produce output in other file using > ?
[20:14] <MK`> It has 3 listings: Brightness, BACKLIGHT, and Backlight. Changing the second 2 registers them but doesn't change anything. The first one says it's not a valid name
[20:14] <LinuxHack3r> benzaldehyde: ps3-utils doesn't seem to be there either
[20:15] <bullgard4> What boot messages come into /var/log/boot.log and what boot messages do not?
[20:15] <daVinciIT> hi all. how to connect chat at statup? thank you.
[20:15] <j5> ohsix, thanks got that installed ill test it out :)
[20:16] <benzaldehyde> LinuxHack3r: try ps3pf-utils
[20:16] <LinuxHack3r> benzaldehyde: I have absolutely no ps3* in my repos
[20:16] <rodhash> Hello guys .. what's the difference between increasing a Linux LVM FS (online) with resize2fs and ext2online? In Ubuntu we have the first option, resize2fs.. any idea?
[20:16] <ohsix> MK`: ok you'll probably want to file a bug, but before that you can try the xorg-edgers ppa and cross your fingers; iirc backlight controls for kms drivers are in the kernel, theres a kernel in the ppa but it can be annoying to use for any length of time
[20:16] <sl33k_> I have a script in a one directory and the file on which i run that script in other directory. How do i run script on the file and produce output in other file using > ?
[20:17] <ohsix> MK`: it should work well enough to confirm it is fixed already, and if it is say so on the bug, someone might backport it
[20:17] <Bardor> Hello all
[20:18] <MK`> For the record, changing the rotation of the screen worked
[20:18] <j5> ohsix, wow i think that fixed everything
[20:18] <ohsix> j5: nice
[20:18] <ohsix> j5: it'll be faster and wmode will work too ;]
[20:18] <Bardor> i woul/quit
[20:19] <ohsix> MK`: it wasn't to test if xrandr worked :P just that control
[20:19] <benzaldehyde> LinuxHack3r: wget htt://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/geoff/cell/ps3-utils/ps3-utils-2.3.tar.bz2
[20:19] <ohsix> MK`: do you have an /sys/devices/virtual/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness ?
[20:19] <rodhash> Hello guys ... What's the difference between increasing a Linux LVM FS (online) with resize2fs and ext2online? In Ubuntu we have the first option, resize2fs.. any idea?
[20:19] <zcat[1]> slightly tricky problem here; a friend upgraded their laptop from 10.04 to 10.10 with not enough free space at the time and now has a horribly broken install. I'd like to do a clean install. BUT they have all their files as an encrypted home directory and we can't currently mount it, from a live CD it says encryption was not set up correctly or something. If I just backup and restore /home entirely, is there anything else I need to do?
[20:20] <sl33k_> I have a script in a one directory and the file on which i run that script in other directory. How do i run script on the file and produce output in other file?
[20:20] <logseman> let's see
[20:20] <logseman> I'll try and be concise
[20:21] <ohsix> rodhash: increasing the lv will increase the block device size the filesystem is on; you need that for the fs to have room to grow
[20:21] <nyuszika7h> Hi, could anyone tell me why can't I write to /var/www even though I'm in the group www-data ?
[20:21] <logseman> Saitek PS2700, PS2-like gamepad, it gets recognised by the computer but Joy2Key ignores it. Ideas?
[20:21] <rodhash> ohsix: Yeah, do you know why some systems use resize2fs and others use ext2online?
[20:21] <ohsix> zcat[1]: theres a wiki article about mounting those things manually
[20:21] <LinuxHack3r> benzaldehyde: after ./configure, make, sudo make install, when trying to run the command you gave me above I got: libps3-utils.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[20:21] <ohsix> rodhash: no clue
[20:22] <zcat[1]> ohsix:  url?
[20:22] <MK`> ohsix: that directory has brightness, actual_brightness, and max_brightness
[20:22] <ohsix> rodhash: an "online" tool will do it without it being unmounted or otherwise not being accessed
[20:22] <LinuxHack3r> benzaldehyde: I also fail to realize how a set of tools for the ps3 is going to help me?
[20:22] <ohsix> MK`: cat brightness max_brightness, then try and change brightness
[20:22] <zcat[1]> ohsix:  there's a fairly straightforward 'click here to mount ~ link .. I suspect he's managed to corrupt the encrypted store as well
[20:22] <rodhash> ohsix: Yeah.. thanks
[20:24] <ohsix> zcat[1]: i don't have much sympathy for people that encrypt stuff just to do it :P like their home directory
[20:24] <benzaldehyde> lindsaymobil22: it might give you better results
[20:24] <benzaldehyde> lindsaymobil22: sorry about that
[20:24] <ohsix> zcat[1]: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory#Recovering%20Your%20Data%20Manually
[20:25] <MK`> ohsix: nope. When I change backlight still nothing happens, and the Brightness parameter still isn't valid
[20:25] <rats_> n>3x2+9'Sat Apr 9 2011
[20:25] <brightspark> Hey, when I try to boot into the most recent kernel, I get a message saying "kernel panic" and my PC locks up, flashing CAPS LOCK.  How do I fix this?
[20:25] <ohsix> MK`: well all those steps you've already taken are grist for a bug report
[20:26] <zcat[1]> ohsix:  sweet. Net problem is he's got private files and hasn't left me the password. So if I just clone all of /home/ over and copy the password hash from his old /etc/shadow I'm hoping that will work anyhow.
[20:26] <lindsaymobil22> benzaldehyde, ?
[20:26] <MK`> !bug | MK`
[20:26] <MK`> heh
[20:26] <ohsix> brightspark: boot into an older kernel, make sure nothings funny about the new one (try reinstalling it, could be a fluke) and if it persists file a bug, someone will tell you how to gather the extra information
[20:27] <ohsix> zcat[1]: that wont work
[20:27] <zcat[1]> ohsix:  but thatinformation is useful because it tells my that I should not have expected what I was doing to work so there's still hope that the files are OK. ;)
[20:27] <MK`> ohsix: maybe you can report it for me? I don't want to do the bug report wrong
[20:27] <brightspark> Thanks, ohsix.
[20:27] <benzaldehyde> sorry i can not see your name did you change it
[20:27] <ohsix> MK`: you can't do it wrong
[20:28] <MK`> ohsix : which package do I say it is a bug in?
[20:28] <MK`> xrandr?
[20:28] <coe> Desktop effects could not be enabled on lenovo G460 need help
[20:28] <ohsix> MK`: "linux", or xserver-xorg-video-intel (though the latter isn't exactly applicable, people that are familiar will be notified)
[20:28] <coe> Desktop effects could not be enabled on lenovo G460 need help
[20:29] <coe> Desktop effects could not be enabled on lenovo G460 need help am used ubuntu 10.10
[20:29] <coe> Desktop effects could not be enabled on lenovo G460 need help am used ubuntu 10.10
[20:29] <zcat[1]> ohsix:  so what else would I need to cpoy over?
[20:29] <zcat[1]> *copy
[20:29] <naryfa> hey, anybody knows what's the biggest conky size I can set?
[20:29] <ohsix> zcat[1]: read that article
[20:31] <benzaldehyde> Matthew Barnes: did you leave?
[20:31] <naryfa> i found it ;)
[20:31] <naryfa> see ya
[20:31] <bullgard4> What boot messages come into /var/log/boot.log and what boot messages do not?
[20:32] <HoNgOuRu> I have a problem with the sound while playing videos in youtube...there is none....using vlc I can play songs if oss output is selected. any ideas?
[20:32] <zcat[1]> hmmmm.. I might jus tell him he's lost all his files.
[20:33] <bullgard4> HoNgOuRu: Did you install the proper Firefox plugin?
[20:33] <MK`> I need to login to send a bug report? :/ forget it...
[20:34] <lindsaymobil22> The current machine i am using to type has an ATi Radeon 9200 SE RV280, and i am unable to open fullscreen apps like supertux or stellarium, and online fullscreen video in SD is very laggy too, i am using the default ubuntu driver, I tried to see if jockey could find me a driver for it, but no results, any help on improving this performance?
[20:34] <ohsix> bullgard4: judging by the messages in it, it looks like it's from upstart or start-stop-daemon
[20:34] <ohsix> MK`: well stuff doesn't get fixed if people don't know
[20:35] <HoNgOuRu> yes
[20:35] <bullgard4> ohsix: I will try to investigate your statement.
[20:35] <MK`> I'd rather not associate an account with specs of my hardware and a bug in my system.
[20:35] <HoNgOuRu> bullgard4 yes I did
[20:35] <mrono> I have a question about sending UDP packets to an IP
[20:35] <mrono> I'm trying to send packets to a minecraft wrapper
[20:35] <mrono> http://forums.bukkit.org/threads/admn-remotetoolkit-r10-a8-3-restarts-advanced-backup-preview-full-remote-console-531.674
[20:35] <mrono> Is there a way to send UDP packets with a message
[20:36] <ohsix> MK`: to each his own
[20:36] <bullgard4> !details | mrono
[20:36] <mrono> just gave you them, trying to find the console command to do what i described
[20:36] <aflaouras> Hello, does anyone know how to fix a buggy dsdt file?
[20:37] <ohsix> aflaouras: that's your vendors job
[20:37] <HoNgOuRu> bullgard I FOUND THE ERROR
[20:37] <HoNgOuRu> I have 2 soundcards...
[20:37] <aflaouras> i just ask for help @ohsix
[20:37] <HoNgOuRu> somehow firefox outputs to the unnplugged one
[20:37] <ohsix> aflaouras: you can't really "fix" them yourself, people modify them and do things like getting iasl to stop complaining about errors, but they rarely know what they're doing, or if it fixes anything; more like sidesteps the problem
[20:37] <bullgard4> HoNgOuRu: Congratulations.
[20:37] <HoNgOuRu> thanks
[20:37] <HoNgOuRu> but
[20:38] <HoNgOuRu> how do I redirect the sound to the first one?
[20:38] <ohsix> HoNgOuRu: go to the volume properties and pick the one you want to use for output on the Hardware tab
[20:38] <HoNgOuRu> I know, I don't have exactly ubuntu installed
[20:38] <ohsix> .
[20:38] <HoNgOuRu> it is backtrack, but it's the same thing practically
[20:38] <ohsix> no it's not
[20:38] <ohsix> !backtrack | HoNgOuRu
[20:38] <HoNgOuRu> is there any console command line ?
[20:38] <mrono> How do I send a UDP transmit message via the console in ubuntu server 11.04
[20:39] <Galvatron> lindsaymobil22: This card is no longer supported by ATI/AMD and the only drivers avaible are the open ones ("radeon"). You might try the xorg-edgers and see if they will help, but this card is so troublesome that you best get some GeForce 7 + proprietary NV ForceWare drivers.
[20:39] <HoNgOuRu> ok, but is there any command line command ?
[20:39] <nyuszika7h> I ask again: Why can't I write to /var/www, even though I'm in the www-data group?
[20:40] <s5fs> nyuszika7h: what are the permissions on the /var/www dir?
[20:40] <iceroot> nyuszika7h: because the directory is owned by root not by www-data
[20:40] <s5fs> nyuszika7h: does www-data have write access?
[20:40] <HoNgOuRu> mmmm what If I blacklist the soundcard?
[20:40] <zcat[1]> so if I just copy all of /home/ including /home/.ecryptfs) to a new system and have a user with the same name, the same UID and the same password why would that not work? Where else does it store keys etc?
[20:40] <HoNgOuRu> and reboot
[20:41] <ohsix> zcat[1]: you shouldn't lie to your friend about losing data
[20:41] <ohsix> zcat[1]: mount it on the broken system, copy everything off; forget this encrypted home thing
[20:41] <lindsaymobil22> Galvatron, Thank you for your reply :) Could you direct me to the xorg-edgers?
[20:41] <zcat[1]> ohsix:  no, I won't do that unless I really cannot recover it.
[20:41] <naxo> hello
[20:41] <nyuszika7h> How do I start the file browser from the terminal?
[20:41] <bullgard4> Mrono: Have you tried netcat?
[20:42] <mkanyicy> nyuszika7h, nautilus pathname
[20:42] <Mrono> bullgard4: haven't been able to figure out how to send a transmit message
[20:42] <mkanyicy> nyuszika7h, or just 'nautilus'
[20:42] <ohsix> lindsaymobil22: chances are it wont' help; as radeon will already have whats applicable for your card in it, but https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa and unfortunately buidls for maverick haven't been going for a while, due to changes in natty
[20:42] <rodhash> Guys .. Any idea what FS has the major I/O in Ubuntu? /var maybe?
[20:42] <bullgard4> Mrono: Read 'man netcat'.
[20:43] <ohsix> rodhash: ask iotop or something that will tell you directly instead of trying to guess
[20:43] <edbian> rodhash: what do you mean I/O  ?  hdd I/O ?  keyboard / mouse I/ O  ?  the monitor?
[20:43] <Mrono> bullgard4: I am though I don't see a section on transmite messages yet
[20:43] <Mrono> bullgard4: yet
[20:43] <mkanyicy> rodhash, why does that matter?
[20:43] <bullgard4> Mrono: I have not got another idea. Sorry.
[20:44] <rodhash> edbian: It's related to FS, so hdd..
[20:44] <Mrono> bullgard4: thanks
[20:44] <nyuszika7h> !paste
[20:44] <Galvatron> lindsaymobil22: https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa
[20:44] <edbian> rodhash: What do you mean 'has the I/O'  is most frequently read / written?
[20:44] <rodhash> mkanyicy: Because I'm creating stripped FS but I'll use only on specific ones
[20:44] <ohsix> rodhash: whatever anyone could say would be speculation, and would even change with circumstance
[20:44] <nyuszika7h> Why do I get these errors when starting nautilus? http://paste.ubuntu.com/591846/
[20:44] <mkanyicy> rodhash, by FS you mean filesystem?
[20:44] <rodhash> ohsix: you're right.. thanks for the advice, I'm installing iotop
[20:45] <lindsaymobil22> Thank you Galvatron  and ohsix  :)
[20:45] <Noor_egy> hello i just installed lamp and its worked prefectly i made alise to folder in another partion at my www  folder but every time i try to acess it it gives me You don't have permission to access /w on this server.
[20:45] <ohsix> nyuszika7h: those aren't all happening at the same time, but the very last one seems to indicate samba isn't installed
[20:45] <ikonia> Noor_egy: what are the folder permissions ?
[20:45] <RxDx> how can i use gnome3 on natty?
[20:45] <Galvatron> lindsaymobil22: After you add this repo, you must first install a small program called "ppa-purge" (sudo aptitude install ppa-purge). If something gets wrong, you simply do "sudo ppa-purge ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa".
[20:46] <ohsix> rodhash: if you're trying to pick filesystems or something based on that information, i wouldn't
[20:46] <nyuszika7h> !gnome3 | RxDx
[20:46] <ikonia> !natty  | RxDx
[20:46] <Noor_egy> ikonia: i made it 777
[20:46] <ohsix> !777
[20:46] <ohsix> ^ there needs to be one
[20:46] <ikonia> Noor_egy: what about the apache <directory> permissions, can you reference a file by name
[20:46] <nyuszika7h> ohsix: /msg ubottu 777 is something
[20:46] <nyuszika7h> lol
[20:46] <ohsix> nyuszika7h: noted
[20:47] <ohsix> is "never" too strong a word to use in a factoid?
[20:47] <CasW> I'm trying to package my software, and I'm following a tutorial for that, but I just couldn't get http://ghantoos.org/2008/10/19/creating-a-deb-package-from-a-python-setuppy/#gpg working, anyone can help me?
[20:47] <ryanprior> ohsix: "no reason" might be strong enough.
[20:47] <bullgard4> nyuszika7h: What did you tamper with Nautilus or gconf before?
[20:47] <Noor_egy> ikonia:  how could i know that
[20:47] <RxDx> !gnome3
[20:47] <nyuszika7h> bullgard4: Nothing.
[20:47] <ikonia> Noor_egy: try to reference a file by name in your apache root in the browser eg: http://yourdomain.com/file.html
[20:48] <ohsix> ryanprior: all the work to undo such a thing makes my skin crawl
[20:48] <bullgard4> nyuszika7h: I do not believe you. You may try to restart gdm.
[20:48] <Galvatron> lindsaymobil22: And start looking for a replacement GeForce - preferebly 7, as they are the latest AGP series, and are likely to be supported in fresh drivers for some next 2 years at worst - because troubleshooting this radeon is just helpless.
[20:48] <Noor_egy> ikonia: dont work
[20:48] <ohsix> Galvatron: well nobody has really troubleshooted anything, have they
[20:48] <nyuszika7h> bullgard4: I restarted the entire system some minutes ago...
[20:48] <ikonia> Noor_egy: where is DocumentRoot set to point within apache ?
[20:48] <lindsaymobil22> Galvatron, I will do :(
[20:49] <lindsaymobil22> :) **
[20:49] <mkanyicy> nyuszika7h, what do you want to do?
[20:49] <Noor_egy> ikonia:  sorry what do u mean
[20:49] <Tigerplug292> whats up ... I just upgraded to a development branch but lost my compiz (I have an nVidia card)
[20:49] <Tigerplug292> how can I fix this?
[20:49] <ikonia> Noor_egy: where are you putting files ?
[20:49] <xangua> !natty  | Tigerplug292
[20:49] <ohsix> Tigerplug292: #ubuntu+1 for natty support
[20:49] <ryanprior> ohsix: lots of work? Anything find can't handle?
[20:49] <ikonia> Tigerplug292: don't use development versions,
[20:49] <Galvatron> lindsaymobil22: I've spent over 1,5 year with that card on Linux and had  a countless number of bigger and lesser problems.
[20:50] <Noor_egy>  ikonia: im putting my files in another pation where i made my alias
[20:50] <Tigerplug292> ohsix, ikonia  thanks
[20:50] <ikonia> Noor_egy: what is the path to the files
[20:50] <milamber> ohsix: there is the !danger factoid
[20:50] <lindsaymobil22> Galvatron, What would be the best of the 7 series to get?
[20:50] <bullgard4> nyuszika7h: May be reading http://www.gnome.org/~bmsmith/gconf-docs/C/gconf-editor.html will give you some background information.
[20:50] <nyuszika7h> mkanyicy: I just changed the permissions for www-data on /var/www.
[20:50] <Noor_egy> ikonia:  /media/D/Work
[20:50] <ohsix> ryanprior: anything under the tree they do that too might have arbitrary permissions, and it's extra important for web apps; not just a privacy thing
[20:50] <mkanyicy> nyuszika7h, and then?
[20:51] <ohsix> !danger > me
[20:51] <ikonia> Noor_egy: is this on an NTFS partition
[20:51] <nyuszika7h> mkanyicy: I closed nautilus. Errors appeared right after starting nautilus.
[20:51] <nyuszika7h> As root.
[20:51] <Noor_egy> ikonia: yes
[20:51] <ikonia> Noor_egy: not going to work
[20:51] <nyuszika7h> Oh, forgot about gksudo >_>
[20:52] <nyuszika7h> I still get the same errors... even with gksudo.
[20:52] <mkanyicy> nyuszika7h, I would recomment to not open nautilus as root
[20:52] <nyuszika7h> mkanyicy: I *needed* to do it, to change permissions on a folder...
[20:52] <ohsix> heh
[20:52] <Noor_egy> ikonia:  ty
[20:52] <nyuszika7h> And I found doing that easier than asking for how can I change it from bash...
[20:52] <nyuszika7h> s/it/them/
[20:53] <mkanyicy> nyuszika7h, use terminal instead
[20:53] <CasW> How can I sign my package?
[20:53] <Star_Light> hello
[20:53] <nyuszika7h> mkanyicy: Ok, then tell me how do I change permissions in it...
[20:53] <Star_Light> can i ask something?
[20:53] <dotlegend> my home folders got moved to the desktop and when i delete one it is not a shortcut but the whole folder, how can i cleanup my desktop without deleting my data?
[20:53] <milamber> !chown | nyuszika7h
[20:53] <mkanyicy> nyuszika7h, sudo chmod 775 /var/www
[20:54] <bullgard4> !details | Star_Light
[20:54] <nyuszika7h> mkanyicy: what does 'chmod 775' do?
[20:54] <nyuszika7h> I only know about chmod 664
[20:54] <mkanyicy> nyuszika7h, man chmod
[20:54] <ohsix> all this talk about chmod and file permissions is very agitating, i will be back later :[
[20:54] <Star_Light> i installed the sendmail ok? And the service of sendmail running as root.... i think is not good this :/
[20:54] <CasW> !answer | How can I sign my package?
[20:54] <mkanyicy> nyuszika7h, or 'sudo chmod g+rwx /var/www'
[20:55] <mkanyicy> nyuszika7h, that gives rwx permissions to the group (www-data)
[20:55] <guntbert> !patience | CasW
[20:55] <Star_Light> 176	root      2973  0.0  0.1  84368  2332 ?        Ss   22:28   0:00 sendmai
[20:55] <Star_Light> ps aux | grep sendmail
[20:55] <ikonia> CasW: contact the person who wrote that guide
[20:55] <guntbert> !pastebin | Star_Light
[20:55] <milamber> CasW: did you read the ubuntu guide? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete
[20:55] <spyder48> i doni della morte - parte due
[20:56] <milamber> !it
[20:56] <rodhash> ohsix: Thanks for your advice, I've created my stripped FS and identified my disk io issue.. :)
[20:56] <CasW> Okay, milamber, I thank you, I didn't know they had a guide :p
[20:56] <Star_Light> i dont understand the directories :/
[20:56] <Star_Light> directions*
[20:57] <ikonia> Star_Light: it's supposed to run as root
[20:58] <dotlegend> my home folders got moved to the desktop and when i delete one it is not a shortcut but the whole folder, how can i cleanup my desktop without deleting my data?
[20:58] <dropperz> Hey, I'm using ubuntu and everything loads from the bottom up, how do I fix this?
[20:58] <Star_Light> ikonia and what about my security???
[20:58] <ikonia> Star_Light: it's not a risk
[20:58] <liminal> hello
[20:58] <Star_Light> okeik
[20:58] <ikonia> dotlegend: move them back to /home
[20:59] <mkanyicy> dotlegend, try:  'mv ~/Desktop/* ~'
[20:59] <liminal> whats the difference between a wifi adapter showing on interface Ra0 and one on Wlan0?
[20:59] <ikonia> mkanyicy: no
[20:59] <Star_Light> but why? i mean in mysql application the user running as simply mysql user... its not the similar with sendmail?
[20:59] <tntcoda> Hi, I have problems running 2 vncservers. :1 runs fine but I cannot get :2 working. It starts fine and the port is listening, but vncviewer just times out. Nothing in the logs and im out of ideas. Anyone seen this before?
[20:59] <ikonia> mkanyicy: that will move everyything to his personal home directory,
[20:59] <ikonia> dotlegend: ignore that
[20:59] <mkanyicy> ikonia, oh? i thought that will put the files back to ~
[20:59] <ikonia> dotlegend: move the home folders from your desktop backt o /home
[21:00] <dotlegend> ikonia: they are there in the home folder
[21:00] <mkanyicy> ikonia, /home?
[21:00] <ikonia> dotlegend: then there is no problem
[21:00] <gimpy1685> I have a wireless mouse which the forums state works fine with 10.04, but mine does not.  Doesn't even show up in lspci, what do?
[21:00] <SixtyFold> dotlegend: so you have copies?
[21:00] <milamber> gimpy1685: is it a usb mouse?
[21:00] <SixtyFold> it just sounds like you accidentally copied your /home directory to your desktop
[21:01] <dotlegend> okay the folders are in the home folder and on the desktop, the desktop directories point to where they need to be
[21:01] <gimpy1685> milamber: Wireless with a dongle.
[21:01] <SixtyFold> just verify everything youre deleting is also still in your /home before permanently rm them
[21:01] <milamber> gimpy1685: try lsusb?
[21:01] <mkanyicy> SixtyFold, ikonia, dotlegend: sometimes i have seen if the ~/Desktop folder is not available, the desktop will show the contents of the ~ folder
[21:01] <dotlegend> for instance if i delete my pictures from desktop it gets removed from home/mypictures
[21:01] <SixtyFold> hrmm, weird
[21:02] <SixtyFold> theyre like synced? haha
[21:02] <mkanyicy> dotlegend, do not delete anything
[21:02] <mkanyicy> dotlegend, you rather move files than removing them
[21:02] <dotlegend> what do i do?
[21:02] <itilious> why would my ppp0 device not show (vpn connected) when i run "route" in terminal?
[21:03] <benzaldehyde> liminal: Ra just denotes a brand
[21:03] <dannyd> hi all is there something smililar to HTC sync for ubuntu?
[21:03] <gimpy1685> milamber: Nothing jumps out at me that lsusb shows my mouse.
[21:03] <mkanyicy> dotlegend, open terminal and type 'cd' and 'pwd' and 'ls' and 'cd ~/Desktop' and 'ls'
[21:03] <mkanyicy> dotlegend, not any errors that come
[21:03] <milamber> gimpy1685: what mouse is it?
[21:03] <gimpy1685> milamber: Logitech M305
[21:04] <mrbang> *waves at room
[21:05] <milamber> gimpy1685: have you tried a different usb port?
[21:06] <itilious> i ran "sudo route del default" which deleted my ppp0 from route list, now when i run "sudo route add default ppp0" the proper information (gateway/etc) isnt there, how can i fix this?
[21:06] <thm_> can sb explain to me what the "ubuntu_local" property of a GtkMenu or GtkMenuBar is for?
[21:06] <Memphizzz> how can i remove the "About Gnome" item from the "System" category in the panel for example?
[21:06] <itilious> anyone have any experience with ubuntu client vpn?
[21:06] <gimpy1685> milamber: Uh, that worked but it doesn't make sense.  I know that port works, I had a wired mouse in it yesterday.
[21:07] <gimpy1685> itilious: What type of VPN, Juniper?
[21:07] <milamber> gimpy1685: different ports or totally different adapter?
[21:08] <itilious> windows 7 vpn as host,, ubuntu 10.04 vpn client as.. client
[21:08] <gimpy1685> milamber: You mean different dongle?  Nope, just moved the dongle from one port to another and it started working.
[21:08] <itilious> i was able to get it working successfully by running "sudo route add default ppp0" and could access internet and my vpn remote resources ok
[21:09] <itilious> then after done with vpn use and discconected i ran "sudo route del default" and then "sudo route add default wlan0" but i think this messed up my VPN settings
[21:09] <gimpy1685> itilious: So the built in Windows VPN software? Sorry, I'm no help with that.  If it using L2TP which is a standard, than you can use kvpnc or any similar client on Ubuntu.
[21:09] <itilious> cuz now when i run the "sudo route add default ppp0" all values are 0.0.0.0
[21:09] <milamber> gimpy1685: tis the mystery of the dance i guess
[21:09] <itilious> gimpy1685, i can connect to it just fine
[21:09] <itilious> gimpy1685, i need to fix my routing info thru ubuntu
[21:10] <itilious> it seems i messed up settings by running "sudo route del default" then "sudo route add default wlan0"
[21:10] <gimpy1685> itilious: Oh, in that route command you need to tell it what the IP of the gateway is.
[21:10] <itilious> gimpy1685, how would i need to change the terminal cammand from "sudo route add default ppp0" to add gateway info as well?
[21:10] <itilious> is this all i need to add?
[21:10] <daVinciIT> hi all. how to run empathy.desktop from Terminal? thank you
[21:11] <gimpy1685> itilious: You'll have to check the man page or google, I don't know the syntax off hand.
[21:11] <Fuchs> daVinciIT: you don't. Run the application that is set for the "exec" part in the .desktop file. Usually that is just empathy.
[21:11] <noam46> ?
[21:11] <noam46> I NEED HELP
[21:11] <noam46> anyone here?
[21:11] <FloodBot3> noam46: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:11] <daVinciIT> thank you. I try
[21:12] <itilious> ugh, its so hard to weed out all the trash on google and non-pertaining info, anyone here know this command?
[21:12] <itilious> seem sa lot of people should cuz it was the ONLY way i could get Ubuntu to successfully access the VPN remote resources
[21:13] <eMCe88> siema
[21:13] <Logan_> !pl | eMCe88
[21:14] <gimpy1685> itilious: I've never to needed to manually change routes with a VPn on Ubuntu.  Also, we don't give hand outs, we lead you to the answer.  Again, read the man page for the syntax.
[21:14] <BlakHawk> wow gimpy
[21:15] <saretta> sera
[21:15] <BlakHawk> heh thats funny i love when people don't know the answer and they do that RTFM thing...
[21:15] <BlakHawk> just say you don't know
[21:15] <BlakHawk> don't be mean man there is no need for it
[21:15] <saretta> !list
[21:15] <Logan_> !it | saretta
[21:15] <xrdodrx> gimpy1685, we do give "handouts" though. :3
[21:16] <gimpy1685> BlakHawk: That wasn't mean at all. I'm not handing out fish, I'm handing out advice on how to use a fishing pole.
[21:17] <gimpy1685> xrdodrx: Sometimes yes, but handouts should not be assumed. That person obviously could learn how to fix it once pointed in the right direction, they were smart and experienced enough to remove the route via command line in the first place.
[21:17] <sasha> i just installed ubuntu, but i cannot boot my windows. so i need to get my iexplorer favorites from ubuntu, and import them to chrome or firefox. i already mounted windows partition, and i can see my favorites as separate files with .url extensions. is it possible to do that?
[21:18] <coz_> sasha,  there is a little utility to convert IE favorites to firefox book marks
[21:18] <coz_> sasha,    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/132551/APPS/IE2FFbookmarks.zip
[21:19] <coz_> sasha,  you would use that on linux  not windows
[21:19] <saretta>  /join #ubuntu-it
[21:19] <saretta>   /join #ubuntu-it
[21:19] <sasha> coz_: i'll try it. is it something executable?
[21:20] <coz_> sasha, hold on let me open it again
[21:21] <coz_> sasha,  hold on there is a dependency
[21:22] <gimpy1685> saretta: You have a space at the beginning of that, remove it.
[21:23] <coz_> sasha,  first   sudo apt-get install  python-tk
[21:23] <sasha> coz_: ok i'm trying
[21:24] <coz_> sasha,  I am checking here,, its been a while since I used this hold on
[21:24] <IsoLnCHiP> Hi, does anyone know a way to have different keymappings for multiple keyboards? such as internal laptop and external usb?
[21:25] <coz_> sasha,  ok,, after installing python-tk   open a terminal.  cd into the IE2FF folder and run           python IE2FFwithGUI.py
[21:25] <Jon--> Any idea how I can turn multiple jpegs into one PDF?
[21:26] <benzaldehyde> IsoLnCHiP: you might look into creating different users for each
[21:26] <CasW> Hey guys, here I am again, I have (not succesfully) made a deb of my program, but if I want to install it, it doesn't crash, it doesn't throw an error, it just installs (hey, I see now that he also 'knows' it is installed), but I can't find it anywhere, not in the menu's, not in the software centre, now I also see it in Synaptic, but how can I start it? How can I make it to be in the menu when I install it? Also, if I type in the terminal 'qh
[21:26] <CasW> I'm using Ubuntu 10.10
[21:26] <LinuxHack3r> So is there a well known bug amongst 10.10, 64 bit, flash, and nvidia? After I watcha video on youtube, for example, and exit the video or even firefox and everything...the last frame is "ghosted" into windows such as terminal, etc etc.
[21:27] <coz_> Jon--,  you can use inkscape,,, open one of the images in inkscape,, embedded,,, from inkscape open each ofthe others... copy paste into the origianl image,, arrange them    shift+ctrl+s  to saveas,,, at the bottom right  the pulldown menu choose  pdf  as the option and save
[21:27] <sasha> coz_: i cannot unzip it, because when i open the folder with dolphin, dolphin crashes. can i unzip it from the terminal?\
[21:27] <Star_Light> LinuxHack3r,
[21:27] <Star_Light> your display are frozen?
[21:27] <coz_> sasha,  oh?
[21:28] <coz_> sasha,   you can right click the file to extract it?
[21:28] <Star_Light> is*
[21:28] <LinuxHack3r> Star_Light: well, sorta...but only for flash content....like if I drag this terminal window to where the video USED to be...I still see the flash controls and such.
[21:28] <Star_Light> firefox crash ?
[21:28] <mkanyicy> Jon--, open then in openoffice and save as pdf
[21:28] <Star_Light> flash of firefox?
[21:28] <coz_> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/132551/IE2FFwithGUI.py
[21:29] <coz_> sasha,  ok download this    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/132551/IE2FFwithGUI.py
[21:29] <coz_> sasha,  that is the executable in the folder
[21:29] <LinuxHack3r> Star_Light: no...nothing crashed....just when I exit.
[21:29] <coz_> sasha,  cd to where you downloaded it,, and run  python  IE2FFwithGUI.py
[21:30] <Star_Light> ok
[21:31] <benzaldehyde> sasha: if you can't manage to get it going, your best bet would have been to first export to html when you had windows going.
[21:31] <benzaldehyde> coz_: would wine run a windows program on a windows drive
[21:31] <edbian> benzaldehyde: I think it will.
[21:32] <coz_> benzaldehyde,  ??  why would you want to run a windows application in wine while on windows??
[21:32] <IsoLnCHiP> benzaldehyde: Ok, while that is one solution I was hopeing for some xinput or setxkmap magic. so I dont have to loose my session. Additionally having an extra usb keyboard mapped with macros or something would be cool
[21:32] <sasha> ok coz_ thanks
[21:32] <Furry> benzaldehyde: You'd need to chmod the file so it's runnable, I think
[21:32] <edbian> it's not in the windows OS, it's on an ntfs partition
[21:32] <linda_> !dvd
[21:32] <coz_> sasha,  did that open?
[21:32] <benzaldehyde> coz_: i meant in linux, could someone start a program sitting on a windows partition, sorry
[21:32] <edbian> benzaldehyde: I think so.
[21:32] <Furry> lets see
[21:33] <Furry> benzaldehyde: let me try, one sex
[21:33] <CasW> What are the sections (for my package, debian/control)?
[21:33] <coz_> benzaldehyde,  mm from linux  no... not unless windows is installed virtually  but it still would only up in the virtual machine's window
[21:33] <sasha> coz_: it opened, but it doesnt do anything when i press on start button
[21:33] <coz_> sasha,  let me check here hold on
[21:34] <Furry> benzaldehyde: You can't, you need to mark the file as executable, but that's impossible since it's in another partition
[21:34] <Furry> hrm
[21:34] <coz_> sasha,  ok so in the first field you pointed it to the IE favorites yes?
[21:34] <sasha> coz_: yes
[21:34] <jepo> the easiest way would be to make a small windows executable that listens to a tcp socket for instructions -> it could then start programs for you
[21:34] <coz_> sasha, in the second field you directed it to where you want the file to be put... yes?
[21:34] <jepo> just be very careful with your firewall rules
[21:34] <sasha> coz_: yes
[21:34] <coz_> sasha,  it should be real fast,, did you check where you saved it?
[21:35] <sasha> coz_: it worked, thank a lot
[21:36] <coz_> sasha,  cool
[21:36] <CasW> How can I make my program to appear in the menu when I install it?
[21:36] <ak331> anybody uses internet explorer ?
[21:36] <milamber> bug 1
[21:36] <edbian> ak331: You can't on linux
[21:37] <hutch_> Can you use ie with wine?
[21:37] <mkanyicy> ak331, try #windows (if that exists)
[21:37] <CasW> No, you can't simply use IE with wine
[21:37] <pylix> ##windows i believe
[21:37] <CasW> However, there is a project ie4linux
[21:37] <milamber> hutch_: i have had the best luck w/ ie4linux
[21:38] <ak331> such a bummer!
[21:38] <ak331> can't activate ms reader.
[21:38] <ak331> i can't seem to install ie4linux on my machine
[21:38] <pylix> ak331: /join ##windows
[21:38] <hutch_> I use chromium just asking coz someone else asked
[21:38] <CasW> How can I make my program to appear in the menu when I install it? (I'm packaging it)
[21:38] <dannyd> <CasW : preferences->Main Menu
[21:39] <Some_Person> How can I rip a DVD to a video file without reencoding it?
[21:39] <CasW> Yes, I know that, but after installation, it should be done automatically
[21:39] <witeshark> how do i fix an unrecoverable error in update manager?
[21:39] <mkanyicy> Some_Person, dvd::rip
[21:39] <kingspider> helllo everyone
[21:39] <witeshark> this is the manager output:
[21:39] <witeshark> Please report this bug against the 'update-manager' package and include the following error message:
[21:39] <witeshark> 'E:Type 'ain' is not known on line 3 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mozillateam-firefox-stable-maverick.list'
[21:40] <mkanyicy> witeshark, pastebin that file's contents
[21:40] <debd> this seems not for me . . .
[21:40] <debd> exit
[21:41] <tabula> shutup
[21:41] <Some_Person> mkanyicy: Thanks, I'll try it
[21:41] <mkanyicy> witeshark, pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mozillateam-firefox-stable-maverick.list
[21:41] <witeshark> mkanyicy, i looked in the directory, the file isn't there
[21:41] <mkanyicy> Some_Person, sudo apt-get install dvdrip
[21:41] <tabula> duh
[21:42] <mkanyicy> witeshark, where did you look?
[21:42] <linda_> Trying to play dvd and mplayer says ¨Failed to open LIRC support¨  Any ideas about how to fix this?
[21:42] <mkanyicy> witeshark, pastebin the contents of 'ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/'
[21:42] <witeshark> mkanyicy, i looked in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[21:42] <witeshark> ok
[21:43] <bob__372> linda: do you have libdvdcss2 ?
[21:44] <rbridgew> .
[21:44] <rbridgew> .
[21:44] <linda_> bob__372, Yes.
[21:44] <mkanyicy> linda_, I think LIRC == Linux Infrared Remote Control
[21:44] <mkanyicy> linda_, mplayer should still play your files, ignore the LIRC message
[21:45] <linda_> Iḿ installing vlc.  Will see what that does.
[21:45] <bob__372> linda: then you need someone with more knowledge than I
[21:45] <milamber> linda_: did you install ubuntu restricted-extras
[21:45] <erUSUL> !dvd | linda_
[21:45] <mkanyicy> linda_, it says to me too, but it plays everything
[21:45] <zuban> linda_: With VLC it will work
[21:46] <witeshark> http://pastebin.com/UUsgbaQT
[21:47] <witeshark> mkanyicy, http://pastebin.com/UUsgbaQT
[21:47] <mkanyicy> witeshark, it is there
[21:47] <witeshark> yeah i see it
[21:47] <mkanyicy> witeshark, i saw that
[21:47] <Some_Person> mkanyicy: How do I use dvd::rip without transcoding?
[21:48] <witeshark> can i delete the mozilla team entries?
[21:48] <mkanyicy> witeshark, now try 'gedit /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mozillateam-firefox-stable-maverick.list'
[21:48] <acalbaza> any way to get a list of packages installed on one ubuntu so that i can set it up on new ubuntu machine?  i got a new desktop and want to set it up to replace my old one.  just wondering the best way to do it...
[21:48] <mkanyicy> witeshark, and pastebin everything inside there
[21:48] <Logan_> !away > necromancer
[21:48] <guntbert> !clone | acalbaza
[21:49] <mkanyicy> Some_Person, oh, i misunderstood you
[21:49] <acalbaza> nice
[21:49] <necromancer> whoops!
[21:49] <Some_Person> mkanyicy: Not your fault. I accidentally said "encoding" instead of "transcoding"
[21:49] <mkanyicy> Some_Person, you want to save a dvd without transcoding? what format would that be? .vob?
[21:50] <Some_Person> mkanyicy: Any container format would be fine (vob, mpg, avi....)
[21:50] <dannyd> i use firefox, is there a way/log to enable, so that I can see all the communication that it does, in specific im looking for the dns querying it does when i type in a website?
[21:50] <mkanyicy> Some_Person, you HAVE to transcode to save to mpg or avi
[21:50] <witeshark> mkanyicy, http://pastebin.com/V8EM78tB
[21:50] <embrik> how can I copy data from a corrupt hd with tar? My sister gave me a malfunctioning hd with a lot of pictures on
[21:50] <erUSUL> dannyd: use a sniffer
[21:50] <Some_Person> mkanyicy: Not true. avi and mpg are just containers. They can hold (almost) any type of video and/or audio
[21:51] <witeshark> mkanyicy, i see the problem
[21:51] <witeshark> can i just edit that ain?
[21:51] <dannyd> erUSUL: wireshark gives me too much information, a lot of which i cant understand now...so im trying one application at a time...is ther something you recommend?
[21:52] <mkanyicy> Some_Person, we dont understand each other, but now I believe that dvd::rip can do everything you look for
[21:52] <Some_Person> mkanyicy: How do I disable transcoding then?
[21:52] <Jon--> How do I list all dependencies and their sizes for a given package using aptitude or dpkg?
[21:52] <dannyd> erUSUL: wireshark, too many packets in very short time...im just trying to understand the browser communication
[21:52] <mkanyicy> Some_Person, dvd::rip first rips the DVD to .vob format
[21:52] <Jon--> or apt I suppose.
[21:52] <embrik> I want to copy every healthy track from a hd (/dev/sdb) - there are a lot of pictures on it
[21:52] <mkanyicy> Some_Person, when that first step is done, do not continue with transcoding
[21:53] <erUSUL> embrik: it has to be with tar? ( cd /source/dir/ && tar cf - . ) | ( cd /destination/dir && tar xpf - )
[21:53] <saretta> hello
[21:53] <itilious> how can i change my gateway for ppp0 connection to show the right value instead of 0.0.0.0 in "route" results in termina?
[21:53] <mkanyicy> Some_Person, you will have vob files which should make you happy
[21:53] <Some_Person> mkanyicy: I want a single file though
[21:53] <embrik> erUSUL, I can not mount the disk, so I cant cd into anything
[21:53] <mkanyicy> Some_Person, use avidemux to join those vob files up
[21:54] <erUSUL> embrik: tar only works in files you can access ...
[21:54] <witeshark> mkanyicy, http://pastebin.com/V8EM78tB
[21:54] <erUSUL> embrik: maybe you want some data recovery tools like photorec ?
[21:54] <mkanyicy> Some_Person, why you dont want to transcode?
[21:54] <erUSUL> !undelete | embrik
[21:54] <mkanyicy> witeshark, the 'ain' lines must be deleted
[21:54] <Jon--> How do I list all dependencies and their sizes for a given package using aptitude or dpkg? (or apt)
[21:54] <witeshark> mkanyicy, i see that
[21:54] <mkanyicy> witeshark, close gedit
[21:54] <Some_Person> mkanyicy: I want to save time.
[21:54] <erUSUL> dannyd: can not wireshark filter what you want to see?
[21:55] <milamber> Jon--: apt-cache depends <packagename>
[21:55] <embrik> erUSUL, this is a SATA HD used on a mac
[21:55] <Some_Person> Transcoding can take hours
[21:55] <erUSUL> dannyd: i.e only dns queries...
[21:55] <witeshark> mkanyicy, okay done
[21:55] <mkanyicy> witeshark, open it again with 'gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mozillateam-firefox-stable-maverick.list'
[21:55] <mkanyicy> witeshark, and remove the 'ain' lines
[21:56] <Jon--> milamber, this doesn't give me sizes or tell me which packages I already have installed. I'm trying to go "package A, how big is it on my system with its dependencies I don't yet have?"
[21:56] <dannyd> erUSUL: thanks for the tip, is that all the communication that the browser does?
[21:56] <mkanyicy> witeshark, that file has repositories commented out, it is not even used. you might as well remove it in future if you are sure you will never ever need it
[21:57] <erUSUL> embrik: can you see the partitions on the drive? can you maybe use fsck.hfsplus to check the filesystem there?
[21:57] <liminal> hello
[21:57] <milamber> Jon--: if you installed it w/ apt-get it automagically installs the dependencies. what package is it?
[21:57] <erUSUL> dannyd: no; but you said you wanted to see DNS specifically?
[21:57] <mkanyicy> Some_Person, yes it can take hours but without any you will have very big files
[21:57] <necromancer> can anyone here help me with an apache2 issue?
[21:58] <liminal> hello
[21:58] <milamber> !ask | necromancer
[21:58] <mkanyicy> Some_Person, like 7GB of files instead of 700MB movie
[21:58] <Some_Person> mkanyicy: I have ample disk space
[21:58] <necromancer> alright
[21:58] <Some_Person> mkanyicy: Errm, DVDs only hold 4.5 GB
[21:58] <liminal> I updated my compat wifi drivers and now my wifi is unstable
[21:58] <liminal> this is what i see
[21:58] <liminal> http://pastebin.com/yuM2mnkU
[21:58] <mkanyicy> Some_Person, some movie dvd's take 7GB
[21:58] <Jon--> milamber, There isn't an issue with installing, I just want to know what I am getting before I get it, without relying on apt-get to stop if there's other dependencies or packages I didn't list via the command line
[21:58] <Some_Person> mkanyicy: This isn't a DVD-9
[21:58] <mkanyicy> Some_Person, the DL version of DVDs
[21:59] <Some_Person> It's also not dual layer
[21:59] <erUSUL> dannyd: maybe what you want is this? https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/httpfox/
[21:59] <Jon--> I'd like a command that goes "regardless of if there's any other dependencies, don't install, tell me how big in total this will be"
[21:59] <mkanyicy> Some_Person, is that the only dvd you will ever rip?
[21:59] <Some_Person> mkanyicy: This is the only one I want to rip at this very moment
[22:00] <mkanyicy> Some_Person, ok, good for you
[22:00] <witeshark> mkanyicy, thanks a million
[22:00] <Pici> !nickspam > Daniel0108
[22:00] <mkanyicy> witeshark, no problem
[22:00] <dannyd> erUSUL: yes i was reading about the dns queries, got a little sidetracked..having a look at the link...
[22:00] <Daniel0108> Pici: sorry, someone stole my nick :P
[22:00] <mkanyicy> Daniel0108, register it
[22:01] <necromancer> i'm having trouble getting multiple sites working with apache2. i have two sites i want to serve from the same box/same IP, psychedeli.ca and mahoganytales.com. the problem is, both domains are pointing to the site for psychedeli.ca instead of their own respective sites.
[22:01] <necromancer> psychedeli.ca is apache2's default domain because it's the vhost that's loaded first. i know for a fact that NameVirtualHost *:80 is being set before these included configs in sites-enabled/ are being loaded into apache2.conf
[22:01] <milamber> Jon--: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-debian-package-management-cheat-sheet.html
[22:01] <necromancer> (did you guys see my second message?)
[22:01] <erUSUL> necromancer: yes
[22:01] <necromancer> my client just said "activating flood protection"
[22:01] <necromancer> haha thanks :)
[22:03] <milamber> Jon--: that is an apt-get cheat sheet. you can go to packages.ubuntu.com to see what installed sizes are. but the whole point of a package management tool is to handle the dependencies for you. if you tell it to install a package it will install the required dependencies.
[22:05] <guntbert> Jon--: aptitude install usually tells me exactly that ans asks me if I want to continue
[22:06] <jk4lp> hola
[22:06] <benzaldehyde> liminal: did you put atheros drivers up on a ralink device?
[22:07] <liminal> no
[22:07] <liminal> just updated the compat drivers
[22:08] <cminion> Hi can anyone help me I am trying to get a windows IR keyboard working on ubuntu10.10. I have followed the lirc_mod_mce but that does not seem to have worked. Can any one suggest a way I can debug this?
[22:09] <benzaldehyde> liminal: but when you went through driver select why then did you choose atheros
[22:10] <liminal> huh
[22:10] <benzaldehyde> liminal: your device is ralink
[22:10] <benzaldehyde> *adapter
[22:13] <liminal> i just did this
[22:13] <liminal>  sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-compat-wireless-2.6.38-maverick-generic
[22:14] <benzaldehyde> liminal: generic. atheros is awfuly generic
[22:14] <liminal> how do you know my device is ralink?
[22:14] <benzaldehyde> liminal: you said so
[22:14] <embrik> erUSUL, fsck.hfsplus doesn say anything else than: ** /dev/sdb and trying to use photorec - it seems dev/sdb is 1500 gb, but in fact it is 80 gb. Do you think it is possible to recover anything from this hd?
[22:14] <jk4lp> lol
[22:14] <liminal> ah okay.. I have two devices.
[22:15] <zelev> hi there...any way to upgrade gnome 2.32 on 10.10? thanksj
[22:15] <liminal> one is ralink one is atheros
[22:15] <benzaldehyde> liminal: in not so many words, Ra0
[22:15] <liminal> yes.. I want my ralink adapter to appear on Ra0.. but its on wlan0
[22:15] <erUSUL> embrik: fsck works on partitions; sdb is the whole disk... « sudo fidsk -l /dev/sdb » does ot show any partitions?
[22:15] <liminal> how do i change that?
[22:16] <erUSUL> liminal: why do you want the iface name be ra0 ?
[22:16] <Debolaz> How to I configure Ubuntu Natty to always start applications maximized?
[22:16] <liminal> because i think its messing up my atheros driver
[22:16] <jk4lp> liminal: just change the name
[22:16] <liminal> how?
[22:16] <mkanyicy> !natty | Debolaz
[22:16] <liminal> im a noob
[22:17] <jk4lp> liminal: did you try google
[22:17] <Debolaz> mkanyicy: Thank you.
[22:17] <KINGOFSWORDS> hi
[22:17] <KINGOFSWORDS> how do i open jocky in gnome ubuntu 10.4
[22:18] <liminal> iftab?
[22:19] <BRo0T3u5> hello
[22:20] <xangua> !hi | BRo0T3u5
[22:20] <KINGOFSWORDS> omg fucking god
[22:20] <imthenachoman> hey guys. i need some help. i have already turned "sleep" in ubuntu off, but for somereason after some time my computer loses connection to the network (especially other systems cannot access it). are there any tools to constantly ping the gateway or something so network never loses?
[22:20] <xangua> !language | KINGOFSWORDS
[22:20] <KINGOFSWORDS> sombody say something
[22:21] <erUSUL> KINGOFSWORDS: System>Admin...>hardware drivers
[22:21] <KINGOFSWORDS> not there erusl
[22:21] <KINGOFSWORDS> jocky didnt install correctly but every timei try to install another version it says its already installed
[22:22] <erUSUL> KINGOFSWORDS: alt + f2 run « gksudo jockey-gtk ¢
[22:22] <BRo0T3u5> Is there a ubuntu general discussion forum
[22:22] <erUSUL> !forum
[22:22] <liminal> jk4lp yes ive ŧried google
[22:22] <embrik> erUSUL, there are a lot of I/O errors in dmesg when I attach the hd - neither fdisk or fsck gave any results - running photorec- - it reports wrong capasity
[22:22] <BRo0T3u5> I meant irc
[22:22] <Pici> BRo0T3u5: #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:23] <erUSUL> embrik: if you have enough space i would try to use dd_rescue or gnudd rescue to do an image of the hd and then work on that image
[22:23] <KINGOFSWORDS> erusl didnt work
[22:23] <erUSUL> KINGOFSWORDS: try that from a terminal; should say what the problem is
[22:24] <erUSUL> !undelete
[22:24] <erUSUL> embrik: this section spacially https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery#Imaging%20a%20damaged%20device,%20filesystem%20or%20drive
[22:24] <KINGOFSWORDS> where can i get help about ubuntu
[22:24] <KINGOFSWORDS> this is driveing me crazy
[22:24] <inaxio> okay, so im having a problem where i cannot fsck (in any manor), mount or umount 2 partitions (sda1 and sda6), i can provide any information that you need, just ask.  i am also on a livecd right now and i cannot boot in recovery mode or anything
[22:25] <erUSUL> embrik: the whole wiki page is worth a read if you are serious about recovering the data
[22:25] <Pici> KINGOFSWORDS: Here. erUSUL asked you to try something, have you done that?
[22:25] <KINGOFSWORDS> yeh i did the run cmd and nothing happened
[22:25] <IsmAvatar> Hey guys, I have a kind of unix/java-esque question. The "edit" command (which I think is invoked by java's Desktop.edit() function). Any particular reason why it seems to be associated with "vim" even though I don't have vim installed?
[22:25] <KINGOFSWORDS> what is the little c symbol at the end?
[22:25] <erUSUL> KINGOFSWORDS: a typo
[22:26] <KINGOFSWORDS> ok is it suppos to be a c or nothing?
[22:26] <erUSUL> KINGOFSWORDS: try in a terminal « gksudo jockey-gtk »
[22:26] <KINGOFSWORDS> ok
[22:27] <wildc4rd> evenin all
[22:27] <KINGOFSWORDS> same thing nothing appears
[22:28] <KINGOFSWORDS> i had problem installing and said it wasnt installed
[22:28] <erUSUL> IsmAvatar: proabaly uses the $EDITOR or $VISUAL envoirment variable?
[22:28] <erUSUL> KINGOFSWORDS: and you do not get an error message from the command?
[22:28] <KINGOFSWORDS> no
[22:29] <KINGOFSWORDS> system adminstration tab opens at bottom of screeen but no window
[22:29] <KINGOFSWORDS> oh hang on
[22:29] <airlynx> every time I shut down a USB device that's connected to my computer the whole system slows down considerably until I reboot, does anybody know why that would happen?
[22:29] <IsmAvatar> erUSUL: nice thought, but they're both empty. I think `edit` tries to parse to a mime type, and on .txt extension is resolves to text/plain
[22:29] <erUSUL> KINGOFSWORDS: what does « apt-cache policy jockey-gtk | grep -i inst » says ?
[22:29] <KINGOFSWORDS> No command 'same' found, did you mean:
[22:29] <KINGOFSWORDS>  Command 'lame' from package 'lame' (multiverse)
[22:29] <KINGOFSWORDS>  Command 'ksame' from package 'ksame' (main)
[22:29] <KINGOFSWORDS>  Command 'mame' from package 'sdlmame' (multiverse)
[22:29] <KINGOFSWORDS>  Command 'save' from package 'atfs' (universe)
[22:29] <KINGOFSWORDS> same: command not found
[22:29] <FloodBot3> KINGOFSWORDS: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:30] <Jon--> Anyone here set up PGP? Can I use PGP with GMail email?
[22:30] <Jon--> How do I set up PGP with Ubuntu?
[22:30] <IsmAvatar> Jon--: consider GPG
[22:30] <jrib> erUSUL: note I used to suggest that command but was bitten a few times when the user was using a language other than english :)
[22:30] <popey> Jon--: firegpg extension for firefox can do gpg with gmail
[22:31] <liminal>  /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules.
[22:31] <liminal> maybe
[22:31] <benzaldehyde> liminal: there is also a backtrack channel on freenode in #backtrack-linux
[22:31] <Jon--> popey, Not working anymore http://getfiregpg.org/s/gmailstatut
[22:31] <erUSUL> jrib: fair enough ... KINGOFSWORDS use this « LC_ALL=C apt-cache policy jockey-gtk | grep -i inst »
[22:32] <MSI``> Question: During an installation why do my screen flickers?
[22:32] <liminal> yes..
[22:32] <erUSUL> Jon--: you can easily if you use a mail client with gmail
[22:32] <liminal> im using ubuntu
[22:32] <MarcelC> Hello! :)
[22:32] <Jon--> erUSUL, Will that allow me to sign email with PGP or GPG?
[22:32] <Jon--> I have Thunderbird set up on my GMail
[22:33] <erUSUL> Jon--: sure most linux mail clients suport gpg
[22:33] <liminal>  /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules.  seems to be full of invaild characters gedit can't open it
[22:33] <Jon--> I meant there isn't an issue with the domain? PGP/GPG pretty much work on any IMAP/POP3 email server you have access to, even web based ones?
[22:33] <erUSUL> Jon--: claws mail; evolution; TB ( for TB i think you still neeed to install the enigmail extension separately )
[22:34] <erUSUL> Jon--: an issue with the domain? explain that
[22:34] <MarcelC> is there a metapackage or what packages do I need to install in ubuntu for compiling straight from sources C and C++? It seems that ubuntu comes by defalut with a very minimal gcc/compile stuff.
[22:34] <Pici> MarcelC: build-essential
[22:34] <zelev> hi there...any way to upgrade gnome 2.32 to gnome 3 on 10.10? thanksj
[22:34] <MarcelC> Pici thank you!
[22:34] <Jon--> erUSUL, I can send emails signed with a PGP/GPG key from Google Mail, if accessed with a mail client?
[22:35] <erUSUL> Jon--: yes why not. i do it. you generate the key pair and associate themail adresses you want with it
[22:36] <Jon--> erUSUL, Okay. Is GPG or PGP better supported or equally supported on ubuntu? I'd like to use PGP in case I need to use a windows machine to sign email once in a while, but if support is shit I'll use GPG.
[22:36] <Caidoz> I've lost the bar across each window with the close, minimise and maximise buttons on them, as well as the tabs showing what programs are open along the panel, the windows have all been pushed up the height of a panel and my workspaces have broken
[22:36] <MrYes> Hello
[22:36] <Caidoz> anyone know how I could fix that?
[22:36] <erUSUL> Jon--: gpg is all you have in unix/linux. both use the same standar so they have to be interoperable
[22:37] <ZykoticK9> Caidoz, try "metacity --replace" and see if they all return (sounds like a compiz issue)
[22:37] <benzaldehyde> MarcelC: i read something about an optimized compiler, i believe intel compiler that was supposed boost loads 20 percent
[22:37] <MrYes> im thinking about running different linux distros off a few 8gb usb memory sticks, is this possible?
[22:37] <erUSUL> Jon--: i.e mail signes/enc with pgp in windows will be verificable in a linux mail client
[22:38] <necromancer> does anyone think they could help me with this problem? http://serverfault.com/questions/257790/multiple-apache2-vhosts-are-pointing-to-the-same-website
[22:38] <Jon--> erUSUL, Okay. If I make a PGP signature of my GMail email, can I then use that key on other addresses, or is the key such that it both identifies a person and a specific email address?
[22:39] <erUSUL> Jon--: as i said you can "attach" many "identities" ( name email adresses ) to a single gpg keypair
[22:39] <Flannel> Jon--: You'd create another subkey for your second email address
[22:39] <benzaldehyde> necromancer: why not try the apache channel
[22:39] <nasser_> is there any soft, similar to atube catcher for windows, which allows downloading just the audio from youtube videos?
[22:40] <KINGOFSWORDS> look all i want to do is use compiz...i think i need to install nvidia graphics driver for 8400m gs
[22:40] <KINGOFSWORDS> how do i ?
[22:40] <edbian> nasser_: There are probably firefox addons?
[22:40] <necromancer> benzaldehyde: they said they couldn't help me because it had to do with the "debian method" of how apache2 worsk
[22:40] <necromancer> works*
[22:40] <MrYes> anyone?
[22:40] <IsmAvatar> Hey guys, I have a kind of unix/java-esque question. The "edit" command (which I think is invoked by java's Desktop.edit() function). Any particular reason why it seems to be associated with "vim" even though I don't have vim installed?
[22:40] <necromancer> they actually referred me to here or #debian
[22:40] <edbian> KINGOFSWORDS: What happens if you do this in the terminal: compiz --replace &
[22:40] <benzaldehyde> necromancer: apache changes the order of their configuration so much that a lot of the tutorials are usually wrong
[22:40] <necromancer> yeah
[22:41] <xiong> @seen ActionParsnip
[22:42] <KINGOFSWORDS> erUSUL the same as if i went to visual effects tab and clcik extra
[22:42] <MrYes> anyone got any ideas for my question?
[22:42] <KINGOFSWORDS> [1] 1920
[22:42] <KINGOFSWORDS> james@ubuntu:~$ Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[22:42] <KINGOFSWORDS> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[22:42] <KINGOFSWORDS> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[22:42] <KINGOFSWORDS> compiz (core) - Fatal: glXCreateContext failed
[22:42] <KINGOFSWORDS> compiz (core) - Error: Failed to manage screen: 0
[22:42] <FloodBot3> KINGOFSWORDS: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:42] <benzaldehyde> necromancer: could you outline the project for me
[22:43] <KINGOFSWORDS> am i here still
[22:43] <IsmAvatar> for now
[22:43] <KINGOFSWORDS> ive been muted no?
[22:43] <zelev> hi there...any way to upgrade gnome 2.32 to gnome 3 on 10.10? thanks
[22:43] <edbian> MrYes: What is your question?
[22:43] <necromancer> KINGOFSWORDS: i hear you
[22:43] <IsmAvatar> KINGOFSWORDS: no, you're only muted while you're banned
[22:43] <KINGOFSWORDS> ok
[22:44] <MrYes> edbian: im thinking about running different linux distros off a few 8gb usb memory sticks, is this possible?
[22:44] <KINGOFSWORDS> i thought i couldnt install visual effect>extras cos of my graphics driver
[22:44] <necromancer> benzaldehyde: http://serverfault.com/questions/257790/multiple-apache2-vhosts-are-pointing-to-the-same-website is the full description. basically, i can't serve 2 sites from the same IP. for some reason, both domains i own are pointed to the default vhost
[22:44] <necromancer> when they should be posted to their respective vhosts
[22:44] <erUSUL> MrYes: should be possible yes. there is bound to be some tutorials in the web
[22:44] <KINGOFSWORDS> this is driving me crazy i,m getting nowhere with this all day
[22:44] <edbian> MrYes: I think it is possible.  I don't think it's every been done.
[22:45] <imthenachoman> hey guys. i need some help. i have already turned "sleep" in ubuntu off, but for somereason after some time my computer loses connection to the network (especially other systems cannot access it). are there any tools to constantly ping the gateway or something so network never loses?
[22:45] <edbian> MrYes: If partition the usb stick and use the USB installer for each distro to install to a partition it should work.
[22:45] <benzaldehyde> necromancer: been a while since i have done apache but i did do domain and subdomain on apache2
[22:45] <erUSUL> MrYes: i am talking about variaous livecd isos from the same usb drive ( no actual installs )
[22:45] <necromancer> should be basically the same thing
[22:45] <necromancer> it's all DNS A records
[22:46] <ferrer3> hello, could someone help me? i have brightness problems on ubuntu 10.10 with sony vaio laptop. Brightness is always on maximum... Can you help me to fix it?
[22:46] <ferrer3> cant change it
[22:46] <GVal_> Hi all I am getting in trouble with my linux os....When i try to run it it doesn't load the desktop but it stop on the loading screen can someone help me ? Thanks
[22:47] <Caidoz> ZykoticK9: just got an error: metacity:ERROR:core/prefs.c:2495:meta_prefs_get_workspace_name: assertion failed: (workspace_names[i] != NULL)       Aborted
[22:47] <MrYes> erUSUL: edbian okay thank you for the information, i aiming to make a computer build where i can boot various oses using multiple drives and i wanted to see if using memory sticks were a viable option for linux distros
[22:47] <edbian> MrYes: You could also install the multiple distros on the harddrive.  I am more sure that that will work.
[22:48] <ZykoticK9> Caidoz, i'm not sure what that error means.  But "workspace_names" doesn't sound very important - i know I can't put names on work spaces anymore (used to be easy).
[22:49] <MrYes> edbian: yes i could do that but i aiming to have it in a cage that is connected via usb and i can switch in and out the drives i want to use
[22:49] <GVal_> Hi all I am getting in trouble with my linux os....When i try to run it it doesn't load the desktop but it stop on the loading screen can someone help me ? Thanks
[22:49] <edbian> MrYes: ok. (neat idea :) )  Go for the USB drives.  It might get sort of difficult though.  It's something that is not commonly done and the installers will not be expecting it
[22:50] <imthenachoman> or does anyone know of any keep alive programs for Ubuntu?
[22:50] <GVal_> Guys may someone of you help me ?
[22:50] <samuy> hi all
[22:51] <samuy> i have a problem with  a game called penumbra
[22:51] <samuy> the screen turns black
[22:51] <MrYes> edbian: yes i thought of it recently i was thinking having ubuntu and xbmc on seperate usbs and linux mint on another, the data will be all stored on a 500gb hard drive but the apps and os files on the usb stick
[22:52] <samuy> and only sound works
[22:52] <edbian> MrYes: I think it will work :)
[22:52] <IsmAvatar> Anyone know why update-mailcap is generating multiple entries for text/plain, including one specifying edit=vim even though I don't have vim installed?
[22:53] <Caidoz> ZykoticK9: any idea what I could do about the rest of the issues? At the minute I can't move windows around, can't close anything, can't get to the panel at the top because the terminal's sat on top of everything. I'm basically reduced to having one program open at a time (if I wish to see the whole thing) because I can't move things around, whatever order I open them in is the order they are on my screen (I currently have a terminal sat covering the
[22:53] <Caidoz> top part of this window)
[22:53] <MrYes> edbian: okay :D im just wondering if there would be any corruption using the memory stick
[22:54] <ZykoticK9> Caidoz, sorry man, I don't have any suggestions beside my origional "metacity --replace" or try "compiz --replace".  Best of luck.
[22:54] <edbian> MrYes: I think you'll be fine.  The hardest part will be getting them all to install side by side on the same jump drive.  The second hardest part will be grub.  If you can get those two things working everything else will work fine I think.
[22:54] <samuy> black screen problem with penumbra game, any solution?=
[22:55] <MrYes> edbian: im going to be using separate usb sticks for each distro :) no multiple distros on the same stick
[22:56] <edbian> MrYes: Then it will all work fine :)
[22:56] <edbian> MrYes: The only thing I noticed is that Red Hat based and Debian based distros don't share a /home well
[22:57] <DexterF> hi
[22:57] <MrYes> ah right
[22:57] <DexterF> 10.10: can't get onboard digital sound working. hooked the machien to a TV, wired board's electrical SPDIF to the TV, all mute
[22:57] <DexterF> pointers?
[22:57] <inaxio> okay, so im having a problem where i cannot fsck (in any manor), mount or umount 2 partitions (sda1 and sda6), i can provide any information that you need, just ask.  i am also on a livecd right now and i cannot boot in recovery mode or anything
[22:59] <MrYes> edbian: thanks for the info i think itll go well now, i have a usb port build in to my wall and its all hooked up to my tv so its gonna be awesome if it works
[22:59] <edbian> MrYes: Glad I could help :)  Sounds awesome!
[22:59] <MrYes> edbian: ill let you know how it goes :) bye
[23:03] <benzaldehyde> necromancer: did you do a2ensite 001-psycho and a2ensite 002-mahogany
[23:03] <necromancer> yeah
[23:03] <necromancer> it's all good though #httpd helped me out
[23:04] <benzaldehyde> necromancer: both files have the same permisions?
[23:04] <necromancer> yes
[23:04] <necromancer> but it works now
[23:04] <benzaldehyde> necromancer: what was the problem, if you don't mind
[23:05] <necromancer> are you lagged or something? :)
[23:05] <liminal> me?
[23:05] <benzaldehyde> necromancer: no, i was reading
[23:05] <necromancer> oh lol
[23:05] <GVal_> Guys may someone of you help me ?
[23:06] <IsmAvatar> Does Ubuntu even use mailcap?
[23:06] <GVal_> MyIssue: I am getting in trouble with my linux os....When i try to run it doesn't load the desktop but it stop on the loading screen can someone help me ? Thanks
[23:07] <DexterF> is there  adecent mixer app for pulse?
[23:08] <benzaldehyde> GVal_: i see a lot of nvidia card feezes, do you have one of those
[23:08] <Bite> Hi guys.
[23:08] <benzaldehyde> *freezes
[23:08] <GVal_> no i don't thinks so man
[23:08] <Bite> I'm having an issue with connecting to the network on my gnome desktop.
[23:08] <GVal_> cause that happened after i recovered my partition table
[23:08] <GVal_> which was accidentaly deleted by mistake
[23:08] <Bite> Everytime i click "Wired Connection", and leave, then i come back and it's still disabled.
[23:08] <benzaldehyde> Bite: which network, wireless network?
[23:09] <Bite> ben: wired.
[23:09] <dreamer000> Gval_: try to disable splash screen on bootup
[23:09] <Bite> I'm in the screen under ubuntu>admin>network.
[23:09] <GVal_> dreamer000: uhm how can i do that ?
[23:10] <benzaldehyde> Bite: does it respond to command
[23:10] <yico> hey guys
[23:10] <Bite> ben: Command? in what sense?
[23:10] <dreamer000> on grub screen type "e" to edit selected boot entry, its something like "--nosplash"
[23:10] <yico> i can't get emacs install
[23:10] <benzaldehyde> Bite: sudo ifconfig eht0 up, sudo dhclient eth0
[23:11] <yico> any body can help me
[23:11] <benzaldehyde> Bite: and are all the lights solid
[23:11] <Bite> Ben: It works now.
[23:12] <Bite> are they temp fixes or permanent?
[23:12] <GVal_> dreamer000: i have installed grub on after i choose linux it doesn't loading but it freeze
[23:12] <SPF> how can I burn an ubuntu image while using the live cd?
[23:12] <Rim3nX1> hey ubuntu users... I'm experiencing a bug in my system I think
[23:12] <dreamer000> Gval_: grub is the bootloader hopefully before it freezes
[23:13] <Logan_> !details | Rim3nX1
[23:13] <Rim3nX1> my ubuntu 10.10 starts freezing too often !!!!!
[23:13] <junior_> boa noite
[23:13] <GVal_> dreamer000: yes i know but i would give more info about my situation
[23:13] <Bite> benzaldehyde: temp or perm fixes?
[23:13] <Rim3nX1> before, it freezes once a day... a moment before (I've restarted the system) it was freezing for every app trying something to do
[23:13] <GVal_> dreamer000: so can you tell me how to disable the splash screen ? And why should i do that ?
[23:14] <Logan_> !br | junior_
[23:14] <DexterF> pavucontrol even shows vu meter deflection
[23:14] <DexterF> why is there no sound?
[23:14] <dreamer000> Gval_: so you see exactly where it hangs and the last message before. That may help to localize the exact problem
[23:14] <Bite> Best partition manager for ubuntu?
[23:14] <prower> hello :> i'm not sure what happened, but lately i've been getting a lot of gtk apps crashing in 10.10 with the following error message if ran through the console: Gtk:ERROR:/build/buildd/gtk+2.0-2.22.0/gtk/gtkrecentmanager.c:1942:get_icon_fallback: assertion failed: (retval != NULL)
[23:14] <Rim3nX1> I see on forum, lots of people are having similar problem, mostly with ubuntu freezing... have anyone find out what is the problem
[23:15] <benzaldehyde> Bite: well if you need to you could add the auto eth0, iface eth0 inet dhcp to your /etc/network/interfaces and possibly a pre-up /sbin/ifconfig eth0 up, post-up /sbin/dhclient eth0
[23:15] <benzaldehyde> Bite: you could also add the commands to startup applications
[23:15] <GVal_> dreamer000: how can i disable it ?
[23:16] <GVal_> dreamer000: i can see exactly what happen you mean
[23:16] <dreamer000> Gval_: i told you by pressing "e" while machine is booting up right after bios screen in the grub boot menu
[23:16] <doodoobrown> does ubuntu have dos prompt?
[23:16] <benzaldehyde> Bite: but i suspect it could have been the ISP dropping the connection, a reboot would give a definitive answer
[23:17] <DexterF> doodoobrown: ubuntu has a command shell. try "gnome-terminal"
[23:17] <GVal_> dreamer000: i am sorry but i am using a netbook right now ! in this way i can read exactly the problem on the terminal ?
[23:18] <Bite> benzaldehyde: i've been having issues period.
[23:18] <Bite> benzaldehyde: so this will prolly fix it.
[23:18] <DexterF> doodoobrown: then learn the ways of linux. linux shell <> DOS
[23:18] <Rim3nX1> can anyone help me whit what I've asked ???
[23:18] <Hanse> where can i see a list of irc servers?
[23:18] <dreamer000> Gval_: there is proably no "kernel"
[23:19] <Logan_> Hanse: http://irc.netsplit.de/servers/
[23:19] <GVal_> dreamer000: ok i will try to locate it
[23:19] <Hanse> thanks Logan
[23:19] <dreamer000> Gval_: there is proably no kernel.log-entries without disabling "quite on bootup"
[23:19] <Logan_> Hanse: you're welcome
[23:19] <DexterF> doodoobrown: http://ss64.com/bash/
[23:19] <yico> how to get install emacs in ubuntu ~
[23:19] <dreamer000> Gval_: "quite" on bootup
[23:20] <GVal_> dreamer000: so what should i do ? if something like that happen ?
[23:20] <Hanse> Logan Iuse Ubuntu now for some days and I want to build up an backup server with this now for my NAS server
[23:20] <xangua> yico: sufo apt-get instll emacs
[23:20] <Rim3nX1> hey people. My ubuntu just freezed again
[23:20] <Rim3nX1> help me please !!!!!
[23:21] <dreamer000> Gval_: you have to see first where machine hangs and what's exactly the problem..
[23:21] <doodoobrown> i'm not going to lie. i've been masturbating for like 3 hours and my penis is really sore.
[23:21] <doodoobrown> i'm sorry
[23:21] <GVal_> dreamer000: ok i will be back in a minute thanks for helping man
[23:22] <rww> ...
[23:22] <benzaldehyde> Rim3nX1: if you feel that you have a bug you might try launchpad https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick
[23:24] <cosmo> anyone know of a guide to creating a seperate /home partition and then moving my home partition over to it so that if I have to reinstall all of that is saved?
[23:25] <message144> Hi, if I want to install applications from source which are not in apt repos, should I install them into /usr/local as prefix ?
[23:25] <benzaldehyde> cosmo: sounds like a raid
[23:25] <ZykoticK9> message144, /opt might be better actually
[23:25] <message144> ZykoticK9, ok.. what is /usr/local generally used for?
[23:26] <benzaldehyde> cosmo: dropbox is an online backup that works very much the same way and i believe you can use up to 2 GB
[23:26] <beilabs> Hey guys, I have a rather weird problem.  I have 3 machines. 1 Mac + 2 ubuntu machines. The ubuntu machine will not recognise certain addresses.  Images won't download or display in the browser from certain domains.  The mac sees everything.  They are on the same network, using googles dns.  Suggestions?
[23:26] <GVal> dreamer000: ok i got it man
[23:26] <ZykoticK9> message144, you could use /usr/local if you wished.
[23:27] <deepu> for what do use /media/storage
[23:27] <edbian> message144: /usr is used for application files (like images and such).  /usr/local is stuff that was put there manually (not by the package manager)
[23:27] <edbian> deepu: Mounting filesystems like external hdds and jump drives
[23:27] <deepu> i generally store my whole data at my home folder but i want to store them at some drive
[23:27] <message144> edbian, so if I am installing stuff from source, not in repos, /usr/local is a good place for it?
[23:28] <edbian> message144: /usr/local/bin/  :)
[23:28] <message144> edbian, ok thanks
[23:28] <edbian> message144: or /home/you/bin/
[23:28] <edbian> message144: no problem
[23:28] <deepu> edbin how to configure that  i want to generally work in /media/storage will this store in harddrive my laptop
[23:29] <edbian> deepu: By making an entry in /etc/fstab (you should use a different folder, like /mnt/media/ because gnome uses /media for things).
[23:30] <edbian> deepu: This should be helpful: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab
[23:31] <deepu> generally there will be something like /media/storage even if i dint mount my harddisk
[23:31] <deepu> will it use my harddisk space
[23:32] <GVal> dreamer000: this is my problem
[23:32] <edbian> deepu: Mounting a filesystem does not copy its' content anywhere
[23:32] <GVal> dreamer000: http://paste.ubuntu.com/591903/
[23:33] <seba_> Hi
[23:33] <deepu> edbin i am confused abit the data in /media/storage is stored at ??
[23:33] <seba_> I have a small problem
[23:33] <Polah> I just hid the menu bar in Xchat and closed the message saying how to get it back by mistake. How do I get it back?
[23:33] <Polah> !ask | seba_
[23:33] <seba_> well I make a group
[23:33] <seba_> and I use a gpasswd
[23:34] <edbian> deepu: There is nothing stored in /media/storage.  If you mount something there the data is stored on whatever device you mounted.
[23:34] <seba_> and when I use newgrp I get Invalid password
[23:37] <seba_> I use %groupadd grupa and %gpasswd when I can use newgrp or sg I get Invalid password
[23:37] <GVal> dreamer000: http://paste.ubuntu.com/591903/ can u help me ?
[23:38] <benzaldehyde> GVal: looks like a boot config file
[23:38] <GVal> uhm
[23:39] <GVal> benzaldehydeis the log apper by pressing e in grub boot menu
[23:39] <GVal> benzaldehyde: "e" like key
[23:40] <benzaldehyde> GVal: are you not able to boot
[23:41] <GVal> benzaldehyde: exactly i can't run my linux os
[23:41] <GOMI> were can you see when cpu hits 100% , is it documented somewere ??
[23:41] <GOMI> like a log or something
[23:42] <benzaldehyde> GVal: were there upgrades or edits before that happened, do you suspect the hardwarde is faulty
[23:42] <cminion> Hi, I am getting "FATAL: Error inserting <module name> : Invalid argument"  can anyone explain to me what this means
[23:42] <GVal> benzaldehyde: uhm i give you the truth that happened after restored a partition table deleted accidentally with teskdisk
[23:42] <Manoj> Hi, does anyone knows how to remove an old kernel?
[23:43] <benzaldehyde> GOMI: the ps aux command is all i know
[23:44] <GOMI> benzaldeyde : but thats at the moment , i need the past ...
[23:45] <treppex> im interested in installing ubuntu on my macbook pro. but i'm not sure which version would be best. my mbp is listed as model 6,1. but the official ubuntu help page(https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro) doesnt list this exact model. which would be best?
[23:45] <Manoj> Hi, does anyone knows how to remove an old kernel?
[23:46] <fernando> mmm
[23:47] <streifi> Manoj: by removing linux-image-* packages.
[23:47] <Furry> is it a bad idea to change the size of my windows partition using Gparted?
[23:48] <JanC> Furry: GParted uses ntfsresize which is quite good at that
[23:48] <JanC> Furry: but always make sure you have a backup of course
[23:48] <Furry> JanC, I don't know how
[23:48] <Furry> er
[23:48] <Manoj> streifi, Thanks man, It didnt come in my mind..
[23:48] <Furry> wait, premature enter key
[23:49] <Furry> JanC, I don't know how I'll back up 250+ gigs of memory
[23:49] <benzaldehyde> treppex: there is a hardware compatability database hwdb.ubuntu.com
[23:50] <Furry> janc, is there a large chance I'll *need* a backup?
[23:50] <benzaldehyde> Furry: i have resized ntfs with gparted, can not see why not
[23:51] <JanC> I have never needed one, but I have got support questions from people who did need a backup  ;)
[23:51] <Furry> well
[23:51] <Furry> I'll try that I guess
[23:52] <JanC> Furry: the main risk is probably things like a power loss or a system crash
[23:52] <Furry> I'm trying to move my unallocated space to a position where ubuntu can access it
[23:52] <Furry> I need to resize windows for it
[23:52] <JanC> or even a program crash maybe, you never know
[23:54] <benzaldehyde> Manoj: did you try apt-get upgrade
[23:55] <GVal> benzaldehyde: uhm i give you the truth that happened after restored a partition table deleted accidentally with teskdisk
[23:57] <benzaldehyde> GVal: you are in need of more help, try ##linux
[23:59] <cosmo> I want to make sure I am understanding this correctly, if I want to partition a hard drive so that I can dual boot windows and linux as well as have a seperate partition for my home folder (to make reinstalls of linux easy) it should be partitioned as such --<Primary partition (for windows)>-- --<Extended partition (for linux install)>-- --<Primary partition (for /home folder>-- Is this correct or am I missing anything?