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Daekdroomwhy.. why isn't gnome-terminal using appmenu?00:22
JanCDaekdroom: maybe things get confused because of the show/hide menu option?  (just guessing)00:42
DaekdroomJanC, not sure. It started affecting pidgin too, but after several unity restarts, it is working alright again.00:43
smspillaz|zah, sweet, found a good way to reproduce the damage bug01:12
smspillaz|zDBO: ^ if you want mor einfo01:13
smspillaz|zDBO: try changing the close duration to something like 300ish01:13
OmegaHas anyone else gotten blackscreens at the lockscreen?01:14
Omegakilling compiz and restarting unity seems to fix it01:14
smspillaz|zthen right click a decoration, then click drag the window a little bit01:14
smspillaz|zOmega: fglrx ?01:15
OmegaIntegrated intel01:15
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smspillaz|zbriliant01:18
DaekdroomWhat's the command to restart unity from tty again?01:47
davidcalleunity or unity --replace01:48
DaekdroomThat is within X01:48
DaekdroomI have to use DISPLAY=:0 from tty right?01:48
davidcalleworks well from tty, unity is smatr enough to use DISPLAY=O01:48
davidcallesmart*01:48
davidcalle:0*01:49
DaekdroomI get compiz (core) - Fatal: Couldn't open display :001:49
DaekdroomSo I thought I was doing something wrong01:49
davidcalleAnd what does "Unity" tells you?01:50
davidcalletell*01:50
Daekdroomwhat do you mean?01:50
davidcalleWell, at this point, I would use a sudo killall Xorg, but that's not the most subtle way.01:51
Omegadavidcalle: killall -9 compiz && DISPLAY=:0 unity --replace01:51
DaekdroomIndeed. The whole point is recovering my system without closing my programs, but I rather use sudo service gdm stop01:51
Omegait's the excalibur01:51
Omegaoop01:51
Omegas01:52
DaekdroomWhat does the -9 no?01:52
OmegaDaekdroom: ^01:52
Daekdroom*do01:52
davidcalleOmega, you are right.01:52
davidcalleit forces compiz to close.01:52
OmegaDaekdroom: it's the signel that it sends01:52
Omegasignal*01:52
DaekdroomOk. I'll try it the next time it freezes.01:53
davidcalleOh, right, when it freezes killall -9 compiz && unity is the way to go.01:54
davidcalle"unity --replace" is not necessary, "unity" does the job01:54
OmegaOh, yeah, cause when compiz dies so does unity.01:54
DaekdroomOn the QT & Unity novel, it seems QT apps - still - can't recover the menus when panel-service restarts.01:56
DaekdroomThey show up and all, but when you try using the menus you realize they're empty.01:56
davidcalleOmega, yes, but even if compiz is not dead, "unity" restarts the whole thing. "unity --restart" is just an alias of "unity".01:57
davidcalleOmega, AFAIK.01:59
OmegaHmm, that wasn't always so.02:03
LLStarksjcastro, i just watched saw your multitasking vid. have you encountered this bug? http://i.imgur.com/wYMKM.png04:20
DBOLLStarks, that bug is fixed now04:25
DBOLLStarks, I am deeply sorry04:25
DBOsee the thing is04:25
DBOwell04:25
DBOsomeone patched one of my libs04:25
DBOand now I must kill them for doing it wrong04:25
DBOMonday04:25
DBOMonday your problems go away04:26
DBOfirst time a Unity dev will have to murder a contributor, yes04:26
DBObut it must be done04:26
DBOfor the good of the whole04:26
hyperairDBO: i wish you luck04:28
DBOhyperair, thank you good sir04:29
LLStarkscan i have the bug number for reference?05:04
LLStarksthanks dbo05:04
DBOsure05:04
DBOhold on05:04
DBOLLStarks, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bamf/+bug/75213705:05
ubot5Ubuntu bug 752137 in bamf (Ubuntu) "bamfdaemon crashed with SIGABRT in dbus_g_connection_register_g_object()" [Critical,Triaged]05:05
DBOthat bug causes bamf to crash05:05
DBOwhich causes unity to re-register evertyhing05:05
LLStarksyup. that's the one. i was wondering what all the bamf crashes were about.05:06
LLStarksdoes this also tie into loss of window border?05:06
DBOno05:07
DBOthats a crash of the decorator05:07
LLStarksokay.05:09
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hichamhi I am trying to build unity14:38
hichamnux build fails14:41
hichamfinally nux builds15:38
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LLStarksjcastro, you've unintentionally made a strong case for default inclusion of the askubuntu lens.20:08
LLStarksit's the only way to make unity idiot-proof20:08
jcastrohah20:19
LLStarksi'm serious. ask a stupid question, get a smart answer.20:24
jcastroyeah it's pretty awesome20:26
jcastrowho needs built in static help20:27
jcastro(except offline)20:27
LLStarkspeople hate "help" and manuals20:46
LLStarksaskubuntu is more softcore20:46
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doctormoWhat's the mutter/clutter libs that unity now uses?22:53
jcastrounity doesn't use any of that anymore22:57
doctormojcastro: It draws directly to compiz? I thought it was still using something in the middle.23:15
thumperdoctormo: it uses nux23:17
doctormoNux is an open-source Java toolkit making efficient and powerful XML processing easy? I presume not.23:17
thumperdoctormo: https://launchpad.net/nux23:18
thumperdoctormo: a C++ library for opengl ++23:18
doctormothumper: Unlikely to be python bindings then :-(23:18
thumperdoctormo: no...23:19
thumperdoctormo: what are you after?23:19
thumperdoctormo: I'm pretty sure that some form of python bindings for unity23:19
* thumper sighs23:19
doctormothumper: Something that will do semi-transparent blocks I can draw on and accept events to. Like Gtk but cool.23:19
thumpervery laggy connection to my irc proxy23:19
thumperdoctormo: yeah... not so much23:20
doctormoI looked at clutter, but it's horribly broken.23:20
doctormoMaybe I'll use Qt, although that'll be ironic.23:20
thumperheh23:21
doctormothumper: I'm writing a replacement for gdm-simple-greeter, I have all the backend done, just need a gui.23:21
doctormoSo far nothing is able to do what I want in my designs.23:21
doctormoI might have to stick to gtk for it.23:22
thumperthat is frustrating23:22
thumperI know the feeling23:22

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