[00:22] <Daekdroom> why.. why isn't gnome-terminal using appmenu?
[00:42] <JanC> Daekdroom: maybe things get confused because of the show/hide menu option?  (just guessing)
[00:43] <Daekdroom> JanC, not sure. It started affecting pidgin too, but after several unity restarts, it is working alright again.
[01:12] <smspillaz|z> ah, sweet, found a good way to reproduce the damage bug
[01:13] <smspillaz|z> DBO: ^ if you want mor einfo
[01:13] <smspillaz|z> DBO: try changing the close duration to something like 300ish
[01:14] <Omega> Has anyone else gotten blackscreens at the lockscreen?
[01:14] <Omega> killing compiz and restarting unity seems to fix it
[01:14] <smspillaz|z> then right click a decoration, then click drag the window a little bit
[01:15] <smspillaz|z> Omega: fglrx ?
[01:15] <Omega> Integrated intel
[01:18] <smspillaz|z> briliant
[01:47] <Daekdroom> What's the command to restart unity from tty again?
[01:48] <davidcalle> unity or unity --replace
[01:48] <Daekdroom> That is within X
[01:48] <Daekdroom> I have to use DISPLAY=:0 from tty right?
[01:48] <davidcalle> works well from tty, unity is smatr enough to use DISPLAY=O
[01:48] <davidcalle> smart*
[01:49] <davidcalle> :0*
[01:49] <Daekdroom> I get compiz (core) - Fatal: Couldn't open display :0
[01:49] <Daekdroom> So I thought I was doing something wrong
[01:50] <davidcalle> And what does "Unity" tells you?
[01:50] <davidcalle> tell*
[01:50] <Daekdroom> what do you mean?
[01:51] <davidcalle> Well, at this point, I would use a sudo killall Xorg, but that's not the most subtle way.
[01:51] <Omega> davidcalle: killall -9 compiz && DISPLAY=:0 unity --replace
[01:51] <Daekdroom> Indeed. The whole point is recovering my system without closing my programs, but I rather use sudo service gdm stop
[01:51] <Omega> it's the excalibur
[01:51] <Omega> oop
[01:52] <Omega> s
[01:52] <Daekdroom> What does the -9 no?
[01:52] <Omega> Daekdroom: ^
[01:52] <Daekdroom> *do
[01:52] <davidcalle> Omega, you are right.
[01:52] <davidcalle> it forces compiz to close.
[01:52] <Omega> Daekdroom: it's the signel that it sends
[01:52] <Omega> signal*
[01:53] <Daekdroom> Ok. I'll try it the next time it freezes.
[01:54] <davidcalle> Oh, right, when it freezes killall -9 compiz && unity is the way to go.
[01:54] <davidcalle> "unity --replace" is not necessary, "unity" does the job
[01:54] <Omega> Oh, yeah, cause when compiz dies so does unity.
[01:56] <Daekdroom> On the QT & Unity novel, it seems QT apps - still - can't recover the menus when panel-service restarts.
[01:56] <Daekdroom> They show up and all, but when you try using the menus you realize they're empty.
[01:57] <davidcalle> Omega, yes, but even if compiz is not dead, "unity" restarts the whole thing. "unity --restart" is just an alias of "unity".
[01:59] <davidcalle> Omega, AFAIK.
[02:03] <Omega> Hmm, that wasn't always so.
[04:20] <LLStarks> jcastro, i just watched saw your multitasking vid. have you encountered this bug? http://i.imgur.com/wYMKM.png
[04:25] <DBO> LLStarks, that bug is fixed now
[04:25] <DBO> LLStarks, I am deeply sorry
[04:25] <DBO> see the thing is
[04:25] <DBO> well
[04:25] <DBO> someone patched one of my libs
[04:25] <DBO> and now I must kill them for doing it wrong
[04:25] <DBO> Monday
[04:26] <DBO> Monday your problems go away
[04:26] <DBO> first time a Unity dev will have to murder a contributor, yes
[04:26] <DBO> but it must be done
[04:26] <DBO> for the good of the whole
[04:28] <hyperair> DBO: i wish you luck
[04:29] <DBO> hyperair, thank you good sir
[05:04] <LLStarks> can i have the bug number for reference?
[05:04] <LLStarks> thanks dbo
[05:04] <DBO> sure
[05:04] <DBO> hold on
[05:05] <DBO> LLStarks, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bamf/+bug/752137
[05:05] <DBO> that bug causes bamf to crash
[05:05] <DBO> which causes unity to re-register evertyhing
[05:06] <LLStarks> yup. that's the one. i was wondering what all the bamf crashes were about.
[05:06] <LLStarks> does this also tie into loss of window border?
[05:07] <DBO> no
[05:07] <DBO> thats a crash of the decorator
[05:09] <LLStarks> okay.
[14:38] <hicham> hi I am trying to build unity
[14:41] <hicham> nux build fails
[15:38] <hicham> finally nux builds
[20:08] <LLStarks> jcastro, you've unintentionally made a strong case for default inclusion of the askubuntu lens.
[20:08] <LLStarks> it's the only way to make unity idiot-proof
[20:19] <jcastro> hah
[20:24] <LLStarks> i'm serious. ask a stupid question, get a smart answer.
[20:26] <jcastro> yeah it's pretty awesome
[20:27] <jcastro> who needs built in static help
[20:27] <jcastro> (except offline)
[20:46] <LLStarks> people hate "help" and manuals
[20:46] <LLStarks> askubuntu is more softcore
[22:53] <doctormo> What's the mutter/clutter libs that unity now uses?
[22:57] <jcastro> unity doesn't use any of that anymore
[23:15] <doctormo> jcastro: It draws directly to compiz? I thought it was still using something in the middle.
[23:17] <thumper> doctormo: it uses nux
[23:17] <doctormo> Nux is an open-source Java toolkit making efficient and powerful XML processing easy? I presume not.
[23:18] <thumper> doctormo: https://launchpad.net/nux
[23:18] <thumper> doctormo: a C++ library for opengl ++
[23:18] <doctormo> thumper: Unlikely to be python bindings then :-(
[23:19] <thumper> doctormo: no...
[23:19] <thumper> doctormo: what are you after?
[23:19] <thumper> doctormo: I'm pretty sure that some form of python bindings for unity
[23:19]  * thumper sighs
[23:19] <doctormo> thumper: Something that will do semi-transparent blocks I can draw on and accept events to. Like Gtk but cool.
[23:19] <thumper> very laggy connection to my irc proxy
[23:20] <thumper> doctormo: yeah... not so much
[23:20] <doctormo> I looked at clutter, but it's horribly broken.
[23:20] <doctormo> Maybe I'll use Qt, although that'll be ironic.
[23:21] <thumper> heh
[23:21] <doctormo> thumper: I'm writing a replacement for gdm-simple-greeter, I have all the backend done, just need a gui.
[23:21] <doctormo> So far nothing is able to do what I want in my designs.
[23:22] <doctormo> I might have to stick to gtk for it.
[23:22] <thumper> that is frustrating
[23:22] <thumper> I know the feeling