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apacheloggerwell....00:03
apacheloggerdepending on once POV your day for celebration might have been ~9 months earlier00:03
apacheloggervalorie: congrats eitherway :*00:03
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c2tarunI upgraded to kde 4.6.2. its working fine but when I am shutting down, its transferring me to terminal, the same terminal which we get on pressing ctrl + alt +F2. why so?02:11
ScottKc2tarun: Fix is on the way.02:12
c2tarunScottK: grt :)02:12
ScottKc2tarun: https://launchpad.net/bugs/75557002:12
ubottuUbuntu bug 755570 in Kubuntu PPA "Shutdown Function is not working" [Undecided,New]02:12
c2tarunScottK: if anyone wants to fix this bug, then which kde application is responsible for this?02:12
ScottKkdm.  02:13
ScottKIt's fixed in Natty already though.02:13
ScottKSomeone just needs to add the patch to the package in the Maverick PPA.02:13
ScottKhttp://launchpadlibrarian.net/68834780/kdebase-workspace_4%3A4.6.2a-0ubuntu3_4%3A4.6.2a-0ubuntu4.diff.gz02:14
c2tarunScottK: is anyone onto it? I mean is anyone doing it for maverick?02:14
ScottKDunno02:14
c2tarunis Riddell around?02:15
c2tarunScottK: I can work on this if some one can provide me an ec2 of maverick. :/ waiting for Riddell02:16
c2tarunScottK: the version in our backport is missing two patches. here is the series file from our bacport ppa http://pastebin.com/LXbjt13m and look at the series file in the patch you provided, there are two extra.03:15
ScottKOK.  Then it needs more of an update.03:16
c2tarunScottK: so what should I do? get those patches, apply them and then upload to ppa?03:16
ScottKYes03:17
c2tarunScottK: if I replace the debian folder of backport version with the debian folder of natty version than it will fix all the problems I guess, will it be correct?03:19
ScottKNo03:19
ScottKThere may be differences between Maverick and Natty for good reasons.03:20
c2tarunScottK: then this means the extra patches in natty may be natty specific, so I should just apply the patch to fix the shutdown problem.03:23
ScottKYou should understand the other patches and see.03:23
* ScottK needs to go.03:24
ScottKGood luck.03:24
rbelemRiddell, i think that the new plasma-mobile is not viable for 11.04 :'(07:17
rbelemRiddell, lots of backport is needed07:18
rbelems/is/are07:18
rbelemshould i go ahead?07:19
* rbelem goes to bed07:30
rbelem2am07:30
bambeemorning09:24
bambeec2tarun: thanks to have backported the halt_cmd patch to maverick :)09:24
c2tarunbambee: morning :)09:46
bambee:)09:46
bambeehey09:46
c2tarunhi09:47
c2tarunbambee: that package took approx 5 hrs to build :P phewww....09:50
bambeeonce the package is built , please test it : 1) logout, 2) from a tty type: sudo restart kdm, 3) login, 4) try a shutdown => it should work09:51
bambee(ie kdm must be restarted after dist-upgrade)09:51
c2tarunbambee: let me install it first, then only I can test it.10:09
bambeec2tarun: that's why I said "kdm must be restarted after dist-upgrade" :\10:09
bambee;)10:10
c2tarunbambee: what is tty?10:21
bambeec2tarun: ctrl+alt+F110:21
bambeeit's the console when you type ctrl+alt+F{1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9}10:22
c2tarunbambee: got it :)10:22
bambee(in fact tty is a unix command line... whatever...)10:23
bambeec2tarun: when you type ctrl+alt+f1 it's tty1, when you type ctrl+alt+f2 it's tty2... and so on... 10:25
bambeearrff disconnected :\10:25
c2tarunbambee: it worked :) bug fixed10:29
bambeec2tarun: wait10:30
bambeecool10:30
c2tarunbambee: ok10:30
bambee:)10:30
bambeec2tarun: now the package should be backported to kubuntu-ppa/backport, and then the bug can be marked as fixed10:31
c2tarunbambee: who can do that?10:31
bambeedevs: by the way, we should ask a member to upload to kubuntu-ppa/backport ?10:32
c2tarunany kubuntu member here?10:32
bambee(we're just ninjas for now)10:32
valorieI am, but I don't know how to do that10:32
valorie:(10:32
valoriesomeone qualified will be along soon10:33
c2tarunwhy I am getting these grey patches on kubuntu ninjas page? http://imagebin.org/14744510:34
valorieff being weird?10:35
* valorie seeing cross-eyed anyway10:36
valorieniters10:36
c2tarunbambee: system building ppa packages are really fast, he package build in just 1hr :/10:40
bambeec2tarun: it all depends on what it builds, but yeah indeed it's fast :)10:47
yofelbambee: kubuntu-ninjas have upload rights to the PPAs...11:27
yofelc2tarun: so feel free to put the fixed package into backports (after making sure it works, which you did as I understand it)11:28
c2tarunyofel: rights to ppa means? for backport?11:28
yofelc2tarun: for all PPAs owned by ~kubuntu-ppa11:29
c2tarunyofel: yup, it worked, is there any way I can share it from kubuntu-ninjas/ppa? or I have to upload in kubuntu-ppa/backport?11:29
bambeeyofel: I know... but I thought it was for members only :\11:30
yofelc2tarun: no, on the ninjas package details page there is a 'Copy packages' link, you can just copy the binaries from there11:30
bambee(don't ask me why... :D)11:30
bambeexD11:30
c2tarunbambee: :P11:30
yofelc2tarun: make sure you select 'Copy existing binaries' on the copy page11:32
bambeekdeplasma-addons and kdenetwork have been uploaded to revu (including patches which have been recommended on kde-packagers)11:32
c2tarunbambee: I thought revu is only for new packages. :/11:34
bambeeit's almost a online review tool for packages... isn't it ?11:36
c2tarunyofel,bambee do you have any experience of development on android?11:36
yofelnope, I don't even have any device with android on it11:36
c2tarunhmm....11:37
bambeec2tarun: I just wrote and tested some codes... few months ago... but not really11:37
yofelgood question, I've never used revu myself (as I never packaged anything from scratch)11:37
bambee(android => java => the hell)11:37
c2tarunbambee: :) in which language u like to code?11:38
bambeec2tarun: C/C++/python :)11:38
c2tarunbambee: grt :)11:39
c2tarun!revu11:42
ubottuREVU is a web-based tool to give people who have worked on Ubuntu packages a chance to "put their packages out there" for other people to look at and comment on in a structured manner. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU11:42
c2tarunbambee: check this link ^11:42
bambee"If you packaged a new upstream version (of a package that is already in the archives), and you want to get it sponsored, do not use REVU to get it sponsored. Instead see SponsorshipProcess. " :\11:46
bambeemy bad :)11:46
yofelif you want a graphical UI to review your changes use merge requests11:47
yofelas all packages in the archive are accessible with bzr in lp:ubuntu/<release>/<source>11:48
bambeeinteresting11:49
yofelalthough for our packages merging against the packaging branches would be easier11:49
c2tarunyofel: I proposed a kubuntu meeting today, I dont think anyone is going to come :(11:54
yofelc2tarun: errr.... you did??11:55
yofelI didn't get any mail about that11:55
c2tarunyofel: yup, I also mailed a doodle to kubuntu-devel mailing list, and I also updated the meeting page11:55
c2tarun!kubuntu-meetings11:55
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about kubuntu-meetings11:55
yofelc2tarun: are you subscribed to kubuntu-devel? if not your mail probably got stuck in the moderation queue (that probably nobody checks)11:56
bambeeyofel: so something like that is the right way ? :  bzr branch lp:ubuntu/kdeplasma-addons , then commit changes in my own branch, then request a merge 11:56
bambee?11:56
yofelbambee: yes, for most packages in the archive, but we would just update the packaging in lp:~kubuntu-members/kdeplasma-addons/ubuntu11:57
c2tarunyofel: I dont thnk that I am subscribed to kubuntu-devel. how can I get that subscription?11:57
yofelas we have seperate branches for that11:57
yofelc2tarun: on the mailing list homepage11:57
yofelc2tarun: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel11:58
yofelc2tarun: ok... now: we would first have to all enter our times in the poll so we can find a time to do the meeting11:58
c2tarunyofel: do you think that I should reschedule it?11:59
yofelI see you entered a time on the meeting page, but you also never updated the link for it11:59
yofelc2tarun: yes11:59
bambeeokay so I will create branch from lp:~kubuntu-members/kdeplasma-addons/ubuntu and request a merge then11:59
c2tarunyofel: ok, I'll do that on doodle first11:59
yofelc2tarun: also, on the meeting page, please enter your details in the Candidates category too, not only in the items list12:00
c2tarunyofel: ohh...12:01
bambeeThis is not too early for me to apply for membership ? I mean, did I contribute enough ? I do not think so, imo... as I doubt I prefer ask12:04
c2tarunyofel: what date should I choose? I mean not too close and not too far.12:04
bambee(I can be wrong , in this case just blame me :D)12:05
yofelbambee: as said, we do require at least 2 months or continous contributions, usually it's 6 months... - you can always add yourself, but I haven't seen you around for *that* long TBH12:07
yofelc2tarun: no idea, I never organized a meeting12:07
c2tarunyofel: then how did you get kubuntu-membership? :/12:07
yofelc2tarun: I added myself to an already scheduled meeting?12:08
bambeeTBH ?12:08
c2tarunyofel: :P well except bambee I never saw anyone here who is not kubuntu-member :/. still I think weeked is not good12:09
yofelto be honest, sorry12:09
c2tarunbambee: to be humble :)12:09
c2tarunoops honest :)12:09
* c2tarun choosing friday.12:10
c2tarunyofel: except kubuntu-membership request is there any reason that a meeting gets scheduled?12:10
bambeepersonally I prefer wait :)12:13
yofeliirc the last meeting was originally to dicuss the creation of ~kubuntu-packagers, and if you read the meeting minutes you'll see we discussed other things too12:13
c2tarunyofel: please see the PM.12:17
* bambee is reading the meeting minute12:19
QuintasanAnyone is using Dvorak keyboard layout here?12:40
QuintasanRiddell: What do you want me to put in that UDS Specs page?12:40
c2tarunQuintasan: ping you ever worked on develping any android application?12:43
Quintasanc2tarun: nope12:43
yofelbambee: just remembered we had an introduction to UDD in devel week https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek13:26
bambeeyofel: indeed, thanks13:45
bambee"Using default stacking branch /~neon/kdeplasma-addons/trunk " => wtf ? o_O14:45
bambee(I just used bzr branch ubuntu:kdeplasma-addons then I created another branch locally...)14:46
* c2tarun natty is good :) it detected my wifi driver :)15:05
c2taruncan anyone please tell me how can I check in natty that my graphic card driver is installed or not? In additional drivers its not showing my ATI driver :/ it does in maverick15:09
jussiHrm, just came across a muon problem? or maybe another issue: http://imgur.com/WfnOJ15:15
c2tarunjussi: what about kde-control module? I thought it was older package manager for kde.15:18
yofelc2tarun: KCM are parts for systemsettings, not a package manager15:20
yofeland you probably mean kpackagekit, and adept is very old15:21
c2tarunyofel: so muon is the only package manager?15:21
yofelno, kpackagekit is our default package manager, muon shows more information15:21
c2tarunyofel: ohh..... :)15:21
yofeljtechidna: ^15:22
jtechidnajussi: It's a bug in APT15:22
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JontheEchidnabug 71659915:23
ubottuLaunchpad bug 716599 in apt (Ubuntu) "apt can't open package cache under certain circumstances" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/71659915:23
ScottKnixternal: Can haz powerpc?15:36
emgentheya16:28
emgentwhat is the best package repo for ARM architectures?16:28
ScottKStandard Ubuntu repositories.16:38
jussiJontheEchidna: thanks, nice to know you have noticed it also.17:13
JontheEchidnajussi: it seems to happen when you have a package marked for something, and a newer version becomes available when you check for updates17:13
jussiJontheEchidna: hrm, sounds a bit strange. 17:14
jussiwas a bit weird, I upgraded to natty, and now Im getting both muon and kpackagekit updaters in the systray17:14
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bambeewow... I have received 88 e-mails  in my inbox about "translations template imports" ... o_O18:14
* bambee has something going with rosetta...18:15
skfinfilter "translations template import" -> Ctrl+A -> Delete18:15
skfin-> problem officer?18:15
bambeeskfin: good idea18:16
skfin:)18:17
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Riddellbambee: launchpad translations just loves to spam no matter how much we complain18:32
bambeeRiddell: arrf18:32
Riddellthere's a bug for it somewhere18:32
bambeeone e-mail just for the package source is sufficient, imho18:36
yofeljust ignore it, as I do for all the mails about successfull recipe builds...18:39
shadeslayer_Riddell: around? i'm sort of in a fix19:12
shadeslayer_and ... OMG .. Qt compiles on clang19:13
Riddellshadeslayer_: what's up?19:17
shadeslayer_Riddell: PM :)19:18
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jussijtechidna: my troubles are not yet over :( now apt broke on me :/20:40
jussihttp://paste.ubuntu.com/592289/20:40
yofelerm, why are you killing the lock on /var/lib/dpkg/lock when var/cache/apt/archives/lock is locked?20:41
jussiwhoops20:44
jussiI didnt even read it properly, thanks for pointing that out (and I didnt know that there were 2 locks :/ )20:44
yofelthe apt cache lock makes sure you don't try to download the same deb twice, the dpkg lock makes sure you don't cripple the database20:45
jussiyofel: ahh, thank you20:46
bambeehttp://www.ubuntu-gallery.com/?cat=50 <--- lovely21:29
debfxbambee: thanks for packaging the patches, uploading them now21:53
bambeeyou're welcome :)21:53
bambeeboth are on revu21:53
bambeedebfx: patches are correctly named ?21:55
debfxbambee: yep, the names are good21:59
bambeeok :)21:59
bambeegood night22:23
debfxapachelogger: ping23:43
apacheloggerdebfx: yes23:44
debfxapachelogger: I've come up with these changes to make the desktop file translations work for non-kde apps: http://paste.kde.org/10343/23:46
debfxwhat do you think of it?23:47
apacheloggerdebfx: i'll have a look at it tomorrow23:48
* apachelogger is doing homework right now :)23:48
debfxapachelogger: tomorrow morning? :)23:53
debfxI'd like to sneak it in before beta freeze23:53
apacheloggerI'll be up before 9 CEST, so yes morning :P23:54
debfxgreat, thanks23:58

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